December 10, 2025 • 46 mins
This week, we’re joined by pop-culture host and social-media firecracker Jess Lucero, aka JessTheReporter—your internet bestie who somehow turned interviewing celebrities into a full-time vibe. Jess brings her signature mix of red-carpet energy and TikTok-level chaos as we dive into the universal question: Did we actually peak in high school, or were those just our cringe-era training wheels?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can I ask you something morbid? What do you think
when you're going up into the sky?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
No, the reason is because I had an emergency landing.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
This is morbid. Yes, I thought I was gonna die.
Speaker 4 (00:10):
But do you think celebrity culture is signed?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Who you are in high school doesn't always mean that
that's who you're going to be in Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I wanted to be an actress so bad growing up.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
So I'm John Johnas And how was he? She's like,
he's so cool. I'm like Colin.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
My name is Curly and I'm Maya.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
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Speaker 1 (00:38):
Terrible love advice.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
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Speaker 1 (00:43):
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Speaker 4 (00:44):
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Speaker 1 (00:46):
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Speaker 4 (00:55):
Welcome to another episode of The Super Secret Bestie Club Podcast.
We have just the reform order here. How are you?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Oh good? How are you too good?
Speaker 4 (01:06):
We just came from Universal.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I just came from Universal and business is so weird.
I was literally on the Mummy ride like thirty minutes ago.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
And.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
We also are side, all of us, but I'm barely breathing.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
I love that Fraser.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Yes so hot.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
He's so hot, and I'm so happy that he came
back into our world, like just unproblematic, like just so happy,
sweet angel. Physically, we missed you, you know, Okay, So
for those of us listening to for those of you
listening today, Jess Lucetto is a pop culture host and
social media firecracker whose whole vibe is your Internet best
of your interview celebrities for fun. Known as just the
(01:50):
Reporter by the way, if you're like that's not true.
Known as just the Reporter, she mixes red carpet energy
with TikTok chaos, bringing quick wit, bright personality, and behind
the scenes tea to every corner of the Internet.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Did you chat that?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
No?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
That we got messages being like.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yeah, I personally use it a lot. I literally was
just saying like ways to creep on your ex Like
not that I do that. I just somebody told me
that the way that they creep on their eggs is
they stub access to their Spotify account so they can
search up their name and they can screenshot because you
have a playlist that's called on repeat, so it's your
most repeated songs that you listen to. That So my
(02:35):
friend screenshots this playlist and then he puts it into
chat gybt and he asks it, what is she going
through right now? What is happening in her life? Is
that amazing?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
She's going through a mental breakdown?
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Mine is literally the Moana soundtracks. Yeah, the time of
my life. Say you're welcome.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
What I've been listening to? I mean, yeah, right now,
say with me for sure?
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Eighteens is on there for men is eighteens.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Gym class heroes right now?
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Cupid chokel.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
About number one.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
That was just what I was listening to as I
pulled up.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Typing on repeat.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
I'm scared. Okay, it's fine, we're bestie. So I'm going
to tell you, Oh, I knew this Pink Pony Club
because it's my flight song. So I used to be
so afraid of flying. And so I don't know if
you guys have seen anyone but you with Sydney Swooney
and Glen Powell. So Glen Powell, his character needed a
(03:55):
song to like help him get through things that he
was afraid of and it was your bedding field unwritten.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Okay, yeah, I think.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
That was it in one of her songs.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
And then my song became Pink Pony Clubs.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
So whenever flight the flight gets ready to take off,
I started playing Pink Pony club.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Doesn't make you really happy, Like.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
I don't even know what it is. It's just like
everything about it is perfect. First of all, the song
is amazing, but it's so fun.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
It also kind of sounds like you're in a video
game and I play Mario Kart. During takeoff too, I.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Thought I got my something morbid. What do you think
when you're going up into the sky.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
No, the reason is because I had an emergency landing.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
This is morbid. Yeah, I thought I was going to die.
But we were good.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
We landed safely, but it was there was like a mechanical.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Issue with the plane. That's what scared the ship out
of me.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
So now you can't Now you're just like you don't
trust them.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I don't trust playing.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
It was like three years ago, so I'm better now.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
But it took me like two months, two years. It
took me a minute.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
That's crazy. I would blast that being pony close right.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I literally like every time I get on a plane,
you I think almost everybody thinks that, like, is this
something that's going to be my last? But I look
around and I'm like, I don't want to die next
to that guy. I don't want to go to And
so I'll find somebody that I'm like, I'll band next
to them. It's all good, you know, like somebody who's
like a little bit more chilling.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
That's the thing.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
I look around and I'm like, is anyone else freaking out?
No one else is panicked. I'm like, it's just on
the inside. They're like anyone else?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah, yeah, more people than you think panic. Like the
last light I was on, there was a girl who
I think of Southwest, and I think I can when
the girls happy that a gay guy is going to
sit next to her, because I'll see the girl being
like me every time. Yeah. And then I come and
I'm like, is anyone sitting here? And they're like yeah, yeah, yeah,
they get really happy. And there was the girl. I
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could see her like kind of like like panicking, and
I wanted to reach out and kind of be like
it's okay, Like I'm you know, but I also didn't
want I don't know, maybe she.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Didn't want to make it worse or anything. Yeah, yeah,
but oh my god, that happened to me once when
I was flying to New York. This is my cousin
had to drive with drive to LA so that we
could fly to New York together because it was like
a big work opportunity and I was like, I need
someone to go with me. I'm not going to be
able to make this flight alone. And then we ended
up sitting by a gay guy. We ended up becoming friends.
She caught me down whenever there was bad turbulence.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
I was like, I love it.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
I want to see queer people like what a blessing?
Like yeah, I feel like and then we'll get into
like the whole thing. I think gay people, queer people
love humans, like love the humans so much, and that
like like you know what this comedian and wolf lady
She's like, I don't know that anybody loves Dick one
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and gay guys do. Like gay guys are so and
like as with our girls were so like, oh my god,
you guys are so beautiful, like your hair you're out,
but your nails like we really celebrate it. And then
even lesbians are so caring and like, I got you,
I'll take care of you. Like we really want to
so true.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
You know in the world, like take their rights away.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Yeah, exactly what. We just love you guys to make
behind us. I dare you exactly, Like it's just so wild.
I'm like, man, we just want to love on people.
And you know, but we did want to bring you
on because we love that you talk about celebrity culture,
and celebrity culture is just you know, sometimes people are
like it's dying out. It's you know, it's not a
(07:30):
thing anymore. It's like the dawn of the influencer. But
even the influencer is kind of changing in terms of
what people want. But we thought it was kind of
funny that we were like, what was the original celebrity
culture and we were thinking high school and junior high or.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
High elementary school.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
So trippy to think about.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
I mean, I was talking maya like when I was
a kid, when I was in high school and I
was a freshman, I remember going down to being in
the hallway and I was next to one of the
really popular girls and we were both Latin, know, so
when we were leaving each other, we were like all right, bye,
and we kissed each other and we walked away, and
I remember people saw me kiss her and they were like, oh,
(08:08):
he's in with the in crowd. Oh, And it was
like this weird thing that I was like, well, we're cool,
like we're getting to know each other, but we're not
like locked in. Yeah. But it's funny because people like
I think I was sung, Like, I think that feels
like very Hollywood now, where people go like I saw
her next to like Beyonce and she must be you know,
like you kind.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Of oh my god.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
No.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
So true because actually that reminds me, well, I will
talk about the high school thing, but it reminds me
of when I've gone to some of these premieres for example. Yeah,
I don't know how often you guys are going to these,
but first of all, the premieres are a whole story
and themselves.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
But sometimes when you leave these premiers.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
There will be a squad of people taking photos of
celebrities as they're leaving, or like influencers even as they're leaving,
and they'll come up to me. Sometimes they'll know my name.
Sometimes they'll just be like, can I get a photo
with you? Just because they see what I'm talking out of.
It's that same vibe. Sudden They're like, well you must
be cool yeah, and they later yeah yeah yeah, like
(09:08):
they'll chat.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
With me. Yeah. But like I feel like the whole
fame game and the whole stuff too. I learned it
and kind of like I learned it like in high school.
Like I compared it so much to high school, where
I'm like, oh, yeah, we had our popular girls. We
had our popular guys that we were like, oh my god,
throw and Throw said this, they're dating each other. Oh
they broke up like they were the ones that we
were really invested in.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
It's so true because there was also those apps that
you would have where they were like anonymous. It was
like ask FM in high school, and so people go
to that and like talk about the couples that were
hooking up or getting together or cheating on each other whatever,
and it's like that's that's tabloids.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
You know, that was absolutely what you're high school? Yeah, thirteen, Wow,
are you a game?
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Eleven?
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Okay, I'm the older one here, I'm the five. I
was like, yeah, no, but I but no, But you're
right though, Army for us, I think we were at
the beginning with the well the grandfathers of the Internet,
you know, like we Facebook, We had we have this
thing called Friendster.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
I was.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
The logo Yes.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Francer gay Births to MySpace, and then my Space gave
birth to Facebook, and then it was just all down here.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Did you ever get in trouble for having an account?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
No? I like literally, like I was saying, like we
were talking about who the celebrities were in high school,
and my archetype was like I was the nerdy gig guy.
