February 21, 2025 • 55 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Correctional offices, indicted in the murder of a black man,
the assassination of Malcolm X the sixty year anniversary. What
on earth does that have to do with today's professional
athletes and a Democratic strategist, a well known one, is
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attacking Wall.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Basically told me to shut the f up.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Obviously, I ain't gonna listen to that stephen A. Smith's
show in the house. He asked for it. Here I come.
What's up, everybody. Welcome to the latest edition of The
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stephen A. Smith Show, coming at you over the digital
airways of YouTube, and of course iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I'm gonna get right into it. You know, I got
love for y'all.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I'm always thinking about subscribers and follows, but I got
a lot of enough to get into, particularly this first item.
There's a lot of stuff to talk about today, but
this is the number one thing on my mind, and
I'm not gonna waste a second delaying you know this
onslaught that's about to come. We're gonna get started with
Democratic strategist James Carville, who felt the need to call
me out on his Politican podcast earlier this week. The
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Raging Cajun as he is affectionately known is apparently upset
with my recent political commentary where I have been critical
of the state of the Democratic Party. To refresh our memory,
here's part of what I had to say earlier that
got him all up in a tizzy.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Check it out.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
That's why I'm in the news. I'm not in the
news because I'm here.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I'm in the news because the Democratic Party is here.
Damn it. Lower than that down at the bottom.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
They suck right now, horrible because.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
They don't have a voice. Where the hell of the voice?
Everybody want to sit up there.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Talking about I mean, I need a vice, we need it,
but we don't need a voice. We don't need Well,
guess what somebody got to send a message? Kind of
how can somebody receive a message.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
If there's no messenger?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
In response to what you just saw me, see, that's
when Carville evidently lost it and he went on his
Politicon podcast and had this personal message to give.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
To me, even though it was seen by everybody. Take
a look.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Okay, you know I am a big Stephen A Smith fan.
I remember I saw him some years ago on TV.
When it comes to politics, he don't know his from
a hole in the ground. He's on that running his
damn mouth about how he may have to run as
a Democrat because there's nothing left the Democratic Party. There's
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no talent. Stephen, are you me? I mean, you say
you're friends with Wes Moore and you say you're friends
with Josh Shapiro. I'm friends with both of them. I
think they're really extraordinary talented people. I got news for you, dude.
That's six or seven other people in a Democratic Party
that are just that talented. So before you start running
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your mouth off about politics, a topic of what you
really don't know anything about, you ought to sit back
and think about it and call some people and run
it by it. So Stephen a, keep up your own sports.
I enjoy it, I like it, but don't make a
fool of yourself anymore and talking about politics.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
What I find interesting about all of this is that
a lot of what James Carvill himself has been seeing
sounds a lot like what the hell I've been seeing.
But before I get into that first order business study,
you have to be so rude, you know, dropping f
bombs and going all you know, going off like that.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I mean, I know that's your nature. I understand that
but let's just say.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Two can do that, you know, I mean, if you
really wanted to get raw, ain't nobody hiding from that?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I could be that way.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
It's just that my mama taught me to respect my elders,
and you are eighty years of age, if I remember correctly,
and I'm trying to be respectful, so I'm not gonna
come at.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
You the way that you came to me. I thought
that was completely unnecessary. That's number one.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Number two, I religiously say I'm no political officionado.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I religiously say I don't know politics like that.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I read, I watch the news. I'm a conscientious observer.
But I do have to ask you a question, mister
James Carville, albeit rhetorically, you do know that you're talking
to a voter, right.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Could that be one of the reasons why y'all lost
just a thought.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Because you sound like one of those old curmudgeons that.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Things to stay or be the way that they used
to be.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
And you're resentful, harboring an abundance of animosity because you're
not being heard. That's not Stephen A. Smith's fault, sir,
that's that damn Democratic party that I was talking.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
About you see, they shouldn't listen to me.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Do you realize, James Carville, that that means they shouldn't
have listened to you either, Which makes no sense because
we were both right. Because guess what what I was
saying is what you were saying. I saw you on
Fox News, I saw you on CNN, I saw you on.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Your podcast before the election. What the hell you think?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I got some of the stuff from when you were
talking about the Democratic Party. I'm making that up. I'm
making it up.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
When you were lamenting their strategy, I'm making it up.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
When I talked about Kamala Harris and not resonating with
the audience, I'm making it up. When I talked about
wolk culture, I'm making it up. When I talked about
they weren't focused on the right issues. I'm making that up.
You didn't say any of those things. I tell you what,
Let's see the audience. Let's show the audience rather exactly
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what you said.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I didn't say hearing. I said, let's show it to
them so they can see your faith. They know it's you,
They know it you, James Carfield. This is your talking.
Take a listen.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
We have no legislative power. We have no executive power.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
We have no judicial power.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
So when you're out of power, you're an opposition party,
and go and tell all of the people that are
are sending you and asking you for money, justify what
you did, Justify what you did wrong, and tell us
what you're going to do different because what you've done
ain't worth a shit. Get your head around that. In
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all of the Washington based Democrats farting around going to
wine and cheese parties and talking about how misogyn mistigation.
You get your ass out of Washington and go work
on a twenty twenty six campaign and do penance to
make up for your goddamn arrogance and stupidity. Well, we're
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gonna say we told you so. We told you this
identity shit was disaster. We told you to get out
in front of public safety issues.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
You didn't.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
We told you to have an open process and demonstrate
the magnificent and staggering and deep talent that existed in
the mind Democratic Party.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
You didn't.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
We told you to differentiate yourself of Biden.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
You didn't.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
I hate to be some fucking know it all, but
all of these things are part of the record.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Where Did I hear that before? I mean, did you
hear him speaking ladies and gentlemen? Did you hear him
speaking about woke culture? Did you hear him speaking about
how you needed to separate yourself from Joe Biden? Did
you hear him speaking about there was no primary? You
remember that stuff? Which y'all hear that before? What'd you
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here before?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
You thought I was finished? I got more. I got more.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Play the next clip of James Carville, please show up.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
The first thing is somebody runs for Democratic nomination in
twenty twenty eight. The first thing that I want to
hear out of their mouth is I'm taking our message everywhere.
And when I say everywhere, I mean everywhere. I mean
Joe Rogan, I mean Fox News, I mean Sunday Morning shows,
I mean everything. I'm proudb what we have to offer.
I'm gonna go out and promote it, and I'm gonna
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go out and defend it, and I'm gonna go out
and tack them, and I'm gonna do.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
That all the time.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Secondly, all of our events are going to be fun.
There's gonna be great music, there's gonna be great comedians
that are gonna tell jokes before I come up. It's
gonna be an entirely different thing.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
With dour, it's always.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Somebody's in a pissy mood. Somebody's just the people which
is not connecting. We're not connecting at all. And it's
just going to require some discipline, and it's going to
require a change of attitude.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Just a little thought, mister James Carville, are you sure
you wanting to be the dude that's pointing out how
the Democrats look so dour.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
And always in a pissy mood. You show you the
right person that should deliver that message. Have you looked
in the mirror you show yourself. You've seen the way
you've talked about yourself. You see the way you disseminate
a message.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
You don't look dour, you don't look down, you don't
look enthusiastic.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Come on now, listen, sir.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I respect you, and by the way, I appreciate your
compliments about my sports career, my career in sports broadcasting,
what have you is very kind of that part, very
very much, so, thank you, very very much. I do
appreciate that, and I feel the same way about your
political career. It's the economy, stupid, still one of the
most famous lines in political history back in nineteen ninety
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two when Clinton was running for.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Office before he won the presidency. I got it. I understand.
I know who you are. I know you've got your chops.
I get you.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
But respectfully, sir, it's a couple of things that you
need to understand. Most voters out there aren't political officionados.
But just because they're not doesn't mean that they don't
know that you know their ass from a hole in
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the wall. As you described me, I saw inflation. I
saw the economy not being what the Democrats purported it was.
I saw crime in the streets. I saw a crisis
at our borders. I saw a president that was clearly dominic,
to say the least. I saw a Democratic party debatably,
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arguably engage in undemocratic behavior when you ultimately greased the
skids to make sure he didn't experience a primary, to
ultimately send him to that debate stage June twenty seventh,
and embarrassed himself, waiting an additional three weeks for him
to get out of office so you could put Kamala
Harris in there without any resistance. I heard you lament
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that well, I lamented it too. I complained about it too.
So we have to be as knowledgeable and as informed
and as connected as James Carville to have a salient
and decent opinion about what the hell is going on
with the Democratic Party.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
That's what it takes.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
So respectfully, you're wrong, and you know you're wrong. Now,
there's a lot of people that should have listened to you,
and they made a mistake. I'm not listening to you.
I'm the exact opposite. You were one of the people
that I was listening to break down the problems with
the Democratic Party.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
But in that sound that.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I played for our audience, I noticed that there was
a level of inconsistency there. You talked about going to
see she should go and interview and sit down with everybody, the.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Joe Rogans of the world.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
The list goes on and on. Well, it's funny, sir,
mister James Carville. I'm reading an article from Newsweek in November,
and in that article before the election, you were talking
about how you didn't like her strategy or the immediate
after math of the election. I'm sorry you were lamenting
how you didn't like the fact that she was sitting
down with everybody.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Actually, I think it was before the election you.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Were talking about how you didn't like the fact that
she was gonna sit down with Fox News, that she
was gonna go on to view and all of this
sudden stuff. You were talking about how you didn't like that.
