February 26, 2025 • 51 mins
This week, Curly and Maya sit down with the ethereal, synth-pop sorceress Empress Of to discuss creativity, resiliance and how to break up with someone through a song. Expect chaotic laughter, unexpected confessions, and at least one attempt to form an impromptu band.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh my god, are you the Impress.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We're big fans.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Hey, I'm looking for my dressing room. I can't find it.
I'm in this tree.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
You use our treehouse?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Yeah, I mean it doesn't have a mirror or like
any water, and I'm pretty sure we're locked in.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
And we don't have any indo plumbing in here either
or central ac We can take care of that for you.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
When's the last time you guys went outside?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Never?
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Four years ago?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Three years ago? Ago?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Well, as long as I can do my little song
and dance in here, my little my little vocal warm.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Ups and no, no, we do have a stage.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
That's all we do have.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
But what we do have is what you have.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
No plumbing, but you have a stage.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I'm six seventy eight.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Here, my name is Curly.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
And I'm Maya And welcome to the Super Secret Presti
Cloud Podcast, a super secret club where we talked about
super secret things.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yeah, like secrets that are super That's what it is.
In each episode, we'll talk about love, friendship, heartbreaks, men
and face secret. Impressed of our favorite libra in the
house today, I.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Know I'm ready to astrology.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Oh yeah, we have an astrology section. Very interested to
hear your opinion about how you feel.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
I feel crazy. It's a full moon.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
It is period.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Today started the period. I didn't see it.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
I did, I didn't, but period period.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I feel like six of my friends around their period
right now, and I'm like, this is.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I started on the full moon. That means a witch?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Yeah, of course, of course, of course you're a witch.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Of course. Have you guys ever used your period for magic?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
No, I mean I haven't.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
I usually get it on like new moons or full good. Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I just kind of you know, I've seen it for
magic before. Oh yeah, what did you do? All right?
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Bestie?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Yeah? Always none obsessed with me?
Speaker 4 (01:56):
What did you do? Really?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
You put it? You'd like dab it on some the okay? Yeah?
Or like orgasm magic, have you heard?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I hope it goes both.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Oh my god, don't get me started on that.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
It's called like orgasm orgasm, like manifesting to orgasm or something.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
You know. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I've done some stuff where I've just been like, it works,
get me this thing that I want, me too me.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
It's mostly get me this revenge that I want.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Okay, So.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Oh yeah, placements.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
So we do this thing where we asked chat GBT
to give us a bio for the person that's coming
to top.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Not the chat gpt GT, but I told Chatt to
be a sassy little teenager and then give me the bio.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
So this is the bio. So for those of you
who are listening and you're getting familiar with Empress with
us today.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
We're doing a table reading.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yes, we did an improv s this is the table read.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Okay, so it says and you can you can debate
it and be like this is accurate? Isn't accurate? Okay?
Empress of aka Layally Rodriguez Rodriguez, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Of course this whole time, Yeah Rodriguez.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Wow, Okay. Empress of ak Lay Rodriguez is the electro
pop queen we don't deserve, but absolutely need.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
You gotta say it in like a teenage voice.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Is the electric pop queen we don't to say, but
absolutely need. This La bornhun Duran American powerhouse blends dreamy
since hypnotic beats and rob bilingual lyrics to hit you
right in the fields. She broke out with me in
twenty fifteen, kept us vibing with us and fully snatched
our souls. But I'm your Impress of twenty twenty. Whether
(03:48):
she's serving heartbreak bops or dance floor anthems, one thing's clear.
She's running her own lane, and we're just lucky to
be along for the ride. Okay, is that so cute?
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Longing hate clock it?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Hay twin twin. I'm here with Empress of and we're
ready to clock it. We're ready to dilock that tea.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
What did you think about that?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I thought it was I don't know. I don't know
very many teenagers, so yeah, was cute.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Mine was like he's adorable, he's everyone's favorite. Primolah.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I was like, it's like she's a poet. I don't
do poetry.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
I don't do poetry all.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
She's mostly known for her poetry. And I read it
to Maya thinking that she's gonna be like I love that,
and she's like, I don't write.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Get into it, Get into the poetry.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Like maybe haikus or maybe that's a sign, start writing poetry.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Get into your bag. Here's the poetry.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Impressive? Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
When when.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
That's creature, we also do a thing we ask like
you like, how's your spirit? How are you feeling right now?
