April 29, 2025 • 16 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Now let's get into the NBA playoffs, and I want
to just focus on the Lakers game for meeting with
the Timberwolves yesterday, just for a second. I because I
don't know if y'all saw what the hell I saw.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I don't know if y'all saw what the hell I saw.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
But that brother right there, I mean, I know you
saw nas Reid hitting the jump shot.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I know your saw.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
An man is his nickname, It's called Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
That's his name. He is twenty.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Three years old, and he is the best player on
the floor compared to Lebron James, Luka doncicc or anybody else.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
You want to bring the dipper.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
The brother is coming.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
He's coming, ladies, gentlemen, already in his young career. Last
year he swept Kevin Durant. Last year he sent Yo
Kich home in a Game seven in Denver. And he
is on the verge right now, and then Lebron James
and Luka doncik together home.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
That's what he doing. Forty three points twelve.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Or twenty three, shooting fifty percent from three point range,
fourteen to seventeen in the free throw line, the nine
rebounds and six assists, just one turnover in forty four minutes.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
This brother is like a shock in blood.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Infested waters, and he's about to send somebody called King
James by a few people home unless the Lakers are
gonna do something about it.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
That's where I'm coming from.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
But I figured my guests would want to talk about it,
because you know, you want you want to play the
roller NBA analysts. He usually just come on here and
have some fun and all less, but he want to act,
to hear an NBA analyst today, So I said, you
know what, fine, come on, come on, let's talk some basketball.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
You want to do that, Let's do that, all right. Nephew,
Josh's in the house.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Best looking man in the family.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
You don't have to be rude. You don't have to
be rue. That's not very nice. It's just I'm your uncle.
I'm I'm saying I'm your uncle.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
You know that's not what you say about an elder
statesman from your family, which, by the way, you would
have looked the way you look if it wasn't for
the way me and your mama and your aunt's and
stuff look. Okay, you created from somewhere. You get your
gs from somewhere. You certainly get your glasses from me.
I know that, but you're steal them all the damn time.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
So it's the money then that y'all didn't have. So
that's why I just look a little bit better. But
were we talking about? What were we talking about?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I thought you was the NBA analyst? Did you just
hear me talking about the Lakes?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
But what's your coaching? What are you saying about j J?
What are you trying to say?
Speaker 4 (02:37):
I mean, first of all, it sounds like the whole
thing that you just broke down was you're wrong.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I'm wrong.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Did you not pick the Lakers go to Franks? No?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Did I picked them to win this series? Though?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
So you're wroom.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Did you pick the Lakers?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Now pick Minnesota? When did you pick Minnesota? You see,
I ain't been invited in two weeks.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Picked Minnesota? That is a flat out law. You did
not pick Minnesota. So that's what we're doing now.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
As an analyst, you're gonna lie once I break down
why I picked them.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
So last year and Edwards lost to Dallas in the
Western Conference Finals after a tough seven game series with Denver.
Right this year, he catches Luca in the first round.
So when when he's coming down to court and he
sees Luca in front of him, Austin Reeves in front
of him, forty year old Lebron in front of him
(03:27):
with no rin protected. The tallest guy that you play
is is Finny Finny Smith.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yeah, Jackson Hayes.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
But he played seven minutes last night, meet me at
the rim. And then you got Edwards finishing with forty points.
Julius rind who's showing up. He's been hurt for the
Knicks to the last two postseasons, so we forgot what
he could do in the playoffs and here.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
You got it. We have three to one.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
We by the way, Jackson Hayes only played four minutes.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Yeah, not even seven.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
He only played four minutes.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
So what do you think of So what do you
think about a man man? And what you think about
what you see it from under this brother? I mean,
he's Jordan Esk.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
You realize he's the face of the league, even when
he says that he's not the face of the league.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
That's the reason he's the face.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
You think he's the face of the league over Steph Covery.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yes, and Steph is on his way out.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
No, he's not. Have you seen steph play? Have you
seen the play? He only got his way out? Where
are you going?