Now you sit back talking about if I'm a Democrat,
I'd be around everybody. I'd go talk to everybody. That
ain't what you said months ago. That's not what you said, sir,
so respectfully, let me state this again for everybody to listen.
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My life is pretty damn good. I have no desire
to be a politician. I wouldn't want to contaminate and
sully my life by entrenching myself in that cesspool in
the nation's capital. I'm very very clear about that. And
the pay would be significantly less. Let me add that too,
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at least for the eight years I'm in office, because
I damn sure if I win the first election, I
ain't losing a second. So understand, I have no desire
for it. What I said was, it's an absolute embarrassment
that I am the person that's being mentioned and named.
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It's a disgrace to this Democratic party. It shows you
have no bullpen, and I know that's what got you
your intenders up, and that's what robbed you up even
more so because you brought up how I have a
relationship with Wes Moore and Joshapiro.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Jos Shapiro. I met him one time of my life.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I talked to him one time of my life, and Hey,
I think he's a fabulous governor for the state of Pennsylvania,
and I think he knows his stuff and I'm honored
to have met him, and I'm looking forward to cultivating
a relationship with him. West Moore is a different animal.
I love this brother. I know him through sports because
he and I talk about the Ravens all the time.
I think he's doing a damn good job with the
state of Maryland, and if there is a Democratic nominee
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to look at, it is definitely him. I think Wes
Wore is an absolute winner. I'm not apologizing for that
to anybody. I did not mean to imply that there's
nobody in the bullpen in terms of their capability, sir.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
What I'm saying is who's resonating.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
With the national audience because you got Trump and that
cult like following that he has, who will go along
with whoever Trump says to go along with in the
event that he doesn't manipulate the Constitution and ends up
getting a third term, so you can put his vote.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
You can qualify that as lock stock, Beryl.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Who's the Democrat that can galvanize an audience on a
nationwide level.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
To pull off the level of support.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
That it's going to take to upend and usurp a
Trump alcoholie or somebody like that in the future.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Who is that person going to be?
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Do I have to be in officionado in politics to
say something like that. The Washington Post wrote an article
about me today. God a damn halo over my head,
trying to act like I'm Jesus, like I'm some savior. Ridiculous,
But i don't mind. It was a good article and
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I'm not insulted by it. I'm simply saying, to paint
me in that picture, No, I'm not that dude. But
in that article, Will Caine, my former colleague at ESPN
now a host at Fox News With the Week they
show every week there four pmmes to send the time.
I'm happy for him, I'm proud of them. In the
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same breath that he was complimentary of me. He said
I didn't know enough about the issues. He's absolutely right.
I never said I did. I don't study Capitol Hill
like I study sports.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Do y'all want me to.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Do?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
You know what kind of havoc i'd wreak if I
sat down for a few weeks and just buried.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
My brain and my face and my mind into the
nuances of politics and what transpires on Capitol Hill?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Are y'all sure? Y'all want that smoke? You sure about that?
Speaker 1 (16:41):
I mean, because it's like you're daring me too, mister
James Carvert, Like you're daring me too?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
You sure are?
Speaker 1 (16:46):
You?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Sure? Might want to think about that? Because you see
when you sit.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Back and you allow your eye to subside and you
embrace the true, authentic words that I was spewing. I
wasn't questioning Josh Shapiro. I wasn't questioning Wes Moore. I'm
not even questioning somebody like harrold Ford Jr. Who works
on the five on Fox on Fox News. I think
that the composure that he shows and what have you.
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He's a former representative. I think he could do some
good things. All of these people are more qualified than me.
All of them are more knowledgeable than me. How difficult
is it to get knowledgeable about politics?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
If I really really wanted to make some noise all the.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Tanks is a few weeks and a few phone calls
with people that I can clearly talk to because I
got him on speed dial.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
It ain't that hard.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
It's just not a lane I want to venture into
an in an official capacity. I'd much rather remain a
punder that lane. Commentator. But if you really really think,
James Carville, about what I said, You've been saying the
exact same things, which brings me to the culminating point
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of my diet tribe that dare I say.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Might make you a bit uncomfortable?
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Is what I said really the problem since most of
what I've said are things that I also heard you say.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Or is it the fact that some novice.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Who doesn't know as as from a hole in the
wall when it comes to politics is resonating in the
political stratosgy of more than you.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
The latter might be the case, it shouldn't be.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
I would advise anybody in the world to listen to
you about politics more than me. That is not where
I'm going. What I'm saying sir, is that you coming
at me the way that you did, with your frustration
and your vitriol and your disrespect, which.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Was completely unnecessary.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Although you were complimentary about the sports, sir, I'm accusing
your anger of being misplaced.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Doesn't lie with me.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Whether I'm talking about politics or I engaged in politics,
I would always want to hear what you have to say.
Problem is not with me, my man. The problem is
with those folks who are entrenched in politics on Capitol Hill,
young whipper snappers, breath smelling like Similac, wet behind the ears,
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that don't want to listen to somebody like you.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
They pushed you out like you're an old guard. Similar
to what happens in sports when you got.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
These young dudes that are heavily in the analytics that
push out the older, wiser, elder basketball minds.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
It happens in politics too.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Those young kids on Capitol Hill don't want to hear
what you have to say, evidenced by their faulty strategy
during the election cycle, which you have religiously condemned. So,
in other words, your problem isn't with me. Your problem
is with them. Take it up with them, and if
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you're gonna mention my name. Can we cut out the profanity?
Can we stop cussing? Can we stop acting like with juveniles?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
You're better than that, sir, You're better than that.
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An attorney representing Sean Dinny Combs in this sex trafficking
case announced that he is stepping down as counsel. In
a statement, Anthony Rico stated, quote, although I have provided
Sean Combs with a high level of legal representation expected
by the court, under no circumstances can I continue to
effectively serve as council.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
For Sean Combs end quote.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Rico did not give an explanation, but said it would
not affect Combs's May fifth federal trial date. Rico, who
was retained by Colmes in September, did not immediately respond
to a request for comment. Colmbs has five other attorneys
on his team.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
End quote.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Let me say this, anytime an attorney backs out, that's
not a good look. Now, there could be of a
variety of reasons as to why this happened, and we
all get that. I understand that, But anytime an attorney
backs out, particularly of a high profile case like this,
is not a good look. And I'm gonna tell y'all why.
Because if you are an attorney. The more acclaim your
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client has, the more popularity your client has, the more recognition,
the notoriety your client has, the more you benefit from
a positive outcome in favor of that client. So that client,
if Sean Diddy Combs gets off sets trafficking and racketeering
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charges and the jury finds him not guilty months from now,
and he's able to walk out the courtroom a free man,
you know how good that makes those attorneys look. Everybody
will be clamoring for the cameras, every single one of them.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
They'll be going crazy. They'll all be clamoring for the cameras.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
So I'm saying all of that to you to say,
if that's the case, let's understand what we're talking about here, Okay,
it's very very important that we do that.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
An attorney walking away, sometimes.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
It's because they don't get the lead chair, one of
the lead chairs. Sometimes it's because a client is lying.
Sometimes it's because they believe wholeheartedly that the client is
going to be guilty and they don't want to be
associated with that guilt because that's a loss on their record.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
It could be a variety.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Of things, but the fact that we are speculating about that.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
When a trial date hasn't even started yet.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Concerns me because I'm one of those people, ladies and gentlemen,
who firmly believes it's virtually impossible to find a jury
that's not contaminated by some kind of information that's been put.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Out to the public before a trial begins.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I'm not one of those that believes that May fifth
is May fifth. I mean, come on, now, that's more
than two months away. Jury ain't been selected yet. You're
trying to tell me nobody that's on a jury will
have heard.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
That a lawyer backed out of the case.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I don't know about y'all, but I find that that's
not a good thing for Seawan Diddy Combs.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
For something like that to happen, that's not a good thing.
What's goods if.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
You fire a dude, But if the dude fires you
as a client, even if you got five other lawyers
and that was the first dude you went to when
you retain the services in.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
September, that's not a good look.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I have not done anything to contribute to the guilt
or innocence of Sean Diddy Combs.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
I don't know what the hell happened.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
The only thing we've done that I thought was incredibly
incriminating was that video of him beating up his ex girlfriend,
Cassie Ventura in the hotel. That's it, because I was
on CNN. It was all over the place. That's the
only thing. Anything else. I brought legal analysts on here,
back and forth. I brought Hollywood reporters back, back and forth,
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because I want to make sure that we don't make
any assertions or something.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
As to his.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Innocence or guilt, because you gotta be responsible. But I'm
gonna tell you it's.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Not a good look for your lawyer to back out,
just saying that. For the record, coming up.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
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But Robert Brooks was beaten to death, wild handcuffed. He
wasn't just killed, he was tortured on camera.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
It was caught on video. Where are the arrest I
want names, I want faces that the governor of New
York is gonna come out and says thirteen correctional offices.
