December 10, 2024 • 21 mins
Stephen A. Smith is a New York Times Bestselling Author, Executive Producer, host of ESPN's First Take, and co-host of NBA Countdown.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
I'm just sitting here. My useless little ass nephew is
sitting next to me, and they're thinking he the mac
daddy and all that. So you just sitting here, hit
the mic on or whatever, you know. Why did you
get on your uncle's last nerves all the damn time?
Why didn't you answer that question? For the public says here?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Why are you?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
It's like it's like you and and and your siblings
and your cousins, it's like y'all live to bother Uncle Steve.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Why, well, it's easy to keep me out of your head.
You know how to get you know how to get
rid of me. Send me to a nick game, Miami, Dubai,
wherever you were you gonna write it. Send you to Daba,
Send me to the bar.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
What the hell are you going to do in Dubai?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
We rich? Who's rich? Who's rich?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Why you always stealing my stuff? You got on my
shades right now. I was looking for those shades for
a year and your ass took them, and you're held
on to them, and you never returned them, and then
convinced me that I must have lost me. Did you
leave you in the rest of the worm, Did you
leave it at work. It's gonna be somewhere and you
had to ship all along.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Do you know the Knicks play the night and I
have to buy my own ticket?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
That doesn't ask my question about my shades?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
These ancient shades.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
One those are Cardier's. Yeah, there's no way on earth
you bought Cardier?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
We rich?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Who's we? You know?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I didn't even tell you that we bet on Carl
Anthony town tonight?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Who's we with?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
The company? Card with?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
What company called? Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Griffith, griffness man?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
You talking about one of my employees. Don't let me
fire somebody out here? So somebody gave you the company
called to let you book tickets on my dime.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Carl Anthony Towns thirty to night, and he better do it?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
How often have you been betting?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Every day? I make any day?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Every day? When the hell listen this habit start.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
FANDU oh this is a prize pict suhre but online
betting it's the thing.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
How often have you been winning? Because I haven't seen
a don you damn sure ain't give me none of
the winning?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
We rich?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
What does that mean?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
We rich? I'm not gonna bring you to you the
money I'm using yours to gain a little bit, and then.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Well, if you use your mind to gain a little bit,
why take money out of my pocket and not bring
something back so I could at least break.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Even so I can go with you to Dubai.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
On fraud when you're on the I don't know where
I'm going. I'm sorry, I don't know where I'm going to.
I know what I'm saying. I don't know where I'm going.
You know I don't tell people how I'm moved. You understand.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I'm just saying I want to go to so you
know house in Miami. When am I gonna the nephew
you always claim all through this book. I ain't been
in his house yet, and.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
You're not getting there. And I don't live in Miami.
You don't know where I live. You don't know where
I live because I won't give you my address because
you go show up with somebody that I don't know
or a bunch of people that I don't know, and
give out my dres That's the people ain't none of
their damn business. That's your problem.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
See why I said old and getting old? Who worried
about they address? And they getting out and stuff like that?
And nobody coming to.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
People who got something. People who don't. We rich about that?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
So we are rich now we're rich.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
People who don't don't. It ain't no we. I didn't
say anything about rich or Paul, I'm talking about the
word we. Where the hell you get the word we from?
How is that in the equation? When did you earn
the dome of my money?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I'm a smith?
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Oh that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
You a smith? So so because we from two oh third.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
So because of that. So in other words, when I
get a check, even though I'm the one putting in
sixteen eighteen twenty hours a day, you get to sit
up there and say, Yo, that's about we, not me.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I'll be with you. I don't be with you.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Know you know you showed up twice this week. It's
the first time I saw you about two weeks, prid.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Of that, the first time I saw you.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
In a month, prid of thatm the first time I
saw you about three months.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
But we speak every day. If you gave me the
money to an action, I be right with you. We'll
be following you around on to Miami. As a matter
of fact, can I get in an apartment in a
and the thing that.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
You we You can't. You can't handle the South Florida.
I didn't even say Miami. I mean we talk about
South Beach. You ain't ready for South Beach. You don't
know how to discipline yourself. You do you don't You
think just because your voice is smooth, you understand that
you will have some Dude, that that's all it requires.
(04:29):
You know, no woman wants to broke ass.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Dude, I'm I broke we rich.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Don't say we You didn't put into work. I did.
You're saying you got to earn your own tripe. By
the way, you're gonna be able to tell, honey, y'all
we rich, we rich. She gonna be like, what do
you do?
Speaker 2 (04:42):
What you think? They're saying that Bronnie James, I'm the
Bronnie James of the media.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Well he's only nineteen, he's only nineteen twenty, and you're
the Bronnie James of the media. Yes, and why are
you the Bronnie James of the media.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Because you walked me through to do we here? I'm
on TV. I probably don't belong or people. We feel
like I don't deserve it to be, but it is
what it is you my uncle? I'm here, Bronnie James,
number fifty five.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Drive hit who's about to be in the G League?