Where's your energy? Your spirit?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Well, ever since I've been in this treehouse, I feel
pretty wonderful, pretty damn good good.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
You know, we do psycho psychedelics here too, allegedly.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Spirits silo or may not.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Actually before I love that. I'm so bad at puns.
So I enjoying people are really good at puns because
I'm like, how does your brain do that?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
I love it? Have you practiced that one? No, that's straight,
it was just straight from the I practiced mine in
the mirror all the time.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
I practice my my my best affirmations.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Like I'm just like, I'm like, you are worth it,
you are enough. I did that this morning.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
I was making a beat and I was like, I
was like, you are enough, you are enough. Really, it
was very something that I don't need to share with
anyone that I love that I do that in the mirror.
But yeah, the energy, the energy is a lot better
than it was before, you know, the let's just get it,
get it out of the way.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
The la fires.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Yeah, wild, yes, very wild time. And I've had a
really crazy month. But I'm very happy to be here
with loved ones.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
We love you so much.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Yeah, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
You have gone through a lot and doing these fires,
like you were part of your family lost their home
in the fires. Yes, and it was a really big
thing and we had wonderful conversations about it, like in
terms of just healing from this wild thing.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yeah, and it is really like it is bestie club,
like your friends really come through for you. And I'm
really grateful for you, Curly and Maya. I know that
I was in your thoughts, so I was.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Like everybody going through that ship, I was like, what
the fuck I mean it's going on.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Yeah, it's one of the craziest things that's happened to La,
you know. And you know you and I are from
may Are you from La?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
From Phoenix? Okay, I leave that door or the window
that window.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yeah, we're from here. So it was especially painful, yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
For sure, and to just to see like the whole city,
but also to see the whole city go through it together.
And you and I have talked extensively about, you know,
everything grief, you know, collective grief, so it's just you know,
I'm going through it with the whole city.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah. Yeah, Well we're happy to see that you're doing
better too. Because I know that it's a journey, and
that's something that's so surreal that happens to you, Like
how the fun Like, how does that happen? I think
one of the things just quickly too. When in dealing
with grief, you sometimes think like when something is maybe
no more or in a different sort of realm, you're like,
was that real? Like was I ever? Like you can't
(07:37):
touch it anymore? And you said to think.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Like yeah, I mean my parents are going through that.
They're like, where's the thing that I'm looking for? They're like, scissors.
We had a pair of scissors, and then they're like
I don't have a pair of scissors. So it's just
it's just you know, it's stuff that you I mean,
I'm sure it happens with people. You know, You're like, oh,
I want to call that person. That person's not here anymore,
you know, yeah, yeah, And so it's you know, grief
(08:00):
on on stages, stages of grief, you.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Know, absolutely Also to a lot of Latino families are
still actually some of the lowest people who are getting money,
like just from the fires and stuff like that. Of
course they're not getting as much as other communities are,
so there is a go fundme that me and some
friends are working on as well if you want to
(08:23):
donate to these families. And there's also a list that
you can go and donate specifically to Latino families that
you can go and and.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Yeah, there's there's a lot of there's a lot of
people affected by this. There's you know, a list of
black families that were affected, a list of Latine families.
