January 15, 2025 • 55 mins
Stephen A. Smith is a New York Times Bestselling Author, Executive Producer, host of ESPN's First Take, and co-host of NBA Countdown.
Stephen A. discusses rapper Drake’s defamation lawsuit against Universal Music Group over Kendrick Lamar’s hit song, “Not Like Us.” Three-time NFL Super Bowl-winning tight end Travis Kelce joins Stephen A. for a far-ranging interview about a Kansas City Chiefs three-peat, retiring from the game, the greatness of quarterback Patrick Mahomes, former teammate Tyreek Hill, and Chiefs head coach Andy Reid. They also discuss his romance with popstar Taylor Swift and New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce podcast.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Drake making news again to let y'all know, y'all he
don't like not like us. That's number one. Number two
Travis Kelsey. He's a bad brother for a multitude of reasons.
It could be football, it could be Taylor Swift. You
don't know what he's gonna say, but you'll find out
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because he's here. Next on The stephen A. Smith Show.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Holla, what's up? Everybody?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Welcome to the Ladies edition of The stephen A. Smith Show.
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member of the Steven A. Smith Show family. We got
a lot to get into today because I got my mayor,
Travis Kelsey wait and okay, Travis Kelce wait, and I
got to talk to my brother from another mother, all right,
who obviously is gearing towards threepeating as a Super Bowl champion.
Looking forward to talking to him. I think you'll be
very interested in that conversation he and I are about
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to have, make no mistake about it. But before we
do any of that, let's get started with some news
out of the entertainment industry. And it's something that we've
touched on before. Y'all Drake you know that, brother, He's
going ahead and filed a lawsuit against his own record company,
Universal Music Group for Kendrick Lamar's not Like Us. Attorneys
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for Drake say the song, which is aimed at the
Canadian rapper, is an example of valuing quote corporate greed
over the safety and well being of its artists end quote.
Kendrick released Not Like Us last summer after a series
of disc tracks exchanged between the two artists in the spring.
On the song, Lamar calls Drake a pedophile and accuses
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him of appropriating black culture. Again. Both artists are under
Universal Music Group Umbrella. Here's a portion of the claims
in the suit, written by Drake's attorney. They claim UMG
quote approved, published, and launched a campaign to create a
viral hit out of a rap track that was intended
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to convey the specific, unmistakable and false factual allegation that
Drake is a criminal pedophile and to suggest that the
public should resort to vigilante justice in response end quote.
Ladies and gentlemen, I'm torn, and i want to be
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very very sensitive to this subject because I'm a product
of the hip hop genre and what have you. I
grew up in Hollis, Queens, New York City, listening to
run DMC. They're from Hollis. Jam Master J, the late
jam Master J. God Rest his soul was great friends
with my late brother Bezu god Rest his soul LL
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WHOJ grew up five minutes down the block on Farmers Boulevard.
You know the joh Rules, the fitty sense of the world,
and others from Queens. So for me, when I bring
up hip hop culture, my initial response, which hasn't changed
that much by the way, is go handle your business
in that studio. See, Drake got sensitive with a lot
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of people when he went after DeMar Deroz and talking
about you know what. You know he would not go
for his jersey being hung in the rafters. You know
when he was put off by Lebron James dancing to
Drake's music. And you know when DeMar Derozen and Russell
Westbrook and these brothers were on stage while Kendrick Lamar
was performing. Not like us. They all from Compton, not Lebron,
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but they from La That's not a crime. So in
that regard, I thought Drake was tripping. I was up
the mindset like YO. Handle it in the studio. He
got today, that don't mean he gonna get you next week.
And if he got you, he got you. But if
you got sent better something, the Eclipse not like us.
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Do that because Drake, you that great, you that special?
What's the problem? Get in the studio and handle it
like that. You don't handle it in the courtroom. That's
not how you address contention in the hip hop industry
when it comes to actual records being made. That's not
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what you do. And I stand on that. I firmly
believe that Drake should do one or two things. Stand
down and say he got me, or stand up by
going in the studio and making another distrack of your
own and making sure it Eclipse is not like us,
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what are the other I firmly believe that I'm not
backing down or bound down from that. But I'm gonna
tell y'all where Drake hits me and my sensitive side.
Dare I say comes into play when you have to
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move your child and the mother out of elementary school,
when he's being threatened in school, when the mother and
the child have to move out of Toronto. According to
the reports, that's what it says for safety reasons. When
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you've been accused and people think there's validity not just
you know, lyrical dissection dissection, but literally they're attaching legitimacy
to allegations and accusations of you being a pedophile. Then
it gets a little dicey, tou jug I mean Universal
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Music Group. Both of them are under that umbrella. I'm
not gonna look at Universal Music Group and say what
it was a crime for them trying to profit off
of you? Hell yeah. They trying to profit off for
you in any way they can, whether it's through your
music or somebody else's music about you. The record company.
Of course, that's what they're gonna do. Cost that's what
they're gonna do. One could argue they should be a
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bit sensitive to one of their own artists, but in
their mind, did it compromise your bottom line? They don't
think so. Did it compromise Kendrick Lamar's bottom line since
he's under their umbrella as well? Damn sure didn't it?
Big up, Tim, it's making him a boat load of money.
That means it's gonna make them a boatload of money.
And their attitude is they probably were expecting you to
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come back with even more material to go out him
with and they could make money off of both of y'all.
That's what they probably were thinking. That ain't what happened,
because that's not what happened. And when you consider the
level of sensitivity that's been brought to the equation, because again,
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he was basically accused of being a pedophile appropriate black coach.
I don't want to hear all of that. That's a
different subject for another day. But being called a pedophile, yeah,
he's a dad in this universe. Is your own music,
is your own music company that's promoting this stuff? Okay,
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all right? I understand I'm not as dog a as
giinst it as I once was, even though I still
wouldn't do it. I understand where Drake's coming from. I
just think that ultimately he's defeating the purpose because in
the end, you're a hip hop artist who's gonna want
your music to be absorbed by the masses in the
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future because you're far from a finished product, and there's
gonna be an abundance of people out there that look
at this as a weak way to come at somebody
like Kendrick Lamar, who came at you the way that
he did. They want you to come back the same
way or bow down to the fact that you got shook.
That's how people are. I can see both sides of this.
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Before I could only see the one side that this
looked weak to be using the Lord to come after
an artist that took it to you in the studio.
But I get where you're coming from. Now I do
see it. I still wouldn't do it, but that's me
a lot of people I know. But I understand why
Drake could feel differently about this. I do. Coming up,
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he's a three times Super Bowl champion who is arguably
the greatest tight end in the history of the National
Football League. Travis Kelcey joins the show as the Chiefs
attempt to become the first team in NFL history to
three p and he may have something to say about
his love life as well. He's Taylor Swift Ride right,
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he might have something to say. He might not. I
don't know. I don't know. We're about to find out though.
Next right here, when the Stephen Nate Smith show back
for more in a minute, All right, everybody, listen up.
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I'm gonna go with more on this one. Next up,
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and I get that, And I don't think that Kansas
City has the most stout running game in the world,
So how the hell are gonna win this game. If
Patrick Mahomes ain't throwing the football effectively, I believe he will.
I believe he's rested, he's healthy. They're all ready to go.
I think Travis Kelsey's gonna have a big game as well.
And I think in the end, for Patrick Mahomes to
chuk up two hundred and fifty plus yards is not
a big ask. I think he's gonna do that in
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this game at Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas City. Next up,
we've got Washington Commander's quarterback Jade and Daniels more or
less than two hundred and thirty four and a half
passing yards. Have you seen his brother play? I'm going
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Jade and Daniels, that word more is apropos. This brother special.
He's a superstar in the making, make no mistake about it.
I'm gonna go with more on this. Finally, Detroit Lions
quarterback Jared Goff more or less than two hundred and
seventy and a half passing yards. I'm gonna go with
more on this as well, Ladies and Gentlemen's is the
number one offense in the NFL, a top two passing
attack in the NFL. They've got Laporter, they got James
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and Williams, they got a lot of cats. They got
the kid Gibbs running out of the backfield. Offensively speaking,
they got a lot of firepower in the Motor City.
Thirteen dudes on the defensive side of the ball on
injured reserve, they still blew out the Minnesota Vikans. Okay,
ran them out of the building. These brothers come to
bring it. And I think in a game like this, okay,
with Washington, Washington's gonna do some things right. Jaydon Daniel's
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gonna get off He's not gonna panic in a big moment.
And I think as a result of that, it's gonna
call for Detroit to be more than they expected to be.
And I think they're gonna ros to the occasion. And
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What's going on, Adam? How are you? You see my
picks up there? You see my NFL picks up there?
What are your thoughts? My man?
Speaker 3 (14:29):
What's up?
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Seven?
Speaker 5 (14:30):
I appreciate having me on man. My favorite pick you
got is that Jayden Daniels more. I mean, Jaden Daniels
is playing on a whole different level right now.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
You know.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
The thing that Jayden does is.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
When he can run the football the way he does
with his legs is it takes that extra defender out
of the box and then that commander's offense is putting
him in that second down and short, third down and
short situation, which you know, yeah, that's where quarterbacks can thrive, man,
because they got the threat of you can run the football.
The defense has to play the run and then Jaden's
able to take off with his legs or throw the
football down on the field. Man that Cliff Kingsbury Jaden
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Daniels combo is a match made in heaven right now?
Speaker 1 (15:05):
You have any issue with me going with more with CJ.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Stroud, No, I like it. I like it.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
I mean I The only one I'm a little nervous
about is the Patrick Mahomes play on More. I mean
the chief starters haven't played in three weeks now. Chief
starters have been on the day they listen, they haven't played.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Me a little rustier.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
They're gonna come out swinging on the first two three
drives of the game. And you know, if if he
doesn't play well in the first second quarter of this game,
that may be hard.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
To hit that number.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Uh that that that on the moral passing yards for him.
So but that's the only one that lets a little shaky.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Why why why wouldn't they, Adam, We've been off three weeks,
But they should come out swinging. They're gonna be spread, spry, healthy,
had enough time in the hot tub to thauna the
cold pledge and everything else in between. They're good to go.
They should to come out there with fresh legs. They
saw they ain't been beat up. They might be a
bit rusty, but they can work off that Russ instantly
looking to air it out. What didn't you say?
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (16:00):
But the thing is that passing game is all about timing, man,
and and you get three weeks off, you get three
weeks off. It may not click the way everyone thinks
it's going to in the first quarter of that game.
So I think Mahomes will play well, but taking more
on his passing yards in the in the first time
he's playing in a few weeks.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
I'm a little shaky on that one.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Overall.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
I like the picks though.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Let me ask you this for I let you before
I move on from list of day who you got
one in these games?
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Man?
Speaker 5 (16:25):
I like I got the Eagles winning. Okay, I like
at the end of the day, man, the the way
Jane and Daniels is playing. I like the Commanders to win.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Uh. The way the Commander is to beat Detroit.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Yes, I like I like the command beat Detroit.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
And it all to me.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
It all to me comes down to how well the
Commanders have been playing on offense. And then for Detroit
and Jared Goff. Listen, it's been it's been a Cinderella
story for a long time.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Everyone.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Everyone's riding the Lions wave right now. Everyone's talking about
how great they are. All the love around Dan Campbell.
It's too much for me, man, it's too much. It's
time that we get a big upset in one of
these games, and it's gonna be the Commanders.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Well how big of an upset would be if you
got thirteen to fifteen dudes on injured reserve. But that's
a subject for another day. Let me switch to college
football because I can't believe that Notre Dame is going
to be playing for the national championship. But give Marcus
Freeman all the credit in the world for doing what
he has done. You see my picks up there, Riley Leonard,
Will Howard just see you know, love there as well
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of course, Traveon Henderson. I mean, any issues with the
picks that I picked right there for you?