Or back to lys is already there going back and
forth between that and on the bench for the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
So the G League for the media would be what.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I have no idea on YouTube, I don't want to.
I don't know, but I'm on YouTube. Your G League
is not YouTube, or YouTube is not the G League.
YouTube is the future. G League ain't the future? All right?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
So I'm not first take because first take is like
you know how you say number one eleven years, I'm
not first take. Mama already me in the media, Bronnie James,
Bronie Josh.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
When are you gonna give your uncle some love? When
are you gonna spare me the stress of having to
worry about you and your and your siblings and your cousins?
And when am I going to get a break from
y'all with this attitude? We rich? When am I gonna
get a from that? When y'all gonna be like this? Yo?
(06:02):
Uncle Steve is calming up ding age, you understand, So
we gotta take care of him instead of looking for
him to take care of us when that gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I provide value. I don't provide value.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
What value do you provide?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Like when you don't wear suits right and you want
to dress how you want to dress, don't I tell
you that you dress wrong?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
No, because I don't dress wrong. I'm usually dressing right.
And you and here's my proof, because you usually got
on ship that was mine. You understand? And where do
you get this from? I mean, I mean this is listen.
All of us had confidence, but you on another level.
You you, I mean you you think that you could
just rock on shades in a hat and the women
(06:44):
are just gonna drool after you, like it's a privilege
to be in your presence? Where did that come from?
That didn't come from me, That didn't come from Uncle Bezil,
that didn't come from Uncle Frankie, that didn't come from Grandpa,
That didn't come none of us were that bad, y'all.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Y'all didn't grow up rich. It's your fault. Wow, twelfth grade?
Quite frankly, I'm working at ESPN. What do you think
I'm telling girls? I'm on TV? It was easy in
high school then right after that I should have went
to college. But I seen you, you know, I'm like,
(07:18):
he's gonna flourish. I could just skip college. I worry
about that later, and then I had to from eighteen
about twenty five the Women Women Women, Steven Ain't nephew
had a.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I'm stuttering. I'm at a loss of words because I
just heard something that I never heard from you before.
So you're saying that because you were in high school
and you was working for me when I had my show.
Quite frankly, you felt the need not to go to
college because you was like, Yo, my uncle's gonna be
(07:52):
successful and I'm just gonna get from him. Ronnie James,
you do understand how embarrassing that is.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I made it, though, how you make it, didn't. I
just tell you, I help listen all the turtlenecks and
stuff that he'd be wearing. I don't got nothing to
do with that. I'll be telling that.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
You do know that you're looking away from the cameras
to the incident.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Because I'm watching myself because you addicted to.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
What yeah, yeah, that's it. Instead of watching yourself on
the screen, You're supposed to be looking into the damn camera,
So you addicted to the mirror now like that, right,
What the hell you gonna do next? Get a permit?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
First of it was the Knicks code that I created.
That's a number one, number two Knicks fans want to know.
Even in the garden.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
All year, I've been busy. I'm coming into New Year.
I just had a lot of stuff to handle prior
to that, and I like the season of win. Then
I knew they were gonna struggle the first month and
a half of the season with the trade Carl, Anthony
Towns and Michel Bridges. I want to get them, give
them some time to get their feet under them, develop
a rhythm, some cohesiveness, and then when they're making their running,
they're doing what they do. I'll pay in attendance for that.
I'm watching them all the time though.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Okay, so when we're up thirty five, tell Tom Thibodeau
to sit the stars please. He's making me.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Nervous, making you nervous?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Really, yeah, I want to get back to what you
brought up eighteen to twenty five. Yeah, that age that Yeah,
and so what you were seeing is forget about good looks,
forget about smooth talking, forget about you know, just ingratiate
yourself with the honey and making a feel good. No,
(09:22):
but you was like, I'm Stephen Ay's nephew, and that's
what it did. Yeah, why because they thought you had money?
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Because you know, I seen, like I said, you flourishing.
I'm like, he's basically flourishing for me, like he's flourishing
for me. So what I would do was some people
didn't believe it, like Stephen a way and I'll just
call you. You never pick up, but your voicemail proved
that it was you, and that usually help closed the
show for me. Is this on TV? Yes? All right,
(09:55):
they can edit right, Griff, you're gonna edit up all right.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Oh my lord, I don't even know what to say
to you. I never heard this before.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
It's a Smith thing.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
It's a Smith thing.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Don't tell your business that's a smith.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I don't put the Smith name on blast like that.
First of all, Grandma would have killed me, you under said,
my sisters would have killed Stop it. No, that this
is you, you one of one. None of us were
like this because remember when I was on the come up,
I didn't have no money. Uncle Frankie didn't have it
like that, you know, Basil didn't have it like that.
Pops didn't have it like that. Cousin, Carl, Keith, Derek, whomever,
(10:32):
didn't have it like that. So you can't say that
because what you said, we rich, we rich, that's only you.