You know, there's small businesses. So if you've got deepockets,
go go yes.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
So ours. The one that we're working on is called
Recovery Fund for Latinos Impacted in Los Angeles. They're on
gofund me. We're actually partnering with go fund me to
bring more awareness and more money to families and fast. Yeah,
but also too, like how I guess we wanted to
start off too with Yeah, let's how did we all
(09:07):
meet each other? Like, how did do you remember? I
just told the story about how I met you the
other day to your che friend.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Yes, we met at an art opening.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Me and you we.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Met at an art opening in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Do you remember? Okay, so this is the real story
about how I came to No Impress up right? We
were in the car meet you and Claudia, and Claudia
played this song and she was like, this is my
workout song. Like this song, I run to it. I
feel so free on it. And it was your song
with Blood Orange You and she played it for me
and I was like, this song is magic to you,
(09:44):
best to you.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
So I have my like like humor.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Nice word to lay it all out here.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Is like my my mechanism for dealing with things. And
I have three older brothers, so I got bullied a lot.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
I can just anyways.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
No, I fucking love it. And that's that libra energy,
that love. So I would go do research on you,
and I was like, who's this girl, who's this voice?
I looked at the song. I wanted to see who
the girl was singing, so I looked at it. I
saw it impress up. I saw that you were Central American, hey,
and I was like, oh my god, like I don't
know Central American artists, like they're so rare. And I
(10:22):
read like you were a producer. You handle, you write,
you create all your own beats, you like write your
own stuff, you sing all your own stuff. And I
was like this, I'm getting the chills this woman is
is a fucking powerhouse, right, And so I kind of
kept you in my heart and I listened to a
lot and I think Jorina came to visit us at
BuzzFeed at the studios and Garina's like, what are you
(10:44):
doing tonight? I'm having a dinner blah blah blah. She's like,
you should come, my friend Empress I was coming and
I was like, oh, I am going, like dinner. Like
then I had to meet Empress, like I love her
so much, love that you.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Call me Empress.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
This is Empress, my friends.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
This is a person. Oh my god, Empress. And so
I literally and then I met you and you were
so much fun and so chill and.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Say I was a bitch. Just say that I was
a bitch.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Know you were so much fun. We have so many
videos of us dancing together.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
But I have this thing, Maya, maybe you can you know,
maybe I don't know you have something to say about this,
But I am really shy. And when I first meet people,
(11:45):
they're like, I don't know what her vibe is, you know,
or curly. I don't know if you if you've ever
heard this from yourself, but like I and I'm like.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
What are you talking about? I was so nice and
I was very shy.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yes, I get that, and they do they describe you
as like intimidating or like, yes, what is that? It's
it's not our fault, That's what I gotta say. It's
other people's perception of how they think a woman should
like appear, being like Hi, how are you? Oh my gosh,
which like yeah, we do, but it's also just kind
(12:22):
of like for what like yeah, you know, I think
the real people will see through that kind of layer
of I don't. I don't think the real ones will
be intimidated like that.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
I usually don't get intimidated. I don't remember being I
remember being very sweet and like your energy is so
like you have such light airy energy that I just
remember you being like she's so much fun. But my
am fun.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
You know.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
We talk. We actually talk about this a lot in
terms of people meeting us, because I wish that I
was a little bit more mysterious. But I'm just I
just like word vomit when I meet people, and I'm like.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
I'm very I'm the quiet one, like when we go
out or like at an event, like he's the one
who is like hi, everyone, and everyone. He's like a
magnet and everyone like and I'm like in the corner.
I'm like yes on a hut and yeah, and like
just kind of like hiding behind him a little bit
sometimes because I get shy also, which.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Is beautiful, I think being a creative and an artist
and then being like but I'm still very human. I'm
very shy. I find that so beautiful and so admirable.
Like I think for me, Selena was a big thing
for me as a kid, and I remember being like
studying her and being like, okay, Selena walked into her
room and she is like on And so I remember
at a very young age wanting to be on.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Is that kind of like masking though too? Yeah, Like
I can feel when I'm asked one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Oh yeah, I'm like going into a meeting, I'm like, okay, Diva,
I know deep.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Now was like energy energy?
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yeah for sure, that's not if it was up to
me and be like, wellm my cancer moon clock it.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Like I'm going to just say clock it after I'm
just prawn.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
It's like a little like dinger, like a little time
how many times you just say clocked?