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Now? I like it.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
I mean, first, Will Howard, how about the free swear
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No one's doing it like Prize Picks right now, that's
a free bet. I mean, that's the thing that's a
little bit shaky. A little bit shaky is just the
Riley Leonard passing yards. You know how does Notre Dame
throw the football against a Ohio State secondary that's been
playing really well and Riley Leonard. Here's the matchup I'm
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watching Riley Leonard when he's playing against the blitz is
one of the best in the country. Riley Leonard against
drop back when a team can win when the defense
drops seven in the coverage only rushes four is one
of the worst in the country. He's bad when teams
aren't blitzing. Um, that's true because he's not comfortable in
the pocket like that. So Ohio State now doesn't blitz
that much. So it's gonna put Riley Leonard in a
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position where he's gonna have to try to win the
game with his arm. If I'm Notre Dame, I'm getting
Ryley Leonard out of that pocket. Let him create with
his legs, let him make some things happen on the perimeter.
I'm a little bit nervous about how well Ryley Leonard
can really complete passes in this game. I think that'll
be the struggle, and it's why I have Ohio State
winning the game.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
How do you feel about Ohio State's Notre Dame rather
its defense to gets Ohio State's offense. I mean, with
the weapons that them brothers had, it's Smith and Nigmuka
and Henderson and nose boys, how is Notre Dame gonna
stop them?
Speaker 5 (18:49):
For Notre Dame, the key is gonna come down to
tackling in space. Listen, Notre Dame plays Cover one. I mean,
you know, man demand coverage, just cat coverage, right, you
cover that cat and that's who you got. They play
that Cover one one high safety and Ohio State doesn't
face the ton of Cover one because they got those
freak receivers Jerry Mina Smith, I'm Mecha booke A Carnel Tate.
So that matchup against these Ohio State receivers will be
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the key to the game. If you want to play
man covers though, for Notre Dame, you better be great
at tackling the guy who has the ball. That's what
it all comes down to. Can Notre Dame tackle in space?
If Ohio State has big plays, it's gonna be ben
if Notre Dame missed some tackles.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Not because Notre Dame was out of position.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
But Adam, I'm asking you Ken they can they tackle
in space?
Speaker 5 (19:31):
Yeah, I think they will. I have this game being
very close. I think Notre Dame keeps it tight. I
think they they're able to stop some of Ohio State's
run game. Listen, Ohio States offense wasn't even that good
against Texas. They had fourteen points and then he add
on a ninety yard defensive touchdown and he add on
a seventy five yard screenplay before the half.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
That was kind of a flute play.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
This Ohio State offense wasn't clicking real well against against Texas.
I think Notre Dame will be able to slow them down,
and I think it's a really tight, back and forth
ball game. I have Ohio State winning probably twenty four twenty,
but Notre Dame keeps this one close. The key to
Ohio State is gonna be their star receiver Jeremiah smith Man.
He's gonna have to have a big day as an
offensive coordinator, Chip Kelly, You're judge in these games by
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how well your best player plays. Jeremy smith is the
best player on the field. He needs to have a
big afternoon.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
See for me, Adam I'm gonna let you go, but
I want to go by saying this. I think if
it's close, it's Notre Dame. I think Ohio State. I
got Ohio State winning the national championship, but I got
them winning comfortably, pulling away in the fourth quarter. I'm
just of the mindset that the closer it is, the
more palms will get sweaty and backsides will get tight
because all the pressure will be on Ohio State because
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Notre Dame has absolutely positively nothing to lose. Nobody expected
them to be in this position. That's just where I'm
at with it. Adam. I appreciate man, you you you
coming on with this prospect segment. Thank you so much.
I appreciate the breakdown, my brother, Thank you. Appreciate that
me on all right, the one to know the Adam
Brenneman Prize Pick's partner. Man knows what he's talking about.
I hear him loud and clear, twenty four to twenty Damn.
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I'm scared now. I'm scared for a house state now,
I really am.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
Oh my goodness, I couldn't wait to have my next guess.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
My brother from another mother. It's been a wild baby.
It's been a while, but I mean we're talking about
a future Hall of Famer at the tight end spot,
one of the greatest who've ever played the game, the
one and only Travis Kelsey of the rating, two time
defending Super Bowl champion Kisa City Chiefs. What's up a
big time? Are you doing? Man?
Speaker 7 (21:26):
Man, It's so good to be on here with this.
It's been too long, Man, it's been too long. Mission
big guys.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I mean, I miss you too. I'm just saying, I mean, damn,
how times have changed. I mean, the brother got the
new Heights podcast, God damned near three million subscribers, about
to win another Super I mean, every way I turn around,
I'm like, he's living a good life. How is life
treating Travis Kelce these days? Man?
Speaker 7 (21:48):
Man, I can't complain about a single thing. I wouldn't
if I could, But I just I'm enjoying playing football
right now at the highest level. You know, we're back
at it. Punch started taking into the dance and we're
rocking and rolling.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Baby.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
You know what, I applaored your response because I thought
the response that you gave to people that were acting
as if y'all were running from or avoiding playing it
wishing that you couldn't played it. But the Cincinnati Biggles,
I'm like, excuse me, Yeah, he should have cursed the
entire football world out for saying such a thing. Are
you shocked at even after all the success that you
guys have had, that you have people still chirping about
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y'all along the lines of something like that.
Speaker 7 (22:29):
You know, you would think that Andy Reid has gotten
the respect from the rest of the league that every
single time he's he's on the football field, he's playing
to win the game.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
You know.
Speaker 7 (22:37):
Obviously we have bigger fish to fry, and at that point,
you know, getting healthy and ready for this this final
stretch was the biggest thing. But Coach Reid, anytime he's there,
he's making sure he's motivating and challenging guys to be
at the best and go out there and play a
you know, play a game to win it. And so
I think, you know, everybody's gonna chirp and say what
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they want, but I know the integrity of the team
here and we were going out there to win that game.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Well, listen, my point is, I certain would not accuse
y'all to losing on purpose or whatever, but I was discussed.
I said, five first down to the whole damn game.
I'm my good lord, have mercy. I mean, I expected
better than that for the third year, for crying out loud,
but it is what it is. At at the end
of the day, y'all are raining two time defending Super
Bowl champions. Do you believe y'all have a better chance
of winning this year than you did last year or
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even the year before, you.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
Know, setting ourselves up with the with the one seed,
having having everybody have to come through Arrowhead. I think
this year it was such a different It was such
a different team, such a different field.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
We were barely winning football games at the end of
the game.
Speaker 7 (23:39):
So there is always that that feeling of we gotta
be better, we gotta be better, we gotta be better.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
And right now we're playing our best.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
Football man, and I'm definitely feeling confident, confident heck that
this team can make a run at it.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Confidence there's no reason it shouldn't be there, Travis. But
I got to ask this question. When you consider the
fact that y'all have home field advantage and the road
to the Super Bowl has to come through Arrowhead Stadium,
I know that's a plus. But one could easily juxtapose
that to saying there's a bit more pressure because last year,
after beating Miami, they had no chance against y'all, whether
the minute the mediaologist said it was gonna be the
freezer type of I knew Miami was done. They had
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no chance. Okay, But then after that, you go up
against Buffalo in Buffalo, you beat them. You go to
the AFC Championship game against Baltimore, and Baltimore you beat them.
So looking at that, could one make the argument that
there's even more pressure on y'all now to be the
first three peat Super Bowl champions in NFL history. But
you got home field advantage, or if you could win
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on the road last year, why wouldn't you be able
to win at home this year?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
You know, I don't think anybody challenges me more than me.
Speaker 7 (24:40):
You know, I put the expectations on myself and this
team more than anybody could put it on put it
on us.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
And that being said, you know, like you.
Speaker 7 (24:48):
Were saying that I've won in someone else's stadium, and
I've won them in my stadium, I've also lost in
my stadium. So handling this situation the right way playing,
playing with the momentum of the not letting the you know,
the game get too big, and and uh and and
you know, I think the biggest thing is when you
have home field advantage, you gotta set the tone early.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
You got to set the tone early.
Speaker 7 (25:10):
Come out hot and and let the crowd be a
part of it, give them something to get riled up
for and and cheer for, and let the other team
feel like they're in a hostile environment. But you know,
it's uh, it's it's all mentality, man, it's all mentality.
And when we're doing out on the field, we love
Arrowhead and how crazy it gets, but we know we
got to handle business on the field.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
And by the way, I got to throw myself on
the sword. Let America know damn it. I mean you
my brother from another mother. But I've lied to you
for years. I've been telling you I'm gonna get the
Arrowhead Stadium and I haven't done it yet. So I
come on, man, that's up.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Come on me.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
It saw on me. I got to get the freezing
ass Arrowhead Stadium. But let me let me ask you this.
And I say this, half half you know, playing halfway playing, well,
you're gonna stop lying to the American public and telling
them you thinking about retirement. I know you thirty five
years of age, you just completed your twelve season, but
damn ninety seven catches, eight hundred and two three receiving y'ards. Okay,
I'm looking at you this year. Andy Reid, ain't going nowhere.
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Patrick Mahomes, damn sure, ain't going nowhere. The Arrowhead Faithful
ain't going anywhere. What what you're doing talking about? You
might you might contemplate with time, and.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
For I'm it changes every single day. Man. I love
everything that I'm doing in this building.
Speaker 7 (26:20):
But at the end of the day, you know, I'm
not having that that extreme success on the field as
I as I have individually.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Man, But I'm excited.
Speaker 7 (26:29):
I'm excited for these next couple of games to play
up in Arrowhead, to finish this season off, and I'll
reevaluate it like I always do, and I'll probably tell
myself how much I love this thing, and I'll come
back next year. But it's just it's something that you
have to you have to keep in the perspective, man.
And and I never want to get to the point
where I'm not helping this team win, or I'm hurting
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this team more than I'm helping this team. So as
long as I'm coming out here playing good football and
the joint coming into the building every day with my guys,
you'll see me in a Chiefs uniform.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Let me remind you of some stats. I just want
to throw this out at you. Last year you had
ninety three receptions. This year you had ninety seven. Now
you had about nine hundred and eighty four receiving yards
this year is and the eight figures, I get that part.
They're the playoffs to Rob Travis and you had thirty
two receptions with three hundred and fifty five yards. Okay,
(27:20):
I mean I don't see the kind of drop off
that you're alluding to educate football lovers out there about
what it is that you think you might be missing
now compared to what you may have had last year
and years prior that has you contemplating stuff on a
day to day basis.
Speaker 7 (27:37):
Well, the biggest thing is is some of the most
fun you ever have in this game is having the
ball in your hands. And that being said, making guys
miss was something I always prided myself on and really
like that was the staple. You know, I made the
play more than what he was supposed to get. So
if I got a deep cross of eighteen yards, I'm
not just catching the ball and getting tackled. I'm turning
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that eighteen yard gain into twenty thirty forty plus yard game.
And over the past years, being able to make guys
miss just is it's got a little bit tougher, and
whether or not they just know my moves and I
gotta switch it up, or I gotta, you know, breakthrough
tackles or find another way to trick them so I
can make a miss. But that's the biggest thing is
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is being able to make guys missing space and getting
those extra yards that aren't necessarily in the scheme of
the play.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
You're confiding in me about it, so it's safe to
assume it's a conversation you've had with Andy Reid, it's
a conversation you've had with Patrick Mahomes. What have they
told you about what they see from you out on
the field.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
You know, I haven't really talked to anybody about this.
Speaker 7 (28:39):
You know, I think I'm still enjoying playing the game,
and when I'm in the building, I'm working to get
better and working to get you know, those that extra
you know, strength of that extra quickness to be able
to make guys miss It's it's a NonStop like staircase
of success here and weekend week out. Coach Read has
challenged us, our tight end room has challenged me to
to do more of that throughout the season, get more
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than what we're just getting on the catch.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
And it's a focus.