Nobody could say that before this.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
So y'all had y'all had the natural thing.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
We had the natural thing I have, but we we
but we didn't utilize it the way you did. We
didn't have the bad, vicious, insidious intentions that you had.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I wasn't rich too. Once you rich too with the
natural thing that we got, did you got trouble? And
now I want to la Miami. We were gonna.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I will never allow you to Miami. You can't handle Miami.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yes I can.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
No, you can't. You can't. You'll be sitting up there
and bribing somebody to put you in coach in the
back of the plane just to get the hell to Miami.
Where you go do nothing but cause trouble. Now you're
not ready for down there. You're just not okay. So
try something else.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Super Bowl that's San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
You need San Francisco and New Orleans is a super
Bowl neither place. I mean, it's not a big deal. Well,
ring what you bring? No why why I thought you
had your own money? We rich right, So that means
that means you got yours right, You got yours right.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
I'm trying to get the content for you. Deon Sanders
running around with his kids.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Deon Sander's kids are stars for his program. You ain't
no star final program.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
To two of them is stars and one of them
just be doing stuff. I'm the one of them, the
other one not the football player. And to you, when you're.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Gonna grow up, bro, I'm you're grown. You're grown. When
you're gonna grow up, when you're gonna sit up there
and say I'm too old for this whatever this is.
And I just need you know when you're gonna do that.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
When I'm on the security team or I'm into control,
why would you be able to give me a You
are still childish.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
You're trying to fight nobody. What kind of security you're
gonna provide me?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
I'm I'm not fighting nobody. I keep them off, you
keep keep him off. You. So we're gonna go. You
said we're gonna shopping Thursday.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I bought you clothes and I put you in blazers,
shirt suits. The whole bit, and your bally wore any
of them because you're interested in looking like a damn
hood ratna.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
See, and this.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Is what Cardier's on.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
You got the soup yang, and I got the other stuff.
I need to take you shopping and then you could
take me to get a couple more suit stuck. And
I did grow out of it. I started working out.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Really yeah, And what made you do that? Me? Want
you tell the truth. What made you do that?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I know you work out too. You lost your you know,
you lost a little belly and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
I lost a little belly, belly completely gone. You understand,
you said, this is the this is what I'm talking about.
How come you can't give your uncle any love. I'm
fifty seven.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
I saw it in shape because I saw what Lizo posted.
And all you celebrities is just getting skinny all of
a sudden.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
And I'm talking about I didn't get skinny. You saw
me in the gym six days a week. I didn't
take that. I ain't take no medicine and all of
that stuff to lose no damn weight. I've been in
the gym. Dog you even got on me. You like,
what the hell's the matter with you. You ain't eating beef.
You you're not eating the burgers the way you used to.
You're not eating as much sugar and candy and all
of that stuff. You got on me about that stuff.
You saw me in the gym six days a week.
(13:52):
You have to sit up this say. I gotta give
it to you. I gotta give it you. But now
that the camera's rolling, you're gonna act like I'm on
someone zipic or something like that.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
That's the drug. That's the weight loss draw. That's the
weight loss drug.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Well, you don't take vitamins.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Vitamins, of course you do.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
One of them can be oh my lord every time
you're looking.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
So let me ask you a question. So let me
ask you a question. How come it can't be the
same for you what I'm saying, how come you can't
be taking something to supplement and to make it look
like you're working out when in fact you ain't.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
No, I mean, if I take all of this stuff off,
it doesn't even look like I work out.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Before I let you get on out of here, man,
what do you think about the Drake Kendrick lamar.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Joy about the then they got going?
Speaker 1 (14:37):
No, no, well, Drake suit Now, I mean, Drake is
your boy? No, he wasn't. I like him. I don't
get me wrong. I don't know him.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I know, but I went to the concert twice, right,
and you was like on a thing.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah, he asked me to something. He asked me to
take something. And then two weeks ago his team called
me and asked me to model these hoodies you're in.
But that don't mean wait a minute, I got number
respect for Drake's bigger, but that don't mean in any
way do our approval what he did with the whole
Kendrick Lamar thing. You don't get lawyers involved in something
like that. You got to handle your business. You got
(15:10):
to go in the studio, handle your business and come
out with something to eclipse, not like us. You can't
be getting lawyers involved in something like that. That's my
personal opinion.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
And I did see that you call Helocuja.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
To go well, be based on what ll said. In
terms of all the things that he said, they came
with it. It wasn't about just this rap game. It's
about how he's been transcended the test of time. He
was an actor, he was an entrepreneur, He got the
radio station on Syrian XM. You know, he's he's been
in movies. He's done so many different things, and a
lot of things that he instigated has been emulated years later.
(15:45):
Now some people like view it as better. But the
bottom line is it all originated from him to some degree.
We used to think it was run DMC with suck
mcs and stuff like that. We used to look at
Cool Mode. We used to look at Big Daddy Kane.