Speaker 2 (14:08):
In this episode, drink water every time.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
She yeah, I take a shot or pinture nipples every time.
I don't know, I don't.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Remember how like we met, but I think it was
just through like a party probably or something.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
I met you through.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Curly Yes, I was like with you guys at some
something and I was like, yes, yes, I was like,
she's goofed, like not intimidated at all.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
I like her.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
I've always loved like. And I've told you this all
the time, like you do this thing where and I
talk tell all my friends about it because a lot
of people feel really awkward about when they want to
go home or how And my favorite thing about you
is that you literally will be okay going home now,
like there's no done. Yeah, there's no like, oh I'm
leaving in a half hour. It's like nope, now its good.
(14:58):
And I find that so admirable because I like, I
want to do that more. I want to be like
I'm out do it happen a little bit of that,
because you know, I've learned from like you like people
like you to be like I'm not going to be
apologetic about just being myself and and being like I'm
out here.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Yeah, I'm I'm I'm out here until I'm not you know, yeah,
I'm inside.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yeah, you know, fucking being a creative a creative genius.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Maybe that's that cancer moon, you know, that's just like
gotta go home with him.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, that's we have to wait for that.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Yeah, first, who hold that a strategy? Core? Yeah, I'm
trying to dive in.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
I was reading my I was reading my moon stuff
because the full moon stuff, and it's like, yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Like libas it affecting in your chart libras.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
I don't know. Apparently someone was like, all the stuff
that you've gone through.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
You're going to get your You're gonna the world's gonna
be like, Okay, you're done.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Which libras? Any lib replacements?
Speaker 1 (15:58):
I don't have any.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Like it's going to be like, hey, hey, all the thing.
This is what someone on TikTok said yesterday. They were like,
everything that's happened in the last six months, you're gonna
be like, Okay, now you're done, and now you get
to enjoy.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I've been saying, here is gonna be a really like
great year for everyone where it's exactly like that.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
We're like, in spite of everything that's happening.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
I know, it's like I feel like astrologically and spiritually
because things are so weird and shitty, it's gonna make
us want to step up spiritually more to I.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
You know, I like really feel it.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I feel I feel like I simultaneously have this feeling
of I'm going to cave in because everything's a disaster.
But then the other part of me that has gotten
me this foreign life is like, no, we have to
use our voice. We have to talk about, you know,
things that we care about, and you know, we have
to keep pushing for ourselves, keep making art, keep you know,
(16:52):
all all the things like help our friends and family.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Yeah. Well, you're one of the people that I consider
like a creative genius in my life. I can see that.
Like you, the way that you look at music and
the way you understand it is like almost a little
what is like synesthesia Almost I.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Don't have synesthesia, but I do.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
I think my brain is whatever reason I'm very sensitive
also affects like my my perception of music.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
And you know, sometimes I get imposter.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Syndrome and I'm like, oh, I'm a fraud, you know
wild you know, I'm a fraud. And then I get
reminded of all the amazing work that I've done as
an artist and all of the collaborations I've done. And
it's like, you know, because I work so so so hard,
but I'm you know, like I'm not you know, famous
on this, Like you know, I have to work really hard.
(17:43):
I have to ask for help, you know, to help
my family and things like that. Yeah, and I'm like,
I'm like, oh, I'm a fraud, you know. And then
I'm like, oh, wait, I just did like all of
this amazing music the last ten years.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Absolutely like remind yourself of your box. Yeah, the Bops girls.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
The underrated Bops, they're like, you know, the indie left left,
left of center pop stuff. It's just like there's just
so much like heart and soul on that. And so
I really appreciate you even putting the word genius and
me in the same sense. You know, I think, you know,
I think to all of us use our talents to
to make you know every day a little better. You use,
(18:25):
you know, your your enormous heart and your humor, and
maya you you also use your humor and you know
this sort of.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Like you're tight.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Bunny Hart heart don't know about I watch your videos
and I relate to you on a level of like
being a woman, being a woman of color, being like
a you know, Latina. Like it's just like you're so funny,
but you're so on the nail.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Oh thank you, you know, and that's like why community
is everybody.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
I've clocked in for best best.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
In this treehouse with no running water, I have to pee.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
There's little holes in like the sluts it it goes
right down. There's a garden down there.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
So I was speaking about that, like how did you
get started? Like how did you speaking of peeing and holes?