Speaker 3 (04:17):
So? So did you? Did you? Did you hear what
Paul Pierre said about I did not? What did he say?
Let's cut you with griff?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
How you called him?
Speaker 3 (04:26):
My producers to him?
Speaker 5 (04:27):
Anthony Edwards is not looking at Lebron and Luca like
you know. He he admired k D, but he ain't
gonna be doing all that with him. Then he ain't
gonna be doing all that. I don't think. So this
is something different like KD is one type of OR,
but Lebron is a different or than k D. And
(04:52):
he ain't gonna be shooting looking at all that yelling
and how you know? I just know I got feel
I just got a feeling. You mean you wouldn't, right,
you wouldn't. I wouldn't what you just said, you wouldn't
be looking at I already did that. I shaid you wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
What you mean, I already what you mean? And I
did it? When what you mean? When when showed me
pull it up on YouTube?
Speaker 5 (05:16):
And then you're talking about come out, I'm talking about
you speaking for another man and what he gonna be like.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Did they say that before the series?
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Before the series?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
So what what was your purpose of calling that up
just now?
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Because what he said was the way the way Edwards
ended Kevin Durant and was screaming in his face and
was you know, going at him. He thought that he
wouldn't do that against Lebron. James Griff cut to the
next video.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
You calling them for another video? What the hell you
been doing?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
It? Don looks like wolfing to me? Wolf wolf wolf,
wolf shove.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
It does look the same. This is it looks like
what he was doing to Kevin Durant. It's like what
he was doing to Kevin.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
A little bit worse because he added a little physical
physical to the Yeah, Wolf, who's not gonna do that?
So what you're trying to say, I'm trying to say
that that's why he's the face everything that y'all appreciate
about the old school, it was just bringing it back
on top of being able to shoot.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
So bet so you acknowledge that the old school is like,
it's like a model that the new generation to cat
should follow.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Yeah, y'all was more angry back then. Michael Jordan said
it is because they was doing cocaine and stuff.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
When did he say that? He said it on his documentary.
Don't like you ain't see it.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
He said, what that they were doing cocaine?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
You ain't see it. I saw it. I don't recall
at we can rewatch it together.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
You making stuff up? You making stuff up?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
So what's gonna happen to the Los Angeles Lakers right now?
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Five?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
They're going on five? Yeah, they're going on five. They
don't know five.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
By the way, let me see what you think about
what JJ Reddick had to say about not playing his
starters the entire nobody but his starters for the entire
second half, not using this bench once in the entire
second half. Let's see what JJ Reddick has to say
about that play that coat.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
You've certainly played well enough to win, and we gave
the effort to win, and you know, the not a
planned thing to play five guys in the entire second half,
asked him at the beginning of the fourth quarter. Told
them we had two extra timeouts. You know, if you
need to stob let us know. Those guys gave gave
a lot.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
H what'd you think about that statement?
Speaker 4 (07:31):
I think what I've been thinking all year that maybe
Gilbert Arenas should be the coach and not JJ.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
REDI Gilbert Arenas the coach.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Why is JJ Reddick the coach.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I'm just saying, what would make you come up with
the name Gilbert Arenas.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I'm not listening.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Gilbert knows his basketball, he knows about I'm not throwing
no shade on Gilbert Reathons, but I'm like, why would
you bring up Gilbert's name?
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Because Kobe has stamped Gilbert as one of those brilliant
basketball minds. And I think Lebron just stamping JJ Reddick
and y'all too, because he was on ESPN to just
all of a sudden too. I don't understand that JJ
Reddick love and fear from the world either.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
He's done a hell of a job, That's what I think.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I thought he did a hell of a job.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Coming into these playoffs, Lakers were a top three seed in.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
The West because you added a top three player.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Well wait a minute, now, even when Anthony Davis was
there before he departed, you were a top five seed.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Because he's a top seven player, like you said, But.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I'm just saying the point is that they did that.