Speaker 7 (29:06):
It's a focus that is uh that's been there since
the since the since I've got here in Kansas City.
And you know, I'm I'm not contemplating uh it too much,
but at the same time, I'm always trying to be
better than I am right now.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Well, I got I got a personal complaint from my
brother from another mother. I got a personal complate right here,
and I'm gonna tell you what it is. Travis, you
know when you used to go in the in zone,
I mean, my brother got flavor. You understand, all white
dudes don't have this kind of flavor that brother has.
The Travis Kelsey and the dances that you will come
up with in the end zone. I mean that stuff
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was epic. I think you kind of doll that back
a little bit and dare I say you got a
little bit conservative. Might be a spike here, you might
slap a high five. I don't see the flavor, the celebrations,
the dance moves that you used to rock anymore. I
understand you ain't catching a whole bunch of touchdowns. I
get that point. You got other people to do that
for you. But you're still getting the end zone from
time time, and I know you go do it in
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a What's up with that? What happened to that flavor?
Speaker 6 (30:02):
Bro?
Speaker 3 (30:02):
I mean what I think you just called called me out?
Speaker 7 (30:05):
Man.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
I think I need to get back to it. I
think I need to get back to it.
Speaker 7 (30:08):
Matter of fact, the next one I get in there,
I'll make sure I get jiggy for you.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Man.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
It's definitely a part of just loving the game. Man,
join the game and.
Speaker 7 (30:17):
Having the showmanship to play with the crowd and play
with the teammates, and and the excitement after you score
a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
So I think you just you know what, you might
get me back into my old.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Way, right, get back in your own way. That way,
you're gonna stay a few more years in Kansas City.
You don't need to go nowhere. We listen, We don't need,
we don't need to be a Tyreek kill. I know
that's your former teammate, and you love him, and I
got in love for Tyree Hill. I think he's one.
I love him to death because I think he's elite.
I personally believe the biggest mistake. How do you leave
Patrick Mahomes? How do you leave Patrick mahole that you
want to get the money. But if you're go leave
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and you're gonna get the money, Travis, you can't go
out and say your next quarterback is gonna be comparable
to Patrick Mahomes. Could you at least give me that?
Could you at least give me that, Travis, at least that.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
You know what?
Speaker 7 (30:59):
You know, loved the Cheetah and he was he was
he was being a good teammates what he was being,
so I respect saying it. And he was being hopeful
and and and Tua came out and had an unbelievable
year last year. Obviously he had the concussions and everything,
but there's nobody like Patrick Mahomes and everybody knows that.
But he was just being a good teammate, trying to
shout out his new QB. We missed the guy and
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uh and I still love him to death. Man, the
Cheetah will forever be one of the most explosive players
that have ever played this game.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
And uh and and and a true brother to me. Man.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Well, listen, man, let me let me get a little
personal with you right here, because you and I have
known each other for years. I got a lot of
love for you. And you know me, I don't ask
a bunch of questions. I ain't gonna ask one. I
ain't gonna ask a bunch of questions now. But we're
gonna get a little personal here for a second. Ruh,
how's life my brother, Amy Travis Kelsey? Off the football field?
You you you living a little bit better than most.
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I mean, could you explain?
Speaker 7 (31:51):
And I'm enjoying all aspects a lot that man.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
You are happy and I couldn't be happier to have that.
Speaker 7 (32:00):
You know, that confidence and that comfort off the field
and all the support I could ever ask for in
the stadium.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Man, Yo, Travis, I got a confession to make, bro.
What's all I never really listened to her music before
I went to her concert, Yo, Travis. It's the greatest
comfort i'ven't been through my life.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
It's off the change.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
I couldn't believe it. It's the greatest concert I ever
been to in my life. I mean, and my daughter's
hood with me because they got me to take ten
of their friends. And that was two thousand Apartmas twenty
thousand dollars on that damn concert, twent thousand dollars. By
the way, I ain't got your money. I ain't got
your money, Travis, I ain't got damn sore. I don't
have her money. I can't, I couldn't. I said, just
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better be worth it, and I gotta confess it was
so damn good. I went back twice. Steven Nickson, Oh yeah,
I went twice. I went to two tailors Swift concerts,
bro to Tailor show.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
She had you singing along the second time.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
You stand there and did and ain't that up? Ain't
that's something? With that being said, when you look at
your life right now, has that added to your football
talent and your estimation or has it been I'm gonna
compare it to a fighter, whereas you starving, you struggling,
you going out there, you hardcore because you got to
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go and get it, and then all of a sudden
you hit the jackpot with everything that you're doing, super
Bowl championships, you know, herd in your life and what
have you. It's the equivalent of waking up in silk
for jump is it trying to go in that box
and ring and get it done? Where would you describe
your mentality to be at this particular moment in time
knowing how well everything is going for you or both
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personally and professionally.
Speaker 7 (33:41):
Well, I think personally, you know, that's the beauty of
being in a very strong relationship, is that you get
that support to be able to come in and focus
on your craft, focus on being the best version of you.
You know, that's why I wanted to be at the concert,
supporting her and being there for her, making sure she
feels comfortable and supported and everything she's doing in life.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
And you know, I think, Uh, I'm.
Speaker 7 (34:03):
As focused as I've ever been on my job and
being the best player that I could possibly be a weekend,
week out for this team. And you know it's because
I'm uh, I don't have to worry about things in
the off the field.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
There were people that looked at you at the beginning
of the season and felt like you were in in
peak condition and they didn't blame.
Speaker 6 (34:22):
Her, but they were saying you being so supportive.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Of her and traveling so much that took away from you.
How did you feel when you were hearing that kind
of noise about yourself at that time?
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Well, the first thing is you have to you have
to be true to yourself.
Speaker 7 (34:37):
You know, people are saying things. You got to be
able to reflect and look at yourself and see, you know,
why are they saying these things? And I was still
playing high did I was still playing at a high level,
you know, knowing all that has been said, we were
winning football games, which is all I ever care about.
And on top of that, this building knew how hard
I worked and how much focus I have on football
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throughout the year.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
So it's just what's true, what's real?
Speaker 7 (35:04):
And how how do we become better knowing that, you know,
what I'm putting out on the field may not have
been my best or how do I keep getting better
throughout knowing that the roles have changed a little bit.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
What kind of conversations did you have with your brother
Jason about such subjects. This is a guy that's a champion,
obviously playing in the NFL for as long as he did,
damn it. I don't even remember him missing a game
in thirteen years for crying out loud. And by the way,
I love your brother on ESPN. He's a welcome teammate.
He's a really good he's a really good guy. I
love talking to him whenever I get the opportunity to
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do so. But what kind of conversations were you having
with him about how you were looking or how you
were feeling at that particular moment in time, and how
you were feeling about ultimately continuing your playing career.
Speaker 7 (35:49):
You know, I've been so fortunate to have Jason always
two steps ahead of me. It's two years older than me.
We followed each other to Cincinnati Niversity of Cincinnati, we
followed each other to be under a coach Andy Reider,
get drafted by coach Reid. And I've seen how it's
done the right way, you know, both from on the
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field and off the field. I think my brother is
a great model of success, you know, in the city
of Philadelphia, just as much as he is at the
Link And and I love him for it. And I
don't necessarily even have to have a lot of questions
for him, but just have a talk about life with him,
and and I can get a lot out of that.
Out of that, I think my brother, My brother's biggest
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thing is, you know, when you come into the building,
do you still feel you know, the energy, do you
still feel the excitement and uh? And do you still
feel like you can do it at a high level
weekend week out, knowing the seasons are only getting longer
with the man in the seventeenth game and another playoff
seat or another playoff team into the playoffs. So it's
just hearing him talk about how the end of his
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career came about and how he how tough of a
decision it was for him. I can get all all
the you know, I can get sent in the right
direction by just being here.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
I tell you this much. Man, I wish he had
a retired because I think the Philadelphia Eagles would even
be better off if he was still there. And then
we learned after he departed that that was one of
the reasons Jalen Hurts was struggling because he was deferring
the Jason and you know, with a lot of stuff
that was going on, I'm like, well, damn, how come
you didn't beg him to stay? You should have begged
them to stay in additional year or two. That's where
I'm going with that. But I tell you this too
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as well. When I think about your brother and your
new Heights podcast, I want you to talk about how
that came about, how that unfold. You guys got what
a two point five million subscribers with crying a line
and deserve it, by the way, Congrata, it's one that
I got. It's one than I got for the moment,
damn it all right, and you deserve it for the moment.
You know I'm coming, you know I'm always coming. But
here's the but here's the deal. How did that come about?
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And how do you feel about you two doing that?
And what kind of impact y'all are having, not just
in football but beyond.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (38:00):
Yeah, And you know, I think that's been the goal, uh,
for a lot of football players in this league, is
to set yourself up because we know this this game,
it isn't forever, and you got to be able to
set yourself for what happens after football. And me and Jason,
we uh to be honest, we just we missed each other.
We hadn't had those conversations every single week, and now
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we have two hours set aside every single week to.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Talk football, catch up on things, and just beat brothers.
Speaker 7 (38:27):
And uh, you know you got that aspect of wanting
to set yourself after, set yourself up after football. And
then everybody always said before New Heights, me and Jason
worked on two completely different sides of the spectrum. You know,
he's a he still wears flip flops in the snow
and I'd like to you know, bundle up and and
and look fresh and uh and you know, have fun
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with the things that I wear, where Jason is just
about a neanderthal in that world.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (38:53):
And they they just never saw the similarities until you
get us into the same room and hear us talk
at like a lunch table, dinner table. You don't really
realize how close we are as brothers. Knowing that we're
only two years of pardon, I've been following him throughout
my entire life, man, So I wanted to show showcase
that and let people know, you know, how strong of
a bond and how much we support each other and
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what a true brotherhood looks like.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Well, now that you've done that, what do you too
like talking about most outside of football? I'm talking about
outside of football on the podcast, the kind of information
or the kind of subject matter you want to disseminate
to the public. What do you enjoy tackling most?
Speaker 7 (39:32):
You know what the most fun I have is UH
is talking about my childhood, my love for sports, and
what really sparked me to get into the profession that
I am that I have today. And I think having
ex players come on and having the stars of my
childhood and and and UH and Jason's childhood come on
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and talk about what made.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Them great and just the stories of you know, what
they went through.
Speaker 7 (39:59):
I think that's the fun part is being able to
just talk to Jason about our childhood and tell the
fun stories about being in the Kelsey household as well
as you know, the things that we love to do
as kids and now as adults.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Are you prepared and as Jason prepared for the fact
that as y'all continue to grow and shine, because the
podcast is not going away, as your audience grows, I
know you're going to want to continue to do it.
With that being said, you're going to have to find
yourself being a bit critical of folks out there when
they ain't getting the job done, when they mess up
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and you as a three time super Bowl champion, him
as a champion. When you think about what y'all are
bringing to the table in that regard, are y'all prepared
to have to deal with.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
All of that?
Speaker 7 (40:44):
And you know what, I think that's what makes guys
like yourself so good is the ability to be true.
And I think You've always been true to me in
my career. You've called me out on numerous times, and
I've always accepted that, and I've always, you know, reevaluated
what I've been doing because you do. You always keep
it real and you always keep it honest. And that's
why I love listening to you, big dogwas. I think
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I think that is a talent in itself. I meet personally.
I like to shine light on everybody and everything. I
don't really like to take too many shots of people
unless I've been truly disrespected.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
So it is, it is.