I want to know all thirteen. I want their names,
I want their face this, I want them on camera,
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every one of them, every one of them.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Welcome back to the stephen A. Smith Show right here
with the digital. It was a YouTube and of course iHeartRadio.
That was me speaking on December thirty first, upon learning
about the story that I'm about to reiterate to you
right now because in the latest on this story we
discussed on this show when it happened in December. Murder
charges have been announced in the death of Robert Brooks,
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a forty three year old inmate who was beaten by
guards at a prison in Upstate New York. Governor Cathy
Hochel announced the chargers Thursday. In a statement, Hoko said, quote,
Robert Brooks should be alive today. The brutal attack on
mister Brooks was sickening, and I immediately moved to terminate
the employment of those involved end quote. In the grand
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jury indictment, six correctional officers were charged with second degree
murder and first degree manslaughter. Two of them were also
charged with the gang assault. The sixth charged with second
degree murder on Nicholas and Zelone, David Kingsley, Anthony Anthony Farina,
Christopher Warreth, Matthew Gallaher and an unnamed person. You see
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their faces right there, take a little let's pause for
a second. Let's look at their faces right now, hey,
one of them.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
I don't like the fact that they turned sideways.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Personally, I want to see them front I want to
see the frontal view, like Angeloni. I want to see
who the rest of them are. Why is Kingsley, Farina,
Warreth and Gallaher side?
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Wait, that's what I want to know, but I digress.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Seventeen employees, including four sergeants and two nurses, were alleged
to be involved in the death, and was suspended as
a result of the incident. Four others were charged in
the grand jury indictment and connection with the case on
varying charges including manslaughter and evidence tampering. The bodycam footage
from December ninth shows Brooks with his hands cuffed behind
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his back at the Marsie Correctional Facility as multiple guards
punched and kicked them.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Brooks was on.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
An infirmary bed when the attack occurred, and at one
point in the video, his face was visibly bloodied. He
was taken to the hospital and died the following day.
An autopsy report that clear brooks manner of death was homicide,
according to his family's attorney. And attorney Elizabeth Mazour told
NBC News that Brooks died due to compression of the
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neck and multiple blunt force injuries. Second degree murder, aggravated
the soul, stuff like that. Why isn't the first degree murder?
I want to know. I guess when you look at
the charges, I mean, they could all be looking at
twenty five years in prison or whatever.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
I mean, a man is dead.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
I wouldn't be I wouldn't be mad if they got
the death penalty. And I don't know how. I'm amazed
how they how folks completely not guilty? You caught him video.
The man is cuffed with his hands behind his back
on an infirmary bed and you're beating him to a
pulp and you're saying you're not guilty.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
How how you know?
Speaker 1 (32:40):
This is not police officers, it's correctional officers. But law
enforcement is law enforcement. Right, unarmed black man is an
unarmed black man?
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Right was he armed?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Was in his hands cuffed behind his back and you
literally beat him to death. Obviously, there was a whole
bunch of people complicit. First we heard thirteen, now we
hear about six being indicted, and then the next thing, you.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Know, seventeen other folks.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
I mean, damn, it was a coordinated attack evidently, So
these bastards should be under the jail. There's no way
that they should get off.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
No way in hell. They took him out.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Take them out, at least take them off the streets
for the rest of their natural lives.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
They committed murder.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
What you gonna say? I only punched them twice. The
other person punched them five times. Anybody that was involved
needs to go down. Anybody that was involved that put
their hands, their feet, a club or whatever whatever it
is on that man, They need to go down, all.
Speaker 6 (34:04):
Of them, all of them.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
You know, when you see stuff like that, because we
saw the video, just take a moment to ask yourself
what if that had been you? Do you understand when
your hands are cuffed behind your back, you don't even
have the ability to.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Cover yourself.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
And shield yourself from the punishment being inflicted upon you.
You don't even get to curl up in a ball
and cover yourself for protective measures.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
You don't even get to do that. Do you realize
that that's what they did to that man. That's what
they did to that man.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Similar to the kind of things that used to be
done to us, which had black folks resembling.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Activists all over this nation. Why do I bring that up.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Because of the subject that I'm about to touch on next,
A man who personified an eye for an eye, who
wasn't about peace and acrimony in the face of being
assaulted and abused. Coming up today marks the sixtieth anniversary
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of the assassination of Malcolm X. What would he think
of where we are today as a nation and where
today's athletes stand with regards to social issue and then,
so I thought I needed to touch on that next
to close out the show. I hope you'll indulge me
by listening last segment of The Steven A.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Smith Show coming up in a minute.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Welcome back to The Stephen A. Smith Show. Now let
me switch to politics. I know I alluded to Malcolm
X and the teas, but I'll get to Malcolm X
in a second because I couldn't forget.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
I couldn't pass up.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Bringing this up, my buddy and longtime Trump supporter, the
great one himself, Mark Levin, is turning heads with an
about face on his steadfast backing of the president.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
The Fox News host, speaking on his eponymous.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Radio show, broke solidarity with Trump over his recent attacks
on Ukrainian President vladim Is Lensky, warning Trump that quote
MAGA doesn't support Putin. Levin said, Trump's recent accusations that
Zelensky is a dictator and that the Ukrainian leader is
stopping free elections and has a very low approval rating
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are all false. Levin said, in part quote, Zelensky ordered
martial law. That's what the constitution they're compelled. Zelensky hasn't
called for an election, That's what the constitution that compels.
Now I'm waiting for the first free election for Vladimir Putin.
I mean, this is almost comical in a sick way
that Putin is.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Demanding an election.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Why is he demanding an election in Ukraine when he
doesn't have free in real elections in his own country.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Why there are people that not only oppose Zelensky but
seem to support Putin. Levin wasn't finished, He continued, Ukraine
did not invade Russia.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Russia invaded Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Ukraine doesn't have the industrial might that a Russia has
or a China. They didn't start this war. What were
they supposed to do? Roll over and play dead. MAGA
doesn't support Putin. Eighty one percent of the American people
do not trust Putin because eighty one percent of the
American people are smart.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
End quote.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
As a reminder, here is what Trump said on truth
Social on Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Quote think of it.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
A modestly successful comedian vladimyor Zelensky talked the United States
of America and is spending three hundred and fifty billion
dollars to.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Go into a ward that couldn't be one that.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Never had to start, but a war that he without
the US and Trump will never be able to settle.
The United States has spent two hundred billion dollars more
than Europe, and Europe's money is guaranteed, while the United
States will get nothing back.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Why didn't sleepy Joe Biden demand.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Equalization and that this war is far more important to
Europe than it is to us.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
We have a big, beautiful.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Ocean, a separation on top of this Zelensky admits that
half of the money we sent them is missing. He
refuses to have elections, is very low in Ukrainian polls,
and the only thing he was good at was playing.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Biden like a fiddle.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
The dictator without elections, Zolensky better move fast or he's
not going to have a country left. I can't take
it no more, give it all. It's just stop it, guys.
I don't need to read more than First of all,
Trump is full of it. And what we need to
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understand is that this looks very, very bad if people
will open their freaking eyes. Because once again, in a
situation involving Potent and Russia, Trump comes across more favorable
towards Potent than the other party. Russia invaded Ukraine. Russia
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initiated the loss of hundreds.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Of thousands of lives.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Russia is considered the one with a dictator. Ukraine only
wants his own sovereignty. It's own sovereign land. Now they're
talking about joining the EU, which they need to, and
I get all of that, but we're talking about a
country that's been invaded.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Now you can make a debate, you can make an argument,
did the United States give them too much money. Okay.
You could say that Joe Biden.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
The elect to give them too much money, okay, But
to turn around and call him a dictator while speaking
favorably of Putin makes no sense. And props to Mark
Levin for calling it out. Let me give y'all a background,
because see, people see me talking to liberals and they
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know that I voted for Kamala Harris and stuff like that.
Sean Handedy is not my only buddy, so is Mark Levin.
I've known him for twenty years. I'm on his show frequently.
He calls me all the time. His nickname is the
Great One.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
You know why.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
I think it's appropriate because I've never seen an individual
in my life that wanted to debate that man because
he knows what the hell he's talking about. Constitutional law
expert for those of you who don't know. And I
almost never hear him speaking against diehard Republicans. He might
be going to good Rhinos Republicans and name only, yeah,
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he'll call them out, but he certainly never spoke against Trump.
He's been one of the most staunched supporters of Trump.
So for Trump to be called out by him, there's
a big, big deal. You're listening to me, Sean Hannedy,
Are you listening? I mean when you call me on
as a guest on your show, is Handedy Handedy nine
pm week nights, nine pm Eastern Standard Time on Fox News,
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where I have visited frequently. I ain't hear you call
me about this one, Sean Handedy, what's up? I don't
hear you talking now that the Great One has disagreed
with your boy Donald Trump. See what the Republicans are
gonna have to get beyond. And I'm not casting any
of his spursions on. Let me be very very clear,
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friends with Handity Levin. I'm a fan of Megan Kelly
and the work that she does. I really really am.
