October 29, 2025 • 61 mins
Curly and Maya chat with the multi-talented and Apple Tv star Fernando Carsa about acting, dancing, and maybe dethroning Selena’s early-starter record. Fame, body positivity, LGBTQ+ joy, and the star power of a possibly Sagittarius icon.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's not about sex, about being a slave to the music.
I have family members go as for us to tell me,
and a skinny actor can play a fat person, but
a fat person will never be able to play a
skinny act. Wow, we're not going to say I'm going
to say that.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Okay, Okay, I can't.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
I can't confirm your The nine, Okay, but I had
crushes on them. I'm a going through a face in
my life where I don't waste my time with people
that don't deserve it. You're not worth my energy. There's
nothing to solve here, there's nothing to talk. You don't
deserve me.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
My name is Curly and I'm Maaya.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
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Speaker 2 (00:45):
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Speaker 3 (00:47):
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Speaker 2 (00:49):
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Speaker 1 (00:53):
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Speaker 4 (00:59):
Here?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Welcome to another episode of The Super Secret Bestie Club Podcast.
We have another special guest up here.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
A new best looking super fabulous. Today, My goodness, Today
we have Fernando Carzada, right right.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Right, Okay, you're one of the few people fer.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Fernando Carca is a rising star from Colima, Mexico, best
known for playing Memo on Apple TV Plus series The
Possibly Such Terrists. I Am Possibly Such Terris is a
trained actor, singer, and a danza who started performing at
just seven years old. Yes, supposedly Selena started at eight
(01:50):
years old, so you want that one, I guess. After
moving to the US, Fernando earned a THEATA Arts degree
from Fullerton College.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Correct, what is that?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Like?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I learned a lot. Here's the thing I ended up
transferring to four years later u c L A later.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Mexican theater program.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Very much, very proud of Uncut l A me too. Anyways,
we changed the title of the podcast.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Club No, but it was honestly a very both experiences
I think made me the artist that I am today.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, because bulletin is kind of like no when.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I think there were a lot of Latinos there, but.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
When I think gay rights, I don't think bulletin no shape.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Nothing in Orange County really, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Mean, no shade to Orange County. But you made your
TV TV debut t V t V t G TV
debut with where your performance earned major praise, and more recently,
you appeared in the paramount plus rom com at Midnight,
Yes and Beyond acting. Fernanda is an advocate for body
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positivity and LGBTQ plus representation, and you even won the
TWOY twenty four Critics Choice Rising.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Star war Rising Star, which this year was given to
Benito Scanner for overcompensating. And I was like, why are
we in the same the year before?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
But you need to have him on your show, another
possibly uncut individual. Perhaps, yes, allegedly allegedly.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
We need a plus size gate and overcompensed the show.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
But we don't need we plus plus gate anywhere at
all time.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I need a plus size gay life.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Wait, so you're from Maic originally?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
When did you move to l A. How old are you?
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Twelve years ago? April? I was fifteen? Wow, yeah so
to you? Yeah, I did have a king sign on
Facts and then four months later I moved to the
US vehicles.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I did, But.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
You know what I did instead?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, what you do?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Instead of doing the surprise dance, I did have a
missa so we did go to church and people were
very shocked and like people were like pricing in the
middle of the ceremony, being like more men should do this.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Oh my god, religious at all.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
But you know, back then, I'm a.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Big mesa girl. I'm a Misa, like, oh yeah, Senoras
love me. I'm like, I go to I go to
it and I meet any Senora any party, and I'm like, Senora,
I never drink your casino familiar. It was like yeah,
and they're.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
Perfect from yeah, You're like you love me, son, they
love me.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
But then they see about had it and I know
they're like, it's okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Do you end up getting their numbers?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
They asked, remember a lot, which is fine. I love
I am a Senora and body I am too. Okay,
So you and I did, but you know how they
do the surprise. Yes, I didn't do that. I did
a ninety minute concert.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I made my guest ninety minutes Britney Spears. Britney Spears.
I remember I opened with I Dreamed I dream from
like miss and then Hold It against Me by Britney Spears,
and I closed with Till the World That's by bretnant
oh A lot of Britney. A lot of my English
(05:36):
was not good at the time, so a lot of lying.
I would sing sm M by Rihanna Britten would be
like none so.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Understood.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
They got it. I got it fifteen singing sm M
to my fifteen hundred something. Wow, yeah, ninety minutes? Can
you on a Monday work week?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
That sounds very sagittarius.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I love that people allowed to get up for like
bathroom breaks. Were you offended? Were people talking?
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I couldn't see it because we had production, we had lights,
we had pirate techniques, costume changes. Wow, I went full out.
That is amazing, even when as far as posting it
on YouTube. But don't worry, don't look for it. It's cutting.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
I want to.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I want to. You can look personally. You know what,
you guys should come over. I make some you guys
like salmon.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I like anything.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I'll make you guys some of my Pesta salmon.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Would be amazing and I'll play it for you. That
would be so amazing, anything and everything, like a regular ass,
Like you're not going to scare me some salmon. There's nothing,
but like, that's amazing. Imagine we're just at the Kings
that were like, damn, we just thought they were gonna dance,
and now we're here ninety minutes later.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I do after the ninety minutes, but I didn't dance
after I was too tired. But everyone else it.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
That's crazy. You just take a break for the rest
of the party.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
I did. I ate because I hadn't eaten old day
out of my nerves. I.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Wow, it was a performance of the show.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
It was. It was a show.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Didn't you like, get it, get it, get it getting.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
I didn't do that one because when I was in
rehearsals for it, my mom would rehearsals. When rehearsals for it,
my mom would like watch me rehearse and then approve
certain songs or not. I have to say. My parents
don't speak English. So she approved of S and M
because he was admitting with maybe one more time, but
she didn't approve slave for you because of that.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
No, it's questionable, and I'm like, these kids just have
slave to the music.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Mom.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I was so mad. It's not about sex, it's about
being a slave to the music. Wow.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
So your parents were like pretty liberal, I would say my.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Parents both my parents, So my parents were theater actors,
so you know, you'll that's how they met. Actually, but
both of my parents are very liberal. In fact, my
dad he's so pro human rights that he actually attended
the very first gay rights march in all of Mexico
as a country.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
But he went to Mexico City in March with the
community and everything as an ally.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Amazing ahead of his time. What are your parents' birthdays?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
My mom is sixty five, my daddy's fifty seventy. What
my dad's fifty seven?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
What is their birthday like actual birthdays?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
My daddy's February twenty eight, nineteen fifty seven. My mom
is August nine, nineteen sixty five, August ninety.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah, yes he didn't. I say my theory earlier. I
have this theory about pistist areas in Leo somewhere in
the next Really, it's kind of it's like this weird thing.
I keep saying. It's like a chronic relationship. But I
guess you got sad they did. It's like the prices
need their fire.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Well, my mom's Sagittarius and my dad is only your mom.
She loves you, show what I told her.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
She was like, what, yes, Okay, I don't know if
I'm allowed to bring this up anything. Are we allowed
to talk about There was an episode with your mom
took you guys around to like try I think and bandas.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Yes, yes, I remember that.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I fell in love with your mother. Love with your mother.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
So no, it was in Miami, I think it was, Yes,
yeah it was.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
It was amazing.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yes, the people you guys went and try and banadas
and they show how they made them and everything, and yes.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Yeah, she's a huge fan of a Yes, yeah, she
loves a show. The show is great.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I make amazing.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Who's another challenged actor we have to have on?
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:57):
And then I was like, wait a second. I connected
the dots and I was like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yes, I love him and he loves you too.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
I love him so much. I'm trying to go to
Disneyland with you guys at some point.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I'm ready. Let's do it. Whatever you need. We love it.
We're a little bit. Will you go at least three
times a month?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Oh my god, sixteen times every time she has a
parking spot there she has her own.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Not too much. I'm doing a universal deal.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
I go like maybe once or twice a year. I
would say I think that I get a little like
over the mead.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
I just went yesterday and I was there from ten
in the morning until twelve midnight.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Is hot.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Oh my god, I'm wearing today. Wow, it hurts. It
hurts good.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I like the hot dads.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
It was Father's Day. Oh my god, you guys. I
was like, this is I'm not I'm not a saint.
I'm not religious, and thank God because I'll be going
to hell.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Right, Oh my god. So I love dads. I just
love it because you just know that the demon works.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Oh somn, you're so.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I mean, you have your thoughts and your goals. Clear
things online for you works.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
It works for everyone else here, right, I always That's
all what I think about when I see it. Like,
by the way, snorts are welcome. Please, thank yeah, please
do your best self here.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Good because I have sleep o me too, so.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
You can bring our machines. We can go to the appointment.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
I actually got a bed that like recliins itself, because
I'm like, I don't know if I want to sleep
with a mask.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
I have I start using mouth tape.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
I'm scared that it works.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
It works, yeah, and right strip to open your nose
up more. Yes, because the thing with me sleep at
the thing with like you know, when we sleep, it's
like our jaws go back, like we open our mouths
and then that's like I think it's different like how
everybody sleeps. But so the mouth tape just closes your
(12:07):
mouth so it doesn't go back or open. At first,
you feel like I'm dying. But like a couple of
times I've heard that it works.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Oh my god, your brain looks And Talent.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Explained she got me on the nose tape to yes,
their breathe behesive, So yes, I can't really do it that.
I can't do any adhesive on me, like band aids.
They make me break out.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Oh, we're so sensitive, that's what i'd in some places.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
That's rumor on the street is you're sensitive. Talk about it.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Well, most uncircumcised guys are. We're very sensitive. You just
spit on your finger and touch it a little.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Where.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
So you moved to l A. What was the audition process, Like, like,
what was that whole process for UCLA? No? I mean like,
so how do you go from UCLA singing Britney? Now
you're in and movies.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Okay, I'm gonna give you the A bridge version. So
I moved halfway through high school to the United States, right,
and I had to go to community college because I
couldn't afford going to a four year I only had
been in the country for two years. I actually didn't
even have all the courses required, so that's why I
went to community college first. And I mean, I've been
training for musical theater because I was Music was my
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first love since I was seven years old, so I
kept that training here in the US. I went to
community college. And what's funny is that I initially auditioned
for UCLA because I wanted to have options. I actually
wanted to go to UC Irvine. And the reason why
is because when I had first moved to the US,
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I had a cousin who was attending UCLA, and they
took me to visit the campus and it looks so huge,
like I've never seen anything like that in my life.
And my cousin is also very very smart, like she
ended up getting accepted into Harvard Law and things like that.
So I remember walking into the campus and going, there's
no way, because you know, they took me there to
inspire me to pursue a college education. Goes to theater instead.
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But I walked into the campus and I was like,
there's no way I can ever make it into a
school like this. So I just auditioned to UCLA to
have back up schools. I wasn't expecting to get in.
I Actually it was like a very regular audition, but
what was different is that I was auditioning with the
incoming freshman class, but because I was a transfer, I
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had to match the level of the soon to be
junior class.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
So I had to get a perfect score in the acting,
the singing, and the dancing. And I was actually the
first person in ten years to be a trunk to
be accepted as a transfer student into the musical theater
program and the only Latino in my classic class of
twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Four empty.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
For musical theater.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Can I ask what do you think it was about
your performance that what do you think that you were like?
Gotam Like what was that moment that you were like,
Oh it was a note you hit?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
It was a lie. Honestly, I think it was a
dance audition because being a plusized person, which I've been
most of my life, people don't expect me to be
able to dance the right.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
And the thing is like I've been training jazz and
musical theater styles and even a little bit of about
let since I was seven, So I have the technique
and I have my dad's genes, which and also I
grew up watching Britney Spears, Lady Gaga, Janet Jackson, like Beyonce,
all these women who I learned through their performance. So
I think they were really shocked by the dance audition.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
And I had a teacher, a professor told me a
few years later, she's like, your dance audition was so
interesting because we saw you walk into the room and
with older respect. She said, we saw a bigger kid
and we did not expect him to be able to
move like that.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Very interesting, and I.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Know she meanted with love, but it sucks.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Really, you haven't even seen me yet.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
It's also interesting to point out the way that people's
minds think, right, and that also just goes to show that, like,
don't judge anybody by the way that they look right away,
like you're not. You'll never know what we're capable of
until you sit down, shut up and watch me, you know. So,
Like I'm glad that you were able to have that moment.