We used to look at KRS one, We used to
look at Eric being Rock Kim, all of that. But LL,
when you look at all the things, the diversity of
his portfolio, that is something to admire.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
So let me put the pressure on you because these
are your friends, LL or Snoop as far as what
they're talking about LL or Snoop because they like the
same level actors everywhere.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
See, I can't pick one. Here's why I think that
LL got the edge in acting. I think Snoop has
the edge and marketability what commercial doesn't he have?
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Right?
Speaker 1 (16:32):
You know? And not only that, I mean you doing
shows with Martha Stewart one minute, you got a Snoop
comedy toward the next, you know, you in movies you
in television show like that sports analysts for the Olympics,
doing the stuff with Kevin Hart prior to that, doing
Jake Paul fights and stuff. I mean, when you consider
the range of Snoop's marketability, I would give him the
(16:54):
edge in that regard, but in terms of acting, I'd
give it to ll And then as a hip hop
artist music, that's a tough one. That's a tough one.
You know what. I would have given it to LLL
by a landslide, believe it or not, just because of
how transcended he was and the range it could be
(17:17):
from I'm gonna knock you out. I need a beat
to hey lover, you know the phenomenon all of this
other stuff. I get that, But I was listening to
stupid you know, the other day. I had never heard
the song Mullholland Drive with Snoop until the other day,
like a few weeks ago, and that was smooth. That
(17:39):
was smooth. So it's a toss. I give the slight
edge to LLL as a rap artist, I give the
overall branding edge to Snoop, But it's picked tomato tomato
right right? But what what? But you're still didn't aswer
my question about Drake and Kendrick Lamar.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I mean, Kendrick won me over. I was one of
those people like I didn't get it at first. Mike Well,
is the hoopo about Kendrick, and he kind of slayed
the dragon for me. So I'm here, Kendrick won me over.
I'm a Kendrick fan. I'm Kendrick fan.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Okay, before I let you get on out of here.
Ruh m, you're gonna behave yourself, bro? I mean, are
you gonna Are you gonna get yourself right where? You know?
You ain't just talking looking the party and got ladies,
you know, drooling over these young Yeah, these these these
(18:36):
young girls. I mean, it's ridiculous. They look at you.
They actually think you're innocent. I don't know where the
hell they get this from, because you look corrupt as hell,
but they think you innocent. I just want to know
you know you you you you're getting up there in
age now.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
I'm gonna get married at forty.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
You'll get married at forty?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Really? And how are you now? Remind him?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I'll be thirty six on Fridays, all.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Right, so you'll be there? Yes, the seer six I'm.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Just laying y'all know, So when I if I'm ever
on again, I'm gonna let yall know what I had
got or didn't get on Friday.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Well, you're letting them know what you didn't get because
I ain't getting your shit. We rich, You get enough,
because you get enough, we rich. That's exactly the damn problem.
That's why you ain't getting that damn thing. I'm gonna
be gone on your birthday, so I won't be here
to do anything for you.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
That Apple pay he got every every electronic payment, and
he talking about he ain't gonna be here.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
How do you know I have every electronic payment?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
You got a cell phone, you got two cell phones?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
How do you know I have an electronic payment? How
are you tell him? How you know that? Because you
all in my business? Because you always all in my.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Business, somebody gotta be somebody got to be over your business.
I ain't shade room, but you know we related.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I can't believe in letting the world know you're my nephew.
I might have to erase some of this, y'all. This
dude is on.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Another level, right, Keep all that or send it to me.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Want your own show? Want your own show. It requires me.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I was gonna ask youhen I use a studio. You
don't be here like that.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
It requires work. Why it pays to keep the lights.
So you got to pay to keep the lights on
and to have people operating the jib and the camera
and and and all of this other stuff. It ain't free.
Everybody gonna pay for that.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Everybody that's here. Just pay them one extra hour per
time that you hear, and when you leave, I'll just
have a half hour show every day.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
What would you do with your own show?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Talk about what you might have been wrong about early
on first hit or on your show. I would keep
it in the family, cirtain.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
But how can they trust you because you don't tell
the truth. You'll sit up there and act like you're
against me on something just to get on my last
freaking nerves. You'll do that just because I'm your uncle. No,
you see what I'm saying. You wouldn't necessarily even if
you agree with me, it ain't in you to admit it.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
You get the camera over here, we naturally disagree. Because
you in your sixties, I'm in my thirties.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I thought you said I was in my fifties.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Fifty seven, I round or if we doing round, doofs?
Speaker 1 (20:56):
So that you forty?
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Who? Me? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Off it off? All right, Well I ain't sixty until
three years from now? How are you not forty until Friday?
Speaker 2 (21:06):
But I'll be because come sixty three years from now,
I'll be thirty six Friday. So that's over the five.
So then I then you go to the next zero.
I'm doing that right now with my kid. But yeah, Also,
so Friday is my birthday and you ain't the lead.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Grandma told me I have to take care of you.