But something very early on made it so that I
learned how to be funny. I loved to stand up
comedy growing up, so I would learn from the comedians
and I would come back on Monday and I would
know how to like talk shit back, and I knew timing,
(10:44):
and so it defended it protected me in a lot
of ways. But I became like, and I had to
unlearn this as I got older, that I didn't need
to be the sassy, mean gig guy all the time.
But at the time I was, I was quick with it,
like so fast, and I became the gay guy. So
like schools and other people would be like, well, that's
the gay guy from yeah, where they knew, and I
(11:06):
remember there were a group of other gay kids that
weren't out, and I used to get pissed. I used
to be like, you guys are leaving me out here
by myself, and I have to be the one that
bears it, so I have to be really tough and zassy.
But I loved it. I had big, curly hair, I
was really into my spice. I had like big big shoes. Well,
(11:26):
I was like, if the intention is going to be
on me, I gotta work it. I gotta rock it.
And then now that I'm an adult, I'm like, oh no, Like,
let me like wear my headie and just chill. I've
done my time.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Wait, this is so so you've always been cool.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
I feel like, yeah, my literally, I just had I
just had dinner with one of my friends in high school,
like one of my seas in high school, and she
was and I didn't know this either, but she was
like you, she was saying her husband, she's like curly.
Being so open about being gay liberated all of us
to be ourselves. And I had no idea that that
was the way that they felt. And because I was
from Hollywood and I went to high school in Burbank,
(12:02):
and the culture shock of the two cities or towns whatever,
the city in the town was a lot for me.
And so Anna was like, you thought you were better
than everybody, And I was like, I was better than everybody.
What do you mean? I'm not from a suburb. I'm
from fucking Hollywood, you.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Know, actually from la first of all.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Actually yes, but you know, I enjoyed it, like I did.
I was prom king by the two.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Really different to me, my story, How how are you
in high school? I was like in high school. This
was when like YouTube was really big, right, like iconic,
like Awson at the time, like rand A Cycent, Jeffrey Yeah, Jeffree.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Stars, Jeffrey Moore, Jeffrey Marbles.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
What's her name is, Jenna Marble?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Marble? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (12:50):
And so I really wanted to be a YouTuber. So
because I started like my in the moment, like my blog,
a blog and YouTube channel in two thousand and nine
when I was like fifteen sixty and so I people
used to make fun of me because I had a
brand already. They used to be like, oh, in the
moment and tell me why. Those people like nowadays were like,
oh my gosh, yeah, I knew her in high school.
(13:11):
I'm like, you made fun of me. So I was
like kind of sticking a camera in everybody's faces and
being like, what do you want to do before you die?
Like you know, like there was I came out of
a bucket list. Yeah, like what's your bucket list? And
so I like wanted to be in theater, but like
the theater teacher only cast people who he was like
(13:33):
attracted to. So yes, so I never got cast in
like main roles, which okay, and so I just was
kind of like an artsy team but like very much
like quirky and didn't I was not super popular at all.
(13:54):
I think people just kind of didn't know where to
place me because I like wasn't really smart, right, But
I played the viola and the band, the marching band
was really popular. Those were our popular people. Marching band
in theater. Wait where did you grow up in Phoenix, Arizona?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
And marching band is popular?
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Marching band was popular. Like the football team sucked, so
no one would go to see the football team. They
would go to see the marching band, like smoking a
stag like and nobody liked the orchestra viola. Yeah, I
was the president of the orchestra chair a.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah, also years you know, two seniors.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
My first year. I don't even know about any of that.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Yeah, you got it.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
I was like the best out of like the two seniors,
so much like at lunch every day we'd go into
the practice room and play piano and everything. So I
was very like secluded and like just kind of cut
myself off because I just was like by yourself, like, m.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
How are you when you were in high school?
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Like so much more relatable over here.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I can't It was not at all. I'm not even close.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
No.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
I was just like.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I I was so quiet, which like naturally I'm not
really a quiet person. So if I'm quiet, I'm probably
like analyzing the rule I'm saying if I'm safe.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Or like what's the vibes, what's your vibes?
Speaker 1 (15:48):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Reading everything. But in high.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
School, I played softball and then I ran track in
cross country. I always wanted to do theater as well,
and I did audition my senior year. Finally I like
built up the courage was care spray and I thought
it was so cool. Yeah, and then I was cast
is ensemble and I was like, I don't.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
I know, I'm not doing that, shom doing that even.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Christy or somebody else was Amanda Vines. I wanted to
be her so.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Bad but.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Quick summer like with that, like I also built up
the courage to like try and do theater as well.
I think my senior year as well. Cute and I
was doing like he's like I was the lead. No,
I was like just justph the technically dream coat and
I was like, oh my god, I win. I sang
and I did my augician and you know how they
put your name with like the it's your name and
whatever you get on a list or something. So I
(16:45):
was like, oh my god, I got cast as God
in this fucking thing, like clearly they But then I
went back and it was like Dad, it was g
A D which was just a celebrated ensemble and they
were like one mind. So I feel you because I
was like, man, what the and I'm gad, I'll go
back to the back. So I feel you.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Though you don't tell your parents, who don't tell anyone.
You're like, don't come.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
All my Hollywood kids, all my Hollywood friends, is like,
come see me. I'm gonna be gad coming. They all
shout over their flower. But okay, so then you're the
track star. I know, but I feel like that's cool.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
It was cool, except our team was so good that
it's like I was good for any other school, not
our school. And so it was like I was constantly
like b you know, not A but I would be
be I wouldn't be first, sure, i'd be second, sharit
ty vibe, and I wasn't like super smart.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
I didn't have like a solid core.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Group and I didn't necessarily get made fun of, but.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
I would be like left out of a lot of circles.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
And similar to your story, I was like checking my
dms and there'd be a lot of d ms from
people who still follow me from high school years ago,
checking in with like the oh my god, I can't
believe you interviewed this person.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Get oh my god, what were they like?
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Or they'll like send me gossip to talk about or
just like pop culture stuff to talk about, and I'm like,
this is funny, isn't Yeah, yeah, how it works out.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Yeah, you didn't want to talk to me back then,
but now you do.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I mean, I mean that's the thing too, like who
you are in high school doesn't always mean that that's
who you're going to be in life. Yeah, but I
do think you learn like a lot of tools. Like
I do remember like early on, like talking to the
popular kids versus talking to the musical kids or talking
to the sports kids. Like it was very different but
also very much the same.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I remember in middle school one of my favorite teachers
said something along the lines of how cool changes over
the years. So like in high school, there's cool, like
there's just people who.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Just have it and they're cool.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
But then you go to college and smart becomes cool.
And then you graduate college and you become an adult
and money becomes cool, and so there's like different levels
of interesting. So I still have a chance at being cooler.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
We're pretty cool now though, I'm.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Like good with where I'm at, you know, with who
I am at least thing that now as.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
I've gotten older, and I'm sure you can we can
all talk about this. Like working in the industry that
we work in, we know people with money, we know
famous people, we know munch of different things. And I
feel like with me, what I've noticed is I think
people who are grounded are the coolest to me. You
can feel it.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I agree. I think it's so important that everyone curly.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
When's yours? Where was yours? When did you have it?
Speaker 2 (19:36):
But you everyone needs an ugly phase and like just
like a lame phase. Yeah, so it sounds like we
went through our right.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I went through. I went through, but I rocked it,
do you know what I mean? So people would make
fun of my big curly hair, and it was like,
I don't know, and honestly, like I really went after
Scary Spices hard, and I was like, Scary House has
Gary Space has big curly hair, so do I s
garyu Specs has a tongue ring. I was at my
tongue feteen. I wear leftard. I would get in trouble
(20:08):
for it all the time in school. You can't.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
You should put it?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Oh my god. I like I think on an older person,
it's kind of like you should have left the two
thousands behind.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
I have to love that ship. I love anything.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Well, isn't it funny now that we're older, It's like
I just love things that make people different.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah? Yeah, I think it's.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
The coolest one people have.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
I don't know, like a septum piercing or just like
a tongue piercing whatever, a.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Weird voice, like something like big glasses, like even like
I was telling Maya like there's this girl that I
know and she's so like movie scripted like awkward, like hi,
and I love her, Like I'm like, oh my god,
she's so like yeah, you just like you find them
so endearing, but because they are authentically themselves, you know,
(20:57):
you don't see them being like, oh, I'm this or
I'm and I'm like I don't give a shit, like
what And I feel like in this industry again celebrity stuff,
like you're as hot as your current project. You know,
you can be of the moment and you can totally
be like, oh my god, I have this really good friend.
He is in the new JLO movie. He's in Kiss
(21:18):
of Spider Moment Yo, And we went into we went
to this party and people were like, you know, chilling,
like Hi, nice to meet you, blah blah. They showed
the trailer before the movie came out, and I literally
was like the lights came back on after the trailer
and the difference in the way that people were treating.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
The start of the movie he started the movie.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
They was so crazy to me. It happened like within
three minutes. Yeah, I'm like, oh, yeah, that's what happens.