I was on Dave Rubin's podcast.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Okay, all right. I mean, you know, I've known Chris
Christy for years.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
There's plenty of Republicans, and there's plenty of conservative policies
that I don't mind a lot. I don't like either, though,
But here's the deal. I bring all of that up
to say right is right and wrong is wrong. And
I appreciate Mark Levin being one of those Republicans that
doesn't say that Donald Trump is spreading perfume when he's
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passing gas.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
I appreciate that because somebody got to do it.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
If you don't have people on the right that I'm
I'm willing to say to Donald Trump, Yo, man, you're
going a bit too far. Yo man, I think this
is the wrong way to go. I don't think this
is good for the country. I don't think this is
good for the world. I think you're wrong on this one.
As Mark Levin articulated very eloquently, I might add, if
you don't have anybody on the right that's willing to
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do that, then we are in trouble.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
See.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
To me, the issue of Trump being in office is
not the biggest issue. It's him being an office devoid
of checks and balances. I don't mind him being in
his office more than our mind the Republicans having both
the House and the Senate.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
And he gets to operate with impunity. That's my fear.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
But Mark Levin provided everybody hope see, and just to
remind y'all, just as in the side, Republicans are welcome
on the show. If you ain't seen them on, they
it's because they haven't elected to come Byron, Donald's been.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
On this show before.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
We've put out personal invitations to Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz,
jd Vance, Donald Trump himself. Okay, handed he's already been
on this show. I don't have any problems. I'm a
fair minded individual. I'm an independent I want both sides
expressing themselves to the American I don't have to be
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an expert, mister James Carvel, to interview somebody and to
get their perspective, to let the American.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
People hear what they have to say, and then you
be the judge.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
But I know this much, I don't need to be
an expert on the war in Ukraine to recognize the
fact that Russia did attack them. You could talk about
the history, the role of the United States played in it.
You know, you could talk about that all day long.
I got my notes on that stuff. We can get
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into that another day. In the end, Russia elected to
attack Ukraine. And because Russia elected to do that, you
can't get around that. You can't be talking about Russia
like they're the friendly folds that they didn't instigate this war.
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Mark Levin was absolutely right. I was a fan of
his show to begin with, but I appreciated him even
more today because when you take the kind of stance
that he has taken against Donald Trump, it shows that
you're trustworthy.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
I knew that before him before, but I know it
even more now.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Let's see if the rest follows. Okay, somebody farting passing
gas is farting and passing gas.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
It's not perfume.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
It's nice to see somebody on the right willing to
call it like that.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
Okay, right is right? Wrong is wrong?
Speaker 1 (45:45):
Donald Trump and going after Selensky. Nah, you ain't got
any business doing that. You don't want to give more money.
Don't give you more money, But you ain't got to
talk about him like that, like he's the villain and
all of this. That's going a bit too far last it.
I'm at the show I want to get into. I
want to I brought this up earlier, and it's involved
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with Malcolm X, the Late Great Malcolm X. Today, February
twenty first marks the sixtieth anniversary of the death of
the activistiness of a rights leader who was assassinated at
the Auderbonn Ballroom in Harlem, New York in nineteen sixty five.
Malcolm was a vocal advocate for black empowerment and the
promotion of Islam within the African American community, of course,
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and beyond. While a controversial figure to some accused of
preaching violence, Malcolm X is also a widely celebrated figure
of many Americans for his pursuit of racial justice. As
I think about Malcolm X and what he stood for,
I find myself wondering what he would think.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
About today's culture, particularly.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
When it comes to the modern athlete. But before I
get into that, let me say this. Malcolm X was
not a man that preached violence. Were gonna put that
to bed right now. He preached an io and I.
He preached the importance of one self protection. He preached
the importance of not turning to turn in the other
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cheek when somebody punches you, or slaps you, or kicks
you or beats you. Last time I checked that self defense.
That's not preaching violence. He certainly didn't propose instigating it
and igniting it. He talked about defending oneself and not
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letting people abuse you and just standing by idly and
doing nothing.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
So let's get that out the way first.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Secondly, I thought it was important to bring this subject
up today because.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
We saw the Four Nations hockey tournament.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
Come to his conclusion last night in Boston, Massachusetts, where
Canada beat the United States three too after Donald Trump
gave a call to the Team USA by the way,
you know, encouraging them the victory before they lost.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
But that's a different subject for another day. Not his fault.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
But it happened and after we saw that match, and
even when we saw it Saturday, and we saw United
States being booled while the United States national anthem was
being sung, and we saw the Canadians come at us
the way that they did. We beat them Saturday, they
beat us last night. We have to remember.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
What instigated that, what started that to some.
Speaker 1 (48:24):
Degree, Donald Trump talking about making Canada the fifty first state.
Obviously they don't take condy to that, okay. And Trudeau
Trudell rather president of Canada, he came, you know, he
spoke about that as well in the aftermath.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
Of Canada's victory.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
It's important to recognize that emanating off of that subject.
At the same time that hockey had elevated its profile
exponentially because everybody was watching. Because of the friction and
attention that existed between Team USA and Canada, it was
an opportunity to also lament what we had witnessed for
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NBA All Star Weekend in San Francisco this past Sunday.
We saw a new format institute. We saw players, new
rules implemented because players hadn't been given effort and they
were walking around like they didn't care. Now, what would
that have to do with the assassination of Malcolm X.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
Directly? Absolutely nothing. Indirectly.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
Everything you see Malcolm Max was about black empowerment. He
was also about black economic empowerment. He wanted us he
wanted equal opportunities and civil rights for us as a
nation of people. He also wanted us to maximize those
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opportunities and achieve all we could process of that, uplift
one another along the way, become a coalition, not be
a collection of individual parts, but come together as one
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and understand the importance of being together and how much
that would serve to empower us in whatever agendas and
missions we had moving forward. We just sat here and
we talked about Donald Trump, and we talked about Donald
Trump talking about the president of Ukraine. We didn't talk
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about Donald Trump's position and purging parts of the federal government,
including DEI. We didn't talk about some of the things
black folks fair. As my buddy Roland Martin pointed out
when he said that there's a concerted effort to scale
back every bit of progress we made since civil rights
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legislation came into play in nineteen sixty four.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
We haven't talked about that.
Speaker 1 (51:03):
You know what else we wouldn't have to if we
were together more, but would not. And that's why I
thought that on a day like today, where we're acknowledging
the sixty year anniversary of the assassination of Malcolm Xwell,
was to remind people of exactly who he was and
what he would have hoped for. Yes, Malcolm x evolved, Yes,
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as he evolved, he thought a little bit differently, and
he was more embracing of a mosaic society as opposed
to just a black one. All of those things are true,
But he also preached about the importance of togetherness. And
I think about so many things that professional athletes have
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and the wealth they've been able to accumulate, to accumulate,
the generational wealth that some have been able to acquire,
and how there's so many many instances where we're nothing
more than individual parts. I wonder, for example, when the
George Floyd murders took place, the George Floyd murder in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
Right around the time of COVID.
Speaker 1 (52:18):
I wonder what would have happened instead of folks talking
about taking the knee and locking arms with one another.
I wonder what would have happened if the athletes themselves
have pulled their resources and used that money to funnel
the lobbyists on Capitol Hill to push their agendas to
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the politicians who are legislating laws in our land. Could
you imagine what that would have done. Think about some
of the things that we're questioning right now. Think about
some of the things that are going on in our society.
Think about the fear that's permitting through our nation, where
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you talk about people losing their rights, wondering what's going
to happen to them. Think about entitlement programs is going
to evaporate before our very honest think about all those things.
Would we have to worry about it as much if
folks had come together and pulled their resources to make
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sure to provide real influence so real things could get done.
When I think about Malcolm X, just like when I
think about doctor Martin Luther King Jr. I think of that,
and on a daylight today, not only do I think
Malcolm X on the sixtieth anniversary of his assassination, I
also think about doctor Martin Luther King Jr. And what
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the late great Harry Belafonte once said that Doctor Martin
Luther King said to him in his waning days. As
matter of fact, it might have been the day he
was assassinated. He said, I fear that I've led our
people into a burning house preaching about the importance of
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desegregation and all that could emanate from it. He wondered
whether or not he truly had led us into a
burning house, that what he had wished for, that what
we would ultimately capture, would lead to our fragmentation instead
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of our togetherness. I don't know if that's what happened.
More qualified minds than me can speculate about that or
even edify you with their information. What I can say
is that on a daylight today, it is appropriate to
at least think about that, to least ask yourself that question,
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how together are we?
Speaker 2 (54:56):
How together should we be? And if indeed we.
Speaker 1 (55:00):
Ever came together, how much beneficial would it be for
all of us, not just the black community. But America
as a whole. It's just a thought that I thought
I could leave y'all with for the weekend. I hope
you appreciate where I'm coming from, and I thank you
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for listening. Have a wonderful weekend. God bless you all,
and I'll talk to y'all on Monday. Until then, Peace
of love, everybody.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
I'm out.