Complete torture and you love it. Damn. She
I'm just sitting here. My useless little ass nephew is
sitting next to me, and they're thinking he the mac
daddy and all that. So you just sitting here, hit
the mic on or whatever, you know. Why did you
get on your uncle's last nerves all the damn time?
Why didn't you answer that question? For the public says here?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Why are you?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
It's like it's like you and and and your siblings
and your cousins, it's like y'all live to bother Uncle Steve.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Why, well, it's easy to keep me out of your head.
You know how to get you know how to get
rid of me. Send me to a nick game, Miami, Dubai,
wherever you were you gonna write it. Send you to Daba,
Send me to the bar.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
What the hell are you going to do in Dubai?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
We rich? Who's rich? Who's rich?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Why you always stealing my stuff? You got on my
shades right now. I was looking for those shades for
a year and your ass took them, and you're held
on to them, and you never returned them, and then
convinced me that I must have lost me. Did you
leave you in the rest of the worm, Did you
leave it at work. It's gonna be somewhere and you
had to ship all along.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Do you know the Knicks play the night and I
have to buy my own ticket?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
That doesn't ask my question about my shades?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
These ancient shades.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
One those are Cardier's. Yeah, there's no way on earth
you bought Cardier?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
We rich?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Who's we? You know?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I didn't even tell you that we bet on Carl
Anthony town tonight?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Who's we with?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
The company? Card with?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
What company called? Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Griffith, griffness man?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
You talking about one of my employees. Don't let me
fire somebody out here? So somebody gave you the company
called to let you book tickets on my dime.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Carl Anthony Towns thirty to night, and he better do it?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
How often have you been betting?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Every day? I make any day?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Every day? When the hell listen this habit start.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
FANDU oh this is a prize pict suhre but online
betting it's the thing.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
How often have you been winning? Because I haven't seen
a don you damn sure ain't give me none of
the winning?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
We rich?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
What does that mean?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
We rich? I'm not gonna bring you to you the
money I'm using yours to gain a little bit, and then.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Well, if you use your mind to gain a little bit,
why take money out of my pocket and not bring
something back so I could at least break.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Even so I can go with you to Dubai.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
On fraud when you're on the I don't know where
I'm going. I'm sorry, I don't know where I'm going to.
I know what I'm saying. I don't know where I'm going.
You know I don't tell people how I'm moved. You understand.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I'm just saying I want to go to so you
know house in Miami. When am I gonna the nephew
you always claim all through this book. I ain't been
in his house yet, and.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
You're not getting there. And I don't live in Miami.
You don't know where I live. You don't know where
I live because I won't give you my address because
you go show up with somebody that I don't know
or a bunch of people that I don't know, and
give out my dres That's the people ain't none of
their damn business. That's your problem.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
See why I said old and getting old? Who worried
about they address? And they getting out and stuff like that?
And nobody coming to.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
People who got something. People who don't. We rich about that?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
So we are rich now we're rich.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
People who don't don't. It ain't no we. I didn't
say anything about rich or Paul, I'm talking about the
word we. Where the hell you get the word we from?
How is that in the equation? When did you earn
the dome of my money?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I'm a smith?
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Oh that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
You a smith? So so because we from two oh third.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
So because of that. So in other words, when I
get a check, even though I'm the one putting in
sixteen eighteen twenty hours a day, you get to sit
up there and say, Yo, that's about we, not me.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I'll be with you. I don't be with you.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Know you know you showed up twice this week. It's
the first time I saw you about two weeks, prid.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Of that, the first time I saw you.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
In a month, prid of thatm the first time I
saw you about three months.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
But we speak every day. If you gave me the
money to an action, I be right with you. We'll
be following you around on to Miami. As a matter
of fact, can I get in an apartment in a
and the thing that.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
You we You can't. You can't handle the South Florida.
I didn't even say Miami. I mean we talk about
South Beach. You ain't ready for South Beach. You don't
know how to discipline yourself. You do you don't You
think just because your voice is smooth, you understand that
you will have some Dude, that that's all it requires.
(04:29):
You know, no woman wants to broke ass.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Dude, I'm I broke we rich.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Don't say we You didn't put into work. I did.
You're saying you got to earn your own tripe. By
the way, you're gonna be able to tell, honey, y'all
we rich, we rich. She gonna be like, what do
you do?
Speaker 2 (04:42):
What you think? They're saying that Bronnie James, I'm the
Bronnie James of the media.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Well he's only nineteen, he's only nineteen twenty, and you're
the Bronnie James of the media. Yes, and why are
you the Bronnie James of the media.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Because you walked me through to do we here? I'm
on TV. I probably don't belong or people. We feel
like I don't deserve it to be, but it is
what it is you my uncle? I'm here, Bronnie James,
number fifty five.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Drive hit who's about to be in the G League?