You might be so young for this. But there's a
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movie from the eighties called The Flashdance, and the whole
movie is about how like she wants to get into
like Julliard and j Lo we created in her videos
and she has this moment where she's like she brings
like breakdancing to ballet so like that she makes all
like the judges like shut up, and she has this
like what a fit moment And I feel like I
saw that for you in my head where you're like,
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I'll send you the clips so you can like I
would die if you recreated that, just as like an
eighties child. That left Jennifer Beals, who also was in the.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Word But you're an eighties child, I was.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I'm eighteen eighty seven, so like I'm at the end
of the eighties.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
What moisturize?
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Oh thanks Babes Botoks and the Out of the Sun?
I thank you. I never I'm never in the sun.
I hate the sun. That's why I we're like Disneyland.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
There's not enough when it's like sunny sun.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
No no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I get like there. I'm very patient, but the quickest
way to get me to panic is heat and not
being able.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
To that's such a lie you love Oh not that
kind of anyway.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
So, you know, speaking on like body neutrality and everything,
like how what was your journey like to be I mean,
I don't like when people are like, how are you
so confident? And it's like you're insinuating that, like because
of the way I look or my size, that I
shouldn't be confident, but I am defined, like define the odds,
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like in every movie when it's like, oh my god,
he loves her despite her way. Yes, you know, like
what was your journey in kind of being confident enough
to like go in that audition and be like, fuck, yeah,
I'm gonna do a little one two step litverrass dazzhole.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Yeah. Well, I think in the honestly, because that's another
thing you mentioned something very important recently, and as a
flate of last year, I stopped using body positivity in certainty. Yeah,
because actually, since two thousand and two, I've been deconstructing
a lot of my thoughts surrounding diet culture and size
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and what that means and the relation to health, et cetera,
et cetera, because I've had struggles with food, my whole life.
And the only time that I was skinny is before
the age of ten or small and when I was
fifteen when I did a super strict diet and I
love the lunch a bunch of weight. The thing about
it is every time that I was smaller, it was
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never enough for people. I was always getting the comment
of if you lose weight, you would look more handsome,
or people would be like, why are you going into
this industry? They don't cast fat people. I have family
members go as for us to tell me, and a
skinny actor can play a fat person, but a fat
person will never be able to play a skin act.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Wow like that doing something with that? That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I'm like projecting, yeah, real. But it's been an up
like a roller coaster, you know, and ups and downs.
And I think that when I'm performing, I'm the most confident,
and I forget, Yeah, you know, I forget because I'm
doing what I look. I forget and it's like, I
also trust. Here's the thing. I trust that I've trained
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first of all, that I've done the work. But most importantly,
I am a huge believer that work ethic and past
we're always shine brighter than anything. Then looks then pure talent,
Like so I know that I've done the work, and
I just like whenever I get on stage or on set,
it's like I genuinely do give my one hundred and
ten percent because I love it, and you know, so
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I I go into that mindset. But since two thousand
and sorry, twenty twenty two, I've been doing a lot
of work. Do they construct my.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
It's hard because it's you start realizing that voice who
is telling you that stuff. It doesn't sound like ourselves.
It sounds like fat phobia from that has been ingrained
from generations and capitalism and you know, all of that stuff.
And then you start to think, like, well, how do
I truly feel about my body? And my thing is
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like I I truly feel Yeah, how do I truly
feel about my body? And I also think for plus
sized people and just bigger people, it's harder for us
to break in to the industry because everyone's getting and
there's nothing wrong with LiPo at all. But like I,
I love to see a double chin. I love to
see a double chin. I need to see more. I
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want to see more double chins out there. I don't
want to be like self conscious about mine all the time.
I want it like that's what I want to see,
you know, and there's not enough. Everyone's getting LiPo just fine,
you know. I think everybody should have autonomy over their
own bodies. But I'm like, I want to see like
a belly, I want to see arms, I want to
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see Cellulie like and and not. And I want it romanticized.
I want it to be the bigger plot. I don't
want to be the main plot of the entire thing
where it's like my entire identity is revolved around. It
can be in a way that's like transformative for the
peace or whatever, but like, I don't want it to
be the type casting, right, do you find that a
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lot like in auditions where you find it or something?
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I find it more because I audition both in Mexico
and here. Okay, in all of the auditions that I've
done over the last four years, maybe there's been three
that is like, this person has to be plusized and
it's not always like a self deprecating character. Sometimes sometimes
it is. But I actually get those more from Mexico.
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I don't think I booked anything in Mexico, and I'm
not trying to be shady. I'm just saying the truth facts.
I don't think that I've booked anything in Mexico because sorry,
I don't think I have that sexy gay look per
se on one end, but also every plusize character that
i've been or I found, it's like a violent character,
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like you know, like the bullies that are often perceived
was like being big.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
And yeah, so that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
So I've seen it. No, to my knowledge, No, I've
been very bullied.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
I say that I've been.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
I have an older brother and I would bully him
a lot because he would bully me, so I would
have to.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
That's defensing.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
Okay, you're right, I was defending myself.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
I mean, I guess I've been a bullying This is
like I've stood over myself and sometimes like I say
really mean things that hurt people. Yeah, like I just
go straight for them. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Well, I feel like it's a young gay kid that
used to get bullied. I had to learn how to
be really quick and I would get defensive before I
would get like nice. And so I kind of for
a very long time was a mean gay until actually
until I was a mean gay in person, like in
real life until I was maybe like fifteen maybe, and
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then online I was a sassy gay until I was
like twenty something, and then I was like at Buzzbeat,
I had to ask them like, I'm actually not that
sassy and mean in real life. Can you guys stop
writing me every time they had a character for any
video that, I was like, I hate those shits. I
hate the ugliest covered every sing my whole life, like
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because can you do this really fast? And I'm like, actually,
I think that cup is pretty fantastic, and those shoes
like great on you. They really bring your eyes out,
you know, like huh that It's like a thing that
I just.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Never no it is, I mean for me because I
didn't come out until I was twenty one, twenty one
something like that. It was a year twenty How.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Did you come out? Girl?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
You really wanted that story?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Yeah, So of course, as a lot of people do,
I came out as bisexual first. But it was a
day before my last year at community college. The night
before and my parents and I were went to dinner
at Chili's love It.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Do you get the triple Dipper? I?
Speaker 1 (24:37):
No, I don't remember what I got. I don't think
I was not hungry anyways, because the whole thing was
like I had come out to one of my best
friends who was my theater acting teacher in high school,
and she was an adult. She was a full blown adult,
grown adult, late late forties. So I came out to
her when I was already I call it student because
(25:01):
I just needed the safety of an adults. And of
course she was amazing. She always was. She always knew
as they always do. But with my parents, we went
to Chili's and I told them in a booth, I'm like,
I have something to say, and then I came out
as my sexual initially but I couldn't say it, and
I was like, wow, I will say I grew up
(25:21):
with like the most supporting parents, Like I would dress
you guys know what that DNA is, the one that
sings for children. I would dress up as her when
I was a kid, and my parents would never like
not like they always encouraged it.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yeah, I mean after brittany performance, that's.
Speaker 7 (25:37):
Coming out there, like they're like, well know, and they
was knowing, Like my mom had caught gay porn in
my computer twice when it's thirteen and one of I
probably wouldn't say that, and one.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
At sixteen, that's all I got. Yeah, I was like,
it's virus. It's virus on Disney Channel dot Car. I'm like,
I was you. Oh yeah, I was playing the game.
I click one of those announcements that you want an iPad,
it's a virus.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Oh my god, I said the same thing. That's crazy.
I was so dead. Okay, so then you're the like
and then I.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Was like, I'm basic. And then I started crying and
she started crying, and she's like it would be And
my dad at the time was like, I think it's
beautiful that you can love everyone. And then you know,
a few years later, I'm wearing high heels glitter makeup,
and I think they figure it out.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
But then it always happens that way, Like I'll have
like I came out when I was twelve thirteen, and
I feel like all my friends that came out like
later on in life, like it takes them like forty
eight hours to fucking bring out the glitter, the wings
they have like fake lashes on all of a sudden,
you know, you just come out yesterday atour thirty. I
don't know how we got to so I love it
because it's like you're finally like liberated.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
But the one what was crazy for me is at
my extended family. So when I won the Critics Choice Award,
I was able to invite my aunt and my uncle
who helped us immigrate to the States. And I had
never talked about my sexuality, like they saw how I
expressed on social media and stuff like that, but I've
never like properly come out to them. So I came
(27:14):
out to them during my speech winning the Critics Choice
And it was important for me to have him there
because it was like as a thank you of like,
thanks to you helping me immigrate to this country. I'm
making my dream come true all these things. But I
also just dropped the bump to them. They knew, but
like actually told them, yeah my speech, I'm like, I'm gad, yes, I.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Love that so fucking much. I also just loved the
idea of anybody like for me, I've never had the
ability to hide my gainess like I used to, Like
I would wear high, high high sauce, I would wear
big T shirt, I would pretend to be Selena, and
I would pretend to be in the band in Vogue,
and so when I came out, it was like girl,
(27:57):
nobody surprise that you.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Yeah. I mean I just I was very like like
I would dress up more like as a woman person
or feminine when I was really little, like a toddler. Yes,
and then you know, things get in the way and
life and comments and stuff like that. So I was
never like I was always very clean and stuff like that.
So I was never but everyone.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Knew I also just like at a young age before
I got outed, because they looked through like my my
porn history. I just went through like a phase where
I was just jacking off like crazy all the time.
I was so horny, and I just always think I'm
sure smelled like semen.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Really Like I just like, now you know that I'm.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Kind of like in my whole phase, I'm like, oh,
I can smell that shit, like but I didn't think
like I'm this thirteen year old kid. I'm like getting
the little CD of AOL but plugging it in, signing
on and then just like going ham like just like
looking for Brad Pitt, like just anything that I could find.
And I always just think like, not only that I
(29:00):
just read as a gay person, but I probably just
smell they probably just like this.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Fucking you know, you want to hear something funny. Yes, please,
this is something that I've never I've told this story
to a lot of my cowork like my cast and
stuff like that, but this isn't something that I've never
said publicly.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Please, if you've heard it here first, you've heard it first.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
I've gotten two work with like three of my crushes
that helped me figure it out.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
It's gay wall you'd work with them? That is the
sweetest breaking news. I probably going to say that you've
had it took.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Like the bra well of people who know they can
look through.
Speaker 8 (29:41):
Your Wait, so you've worked with people that you've like,
I'm not gonna I'm going to say that, Okay, Okay,
I can't. I can't confirm nor denying okay on them.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
I love that so much. I genuinely thought you were
going to be like, I've worked with three actors that
I fucking like before I got to what or something
like but you just had crushes on But they helped me,
you know, find myself and find.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Your which sexuality?
Speaker 2 (30:15):
M h.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
M hmm.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Yeah. Yes.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Takes us into the love portion of the podcast.
Speaker 9 (30:32):
We love.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
That's our favorite topic.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
I love love love.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
When you're in the bestie club, we talked about our crushes.
You opened it up, you started it, I did. What
do you look for in a partner?
Speaker 1 (30:48):
You know, I'm going to tell you because you guys
can help me, because I have the worst.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Look.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I want someone who is very passionate about what they believe. Okay,
someone who's not Republican Okay, someone who hates Trump, like
someone has morals wonderful, No, but honestly, just someone that's
very respectful, especially with like because we don't have to
be from the same culture background or ethnic background. But
(31:18):
be respectful. You know what I'm saying. Latinos have a
different sense of boundaries and you're gonna respect absolutely. I
guess handle that. And also is like if my mom
is my whole life, my mom is my whole life. Yes,
if my mom is my religion, you're gonna respect that.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I love that so much. See, I'm very big on
that too. Like when I date, I'm like, your mom's
my mom? What's up? But also to your mom has
to treat me like her kids too. It can't be
one way you your mom, Like if you if I'm
let's say it, was me and you dating and your
mom just made you breakfast, I'd be like, damn the
bagel and creempeas.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
You know what I mean. My mom would like embrace exactly.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
But that's why, like I'm like, sometimes, don't treat you
like the like you're there.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Yeah, basically somebody who understands the family is everything.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Well maybe not everything. Yes, I have my reservations about
that too.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Your parents my.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Parents and if you're like, here's the thing, not because
they're your parents. You have to love them and respect
them because they're shitty people.