They had been in a play in the last few years.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
And don't get me wrong, I love Darvin Hamm and
I don't think he should have lost his job, But
I do believe that JJ Reddick has done an outstanding
job up until these playoffs, specifically yesterday. You cannot you
cannot go up against young lions and young thoroughbreds like
the Minnesota Timberwolves, who are longer, who are very physical,
who have defensive tenacity, and you don't use your bench
(08:49):
at all. You cannot do that. You gotta play your bench.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
We're talking about JJ Reddick a Tom Thibodeau because I
believe Tom Thiberdeau should be the first coach up three
one during the playoffs to be fired. What he should
be fired right now? Because you know why? Next week
is the second round. We keep losing in the second round,
we know what's coming. Were playing the Celtics, So it's
(09:13):
about how are you gonna lose?
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Are we gonna lose? Because players are dying out from
the first round.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Why did Jalen brus Jalen Bruston broke his anchor yesterday, broke.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Breaking his fifteen points in this quarter. Was walking around
just fine.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
There's no medical diagnosis that said his ankle was broken time.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Why would you say that Tom Timberdeal got control of
this team for four years. How you don't got a
roster that you could trust past six players.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Nobody's gonna call him, I've.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Always hold I have called him out for that on many,
many occasions without the fire. But the fact of the
matter is your young whipper snapper self wouldn't know any better.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
You want a round.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
It really mattered when the New York Knicks were losing
so badly, we would have laughed the stock.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Of the whole damn league.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Now they winning fifty games a year, they're making it
to the playoffs and and they're losing. Listen, they beat
Indiana in the semifinals last year. If everybody doesn't get
injured and they down in game seven, they beat Indiana.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
And this year when they lose, because I believe they
would lose the Boston.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
It is the reigning defending NBA champions, who's one of
the top two teams in all the Bass, top three
teams in all of basketball. That's who they would be
losing to. I can't fire man based off of that.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
You're firing him because the players keep getting hurt because
you're wearing a mouth. Louel dang Is on crushes. Derek
Rose has been in a wheel chair since he was
twenty five. It's because Thibodeau doesn't know how to use
his complete team.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I didn't see Derek Rose in a wheelchair. I just
saw him a few months ago. He was walking around to.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Just find it's a figure of speech.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
You know, he's been out in and out of the
lineups for seventeen years, since year three.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
So you will fire Tom Thibodaux.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
So since Gilbert and read this would be your coach
in Los Angeles, who would be your coach.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
In New York?
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Either?
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Me?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
You? You? You don't hear what I'm saying. It doesn't
sound like I know what I'm talking about. No it does.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
It doesn't sound like you qualify to be a coach
at all.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
So you know who precious that you is?
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Of course I do.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Why is he playing zero minutes?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I don't understand, you know, as a start, that's just
that you should be playing.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
As a starter.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
He averages thirteen to nine ten games. That's a good
enough saying.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
As listen, he should be playing.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I'm not that, not that, but just because you're right
about a point here or there doesn't mean you're qualified
to coach. Even I wouldn't want to coach waiting for
I want to be well, listen, there's nothing that jump
all my money on these jackets and stuff like that.
Let me add to first of all, stop talking about
the money you spent a jacket, because one minute you
spending the money, and mone of the minute you're saying
(11:35):
that you got it for me.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
That's number one hours number two, number two. When you
think about this, you're talking about the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
What would you do differently that would what could you
do with this roster that would enable the New York
Knicks to beat the Boston Celtics.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Well, mister Robinson doesn't seem to be able to jump
twice anymore, so I would play him just for like
you told, you can get But you have to play
press the true. You have to trust the duce McBride.