Correctional offices, indicted in the murder of a black man,
the assassination of Malcolm X the sixty year anniversary. What
on earth does that have to do with today's professional
athletes and a Democratic strategist, a well known one, is
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attacking Wall.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Basically told me to shut the f up.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Obviously, I ain't gonna listen to that stephen A. Smith's
show in the house. He asked for it. Here I come.
What's up, everybody. Welcome to the latest edition of The
(00:50):
stephen A. Smith Show, coming at you over the digital
airways of YouTube, and of course iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I'm gonna get right into it. You know, I got
love for y'all.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I'm always thinking about subscribers and follows, but I got
a lot of enough to get into, particularly this first item.
There's a lot of stuff to talk about today, but
this is the number one thing on my mind, and
I'm not gonna waste a second delaying you know this
onslaught that's about to come. We're gonna get started with
Democratic strategist James Carville, who felt the need to call
me out on his Politican podcast earlier this week. The
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Raging Cajun as he is affectionately known is apparently upset
with my recent political commentary where I have been critical
of the state of the Democratic Party. To refresh our memory,
here's part of what I had to say earlier that
got him all up in a tizzy.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Check it out.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
That's why I'm in the news. I'm not in the
news because I'm here.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I'm in the news because the Democratic Party is here.
Damn it. Lower than that down at the bottom.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
They suck right now, horrible because.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
They don't have a voice. Where the hell of the voice?
Everybody want to sit up there.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Talking about I mean, I need a vice, we need it,
but we don't need a voice. We don't need Well,
guess what somebody got to send a message? Kind of
how can somebody receive a message.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
If there's no messenger?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
In response to what you just saw me, see, that's
when Carville evidently lost it and he went on his
Politicon podcast and had this personal message to give.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
To me, even though it was seen by everybody. Take
a look.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Okay, you know I am a big Stephen A Smith fan.
I remember I saw him some years ago on TV.
When it comes to politics, he don't know his from
a hole in the ground. He's on that running his
damn mouth about how he may have to run as
a Democrat because there's nothing left the Democratic Party. There's
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no talent. Stephen, are you me? I mean, you say
you're friends with Wes Moore and you say you're friends
with Josh Shapiro. I'm friends with both of them. I
think they're really extraordinary talented people. I got news for you, dude.
That's six or seven other people in a Democratic Party
that are just that talented. So before you start running
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your mouth off about politics, a topic of what you
really don't know anything about, you ought to sit back
and think about it and call some people and run
it by it. So Stephen a, keep up your own sports.
I enjoy it, I like it, but don't make a
fool of yourself anymore and talking about politics.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
What I find interesting about all of this is that
a lot of what James Carvill himself has been seeing
sounds a lot like what the hell I've been seeing.
But before I get into that first order business study,
you have to be so rude, you know, dropping f
bombs and going all you know, going off like that.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I mean, I know that's your nature. I understand that
but let's just say.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Two can do that, you know, I mean, if you
really wanted to get raw, ain't nobody hiding from that?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I could be that way.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
It's just that my mama taught me to respect my elders,
and you are eighty years of age, if I remember correctly,
and I'm trying to be respectful, so I'm not gonna
come at.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
You the way that you came to me. I thought
that was completely unnecessary. That's number one.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Number two, I religiously say I'm no political officionado.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I religiously say I don't know politics like that.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I read, I watch the news. I'm a conscientious observer.
But I do have to ask you a question, mister
James Carville, albeit rhetorically, you do know that you're talking
to a voter, right.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Could that be one of the reasons why y'all lost
just a thought.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Because you sound like one of those old curmudgeons that.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Things to stay or be the way that they used
to be.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
And you're resentful, harboring an abundance of animosity because you're
not being heard. That's not Stephen A. Smith's fault, sir,
that's that damn Democratic party that I was talking.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
About you see, they shouldn't listen to me.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Do you realize, James Carville, that that means they shouldn't
have listened to you either, Which makes no sense because
we were both right. Because guess what what I was
saying is what you were saying. I saw you on
Fox News, I saw you on CNN, I saw you on.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Your podcast before the election. What the hell you think?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I got some of the stuff from when you were
talking about the Democratic Party. I'm making that up. I'm
making it up.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
When you were lamenting their strategy, I'm making it up.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
When I talked about Kamala Harris and not resonating with
the audience, I'm making it up. When I talked about
wolk culture, I'm making it up. When I talked about
they weren't focused on the right issues. I'm making that up.
You didn't say any of those things. I tell you what,
Let's see the audience. Let's show the audience rather exactly
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what you said.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I didn't say hearing. I said, let's show it to
them so they can see your faith. They know it's you,
They know it you, James Carfield. This is your talking.
Take a listen.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
We have no legislative power. We have no executive power.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
We have no judicial power.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
So when you're out of power, you're an opposition party,
and go and tell all of the people that are
are sending you and asking you for money, justify what
you did, Justify what you did wrong, and tell us
what you're going to do different because what you've done
ain't worth a shit. Get your head around that. In
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all of the Washington based Democrats farting around going to
wine and cheese parties and talking about how misogyn mistigation.
You get your ass out of Washington and go work
on a twenty twenty six campaign and do penance to
make up for your goddamn arrogance and stupidity. Well, we're
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gonna say we told you so. We told you this
identity shit was disaster. We told you to get out
in front of public safety issues.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
You didn't.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
We told you to have an open process and demonstrate
the magnificent and staggering and deep talent that existed in
the mind Democratic Party.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
You didn't.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
We told you to differentiate yourself of Biden.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
You didn't.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
I hate to be some fucking know it all, but
all of these things are part of the record.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Where Did I hear that before? I mean, did you
hear him speaking ladies and gentlemen? Did you hear him
speaking about woke culture? Did you hear him speaking about
how you needed to separate yourself from Joe Biden? Did
you hear him speaking about there was no primary? You
remember that stuff? Which y'all hear that before? What'd you
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here before?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
You thought I was finished? I got more. I got more.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Play the next clip of James Carville, please show up.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
The first thing is somebody runs for Democratic nomination in
twenty twenty eight. The first thing that I want to
hear out of their mouth is I'm taking our message everywhere.
And when I say everywhere, I mean everywhere. I mean
Joe Rogan, I mean Fox News, I mean Sunday Morning shows,
I mean everything. I'm proudb what we have to offer.
I'm gonna go out and promote it, and I'm gonna
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go out and defend it, and I'm gonna go out
and tack them, and I'm gonna do.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
That all the time.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Secondly, all of our events are going to be fun.
There's gonna be great music, there's gonna be great comedians
that are gonna tell jokes before I come up. It's
gonna be an entirely different thing.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
With dour, it's always.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Somebody's in a pissy mood. Somebody's just the people which
is not connecting. We're not connecting at all. And it's
just going to require some discipline, and it's going to
require a change of attitude.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Just a little thought, mister James Carville, are you sure
you wanting to be the dude that's pointing out how
the Democrats look so dour.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
And always in a pissy mood. You show you the
right person that should deliver that message. Have you looked
in the mirror you show yourself. You've seen the way
you've talked about yourself. You see the way you disseminate
a message.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
You don't look dour, you don't look down, you don't
look enthusiastic.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Come on now, listen, sir.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I respect you, and by the way, I appreciate your
compliments about my sports career, my career in sports broadcasting,
what have you is very kind of that part, very
very much, so, thank you, very very much. I do
appreciate that, and I feel the same way about your
political career. It's the economy, stupid, still one of the
most famous lines in political history back in nineteen ninety
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two when Clinton was running for.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Office before he won the presidency. I got it. I understand.
I know who you are. I know you've got your chops.
I get you.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
But respectfully, sir, it's a couple of things that you
need to understand. Most voters out there aren't political officionados.
But just because they're not doesn't mean that they don't
know that you know their ass from a hole in
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the wall. As you described me, I saw inflation. I
saw the economy not being what the Democrats purported it was.
I saw crime in the streets. I saw a crisis
at our borders. I saw a president that was clearly dominic,
to say the least. I saw a Democratic party debatably,
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arguably engage in undemocratic behavior when you ultimately greased the
skids to make sure he didn't experience a primary, to
ultimately send him to that debate stage June twenty seventh,
and embarrassed himself, waiting an additional three weeks for him
to get out of office so you could put Kamala
Harris in there without any resistance. I heard you lament
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that well, I lamented it too. I complained about it too.
So we have to be as knowledgeable and as informed
and as connected as James Carville to have a salient
and decent opinion about what the hell is going on
with the Democratic Party.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
That's what it takes.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
So respectfully, you're wrong, and you know you're wrong. Now,
there's a lot of people that should have listened to you,
and they made a mistake. I'm not listening to you.
I'm the exact opposite. You were one of the people
that I was listening to break down the problems with
the Democratic Party.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
But in that sound that.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I played for our audience, I noticed that there was
a level of inconsistency there. You talked about going to
see she should go and interview and sit down with everybody, the.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Joe Rogans of the world.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
The list goes on and on. Well, it's funny, sir,
mister James Carville. I'm reading an article from Newsweek in November,
and in that article before the election, you were talking
about how you didn't like her strategy or the immediate
after math of the election. I'm sorry you were lamenting
how you didn't like the fact that she was sitting
down with everybody.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Actually, I think it was before the election you.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Were talking about how you didn't like the fact that
she was gonna sit down with Fox News, that she
was gonna go on to view and all of this
sudden stuff. You were talking about how you didn't like that.
