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January 20, 2025 12 mins

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Now let's get it to the NFL playoff picks in
the divisional round kicking off this weekend. But first, my
next guest wants a long introduction, but he ain't getting it.
He's my nephew.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
I know. He introduced me to the word nephewtism.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
I give it to him. I give you credit for
that. That was a good one because I've never heard of
it in my life.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Until he brought it up. But this is what he is.
What's up, man? How you doing? What's up? Josh? You Josh.
Ladies and gentlemen, you like my sweater? Please please tell me.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
First of all, you're not sitting at my desk. You're
sitting at my desk on my studio.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
I'm sitting at my desk today, and.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
You're wearing my sweater.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Yeah, they gave me. They gave me a degree because
we're related. They gave you, Josh.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Josh, Josh, Josh.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
That sweater was not only in my closet, it was
in my drawer folded up. You went into my closet
and took my sweater out and wore my damn sweater.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
Well it fits me like this, so it's no way
it could fits you. So, I don't know if you
had it for show, but it looked good thought.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Look on me run dmc hat we rich? And what
were we talking about today?

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Listen, I'm gonna you know what, I don't know how
much you even know about football. You should know since
you you know, you raised practically raised by your uncle.
But nevertheless, we gonna get started. With the Texans heading
the Kansas City on Saturday to face the top seed,
the Chiefs. There's word out of Houston at running back
Joe Mixon injured his ankle this week in practice, so
he knows.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
What his availability is going to be.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
By the way, Josh, I don't give a damn whether
he's available or not. You don't have Stefan Diggs, you
don't have Tank Dell. As far as I'm concerned, the
Kansas City Chiefs are completely healthy, with the Patrick Mahomes,
with the Travis Kelsey, with all of these brothers getting
their rest, including Chris Jones and what have you.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Who can get at CJ. Stroud. By the way, I.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Don't give Houston a snowballs chance in hell of winning
this game.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
What does my nep you have to say about this?

Speaker 4 (01:55):
Nah? I got Pat Mahomes. You see the numbers. He
don't really lose this early in the playoffs. Like you
said that, the Texans are a pretty incomplete team right now,
and the Chiefs are reversed.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
I got Kansas City.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Got kid City. Yeah, all right, just hope for you.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
After all, you ain't knuckleheaded as I thought you were
in every situation.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Let's go to the next game.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
In THATFC, Jayden Daniels and the Commander's head to Detroit
to face the Super Bowl favorite Detroit Lions. Listen, this
is I think he's gonna be a thriller. I don't
think you, Detroit, and you want to be in a
position with it's a one score game, even if you're
up in Jadon Daniels has the ball in his hands late.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
We see what he's done this year.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Thirty five hundred and sixty eight yard sixty nine complete percentage,
twenty five touchdowns, just nine in the sceptions of one
hundred passer rating, rush for nearly nine hundred yards.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
The Brothers no joke for Jared Goff.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Look at the season he's had, look at the weapons
he has available to him running the football as well
as catching the football, and even though they had a
multitude of dudes on the injured list on.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
The defensive side of the ball.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Being in Detroit in Motown, I think spells doom for
the Commanders.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
What about you, nah, I got I got Jaden Daniels
with the upset and really got him going all the way.
I don't see nobody beating him. He's like a younger
version of Pat Mahomes to me.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
So you're telling me that you got Jayden Daniels winning
the Super Bowl Championship as a rookie, I do.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
What explanation could you have justified that?