But also with all of us, with everybody, the opposite
can happen, and so how do you ride it? How
do you ride that and find.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
But I feel like you would know a lot about
like what's cool right now right with the people who
you're interviewing, and like, is there a certain trend that
you're seeing or like, I don't know the kind of
like success that's coming out right now from the people
you're interviewing.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
You know what's This isn't even a trend.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
My brain just went here because I was like scrolling
through TikTok this morning.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
This isn't a trend.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
But I just saw this video and it's fresh on
my mind and it reminds me of just like how
authenticity is just so coore.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Now.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
So it was this gay guy who was talking about
how he went on a date with the woman.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Okay, yes, I just saw it today. I don't know
when he posted.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
It could have been over the week and whatever, but
he was saying that he had previously posted about how
if he reaches a certain age and he's still single,
then he's considering doing a lavender marriage, and the comments
were blowing up and women started dming him, being like
if you're looking for candidates, like I'm down, I would
love to. So he finally goes on a date, and
(22:53):
this was like months ago that he posted it, the
first one. He finally goes on a date, and he
was like, it went really well, and I was like,
low key attracted to her to where if I kissed her,
like I think she would have kissed me back. And
it was such an interesting thing to where I was
like so into the video just because I'm like, this
is cool that we're all just looking for companionship and
(23:15):
authenticity and like, I hadn't seen anything like that on
my for you page. I guess sure people are talking
about dates and we've all made packs with our friends,
like if I make it to this age, then we're
getting yeah, we're getting a dog like whatever.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
But I just thought that was so cute.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
I think it's the obviously the relatability, which is like
I feel like a word that we use so much.
But going off of that, there was this other guy
who was calling out his aunts and estheas and his
cousins for he found a group chat of them talking
shit about him.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Wait, I saw this.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
I saw this.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah, Oh my god, I send that to my family.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Yeah, and it's relatable because this year I found a
group chat in my theas talking shit about me, and
it's like it's yeah, I made a whole like live
musical show about it, like stage in March, from like
being so devastated to getting a standing ovation.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Was your family there?
Speaker 4 (24:19):
My parents were there. I don't talk to that side
of the family anymore because they called them out publicly.
But I feel like if like, I guess it's not
really a trend, but just like the common thread between people,
right is like the relatability and the storytelling of like
you know, whether it's love or lavender marriage or calling
it out. Yeah, And so I think that's why a
(24:39):
lot of people are saying celebrity culture is dead, right
or is dying, because they have such a mysterious facade
to them and versus like creators who just come out
and tell stories get more traction. Right.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
If you notice, when we first started scrolling on TikTok,
let's say like twenty twenty one or so, it was
a lot of come with me to go do this
and we're gonna get a hair dye together, and yeah,
it get ready with me. There was like an inflection
in the voice and like this influencer style of talking,
and then you slowly have began seeing that wall come down.
(25:17):
So like the Lavender marriage video for example, he was
just talking to you literally like Bessie's you know. I
was sitting there so just enamored by it. But like
you said, it kind of ties in with how I
think celebrities are at least are becoming or trying to become.
Like Charlie XCX, for example, just released her second sub stack.
I don't know if you guys, I don't read very much.
(25:39):
That's gonna be like I don't know if you read,
but she has been releasing these sub stack articles for
these movies that she's starring in, and so this most
recent article was talking about the life of a pop
star and how everyone wants them to be so stupid,
but you can't be a pop star for this long
(26:02):
and be stupid, Like it just doesn't work like that.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
But I was I don't know the last sub stack
I read.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
I sat there and I was like, this is good.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
And she was in another like Creator's videos, too. Yeah,
she was in These two guys are so funny. They
like have this they do this little skip. They use
like sound effects that you would watch in like a
sitcom like boo or cheering, so funny, and she was
like in that video and so I feel like that's
like I've been seeing a lot more like Mega Trainer
(26:31):
doing more videos with influencers, right and for very around fifteen. Yeah,
she's seen it all.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I was like barely coming out of high school and
she was dope like that. So I believe that.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
But do you think celebrity culture is dying?
Speaker 2 (26:48):
I think there is an aspect that people are over.
I don't think it's ever going to go away, because
you guys see it when you go anywhere in La
where if there's a I can't think of the macha
store that everyone's like obsessed with right now in Wueho.
(27:08):
But if a celebrity goes and gets macha from someone,
let's say Alfred's for example, how that became like huge
because they saw so many celebrities going there.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
It's still a big deal.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
So then they go to a celebrity goes to a
new macha spot. All of a sudden, the lines around
the corner. Like I don't think it's dying. I think
people are just becoming more selective with who they're paying
attention to and who they're actually following, and that they're
not just going to subscribe to celebrity overall, but they're
going to like do their research on who these people are,
(27:40):
and like why why do.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
I like Charlie XCX. Do I associate with her because she's.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
A party girl or is it because of other things
that she's doing outside of her Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
That's why I think that.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
For me, I did see this thing that was saying
that the pendulum might be swinging the other way and
that influencers are sharing too much and that there might
be a space to be like influencers, take your time
a little bit now, like have fun with showing bits
of yourself as authentically as you can. But like we
don't want it. We don't need to go with you
(28:11):
to dye your hair, like we can go and see
like I'm you know, I really want to like live
in up my look da da da da, Like I
haven't been feeling good about myself and here come with
me to like get ready whatever. But you can start
to be a little bit more choosy, But I think
in terms of celebrity for forever, I have like these
like four I think there are four rules that I
(28:32):
always say is like people should either want to be you,
look like you, dress like you like I really like her,
So when they hear your music or they watch your movies,
they can kind of wear you a little bit as
like armor. We saw it with Madonna, we see it
Lady Gaga, sab being a carpenter, Charlie XCX. You kind
of brats right like you can like do people want
(28:53):
to like sleep with you like they're hot, Like he's hot,
she's hot. They're hot. They like are like every time
they see you, are you their best friend? Like you're
just like, oh my god, I just love them so
much they love them my best friend? Or are they
like the Trisipades where they're just the train wreck where
you're just.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Like what they say keeps coming back.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Just like I was just talking about how like Trish
went from being like she said this, oh my god,
I can't now being like she just said, whether.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
You know, like boys will be voice, it's like will
be exactly.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Like she's become like the uncle at a party or
the cover ofever. You're like, don't mind them, They're just
gonna say what they need to say. Just keep us
little bit.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
I'll love her, I promise, just show up.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
But I also think that I think that that won't
ever change in terms of what people are looking for,
no matter who it is.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yeah, I think with celebrities, it's like people are they
are so blown away by the life that they live,
or even some influencers by the life that they live,
which is why the behind the scenes is.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Always so cool. That's that's the thing that I'm the
most fascinated by.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yes, the pop star of it all, but truly it's like, okay,
but how did you get to that point? It's really
just cool to me because I think it's something that
a lot of people think that they can do.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
They'll watch I've literally seen people when I've gone to concerts.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I've seen people be like, I could do that, I
can be her.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
So I'm seeing you.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
But then it's like they think that they can do
what these stars are doing, but there's so much more than.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
You realize, you know.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
It's like it's it's all the singing lessons that they're
going to and then they become actors later down the line,
and then they're right and then the outfits like everything
on the.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
Dance you're just seeing the final product. Yeah yeah, But I.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Mean how many of us are like in our car
or in the shower and we're like, you know whatever
it is that you're singing a Beyonce song or you're.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Singing like whole motivation.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Yeah, like you just thought, oh I could command the
audience like that, and then you don't think about We
have a good friend of ours who just went on
tour with Lord Empress of and she I remember when
she said to me, Curly, I'm gonna go take my
first dance class. And now she's like dancing all up
and down the stage and I'm like, I remember when
you didn't part of.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
A lipa peep with her?
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Now yeah, and all of a sudden, those dance moves
and know what.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
No one's talking about that.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
I selfishly ask you to like, who has been maybe
your standout favorite interview? Oh?
Speaker 2 (31:58):
I have so many, I have so many, true I think, Okay, wait,
can I give like a couple think? Okay, Joe Jonas,
I'm just like such.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
A second time every single day thing he pops up.
There's this Columbian pop star Ella and she did a
song with him last year called and I was just
working with her like this weekend and I was like,
(32:32):
so i Jonas and how was he. She's like, he's
so cool. I'm like call him. He's And then Jonas
was at this showcase thing that I performed at and
he was like, you're so funny, like you were one
of my spirits. Yes, And I was like, you think
(32:53):
your brother would be you think of Bunny.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
You're bringing him up right now?
Speaker 3 (32:58):
It's another.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Actually, you know we're gonna put this uh.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Actually I was going to make a video about him
because he sees every video so okay, and I know
he saw this video that I made where I was
like he needs a big booty latina and he didn't
see it. He didn't he didn't even like interact with this.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
And anyway, I wait, that was the reason my cousin.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Flew with me to New York.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
By the way, no, no wait, wait, I'm lying.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
I'm lying.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
My manager came with me that time. He would kill
me if I sent the wrong story. It was my
manager who actually flew with me because he knew it
was such a big deal for me. But the Jones's
Brothers were my first concert. Like, girl, I love I
hold your hand in a minute, wives over here.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
I grew up a nick girl, did you know?
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Okay, well did you know? Right?
Speaker 3 (33:48):
But we're going to Virgo. I don't think we're about
it later on.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Okay, it's got to be Earth. It's something.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Oh my god, that's so kind because I know sometimes
people have issues with Virgos.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Love Virgos capurns.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
We have.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Virgos and Cararacors.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Signs next video. I was thinking about what my what
I'm going to do when I leave, and I'm like,
I need to drag Earth signs.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
We need I need to make a video.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
But we get dragged.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Well, we deserve it. We have action. We'll get into
should we get into who are your other two?