These are players that you're trusted all year.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Duce McBride has been in the games, and when he's
been in the games in this series, he hasn't been
that effective. He had a good three yesterday, but for
the most part he hasn't been that.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Effective in this campaign. His campaign played seven minutes.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Campaign should have played more, especially with what he did
for you at the beginning of this series, no doubt.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
I'm hearing a lot of should plays and they not
playing anyway.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Fire somebody where is Leon Rose?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
What did you tell him? What would you tell?
Speaker 4 (12:34):
I think we I think we should shake stuff up
in and fire Tibodau.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Who would be the coach other than you if you were?
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Jalen Bruns is dead.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Rick Bruns okay, and the qualifications that he has and
I know he I know he knows basketball. Deon Sanders
is a coach, okay, So get rid of Tom, get
rid of Tom Timberdaux, and hire Rick Bruns.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
I feel like Tom Tibadau I covered in college.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
You're not covered them with ye exactly.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
And I feel like Tom Thibodeau changed our you know,
our mentality and stuff like that. You did your job,
You did what Mark Jackson did for Golden State.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
How then't you didn't mentioned hiring Mark Jackson, you.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Know, for certain reasons and stuff like that. He's always
my favorite, but they never move on that. So let's
not even wasted.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Is there anything else you want to say before I
throw you off the show.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I mean, yeah, yeah, in't been out of the week,
and you've been texting me because you missed me.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
You missed your uncle so much.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Now I've been trying to. I've been trying to. I've
been trying to figure out on the internet. They were
trying to help me negotiate my contract.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
So yearly right, your contract, your contract.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
With who like I was our contract?
Speaker 3 (13:43):
You got one hundred. I wasn't aware.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
I wasn't aware that that that you were in a
position to negotiate a contract. So you were talking about
you getting advice about how to negotiate a contract with me.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Yeah, only because like on first take, it's like eighty
of like rotating and stuff like that. So y'all splitting
that big pot on here for the most part, me
and you.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Me and you.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, And what do you think you've done to deserve
money for me?
Speaker 3 (14:11):
For here?
Speaker 4 (14:12):
It's not so much what I think. I speak for
the people.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Well, the people are fully aware that you steal from
your uncle.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
You take my shades, you know, you take you take
other things. Okay, you go on trips, you book it
to my car. This is what you tell you brag
about this stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
So basically what you're saying is you've already taken my money.
You've already taken my money, you know, So why should.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
I have to give you anything?
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Well, since we doing that?
Speaker 1 (14:37):
No, no, no, since we're doing that, why do I have
to give you anything? Since you've already been taking not
my permission, by the way.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Because I'm tired of those rooms being out. And then
tomorrow's I got a skybox?
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Did you see it?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
You got a skybox?
Speaker 3 (14:50):
You're coming with? Who?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
You got a skybox with me?
Speaker 3 (14:54):
You can come?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
What makes you think I'm going to the game?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Right?
Speaker 2 (14:57):
But you talk about we said, I'm sitting court side.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
So we paid twice. No, I got a Skybucks in.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Well, you go to get the skybox all you want to,
but I didn't pay for that. I'm sitting court side.
You can say.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
From the last show, Yeah, she's gonna be in the Skybucks.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Come on, cool Keisha, that cool thing from Jersey.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
You actually really reached out to her.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
She had reached out to me. I answered, I'm here,
I'm gonna kick your ass.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
You reached out to that girl.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
She reached out to me, she said it.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Did you see her? Is she worth going to the
game too.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
I'm going on from the skyboxer you know Keisha and
the Skybox. Yeah, yes, my hat. How you get the skybos?
How to get the Skybucks?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
He get the Skybox. It's not free.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
They watched the show. I mean they believe.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
It's not free.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Josh.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I know, I better not see some ship on my
card that that that that for the charging me for
the sky by.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
At this point now I don't even need the card.
They'd be like, that's Stephen age nephew with the company car.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
I don't even need the physical.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
It's just you just canna handle it, like I owe
people in your name to be honest with you.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Sometimes I don't got the card. I'd be like, you
got it. I know you got it.