Speaker 7 (41:18):
It has been a bit of a challenge being able
to call things out and be confident and try and
be critical without chopping somebody down.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
But it's definitely something that that I'm working off for
shore I try.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
I try to make sure I don't get personal and
that a guy knows that when I'm being critical of you,
I'm not rooting against you. I'm telling you you ain't
doing what you're supposed to be doing. Your ability, your
ability to do that. You get that. I get that,
Jason gets that. But you know as well as I do,
not just in the NFL, but in professional sports, there's
a lot of cats that don't get it and don't
embrace it that way. How do you deal with that?
Speaker 7 (41:53):
Well, what's real and what's not real? I was talking
about it earlier, about watching film and seeing, you know,
how how the success I've had in the past is
compared to the success I'm having now. And I think
it's the same in the media. You know, somebody's saying something.
What's warranting them for saying that?
Speaker 3 (42:10):
Why? What's the reasoning for it?
Speaker 7 (42:11):
You have to be confident in your abilities, but also
confident to just keep trying to find ways to better yourself,
better your team and uh and you always got to
separate reality from from what's not real. And what's real
for me is the building I walk into, the faces
that I go to work with, and uh, then the
people that I love at home, and you know that's
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what that's what you really gotta know, differentiate and be
comfortable in your own skin.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
Man, you can't get.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Yeah, appropriate question to ask with that Lombardy Trophy hanging
above your head right there.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
Y'alls on the shine to it.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
There you go, there you go. That ain't your office, though,
I mean, is that's your crib?
Speaker 4 (42:54):
I got you so.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
So here you are on the verge of possibly being
the first team and that NFL history to three P
as Super Bowl champions. It's one thing to compartmentalize and say,
we just hear we going for the chip. Obviously y'all
said it on stage after y'all beat San Francisco in
the Super Bowl last year. We going for a three
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P first team in order to pull it off? What
would that mean to y'all?
Speaker 3 (43:21):
Man?
Speaker 7 (43:21):
You know, I've always been trying to chase greatness my
entire life. I've been so fortunate to be able to
come here to Kansas City and have to fill the
shoes of a guy like Tony Gonzalez. And then, you know,
when when you start to have your own success, you
start to really feel the urge to keep to keep
being greater than what you've been in the past, and
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no team has ever done it three times in a row, man.
And I don't know why, but last year I felt
like I wanted it more than I had in previous
years because it was the Upper Echelona teams that had
gone back to back, you know, they were considered dynasty
teams that were considered teams that you know, took over
an entire decade of football and remember forever, and those
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teams being able to get it and done a third
time all fell short. And I see that as an
opportunity to be the greatest dynasty or the greatest you know,
team of the decade, however you.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
Want to call it.
Speaker 7 (44:18):
But I just have it in me to really want
that for the guys that I've gone to war with
in this building and have seen work so hard to
be able to get it to this point.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Man, Travis, let me throw this out at you, bro.
Travis Kelcey all time NFL rank as a tight end.
Receptions third behind Tony Gonzalez and Jason Whitten, receiving yards
third behind Tony Gonzalez and Jason Witten, touchdown catches fifth
all time. If you three pet is it possible that
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in a month's time.
Speaker 6 (44:56):
Travis Kelsey says, I did it three re peede it.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Look at my numbers. I'm done. My football career is over.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Man.
Speaker 7 (45:07):
You know I think, uh, I think, I'm I'm so
deep in chasing this one right now. I can't even
fathom what football would be like. Uh not in like
not playing football as a profession. Man, I still love
coming into the building every single day. Does it get hard, Yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
I'm not. I'm not doing it for the stats. I'm
doing it for the greatness.
Speaker 7 (45:30):
Uh the legacy that we've created here in Kansas City
with with Pat, with Chris Jones, with Coach Red, Coach Spags,
you name all the guys in the building. Man, it's
been It's been so much fun coming in the building
with these guys. So I can't fathom what it would
feel like just being able to say I'm I'm satisfied,
because I'm still hungry to go and get something right now.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
You know, I remember when Time Brady was winning Super Bowls.
He had a supermodel for a wife that wanted him
to retire. Uh is miss Swift? Is she encouraging you
to continue to play or to retire because it is
a violent sport and she don't want her.
Speaker 7 (46:06):
She's fully encouraging me to enjoy playing this game. And uh,
she loves coming to Arrowhead and coming to the games
and cheril for me. So I got all the support
in the world to keep chasing these dreams.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
Andy Reid the best coach ever, the.
Speaker 7 (46:21):
Greatest to ever do it, even with Belichick out. The
wins are there, the super Bowls are there. He's gone
every everywhere he's gone, he's won, and and he's done
it in a in a way that's that's so much
respected by everybody that plays for him.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
I don't know if you noticed. Andy Reid and I
go back to my Philadelphia days.
Speaker 3 (46:41):
I love that. Oh yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
Man. I'm gonna talk to him soon. But Andy Reid,
what makes him special? I know he knows what he's
doing as a football coach, but I'm talking about from
a personality standpoint. For him to be his age, to
be around as long as he is, and to be
so relatable to the modern day player while still having
structured just every coach can't pull that off. How does
he do it?
Speaker 3 (47:03):
Well?
Speaker 7 (47:03):
He's tough, and he shows his toughness every single day.
He shows his desire to be at his best every
single day. I'd laugh about it all the time. I
never see his truck leave this parking lot. Man, this
guy loves, loves being accountable and loves coming in and
being his best for this organization in this city. And
I just I think it's a unique blend of being
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able to be relatable to everybody. No matter how old
he gets and how young these players are getting in
the league, he always has the ability to relate to guys.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
And that's big in the football world because these days,
these days get long, and.
Speaker 7 (47:43):
You know, it's just it gets difficult coming in and
doing the same routines for twenty weeks out of the year.
So being able to relate to everybody, being able to
have that toughness to respect out of everybody, and on
top of that being true, he's always real. He'll tell
He'll tell you when you're slacking, no matter if you're
an a time Pro bowler or the rookie on the team,
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He'll tell you when you're slacking and when you need
to pick it up. And and honestly, because you relate
to him so well and he has so much toughness,
it typically just turns into a challenge for you. To
get better and uh, and I think he does that
better than anybody in the league, on top of just
being able to be creative and have fun, uh, you know,
making up these plays in the building and always putting
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his players in the best place to the best situations
to have success on the field.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
Two quick last questions before I'll let you go. Patrick
Mahomes three super Bowl titles in five years. If y'all
had an offensive line, that would have been four.
Speaker 7 (48:40):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
But at the end of the day, here's what it
comes down to. A lot of people look at him
and they say he's the best ever ever. Others look
at at Joe Montana four rings, Others look at a
Pat Tom Brady seven rings. The three peat will cement it, okay,
but without the three pat, you look at Patrick Mahomes
right now, based on the guys that I mentioned, he's
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the best on the planet.
Speaker 7 (49:02):
To you ever, best ever do it, the best ever
do it? And and to be honest, I think, you know,
obviously I'm a little biased. I think I've been on
the receiving end of a lot of Pat Mahomes throws
that have just blown my mind that he.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
Could even make these throws. Sometimes but his ability, his
natural ability.
Speaker 7 (49:20):
To make plays, him make plays, break break tackles, throw
the ball across the field. It's it's he's done it
in a way that no quarterback has ever played this game.
And uh, and he's won at a very very high level. Uh,
you know, with with the world count them out a
few times and and I think that, uh, you know,
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his ability to lead, just like Coach Reid, and his
ability to come in and motivate guys and make guys
better on this team is second to none, man. And
I just uh, I see it every single day, just
like I see it with Coach Reid. His attention to detail,
how fast he thinks, how fast he can get the
ball out, his ability to make every throat and then
on top of that, you got the wins and the
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Super Bowls to do it.
Speaker 6 (50:04):
Is there somebody that you think is the toughest competition
waiting for you?
Speaker 1 (50:07):
Or does it matter?
Speaker 7 (50:09):
I said this on on New Heights, Man, I want
to play the best man, whoever that is, whoever were presented.
I want them to be at their best, and I
want it to be you know, a challenge that's uh,
that's worth fighting for.
Speaker 3 (50:22):
Man. I just love I love this time of the year.
I think it's it's my favorite time of the year.
Speaker 7 (50:26):
I've been hoping I can press fast forward just to
get to this point, but know that the NFL doesn't
work like that. But whoever, we we get an arrowhead,
I'm fired up and I'm ready to compete and just
give them, give them our best.
Speaker 6 (50:40):
My very last question, is it all right for us
to call you a swifty?
Speaker 4 (50:44):
Is that all right?
Speaker 3 (50:45):
I'm the number one swift.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
Number one right, even even more than Mama, even more
to Mama, she seems to be a swift.
Speaker 3 (50:54):
Now I'm right there. We're neck and neck. We're right there,
we're tired at the top.
Speaker 1 (50:58):
Nothing but love for you, my brother. Is so good
to see you. Man. Now you know I'm gonna catch
you down the road. I'll be at the super Bowl.
I'll try to get the arrow head before I can't
make any promises what it's cold, Whether it's coldor can't
make any promises. But I miss you, my man, and
and yes I'm coming on New Heights. When you call, man,
I'll beat there.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
You're the best ever do it.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
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the one and only Travis kelce Travis Kelcey and I
go back a long ways. You know, he's a cool brother,
and I don't comment about people's personal life, and I
ain't about to start that now. Let's just say I
knew him long before Tiller Swift ever came along. I
know what the brother's about. I know what kind of
brother he is, and he's truly one of those people
that's like my brother from another mother. He's just he's
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just that cool, that relatable, that down to earth, that
decent as a as a human being. He's real good
people and I've always had a lot of love for him.
I don't get into a lot of intimate personal details
about people personal life. I know y'all were expecting that.
Damn that shit. I don't do that. Okay, whatever, he
wants to tell, he wants to tell. He ain't asking
(53:30):
me about my personal life. I ain't asking you about
yours on that level. Say what you want to say, Okay.
But he's very happy. He's happier than I've ever seen him.
He's at peace with himself, seems to have found his
rhythm in life, per se, And what can you say
about it? He's one of those casters gonna be around
for a very long time the minute he leaves the business.
(53:51):
I mean you already see his new Heights podcast. You
know over two and a half million subscribers for crying
a lout him and his brother Jason Kelsey doing their thing. Travis,
he ain't going nowhere. He gonna play football for a
little while longer if he wants to. He'll contemplate whether
he's gonna retire or not after this season is over.
But he's definitely got a career in an industry, not
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just in podcasting, but in television. What network ain't gonna
want to hire him to talk about NFL football? Who's
not gonna do that? Okay? And then, Lord help you
if things go even further with Taylor Swift, I mean,
my lord, he'll be the most popular football player in history,
not because of football, so I mean, and that's what
a hale. That's with Hall of Fame credentials, so the
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sky's the limit for him. But he's truly one of
those people who deserved it, and I'm really really happy
for him, and it was good to see him and
it was good to talk to him as well. I
hope y'all enjoyed the conversation as much as I did,
because I really did. And I still don't know if
the Chiefs gonna win it, because I got to tell you,
Buffalo or Baltimore, they got what it takes to take
the Kansas City Chiefs out of here, and I think
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the Roy if they met him in the Super Bowl,
got what it takes. I don't know if they beat
the Chiefs or not. Who the hell knows who's gonna
be Patrick Mahomes, But the fact that they got a
chance makes these playoffs very, very interesting and compelling, which
means I'm looking forward to the games to come. So
I hope y'all enjoyed the show, and I hope y'all
let me know that in the days to come. Until then,
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I'm about to sign off right here. To stephen A. Smith,
I'm out until a couple of days from now. Peace
and love, everybody. Take it easy.
Drake making news again to let y'all know, y'all he
don't like not like us. That's number one. Number two
Travis Kelsey. He's a bad brother for a multitude of reasons.
It could be football, it could be Taylor Swift. You
don't know what he's gonna say, but you'll find out
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because he's here. Next on The stephen A. Smith Show.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Holla, what's up? Everybody?