Speaker 9 (32:17):
You know.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
The family tree can be cut too. You know me too.
But I love my my my core family. It's amazing. Yeah,
and I love them to my heart. But to me
specifically that I want someone just that that's ambition, ambitions, ambitious,
englisious heart ambitious, but like in the fact that they
pursue their dreams, you know. Yeah, it's not about having
(32:39):
a lot of money inste like not do you want
to be the manager?
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Say be the manager. You're working your way up. You're
the district manager of six inch Sandwiches.
Speaker 9 (32:51):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Do you like I'm tall?
Speaker 1 (32:53):
You like I'm small? Like, Okay, I love different body types.
A lot of my friends give me crap, because yes,
I I A lot of my crushes and people that
I crush over are more of like they call it
the metrosexual look.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Describe that.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
I think the best way that I can describe it
is like, what's his face? Oh my god, Ryan Gosling
and Barbie.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Okay, but that's not I'm not strictly a little glossy.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Yeah, So that just that just gets you, like, you
know what I think it is. I think I do
think it's my own internalized fat phoby. I'm not gonna
but I think it's also the fact that I've never
been that and that's always been so glorified. So I
just feel like like it's something psychological that you want
to like because I've been with guys like in bed
(33:41):
that was cur I've been with guys with like really
amazing bodies, and it's not the same to hug them
as like hug them someone that's a little bit meteor
that feels nice. Okay, Yeah, So it's more of like
an aesthetic and psychological thing for me that I just
think it feels so unattainable. You know, when you when
you want what you can have. That's kind of what
it feels like. But that's what I'm not. You don't
have to be that way.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Yeah, I mean it's the opposite. I actually like when
I see glossy guys, I'm like, like nothing, I feel
nothing in my boins. Nothing opens up about me, nothing
gets wet. There's nothing about me that's like yeah yeah,
like but like a thick ems with a beard, a
little hairy.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
In like a jersey of some firiry hairy, like you
don't like Harry.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
See me too, Just like that's a hill that I'll
die on.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
That as wet head and a shower chest hair and
shower is one of the hottest.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
That's so sexy, so sexy.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
What do you like?
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Do you like? You like hairy.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Shower it? I have a lot of hair already, so
I'm like.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Girl, me too.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
You know, I don't know that it makes for some friction.
I'll tell you that. And like sometimes we both get
a little I'll tell.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
You when they say, like girls grow out your bush,
I'm like, have we not been?
Speaker 1 (35:10):
I thought we were, thought we were around.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
I got enough bush for all of us. But that's
what I like. I think for me, I like somebody
who is, uh, just chill, like just be chilling your body,
be cool, Like I know it's hard for us, right,
like for a lot of reasons, like being Latino. Latinos
are so critical.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Like okay, yes, like.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
You know, or being queer, right like all the things
of what it means to be queer, and then just
living in a society that glorifies like Instagram beauty, like
we do feel the need to look a certain type
of part. Like I've been very open about different things
that I've had, done, different things that have I just
didn't feel secure about. So I just wanted to fix it.
And it's like when do we kind of learn to
(36:03):
love ourselves? And I think that's kind of what I
want in a person who is like I know that
there's some things that I don't like, but fuck it, yeah,
you know, like there's some things that you might not
like about you, but I like them about you. I
actually hooked up with this and I talked about all
the time I have top with this one guy who like,
midway through kissing me, stopped me. He was like, I
need you to be president.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
I like you for you, like you're hot kiss me.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
I like everything that I see, and I have not
fucked in that I have not fucked the same sense.
Now I'm a pro. Now I'm like I know all
the different trade, I know what I like. Yes, but
he liberated me in a way that I.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Didn't know that I Yes, I'm very much personality. Like
they have to like exactly everything that you said, Like
they have to be passionate about their job and like
maybe a little bit of like having some family foundation
because that really influences I feel like me being turned
(37:01):
on or like getting intimate with them very much. Was
it's like heart's not parts heart parts. Yeah, but it's
also like if you can get to my brain, then
everything else is open. I like everything else is open.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Also, do you feel like because there's another one for me?
I feel like I'm more attracted to people who are
the opposite of me. Not attracted sexually, because I could
if your heart, I could probably get into you, but
like actually act around but anyway, like like to be
attracted to, like fall in love type of it has
(37:41):
to be someone who's the opposite of me. So I
love people who are calm and like not crazy like me,
because I'm a lot. I like someone that balances me out,
and that also someone who shows me new things. I
had a crush on this guy. Guys, I didn't know
what pantone was, like the color thing, and I used
to I was like, I saw his his pencil case
(38:02):
and he said, no, no, what is that and he
explained to me for the first time.
Speaker 9 (38:05):
I yes, yes, like yeah, show me the world.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Ye kind of moments where they like have they like
educate you on something and you're like respectfully and not
explain exactly where it's something creative where they're letting you
into their world like that.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Yeah, I love that ship too. I like when they
teach me about the different cheeses that Trader Joe's.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Yeah, I was gonna get dirt dirt about your cheese.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
Are cheese?
Speaker 1 (38:49):
You know that was a joke there, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Mean I would never This is a temporary hot topic.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
What is it called?
Speaker 9 (38:56):
What is it?
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Hot takes?
Speaker 2 (38:57):
And hot take the hot take six six hot?
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Yeah, careful, it's hot, Latina. You always okay?
Speaker 2 (39:08):
So you I can walk this over to you too,
because I think I can take it to mess up
because your might block you from remember because Gavin, what.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
I need to do. Don't just take up the topics.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Yes, take pick one, and it's whatever you get. If
you have a hot take about it, like an opinion,
then you know you can tell us.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
You know, I'm not just opinionated, but you'll be surprised
how you are about You just don't know myself and yeah, okay,
yeah whatever. The first one says, what does I say? Ghosts?
Speaker 9 (39:45):
Ghost?
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Ghost, ghosting? I'm like ghost real, just throwing in my house. No, no, no,
it's I mean, what do you want ghost? I've done ghosting,
but to people who deserved it, well in my specific case,
(40:10):
which is the only time that I've done it, because honestly,
I don't have a good luck with relationious stuff, relationship stuff.
The one time that I did it is this guy
just was very fat phobic and was constantly talking about
if I would be like have I ever been interested
in changing my body?
Speaker 9 (40:31):
Things like that. So I.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
We were supposed to see each other and I canceled
and then I kind of like stopped replying to that.
Yeah that was deserving, But I think it's the only
one that I've ghosted. I mean, i've ghosted. I don't
know if this is ghosting, but like sometimes I've had
fans of the show email me, like, I mean, email me.
What am I a millennial? I'm so sorry you guys,
(41:00):
I can't see it. My brother is thirty four about
base airty four year old. I'm cool, No, you are cool.
I love I wish I was in my thirties. Anyway,
it's ghosting. I've ghostid. I guess people like fans who
like tell me, oh great tits show them more and
then I go thank you, and then they say something else,
and I like, man, stop responding. Oh yeah, it's different.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
I think like with that, like there's that's boundary's a
boundary boundary, So.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
I haven't the whole thing or just yea, yeah, so
I don't. I don't think i've ghosted much.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
I'm like a big proponent of ghosting. Like I also
just go to a guy recently. I hope you might
see this. I don't know, but like he showed up
to our date drunk and I don't drink. I'm ten
years sober and you do that, Oh yeah, that's raight
drunk and not like a cute tipsy where like sometimes
I'll hang out the guy and like I can smell
the whiskey in his breath and maybe a cigarette and
I'm like, I'm like, oh baby, I'm gonna relapse in
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your mouth, like not that kind of a thing. It
was like imagine, but like this one was like he
couldn't he fun.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Was your name again?
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Wait? What was your name again? Like and he knew
my name, but so it was like you already asked
me the same question three times, which happens.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
When you're not even try.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
It's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
I kind of had to let it like go.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
I was like, I'm sorry, and like I just didn't
think that that I don't I didn't want to have
to come to Jesus convo with him.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
Yeah, ghosting is like I mean, I feel like my
opinion has changed a lot. Like the very first season
of this, I was like, no ghosting, It is like
so offensive because I have been ghosted before a lot.
Why they don't know? Yeah, And and but then there
was a time when I did go somebody and because
(42:41):
I think I just truly didn't know how to end it.
And I didn't know and it was like we went
on one date and this date, he like was so
self conscious to eat, and so every time I would
turn my head he would like eat his burgers so fast,
and so I spent the entire.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Date like well he was like.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
It was like so young really like I love language
just like and then I turned back and he'd be like,
you know, and I was like, I don't know if
like this like that's cute for some people.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Right, and almost like how do you have such a
vulnerable conversation with someone you just meant too? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (43:25):
And I just kind of like after that, I just
he was hot. He played the tuba and he had
like yeah, he was named tuba guy and he like biceps, biceps,
tuba guy Sagittarius. Also, I'm sure it would have worked out,
but I just like I didn't know how to end
it or how to so eventually he said like, you know,
(43:45):
you can just say that you're not interested in me.
You know that's like, oh, okay, yeah, I'm not so
right in my mind yet.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Yeah, I don't already that conversation, you know, Like I don't.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
Oh, I just feel like it's like a to me.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
It's also more hurtful in my opinion, to be like
it hurts me more. It hurts me more personally when
somebody tells me like oh, I'm not interested or that
for whatever reason, versus like we just fade out. I'd
much rather we just fade out. I can read the room.
You can read the room. There's no some people can't
read the room.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
So people can read the room.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
Can you ghost friends?
Speaker 3 (44:29):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Okay, So here's my thing about that, because then you
said something right now that kind of like trigger this.
I'm going through a face in my life where I
don't waste my time with people that don't deserve it,
including friends and family members. Am I don't. I can't
say that return seven good, But I learned that, like, like,
(44:54):
there are friendships that I have to let go. In
the last literally four like since the show, since I
booked my show, a lot of people's true colors have
come out.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
It always when you become more successful.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
Exactly and you start, you know, And what happened was
I started ghosting people who would like ignore me and
then try to make an effort to save the relationship.
And I'm like, I'm sorry. I learned that I actually
don't want or need your relationship or you don't deserve
what I have to offer, so I don't answer good
for you.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
I think people show up in different ways, like people
will either hate on your success and you have to
be like, I don't want to be with people who
are happy for me, or they suddenly want like you
more and you're like, you didn't fuck with me when
I was doing this, why would you want to?
Speaker 1 (45:54):
And I also learned that, like, especially with like friendships
and like close relationships, I'm only going to talk to
you about something that bothers me to fix it if
I care about us heart. Yeah, that's why I just
goes them because I'm like, you're not worth my energy.
There's nothing to solve here, there's nothing to talk. You
don't deserve me. Yeah, So did you hear that you
don't don't deserve me? This's belly enough for you.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
And speaking of not deserving, I'm going to the astrology
portion of the podcast. So you said you're sagittarius. Do
you know you're rising in your mood?
Speaker 1 (46:29):
No? But you know why we haven't been able to
figure out because I cannot find my birth time anywhere
and my mom just goes, I come on squat yea,
So we don't know.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
Okay, I mean, what do you what do you think
you might be?
Speaker 1 (46:41):
I don't know. I just know that I'm a scus
the thing, I believe in astrology, yes, but I'm not
really I'm very ignorant on the topic.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
That's the best place to be in, I think, because
you're just like, we don't want anything.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
I believe all of it because I believe in I
grew up doing theater in Mexico. They taught us a
lot about metaphysics and manifestation and the energy and universe
and all that stuff, so I believe in it. I
just never taken the time to educate myself on it.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
You know, whos mom? I know, yeah, that part right now.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
I feel like you're also like your mom's like, like,
oh you're your mom's Oh I am.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
And my dad's daughter too. I'm like a perfect combination
of both of them because I feel like in my
career and performing, I'm like I can turn it on,
but then I'm very much like introverted like my dad.