Speaker 4 (03:14):
Thinking he pulled for he's the best clutch quarterback in
the league this year.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
You only got one example to use from him.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Well, actually, Patrick Mahomes has had more you know, game
winning you know TVs than Jayden Daniels, just so you know,
I mean go ahead touchdown stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
Yeah, Pat Mahomes heroics this year is more about the defense.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Jaden Daniels then came through.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
A lot, and I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna go with him,
Gonna go with Jaden.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Deans Coright, I'm gonna let you slide on that.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
On Sunday, the Rams had the Philly to take on
the Philadelphia Eagles. They're supposed to snow, it's cold, they're
accustomed to being in Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
I'm not listen.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
They got a chance because the Pooka nakool and Matthew
Stafford is a veteran in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Champion Sean McVay is a great head coach.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
But I can't see them beating Sakuon Barkley and the
Philadelphia Eagles.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
What say you, Yeah, I don't see him being the
Eagles neither. I got Saquan two.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Okay, say it with your chess man. You don't sound that.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
I didn't like the way.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
Jade on the quarterback look for the Eagles neither, though,
Jalen hurts, Yeah, I was watching first take earlier and
I was a gread machine and I just ain't like
the way you look, so.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Really, yeah, I ain't like it.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Whatever. Whatever.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Finally, the marquee matchup of the week, and Lamar Jackson
and the Ravens head to Buffalo to take on Josh
Allen and the Bills, the leading candidates for MVP this season,
by the way, both men are looking to get over
the hump and playing their first.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Super Bowl This is a pick them. This could go
either way.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
I'm of the mindset that you know what, I know
it's in Buffalo.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
It's gonna come down to the wire.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
But the way Lamar Jackson has looked this year, having
Derreck Henry at his disposal, King Henry as they call him,
I think the Baltimore Ravens might go on the road
and pull this out and we're gonna have a rematch
to the AFC Championship Game last year between Kansas City
and Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
What are your.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
Thoughts, are they, Flowers? Is he playing?

Speaker 2 (05:12):
They don't know. I don't think he I don't think
he will be.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
I don't even know why I asked that, because I
really do believe Lamar Jackson is fast enough to throw
the baller himself. Then he asked Derrick Henry too, I'm
gonna go with Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Did you just finish saying he's fast enough throw the
ball of himself.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
I believe he can. He's faster.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Did you say that on the airwaves?

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Let me move on to a different subject. I just
can't deal. I just some of the things you say.
I just can't deal with it, Dad, I just can't
deal with.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
It being that I have the bills getting stomped by
Lamar's always cold in Buffalo, so let's see if the
temp is looking So, let's see if the temp is
low enough to freeze some of the tears. Twenty two
degrees January nineteenth. How do you think that's gonna work out?
Am I supposed to be holding this?

Speaker 1 (05:55):
I'm I'm stuck on you grabbing the damn microphone working
up with that gas microphone and going.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Up to the screen.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Sorry, you didn't know that you ain't supposed to grab
the microphone.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
It's my first day on the job.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
First day, but you think you should have my job. Yeah,
it's by the way, what are you drinking? What are
you drinking?

Speaker 3 (06:16):
It's coffee? Had a long day?

Speaker 2 (06:19):
What you had a long day?

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Wait? Wait?

Speaker 2 (06:21):
How did you have a long day? Josh? What have
you been doing that you had a long day?

Speaker 4 (06:25):
I took the bus here, but you want to buy
me a car? But anyway, it's gonna be twenty two
degrees in Buffalo? Do people live here by choice?

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yes? Don't be rude to people in Buffalo.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
I would run out of mind to come and never
leave the house.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
What's the weather? Like in New York.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Right now, this is the weather for the rest of
the week in Buffalo.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
So we're gonna see how depressing it will be four
degrees on Tuesday.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
What are you doing for a degree?

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Pece what they got to do with Sunday's football game?

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Josh, No, this is this is this is Buffalo. This
is what. This is what they have to deal with
after the L.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
So you're talking about after the L they're gonna suffer from.
That's what they're gonna have to deal with. I mean,
it ever occurred to you that since that weather is
not foreign to them, they may be more prepared to
play in those weather conditions on Sunday instead of Baltimore.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
Nah, because most players are from down south. So when
once she won the Bills, it's like that's why they
when's last one they've been to the Super Bowl?

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Oh my lord, you are so clueless.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Men.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Sit your ass down over there. Get back to the desk.
Get back to the desk, just get back. Did you see, by.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
The way, what happened on the Eagle sideline Sunday with
why dot aj Brown on the bench reading.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
A self help book? Cult? Was it? In an excellence
by the Way.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
The book, originally published in twenty twenty, is now number
one on Amazon before I let you go.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
What did you make of that?