Speaker 2 (34:30):
And then we can go into the Okay, love Joe,
just because I got him to sing red Dress. I
was like, I know, obviously that's a nick thing, but
like I wanted to hear him so he does it sometimes,
you know, yeah concerts. I just wanted to hear it
from him, and I was sitting like this close to
him whatever. He was incredible. I was wearing his merch
and he was like, I saw.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Your merch from outside.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
It looks great.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Whatever. So sweet. And then George Clooney, Oh, he.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Is a lot shorter than you would think.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Not to me, he was.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
He was, give me like six foot.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Oh I already used the shorter than you think. And
he has he just has a large head.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
He did have a large head.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Mine. Can I have a large head? Be honest? No, normal?
Speaker 2 (35:10):
You said large.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
George Clooney head like large head.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Oh, that's a good comparison.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Maybe ye when I stand up, like because they say, like,
that's actually a good thing to have.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Giant head.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Do you want a large head?
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Okay, yes, want a large head? Yeah, kind of would
you go has large head?
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Absolutely not, No, I didn't think that.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Oh I'm sorry, yes, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Who's your third? One?
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Great question? I forgot? I don't know. Maybe Davine and
Joy Randolph.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Do you guys know who that is? She was in
the Holdovers. She won an Academy Award for it. She's
also in Only Murders in the Building, but she had
to learn for the Holdover, she had to learn how
to smoke because she is a singer.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
She's never smoked.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
So I went and did a junket with her, and
I brought in a pack of it's like the shittiest
cigarettes anyways, it was the pack of cigarettes that she
had to learn how to smoke on set, and she said,
I'm triggered when she saw what I brought out. She
ended up teaching me how to hold it, and also
she kept it in her lip for the whole junket.
(36:20):
And it was like an eight minute long junket and
it was just sitting here the whole time, and she
finished and she.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Goes like a bro wow, but wait, but it was
lit no no, no, that indoors oh indoors. Okay, I'm like, oh,
I fucking you can't go. I always have people when
I die, I'm going to be backed in my lady.
Speaker 5 (36:40):
For Jason's laughing. I was like, was it like, could
you imagine?
Speaker 1 (36:53):
I mean, I'm when I died, I'm always like leave
cigarettes and alcohol my imaginary because I've do I'm sober,
So I'm like, fuck, we're gonna have to do I.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Wish it was cool and just wait, but I had
an audition recently and had I had to hold a vanilla.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
It was like a little fake?
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Was that for us? I love that Jason's Does.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
Joe Jonas have a big head? He's sure, sure, isn't
he like five six?
Speaker 3 (37:21):
I was looking at that man in the eye.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Sure that's all you.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
For his sake, I'm gonna say five five.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
You're not five? Oh wow?
Speaker 4 (37:32):
He was like right around there, and I'm tall. I'm
like five, I mean seven and a half. Nothing was
not me, not me real. Yeah, welcome to the zodiac
section of the podcast. Okay, so you already said you're
a verygo What month are you?
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Yeah, thirsday.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Twenty third.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Wow, I'm twenty nine, so you're early two. Yeah. I
mean I always said that Augustberg have the most personality.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
To be honest, you know, I was going to say
you were a Leo everyone, but you're a cusp, right
cuspy but you identify with Virgo.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Well, I've been told that cusps don't exist, and so
I think.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
I'm a pie cesarious cuss they exist.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
But I also.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
I was on this I got on astrology talk okay,
and this girl I love being there, but sometimes they
intimidate me. I want to say, this girl was like
a Capricorn and had so much Capricorn and intertrot and
she was like, just no, cusps don't exist, and I
was like, okay, I'm.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
So sorry a cusp erasure.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
I know.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Also, I kind of feel like there's a little bit
of truth to cusps because there's a lot of truth.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
It doesn't it makes more sense that like, of course
you'd have a little bit of like Leo and a
little bit of Virgo because you're like right on the
first day, right, So my mom would have just pushed
a little hard.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
I just like, so that's my bread and right now
is like my zodiac content. So I like love it.
But I think I love it because I'm like, it's guys,
it's not it's not that serious. It's fine, Like we
can make it serious and make and have have fun
with it. Like I'm like, if it was going to
be this serious, I would have just stuck with Jesus,
like what the fuck? Like this is not like I
just joke. I love a good callback joke, but no,
(39:20):
Like I like literally, I'm like, if for somebody, like
people come to my thing all the time, it will
be like like I said the other day, is like
pieces have a lot of anxiety and I was like
they need to chill, and people were like, I'm the
Pisces and I'm fine. I'm like literally saying that they're
they're anxious. It's too much. Yeah, yeah, it's too much.
But what are your top three?
Speaker 3 (39:41):
My was my big three?
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Do you guys want to guess? Because I already said.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
I can guess.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
Are you a Pisces rising?
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Do you want any answer?
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Or no? Yeah? Yeah? Wait, I feel like you're really fun.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
So I feel like there might be like Sagittarius in
their water fire no, no fu, no fire, no water, there.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Is wait what am I going to hang on?
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (40:05):
There is water, okay, and there is fire.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
I think I think that's cancer cancer.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Squiry had cancer.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Do you have a Scorpio moon? I have a Scorpio rising.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Way and your moon?
Speaker 4 (40:22):
Oh my god, what if you have an aries moon?
Speaker 1 (40:24):
I was going to think to.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Leo the judgment though, you said, Leo, my brother's.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
A Leo moon, he's a Leo son. My puppy is
a Leo son Leo moon.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
And that is your Leo son and my Leo.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
So yeah, Scorpio I love yeah, I love all the
energy much. Well, you know, it's very it's I'm super
like chill as fuck when it comes out, I'm like.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
Scorpio anything, it's you're like a scorpio and your guys
charts are is so like the Emo like hair across
your eye.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
And I went through that and I.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
And You're like, it's just a phase, and everyone's like, no,
it's not.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
I bring that up all the time because it's another
thing I should have said during the high school section,
is like, I wanted to be an actress so bad
growing up. Tarted taking acting classes a year ago, thank you,
But I I like really wanted to be an actress,
and I really.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Wanted to be into emo ship.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
My parents would let me dye my hair, and they
wouldn't really let me do much artsy stuff because they
were such a big sports family. Okay, so once I
was older, I then send myself up for it and.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
I did a like hard part, but I couldn't diet.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
But I just oh, I also recently went to when
we were young, which is like an Emo festival. Yes,
and I'm like, see, mom, it was never just a phase.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
Yes, it's our blood, it's in our soul, it's in your.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Chart, and guess I'm sure you're just gonna have a
lot of that. That's probably why you have a lot
of personality. And then the scorpio. I bet you people
like might be like, oh, a little intimidated in the beginning.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
They think I'm a bit chat first, do you have.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
I don't know if I do or if I'm just
quiet at first.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
But it's just like I'm coming into the rest of
your face.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
You have rest your face. Maybe I could see that.
I feel like I have asked me for directions face
like you would like look at me, sir. He seems nice.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
I just have one lazy eyes, so I don't know
if they want to have one.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Sister you have?
Speaker 4 (42:40):
Yeah, yeah, oh a little bit I do.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
I do.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
I also like when I laugh, I have like little
like like my eyes get like little crescent moon. So
I just look very happy.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
I mean, that's cute. A ship like a little cartoon
character Virgos.
Speaker 4 (43:02):
There is the last time we had two virgo Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
Last time too. What's your favorite part do you think
about being a Virgo? I'm b type virgo by the way, type. Yeah.
I like lost, I've lost my wallet on my ship.
I don't know if I said that I lost my
wallet and I don't know where.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
It is, so for weeks.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
In weeks.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
Too though, that's so funny.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Not well, I lose you all the time to where
I don't even get stressed if I lose it. I'm like,
I'll find it. Yeah, yeah, But it's like I'm going
to New Orleans next week and I don't have any
of the information ready to go, you know, like I'll.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
Figure it out.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Yeah, But like my taxes are paid, like everything is
like aligned. Like I'm probably like if you were to
ask my group of friends, I'm probably the one who
is like the most on top of my ship. But
like there's no I don't have any water at my
house right now, Like I don't know who my wallet is.
Like I'm like, it's fine, who cares. I lost this jacket.
I just found it today.
Speaker 4 (43:59):
And that concludes the astrology portion of the podcast.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
You were so much fun.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Find you by you can find Me.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
First of all, I got to get a little better
at this because it should be just the reporter on
all socials, but it's just a reporter on TikTok, and
then at it's just everywhere else.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Or plus one, I have a.
Speaker 4 (44:24):
New Yes, I was gonna say, oh, it's so much fun.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
First of all, Okay, so I just launched a podcast
a couple of months ago because I just like one
of my own space to be able to have long
form conversations with people across the entertainment industry. And you
know what you see in every email whenever you get
invited to something, it's like plus one included or plus
one not included.
Speaker 4 (44:46):
No worse one.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
Yeah, the worst words ever to see in an email.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
Yeah, I got okay, I'll just go.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
We did, right. I don't know that our email. I think,
bring whatever, bring your mom, bring you grandpa. This is fine,
just chat check girl about to go.
Speaker 4 (45:00):
So, yeah, a ghost she was sitting there.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
I read it there. Apparently there's a ghost that follows
me around to.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
I don't have one, are they virgos?