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Welcome to the Ladies edition of The stephen A. Smith Show.
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member of the Steven A. Smith Show family. We got
a lot to get into today because I got my mayor,
Travis Kelsey wait and okay, Travis Kelce wait, and I
got to talk to my brother from another mother, all right,
who obviously is gearing towards threepeating as a Super Bowl champion.
Looking forward to talking to him. I think you'll be
very interested in that conversation he and I are about
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to have, make no mistake about it. But before we
do any of that, let's get started with some news
out of the entertainment industry. And it's something that we've
touched on before. Y'all Drake you know that, brother, He's
going ahead and filed a lawsuit against his own record company,
Universal Music Group for Kendrick Lamar's not Like Us. Attorneys
(02:28):
for Drake say the song, which is aimed at the
Canadian rapper, is an example of valuing quote corporate greed
over the safety and well being of its artists end quote.
Kendrick released Not Like Us last summer after a series
of disc tracks exchanged between the two artists in the spring.
On the song, Lamar calls Drake a pedophile and accuses
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him of appropriating black culture. Again. Both artists are under
Universal Music Group Umbrella. Here's a portion of the claims
in the suit, written by Drake's attorney. They claim UMG
quote approved, published, and launched a campaign to create a
viral hit out of a rap track that was intended
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to convey the specific, unmistakable and false factual allegation that
Drake is a criminal pedophile and to suggest that the
public should resort to vigilante justice in response end quote.
Ladies and gentlemen, I'm torn, and i want to be
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very very sensitive to this subject because I'm a product
of the hip hop genre and what have you. I
grew up in Hollis, Queens, New York City, listening to
run DMC. They're from Hollis. Jam Master J, the late
jam Master J. God Rest his soul was great friends
with my late brother Bezu god Rest his soul LL
(04:00):
WHOJ grew up five minutes down the block on Farmers Boulevard.
You know the joh Rules, the fitty sense of the world,
and others from Queens. So for me, when I bring
up hip hop culture, my initial response, which hasn't changed
that much by the way, is go handle your business
in that studio. See, Drake got sensitive with a lot
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of people when he went after DeMar Deroz and talking
about you know what. You know he would not go
for his jersey being hung in the rafters. You know
when he was put off by Lebron James dancing to
Drake's music. And you know when DeMar Derozen and Russell
Westbrook and these brothers were on stage while Kendrick Lamar
was performing. Not like us. They all from Compton, not Lebron,
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but they from La That's not a crime. So in
that regard, I thought Drake was tripping. I was up
the mindset like YO. Handle it in the studio. He
got today, that don't mean he gonna get you next week.
And if he got you, he got you. But if
you got sent better something, the Eclipse not like us.
(05:08):
Do that because Drake, you that great, you that special?
What's the problem? Get in the studio and handle it
like that. You don't handle it in the courtroom. That's
not how you address contention in the hip hop industry
when it comes to actual records being made. That's not
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what you do. And I stand on that. I firmly
believe that Drake should do one or two things. Stand
down and say he got me, or stand up by
going in the studio and making another distrack of your
own and making sure it Eclipse is not like us,
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what are the other I firmly believe that I'm not
backing down or bound down from that. But I'm gonna
tell y'all where Drake hits me and my sensitive side.
Dare I say comes into play when you have to
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move your child and the mother out of elementary school,
when he's being threatened in school, when the mother and
the child have to move out of Toronto. According to
the reports, that's what it says for safety reasons. When
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you've been accused and people think there's validity not just
you know, lyrical dissection dissection, but literally they're attaching legitimacy
to allegations and accusations of you being a pedophile. Then
it gets a little dicey, tou jug I mean Universal
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Music Group. Both of them are under that umbrella. I'm
not gonna look at Universal Music Group and say what
it was a crime for them trying to profit off
of you? Hell yeah. They trying to profit off for
you in any way they can, whether it's through your
music or somebody else's music about you. The record company.
Of course, that's what they're gonna do. Cost that's what
they're gonna do. One could argue they should be a
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bit sensitive to one of their own artists, but in
their mind, did it compromise your bottom line? They don't
think so. Did it compromise Kendrick Lamar's bottom line since
he's under their umbrella as well? Damn sure didn't it?
Big up, Tim, it's making him a boat load of money.
That means it's gonna make them a boatload of money.
And their attitude is they probably were expecting you to
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come back with even more material to go out him
with and they could make money off of both of y'all.
That's what they probably were thinking. That ain't what happened,
because that's not what happened. And when you consider the
level of sensitivity that's been brought to the equation, because again,
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he was basically accused of being a pedophile appropriate black coach.
I don't want to hear all of that. That's a
different subject for another day. But being called a pedophile, yeah,
he's a dad in this universe. Is your own music,
is your own music company that's promoting this stuff? Okay,
(08:30):
all right? I understand I'm not as dog a as
giinst it as I once was, even though I still
wouldn't do it. I understand where Drake's coming from. I
just think that ultimately he's defeating the purpose because in
the end, you're a hip hop artist who's gonna want
your music to be absorbed by the masses in the
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future because you're far from a finished product, and there's
gonna be an abundance of people out there that look
at this as a weak way to come at somebody
like Kendrick Lamar, who came at you the way that
he did. They want you to come back the same
way or bow down to the fact that you got shook.
That's how people are. I can see both sides of this.
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Before I could only see the one side that this
looked weak to be using the Lord to come after
an artist that took it to you in the studio.
But I get where you're coming from. Now I do
see it. I still wouldn't do it, but that's me
a lot of people I know. But I understand why
Drake could feel differently about this. I do. Coming up,
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he's a three times Super Bowl champion who is arguably
the greatest tight end in the history of the National
Football League. Travis Kelcey joins the show as the Chiefs
attempt to become the first team in NFL history to
three p and he may have something to say about
his love life as well. He's Taylor Swift Ride right,
(10:02):
he might have something to say. He might not. I
don't know. I don't know. We're about to find out though.
Next right here, when the Stephen Nate Smith show back
for more in a minute, All right, everybody, listen up.
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Texans quarterback CJ. Stroud facing the Kansas City Chiefs more
or less than two hundred and twenty seven and a
half passing yards. I'm going to go with more. I'm
just going to go with more. I believe in Stroud,
I believe in his abilities. He doesn't have Stefan Diggs,
he doesn't have Tank Dell, but he can still fling
that football. Kansas City has been shaky at times. I know,
(11:50):
Spag Nolan, that defense, getting that you can cause some havoc.
But for CJ. Stroud, this shouldn't be too big to accomplish.
I'm gonna go with more on this one. Next up,
we've got Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes up against the Houston
Texans with more or less than two hundred and fifty
and a half passing yards. For this one, I'm also
going to go with more. This was shaky, I believe
it or not, because Houston could get to the quarterback
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and I get that, And I don't think that Kansas
City has the most stout running game in the world,
So how the hell are gonna win this game. If
Patrick Mahomes ain't throwing the football effectively, I believe he will.
I believe he's rested, he's healthy. They're all ready to go.
I think Travis Kelsey's gonna have a big game as well.
And I think in the end, for Patrick Mahomes to
chuk up two hundred and fifty plus yards is not
a big ask. I think he's gonna do that in
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this game at Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas City. Next up,
we've got Washington Commander's quarterback Jade and Daniels more or
less than two hundred and thirty four and a half
passing yards. Have you seen his brother play? I'm going
with more. How the hell can we use the word
less associated with Jade and Daniels Less losses? That's about it.
That's about it, less drop it, that's about it. But
when it comes to accumulating things that contribute to success
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Jade and Daniels, that word more is apropos. This brother special.
He's a superstar in the making, make no mistake about it.
I'm gonna go with more on this. Finally, Detroit Lions
quarterback Jared Goff more or less than two hundred and
seventy and a half passing yards. I'm gonna go with
more on this as well, Ladies and Gentlemen's is the
number one offense in the NFL, a top two passing
attack in the NFL. They've got Laporter, they got James
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and Williams, they got a lot of cats. They got
the kid Gibbs running out of the backfield. Offensively speaking,
they got a lot of firepower in the Motor City.
Thirteen dudes on the defensive side of the ball on
injured reserve, they still blew out the Minnesota Vikans. Okay,
ran them out of the building. These brothers come to
bring it. And I think in a game like this, okay,
with Washington, Washington's gonna do some things right. Jaydon Daniel's
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gonna get off He's not gonna panic in a big moment.
And I think as a result of that, it's gonna
call for Detroit to be more than they expected to be.
And I think they're gonna ros to the occasion. And
as a result, Jered Golf is gonna rise to the occasion.
And the word more will fit where this is concerned.
That's where I'm at with this all for these folks,
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What's going on, Adam? How are you? You see my
picks up there? You see my NFL picks up there?
What are your thoughts? My man?
Speaker 3 (14:29):
What's up?
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Seven?
Speaker 5 (14:30):
I appreciate having me on man. My favorite pick you
got is that Jayden Daniels more. I mean, Jaden Daniels
is playing on a whole different level right now.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
You know.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
The thing that Jayden does is.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
When he can run the football the way he does
with his legs is it takes that extra defender out
of the box and then that commander's offense is putting
him in that second down and short, third down and
short situation, which you know, yeah, that's where quarterbacks can thrive, man,
because they got the threat of you can run the football.
The defense has to play the run and then Jaden's
able to take off with his legs or throw the
football down on the field. Man that Cliff Kingsbury Jaden
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Daniels combo is a match made in heaven right now?
Speaker 1 (15:05):
You have any issue with me going with more with CJ.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Stroud, No, I like it. I like it.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
I mean I The only one I'm a little nervous
about is the Patrick Mahomes play on More. I mean
the chief starters haven't played in three weeks now. Chief
starters have been on the day they listen, they haven't played.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Me a little rustier.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
They're gonna come out swinging on the first two three
drives of the game. And you know, if if he
doesn't play well in the first second quarter of this game,
that may be hard.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
To hit that number.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Uh that that that on the moral passing yards for him.
So but that's the only one that lets a little shaky.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Why why why wouldn't they, Adam, We've been off three weeks,
But they should come out swinging. They're gonna be spread, spry, healthy,
had enough time in the hot tub to thauna the
cold pledge and everything else in between. They're good to go.
They should to come out there with fresh legs. They
saw they ain't been beat up. They might be a
bit rusty, but they can work off that Russ instantly
looking to air it out. What didn't you say?
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (16:00):
But the thing is that passing game is all about timing, man,
and and you get three weeks off, you get three
weeks off. It may not click the way everyone thinks
it's going to in the first quarter of that game.
So I think Mahomes will play well, but taking more
on his passing yards in the in the first time
he's playing in a few weeks.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
I'm a little shaky on that one.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Overall.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
I like the picks though.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Let me ask you this for I let you before
I move on from list of day who you got
one in these games?
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Man?
Speaker 5 (16:25):
I like I got the Eagles winning. Okay, I like
at the end of the day, man, the the way
Jane and Daniels is playing. I like the Commanders to win.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Uh. The way the Commander is to beat Detroit.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Yes, I like I like the command beat Detroit.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
And it all to me.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
It all to me comes down to how well the
Commanders have been playing on offense. And then for Detroit
and Jared Goff. Listen, it's been it's been a Cinderella
story for a long time.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Everyone.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Everyone's riding the Lions wave right now. Everyone's talking about
how great they are. All the love around Dan Campbell.
It's too much for me, man, it's too much. It's
time that we get a big upset in one of
these games, and it's gonna be the Commanders.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Well how big of an upset would be if you
got thirteen to fifteen dudes on injured reserve. But that's
a subject for another day. Let me switch to college
football because I can't believe that Notre Dame is going
to be playing for the national championship. But give Marcus
Freeman all the credit in the world for doing what
he has done. You see my picks up there, Riley Leonard,
Will Howard just see you know, love there as well
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of course, Traveon Henderson. I mean, any issues with the
picks that I picked right there for you?