Speaker 4 (08:01):
I don't think it was a problem, like if he
was reading a Double Excel magazine or something like that. Okay,
but if it's called uh if that's the name of
the book and in the excellence in an excellence, he
was trying to tap into that during the playoffs, like
he only had what he had to catch one one.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Catch for ten yards. He had one catch for ten yards.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
I was I was gonna put my top three books
that I would have been caught reading.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Hold up, Make Her Chase You.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
So, so if anybody wants to know why I am
the way I am, blame Darcy Carter. It's a pretty
good author. Uh this is this is number three on
my list. Can we show number two, Make Her Chase You?
Part two? And can we round out my top three
really fast? Make Her Chase You Part three?

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Make Her Chase You? It's a book that those are
the books. Let me ask you a question. You've read
those books three?

Speaker 3 (09:04):
It's my bibles?

Speaker 2 (09:06):
What what? What?

Speaker 1 (09:06):
What did you learn from the book? Tell me, tell me,
tell me the tricks that the book taught you.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
I'm interested. Now you got it. You got my interest
piqued the book.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
Don't make it seem like I'm into trickery with with
the ladies and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Mate, you the one that presented the book.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
I'm saying, there's no tricks involved.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Now we're disrespecting Darcy Carter, the author that came up
with all of these methods on how to meet her.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Okay, so I'm gonna ask you again, what methods did
you peel from parts one, two, and three of the
book make a chase you?

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Well?

Speaker 4 (09:44):
I learned, well, she taught us to be appealing and
then to run away.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
You don't you know your advice to.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
Me is find a honey settled down. You know something
that somebody's pushing sixty.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
We say, see.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
Darcy Carter, you know, she she she she has different suggestions.
I don't want to expose it because I really support
her and I want you to go out and get
her book.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
You talked about, you know, making yourself appealing, right, how
would you say you've done that?

Speaker 2 (10:19):
What did you take for them?

Speaker 1 (10:20):
I mean, what is it that's appealing about you?

Speaker 3 (10:24):
You know?

Speaker 4 (10:24):
The shades that I get from your house, this hoodie.
I can't wait to see what they say about me
today because I really put it, put all of it,
all of this together.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Let me spend all the way around for them and
come back. I don't want try to miss it. Be
rich on this side of my you know. Oh, that's all.
It was a feeling.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
And did you just admit did you just admit to
the public you did run away?

Speaker 2 (10:48):
You run away?

Speaker 3 (10:49):
You just submit that you said run away?

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, you leave, you depart like avoid.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
Seriousness if I'm not ready for it. She doesn't believe
in misleading ladies into making them believe that that's what
you want to do.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
If that's not and you and you you would never
mislead anybody that says not you.

Speaker 5 (11:10):
Nothing about you that would do that. That's what you said, right, Yeah,
that's an open book. Well I have encouraged you to
be that. I don't know whether you've listened to that.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
You encourage everything, You encourage everything that.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
I don't encourage everything. Don't do that. Don't do that.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
And by the way, and by the way, I don't
know if you notice that your mama, your mama, Arlee Smith,
your mama, you know that she texts me the other day,
she loves, absolutely loves you on the shelf and I'm
sitting there like this, what are you watching?

Speaker 2 (11:48):
How do you approve of this?

Speaker 1 (11:50):
And you're his mother? What the hell is this world
coming to? I've said that to her first. She said, oh,
that's that's true. I didn't really think about it that way.
I'm gonna go and you know what, she's next. I'm
gonna go pray for him.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
So you're not gonna tell him that when you was
in a mall in Miami that they called you Josh
Smith's uncle. I'm no longer just known that stephen Ae's nephew.
That's not our dynamic no more. Now you're Josh Smith's uncle.
And not only that, I have a problem with Google too.
When you google Josh Smith, Josh Smith from the Hawk

(12:22):
still comes up. No, why would that happen?

Speaker 2 (12:29):
What? Lord help us all man, Get out of here.
I'll see you after the weekend. Now get the hell
out of here.
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