Now let's get into the NBA playoffs, and I want
to just focus on the Lakers game for meeting with
the Timberwolves yesterday, just for a second. I because I
don't know if y'all saw what the hell I saw.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I don't know if y'all saw what the hell I saw.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
But that brother right there, I mean, I know you
saw nas Reid hitting the jump shot.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I know your saw.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
An man is his nickname, It's called Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
That's his name. He is twenty.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Three years old, and he is the best player on
the floor compared to Lebron James, Luka doncicc or anybody else.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
You want to bring the dipper.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
The brother is coming.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
He's coming, ladies, gentlemen, already in his young career. Last
year he swept Kevin Durant. Last year he sent Yo
Kich home in a Game seven in Denver. And he
is on the verge right now, and then Lebron James
and Luka doncik together home.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
That's what he doing. Forty three points twelve.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Or twenty three, shooting fifty percent from three point range,
fourteen to seventeen in the free throw line, the nine
rebounds and six assists, just one turnover in forty four minutes.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
This brother is like a shock in blood.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Infested waters, and he's about to send somebody called King
James by a few people home unless the Lakers are
gonna do something about it.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
That's where I'm coming from.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
But I figured my guests would want to talk about it,
because you know, you want you want to play the
roller NBA analysts. He usually just come on here and
have some fun and all less, but he want to act,
to hear an NBA analyst today, So I said, you
know what, fine, come on, come on, let's talk some basketball.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
You want to do that, Let's do that, all right. Nephew,
Josh's in the house.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Best looking man in the family.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
You don't have to be rude. You don't have to
be rue. That's not very nice. It's just I'm your uncle.
I'm I'm saying I'm your uncle.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
You know that's not what you say about an elder
statesman from your family, which, by the way, you would
have looked the way you look if it wasn't for
the way me and your mama and your aunt's and
stuff look. Okay, you created from somewhere. You get your
gs from somewhere. You certainly get your glasses from me.
I know that, but you're steal them all the damn time.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
So it's the money then that y'all didn't have. So
that's why I just look a little bit better. But
were we talking about? What were we talking about?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I thought you was the NBA analyst? Did you just
hear me talking about the Lakes?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
But what's your coaching? What are you saying about j J?
What are you trying to say?
Speaker 4 (02:37):
I mean, first of all, it sounds like the whole
thing that you just broke down was you're wrong.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I'm wrong.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Did you not pick the Lakers go to Franks? No?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Did I picked them to win this series? Though?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
So you're wroom.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Did you pick the Lakers?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Now pick Minnesota? When did you pick Minnesota? You see,
I ain't been invited in two weeks.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Picked Minnesota? That is a flat out law. You did
not pick Minnesota. So that's what we're doing now.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
As an analyst, you're gonna lie once I break down
why I picked them.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
So last year and Edwards lost to Dallas in the
Western Conference Finals after a tough seven game series with Denver.
Right this year, he catches Luca in the first round.
So when when he's coming down to court and he
sees Luca in front of him, Austin Reeves in front
of him, forty year old Lebron in front of him
(03:27):
with no rin protected. The tallest guy that you play
is is Finny Finny Smith.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yeah, Jackson Hayes.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
But he played seven minutes last night, meet me at
the rim. And then you got Edwards finishing with forty points.
Julius rind who's showing up. He's been hurt for the
Knicks to the last two postseasons, so we forgot what
he could do in the playoffs and here.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
You got it. We have three to one.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
We by the way, Jackson Hayes only played four minutes.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Yeah, not even seven.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
He only played four minutes.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
So what do you think of So what do you
think about a man man? And what you think about
what you see it from under this brother? I mean,
he's Jordan Esk.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
You realize he's the face of the league, even when
he says that he's not the face of the league.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
That's the reason he's the face.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
You think he's the face of the league over Steph Covery.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yes, and Steph is on his way out.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
No, he's not. Have you seen steph play? Have you
seen the play? He only got his way out? Where
are you going?