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Now? I like it.
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Riley Leonard passing yards. You know how does Notre Dame
throw the football against a Ohio State secondary that's been
playing really well and Riley Leonard. Here's the matchup I'm
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watching Riley Leonard when he's playing against the blitz is
one of the best in the country. Riley Leonard against
drop back when a team can win when the defense
drops seven in the coverage only rushes four is one
of the worst in the country. He's bad when teams
aren't blitzing. Um, that's true because he's not comfortable in
the pocket like that. So Ohio State now doesn't blitz
that much. So it's gonna put Riley Leonard in a
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position where he's gonna have to try to win the
game with his arm. If I'm Notre Dame, I'm getting
Ryley Leonard out of that pocket. Let him create with
his legs, let him make some things happen on the perimeter.
I'm a little bit nervous about how well Ryley Leonard
can really complete passes in this game. I think that'll
be the struggle, and it's why I have Ohio State
winning the game.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
How do you feel about Ohio State's Notre Dame rather
its defense to gets Ohio State's offense. I mean, with
the weapons that them brothers had, it's Smith and Nigmuka
and Henderson and nose boys, how is Notre Dame gonna
stop them?
Speaker 5 (18:49):
For Notre Dame, the key is gonna come down to
tackling in space. Listen, Notre Dame plays Cover one. I mean,
you know, man demand coverage, just cat coverage, right, you
cover that cat and that's who you got. They play
that Cover one one high safety and Ohio State doesn't
face the ton of Cover one because they got those
freak receivers Jerry Mina Smith, I'm Mecha booke A Carnel Tate.
So that matchup against these Ohio State receivers will be
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the key to the game. If you want to play
man covers though, for Notre Dame, you better be great
at tackling the guy who has the ball. That's what
it all comes down to. Can Notre Dame tackle in space?
If Ohio State has big plays, it's gonna be ben
if Notre Dame missed some tackles.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Not because Notre Dame was out of position.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
But Adam, I'm asking you Ken they can they tackle
in space?
Speaker 5 (19:31):
Yeah, I think they will. I have this game being
very close. I think Notre Dame keeps it tight. I
think they they're able to stop some of Ohio State's
run game. Listen, Ohio States offense wasn't even that good
against Texas. They had fourteen points and then he add
on a ninety yard defensive touchdown and he add on
a seventy five yard screenplay before the half.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
That was kind of a flute play.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
This Ohio State offense wasn't clicking real well against against Texas.
I think Notre Dame will be able to slow them down,
and I think it's a really tight, back and forth
ball game. I have Ohio State winning probably twenty four twenty,
but Notre Dame keeps this one close. The key to
Ohio State is gonna be their star receiver Jeremiah smith Man.
He's gonna have to have a big day as an
offensive coordinator, Chip Kelly, You're judge in these games by
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how well your best player plays. Jeremy smith is the
best player on the field. He needs to have a
big afternoon.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
See for me, Adam I'm gonna let you go, but
I want to go by saying this. I think if
it's close, it's Notre Dame. I think Ohio State. I
got Ohio State winning the national championship, but I got
them winning comfortably, pulling away in the fourth quarter. I'm
just of the mindset that the closer it is, the
more palms will get sweaty and backsides will get tight
because all the pressure will be on Ohio State because
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Notre Dame has absolutely positively nothing to lose. Nobody expected
them to be in this position. That's just where I'm
at with it. Adam. I appreciate man, you you you
coming on with this prospect segment. Thank you so much.
I appreciate the breakdown, my brother, Thank you. Appreciate that
me on all right, the one to know the Adam
Brenneman Prize Pick's partner. Man knows what he's talking about.
I hear him loud and clear, twenty four to twenty Damn.
(21:00):
I'm scared now. I'm scared for a house state now,
I really am.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
Oh my goodness, I couldn't wait to have my next guess.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
My brother from another mother. It's been a wild baby.
It's been a while, but I mean we're talking about
a future Hall of Famer at the tight end spot,
one of the greatest who've ever played the game, the
one and only Travis Kelsey of the rating, two time
defending Super Bowl champion Kisa City Chiefs. What's up a
big time? Are you doing? Man?
Speaker 7 (21:26):
Man, It's so good to be on here with this.
It's been too long, Man, it's been too long. Mission
big guys.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I mean, I miss you too. I'm just saying, I mean, damn,
how times have changed. I mean, the brother got the
new Heights podcast, God damned near three million subscribers, about
to win another Super I mean, every way I turn around,
I'm like, he's living a good life. How is life
treating Travis Kelce these days? Man?
Speaker 7 (21:48):
Man, I can't complain about a single thing. I wouldn't
if I could, But I just I'm enjoying playing football
right now at the highest level. You know, we're back
at it. Punch started taking into the dance and we're
rocking and rolling.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Baby.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
You know what, I applaored your response because I thought
the response that you gave to people that were acting
as if y'all were running from or avoiding playing it
wishing that you couldn't played it. But the Cincinnati Biggles,
I'm like, excuse me, Yeah, he should have cursed the
entire football world out for saying such a thing. Are
you shocked at even after all the success that you
guys have had, that you have people still chirping about
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y'all along the lines of something like that.
Speaker 7 (22:29):
You know, you would think that Andy Reid has gotten
the respect from the rest of the league that every
single time he's he's on the football field, he's playing
to win the game.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
You know.
Speaker 7 (22:37):
Obviously we have bigger fish to fry, and at that point,
you know, getting healthy and ready for this this final
stretch was the biggest thing. But Coach Reid, anytime he's there,
he's making sure he's motivating and challenging guys to be
at the best and go out there and play a
you know, play a game to win it. And so
I think, you know, everybody's gonna chirp and say what
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they want, but I know the integrity of the team
here and we were going out there to win that game.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Well, listen, my point is, I certain would not accuse
y'all to losing on purpose or whatever, but I was discussed.
I said, five first down to the whole damn game.
I'm my good lord, have mercy. I mean, I expected
better than that for the third year, for crying out loud,
but it is what it is. At at the end
of the day, y'all are raining two time defending Super
Bowl champions. Do you believe y'all have a better chance
of winning this year than you did last year or
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even the year before, you.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
Know, setting ourselves up with the with the one seed,
having having everybody have to come through Arrowhead. I think
this year it was such a different It was such
a different team, such a different field.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
We were barely winning football games at the end of
the game.
Speaker 7 (23:39):
So there is always that that feeling of we gotta
be better, we gotta be better, we gotta be better.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
And right now we're playing our best.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
Football man, and I'm definitely feeling confident, confident heck that
this team can make a run at it.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Confidence there's no reason it shouldn't be there, Travis. But
I got to ask this question. When you consider the
fact that y'all have home field advantage and the road
to the Super Bowl has to come through Arrowhead Stadium,
I know that's a plus. But one could easily juxtapose
that to saying there's a bit more pressure because last year,
after beating Miami, they had no chance against y'all, whether
the minute the mediaologist said it was gonna be the
freezer type of I knew Miami was done. They had
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no chance. Okay, But then after that, you go up
against Buffalo in Buffalo, you beat them. You go to
the AFC Championship game against Baltimore, and Baltimore you beat them.
So looking at that, could one make the argument that
there's even more pressure on y'all now to be the
first three peat Super Bowl champions in NFL history. But
you got home field advantage, or if you could win
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on the road last year, why wouldn't you be able
to win at home this year?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
You know, I don't think anybody challenges me more than me.
Speaker 7 (24:40):
You know, I put the expectations on myself and this
team more than anybody could put it on put it
on us.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
And that being said, you know, like you.
Speaker 7 (24:48):
Were saying that I've won in someone else's stadium, and
I've won them in my stadium, I've also lost in
my stadium. So handling this situation the right way playing,
playing with the momentum of the not letting the you know,
the game get too big, and and uh and and
you know, I think the biggest thing is when you
have home field advantage, you gotta set the tone early.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
You got to set the tone early.
Speaker 7 (25:10):
Come out hot and and let the crowd be a
part of it, give them something to get riled up
for and and cheer for, and let the other team
feel like they're in a hostile environment. But you know,
it's uh, it's it's all mentality, man, it's all mentality.
And when we're doing out on the field, we love
Arrowhead and how crazy it gets, but we know we
got to handle business on the field.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
And by the way, I got to throw myself on
the sword. Let America know damn it. I mean you
my brother from another mother. But I've lied to you
for years. I've been telling you I'm gonna get the
Arrowhead Stadium and I haven't done it yet. So I
come on, man, that's up.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Come on me.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
It saw on me. I got to get the freezing
ass Arrowhead Stadium. But let me let me ask you this.
And I say this, half half you know, playing halfway playing, well,
you're gonna stop lying to the American public and telling
them you thinking about retirement. I know you thirty five
years of age, you just completed your twelve season, but
damn ninety seven catches, eight hundred and two three receiving y'ards. Okay,
I'm looking at you this year. Andy Reid, ain't going nowhere.
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Patrick Mahomes, damn sure, ain't going nowhere. The Arrowhead Faithful
ain't going anywhere. What what you're doing talking about? You
might you might contemplate with time, and.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
For I'm it changes every single day. Man. I love
everything that I'm doing in this building.
Speaker 7 (26:20):
But at the end of the day, you know, I'm
not having that that extreme success on the field as
I as I have individually.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Man, But I'm excited.
Speaker 7 (26:29):
I'm excited for these next couple of games to play
up in Arrowhead, to finish this season off, and I'll
reevaluate it like I always do, and I'll probably tell
myself how much I love this thing, and I'll come
back next year. But it's just it's something that you
have to you have to keep in the perspective, man.
And and I never want to get to the point
where I'm not helping this team win, or I'm hurting
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this team more than I'm helping this team. So as
long as I'm coming out here playing good football and
the joint coming into the building every day with my guys,
you'll see me in a Chiefs uniform.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Let me remind you of some stats. I just want
to throw this out at you. Last year you had
ninety three receptions. This year you had ninety seven. Now
you had about nine hundred and eighty four receiving yards
this year is and the eight figures, I get that part.
They're the playoffs to Rob Travis and you had thirty
two receptions with three hundred and fifty five yards. Okay,
(27:20):
I mean I don't see the kind of drop off
that you're alluding to educate football lovers out there about
what it is that you think you might be missing
now compared to what you may have had last year
and years prior that has you contemplating stuff on a
day to day basis.
Speaker 7 (27:37):
Well, the biggest thing is is some of the most
fun you ever have in this game is having the
ball in your hands. And that being said, making guys
miss was something I always prided myself on and really
like that was the staple. You know, I made the
play more than what he was supposed to get. So
if I got a deep cross of eighteen yards, I'm
not just catching the ball and getting tackled. I'm turning
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that eighteen yard gain into twenty thirty forty plus yard game.
And over the past years, being able to make guys
miss just is it's got a little bit tougher, and
whether or not they just know my moves and I
gotta switch it up, or I gotta, you know, breakthrough
tackles or find another way to trick them so I
can make a miss. But that's the biggest thing is
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is being able to make guys missing space and getting
those extra yards that aren't necessarily in the scheme of
the play.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
You're confiding in me about it, so it's safe to
assume it's a conversation you've had with Andy Reid, it's
a conversation you've had with Patrick Mahomes. What have they
told you about what they see from you out on
the field.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
You know, I haven't really talked to anybody about this.
Speaker 7 (28:39):
You know, I think I'm still enjoying playing the game,
and when I'm in the building, I'm working to get
better and working to get you know, those that extra
you know, strength of that extra quickness to be able
to make guys miss It's it's a NonStop like staircase
of success here and weekend week out. Coach Read has
challenged us, our tight end room has challenged me to
to do more of that throughout the season, get more
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than what we're just getting on the catch.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
And it's a focus.