Speaker 1 (45:09):
I hope. I suppose he wears cordroy and jeans, so
he's pretty trying to be in my opinion?
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Oh my god, when did he die?
Speaker 3 (45:15):
Like the seventies?
Speaker 1 (45:16):
I have no idea.
Speaker 4 (45:16):
Actually, how can we find you on social media?
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Yeah? Where you can find me at the Curly v show.
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Can I ask you something morbid? What do you think
when you're going up into the sky?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
No, the reason is because I had an emergency landing.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
This is morbid. Yes, I thought I was gonna die.
Speaker 4 (00:10):
But do you think celebrity culture is signed?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Who you are in high school doesn't always mean that
that's who you're going to be in Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I wanted to be an actress so bad growing up.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
So I'm John Johnas And how was he? She's like,
he's so cool. I'm like Colin.
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My name is Curly and I'm Maya.
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We have just the reform order here. How are you?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Oh good? How are you too good?
Speaker 4 (01:06):
We just came from Universal.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I just came from Universal and business is so weird.
I was literally on the Mummy ride like thirty minutes ago.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
And.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
We also are side, all of us, but I'm barely breathing.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
I love that Fraser.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Yes so hot.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
He's so hot, and I'm so happy that he came
back into our world, like just unproblematic, like just so happy,
sweet angel. Physically, we missed you, you know, Okay, So
for those of us listening to for those of you
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of your interview celebrities for fun. Known as just the
(01:50):
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Speaker 3 (02:01):
Did you chat that?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
No?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
That we got messages being like.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yeah, I personally use it a lot. I literally was
just saying like ways to creep on your ex Like
not that I do that. I just somebody told me
that the way that they creep on their eggs is
they stub access to their Spotify account so they can
search up their name and they can screenshot because you
have a playlist that's called on repeat, so it's your
most repeated songs that you listen to. That So my
(02:35):
friend screenshots this playlist and then he puts it into
chat gybt and he asks it, what is she going
through right now? What is happening in her life? Is
that amazing?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
She's going through a mental breakdown?
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Mine is literally the Moana soundtracks. Yeah, the time of
my life. Say you're welcome.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
What I've been listening to? I mean, yeah, right now,
say with me for sure?
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Eighteens is on there for men is eighteens.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Gym class heroes right now?
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Cupid chokel.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
About number one.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
That was just what I was listening to as I
pulled up.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Typing on repeat.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
I'm scared. Okay, it's fine, we're bestie. So I'm going
to tell you, Oh, I knew this Pink Pony Club
because it's my flight song. So I used to be
so afraid of flying. And so I don't know if
you guys have seen anyone but you with Sydney Swooney
and Glen Powell. So Glen Powell, his character needed a
(03:55):
song to like help him get through things that he
was afraid of and it was your bedding field unwritten.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Okay, yeah, I think.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
That was it in one of her songs.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
And then my song became Pink Pony Clubs.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
So whenever flight the flight gets ready to take off,
I started playing Pink Pony club.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Doesn't make you really happy, Like.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
I don't even know what it is. It's just like
everything about it is perfect. First of all, the song
is amazing, but it's so fun.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
It also kind of sounds like you're in a video
game and I play Mario Kart. During takeoff too, I.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Thought I got my something morbid. What do you think
when you're going up into the sky.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
No, the reason is because I had an emergency landing.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
This is morbid. Yeah, I thought I was going to die.
But we were good.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
We landed safely, but it was there was like a mechanical.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Issue with the plane. That's what scared the ship out
of me.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
So now you can't Now you're just like you don't
trust them.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I don't trust playing.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
It was like three years ago, so I'm better now.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
But it took me like two months, two years. It
took me a minute.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
That's crazy. I would blast that being pony close right.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I literally like every time I get on a plane,
you I think almost everybody thinks that, like, is this
something that's going to be my last? But I look
around and I'm like, I don't want to die next
to that guy. I don't want to go to And
so I'll find somebody that I'm like, I'll band next
to them. It's all good, you know, like somebody who's
like a little bit more chilling.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
That's the thing.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
I look around and I'm like, is anyone else freaking out?
No one else is panicked. I'm like, it's just on
the inside. They're like anyone else?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah, yeah, more people than you think panic. Like the
last light I was on, there was a girl who
I think of Southwest, and I think I can when
the girls happy that a gay guy is going to
sit next to her, because I'll see the girl being
like me every time. Yeah. And then I come and
I'm like, is anyone sitting here? And they're like yeah, yeah, yeah,
they get really happy. And there was the girl. I
(05:57):
could see her like kind of like like panicking, and
I wanted to reach out and kind of be like
it's okay, Like I'm you know, but I also didn't
want I don't know, maybe she.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Didn't want to make it worse or anything. Yeah, yeah,
but oh my god, that happened to me once when
I was flying to New York. This is my cousin
had to drive with drive to LA so that we
could fly to New York together because it was like
a big work opportunity and I was like, I need
someone to go with me. I'm not going to be
able to make this flight alone. And then we ended
up sitting by a gay guy. We ended up becoming friends.
She caught me down whenever there was bad turbulence.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
I was like, I love it.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
I want to see queer people like what a blessing?
Like yeah, I feel like and then we'll get into
like the whole thing. I think gay people, queer people
love humans, like love the humans so much, and that
like like you know what this comedian and wolf lady
She's like, I don't know that anybody loves Dick one
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and gay guys do. Like gay guys are so and
like as with our girls were so like, oh my god,
you guys are so beautiful, like your hair you're out,
but your nails like we really celebrate it. And then
even lesbians are so caring and like, I got you,
I'll take care of you. Like we really want to
so true.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
You know in the world, like take their rights away.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Yeah, exactly what. We just love you guys to make
behind us. I dare you exactly, Like it's just so wild.
I'm like, man, we just want to love on people.
And you know, but we did want to bring you
on because we love that you talk about celebrity culture,
and celebrity culture is just you know, sometimes people are
like it's dying out. It's you know, it's not a
(07:30):
thing anymore. It's like the dawn of the influencer. But
even the influencer is kind of changing in terms of
what people want. But we thought it was kind of
funny that we were like, what was the original celebrity
culture and we were thinking high school and junior high or.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
High elementary school.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
So trippy to think about.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
I mean, I was talking maya like when I was
a kid, when I was in high school and I
was a freshman, I remember going down to being in
the hallway and I was next to one of the
really popular girls and we were both Latin, know, so
when we were leaving each other, we were like all right, bye,
and we kissed each other and we walked away, and
I remember people saw me kiss her and they were like, oh,
(08:08):
he's in with the in crowd. Oh, And it was
like this weird thing that I was like, well, we're cool,
like we're getting to know each other, but we're not
like locked in. Yeah. But it's funny because people like
I think I was sung, Like, I think that feels
like very Hollywood now, where people go like I saw
her next to like Beyonce and she must be you know,
like you kind.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Of oh my god.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
No.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
So true because actually that reminds me, well, I will
talk about the high school thing, but it reminds me
of when I've gone to some of these premieres for example. Yeah,
I don't know how often you guys are going to these,
but first of all, the premieres are a whole story
and themselves.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
But sometimes when you leave these premiers.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
There will be a squad of people taking photos of
celebrities as they're leaving, or like influencers even as they're leaving,
and they'll come up to me. Sometimes they'll know my name.
Sometimes they'll just be like, can I get a photo
with you? Just because they see what I'm talking out of.
It's that same vibe. Sudden They're like, well you must
be cool yeah, and they later yeah yeah yeah, like
(09:08):
they'll chat.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
With me. Yeah. But like I feel like the whole
fame game and the whole stuff too. I learned it
and kind of like I learned it like in high school.
Like I compared it so much to high school, where
I'm like, oh, yeah, we had our popular girls. We
had our popular guys that we were like, oh my god,
throw and Throw said this, they're dating each other. Oh
they broke up like they were the ones that we
were really invested in.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
It's so true because there was also those apps that
you would have where they were like anonymous. It was
like ask FM in high school, and so people go
to that and like talk about the couples that were
hooking up or getting together or cheating on each other whatever,
and it's like that's that's tabloids.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
You know, that was absolutely what you're high school? Yeah, thirteen, Wow,
are you a game?
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Eleven?
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Okay, I'm the older one here, I'm the five. I
was like, yeah, no, but I but no, But you're
right though, Army for us, I think we were at
the beginning with the well the grandfathers of the Internet,
you know, like we Facebook, We had we have this
thing called Friendster.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
I was.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
The logo Yes.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Francer gay Births to MySpace, and then my Space gave
birth to Facebook, and then it was just all down here.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Did you ever get in trouble for having an account?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
No? I like literally, like I was saying, like we
were talking about who the celebrities were in high school,
and my archetype was like I was the nerdy gig guy.
But something very early on made it so that I
learned how to be funny. I loved to stand up
comedy growing up, so I would learn from the comedians
and I would come back on Monday and I would
know how to like talk shit back, and I knew timing,
(10:44):
and so it defended it protected me in a lot
of ways. But I became like, and I had to
unlearn this as I got older, that I didn't need
to be the sassy, mean gig guy all the time.
But at the time I was, I was quick with it,
like so fast, and I became the gay guy. So
like schools and other people would be like, well, that's
the gay guy from yeah, where they knew, and I
(11:06):
remember there were a group of other gay kids that
weren't out, and I used to get pissed. I used
to be like, you guys are leaving me out here
by myself, and I have to be the one that
bears it, so I have to be really tough and zassy.