Now you sit back talking about if I'm a Democrat,
I'd be around everybody. I'd go talk to everybody. That
ain't what you said months ago. That's not what you said, sir,
so respectfully, let me state this again for everybody to listen.
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My life is pretty damn good. I have no desire
to be a politician. I wouldn't want to contaminate and
sully my life by entrenching myself in that cesspool in
the nation's capital. I'm very very clear about that. And
the pay would be significantly less. Let me add that too,
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at least for the eight years I'm in office, because
I damn sure if I win the first election, I
ain't losing a second. So understand, I have no desire
for it. What I said was, it's an absolute embarrassment
that I am the person that's being mentioned and named.
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It's a disgrace to this Democratic party. It shows you
have no bullpen, and I know that's what got you
your intenders up, and that's what robbed you up even
more so because you brought up how I have a
relationship with Wes Moore and Joshapiro.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Jos Shapiro. I met him one time of my life.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I talked to him one time of my life, and Hey,
I think he's a fabulous governor for the state of Pennsylvania,
and I think he knows his stuff and I'm honored
to have met him, and I'm looking forward to cultivating
a relationship with him. West Moore is a different animal.
I love this brother. I know him through sports because
he and I talk about the Ravens all the time.
I think he's doing a damn good job with the
state of Maryland, and if there is a Democratic nominee
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to look at, it is definitely him. I think Wes
Wore is an absolute winner. I'm not apologizing for that
to anybody. I did not mean to imply that there's
nobody in the bullpen in terms of their capability, sir.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
What I'm saying is who's resonating.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
With the national audience because you got Trump and that
cult like following that he has, who will go along
with whoever Trump says to go along with in the
event that he doesn't manipulate the Constitution and ends up
getting a third term, so you can put his vote.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
You can qualify that as lock stock, Beryl.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Who's the Democrat that can galvanize an audience on a
nationwide level.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
To pull off the level of support.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
That it's going to take to upend and usurp a
Trump alcoholie or somebody like that in the future.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Who is that person going to be?
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Do I have to be in officionado in politics to
say something like that. The Washington Post wrote an article
about me today. God a damn halo over my head,
trying to act like I'm Jesus, like I'm some savior. Ridiculous,
But i don't mind. It was a good article and
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I'm not insulted by it. I'm simply saying, to paint
me in that picture, No, I'm not that dude. But
in that article, Will Caine, my former colleague at ESPN
now a host at Fox News With the Week they
show every week there four pmmes to send the time.
I'm happy for him, I'm proud of them. In the
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same breath that he was complimentary of me. He said
I didn't know enough about the issues. He's absolutely right.
I never said I did. I don't study Capitol Hill
like I study sports.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Do y'all want me to.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Do?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
You know what kind of havoc i'd wreak if I
sat down for a few weeks and just buried.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
My brain and my face and my mind into the
nuances of politics and what transpires on Capitol Hill?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Are y'all sure? Y'all want that smoke? You sure about that?
Speaker 1 (16:41):
I mean, because it's like you're daring me too, mister
James Carvert, Like you're daring me too?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
You sure are?
Speaker 1 (16:46):
You?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Sure? Might want to think about that? Because you see
when you sit.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Back and you allow your eye to subside and you
embrace the true, authentic words that I was spewing. I
wasn't questioning Josh Shapiro. I wasn't questioning Wes Moore. I'm
not even questioning somebody like harrold Ford Jr. Who works
on the five on Fox on Fox News. I think
that the composure that he shows and what have you.
(17:18):
He's a former representative. I think he could do some
good things. All of these people are more qualified than me.
All of them are more knowledgeable than me. How difficult
is it to get knowledgeable about politics?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
If I really really wanted to make some noise all the.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Tanks is a few weeks and a few phone calls
with people that I can clearly talk to because I
got him on speed dial.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
It ain't that hard.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
It's just not a lane I want to venture into
an in an official capacity. I'd much rather remain a
punder that lane. Commentator. But if you really really think,
James Carville, about what I said, You've been saying the
exact same things, which brings me to the culminating point
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of my diet tribe that dare I say.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Might make you a bit uncomfortable?
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Is what I said really the problem since most of
what I've said are things that I also heard you say.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Or is it the fact that some novice.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Who doesn't know as as from a hole in the
wall when it comes to politics is resonating in the
political stratosgy of more than you.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
The latter might be the case, it shouldn't be.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
I would advise anybody in the world to listen to
you about politics more than me. That is not where
I'm going. What I'm saying sir, is that you coming
at me the way that you did, with your frustration
and your vitriol and your disrespect, which.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Was completely unnecessary.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Although you were complimentary about the sports, sir, I'm accusing
your anger of being misplaced.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Doesn't lie with me.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Whether I'm talking about politics or I engaged in politics,
I would always want to hear what you have to say.
Problem is not with me, my man. The problem is
with those folks who are entrenched in politics on Capitol Hill,
young whipper snappers, breath smelling like Similac, wet behind the ears,
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that don't want to listen to somebody like you.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
They pushed you out like you're an old guard. Similar
to what happens in sports when you got.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
These young dudes that are heavily in the analytics that
push out the older, wiser, elder basketball minds.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
It happens in politics too.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Those young kids on Capitol Hill don't want to hear
what you have to say, evidenced by their faulty strategy
during the election cycle, which you have religiously condemned. So,
in other words, your problem isn't with me. Your problem
is with them. Take it up with them, and if
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you're gonna mention my name. Can we cut out the profanity?
Can we stop cussing? Can we stop acting like with juveniles?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
You're better than that, sir, You're better than that.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
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An attorney representing Sean Dinny Combs in this sex trafficking
case announced that he is stepping down as counsel. In
a statement, Anthony Rico stated, quote, although I have provided
Sean Combs with a high level of legal representation expected
by the court, under no circumstances can I continue to
effectively serve as council.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
For Sean Combs end quote.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Rico did not give an explanation, but said it would
not affect Combs's May fifth federal trial date. Rico, who
was retained by Colmes in September, did not immediately respond
to a request for comment. Colmbs has five other attorneys
on his team.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
End quote.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Let me say this, anytime an attorney backs out, that's
not a good look. Now, there could be of a
variety of reasons as to why this happened, and we
all get that. I understand that, But anytime an attorney
backs out, particularly of a high profile case like this,
is not a good look. And I'm gonna tell y'all why.
Because if you are an attorney. The more acclaim your
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client has, the more popularity your client has, the more recognition,
the notoriety your client has, the more you benefit from
a positive outcome in favor of that client. So that client,
if Sean Diddy Combs gets off sets trafficking and racketeering
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charges and the jury finds him not guilty months from now,
and he's able to walk out the courtroom a free man,
you know how good that makes those attorneys look. Everybody
will be clamoring for the cameras, every single one of them.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
They'll be going crazy. They'll all be clamoring for the cameras.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
So I'm saying all of that to you to say,
if that's the case, let's understand what we're talking about here, Okay,
it's very very important that we do that.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
An attorney walking away, sometimes.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
It's because they don't get the lead chair, one of
the lead chairs. Sometimes it's because a client is lying.
Sometimes it's because they believe wholeheartedly that the client is
going to be guilty and they don't want to be
associated with that guilt because that's a loss on their record.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
It could be a variety.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Of things, but the fact that we are speculating about that.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
When a trial date hasn't even started yet.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Concerns me because I'm one of those people, ladies and gentlemen,
who firmly believes it's virtually impossible to find a jury
that's not contaminated by some kind of information that's been put.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Out to the public before a trial begins.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I'm not one of those that believes that May fifth
is May fifth. I mean, come on, now, that's more
than two months away. Jury ain't been selected yet. You're
trying to tell me nobody that's on a jury will
have heard.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
That a lawyer backed out of the case.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I don't know about y'all, but I find that that's
not a good thing for Seawan Diddy Combs.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
For something like that to happen, that's not a good thing.
What's goods if.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
You fire a dude, But if the dude fires you
as a client, even if you got five other lawyers
and that was the first dude you went to when
you retain the services in.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
September, that's not a good look.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I have not done anything to contribute to the guilt
or innocence of Sean Diddy Combs.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
I don't know what the hell happened.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
The only thing we've done that I thought was incredibly
incriminating was that video of him beating up his ex girlfriend,
Cassie Ventura in the hotel. That's it, because I was
on CNN. It was all over the place. That's the
only thing. Anything else. I brought legal analysts on here,
back and forth. I brought Hollywood reporters back, back and forth,
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because I want to make sure that we don't make
any assertions or something.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
As to his.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Innocence or guilt, because you gotta be responsible. But I'm
gonna tell you it's.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Not a good look for your lawyer to back out,
just saying that. For the record, coming up.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
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But Robert Brooks was beaten to death, wild handcuffed. He
wasn't just killed, he was tortured on camera.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
It was caught on video. Where are the arrest I
want names, I want faces that the governor of New
York is gonna come out and says thirteen correctional offices.