Speaker 7 (29:06):
It's a focus that is uh that's been there since
the since the since I've got here in Kansas City.
And you know, I'm I'm not contemplating uh it too much,
but at the same time, I'm always trying to be
better than I am right now.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Well, I got I got a personal complaint from my
brother from another mother. I got a personal complate right here,
and I'm gonna tell you what it is. Travis, you
know when you used to go in the in zone,
I mean, my brother got flavor. You understand, all white
dudes don't have this kind of flavor that brother has.
The Travis Kelsey and the dances that you will come
up with in the end zone. I mean that stuff
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was epic. I think you kind of doll that back
a little bit and dare I say you got a
little bit conservative. Might be a spike here, you might
slap a high five. I don't see the flavor, the celebrations,
the dance moves that you used to rock anymore. I
understand you ain't catching a whole bunch of touchdowns. I
get that point. You got other people to do that
for you. But you're still getting the end zone from
time time, and I know you go do it in
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a What's up with that? What happened to that flavor?
Speaker 6 (30:02):
Bro?
Speaker 3 (30:02):
I mean what I think you just called called me out?
Speaker 7 (30:05):
Man.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
I think I need to get back to it. I
think I need to get back to it.
Speaker 7 (30:08):
Matter of fact, the next one I get in there,
I'll make sure I get jiggy for you.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Man.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
It's definitely a part of just loving the game. Man,
join the game and.
Speaker 7 (30:17):
Having the showmanship to play with the crowd and play
with the teammates, and and the excitement after you score
a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
So I think you just you know what, you might
get me back into my old.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Way, right, get back in your own way. That way,
you're gonna stay a few more years in Kansas City.
You don't need to go nowhere. We listen, We don't need,
we don't need to be a Tyreek kill. I know
that's your former teammate, and you love him, and I
got in love for Tyree Hill. I think he's one.
I love him to death because I think he's elite.
I personally believe the biggest mistake. How do you leave
Patrick Mahomes? How do you leave Patrick mahole that you
want to get the money. But if you're go leave
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and you're gonna get the money, Travis, you can't go
out and say your next quarterback is gonna be comparable
to Patrick Mahomes. Could you at least give me that?
Could you at least give me that, Travis, at least that.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
You know what?
Speaker 7 (30:59):
You know, loved the Cheetah and he was he was
he was being a good teammates what he was being,
so I respect saying it. And he was being hopeful
and and and Tua came out and had an unbelievable
year last year. Obviously he had the concussions and everything,
but there's nobody like Patrick Mahomes and everybody knows that.
But he was just being a good teammate, trying to
shout out his new QB. We missed the guy and
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uh and I still love him to death. Man, the
Cheetah will forever be one of the most explosive players
that have ever played this game.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
And uh and and and a true brother to me. Man.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Well, listen, man, let me let me get a little
personal with you right here, because you and I have
known each other for years. I got a lot of
love for you. And you know me, I don't ask
a bunch of questions. I ain't gonna ask one. I
ain't gonna ask a bunch of questions now. But we're
gonna get a little personal here for a second. Ruh,
how's life my brother, Amy Travis Kelsey? Off the football field?
You you you living a little bit better than most.
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I mean, could you explain?
Speaker 7 (31:51):
And I'm enjoying all aspects a lot that man.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
You are happy and I couldn't be happier to have that.
Speaker 7 (32:00):
You know, that confidence and that comfort off the field
and all the support I could ever ask for in
the stadium.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Man, Yo, Travis, I got a confession to make, bro.
What's all I never really listened to her music before
I went to her concert, Yo, Travis. It's the greatest
comfort i'ven't been through my life.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
It's off the change.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
I couldn't believe it. It's the greatest concert I ever
been to in my life. I mean, and my daughter's
hood with me because they got me to take ten
of their friends. And that was two thousand Apartmas twenty
thousand dollars on that damn concert, twent thousand dollars. By
the way, I ain't got your money. I ain't got
your money, Travis, I ain't got damn sore. I don't
have her money. I can't, I couldn't. I said, just
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better be worth it, and I gotta confess it was
so damn good. I went back twice. Steven Nickson, Oh yeah,
I went twice. I went to two tailors Swift concerts,
bro to Tailor show.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
She had you singing along the second time.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
You stand there and did and ain't that up? Ain't
that's something? With that being said, when you look at
your life right now, has that added to your football
talent and your estimation or has it been I'm gonna
compare it to a fighter, whereas you starving, you struggling,
you going out there, you hardcore because you got to
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go and get it, and then all of a sudden
you hit the jackpot with everything that you're doing, super
Bowl championships, you know, herd in your life and what
have you. It's the equivalent of waking up in silk
for jump is it trying to go in that box
and ring and get it done? Where would you describe
your mentality to be at this particular moment in time
knowing how well everything is going for you or both
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personally and professionally.
Speaker 7 (33:41):
Well, I think personally, you know, that's the beauty of
being in a very strong relationship, is that you get
that support to be able to come in and focus
on your craft, focus on being the best version of you.
You know, that's why I wanted to be at the concert,
supporting her and being there for her, making sure she
feels comfortable and supported and everything she's doing in life.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
And you know, I think, Uh, I'm.
Speaker 7 (34:03):
As focused as I've ever been on my job and
being the best player that I could possibly be a weekend,
week out for this team. And you know it's because
I'm uh, I don't have to worry about things in
the off the field.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
There were people that looked at you at the beginning
of the season and felt like you were in in
peak condition and they didn't blame.
Speaker 6 (34:22):
Her, but they were saying you being so supportive.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Of her and traveling so much that took away from you.
How did you feel when you were hearing that kind
of noise about yourself at that time?
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Well, the first thing is you have to you have
to be true to yourself.
Speaker 7 (34:37):
You know, people are saying things. You got to be
able to reflect and look at yourself and see, you know,
why are they saying these things? And I was still
playing high did I was still playing at a high level,
you know, knowing all that has been said, we were
winning football games, which is all I ever care about.
And on top of that, this building knew how hard
I worked and how much focus I have on football
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throughout the year.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
So it's just what's true, what's real?
Speaker 7 (35:04):
And how how do we become better knowing that, you know,
what I'm putting out on the field may not have
been my best or how do I keep getting better
throughout knowing that the roles have changed a little bit.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
What kind of conversations did you have with your brother
Jason about such subjects. This is a guy that's a champion,
obviously playing in the NFL for as long as he did,
damn it. I don't even remember him missing a game
in thirteen years for crying out loud. And by the way,
I love your brother on ESPN. He's a welcome teammate.
He's a really good he's a really good guy. I
love talking to him whenever I get the opportunity to
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do so. But what kind of conversations were you having
with him about how you were looking or how you
were feeling at that particular moment in time, and how
you were feeling about ultimately continuing your playing career.
Speaker 7 (35:49):
You know, I've been so fortunate to have Jason always
two steps ahead of me. It's two years older than me.
We followed each other to Cincinnati Niversity of Cincinnati, we
followed each other to be under a coach Andy Reider,
get drafted by coach Reid. And I've seen how it's
done the right way, you know, both from on the
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field and off the field. I think my brother is
a great model of success, you know, in the city
of Philadelphia, just as much as he is at the
Link And and I love him for it. And I
don't necessarily even have to have a lot of questions
for him, but just have a talk about life with him,
and and I can get a lot out of that.
Out of that, I think my brother, My brother's biggest
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thing is, you know, when you come into the building,
do you still feel you know, the energy, do you
still feel the excitement and uh? And do you still
feel like you can do it at a high level
weekend week out, knowing the seasons are only getting longer
with the man in the seventeenth game and another playoff
seat or another playoff team into the playoffs. So it's
just hearing him talk about how the end of his
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career came about and how he how tough of a
decision it was for him. I can get all all
the you know, I can get sent in the right
direction by just being here.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
I tell you this much. Man, I wish he had
a retired because I think the Philadelphia Eagles would even
be better off if he was still there. And then
we learned after he departed that that was one of
the reasons Jalen Hurts was struggling because he was deferring
the Jason and you know, with a lot of stuff
that was going on, I'm like, well, damn, how come
you didn't beg him to stay? You should have begged
them to stay in additional year or two. That's where
I'm going with that. But I tell you this too
(37:30):
as well. When I think about your brother and your
new Heights podcast, I want you to talk about how
that came about, how that unfold. You guys got what
a two point five million subscribers with crying a line
and deserve it, by the way, Congrata, it's one that
I got. It's one than I got for the moment,
damn it all right, and you deserve it for the moment.
You know I'm coming, you know I'm always coming. But
here's the but here's the deal. How did that come about?
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And how do you feel about you two doing that?
And what kind of impact y'all are having, not just
in football but beyond.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (38:00):
Yeah, And you know, I think that's been the goal, uh,
for a lot of football players in this league, is
to set yourself up because we know this this game,
it isn't forever, and you got to be able to
set yourself for what happens after football. And me and Jason,
we uh to be honest, we just we missed each other.
We hadn't had those conversations every single week, and now
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we have two hours set aside every single week to.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Talk football, catch up on things, and just beat brothers.
Speaker 7 (38:27):
And uh, you know you got that aspect of wanting
to set yourself after, set yourself up after football. And
then everybody always said before New Heights, me and Jason
worked on two completely different sides of the spectrum. You know,
he's a he still wears flip flops in the snow
and I'd like to you know, bundle up and and
and look fresh and uh and you know, have fun
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with the things that I wear, where Jason is just
about a neanderthal in that world.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (38:53):
And they they just never saw the similarities until you
get us into the same room and hear us talk
at like a lunch table, dinner table. You don't really
realize how close we are as brothers. Knowing that we're
only two years of pardon, I've been following him throughout
my entire life, man, So I wanted to show showcase
that and let people know, you know, how strong of
a bond and how much we support each other and
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what a true brotherhood looks like.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Well, now that you've done that, what do you too
like talking about most outside of football? I'm talking about
outside of football on the podcast, the kind of information
or the kind of subject matter you want to disseminate
to the public. What do you enjoy tackling most?
Speaker 7 (39:32):
You know what the most fun I have is UH
is talking about my childhood, my love for sports, and
what really sparked me to get into the profession that
I am that I have today. And I think having
ex players come on and having the stars of my
childhood and and and UH and Jason's childhood come on
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and talk about what made.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Them great and just the stories of you know, what
they went through.
Speaker 7 (39:59):
I think that's the fun part is being able to
just talk to Jason about our childhood and tell the
fun stories about being in the Kelsey household as well
as you know, the things that we love to do
as kids and now as adults.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Are you prepared and as Jason prepared for the fact
that as y'all continue to grow and shine, because the
podcast is not going away, as your audience grows, I
know you're going to want to continue to do it.
With that being said, you're going to have to find
yourself being a bit critical of folks out there when
they ain't getting the job done, when they mess up
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and you as a three time super Bowl champion, him
as a champion. When you think about what y'all are
bringing to the table in that regard, are y'all prepared
to have to deal with.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
All of that?
Speaker 7 (40:44):
And you know what, I think that's what makes guys
like yourself so good is the ability to be true.
And I think You've always been true to me in
my career. You've called me out on numerous times, and
I've always accepted that, and I've always, you know, reevaluated
what I've been doing because you do. You always keep
it real and you always keep it honest. And that's
why I love listening to you, big dogwas. I think
(41:06):
I think that is a talent in itself. I meet personally.
I like to shine light on everybody and everything. I
don't really like to take too many shots of people
unless I've been truly disrespected.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
So it is, it is.