Or back to lys is already there going back and
forth between that and on the bench for the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
So the G League for the media would be what.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I have no idea on YouTube, I don't want to.
I don't know, but I'm on YouTube. Your G League
is not YouTube, or YouTube is not the G League.
YouTube is the future. G League ain't the future? All right?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
So I'm not first take because first take is like
you know how you say number one eleven years, I'm
not first take. Mama already me in the media, Bronnie James,
Bronie Josh.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
When are you gonna give your uncle some love? When
are you gonna spare me the stress of having to
worry about you and your and your siblings and your cousins?
And when am I going to get a break from
y'all with this attitude? We rich? When am I gonna
get a from that? When y'all gonna be like this? Yo?
(06:02):
Uncle Steve is calming up ding age, you understand, So
we gotta take care of him instead of looking for
him to take care of us when that gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I provide value. I don't provide value.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
What value do you provide?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Like when you don't wear suits right and you want
to dress how you want to dress, don't I tell
you that you dress wrong?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
No, because I don't dress wrong. I'm usually dressing right.
And you and here's my proof, because you usually got
on ship that was mine. You understand? And where do
you get this from? I mean, I mean this is listen.
All of us had confidence, but you on another level.
You you, I mean you you think that you could
just rock on shades in a hat and the women
(06:44):
are just gonna drool after you, like it's a privilege
to be in your presence? Where did that come from?
That didn't come from me, That didn't come from Uncle Bezil,
that didn't come from Uncle Frankie, that didn't come from Grandpa,
That didn't come none of us were that bad, y'all.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Y'all didn't grow up rich. It's your fault. Wow, twelfth grade?
Quite frankly, I'm working at ESPN. What do you think
I'm telling girls? I'm on TV? It was easy in
high school then right after that I should have went
to college. But I seen you, you know, I'm like,
(07:18):
he's gonna flourish. I could just skip college. I worry
about that later, and then I had to from eighteen
about twenty five the Women Women Women, Steven Ain't nephew
had a.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I'm stuttering. I'm at a loss of words because I
just heard something that I never heard from you before.
So you're saying that because you were in high school
and you was working for me when I had my show.
Quite frankly, you felt the need not to go to
college because you was like, Yo, my uncle's gonna be
(07:52):
successful and I'm just gonna get from him. Ronnie James,
you do understand how embarrassing that is.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I made it, though, how you make it, didn't. I
just tell you, I help listen all the turtlenecks and
stuff that he'd be wearing. I don't got nothing to
do with that. I'll be telling that.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
You do know that you're looking away from the cameras
to the incident.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Because I'm watching myself because you addicted to.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
What yeah, yeah, that's it. Instead of watching yourself on
the screen, You're supposed to be looking into the damn camera,
So you addicted to the mirror now like that, right,
What the hell you gonna do next? Get a permit?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
First of it was the Knicks code that I created.
That's a number one, number two Knicks fans want to know.
Even in the garden.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
All year, I've been busy. I'm coming into New Year.
I just had a lot of stuff to handle prior
to that, and I like the season of win. Then
I knew they were gonna struggle the first month and
a half of the season with the trade Carl, Anthony
Towns and Michel Bridges. I want to get them, give
them some time to get their feet under them, develop
a rhythm, some cohesiveness, and then when they're making their running,
they're doing what they do. I'll pay in attendance for that.
I'm watching them all the time though.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Okay, so when we're up thirty five, tell Tom Thibodeau
to sit the stars please. He's making me.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Nervous, making you nervous?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Really, yeah, I want to get back to what you
brought up eighteen to twenty five. Yeah, that age that Yeah,
and so what you were seeing is forget about good looks,
forget about smooth talking, forget about you know, just ingratiate
yourself with the honey and making a feel good. No,
(09:22):
but you was like, I'm Stephen Ay's nephew, and that's
what it did. Yeah, why because they thought you had money?
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Because you know, I seen, like I said, you flourishing.
I'm like, he's basically flourishing for me, like he's flourishing
for me. So what I would do was some people
didn't believe it, like Stephen a way and I'll just
call you. You never pick up, but your voicemail proved
that it was you, and that usually help closed the
show for me. Is this on TV? Yes? All right,
(09:55):
they can edit right, Griff, you're gonna edit up all right.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Oh my lord, I don't even know what to say
to you. I never heard this before.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
It's a Smith thing.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
It's a Smith thing.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Don't tell your business that's a smith.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I don't put the Smith name on blast like that.
First of all, Grandma would have killed me, you under said,
my sisters would have killed Stop it. No, that this
is you, you one of one. None of us were
like this because remember when I was on the come up,
I didn't have no money. Uncle Frankie didn't have it
like that, you know, Basil didn't have it like that.
Pops didn't have it like that. Cousin, Carl, Keith, Derek, whomever,
(10:32):
didn't have it like that. So you can't say that
because what you said, we rich, we rich, that's only you.