My dad's a musician and I learned how to sing
and play instruments from him. And then as far as
like the you know, hey, look at the you know
it's my mom's side and yeah, my dad's a leo
(47:49):
and my mom's Sagittarius, my brother's a Leo, and so
I'm I'm Aries.
Speaker 1 (47:55):
Yes, question, is that controversial?
Speaker 4 (47:59):
No?
Speaker 3 (48:00):
Who says it?
Speaker 1 (48:01):
Okay? Which Aries? Okay, here's I'm bringing up Lizzo into
the conversation. Yeah, she did the like test thing and
you know that there might be an Aries, and she's like,
I'm not a fucking Aries, and I can think.
Speaker 3 (48:17):
What the listen, Lizzo's a tourists and we've on our
last episode we had tourist needs to take accountability and
what has she not done? Damn well, I don't know. Allegedly,
I don't know anything that's going on, but I'm just saying,
if you want to come, I don't know. No, but
(48:38):
I'm I'm a March Aries, which is like different than
April arias. I think a lot of like the bad
like kind of jujus around April aries because they are
very much like like prominent fiery arias. I'm more like
water down, got a little bit in my But my
moon sign is Aries, and it's closer to like Aries
(49:01):
Taurus cusp. So the way I act with my emotions
can be very much the Aris that I talked shit about.
But then my rising is Piscy so very much like
you know, watery and floating, and so when and if
we get your birth time, we can totally determine that.
But I'm feeling a little Pisces. I feel like you
(49:23):
may be have like a I feel like you might
have the same places as my mom.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
I feel like they like air signs and there, I
feel like a.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
Rising Aquarius or something.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
What days your mom?
Speaker 3 (49:33):
She's December tenth.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
Okay, so I'm eighteenth. Okay, So she's also getting close
to the which we.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Also drag like all the signs, like we know why
each sign is toxic, like Aries, like all the fire signs,
I can tell you why they're toxic. I can tell
you why the air signs, why the water signed toxic.
But Earth signs Vergo, Capricorn, and Tauruses, like we just
we front like we're not toxic, you know what I mean.
Like it's like, what do you mean me? And you're like, yes, bitch,
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you exactly, like you're just like you know, I mean
perfect right the same time, she double scorpioso.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
Yeah, her moon is her moonries.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
I think I thought her moon scorpio either.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
She's a rising Aries or she has either rising scorpio
or rising moon.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
Or sorry, yeah, I'm a double, I'm a scorpio. I'm
a virgo double scorpio. But I feel like we have
trouble admitting our toxicity, Like our toxicity is admitting not
being able to admit ship. So that's why I'm like,
you don't want to be a cat?
Speaker 1 (50:36):
Do you feel such a sarious about my toxicity?
Speaker 2 (50:40):
No?
Speaker 3 (50:40):
Just like, yeah, do you feel like you guys are toxic?
Speaker 1 (50:43):
I've been told that, I'm okay, are you toxic? Well? Jokingly,
what's your what's off the top of your head? For instance,
my friend son is always calling me out because, for instance,
like she just got married about a year ago, and
I'm always like making about me instead of like being
like she's how merry I go? But she left me
for that man things like that. Okay, So I'm toxic
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in that way. And most of the times it's just humor.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
I'm part of being theater though that you wanted to
be the spotlight on you.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
Theater and gay yes, yeah, and Latino I mean watching
that's growing up. Like I'm sorry, but I don't know,
I don't know if I'm actually toxic, toxic.
Speaker 2 (51:20):
What's one of your toxic traits? Though? You think, like
if you're in a date, We're at dinner now and
we're sitting across from each other, all of us, and
we're asking you tell us one of your toxic traits.
Speaker 1 (51:32):
It's being jealous? Being toxic?
Speaker 2 (51:34):
You could be yeah, jealous. Do you sneak into their
phones and they're not looking? No?
Speaker 1 (51:40):
No, no, no, I don't think I could ever. I mean,
I've never had a partner to actually exercise option. Yeah,
but it would scare me because here's the thing. I
will say. One thing about me is like I'm of
the belief that God because I don't believe in God,
He's like, you are not allowed to misbehave because every
time growing up that I would misbehave me too. My
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brother always music.
Speaker 2 (52:02):
Hay yeah clear history, No one would.
Speaker 1 (52:04):
Know me, I would forge a signature, they would fucking
find out. So I never music hate so because I'm
so afraid of people finding out things I don't. But like,
I am the type of guy that will like get
jealous if like my crushes hanging out with one of
another guy that.
Speaker 2 (52:18):
Is not what's one of your toxic traits? I can't
think of anything right now, let me think I care
well I can be one of mine. I do this
thing where I like, I kind of like have positive
what is it called toxic positivity? I have toxic positivity
where I like, you'll be like my ankle herts and
(52:39):
I'm like, no, it doesn't like you, just like it's
your shoe or something.
Speaker 1 (52:44):
Never body, wait, I have a question of another one.
Speaker 2 (52:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:50):
I realize the other day that I when I like someone,
I kind of like tore myself down a little bit,
like I I minimize. Like the other day I was
talking to someone that I liked and I said that
I cheated my way into getting into u c l A,
which part of me does believe. But I'm like, you
shouldn't do that. No here, but like, how do you
(53:14):
see actually cheat? I'm gonna make that clear.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
You way until you into their hearts.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
I just I finished all my ges before in community
like before getting to u c l A and community college,
so I wouldn't have to deal with that.
Speaker 3 (53:28):
And that's not cheat that you worked hard, Like I'm not.
Speaker 1 (53:32):
Your stereotypical super book smart U c l A students,
but look where you are, babes.
Speaker 2 (53:40):
Yeah, because I had diarrhea and I.
Speaker 3 (53:43):
Still have got one brain cell holding on for their life.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
I am that brain cell.
Speaker 1 (53:50):
You guys are iconic. I'm like, I would like to
take this opportunity to say that I'm making a dream
come true by being on these people's podcasts because I
grew up watching them, which I know that sounds weird,
but that's an immigrantic means a lot, and now being
interview man.
Speaker 2 (54:03):
Hell yeah, and you're even like one of our funest interviews.
Speaker 1 (54:06):
Yeah, so much fun. You're killing kidding? Should I'm down?
Speaker 2 (54:11):
Which sign you have a bony pick with?
Speaker 3 (54:14):
Honestly ubs you the wrong way?
Speaker 2 (54:16):
Who?
Speaker 1 (54:17):
Both Leo's and scorpios. Leo's because my mom and my
brother are Leo's is so nicios.
Speaker 2 (54:24):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (54:25):
They always want to be right. They don't know how
to apologize, okay, and like they goes like they're stopburn,
stop burn and stopburn, and.
Speaker 3 (54:35):
Like one are their birthdays?
Speaker 1 (54:37):
Uh, mom is August nine and my brother is August fifteenth.
Speaker 3 (54:42):
Yeah, August.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
Leo's like white scorpios because one specific guy who was
a scorp First of all, I'm scared of scorpios, like
the animal itself.
Speaker 2 (54:52):
I love scorpions. I haven't tattooed on the.
Speaker 1 (54:54):
Scare the ship out of me. That in snakes I
love because.
Speaker 2 (54:57):
And I have snakes. I love snakes. I own a snake.
Speaker 1 (55:00):
Okay, we could never go out.
Speaker 2 (55:05):
I'm sure you would like, I'm sure you would change
your mind.
Speaker 3 (55:13):
We're doing.
Speaker 2 (55:16):
No. But did you see when they killed Wednesday Scorpion
in the show?
Speaker 1 (55:19):
I was so sad.
Speaker 2 (55:20):
I cried. It was the saddest thing.
Speaker 3 (55:21):
Did you I can see you on that show.
Speaker 1 (55:24):
I auditioned for the Oh my god, I would love
to be in that show.
Speaker 2 (55:29):
You will be on you know what?
Speaker 1 (55:31):
I what my dream job is? You know how they're
doing John and cho is doing the Britney biopic based
on her book. Yes, I have to play Britney Spears.
I'm not a white, skinny woman, but I would play
the hell out of Okay. I can do multiple things.
I can do. I'm high and Britney Spears. That's like
early nineties high and Britney Spears. I'm so excited to
(55:51):
be here, thank you, ma'am. And then if she's singing live,
she's like and she's like.
Speaker 3 (56:03):
And it doesn't always.
Speaker 1 (56:17):
And she was like, really need to really did. She's
like she sings, don't let me do the listeners like
my friends your so in.
Speaker 3 (56:26):
You know, you can hear the young Brittany or she could.
She can sing sing sing, I don't care, I don't care,
and then you can hear when they like wanted to
put her do a machine.
Speaker 1 (56:39):
And you know, Brittany, I'm a Brittany Cone, Yes, historian.
I'm a historian. I learned English through her music. I
will say she was always my number one, but Gaga.
That was always my number two. But Gaga has been
just killing it. And I'm like, Brittany, tom I always
close my ship.
Speaker 3 (57:00):
Because you danced. You did the dancing.
Speaker 2 (57:02):
Yeah, what's your other favorite song on the album?
Speaker 1 (57:07):
My favorite song on the album three? Well, my top
is how bad do you want me to.
Speaker 2 (57:15):
Love?
Speaker 4 (57:16):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (57:16):
Perfect celebrity, just because of the message.
Speaker 2 (57:19):
For me, it's big.
Speaker 1 (57:23):
I do love Garden of Eden, though my friend John
says that I'm guarding of Eden boy. I like something boy,
but I didn't like that until she performed it, lived it, yeah,
which I think is a little I didn't hate it,
and you know, but I was.
Speaker 3 (57:37):
Like, she's also an aries and that concludes the astrology portion.
Speaker 2 (57:44):
Oh, thank you so much for hanging out with us.
Speaker 1 (57:47):
You were a dream.
Speaker 3 (57:50):
Bestie in the bestie club. Congratulations Emily, my best friend Emily.
Speaker 1 (57:58):
My friend Emily is obsessed with like you guys, will
I like se I can even speak. We lost our
minds when you guys started following me on social In fact,
oh my god, can I just tell a quick story.
My very first red carpet was the opening night of
(58:19):
head Over Heels at passagona playhouse, which you were there,
which was that the Friday night.
Speaker 2 (58:25):
Okay, head Over.
Speaker 1 (58:27):
Heels is with the music with the go gos head Over.
You were there, and you had just followed me on
Instagram a few weeks before, and the show was already
out a couple and stuff like that. And I kept
telling my friend. I was like, oh my god, I
want to say hi, because he followed me, so I
could say hi, right, I could not gather what gather
(58:54):
the strength to come. I was to starstruck. I was like,
I couldn't. No, I met you in person. Yeah, today,
I came in so late that I didn't get to
like stare at you.
Speaker 2 (59:15):
So much.
Speaker 1 (59:15):
No, but I'm very like, from the bottom of my heart,
you guys like this means the world like this is
one of the special things about what I do is symptimes.
I cannot believe that I get to share space, conversation, thoughts,
arts and crafts and you know, all of it with
like people that I have looked up to and that
when I started off in this country made me feel
(59:37):
not alone. So thank you for having love me so much,
and thank you for what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (59:43):
You are like paving the way for and opening doors
for so many people who don't think that they have
a way and they see you in your beautiful, sparkly outfit.
Speaker 1 (59:54):
Absolutely, I'm currently unemployed, so I might start doing that
if you want me to your king, let me know please,
I can speak English now I want. You'll find you
on social media. You can find me at Fernando everywhere.
(01:00:15):
It's like Gasa with an R in the middle.
Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
I love what we have to like do those I know?
Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Yeah? Absolutely, my working people find you.
Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
You can find me Maya in the Moment m A
y A and the moment anywhere you scroll. What about you,
Curly You.
Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Can find me at the Curly v Show on Instagram
and TikTok and YouTube.
Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
Thank you with us.
Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
You are fucking amazing.
Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
I love you.
Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
You are.