But I loved it. I had big, curly hair, I
was really into my spice. I had like big big shoes. Well,
(11:26):
I was like, if the intention is going to be
on me, I gotta work it. I gotta rock it.
And then now that I'm an adult, I'm like, oh no, Like,
let me like wear my headie and just chill. I've
done my time.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Wait, this is so so you've always been cool.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
I feel like, yeah, my literally, I just had I
just had dinner with one of my friends in high school,
like one of my seas in high school, and she
was and I didn't know this either, but she was
like you, she was saying her husband, she's like curly.
Being so open about being gay liberated all of us
to be ourselves. And I had no idea that that
was the way that they felt. And because I was
from Hollywood and I went to high school in Burbank,
(12:02):
and the culture shock of the two cities or towns whatever,
the city in the town was a lot for me.
And so Anna was like, you thought you were better
than everybody, And I was like, I was better than everybody.
What do you mean? I'm not from a suburb. I'm
from fucking Hollywood, you.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Know, actually from la first of all.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Actually yes, but you know, I enjoyed it, like I did.
I was prom king by the two.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Really different to me, my story, How how are you
in high school? I was like in high school. This
was when like YouTube was really big, right, like iconic,
like Awson at the time, like rand A Cycent, Jeffrey Yeah, Jeffree.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Stars, Jeffrey Moore, Jeffrey Marbles.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
What's her name is, Jenna Marble?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Marble? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (12:50):
And so I really wanted to be a YouTuber. So
because I started like my in the moment, like my blog,
a blog and YouTube channel in two thousand and nine
when I was like fifteen sixty and so I people
used to make fun of me because I had a
brand already. They used to be like, oh, in the
moment and tell me why. Those people like nowadays were like,
oh my gosh, yeah, I knew her in high school.
(13:11):
I'm like, you made fun of me. So I was
like kind of sticking a camera in everybody's faces and
being like, what do you want to do before you die?
Like you know, like there was I came out of
a bucket list. Yeah, like what's your bucket list? And
so I like wanted to be in theater, but like
the theater teacher only cast people who he was like
(13:33):
attracted to. So yes, so I never got cast in
like main roles, which okay, and so I just was
kind of like an artsy team but like very much
like quirky and didn't I was not super popular at all.
(13:54):
I think people just kind of didn't know where to
place me because I like wasn't really smart, right, But
I played the viola and the band, the marching band
was really popular. Those were our popular people. Marching band
in theater. Wait where did you grow up in Phoenix, Arizona?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
And marching band is popular?
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Marching band was popular. Like the football team sucked, so
no one would go to see the football team. They
would go to see the marching band, like smoking a
stag like and nobody liked the orchestra viola. Yeah, I
was the president of the orchestra chair a.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah, also years you know, two seniors.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
My first year. I don't even know about any of that.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Yeah, you got it.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
I was like the best out of like the two seniors,
so much like at lunch every day we'd go into
the practice room and play piano and everything. So I
was very like secluded and like just kind of cut
myself off because I just was like by yourself, like, m.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
How are you when you were in high school?
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Like so much more relatable over here.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I can't It was not at all. I'm not even close.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
No.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
I was just like.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I I was so quiet, which like naturally I'm not
really a quiet person. So if I'm quiet, I'm probably
like analyzing the rule I'm saying if I'm safe.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Or like what's the vibes, what's your vibes?
Speaker 1 (15:48):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Reading everything. But in high.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
School, I played softball and then I ran track in
cross country. I always wanted to do theater as well,
and I did audition my senior year. Finally I like
built up the courage was care spray and I thought
it was so cool. Yeah, and then I was cast
is ensemble and I was like, I don't.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
I know, I'm not doing that, shom doing that even.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Christy or somebody else was Amanda Vines. I wanted to
be her so.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Bad but.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Quick summer like with that, like I also built up
the courage to like try and do theater as well.
I think my senior year as well. Cute and I
was doing like he's like I was the lead. No,
I was like just justph the technically dream coat and
I was like, oh my god, I win. I sang
and I did my augician and you know how they
put your name with like the it's your name and
whatever you get on a list or something. So I
(16:45):
was like, oh my god, I got cast as God
in this fucking thing, like clearly they But then I
went back and it was like Dad, it was g
A D which was just a celebrated ensemble and they
were like one mind. So I feel you because I
was like, man, what the and I'm gad, I'll go
back to the back. So I feel you.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Though you don't tell your parents, who don't tell anyone.
You're like, don't come.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
All my Hollywood kids, all my Hollywood friends, is like,
come see me. I'm gonna be gad coming. They all
shout over their flower. But okay, so then you're the
track star. I know, but I feel like that's cool.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
It was cool, except our team was so good that
it's like I was good for any other school, not
our school. And so it was like I was constantly
like b you know, not A but I would be
be I wouldn't be first, sure, i'd be second, sharit
ty vibe, and I wasn't like super smart.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
I didn't have like a solid core.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Group and I didn't necessarily get made fun of, but.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
I would be like left out of a lot of circles.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
And similar to your story, I was like checking my
dms and there'd be a lot of d ms from
people who still follow me from high school years ago,
checking in with like the oh my god, I can't
believe you interviewed this person.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Get oh my god, what were they like?
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Or they'll like send me gossip to talk about or
just like pop culture stuff to talk about, and I'm like,
this is funny, isn't Yeah, yeah, how it works out.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Yeah, you didn't want to talk to me back then,
but now you do.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I mean, I mean that's the thing too, like who
you are in high school doesn't always mean that that's
who you're going to be in life. Yeah, but I
do think you learn like a lot of tools. Like
I do remember like early on, like talking to the
popular kids versus talking to the musical kids or talking
to the sports kids. Like it was very different but
also very much the same.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I remember in middle school one of my favorite teachers
said something along the lines of how cool changes over
the years. So like in high school, there's cool, like
there's just people who.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Just have it and they're cool.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
But then you go to college and smart becomes cool.
And then you graduate college and you become an adult
and money becomes cool, and so there's like different levels
of interesting. So I still have a chance at being cooler.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
We're pretty cool now though, I'm.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Like good with where I'm at, you know, with who
I am at least thing that now as.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
I've gotten older, and I'm sure you can we can
all talk about this. Like working in the industry that
we work in, we know people with money, we know
famous people, we know munch of different things. And I
feel like with me, what I've noticed is I think
people who are grounded are the coolest to me. You
can feel it.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I agree. I think it's so important that everyone curly.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
When's yours? Where was yours? When did you have it?
Speaker 2 (19:36):
But you everyone needs an ugly phase and like just
like a lame phase. Yeah, so it sounds like we
went through our right.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I went through. I went through, but I rocked it,
do you know what I mean? So people would make
fun of my big curly hair, and it was like,
I don't know, and honestly, like I really went after
Scary Spices hard, and I was like, Scary House has
Gary Space has big curly hair, so do I s
garyu Specs has a tongue ring. I was at my
tongue feteen. I wear leftard. I would get in trouble
(20:08):
for it all the time in school. You can't.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
You should put it?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Oh my god. I like I think on an older person,
it's kind of like you should have left the two
thousands behind.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
I have to love that ship. I love anything.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Well, isn't it funny now that we're older, It's like
I just love things that make people different.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah? Yeah, I think it's.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
The coolest one people have.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
I don't know, like a septum piercing or just like
a tongue piercing whatever, a.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Weird voice, like something like big glasses, like even like
I was telling Maya like there's this girl that I
know and she's so like movie scripted like awkward, like hi,
and I love her, Like I'm like, oh my god,
she's so like yeah, you just like you find them
so endearing, but because they are authentically themselves, you know,
(20:57):
you don't see them being like, oh, I'm this or
I'm and I'm like I don't give a shit, like
what And I feel like in this industry again celebrity stuff,
like you're as hot as your current project. You know,
you can be of the moment and you can totally
be like, oh my god, I have this really good friend.
He is in the new JLO movie. He's in Kiss
(21:18):
of Spider Moment Yo, And we went into we went
to this party and people were like, you know, chilling,
like Hi, nice to meet you, blah blah. They showed
the trailer before the movie came out, and I literally
was like the lights came back on after the trailer
and the difference in the way that people were treating.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
The start of the movie he started the movie.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
They was so crazy to me. It happened like within
three minutes. Yeah, I'm like, oh, yeah, that's what happens.
But also with all of us, with everybody, the opposite
can happen, and so how do you ride it? How
do you ride that and find.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
But I feel like you would know a lot about
like what's cool right now right with the people who
you're interviewing, and like, is there a certain trend that
you're seeing or like, I don't know the kind of
like success that's coming out right now from the people
you're interviewing.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
You know what's This isn't even a trend.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
My brain just went here because I was like scrolling
through TikTok this morning.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
This isn't a trend.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
But I just saw this video and it's fresh on
my mind and it reminds me of just like how
authenticity is just so coore.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Now.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
So it was this gay guy who was talking about
how he went on a date with the woman.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Okay, yes, I just saw it today. I don't know
when he posted.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
It could have been over the week and whatever, but
he was saying that he had previously posted about how
if he reaches a certain age and he's still single,
then he's considering doing a lavender marriage, and the comments
were blowing up and women started dming him, being like
if you're looking for candidates, like I'm down, I would
love to. So he finally goes on a date, and
(22:53):
this was like months ago that he posted it, the
first one. He finally goes on a date, and he
was like, it went really well, and I was like,
low key attracted to her to where if I kissed her,
like I think she would have kissed me back. And
it was such an interesting thing to where I was
like so into the video just because I'm like, this
is cool that we're all just looking for companionship and
(23:15):
authenticity and like, I hadn't seen anything like that on
my for you page. I guess sure people are talking
about dates and we've all made packs with our friends,
like if I make it to this age, then we're
getting yeah, we're getting a dog like whatever.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
But I just thought that was so cute.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
I think it's the obviously the relatability, which is like
I feel like a word that we use so much.