Nobody could say that before this.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
So y'all had y'all had the natural thing.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
We had the natural thing I have, but we we
but we didn't utilize it the way you did. We
didn't have the bad, vicious, insidious intentions that you had.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I wasn't rich too. Once you rich too with the
natural thing that we got, did you got trouble? And
now I want to la Miami. We were gonna.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I will never allow you to Miami. You can't handle Miami.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yes I can.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
No, you can't. You can't. You'll be sitting up there
and bribing somebody to put you in coach in the
back of the plane just to get the hell to Miami.
Where you go do nothing but cause trouble. Now you're
not ready for down there. You're just not okay. So
try something else.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Super Bowl that's San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
You need San Francisco and New Orleans is a super
Bowl neither place. I mean, it's not a big deal. Well,
ring what you bring? No why why I thought you
had your own money? We rich right, So that means
that means you got yours right, You got yours right.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
I'm trying to get the content for you. Deon Sanders
running around with his kids.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Deon Sander's kids are stars for his program. You ain't
no star final program.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
To two of them is stars and one of them
just be doing stuff. I'm the one of them, the
other one not the football player. And to you, when you're.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Gonna grow up, bro, I'm you're grown. You're grown. When
you're gonna grow up, when you're gonna sit up there
and say I'm too old for this whatever this is.
And I just need you know when you're gonna do that.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
When I'm on the security team or I'm into control,
why would you be able to give me a You
are still childish.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
You're trying to fight nobody. What kind of security you're
gonna provide me?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
I'm I'm not fighting nobody. I keep them off, you
keep keep him off. You. So we're gonna go. You
said we're gonna shopping Thursday.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I bought you clothes and I put you in blazers,
shirt suits. The whole bit, and your bally wore any
of them because you're interested in looking like a damn
hood ratna.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
See, and this.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Is what Cardier's on.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
You got the soup yang, and I got the other stuff.
I need to take you shopping and then you could
take me to get a couple more suit stuck. And
I did grow out of it. I started working out.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Really yeah, And what made you do that? Me? Want
you tell the truth. What made you do that?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I know you work out too. You lost your you know,
you lost a little belly and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
I lost a little belly, belly completely gone. You understand,
you said, this is the this is what I'm talking about.
How come you can't give your uncle any love. I'm
fifty seven.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
I saw it in shape because I saw what Lizo posted.
And all you celebrities is just getting skinny all of
a sudden.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
And I'm talking about I didn't get skinny. You saw
me in the gym six days a week. I didn't
take that. I ain't take no medicine and all of
that stuff to lose no damn weight. I've been in
the gym. Dog you even got on me. You like,
what the hell's the matter with you. You ain't eating beef.
You you're not eating the burgers the way you used to.
You're not eating as much sugar and candy and all
of that stuff. You got on me about that stuff.
You saw me in the gym six days a week.
(13:52):
You have to sit up this say. I gotta give
it to you. I gotta give it you. But now
that the camera's rolling, you're gonna act like I'm on
someone zipic or something like that.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
That's the drug. That's the weight loss draw. That's the
weight loss drug.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Well, you don't take vitamins.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Vitamins, of course you do.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
One of them can be oh my lord every time
you're looking.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
So let me ask you a question. So let me
ask you a question. How come it can't be the
same for you what I'm saying, how come you can't
be taking something to supplement and to make it look
like you're working out when in fact you ain't.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
No, I mean, if I take all of this stuff off,
it doesn't even look like I work out.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Before I let you get on out of here, man,
what do you think about the Drake Kendrick lamar.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Joy about the then they got going?
Speaker 1 (14:37):
No, no, well, Drake suit Now, I mean, Drake is
your boy? No, he wasn't. I like him. I don't
get me wrong. I don't know him.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I know, but I went to the concert twice, right,
and you was like on a thing.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah, he asked me to something. He asked me to
take something. And then two weeks ago his team called
me and asked me to model these hoodies you're in.
But that don't mean wait a minute, I got number
respect for Drake's bigger, but that don't mean in any
way do our approval what he did with the whole
Kendrick Lamar thing. You don't get lawyers involved in something
like that. You got to handle your business. You got
(15:10):
to go in the studio, handle your business and come
out with something to eclipse, not like us. You can't
be getting lawyers involved in something like that. That's my
personal opinion.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
And I did see that you call Helocuja.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
To go well, be based on what ll said. In
terms of all the things that he said, they came
with it. It wasn't about just this rap game. It's
about how he's been transcended the test of time. He
was an actor, he was an entrepreneur, He got the
radio station on Syrian XM. You know, he's he's been
in movies. He's done so many different things, and a
lot of things that he instigated has been emulated years later.
(15:45):
Now some people like view it as better. But the
bottom line is it all originated from him to some degree.
We used to think it was run DMC with suck
mcs and stuff like that. We used to look at
Cool Mode. We used to look at Big Daddy Kane.