Speaker 6 (01:00:43):
Make sure to hit that subscribe button to hear more
episodes every single week. The Super Secret Bestie Club podcast
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Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
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It's not about sex, about being a slave to the music.
I have family members go as for us to tell me,
and a skinny actor can play a fat person, but
a fat person will never be able to play a
skinny act. Wow, we're not going to say I'm going
to say that.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Okay, Okay, I can't.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
I can't confirm your The nine, Okay, but I had
crushes on them. I'm a going through a face in
my life where I don't waste my time with people
that don't deserve it. You're not worth my energy. There's
nothing to solve here, there's nothing to talk. You don't
deserve me.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
My name is Curly and I'm Maaya.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
The Super Secret Best Called Podcast Season four is here.
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And we're locked in. That means more juicy cheese man,
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Speaker 3 (00:42):
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Speaker 2 (00:45):
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Speaker 3 (00:47):
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Speaker 2 (00:49):
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Speaker 4 (00:59):
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Speaker 3 (01:02):
Welcome to another episode of The Super Secret Bestie Club Podcast.
We have another special guest up here.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
A new best looking super fabulous. Today, My goodness, Today
we have Fernando Carzada, right right.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Right, Okay, you're one of the few people fer.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Fernando Carca is a rising star from Colima, Mexico, best
known for playing Memo on Apple TV Plus series The
Possibly Such Terrists. I Am Possibly Such Terris is a
trained actor, singer, and a danza who started performing at
just seven years old. Yes, supposedly Selena started at eight
(01:50):
years old, so you want that one, I guess. After
moving to the US, Fernando earned a THEATA Arts degree
from Fullerton College.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Correct, what is that?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Like?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I learned a lot. Here's the thing I ended up
transferring to four years later u c L A later.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Mexican theater program.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Very much, very proud of Uncut l A me too. Anyways,
we changed the title of the podcast.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Club No, but it was honestly a very both experiences
I think made me the artist that I am today.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, because bulletin is kind of like no when.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I think there were a lot of Latinos there, but.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
When I think gay rights, I don't think bulletin no shape.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Nothing in Orange County really, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Mean, no shade to Orange County. But you made your
TV TV debut t V t V t G TV
debut with where your performance earned major praise, and more recently,
you appeared in the paramount plus rom com at Midnight,
Yes and Beyond acting. Fernanda is an advocate for body
(03:07):
positivity and LGBTQ plus representation, and you even won the
TWOY twenty four Critics Choice Rising.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Star war Rising Star, which this year was given to
Benito Scanner for overcompensating. And I was like, why are
we in the same the year before?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
But you need to have him on your show, another
possibly uncut individual. Perhaps, yes, allegedly allegedly.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
We need a plus size gate and overcompensed the show.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
But we don't need we plus plus gate anywhere at
all time.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I need a plus size gay life.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Wait, so you're from Maic originally?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
When did you move to l A. How old are you?
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Twelve years ago? April? I was fifteen? Wow, yeah so
to you? Yeah, I did have a king sign on
Facts and then four months later I moved to the
US vehicles.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I did, But.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
You know what I did instead?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, what you do?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Instead of doing the surprise dance, I did have a
missa so we did go to church and people were
very shocked and like people were like pricing in the
middle of the ceremony, being like more men should do this.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Oh my god, religious at all.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
But you know, back then, I'm a.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Big mesa girl. I'm a Misa, like, oh yeah, Senoras
love me. I'm like, I go to I go to
it and I meet any Senora any party, and I'm like, Senora,
I never drink your casino familiar. It was like yeah,
and they're.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
Perfect from yeah, You're like you love me, son, they
love me.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
But then they see about had it and I know
they're like, it's okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Do you end up getting their numbers?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
They asked, remember a lot, which is fine. I love
I am a Senora and body I am too. Okay,
So you and I did, but you know how they
do the surprise. Yes, I didn't do that. I did
a ninety minute concert.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I made my guest ninety minutes Britney Spears. Britney Spears.
I remember I opened with I Dreamed I dream from
like miss and then Hold It against Me by Britney Spears,
and I closed with Till the World That's by bretnant
oh A lot of Britney. A lot of my English
(05:36):
was not good at the time, so a lot of lying.
I would sing sm M by Rihanna Britten would be
like none so.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Understood.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
They got it. I got it fifteen singing sm M
to my fifteen hundred something. Wow, yeah, ninety minutes? Can
you on a Monday work week?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
That sounds very sagittarius.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I love that people allowed to get up for like
bathroom breaks. Were you offended? Were people talking?
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I couldn't see it because we had production, we had lights,
we had pirate techniques, costume changes. Wow, I went full out.
That is amazing, even when as far as posting it
on YouTube. But don't worry, don't look for it. It's cutting.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
I want to.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I want to. You can look personally. You know what,
you guys should come over. I make some you guys
like salmon.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I like anything.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I'll make you guys some of my Pesta salmon.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Would be amazing and I'll play it for you. That
would be so amazing, anything and everything, like a regular ass,
Like you're not going to scare me some salmon. There's nothing,
but like, that's amazing. Imagine we're just at the Kings
that were like, damn, we just thought they were gonna dance,
and now we're here ninety minutes later.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I do after the ninety minutes, but I didn't dance
after I was too tired. But everyone else it.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
That's crazy. You just take a break for the rest
of the party.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
I did. I ate because I hadn't eaten old day
out of my nerves. I.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Wow, it was a performance of the show.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
It was. It was a show.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Didn't you like, get it, get it, get it getting.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
I didn't do that one because when I was in
rehearsals for it, my mom would rehearsals. When rehearsals for it,
my mom would like watch me rehearse and then approve
certain songs or not. I have to say. My parents
don't speak English. So she approved of S and M
because he was admitting with maybe one more time, but
she didn't approve slave for you because of that.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
No, it's questionable, and I'm like, these kids just have
slave to the music.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Mom.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I was so mad. It's not about sex, it's about
being a slave to the music. Wow.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
So your parents were like pretty liberal, I would say my.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Parents both my parents, So my parents were theater actors,
so you know, you'll that's how they met. Actually, but
both of my parents are very liberal. In fact, my
dad he's so pro human rights that he actually attended
the very first gay rights march in all of Mexico
as a country.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
But he went to Mexico City in March with the
community and everything as an ally.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Amazing ahead of his time. What are your parents' birthdays?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
My mom is sixty five, my daddy's fifty seventy. What
my dad's fifty seven?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
What is their birthday like actual birthdays?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
My daddy's February twenty eight, nineteen fifty seven. My mom
is August nine, nineteen sixty five, August ninety.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah, yes he didn't. I say my theory earlier. I
have this theory about pistist areas in Leo somewhere in
the next Really, it's kind of it's like this weird thing.
I keep saying. It's like a chronic relationship. But I
guess you got sad they did. It's like the prices
need their fire.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Well, my mom's Sagittarius and my dad is only your mom.
She loves you, show what I told her.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
She was like, what, yes, Okay, I don't know if
I'm allowed to bring this up anything. Are we allowed
to talk about There was an episode with your mom
took you guys around to like try I think and bandas.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Yes, yes, I remember that.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I fell in love with your mother. Love with your mother.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
So no, it was in Miami, I think it was, Yes,
yeah it was.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
It was amazing.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yes, the people you guys went and try and banadas
and they show how they made them and everything, and yes.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Yeah, she's a huge fan of a Yes, yeah, she
loves a show. The show is great.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I make amazing.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Who's another challenged actor we have to have on?
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:57):
And then I was like, wait a second. I connected
the dots and I was like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yes, I love him and he loves you too.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
I love him so much. I'm trying to go to
Disneyland with you guys at some point.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I'm ready. Let's do it. Whatever you need. We love it.
We're a little bit. Will you go at least three
times a month?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Oh my god, sixteen times every time she has a
parking spot there she has her own.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Not too much. I'm doing a universal deal.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
I go like maybe once or twice a year. I
would say I think that I get a little like
over the mead.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
I just went yesterday and I was there from ten
in the morning until twelve midnight.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Is hot.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Oh my god, I'm wearing today. Wow, it hurts. It
hurts good.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I like the hot dads.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
It was Father's Day. Oh my god, you guys. I
was like, this is I'm not I'm not a saint.
I'm not religious, and thank God because I'll be going
to hell.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Right, Oh my god. So I love dads. I just
love it because you just know that the demon works.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Oh somn, you're so.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I mean, you have your thoughts and your goals. Clear
things online for you works.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
It works for everyone else here, right, I always That's
all what I think about when I see it. Like,
by the way, snorts are welcome. Please, thank yeah, please
do your best self here.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Good because I have sleep o me too, so.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
You can bring our machines. We can go to the appointment.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
I actually got a bed that like recliins itself, because
I'm like, I don't know if I want to sleep
with a mask.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
I have I start using mouth tape.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
I'm scared that it works.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
It works, yeah, and right strip to open your nose
up more. Yes, because the thing with me sleep at
the thing with like you know, when we sleep, it's
like our jaws go back, like we open our mouths
and then that's like I think it's different like how
everybody sleeps. But so the mouth tape just closes your
(12:07):
mouth so it doesn't go back or open. At first,
you feel like I'm dying. But like a couple of
times I've heard that it works.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Oh my god, your brain looks And Talent.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Explained she got me on the nose tape to yes,
their breathe behesive, So yes, I can't really do it that.
I can't do any adhesive on me, like band aids.
They make me break out.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Oh, we're so sensitive, that's what i'd in some places.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
That's rumor on the street is you're sensitive. Talk about it.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Well, most uncircumcised guys are. We're very sensitive. You just
spit on your finger and touch it a little.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Where.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
So you moved to l A. What was the audition process, Like, like,
what was that whole process for UCLA? No? I mean like,
so how do you go from UCLA singing Britney? Now
you're in and movies.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Okay, I'm gonna give you the A bridge version. So
I moved halfway through high school to the United States, right,
and I had to go to community college because I
couldn't afford going to a four year I only had
been in the country for two years. I actually didn't
even have all the courses required, so that's why I
went to community college first. And I mean, I've been
training for musical theater because I was Music was my
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first love since I was seven years old, so I
kept that training here in the US. I went to
community college. And what's funny is that I initially auditioned
for UCLA because I wanted to have options. I actually
wanted to go to UC Irvine. And the reason why
is because when I had first moved to the US,
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I had a cousin who was attending UCLA, and they
took me to visit the campus and it looks so huge,
like I've never seen anything like that in my life.
And my cousin is also very very smart, like she
ended up getting accepted into Harvard Law and things like that.
So I remember walking into the campus and going, there's
no way, because you know, they took me there to
inspire me to pursue a college education. Goes to theater instead.
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But I walked into the campus and I was like,
there's no way I can ever make it into a
school like this. So I just auditioned to UCLA to
have back up schools. I wasn't expecting to get in.
I Actually it was like a very regular audition, but
what was different is that I was auditioning with the
incoming freshman class, but because I was a transfer, I
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had to match the level of the soon to be
junior class.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
So I had to get a perfect score in the acting,
the singing, and the dancing. And I was actually the
first person in ten years to be a trunk to
be accepted as a transfer student into the musical theater
program and the only Latino in my classic class of
twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Four empty.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
For musical theater.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Can I ask what do you think it was about
your performance that what do you think that you were like?
Gotam Like what was that moment that you were like,
Oh it was a note you hit?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
It was a lie. Honestly, I think it was a
dance audition because being a plusized person, which I've been
most of my life, people don't expect me to be
able to dance the right.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
And the thing is like I've been training jazz and
musical theater styles and even a little bit of about
let since I was seven, So I have the technique
and I have my dad's genes, which and also I
grew up watching Britney Spears, Lady Gaga, Janet Jackson, like Beyonce,
all these women who I learned through their performance. So
I think they were really shocked by the dance audition.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
And I had a teacher, a professor told me a
few years later, she's like, your dance audition was so
interesting because we saw you walk into the room and
with older respect. She said, we saw a bigger kid
and we did not expect him to be able to
move like that.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Very interesting, and I.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Know she meanted with love, but it sucks.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Really, you haven't even seen me yet.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
It's also interesting to point out the way that people's
minds think, right, and that also just goes to show that, like,
don't judge anybody by the way that they look right away,
like you're not. You'll never know what we're capable of
until you sit down, shut up and watch me, you know. So,
Like I'm glad that you were able to have that moment.