Speaker 7 (41:18):
It has been a bit of a challenge being able
to call things out and be confident and try and
be critical without chopping somebody down.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
But it's definitely something that that I'm working off for
shore I try.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
I try to make sure I don't get personal and
that a guy knows that when I'm being critical of you,
I'm not rooting against you. I'm telling you you ain't
doing what you're supposed to be doing. Your ability, your
ability to do that. You get that. I get that,
Jason gets that. But you know as well as I do,
not just in the NFL, but in professional sports, there's
a lot of cats that don't get it and don't
embrace it that way. How do you deal with that?
Speaker 7 (41:53):
Well, what's real and what's not real? I was talking
about it earlier, about watching film and seeing, you know,
how how the success I've had in the past is
compared to the success I'm having now. And I think
it's the same in the media. You know, somebody's saying something.
What's warranting them for saying that?
Speaker 3 (42:10):
Why? What's the reasoning for it?
Speaker 7 (42:11):
You have to be confident in your abilities, but also
confident to just keep trying to find ways to better yourself,
better your team and uh and you always got to
separate reality from from what's not real. And what's real
for me is the building I walk into, the faces
that I go to work with, and uh, then the
people that I love at home, and you know that's
(42:33):
what that's what you really gotta know, differentiate and be
comfortable in your own skin.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
Man, you can't get.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Yeah, appropriate question to ask with that Lombardy Trophy hanging
above your head right there.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
Y'alls on the shine to it.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
There you go, there you go. That ain't your office, though,
I mean, is that's your crib?
Speaker 4 (42:54):
I got you so.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
So here you are on the verge of possibly being
the first team and that NFL history to three P
as Super Bowl champions. It's one thing to compartmentalize and say,
we just hear we going for the chip. Obviously y'all
said it on stage after y'all beat San Francisco in
the Super Bowl last year. We going for a three
(43:15):
P first team in order to pull it off? What
would that mean to y'all?
Speaker 3 (43:21):
Man?
Speaker 7 (43:21):
You know, I've always been trying to chase greatness my
entire life. I've been so fortunate to be able to
come here to Kansas City and have to fill the
shoes of a guy like Tony Gonzalez. And then, you know,
when when you start to have your own success, you
start to really feel the urge to keep to keep
being greater than what you've been in the past, and
(43:43):
no team has ever done it three times in a row, man.
And I don't know why, but last year I felt
like I wanted it more than I had in previous
years because it was the Upper Echelona teams that had
gone back to back, you know, they were considered dynasty
teams that were considered teams that you know, took over
an entire decade of football and remember forever, and those
(44:05):
teams being able to get it and done a third
time all fell short. And I see that as an
opportunity to be the greatest dynasty or the greatest you know,
team of the decade, however you.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
Want to call it.
Speaker 7 (44:18):
But I just have it in me to really want
that for the guys that I've gone to war with
in this building and have seen work so hard to
be able to get it to this point.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Man, Travis, let me throw this out at you, bro.
Travis Kelcey all time NFL rank as a tight end.
Receptions third behind Tony Gonzalez and Jason Whitten, receiving yards
third behind Tony Gonzalez and Jason Witten, touchdown catches fifth
all time. If you three pet is it possible that
(44:54):
in a month's time.
Speaker 6 (44:56):
Travis Kelsey says, I did it three re peede it.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Look at my numbers. I'm done. My football career is over.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Man.
Speaker 7 (45:07):
You know I think, uh, I think, I'm I'm so
deep in chasing this one right now. I can't even
fathom what football would be like. Uh not in like
not playing football as a profession. Man, I still love
coming into the building every single day. Does it get hard, Yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
I'm not. I'm not doing it for the stats. I'm
doing it for the greatness.
Speaker 7 (45:30):
Uh the legacy that we've created here in Kansas City
with with Pat, with Chris Jones, with Coach Red, Coach Spags,
you name all the guys in the building. Man, it's
been It's been so much fun coming in the building
with these guys. So I can't fathom what it would
feel like just being able to say I'm I'm satisfied,
because I'm still hungry to go and get something right now.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
You know, I remember when Time Brady was winning Super Bowls.
He had a supermodel for a wife that wanted him
to retire. Uh is miss Swift? Is she encouraging you
to continue to play or to retire because it is
a violent sport and she don't want her.
Speaker 7 (46:06):
She's fully encouraging me to enjoy playing this game. And uh,
she loves coming to Arrowhead and coming to the games
and cheril for me. So I got all the support
in the world to keep chasing these dreams.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
Andy Reid the best coach ever, the.
Speaker 7 (46:21):
Greatest to ever do it, even with Belichick out. The
wins are there, the super Bowls are there. He's gone
every everywhere he's gone, he's won, and and he's done
it in a in a way that's that's so much
respected by everybody that plays for him.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
I don't know if you noticed. Andy Reid and I
go back to my Philadelphia days.
Speaker 3 (46:41):
I love that. Oh yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
Man. I'm gonna talk to him soon. But Andy Reid,
what makes him special? I know he knows what he's
doing as a football coach, but I'm talking about from
a personality standpoint. For him to be his age, to
be around as long as he is, and to be
so relatable to the modern day player while still having
structured just every coach can't pull that off. How does
he do it?
Speaker 3 (47:03):
Well?
Speaker 7 (47:03):
He's tough, and he shows his toughness every single day.
He shows his desire to be at his best every
single day. I'd laugh about it all the time. I
never see his truck leave this parking lot. Man, this
guy loves, loves being accountable and loves coming in and
being his best for this organization in this city. And
I just I think it's a unique blend of being
(47:26):
able to be relatable to everybody. No matter how old
he gets and how young these players are getting in
the league, he always has the ability to relate to guys.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
And that's big in the football world because these days,
these days get long, and.
Speaker 7 (47:43):
You know, it's just it gets difficult coming in and
doing the same routines for twenty weeks out of the year.
So being able to relate to everybody, being able to
have that toughness to respect out of everybody, and on
top of that being true, he's always real. He'll tell
He'll tell you when you're slacking, no matter if you're
an a time Pro bowler or the rookie on the team,
(48:06):
He'll tell you when you're slacking and when you need
to pick it up. And and honestly, because you relate
to him so well and he has so much toughness,
it typically just turns into a challenge for you. To
get better and uh, and I think he does that
better than anybody in the league, on top of just
being able to be creative and have fun, uh, you know,
making up these plays in the building and always putting
(48:27):
his players in the best place to the best situations
to have success on the field.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
Two quick last questions before I'll let you go. Patrick
Mahomes three super Bowl titles in five years. If y'all
had an offensive line, that would have been four.
Speaker 7 (48:40):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
But at the end of the day, here's what it
comes down to. A lot of people look at him
and they say he's the best ever ever. Others look
at at Joe Montana four rings, Others look at a
Pat Tom Brady seven rings. The three peat will cement it, okay,
but without the three pat, you look at Patrick Mahomes
right now, based on the guys that I mentioned, he's
(49:01):
the best on the planet.
Speaker 7 (49:02):
To you ever, best ever do it, the best ever
do it? And and to be honest, I think, you know,
obviously I'm a little biased. I think I've been on
the receiving end of a lot of Pat Mahomes throws
that have just blown my mind that he.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
Could even make these throws. Sometimes but his ability, his
natural ability.
Speaker 7 (49:20):
To make plays, him make plays, break break tackles, throw
the ball across the field. It's it's he's done it
in a way that no quarterback has ever played this game.
And uh, and he's won at a very very high level. Uh,
you know, with with the world count them out a
few times and and I think that, uh, you know,
(49:41):
his ability to lead, just like Coach Reid, and his
ability to come in and motivate guys and make guys
better on this team is second to none, man. And
I just uh, I see it every single day, just
like I see it with Coach Reid. His attention to detail,
how fast he thinks, how fast he can get the
ball out, his ability to make every throat and then
on top of that, you got the wins and the
(50:03):
Super Bowls to do it.
Speaker 6 (50:04):
Is there somebody that you think is the toughest competition
waiting for you?
Speaker 1 (50:07):
Or does it matter?
Speaker 7 (50:09):
I said this on on New Heights, Man, I want
to play the best man, whoever that is, whoever were presented.
I want them to be at their best, and I
want it to be you know, a challenge that's uh,
that's worth fighting for.
Speaker 3 (50:22):
Man. I just love I love this time of the year.
I think it's it's my favorite time of the year.
Speaker 7 (50:26):
I've been hoping I can press fast forward just to
get to this point, but know that the NFL doesn't
work like that. But whoever, we we get an arrowhead,
I'm fired up and I'm ready to compete and just
give them, give them our best.
Speaker 6 (50:40):
My very last question, is it all right for us
to call you a swifty?
Speaker 4 (50:44):
Is that all right?
Speaker 3 (50:45):
I'm the number one swift.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
Number one right, even even more than Mama, even more
to Mama, she seems to be a swift.
Speaker 3 (50:54):
Now I'm right there. We're neck and neck. We're right there,
we're tired at the top.
Speaker 1 (50:58):
Nothing but love for you, my brother. Is so good
to see you. Man. Now you know I'm gonna catch
you down the road. I'll be at the super Bowl.
I'll try to get the arrow head before I can't
make any promises what it's cold, Whether it's coldor can't
make any promises. But I miss you, my man, and
and yes I'm coming on New Heights. When you call, man,
I'll beat there.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
You're the best ever do it.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
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the one and only Travis kelce Travis Kelcey and I
go back a long ways. You know, he's a cool brother,
and I don't comment about people's personal life, and I
ain't about to start that now. Let's just say I
knew him long before Tiller Swift ever came along. I
know what the brother's about. I know what kind of
brother he is, and he's truly one of those people
that's like my brother from another mother. He's just he's
(53:09):
just that cool, that relatable, that down to earth, that
decent as a as a human being. He's real good
people and I've always had a lot of love for him.
I don't get into a lot of intimate personal details
about people personal life. I know y'all were expecting that.
Damn that shit. I don't do that. Okay, whatever, he
wants to tell, he wants to tell. He ain't asking
(53:30):
me about my personal life. I ain't asking you about
yours on that level. Say what you want to say, Okay.
But he's very happy. He's happier than I've ever seen him.
He's at peace with himself, seems to have found his
rhythm in life, per se, And what can you say
about it? He's one of those casters gonna be around
for a very long time the minute he leaves the business.
(53:51):
I mean you already see his new Heights podcast. You
know over two and a half million subscribers for crying
a lout him and his brother Jason Kelsey doing their thing. Travis,
he ain't going nowhere. He gonna play football for a
little while longer if he wants to. He'll contemplate whether
he's gonna retire or not after this season is over.
But he's definitely got a career in an industry, not
(54:13):
just in podcasting, but in television. What network ain't gonna
want to hire him to talk about NFL football? Who's
not gonna do that? Okay? And then, Lord help you
if things go even further with Taylor Swift, I mean,
my lord, he'll be the most popular football player in history,
not because of football, so I mean, and that's what
a hale. That's with Hall of Fame credentials, so the
(54:37):
sky's the limit for him. But he's truly one of
those people who deserved it, and I'm really really happy
for him, and it was good to see him and
it was good to talk to him as well. I
hope y'all enjoyed the conversation as much as I did,
because I really did. And I still don't know if
the Chiefs gonna win it, because I got to tell you,
Buffalo or Baltimore, they got what it takes to take
the Kansas City Chiefs out of here, and I think
(54:59):
the Roy if they met him in the Super Bowl,
got what it takes. I don't know if they beat
the Chiefs or not. Who the hell knows who's gonna
be Patrick Mahomes, But the fact that they got a
chance makes these playoffs very, very interesting and compelling, which
means I'm looking forward to the games to come. So
I hope y'all enjoyed the show, and I hope y'all
let me know that in the days to come. Until then,
(55:21):
I'm about to sign off right here. To stephen A. Smith,
I'm out until a couple of days from now. Peace
and love, everybody. Take it easy.
Host
Stephen A. Smith
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