We used to look at KRS one, We used to
look at Eric being Rock Kim, all of that. But LL,
when you look at all the things, the diversity of
his portfolio, that is something to admire.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
So let me put the pressure on you because these
are your friends, LL or Snoop as far as what
they're talking about LL or Snoop because they like the
same level actors everywhere.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
See, I can't pick one. Here's why I think that
LL got the edge in acting. I think Snoop has
the edge and marketability what commercial doesn't he have?
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Right?
Speaker 1 (16:32):
You know? And not only that, I mean you doing
shows with Martha Stewart one minute, you got a Snoop
comedy toward the next, you know, you in movies you
in television show like that sports analysts for the Olympics,
doing the stuff with Kevin Hart prior to that, doing
Jake Paul fights and stuff. I mean, when you consider
the range of Snoop's marketability, I would give him the
(16:54):
edge in that regard, but in terms of acting, I'd
give it to ll And then as a hip hop
artist music, that's a tough one. That's a tough one.
You know what. I would have given it to LLL
by a landslide, believe it or not, just because of
how transcended he was and the range it could be
(17:17):
from I'm gonna knock you out. I need a beat
to hey lover, you know the phenomenon all of this
other stuff. I get that, But I was listening to
stupid you know, the other day. I had never heard
the song Mullholland Drive with Snoop until the other day,
like a few weeks ago, and that was smooth. That
(17:39):
was smooth. So it's a toss. I give the slight
edge to LLL as a rap artist, I give the
overall branding edge to Snoop, But it's picked tomato tomato
right right? But what what? But you're still didn't aswer
my question about Drake and Kendrick Lamar.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I mean, Kendrick won me over. I was one of
those people like I didn't get it at first. Mike Well,
is the hoopo about Kendrick, and he kind of slayed
the dragon for me. So I'm here, Kendrick won me over.
I'm a Kendrick fan. I'm Kendrick fan.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Okay, before I let you get on out of here.
Ruh m, you're gonna behave yourself, bro? I mean, are
you gonna Are you gonna get yourself right where? You know?
You ain't just talking looking the party and got ladies,
you know, drooling over these young Yeah, these these these
(18:36):
young girls. I mean, it's ridiculous. They look at you.
They actually think you're innocent. I don't know where the
hell they get this from, because you look corrupt as hell,
but they think you innocent. I just want to know
you know you you you you're getting up there in
age now.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
I'm gonna get married at forty.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
You'll get married at forty?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Really? And how are you now? Remind him?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I'll be thirty six on Fridays, all.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Right, so you'll be there? Yes, the seer six I'm.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Just laying y'all know, So when I if I'm ever
on again, I'm gonna let yall know what I had
got or didn't get on Friday.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Well, you're letting them know what you didn't get because
I ain't getting your shit. We rich, You get enough,
because you get enough, we rich. That's exactly the damn problem.
That's why you ain't getting that damn thing. I'm gonna
be gone on your birthday, so I won't be here
to do anything for you.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
That Apple pay he got every every electronic payment, and
he talking about he ain't gonna be here.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
How do you know I have every electronic payment?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
You got a cell phone, you got two cell phones?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
How do you know I have an electronic payment? How
are you tell him? How you know that? Because you
all in my business? Because you always all in my.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Business, somebody gotta be somebody got to be over your business.
I ain't shade room, but you know we related.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I can't believe in letting the world know you're my nephew.
I might have to erase some of this, y'all. This
dude is on.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Another level, right, Keep all that or send it to me.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Want your own show? Want your own show. It requires me.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I was gonna ask youhen I use a studio. You
don't be here like that.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
It requires work. Why it pays to keep the lights.
So you got to pay to keep the lights on
and to have people operating the jib and the camera
and and and all of this other stuff. It ain't free.
Everybody gonna pay for that.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Everybody that's here. Just pay them one extra hour per
time that you hear, and when you leave, I'll just
have a half hour show every day.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
What would you do with your own show?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Talk about what you might have been wrong about early
on first hit or on your show. I would keep
it in the family, cirtain.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
But how can they trust you because you don't tell
the truth. You'll sit up there and act like you're
against me on something just to get on my last
freaking nerves. You'll do that just because I'm your uncle. No,
you see what I'm saying. You wouldn't necessarily even if
you agree with me, it ain't in you to admit it.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
You get the camera over here, we naturally disagree. Because
you in your sixties, I'm in my thirties.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I thought you said I was in my fifties.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Fifty seven, I round or if we doing round, doofs?
Speaker 1 (20:56):
So that you forty?
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Who? Me? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Off it off? All right, Well I ain't sixty until
three years from now? How are you not forty until Friday?
Speaker 2 (21:06):
But I'll be because come sixty three years from now,
I'll be thirty six Friday. So that's over the five.
So then I then you go to the next zero.
I'm doing that right now with my kid. But yeah, Also,
so Friday is my birthday and you ain't the lead.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Grandma told me I have to take care of you.
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.