You might be so young for this. But there's a
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movie from the eighties called The Flashdance, and the whole
movie is about how like she wants to get into
like Julliard and j Lo we created in her videos
and she has this moment where she's like she brings
like breakdancing to ballet so like that she makes all
like the judges like shut up, and she has this
like what a fit moment And I feel like I
saw that for you in my head where you're like,
(17:03):
I'll send you the clips so you can like I
would die if you recreated that, just as like an
eighties child. That left Jennifer Beals, who also was in the.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Word But you're an eighties child, I was.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I'm eighteen eighty seven, so like I'm at the end
of the eighties.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
What moisturize?
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Oh thanks Babes Botoks and the Out of the Sun?
I thank you. I never I'm never in the sun.
I hate the sun. That's why I we're like Disneyland.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
There's not enough when it's like sunny sun.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
No no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I get like there. I'm very patient, but the quickest
way to get me to panic is heat and not
being able.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
To that's such a lie you love Oh not that
kind of anyway.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
So, you know, speaking on like body neutrality and everything,
like how what was your journey like to be I mean,
I don't like when people are like, how are you
so confident? And it's like you're insinuating that, like because
of the way I look or my size, that I
shouldn't be confident, but I am defined, like define the odds,
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like in every movie when it's like, oh my god,
he loves her despite her way. Yes, you know, like
what was your journey in kind of being confident enough
to like go in that audition and be like, fuck, yeah,
I'm gonna do a little one two step litverrass dazzhole.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Yeah. Well, I think in the honestly, because that's another
thing you mentioned something very important recently, and as a
flate of last year, I stopped using body positivity in certainty. Yeah,
because actually, since two thousand and two, I've been deconstructing
a lot of my thoughts surrounding diet culture and size
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and what that means and the relation to health, et cetera,
et cetera, because I've had struggles with food, my whole life.
And the only time that I was skinny is before
the age of ten or small and when I was
fifteen when I did a super strict diet and I
love the lunch a bunch of weight. The thing about
it is every time that I was smaller, it was
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never enough for people. I was always getting the comment
of if you lose weight, you would look more handsome,
or people would be like, why are you going into
this industry? They don't cast fat people. I have family
members go as for us to tell me, and a
skinny actor can play a fat person, but a fat
person will never be able to play a skin act.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Wow like that doing something with that? That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I'm like projecting, yeah, real. But it's been an up
like a roller coaster, you know, and ups and downs.
And I think that when I'm performing, I'm the most confident,
and I forget, Yeah, you know, I forget because I'm
doing what I look. I forget and it's like, I
also trust. Here's the thing. I trust that I've trained
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first of all, that I've done the work. But most importantly,
I am a huge believer that work ethic and past
we're always shine brighter than anything. Then looks then pure talent,
Like so I know that I've done the work, and
I just like whenever I get on stage or on set,
it's like I genuinely do give my one hundred and
ten percent because I love it, and you know, so
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I I go into that mindset. But since two thousand
and sorry, twenty twenty two, I've been doing a lot
of work. Do they construct my.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
It's hard because it's you start realizing that voice who
is telling you that stuff. It doesn't sound like ourselves.
It sounds like fat phobia from that has been ingrained
from generations and capitalism and you know, all of that stuff.
And then you start to think, like, well, how do
I truly feel about my body? And my thing is
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like I I truly feel Yeah, how do I truly
feel about my body? And I also think for plus
sized people and just bigger people, it's harder for us
to break in to the industry because everyone's getting and
there's nothing wrong with LiPo at all. But like I,
I love to see a double chin. I love to
see a double chin. I need to see more. I
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want to see more double chins out there. I don't
want to be like self conscious about mine all the time.
I want it like that's what I want to see,
you know, and there's not enough. Everyone's getting LiPo just fine,
you know. I think everybody should have autonomy over their
own bodies. But I'm like, I want to see like
a belly, I want to see arms, I want to
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see Cellulie like and and not. And I want it romanticized.
I want it to be the bigger plot. I don't
want to be the main plot of the entire thing
where it's like my entire identity is revolved around. It
can be in a way that's like transformative for the
peace or whatever, but like, I don't want it to
be the type casting, right, do you find that a
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lot like in auditions where you find it or something?
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I find it more because I audition both in Mexico
and here. Okay, in all of the auditions that I've
done over the last four years, maybe there's been three
that is like, this person has to be plusized and
it's not always like a self deprecating character. Sometimes sometimes
it is. But I actually get those more from Mexico.
(22:15):
I don't think I booked anything in Mexico, and I'm
not trying to be shady. I'm just saying the truth facts.
I don't think that I've booked anything in Mexico because sorry,
I don't think I have that sexy gay look per
se on one end, but also every plusize character that
i've been or I found, it's like a violent character,
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like you know, like the bullies that are often perceived
was like being big.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
And yeah, so that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
So I've seen it. No, to my knowledge, No, I've
been very bullied.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
I say that I've been.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
I have an older brother and I would bully him
a lot because he would bully me, so I would
have to.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
That's defensing.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
Okay, you're right, I was defending myself.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
I mean, I guess I've been a bullying This is
like I've stood over myself and sometimes like I say
really mean things that hurt people. Yeah, like I just
go straight for them. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Well, I feel like it's a young gay kid that
used to get bullied. I had to learn how to
be really quick and I would get defensive before I
would get like nice. And so I kind of for
a very long time was a mean gay until actually
until I was a mean gay in person, like in
real life until I was maybe like fifteen maybe, and
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then online I was a sassy gay until I was
like twenty something, and then I was like at Buzzbeat,
I had to ask them like, I'm actually not that
sassy and mean in real life. Can you guys stop
writing me every time they had a character for any
video that, I was like, I hate those shits. I
hate the ugliest covered every sing my whole life, like
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because can you do this really fast? And I'm like, actually,
I think that cup is pretty fantastic, and those shoes
like great on you. They really bring your eyes out,
you know, like huh that It's like a thing that
I just.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Never no it is, I mean for me because I
didn't come out until I was twenty one, twenty one
something like that. It was a year twenty How.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Did you come out? Girl?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
You really wanted that story?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Yeah, So of course, as a lot of people do,
I came out as bisexual first. But it was a
day before my last year at community college. The night
before and my parents and I were went to dinner
at Chili's love It.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Do you get the triple Dipper? I?
Speaker 1 (24:37):
No, I don't remember what I got. I don't think
I was not hungry anyways, because the whole thing was
like I had come out to one of my best
friends who was my theater acting teacher in high school,
and she was an adult. She was a full blown adult,
grown adult, late late forties. So I came out to
her when I was already I call it student because
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I just needed the safety of an adults. And of
course she was amazing. She always was. She always knew
as they always do. But with my parents, we went
to Chili's and I told them in a booth, I'm like,
I have something to say, and then I came out
as my sexual initially but I couldn't say it, and
I was like, wow, I will say I grew up
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with like the most supporting parents, Like I would dress
you guys know what that DNA is, the one that
sings for children. I would dress up as her when
I was a kid, and my parents would never like
not like they always encouraged it.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yeah, I mean after brittany performance, that's.
Speaker 7 (25:37):
Coming out there, like they're like, well know, and they
was knowing, Like my mom had caught gay porn in
my computer twice when it's thirteen and one of I
probably wouldn't say that, and one.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
At sixteen, that's all I got. Yeah, I was like,
it's virus. It's virus on Disney Channel dot Car. I'm like,
I was you. Oh yeah, I was playing the game.
I click one of those announcements that you want an iPad,
it's a virus.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Oh my god, I said the same thing. That's crazy.
I was so dead. Okay, so then you're the like
and then I.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Was like, I'm basic. And then I started crying and
she started crying, and she's like it would be And
my dad at the time was like, I think it's
beautiful that you can love everyone. And then you know,
a few years later, I'm wearing high heels glitter makeup,
and I think they figure it out.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
But then it always happens that way, Like I'll have
like I came out when I was twelve thirteen, and
I feel like all my friends that came out like
later on in life, like it takes them like forty
eight hours to fucking bring out the glitter, the wings
they have like fake lashes on all of a sudden,
you know, you just come out yesterday atour thirty. I
don't know how we got to so I love it
because it's like you're finally like liberated.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
But the one what was crazy for me is at
my extended family. So when I won the Critics Choice Award,
I was able to invite my aunt and my uncle
who helped us immigrate to the States. And I had
never talked about my sexuality, like they saw how I
expressed on social media and stuff like that, but I've
never like properly come out to them. So I came
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out to them during my speech winning the Critics Choice
And it was important for me to have him there
because it was like as a thank you of like,
thanks to you helping me immigrate to this country. I'm
making my dream come true all these things. But I
also just dropped the bump to them. They knew, but
like actually told them, yeah my speech, I'm like, I'm gad, yes, I.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Love that so fucking much. I also just loved the
idea of anybody like for me, I've never had the
ability to hide my gainess like I used to, Like
I would wear high, high high sauce, I would wear
big T shirt, I would pretend to be Selena, and
I would pretend to be in the band in Vogue,
and so when I came out, it was like girl,
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nobody surprise that you.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Yeah. I mean I just I was very like like
I would dress up more like as a woman person
or feminine when I was really little, like a toddler. Yes,
and then you know, things get in the way and
life and comments and stuff like that. So I was
never like I was always very clean and stuff like that.
So I was never but everyone.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Knew I also just like at a young age before
I got outed, because they looked through like my my
porn history. I just went through like a phase where
I was just jacking off like crazy all the time.
I was so horny, and I just always think I'm
sure smelled like semen.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Really Like I just like, now you know that I'm.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Kind of like in my whole phase, I'm like, oh,
I can smell that shit, like but I didn't think
like I'm this thirteen year old kid. I'm like getting
the little CD of AOL but plugging it in, signing
on and then just like going ham like just like
looking for Brad Pitt, like just anything that I could find.
And I always just think like, not only that I
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just read as a gay person, but I probably just
smell they probably just like this.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Fucking you know, you want to hear something funny. Yes, please,
this is something that I've never I've told this story
to a lot of my cowork like my cast and
stuff like that, but this isn't something that I've never
said publicly.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Please, if you've heard it here first, you've heard it first.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
I've gotten two work with like three of my crushes
that helped me figure it out.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
It's gay wall you'd work with them? That is the
sweetest breaking news. I probably going to say that you've
had it took.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Like the bra well of people who know they can
look through.
Speaker 8 (29:41):
Your Wait, so you've worked with people that you've like,
I'm not gonna I'm going to say that, Okay, Okay,
I can't. I can't confirm nor denying okay on them.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
I love that so much. I genuinely thought you were
going to be like, I've worked with three actors that
I fucking like before I got to what or something
like but you just had crushes on But they helped me,
you know, find myself and find.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Your which sexuality?
Speaker 2 (30:15):
M h.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
M hmm.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Yeah. Yes.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Takes us into the love portion of the podcast.
Speaker 9 (30:32):
We love.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
That's our favorite topic.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
I love love love.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
When you're in the bestie club, we talked about our crushes.
You opened it up, you started it, I did. What
do you look for in a partner?
Speaker 1 (30:48):
You know, I'm going to tell you because you guys
can help me, because I have the worst.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Look.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I want someone who is very passionate about what they believe. Okay,
someone who's not Republican Okay, someone who hates Trump, like
someone has morals wonderful, No, but honestly, just someone that's
very respectful, especially with like because we don't have to
be from the same culture background or ethnic background. But
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be respectful. You know what I'm saying. Latinos have a
different sense of boundaries and you're gonna respect absolutely. I
guess handle that. And also is like if my mom
is my whole life, my mom is my whole life. Yes,
if my mom is my religion, you're gonna respect that.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I love that so much. See, I'm very big on
that too. Like when I date, I'm like, your mom's
my mom? What's up? But also to your mom has
to treat me like her kids too. It can't be
one way you your mom, Like if you if I'm
let's say it, was me and you dating and your
mom just made you breakfast, I'd be like, damn the
bagel and creempeas.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
You know what I mean. My mom would like embrace exactly.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
But that's why, like I'm like, sometimes, don't treat you
like the like you're there.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Yeah, basically somebody who understands the family is everything.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Well maybe not everything. Yes, I have my reservations about
that too.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Your parents my.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Parents and if you're like, here's the thing, not because
they're your parents. You have to love them and respect
them because they're shitty people.