I want to know all thirteen. I want their names,
I want their face this, I want them on camera,
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every one of them, every one of them.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Welcome back to the stephen A. Smith Show right here
with the digital. It was a YouTube and of course iHeartRadio.
That was me speaking on December thirty first, upon learning
about the story that I'm about to reiterate to you
right now because in the latest on this story we
discussed on this show when it happened in December. Murder
charges have been announced in the death of Robert Brooks,
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a forty three year old inmate who was beaten by
guards at a prison in Upstate New York. Governor Cathy
Hochel announced the chargers Thursday. In a statement, Hoko said, quote,
Robert Brooks should be alive today. The brutal attack on
mister Brooks was sickening, and I immediately moved to terminate
the employment of those involved end quote. In the grand
(30:15):
jury indictment, six correctional officers were charged with second degree
murder and first degree manslaughter. Two of them were also
charged with the gang assault. The sixth charged with second
degree murder on Nicholas and Zelone, David Kingsley, Anthony Anthony Farina,
Christopher Warreth, Matthew Gallaher and an unnamed person. You see
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their faces right there, take a little let's pause for
a second. Let's look at their faces right now, hey,
one of them.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
I don't like the fact that they turned sideways.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Personally, I want to see them front I want to
see the frontal view, like Angeloni. I want to see
who the rest of them are. Why is Kingsley, Farina,
Warreth and Gallaher side?
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Wait, that's what I want to know, but I digress.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Seventeen employees, including four sergeants and two nurses, were alleged
to be involved in the death, and was suspended as
a result of the incident. Four others were charged in
the grand jury indictment and connection with the case on
varying charges including manslaughter and evidence tampering. The bodycam footage
from December ninth shows Brooks with his hands cuffed behind
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his back at the Marsie Correctional Facility as multiple guards
punched and kicked them.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Brooks was on.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
An infirmary bed when the attack occurred, and at one
point in the video, his face was visibly bloodied. He
was taken to the hospital and died the following day.
An autopsy report that clear brooks manner of death was homicide,
according to his family's attorney. And attorney Elizabeth Mazour told
NBC News that Brooks died due to compression of the
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neck and multiple blunt force injuries. Second degree murder, aggravated
the soul, stuff like that. Why isn't the first degree murder?
I want to know. I guess when you look at
the charges, I mean, they could all be looking at
twenty five years in prison or whatever.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
I mean, a man is dead.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
I wouldn't be I wouldn't be mad if they got
the death penalty. And I don't know how. I'm amazed
how they how folks completely not guilty? You caught him video.
The man is cuffed with his hands behind his back
on an infirmary bed and you're beating him to a
pulp and you're saying you're not guilty.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
How how you know?
Speaker 1 (32:40):
This is not police officers, it's correctional officers. But law
enforcement is law enforcement. Right, unarmed black man is an
unarmed black man?
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Right was he armed?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Was in his hands cuffed behind his back and you
literally beat him to death. Obviously, there was a whole
bunch of people complicit. First we heard thirteen, now we
hear about six being indicted, and then the next thing, you.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Know, seventeen other folks.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
I mean, damn, it was a coordinated attack evidently, So
these bastards should be under the jail. There's no way
that they should get off.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
No way in hell. They took him out.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Take them out, at least take them off the streets
for the rest of their natural lives.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
They committed murder.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
What you gonna say? I only punched them twice. The
other person punched them five times. Anybody that was involved
needs to go down. Anybody that was involved that put
their hands, their feet, a club or whatever whatever it
is on that man, They need to go down, all.
Speaker 6 (34:04):
Of them, all of them.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
You know, when you see stuff like that, because we
saw the video, just take a moment to ask yourself
what if that had been you? Do you understand when
your hands are cuffed behind your back, you don't even
have the ability to.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Cover yourself.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
And shield yourself from the punishment being inflicted upon you.
You don't even get to curl up in a ball
and cover yourself for protective measures.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
You don't even get to do that. Do you realize
that that's what they did to that man. That's what
they did to that man.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Similar to the kind of things that used to be
done to us, which had black folks resembling.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Activists all over this nation. Why do I bring that up.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Because of the subject that I'm about to touch on next,
A man who personified an eye for an eye, who
wasn't about peace and acrimony in the face of being
assaulted and abused. Coming up today marks the sixtieth anniversary
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of the assassination of Malcolm X. What would he think
of where we are today as a nation and where
today's athletes stand with regards to social issue and then,
so I thought I needed to touch on that next
to close out the show. I hope you'll indulge me
by listening last segment of The Steven A.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Smith Show coming up in a minute.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Welcome back to The Stephen A. Smith Show. Now let
me switch to politics. I know I alluded to Malcolm
X and the teas, but I'll get to Malcolm X
in a second because I couldn't forget.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
I couldn't pass up.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Bringing this up, my buddy and longtime Trump supporter, the
great one himself, Mark Levin, is turning heads with an
about face on his steadfast backing of the president.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
The Fox News host, speaking on his eponymous.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Radio show, broke solidarity with Trump over his recent attacks
on Ukrainian President vladim Is Lensky, warning Trump that quote
MAGA doesn't support Putin. Levin said, Trump's recent accusations that
Zelensky is a dictator and that the Ukrainian leader is
stopping free elections and has a very low approval rating
(37:03):
are all false. Levin said, in part quote, Zelensky ordered
martial law. That's what the constitution they're compelled. Zelensky hasn't
called for an election, That's what the constitution that compels.
Now I'm waiting for the first free election for Vladimir Putin.
I mean, this is almost comical in a sick way
that Putin is.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Demanding an election.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Why is he demanding an election in Ukraine when he
doesn't have free in real elections in his own country.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Why there are people that not only oppose Zelensky but
seem to support Putin. Levin wasn't finished, He continued, Ukraine
did not invade Russia.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Russia invaded Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Ukraine doesn't have the industrial might that a Russia has
or a China. They didn't start this war. What were
they supposed to do? Roll over and play dead. MAGA
doesn't support Putin. Eighty one percent of the American people
do not trust Putin because eighty one percent of the
American people are smart.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
End quote.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
As a reminder, here is what Trump said on truth
Social on Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Quote think of it.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
A modestly successful comedian vladimyor Zelensky talked the United States
of America and is spending three hundred and fifty billion
dollars to.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Go into a ward that couldn't be one that.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Never had to start, but a war that he without
the US and Trump will never be able to settle.
The United States has spent two hundred billion dollars more
than Europe, and Europe's money is guaranteed, while the United
States will get nothing back.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Why didn't sleepy Joe Biden demand.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Equalization and that this war is far more important to
Europe than it is to us.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
We have a big, beautiful.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Ocean, a separation on top of this Zelensky admits that
half of the money we sent them is missing. He
refuses to have elections, is very low in Ukrainian polls,
and the only thing he was good at was playing.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Biden like a fiddle.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
The dictator without elections, Zolensky better move fast or he's
not going to have a country left. I can't take
it no more, give it all. It's just stop it, guys.
I don't need to read more than First of all,
Trump is full of it. And what we need to
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understand is that this looks very, very bad if people
will open their freaking eyes. Because once again, in a
situation involving Potent and Russia, Trump comes across more favorable
towards Potent than the other party. Russia invaded Ukraine. Russia
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initiated the loss of hundreds.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Of thousands of lives.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Russia is considered the one with a dictator. Ukraine only
wants his own sovereignty. It's own sovereign land. Now they're
talking about joining the EU, which they need to, and
I get all of that, but we're talking about a
country that's been invaded.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Now you can make a debate, you can make an argument,
did the United States give them too much money. Okay.
You could say that Joe Biden.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
The elect to give them too much money, okay, But
to turn around and call him a dictator while speaking
favorably of Putin makes no sense. And props to Mark
Levin for calling it out. Let me give y'all a background,
because see, people see me talking to liberals and they
(40:24):
know that I voted for Kamala Harris and stuff like that.
Sean Handedy is not my only buddy, so is Mark Levin.
I've known him for twenty years. I'm on his show frequently.
He calls me all the time. His nickname is the
Great One.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
You know why.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
I think it's appropriate because I've never seen an individual
in my life that wanted to debate that man because
he knows what the hell he's talking about. Constitutional law
expert for those of you who don't know. And I
almost never hear him speaking against diehard Republicans. He might
be going to good Rhinos Republicans and name only, yeah,
(41:02):
he'll call them out, but he certainly never spoke against Trump.
He's been one of the most staunched supporters of Trump.
So for Trump to be called out by him, there's
a big, big deal. You're listening to me, Sean Hannedy,
Are you listening? I mean when you call me on
as a guest on your show, is Handedy Handedy nine
pm week nights, nine pm Eastern Standard Time on Fox News,
(41:24):
where I have visited frequently. I ain't hear you call
me about this one, Sean Handedy, what's up? I don't
hear you talking now that the Great One has disagreed
with your boy Donald Trump. See what the Republicans are
gonna have to get beyond. And I'm not casting any
of his spursions on. Let me be very very clear,
(41:45):
friends with Handity Levin. I'm a fan of Megan Kelly
and the work that she does. I really really am.