But going off of that, there was this other guy
who was calling out his aunts and estheas and his
cousins for he found a group chat of them talking
shit about him.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Wait, I saw this.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
I saw this.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah, Oh my god, I send that to my family.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Yeah, and it's relatable because this year I found a
group chat in my theas talking shit about me, and
it's like it's yeah, I made a whole like live
musical show about it, like stage in March, from like
being so devastated to getting a standing ovation.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Was your family there?
Speaker 4 (24:19):
My parents were there. I don't talk to that side
of the family anymore because they called them out publicly.
But I feel like if like, I guess it's not
really a trend, but just like the common thread between people,
right is like the relatability and the storytelling of like
you know, whether it's love or lavender marriage or calling
it out. Yeah, And so I think that's why a
(24:39):
lot of people are saying celebrity culture is dead, right
or is dying, because they have such a mysterious facade
to them and versus like creators who just come out
and tell stories get more traction. Right.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
If you notice, when we first started scrolling on TikTok,
let's say like twenty twenty one or so, it was
a lot of come with me to go do this
and we're gonna get a hair dye together, and yeah,
it get ready with me. There was like an inflection
in the voice and like this influencer style of talking,
and then you slowly have began seeing that wall come down.
(25:17):
So like the Lavender marriage video for example, he was
just talking to you literally like Bessie's you know. I
was sitting there so just enamored by it. But like
you said, it kind of ties in with how I
think celebrities are at least are becoming or trying to become.
Like Charlie XCX, for example, just released her second sub stack.
I don't know if you guys, I don't read very much.
(25:39):
That's gonna be like I don't know if you read,
but she has been releasing these sub stack articles for
these movies that she's starring in, and so this most
recent article was talking about the life of a pop
star and how everyone wants them to be so stupid,
but you can't be a pop star for this long
(26:02):
and be stupid, Like it just doesn't work like that.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
But I was I don't know the last sub stack
I read.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
I sat there and I was like, this is good.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
And she was in another like Creator's videos, too. Yeah,
she was in These two guys are so funny. They
like have this they do this little skip. They use
like sound effects that you would watch in like a
sitcom like boo or cheering, so funny, and she was
like in that video and so I feel like that's
like I've been seeing a lot more like Mega Trainer
(26:31):
doing more videos with influencers, right and for very around fifteen. Yeah,
she's seen it all.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I was like barely coming out of high school and
she was dope like that. So I believe that.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
But do you think celebrity culture is dying?
Speaker 2 (26:48):
I think there is an aspect that people are over.
I don't think it's ever going to go away, because
you guys see it when you go anywhere in La
where if there's a I can't think of the macha
store that everyone's like obsessed with right now in Wueho.
(27:08):
But if a celebrity goes and gets macha from someone,
let's say Alfred's for example, how that became like huge
because they saw so many celebrities going there.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
It's still a big deal.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
So then they go to a celebrity goes to a
new macha spot. All of a sudden, the lines around
the corner. Like I don't think it's dying. I think
people are just becoming more selective with who they're paying
attention to and who they're actually following, and that they're
not just going to subscribe to celebrity overall, but they're
going to like do their research on who these people are,
(27:40):
and like why why do.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
I like Charlie XCX. Do I associate with her because she's.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
A party girl or is it because of other things
that she's doing outside of her Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
That's why I think that.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
For me, I did see this thing that was saying
that the pendulum might be swinging the other way and
that influencers are sharing too much and that there might
be a space to be like influencers, take your time
a little bit now, like have fun with showing bits
of yourself as authentically as you can. But like we
don't want it. We don't need to go with you
(28:11):
to dye your hair, like we can go and see
like I'm you know, I really want to like live
in up my look da da da da, Like I
haven't been feeling good about myself and here come with
me to like get ready whatever. But you can start
to be a little bit more choosy, But I think
in terms of celebrity for forever, I have like these
like four I think there are four rules that I
(28:32):
always say is like people should either want to be you,
look like you, dress like you like I really like her,
So when they hear your music or they watch your movies,
they can kind of wear you a little bit as
like armor. We saw it with Madonna, we see it
Lady Gaga, sab being a carpenter, Charlie XCX. You kind
of brats right like you can like do people want
(28:53):
to like sleep with you like they're hot, Like he's hot,
she's hot. They're hot. They like are like every time
they see you, are you their best friend? Like you're
just like, oh my god, I just love them so
much they love them my best friend? Or are they
like the Trisipades where they're just the train wreck where
you're just.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Like what they say keeps coming back.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Just like I was just talking about how like Trish
went from being like she said this, oh my god,
I can't now being like she just said, whether.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
You know, like boys will be voice, it's like will
be exactly.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Like she's become like the uncle at a party or
the cover ofever. You're like, don't mind them, They're just
gonna say what they need to say. Just keep us
little bit.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
I'll love her, I promise, just show up.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
But I also think that I think that that won't
ever change in terms of what people are looking for,
no matter who it is.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yeah, I think with celebrities, it's like people are they
are so blown away by the life that they live,
or even some influencers by the life that they live,
which is why the behind the scenes is.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Always so cool. That's that's the thing that I'm the
most fascinated by.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yes, the pop star of it all, but truly it's like, okay,
but how did you get to that point? It's really
just cool to me because I think it's something that
a lot of people think that they can do.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
They'll watch I've literally seen people when I've gone to concerts.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I've seen people be like, I could do that, I
can be her.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
So I'm seeing you.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
But then it's like they think that they can do
what these stars are doing, but there's so much more than.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
You realize, you know.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
It's like it's it's all the singing lessons that they're
going to and then they become actors later down the line,
and then they're right and then the outfits like everything
on the.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
Dance you're just seeing the final product. Yeah yeah, But I.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Mean how many of us are like in our car
or in the shower and we're like, you know whatever
it is that you're singing a Beyonce song or you're.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Singing like whole motivation.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Yeah, like you just thought, oh I could command the
audience like that, and then you don't think about We
have a good friend of ours who just went on
tour with Lord Empress of and she I remember when
she said to me, Curly, I'm gonna go take my
first dance class. And now she's like dancing all up
and down the stage and I'm like, I remember when
you didn't part of.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
A lipa peep with her?
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Now yeah, and all of a sudden, those dance moves
and know what.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
No one's talking about that.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
I selfishly ask you to like, who has been maybe
your standout favorite interview? Oh?
Speaker 2 (31:58):
I have so many, I have so many, true I think, Okay, wait,
can I give like a couple think? Okay, Joe Jonas,
I'm just like such.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
A second time every single day thing he pops up.
There's this Columbian pop star Ella and she did a
song with him last year called and I was just
working with her like this weekend and I was like,
(32:32):
so i Jonas and how was he. She's like, he's
so cool. I'm like call him. He's And then Jonas
was at this showcase thing that I performed at and
he was like, you're so funny, like you were one
of my spirits. Yes, And I was like, you think
(32:53):
your brother would be you think of Bunny.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
You're bringing him up right now?
Speaker 3 (32:58):
It's another.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Actually, you know we're gonna put this uh.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Actually I was going to make a video about him
because he sees every video so okay, and I know
he saw this video that I made where I was
like he needs a big booty latina and he didn't
see it. He didn't he didn't even like interact with this.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
And anyway, I wait, that was the reason my cousin.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Flew with me to New York.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
By the way, no, no wait, wait, I'm lying.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
I'm lying.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
My manager came with me that time. He would kill
me if I sent the wrong story. It was my
manager who actually flew with me because he knew it
was such a big deal for me. But the Jones's
Brothers were my first concert. Like, girl, I love I
hold your hand in a minute, wives over here.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
I grew up a nick girl, did you know?
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Okay, well did you know? Right?
Speaker 3 (33:48):
But we're going to Virgo. I don't think we're about
it later on.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Okay, it's got to be Earth. It's something.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Oh my god, that's so kind because I know sometimes
people have issues with Virgos.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Love Virgos capurns.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
We have.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Virgos and Cararacors.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Signs next video. I was thinking about what my what
I'm going to do when I leave, and I'm like,
I need to drag Earth signs.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
We need I need to make a video.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
But we get dragged.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Well, we deserve it. We have action. We'll get into
should we get into who are your other two?
Speaker 2 (34:30):
And then we can go into the Okay, love Joe,
just because I got him to sing red Dress. I
was like, I know, obviously that's a nick thing, but
like I wanted to hear him so he does it sometimes,
you know, yeah concerts. I just wanted to hear it
from him, and I was sitting like this close to
him whatever. He was incredible. I was wearing his merch
and he was like, I saw.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Your merch from outside.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
It looks great.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Whatever. So sweet. And then George Clooney, Oh, he.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Is a lot shorter than you would think.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Not to me, he was.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
He was, give me like six foot.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Oh I already used the shorter than you think. And
he has he just has a large head.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
He did have a large head.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Mine. Can I have a large head? Be honest? No, normal?