Speaker 3 (04:17):
So? So did you? Did you? Did you hear what
Paul Pierre said about I did not? What did he say?
Let's cut you with griff?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
How you called him?
Speaker 3 (04:26):
My producers to him?
Speaker 5 (04:27):
Anthony Edwards is not looking at Lebron and Luca like
you know. He he admired k D, but he ain't
gonna be doing all that with him. Then he ain't
gonna be doing all that. I don't think. So this
is something different like KD is one type of OR,
but Lebron is a different or than k D. And
(04:52):
he ain't gonna be shooting looking at all that yelling
and how you know? I just know I got feel
I just got a feeling. You mean you wouldn't, right,
you wouldn't. I wouldn't what you just said, you wouldn't
be looking at I already did that. I shaid you wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
What you mean, I already what you mean? And I
did it? When what you mean? When when showed me
pull it up on YouTube?
Speaker 5 (05:16):
And then you're talking about come out, I'm talking about
you speaking for another man and what he gonna be like.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Did they say that before the series?
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Before the series?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
So what what was your purpose of calling that up
just now?
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Because what he said was the way the way Edwards
ended Kevin Durant and was screaming in his face and
was you know, going at him. He thought that he
wouldn't do that against Lebron. James Griff cut to the
next video.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
You calling them for another video? What the hell you
been doing?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
It? Don looks like wolfing to me? Wolf wolf wolf,
wolf shove.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
It does look the same. This is it looks like
what he was doing to Kevin Durant. It's like what
he was doing to Kevin.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
A little bit worse because he added a little physical
physical to the Yeah, Wolf, who's not gonna do that?
So what you're trying to say, I'm trying to say
that that's why he's the face everything that y'all appreciate
about the old school, it was just bringing it back
on top of being able to shoot.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
So bet so you acknowledge that the old school is like,
it's like a model that the new generation to cat
should follow.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Yeah, y'all was more angry back then. Michael Jordan said
it is because they was doing cocaine and stuff.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
When did he say that? He said it on his documentary.
Don't like you ain't see it.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
He said, what that they were doing cocaine?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
You ain't see it. I saw it. I don't recall
at we can rewatch it together.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
You making stuff up? You making stuff up?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
So what's gonna happen to the Los Angeles Lakers right now?
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Five?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
They're going on five? Yeah, they're going on five. They
don't know five.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
By the way, let me see what you think about
what JJ Reddick had to say about not playing his
starters the entire nobody but his starters for the entire
second half, not using this bench once in the entire
second half. Let's see what JJ Reddick has to say
about that play that coat.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
You've certainly played well enough to win, and we gave
the effort to win, and you know, the not a
planned thing to play five guys in the entire second half,
asked him at the beginning of the fourth quarter. Told
them we had two extra timeouts. You know, if you
need to stob let us know. Those guys gave gave
a lot.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
H what'd you think about that statement?
Speaker 4 (07:31):
I think what I've been thinking all year that maybe
Gilbert Arenas should be the coach and not JJ.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
REDI Gilbert Arenas the coach.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Why is JJ Reddick the coach.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I'm just saying, what would make you come up with
the name Gilbert Arenas.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I'm not listening.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Gilbert knows his basketball, he knows about I'm not throwing
no shade on Gilbert Reathons, but I'm like, why would
you bring up Gilbert's name?
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Because Kobe has stamped Gilbert as one of those brilliant
basketball minds. And I think Lebron just stamping JJ Reddick
and y'all too, because he was on ESPN to just
all of a sudden too. I don't understand that JJ
Reddick love and fear from the world either.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
He's done a hell of a job, That's what I think.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I thought he did a hell of a job.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Coming into these playoffs, Lakers were a top three seed in.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
The West because you added a top three player.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Well wait a minute, now, even when Anthony Davis was
there before he departed, you were a top five seed.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Because he's a top seven player, like you said, But.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I'm just saying the point is that they did that.