I was on Dave Rubin's podcast.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Okay, all right. I mean, you know, I've known Chris
Christy for years.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
There's plenty of Republicans, and there's plenty of conservative policies
that I don't mind a lot. I don't like either, though,
But here's the deal. I bring all of that up
to say right is right and wrong is wrong. And
I appreciate Mark Levin being one of those Republicans that
doesn't say that Donald Trump is spreading perfume when he's
(42:22):
passing gas.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
I appreciate that because somebody got to do it.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
If you don't have people on the right that I'm
I'm willing to say to Donald Trump, Yo, man, you're
going a bit too far. Yo man, I think this
is the wrong way to go. I don't think this
is good for the country. I don't think this is
good for the world. I think you're wrong on this one.
As Mark Levin articulated very eloquently, I might add, if
you don't have anybody on the right that's willing to
(42:52):
do that, then we are in trouble.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
See.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
To me, the issue of Trump being in office is
not the biggest issue. It's him being an office devoid
of checks and balances. I don't mind him being in
his office more than our mind the Republicans having both
the House and the Senate.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
And he gets to operate with impunity. That's my fear.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
But Mark Levin provided everybody hope see, and just to
remind y'all, just as in the side, Republicans are welcome
on the show. If you ain't seen them on, they
it's because they haven't elected to come Byron, Donald's been.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
On this show before.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
We've put out personal invitations to Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz,
jd Vance, Donald Trump himself. Okay, handed he's already been
on this show. I don't have any problems. I'm a
fair minded individual. I'm an independent I want both sides
expressing themselves to the American I don't have to be
(44:01):
an expert, mister James Carvel, to interview somebody and to
get their perspective, to let the American.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
People hear what they have to say, and then you
be the judge.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
But I know this much, I don't need to be
an expert on the war in Ukraine to recognize the
fact that Russia did attack them. You could talk about
the history, the role of the United States played in it.
You know, you could talk about that all day long.
I got my notes on that stuff. We can get
(44:35):
into that another day. In the end, Russia elected to
attack Ukraine. And because Russia elected to do that, you
can't get around that. You can't be talking about Russia
like they're the friendly folds that they didn't instigate this war.
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Mark Levin was absolutely right. I was a fan of
his show to begin with, but I appreciated him even
more today because when you take the kind of stance
that he has taken against Donald Trump, it shows that
you're trustworthy.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
I knew that before him before, but I know it
even more now.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Let's see if the rest follows. Okay, somebody farting passing
gas is farting and passing gas.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
It's not perfume.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
It's nice to see somebody on the right willing to
call it like that.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
Okay, right is right? Wrong is wrong?
Speaker 1 (45:45):
Donald Trump and going after Selensky. Nah, you ain't got
any business doing that. You don't want to give more money.
Don't give you more money, But you ain't got to
talk about him like that, like he's the villain and
all of this. That's going a bit too far last it.
I'm at the show I want to get into. I
want to I brought this up earlier, and it's involved
(46:06):
with Malcolm X, the Late Great Malcolm X. Today, February
twenty first marks the sixtieth anniversary of the death of
the activistiness of a rights leader who was assassinated at
the Auderbonn Ballroom in Harlem, New York in nineteen sixty five.
Malcolm was a vocal advocate for black empowerment and the
promotion of Islam within the African American community, of course,
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and beyond. While a controversial figure to some accused of
preaching violence, Malcolm X is also a widely celebrated figure
of many Americans for his pursuit of racial justice. As
I think about Malcolm X and what he stood for,
I find myself wondering what he would think.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
About today's culture, particularly.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
When it comes to the modern athlete. But before I
get into that, let me say this. Malcolm X was
not a man that preached violence. Were gonna put that
to bed right now. He preached an io and I.
He preached the importance of one self protection. He preached
the importance of not turning to turn in the other
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cheek when somebody punches you, or slaps you, or kicks
you or beats you. Last time I checked that self defense.
That's not preaching violence. He certainly didn't propose instigating it
and igniting it. He talked about defending oneself and not
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letting people abuse you and just standing by idly and
doing nothing.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
So let's get that out the way first.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Secondly, I thought it was important to bring this subject
up today because.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
We saw the Four Nations hockey tournament.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
Come to his conclusion last night in Boston, Massachusetts, where
Canada beat the United States three too after Donald Trump
gave a call to the Team USA by the way,
you know, encouraging them the victory before they lost.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
But that's a different subject for another day. Not his fault.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
But it happened and after we saw that match, and
even when we saw it Saturday, and we saw United
States being booled while the United States national anthem was
being sung, and we saw the Canadians come at us
the way that they did. We beat them Saturday, they
beat us last night. We have to remember.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
What instigated that, what started that to some.
Speaker 1 (48:24):
Degree, Donald Trump talking about making Canada the fifty first state.
Obviously they don't take condy to that, okay. And Trudeau
Trudell rather president of Canada, he came, you know, he
spoke about that as well in the aftermath.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
Of Canada's victory.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
It's important to recognize that emanating off of that subject.
At the same time that hockey had elevated its profile
exponentially because everybody was watching. Because of the friction and
attention that existed between Team USA and Canada, it was
an opportunity to also lament what we had witnessed for
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NBA All Star Weekend in San Francisco this past Sunday.
We saw a new format institute. We saw players, new
rules implemented because players hadn't been given effort and they
were walking around like they didn't care. Now, what would
that have to do with the assassination of Malcolm X.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
Directly? Absolutely nothing. Indirectly.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
Everything you see Malcolm Max was about black empowerment. He
was also about black economic empowerment. He wanted us he
wanted equal opportunities and civil rights for us as a
nation of people. He also wanted us to maximize those
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opportunities and achieve all we could process of that, uplift
one another along the way, become a coalition, not be
a collection of individual parts, but come together as one
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and understand the importance of being together and how much
that would serve to empower us in whatever agendas and
missions we had moving forward. We just sat here and
we talked about Donald Trump, and we talked about Donald
Trump talking about the president of Ukraine. We didn't talk
(50:34):
about Donald Trump's position and purging parts of the federal government,
including DEI. We didn't talk about some of the things
black folks fair. As my buddy Roland Martin pointed out
when he said that there's a concerted effort to scale
back every bit of progress we made since civil rights
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legislation came into play in nineteen sixty four.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
We haven't talked about that.
Speaker 1 (51:03):
You know what else we wouldn't have to if we
were together more, but would not. And that's why I
thought that on a day like today, where we're acknowledging
the sixty year anniversary of the assassination of Malcolm Xwell,
was to remind people of exactly who he was and
what he would have hoped for. Yes, Malcolm x evolved, Yes,
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as he evolved, he thought a little bit differently, and
he was more embracing of a mosaic society as opposed
to just a black one. All of those things are true,
But he also preached about the importance of togetherness. And
I think about so many things that professional athletes have
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and the wealth they've been able to accumulate, to accumulate,
the generational wealth that some have been able to acquire,
and how there's so many many instances where we're nothing
more than individual parts. I wonder, for example, when the
George Floyd murders took place, the George Floyd murder in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
Right around the time of COVID.
Speaker 1 (52:18):
I wonder what would have happened instead of folks talking
about taking the knee and locking arms with one another.
I wonder what would have happened if the athletes themselves
have pulled their resources and used that money to funnel
the lobbyists on Capitol Hill to push their agendas to
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the politicians who are legislating laws in our land. Could
you imagine what that would have done. Think about some
of the things that we're questioning right now. Think about
some of the things that are going on in our society.
Think about the fear that's permitting through our nation, where
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you talk about people losing their rights, wondering what's going
to happen to them. Think about entitlement programs is going
to evaporate before our very honest think about all those things.
Would we have to worry about it as much if
folks had come together and pulled their resources to make
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sure to provide real influence so real things could get done.
When I think about Malcolm X, just like when I
think about doctor Martin Luther King Jr. I think of that,
and on a daylight today, not only do I think
Malcolm X on the sixtieth anniversary of his assassination, I
also think about doctor Martin Luther King Jr. And what
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the late great Harry Belafonte once said that Doctor Martin
Luther King said to him in his waning days. As
matter of fact, it might have been the day he
was assassinated. He said, I fear that I've led our
people into a burning house preaching about the importance of
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desegregation and all that could emanate from it. He wondered
whether or not he truly had led us into a
burning house, that what he had wished for, that what
we would ultimately capture, would lead to our fragmentation instead
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of our togetherness. I don't know if that's what happened.
More qualified minds than me can speculate about that or
even edify you with their information. What I can say
is that on a daylight today, it is appropriate to
at least think about that, to least ask yourself that question,
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how together are we?
Speaker 2 (54:56):
How together should we be? And if indeed we.
Speaker 1 (55:00):
Ever came together, how much beneficial would it be for
all of us, not just the black community. But America
as a whole. It's just a thought that I thought
I could leave y'all with for the weekend. I hope
you appreciate where I'm coming from, and I thank you
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for listening. Have a wonderful weekend. God bless you all,
and I'll talk to y'all on Monday. Until then, Peace
of love, everybody.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
I'm out.
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