Speaker 2 (35:10):
You said large.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
George Clooney head like large head.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Oh, that's a good comparison.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Maybe ye when I stand up, like because they say, like,
that's actually a good thing to have.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Giant head.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Do you want a large head?
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Okay, yes, want a large head? Yeah, kind of would
you go has large head?
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Absolutely not, No, I didn't think that.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Oh I'm sorry, yes, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Who's your third? One?
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Great question? I forgot? I don't know. Maybe Davine and
Joy Randolph.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Do you guys know who that is? She was in
the Holdovers. She won an Academy Award for it. She's
also in Only Murders in the Building, but she had
to learn for the Holdover, she had to learn how
to smoke because she is a singer.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
She's never smoked.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
So I went and did a junket with her, and
I brought in a pack of it's like the shittiest
cigarettes anyways, it was the pack of cigarettes that she
had to learn how to smoke on set, and she said,
I'm triggered when she saw what I brought out. She
ended up teaching me how to hold it, and also
she kept it in her lip for the whole junket.
(36:20):
And it was like an eight minute long junket and
it was just sitting here the whole time, and she
finished and she.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Goes like a bro wow, but wait, but it was
lit no no, no, that indoors oh indoors. Okay, I'm like, oh,
I fucking you can't go. I always have people when
I die, I'm going to be backed in my lady.
Speaker 5 (36:40):
For Jason's laughing. I was like, was it like, could
you imagine?
Speaker 1 (36:53):
I mean, I'm when I died, I'm always like leave
cigarettes and alcohol my imaginary because I've do I'm sober,
So I'm like, fuck, we're gonna have to do I.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Wish it was cool and just wait, but I had
an audition recently and had I had to hold a vanilla.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
It was like a little fake?
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Was that for us? I love that Jason's Does.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
Joe Jonas have a big head? He's sure, sure, isn't
he like five six?
Speaker 3 (37:21):
I was looking at that man in the eye.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Sure that's all you.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
For his sake, I'm gonna say five five.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
You're not five? Oh wow?
Speaker 4 (37:32):
He was like right around there, and I'm tall. I'm
like five, I mean seven and a half. Nothing was
not me, not me real. Yeah, welcome to the zodiac
section of the podcast. Okay, so you already said you're
a verygo What month are you?
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Yeah, thirsday.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Twenty third.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Wow, I'm twenty nine, so you're early two. Yeah. I
mean I always said that Augustberg have the most personality.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
To be honest, you know, I was going to say
you were a Leo everyone, but you're a cusp, right
cuspy but you identify with Virgo.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Well, I've been told that cusps don't exist, and so
I think.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
I'm a pie cesarious cuss they exist.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
But I also.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
I was on this I got on astrology talk okay,
and this girl I love being there, but sometimes they
intimidate me. I want to say, this girl was like
a Capricorn and had so much Capricorn and intertrot and
she was like, just no, cusps don't exist, and I
was like, okay, I'm.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
So sorry a cusp erasure.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
I know.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Also, I kind of feel like there's a little bit
of truth to cusps because there's a lot of truth.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
It doesn't it makes more sense that like, of course
you'd have a little bit of like Leo and a
little bit of Virgo because you're like right on the
first day, right, So my mom would have just pushed
a little hard.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
I just like, so that's my bread and right now
is like my zodiac content. So I like love it.
But I think I love it because I'm like, it's guys,
it's not it's not that serious. It's fine, Like we
can make it serious and make and have have fun
with it. Like I'm like, if it was going to
be this serious, I would have just stuck with Jesus,
like what the fuck? Like this is not like I
just joke. I love a good callback joke, but no,
(39:20):
Like I like literally, I'm like, if for somebody, like
people come to my thing all the time, it will
be like like I said the other day, is like
pieces have a lot of anxiety and I was like
they need to chill, and people were like, I'm the
Pisces and I'm fine. I'm like literally saying that they're
they're anxious. It's too much. Yeah, yeah, it's too much.
But what are your top three?
Speaker 3 (39:41):
My was my big three?
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Do you guys want to guess? Because I already said.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
I can guess.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
Are you a Pisces rising?
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Do you want any answer?
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Or no? Yeah? Yeah? Wait, I feel like you're really fun.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
So I feel like there might be like Sagittarius in
their water fire no, no fu, no fire, no water, there.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Is wait what am I going to hang on?
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (40:05):
There is water, okay, and there is fire.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
I think I think that's cancer cancer.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Squiry had cancer.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Do you have a Scorpio moon? I have a Scorpio rising.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Way and your moon?
Speaker 4 (40:22):
Oh my god, what if you have an aries moon?
Speaker 1 (40:24):
I was going to think to.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Leo the judgment though, you said, Leo, my brother's.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
A Leo moon, he's a Leo son. My puppy is
a Leo son Leo moon.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
And that is your Leo son and my Leo.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
So yeah, Scorpio I love yeah, I love all the
energy much. Well, you know, it's very it's I'm super
like chill as fuck when it comes out, I'm like.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
Scorpio anything, it's you're like a scorpio and your guys
charts are is so like the Emo like hair across
your eye.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
And I went through that and I.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
And You're like, it's just a phase, and everyone's like, no,
it's not.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
I bring that up all the time because it's another
thing I should have said during the high school section,
is like, I wanted to be an actress so bad
growing up. Tarted taking acting classes a year ago, thank you,
But I I like really wanted to be an actress,
and I really.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Wanted to be into emo ship.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
My parents would let me dye my hair, and they
wouldn't really let me do much artsy stuff because they
were such a big sports family. Okay, so once I
was older, I then send myself up for it and.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
I did a like hard part, but I couldn't diet.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
But I just oh, I also recently went to when
we were young, which is like an Emo festival. Yes,
and I'm like, see, mom, it was never just a phase.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
Yes, it's our blood, it's in our soul, it's in your.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Chart, and guess I'm sure you're just gonna have a
lot of that. That's probably why you have a lot
of personality. And then the scorpio. I bet you people
like might be like, oh, a little intimidated in the beginning.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
They think I'm a bit chat first, do you have.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
I don't know if I do or if I'm just
quiet at first.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
But it's just like I'm coming into the rest of
your face.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
You have rest your face. Maybe I could see that.
I feel like I have asked me for directions face
like you would like look at me, sir. He seems nice.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
I just have one lazy eyes, so I don't know
if they want to have one.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Sister you have?
Speaker 4 (42:40):
Yeah, yeah, oh a little bit I do.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
I do.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
I also like when I laugh, I have like little
like like my eyes get like little crescent moon. So
I just look very happy.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
I mean, that's cute. A ship like a little cartoon
character Virgos.
Speaker 4 (43:02):
There is the last time we had two virgo Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
Last time too. What's your favorite part do you think
about being a Virgo? I'm b type virgo by the way, type. Yeah.
I like lost, I've lost my wallet on my ship.
I don't know if I said that I lost my
wallet and I don't know where.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
It is, so for weeks.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
In weeks.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
Too though, that's so funny.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Not well, I lose you all the time to where
I don't even get stressed if I lose it. I'm like,
I'll find it. Yeah, yeah, But it's like I'm going
to New Orleans next week and I don't have any
of the information ready to go, you know, like I'll.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
Figure it out.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Yeah, But like my taxes are paid, like everything is
like aligned. Like I'm probably like if you were to
ask my group of friends, I'm probably the one who
is like the most on top of my ship. But
like there's no I don't have any water at my
house right now, Like I don't know who my wallet is.
Like I'm like, it's fine, who cares. I lost this jacket.
I just found it today.
Speaker 4 (43:59):
And that concludes the astrology portion of the podcast.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
You were so much fun.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Find you by you can find Me.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
First of all, I got to get a little better
at this because it should be just the reporter on
all socials, but it's just a reporter on TikTok, and
then at it's just everywhere else.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Or plus one, I have a.
Speaker 4 (44:24):
New Yes, I was gonna say, oh, it's so much fun.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
First of all, Okay, so I just launched a podcast
a couple of months ago because I just like one
of my own space to be able to have long
form conversations with people across the entertainment industry. And you
know what you see in every email whenever you get
invited to something, it's like plus one included or plus
one not included.
Speaker 4 (44:46):
No worse one.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
Yeah, the worst words ever to see in an email.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
Yeah, I got okay, I'll just go.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
We did, right. I don't know that our email. I think,
bring whatever, bring your mom, bring you grandpa. This is fine,
just chat check girl about to go.
Speaker 4 (45:00):
So, yeah, a ghost she was sitting there.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
I read it there. Apparently there's a ghost that follows
me around to.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
I don't have one, are they virgos?
Speaker 1 (45:09):
I hope. I suppose he wears cordroy and jeans, so
he's pretty trying to be in my opinion?
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Oh my god, when did he die?
Speaker 3 (45:15):
Like the seventies?
Speaker 1 (45:16):
I have no idea.
Speaker 4 (45:16):
Actually, how can we find you on social media?
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Yeah? Where you can find me at the Curly v show.
You can find me and my ghost at the Curly
v Show on Instagram and TikTok. We can find you.
Speaker 4 (45:25):
You can find me at my in the Moment, a
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