Speaker 9 (32:17):
You know.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
The family tree can be cut too. You know me too.
But I love my my my core family. It's amazing. Yeah,
and I love them to my heart. But to me
specifically that I want someone just that that's ambition, ambitions, ambitious,
englisious heart ambitious, but like in the fact that they
pursue their dreams, you know. Yeah, it's not about having
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a lot of money inste like not do you want
to be the manager?
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Say be the manager. You're working your way up. You're
the district manager of six inch Sandwiches.
Speaker 9 (32:51):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Do you like I'm tall?
Speaker 1 (32:53):
You like I'm small? Like, Okay, I love different body types.
A lot of my friends give me crap, because yes,
I I A lot of my crushes and people that
I crush over are more of like they call it
the metrosexual look.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Describe that.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
I think the best way that I can describe it
is like, what's his face? Oh my god, Ryan Gosling
and Barbie.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Okay, but that's not I'm not strictly a little glossy.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Yeah, So that just that just gets you, like, you
know what I think it is. I think I do
think it's my own internalized fat phoby. I'm not gonna
but I think it's also the fact that I've never
been that and that's always been so glorified. So I
just feel like like it's something psychological that you want
to like because I've been with guys like in bed
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that was cur I've been with guys with like really
amazing bodies, and it's not the same to hug them
as like hug them someone that's a little bit meteor
that feels nice. Okay, Yeah, So it's more of like
an aesthetic and psychological thing for me that I just
think it feels so unattainable. You know, when you when
you want what you can have. That's kind of what
it feels like. But that's what I'm not. You don't
have to be that way.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Yeah, I mean it's the opposite. I actually like when
I see glossy guys, I'm like, like nothing, I feel
nothing in my boins. Nothing opens up about me, nothing
gets wet. There's nothing about me that's like yeah yeah,
like but like a thick ems with a beard, a
little hairy.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
In like a jersey of some firiry hairy, like you
don't like Harry.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
See me too, Just like that's a hill that I'll
die on.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
That as wet head and a shower chest hair and
shower is one of the hottest.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
That's so sexy, so sexy.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
What do you like?
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Do you like? You like hairy.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Shower it? I have a lot of hair already, so
I'm like.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Girl, me too.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
You know, I don't know that it makes for some friction.
I'll tell you that. And like sometimes we both get
a little I'll tell.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
You when they say, like girls grow out your bush,
I'm like, have we not been?
Speaker 1 (35:10):
I thought we were, thought we were around.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
I got enough bush for all of us. But that's
what I like. I think for me, I like somebody
who is, uh, just chill, like just be chilling your body,
be cool, Like I know it's hard for us, right,
like for a lot of reasons, like being Latino. Latinos
are so critical.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Like okay, yes, like.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
You know, or being queer, right like all the things
of what it means to be queer, and then just
living in a society that glorifies like Instagram beauty, like
we do feel the need to look a certain type
of part. Like I've been very open about different things
that I've had, done, different things that have I just
didn't feel secure about. So I just wanted to fix it.
And it's like when do we kind of learn to
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love ourselves? And I think that's kind of what I
want in a person who is like I know that
there's some things that I don't like, but fuck it, yeah,
you know, like there's some things that you might not
like about you, but I like them about you. I
actually hooked up with this and I talked about all
the time I have top with this one guy who like,
midway through kissing me, stopped me. He was like, I
need you to be president.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
I like you for you, like you're hot kiss me.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
I like everything that I see, and I have not
fucked in that I have not fucked the same sense.
Now I'm a pro. Now I'm like I know all
the different trade, I know what I like. Yes, but
he liberated me in a way that I.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Didn't know that I Yes, I'm very much personality. Like
they have to like exactly everything that you said, Like
they have to be passionate about their job and like
maybe a little bit of like having some family foundation
because that really influences I feel like me being turned
(37:01):
on or like getting intimate with them very much. Was
it's like heart's not parts heart parts. Yeah, but it's
also like if you can get to my brain, then
everything else is open. I like everything else is open.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Also, do you feel like because there's another one for me?
I feel like I'm more attracted to people who are
the opposite of me. Not attracted sexually, because I could
if your heart, I could probably get into you, but
like actually act around but anyway, like like to be
attracted to, like fall in love type of it has
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to be someone who's the opposite of me. So I
love people who are calm and like not crazy like me,
because I'm a lot. I like someone that balances me out,
and that also someone who shows me new things. I
had a crush on this guy. Guys, I didn't know
what pantone was, like the color thing, and I used
to I was like, I saw his his pencil case
(38:02):
and he said, no, no, what is that and he
explained to me for the first time.
Speaker 9 (38:05):
I yes, yes, like yeah, show me the world.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Ye kind of moments where they like have they like
educate you on something and you're like respectfully and not
explain exactly where it's something creative where they're letting you
into their world like that.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Yeah, I love that ship too. I like when they
teach me about the different cheeses that Trader Joe's.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Yeah, I was gonna get dirt dirt about your cheese.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
Are cheese?
Speaker 1 (38:49):
You know that was a joke there, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Mean I would never This is a temporary hot topic.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
What is it called?
Speaker 9 (38:56):
What is it?
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Hot takes?
Speaker 2 (38:57):
And hot take the hot take six six hot?
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Yeah, careful, it's hot, Latina. You always okay?
Speaker 2 (39:08):
So you I can walk this over to you too,
because I think I can take it to mess up
because your might block you from remember because Gavin, what.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
I need to do. Don't just take up the topics.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Yes, take pick one, and it's whatever you get. If
you have a hot take about it, like an opinion,
then you know you can tell us.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
You know, I'm not just opinionated, but you'll be surprised
how you are about You just don't know myself and yeah, okay,
yeah whatever. The first one says, what does I say? Ghosts?
Speaker 9 (39:45):
Ghost?
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Ghost, ghosting? I'm like ghost real, just throwing in my house. No, no, no,
it's I mean, what do you want ghost? I've done ghosting,
but to people who deserved it, well in my specific case,
(40:10):
which is the only time that I've done it, because honestly,
I don't have a good luck with relationious stuff, relationship stuff.
The one time that I did it is this guy
just was very fat phobic and was constantly talking about
if I would be like have I ever been interested
in changing my body?
Speaker 9 (40:31):
Things like that. So I.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
We were supposed to see each other and I canceled
and then I kind of like stopped replying to that.
Yeah that was deserving, But I think it's the only
one that I've ghosted. I mean, i've ghosted. I don't
know if this is ghosting, but like sometimes I've had
fans of the show email me, like, I mean, email me.
What am I a millennial? I'm so sorry you guys,
(41:00):
I can't see it. My brother is thirty four about
base airty four year old. I'm cool, No, you are cool.
I love I wish I was in my thirties. Anyway,
it's ghosting. I've ghostid. I guess people like fans who
like tell me, oh great tits show them more and
then I go thank you, and then they say something else,
and I like, man, stop responding. Oh yeah, it's different.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
I think like with that, like there's that's boundary's a
boundary boundary, So.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
I haven't the whole thing or just yea, yeah, so
I don't. I don't think i've ghosted much.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
I'm like a big proponent of ghosting. Like I also
just go to a guy recently. I hope you might
see this. I don't know, but like he showed up
to our date drunk and I don't drink. I'm ten
years sober and you do that, Oh yeah, that's raight
drunk and not like a cute tipsy where like sometimes
I'll hang out the guy and like I can smell
the whiskey in his breath and maybe a cigarette and
I'm like, I'm like, oh baby, I'm gonna relapse in
(41:52):
your mouth, like not that kind of a thing. It
was like imagine, but like this one was like he
couldn't he fun.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Was your name again?
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Wait? What was your name again? Like and he knew
my name, but so it was like you already asked
me the same question three times, which happens.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
When you're not even try.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
It's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
I kind of had to let it like go.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
I was like, I'm sorry, and like I just didn't
think that that I don't I didn't want to have
to come to Jesus convo with him.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
Yeah, ghosting is like I mean, I feel like my
opinion has changed a lot. Like the very first season
of this, I was like, no ghosting, It is like
so offensive because I have been ghosted before a lot.
Why they don't know? Yeah, And and but then there
was a time when I did go somebody and because
(42:41):
I think I just truly didn't know how to end it.
And I didn't know and it was like we went
on one date and this date, he like was so
self conscious to eat, and so every time I would
turn my head he would like eat his burgers so fast,
and so I spent the entire.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Date like well he was like.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
It was like so young really like I love language
just like and then I turned back and he'd be like,
you know, and I was like, I don't know if
like this like that's cute for some people.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Right, and almost like how do you have such a
vulnerable conversation with someone you just meant too? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (43:25):
And I just kind of like after that, I just
he was hot. He played the tuba and he had
like yeah, he was named tuba guy and he like biceps, biceps,
tuba guy Sagittarius. Also, I'm sure it would have worked out,
but I just like I didn't know how to end
it or how to so eventually he said like, you know,
(43:45):
you can just say that you're not interested in me.
You know that's like, oh, okay, yeah, I'm not so
right in my mind yet.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Yeah, I don't already that conversation, you know, Like I don't.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
Oh, I just feel like it's like a to me.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
It's also more hurtful in my opinion, to be like
it hurts me more. It hurts me more personally when
somebody tells me like oh, I'm not interested or that
for whatever reason, versus like we just fade out. I'd
much rather we just fade out. I can read the room.
You can read the room. There's no some people can't
read the room.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
So people can read the room.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
Can you ghost friends?
Speaker 3 (44:29):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Okay, So here's my thing about that, because then you
said something right now that kind of like trigger this.
I'm going through a face in my life where I
don't waste my time with people that don't deserve it,
including friends and family members. Am I don't. I can't
say that return seven good, But I learned that, like, like,
(44:54):
there are friendships that I have to let go. In
the last literally four like since the show, since I
booked my show, a lot of people's true colors have
come out.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
It always when you become more successful.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
Exactly and you start, you know, And what happened was
I started ghosting people who would like ignore me and
then try to make an effort to save the relationship.
And I'm like, I'm sorry. I learned that I actually
don't want or need your relationship or you don't deserve
what I have to offer, so I don't answer good
for you.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
I think people show up in different ways, like people
will either hate on your success and you have to
be like, I don't want to be with people who
are happy for me, or they suddenly want like you
more and you're like, you didn't fuck with me when
I was doing this, why would you want to?
Speaker 1 (45:54):
And I also learned that, like, especially with like friendships
and like close relationships, I'm only going to talk to
you about something that bothers me to fix it if
I care about us heart. Yeah, that's why I just
goes them because I'm like, you're not worth my energy.
There's nothing to solve here, there's nothing to talk. You
don't deserve me. Yeah, So did you hear that you
don't don't deserve me? This's belly enough for you.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
And speaking of not deserving, I'm going to the astrology
portion of the podcast. So you said you're sagittarius. Do
you know you're rising in your mood?
Speaker 1 (46:29):
No? But you know why we haven't been able to
figure out because I cannot find my birth time anywhere
and my mom just goes, I come on squat yea,
So we don't know.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
Okay, I mean, what do you what do you think
you might be?
Speaker 1 (46:41):
I don't know. I just know that I'm a scus
the thing, I believe in astrology, yes, but I'm not
really I'm very ignorant on the topic.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
That's the best place to be in, I think, because
you're just like, we don't want anything.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
I believe all of it because I believe in I
grew up doing theater in Mexico. They taught us a
lot about metaphysics and manifestation and the energy and universe
and all that stuff, so I believe in it. I
just never taken the time to educate myself on it.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
You know, whos mom? I know, yeah, that part right now.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
I feel like you're also like your mom's like, like,
oh you're your mom's Oh I am.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
And my dad's daughter too. I'm like a perfect combination
of both of them because I feel like in my
career and performing, I'm like I can turn it on,
but then I'm very much like introverted like my dad.