They had been in a play in the last few years.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
And don't get me wrong, I love Darvin Hamm and
I don't think he should have lost his job, But
I do believe that JJ Reddick has done an outstanding
job up until these playoffs, specifically yesterday. You cannot you
cannot go up against young lions and young thoroughbreds like
the Minnesota Timberwolves, who are longer, who are very physical,
who have defensive tenacity, and you don't use your bench
(08:49):
at all. You cannot do that. You gotta play your bench.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
We're talking about JJ Reddick a Tom Thibodeau because I
believe Tom Thiberdeau should be the first coach up three
one during the playoffs to be fired. What he should
be fired right now? Because you know why? Next week
is the second round. We keep losing in the second round,
we know what's coming. Were playing the Celtics, So it's
(09:13):
about how are you gonna lose?
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Are we gonna lose? Because players are dying out from
the first round.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Why did Jalen brus Jalen Bruston broke his anchor yesterday, broke.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Breaking his fifteen points in this quarter. Was walking around
just fine.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
There's no medical diagnosis that said his ankle was broken time.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Why would you say that Tom Timberdeal got control of
this team for four years. How you don't got a
roster that you could trust past six players.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Nobody's gonna call him, I've.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Always hold I have called him out for that on many,
many occasions without the fire. But the fact of the
matter is your young whipper snapper self wouldn't know any better.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
You want a round.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
It really mattered when the New York Knicks were losing
so badly, we would have laughed the stock.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Of the whole damn league.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Now they winning fifty games a year, they're making it
to the playoffs and and they're losing. Listen, they beat
Indiana in the semifinals last year. If everybody doesn't get
injured and they down in game seven, they beat Indiana.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
And this year when they lose, because I believe they
would lose the Boston.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
It is the reigning defending NBA champions, who's one of
the top two teams in all the Bass, top three
teams in all of basketball. That's who they would be
losing to. I can't fire man based off of that.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
You're firing him because the players keep getting hurt because
you're wearing a mouth. Louel dang Is on crushes. Derek
Rose has been in a wheel chair since he was
twenty five. It's because Thibodeau doesn't know how to use
his complete team.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I didn't see Derek Rose in a wheelchair. I just
saw him a few months ago. He was walking around to.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Just find it's a figure of speech.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
You know, he's been out in and out of the
lineups for seventeen years, since year three.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
So you will fire Tom Thibodaux.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
So since Gilbert and read this would be your coach
in Los Angeles, who would be your coach.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
In New York?
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Either?
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Me?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
You? You? You don't hear what I'm saying. It doesn't
sound like I know what I'm talking about. No it does.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
It doesn't sound like you qualify to be a coach
at all.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
So you know who precious that you is?
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Of course I do.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Why is he playing zero minutes?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I don't understand, you know, as a start, that's just
that you should be playing.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
As a starter.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
He averages thirteen to nine ten games. That's a good
enough saying.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
As listen, he should be playing.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I'm not that, not that, but just because you're right
about a point here or there doesn't mean you're qualified
to coach. Even I wouldn't want to coach waiting for
I want to be well, listen, there's nothing that jump
all my money on these jackets and stuff like that.
Let me add to first of all, stop talking about
the money you spent a jacket, because one minute you
spending the money, and mone of the minute you're saying
(11:35):
that you got it for me.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
That's number one hours number two, number two. When you
think about this, you're talking about the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
What would you do differently that would what could you
do with this roster that would enable the New York
Knicks to beat the Boston Celtics.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Well, mister Robinson doesn't seem to be able to jump
twice anymore, so I would play him just for like
you told, you can get But you have to play
press the true. You have to trust the duce McBride.