My dad's a musician and I learned how to sing
and play instruments from him. And then as far as
like the you know, hey, look at the you know
it's my mom's side and yeah, my dad's a leo
(47:49):
and my mom's Sagittarius, my brother's a Leo, and so
I'm I'm Aries.
Speaker 1 (47:55):
Yes, question, is that controversial?
Speaker 4 (47:59):
No?
Speaker 3 (48:00):
Who says it?
Speaker 1 (48:01):
Okay? Which Aries? Okay, here's I'm bringing up Lizzo into
the conversation. Yeah, she did the like test thing and
you know that there might be an Aries, and she's like,
I'm not a fucking Aries, and I can think.
Speaker 3 (48:17):
What the listen, Lizzo's a tourists and we've on our
last episode we had tourist needs to take accountability and
what has she not done? Damn well, I don't know. Allegedly,
I don't know anything that's going on, but I'm just saying,
if you want to come, I don't know. No, but
(48:38):
I'm I'm a March Aries, which is like different than
April arias. I think a lot of like the bad
like kind of jujus around April aries because they are
very much like like prominent fiery arias. I'm more like
water down, got a little bit in my But my
moon sign is Aries, and it's closer to like Aries
(49:01):
Taurus cusp. So the way I act with my emotions
can be very much the Aris that I talked shit about.
But then my rising is Piscy so very much like
you know, watery and floating, and so when and if
we get your birth time, we can totally determine that.
But I'm feeling a little Pisces. I feel like you
(49:23):
may be have like a I feel like you might
have the same places as my mom.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
I feel like they like air signs and there, I
feel like a.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
Rising Aquarius or something.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
What days your mom?
Speaker 3 (49:33):
She's December tenth.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
Okay, so I'm eighteenth. Okay, So she's also getting close
to the which we.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Also drag like all the signs, like we know why
each sign is toxic, like Aries, like all the fire signs,
I can tell you why they're toxic. I can tell
you why the air signs, why the water signed toxic.
But Earth signs Vergo, Capricorn, and Tauruses, like we just
we front like we're not toxic, you know what I mean.
Like it's like, what do you mean me? And you're like, yes, bitch,
(50:00):
you exactly, like you're just like you know, I mean
perfect right the same time, she double scorpioso.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
Yeah, her moon is her moonries.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
I think I thought her moon scorpio either.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
She's a rising Aries or she has either rising scorpio
or rising moon.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
Or sorry, yeah, I'm a double, I'm a scorpio. I'm
a virgo double scorpio. But I feel like we have
trouble admitting our toxicity, Like our toxicity is admitting not
being able to admit ship. So that's why I'm like,
you don't want to be a cat?
Speaker 1 (50:36):
Do you feel such a sarious about my toxicity?
Speaker 2 (50:40):
No?
Speaker 3 (50:40):
Just like, yeah, do you feel like you guys are toxic?
Speaker 1 (50:43):
I've been told that, I'm okay, are you toxic? Well? Jokingly,
what's your what's off the top of your head? For instance,
my friend son is always calling me out because, for instance,
like she just got married about a year ago, and
I'm always like making about me instead of like being
like she's how merry I go? But she left me
for that man things like that. Okay, So I'm toxic
(51:04):
in that way. And most of the times it's just humor.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
I'm part of being theater though that you wanted to
be the spotlight on you.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
Theater and gay yes, yeah, and Latino I mean watching
that's growing up. Like I'm sorry, but I don't know,
I don't know if I'm actually toxic, toxic.
Speaker 2 (51:20):
What's one of your toxic traits? Though? You think, like
if you're in a date, We're at dinner now and
we're sitting across from each other, all of us, and
we're asking you tell us one of your toxic traits.
Speaker 1 (51:32):
It's being jealous? Being toxic?
Speaker 2 (51:34):
You could be yeah, jealous. Do you sneak into their
phones and they're not looking? No?
Speaker 1 (51:40):
No, no, no, I don't think I could ever. I mean,
I've never had a partner to actually exercise option. Yeah,
but it would scare me because here's the thing. I
will say. One thing about me is like I'm of
the belief that God because I don't believe in God,
He's like, you are not allowed to misbehave because every
time growing up that I would misbehave me too. My
(52:01):
brother always music.
Speaker 2 (52:02):
Hay yeah clear history, No one would.
Speaker 1 (52:04):
Know me, I would forge a signature, they would fucking
find out. So I never music hate so because I'm
so afraid of people finding out things I don't. But like,
I am the type of guy that will like get
jealous if like my crushes hanging out with one of
another guy that.
Speaker 2 (52:18):
Is not what's one of your toxic traits? I can't
think of anything right now, let me think I care
well I can be one of mine. I do this
thing where I like, I kind of like have positive
what is it called toxic positivity? I have toxic positivity
where I like, you'll be like my ankle herts and
(52:39):
I'm like, no, it doesn't like you, just like it's
your shoe or something.
Speaker 1 (52:44):
Never body, wait, I have a question of another one.
Speaker 2 (52:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:50):
I realize the other day that I when I like someone,
I kind of like tore myself down a little bit,
like I I minimize. Like the other day I was
talking to someone that I liked and I said that
I cheated my way into getting into u c l A,
which part of me does believe. But I'm like, you
shouldn't do that. No here, but like, how do you
(53:14):
see actually cheat? I'm gonna make that clear.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
You way until you into their hearts.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
I just I finished all my ges before in community
like before getting to u c l A and community college,
so I wouldn't have to deal with that.
Speaker 3 (53:28):
And that's not cheat that you worked hard, Like I'm not.
Speaker 1 (53:32):
Your stereotypical super book smart U c l A students,
but look where you are, babes.
Speaker 2 (53:40):
Yeah, because I had diarrhea and I.
Speaker 3 (53:43):
Still have got one brain cell holding on for their life.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
I am that brain cell.
Speaker 1 (53:50):
You guys are iconic. I'm like, I would like to
take this opportunity to say that I'm making a dream
come true by being on these people's podcasts because I
grew up watching them, which I know that sounds weird,
but that's an immigrantic means a lot, and now being
interview man.
Speaker 2 (54:03):
Hell yeah, and you're even like one of our funest interviews.
Speaker 1 (54:06):
Yeah, so much fun. You're killing kidding? Should I'm down?
Speaker 2 (54:11):
Which sign you have a bony pick with?
Speaker 3 (54:14):
Honestly ubs you the wrong way?
Speaker 2 (54:16):
Who?
Speaker 1 (54:17):
Both Leo's and scorpios. Leo's because my mom and my
brother are Leo's is so nicios.
Speaker 2 (54:24):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (54:25):
They always want to be right. They don't know how
to apologize, okay, and like they goes like they're stopburn,
stop burn and stopburn, and.
Speaker 3 (54:35):
Like one are their birthdays?
Speaker 1 (54:37):
Uh, mom is August nine and my brother is August fifteenth.
Speaker 3 (54:42):
Yeah, August.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
Leo's like white scorpios because one specific guy who was
a scorp First of all, I'm scared of scorpios, like
the animal itself.
Speaker 2 (54:52):
I love scorpions. I haven't tattooed on the.
Speaker 1 (54:54):
Scare the ship out of me. That in snakes I
love because.
Speaker 2 (54:57):
And I have snakes. I love snakes. I own a snake.
Speaker 1 (55:00):
Okay, we could never go out.
Speaker 2 (55:05):
I'm sure you would like, I'm sure you would change
your mind.
Speaker 3 (55:13):
We're doing.
Speaker 2 (55:16):
No. But did you see when they killed Wednesday Scorpion
in the show?
Speaker 1 (55:19):
I was so sad.
Speaker 2 (55:20):
I cried. It was the saddest thing.
Speaker 3 (55:21):
Did you I can see you on that show.
Speaker 1 (55:24):
I auditioned for the Oh my god, I would love
to be in that show.
Speaker 2 (55:29):
You will be on you know what?
Speaker 1 (55:31):
I what my dream job is? You know how they're
doing John and cho is doing the Britney biopic based
on her book. Yes, I have to play Britney Spears.
I'm not a white, skinny woman, but I would play
the hell out of Okay. I can do multiple things.
I can do. I'm high and Britney Spears. That's like
early nineties high and Britney Spears. I'm so excited to
(55:51):
be here, thank you, ma'am. And then if she's singing live,
she's like and she's like.
Speaker 3 (56:03):
And it doesn't always.
Speaker 1 (56:17):
And she was like, really need to really did. She's
like she sings, don't let me do the listeners like
my friends your so in.
Speaker 3 (56:26):
You know, you can hear the young Brittany or she could.
She can sing sing sing, I don't care, I don't care,
and then you can hear when they like wanted to
put her do a machine.
Speaker 1 (56:39):
And you know, Brittany, I'm a Brittany Cone, Yes, historian.
I'm a historian. I learned English through her music. I
will say she was always my number one, but Gaga.
That was always my number two. But Gaga has been
just killing it. And I'm like, Brittany, tom I always
close my ship.
Speaker 3 (57:00):
Because you danced. You did the dancing.
Speaker 2 (57:02):
Yeah, what's your other favorite song on the album?
Speaker 1 (57:07):
My favorite song on the album three? Well, my top
is how bad do you want me to.
Speaker 2 (57:15):
Love?
Speaker 4 (57:16):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (57:16):
Perfect celebrity, just because of the message.
Speaker 2 (57:19):
For me, it's big.
Speaker 1 (57:23):
I do love Garden of Eden, though my friend John
says that I'm guarding of Eden boy. I like something boy,
but I didn't like that until she performed it, lived it, yeah,
which I think is a little I didn't hate it,
and you know, but I was.
Speaker 3 (57:37):
Like, she's also an aries and that concludes the astrology portion.
Speaker 2 (57:44):
Oh, thank you so much for hanging out with us.
Speaker 1 (57:47):
You were a dream.
Speaker 3 (57:50):
Bestie in the bestie club. Congratulations Emily, my best friend Emily.
Speaker 1 (57:58):
My friend Emily is obsessed with like you guys, will
I like se I can even speak. We lost our
minds when you guys started following me on social In fact,
oh my god, can I just tell a quick story.
My very first red carpet was the opening night of
(58:19):
head Over Heels at passagona playhouse, which you were there,
which was that the Friday night.
Speaker 2 (58:25):
Okay, head Over.
Speaker 1 (58:27):
Heels is with the music with the go gos head Over.
You were there, and you had just followed me on
Instagram a few weeks before, and the show was already
out a couple and stuff like that. And I kept
telling my friend. I was like, oh my god, I
want to say hi, because he followed me, so I
could say hi, right, I could not gather what gather
(58:54):
the strength to come. I was to starstruck. I was like,
I couldn't. No, I met you in person. Yeah, today,
I came in so late that I didn't get to
like stare at you.
Speaker 2 (59:15):
So much.
Speaker 1 (59:15):
No, but I'm very like, from the bottom of my heart,
you guys like this means the world like this is
one of the special things about what I do is symptimes.
I cannot believe that I get to share space, conversation, thoughts,
arts and crafts and you know, all of it with
like people that I have looked up to and that
when I started off in this country made me feel
(59:37):
not alone. So thank you for having love me so much,
and thank you for what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (59:43):
You are like paving the way for and opening doors
for so many people who don't think that they have
a way and they see you in your beautiful, sparkly outfit.
Speaker 1 (59:54):
Absolutely, I'm currently unemployed, so I might start doing that
if you want me to your king, let me know please,
I can speak English now I want. You'll find you
on social media. You can find me at Fernando everywhere.
(01:00:15):
It's like Gasa with an R in the middle.
Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
I love what we have to like do those I know?
Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Yeah? Absolutely, my working people find you.
Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
You can find me Maya in the Moment m A
y A and the moment anywhere you scroll. What about you,
Curly You.
Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Can find me at the Curly v Show on Instagram
and TikTok and YouTube.
Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
Thank you with us.
Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
You are fucking amazing.
Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
I love you.
Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
You are.
Speaker 6 (01:00:43):
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