These are players that you're trusted all year.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Duce McBride has been in the games, and when he's
been in the games in this series, he hasn't been
that effective. He had a good three yesterday, but for
the most part he hasn't been that.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Effective in this campaign. His campaign played seven minutes.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Campaign should have played more, especially with what he did
for you at the beginning of this series, no doubt.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
I'm hearing a lot of should plays and they not
playing anyway.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Fire somebody where is Leon Rose?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
What did you tell him? What would you tell?
Speaker 4 (12:34):
I think we I think we should shake stuff up
in and fire Tibodau.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Who would be the coach other than you if you were?
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Jalen Bruns is dead.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Rick Bruns okay, and the qualifications that he has and
I know he I know he knows basketball. Deon Sanders
is a coach, okay, So get rid of Tom, get
rid of Tom Timberdaux, and hire Rick Bruns.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
I feel like Tom Tibadau I covered in college.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
You're not covered them with ye exactly.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
And I feel like Tom Thibodeau changed our you know,
our mentality and stuff like that. You did your job,
You did what Mark Jackson did for Golden State.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
How then't you didn't mentioned hiring Mark Jackson, you.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Know, for certain reasons and stuff like that. He's always
my favorite, but they never move on that. So let's
not even wasted.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Is there anything else you want to say before I
throw you off the show.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I mean, yeah, yeah, in't been out of the week,
and you've been texting me because you missed me.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
You missed your uncle so much.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Now I've been trying to. I've been trying to. I've
been trying to figure out on the internet. They were
trying to help me negotiate my contract.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
So yearly right, your contract, your contract.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
With who like I was our contract?
Speaker 3 (13:43):
You got one hundred. I wasn't aware.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
I wasn't aware that that that you were in a
position to negotiate a contract. So you were talking about
you getting advice about how to negotiate a contract with me.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Yeah, only because like on first take, it's like eighty
of like rotating and stuff like that. So y'all splitting
that big pot on here for the most part, me
and you.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Me and you.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, And what do you think you've done to deserve
money for me?
Speaker 3 (14:11):
For here?
Speaker 4 (14:12):
It's not so much what I think. I speak for
the people.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Well, the people are fully aware that you steal from
your uncle.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
You take my shades, you know, you take you take
other things. Okay, you go on trips, you book it
to my car. This is what you tell you brag
about this stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
So basically what you're saying is you've already taken my money.
You've already taken my money, you know, So why should.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
I have to give you anything?
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Well, since we doing that?
Speaker 1 (14:37):
No, no, no, since we're doing that, why do I have
to give you anything? Since you've already been taking not
my permission, by the way.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Because I'm tired of those rooms being out. And then
tomorrow's I got a skybox?
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Did you see it?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
You got a skybox?
Speaker 3 (14:50):
You're coming with? Who?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
You got a skybox with me?
Speaker 3 (14:54):
You can come?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
What makes you think I'm going to the game?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Right?
Speaker 2 (14:57):
But you talk about we said, I'm sitting court side.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
So we paid twice. No, I got a Skybucks in.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Well, you go to get the skybox all you want to,
but I didn't pay for that. I'm sitting court side.
You can say.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
From the last show, Yeah, she's gonna be in the Skybucks.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Come on, cool Keisha, that cool thing from Jersey.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
You actually really reached out to her.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
She had reached out to me. I answered, I'm here,
I'm gonna kick your ass.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
You reached out to that girl.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
She reached out to me, she said it.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Did you see her? Is she worth going to the
game too.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
I'm going on from the skyboxer you know Keisha and
the Skybox. Yeah, yes, my hat. How you get the skybos?
How to get the Skybucks?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
He get the Skybox. It's not free.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
They watched the show. I mean they believe.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
It's not free.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Josh.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I know, I better not see some ship on my
card that that that that for the charging me for
the sky by.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
At this point now I don't even need the card.
They'd be like, that's Stephen age nephew with the company car.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
I don't even need the physical.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
It's just you just canna handle it, like I owe
people in your name to be honest with you.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Sometimes I don't got the card. I'd be like, you
got it. I know you got it.
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