How did you like get into You said.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Something Virgo is like really coming out. He's like we
need to move on.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Or you said something really beautiful that I really loved
that dinner when we just had dinner, and you said
something to the effect of like I know I can sing.
I know that I have this gift. And I love
that because there's so many people who, like at the
very least, can't acknowledge what they do have, what they
are really good at, And so I love to hear
you say, no, I know that I have this gift.
(19:45):
How did you learn that? How did you like grow
into that. How did you say, like, oh shit, I
think I can and actually do something with that, and
then do something exactly.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Well, I was really young and I was singing in
my house my dad. You know, my dad was a musician.
He was in that he was in the band banda Blanca.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
But I'm not an apple baby.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
I have to preface that because like my dad is
didn't make any money from that band, but he was
in the band, and I got a lot of influence from.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Him being a musician.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
I think music is like genetic for me, and I
was singing it from a really young age, and I
just I don't know, like I think. I think art
is important, you know, and I have always thought it
was important since I was a young age, you know,
like what like why be an artist? You know why
(20:39):
it's like such an impossible thing, like we don't make
any money off of it. But like you know, I
didn't make music all last month because of what my
family was going through. And then I started the first
day I started making music, I felt like I could
breathe again, you know, because it's just like it is like.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
It is like this connection with myself that I have.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
It's not just like you know, songs for other people,
but it's like a connection to my to myself. So
from a very young age, I have this connection to
myself and I would write little songs. They were horrible,
so you know, I just like I just liked singing
and I liked I think. I think like I get
reminded that I have a gift for myself and to
(21:23):
share with other people.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Like I was on a hike and I was singing, and.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
I was like, oh my god, I am Spotify. I
obviously I'm not like the Beatles or anything, but like
I open my mouth and like music comes out.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
You know.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
It's so spiritual too to be able to like sing
in that way because it's coming from your body and
your voice and your chakras and like all that stuff.
Do you ever feel like like how did you get
like the confidence to start performing, Like, because it's one
thing to be like I can sing, I can sing,
And then how do you trust yourself so much to
(21:59):
be able to be like now I'm gonna do this?
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Yeah, I mean do we I don't trust myself. I
just kind of do it.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
I just kind of go up there because if I
don't do it, then I then I just the thing
doesn't happen. I don't trust myself.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
I just do it.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
And I think that that's like a really I think,
you know, I think doing the thing is is there's
power in doing the thing, you know, cause like I'm
trying to do other things and right now I'm.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Trying to paint, I'm trying to do sculpture.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
I'm trying to remember we were like, oh, you were like, oh,
five years ago, you told me you were gonna go
to a dance class, and then.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Like then your show became so much dance.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
It's like all that fun story.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
It's all about doing the thing, like you know, I
want to maybe one day i'll act.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
I just have to do the thing.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Yeah, you know, I love that story too, because I
remember we were talking and you were like, I want
to I had to dance more. And You're like, I'm
taking like my first dance class, and I was like, oh, yeah,
that's cool, Like that's really cool. And I remember thinking like, oh,
that's cool that she's like wanting to learn something that
she's maybe not the most comfortable with, and then now
you were like an amazing dancer. Like it's just in
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my own way, but it's really dope. Like I see
you on stage and you're dancing in your mood.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
This confidence, I think confidence comes from action, you know,
comes from putting yourself in a situation that requires yes.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
You know.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
I'm sure you guys feel like this when you want
a date, you want to date, and you're like, I
don't want to go to date with this guy, and
then you end up dating this guy for two years,
you know, yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah, you have to like going out, and then you
go out.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Oh my god, I never want to go out.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
I never want to go and write a song about the.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
I want to be inside. It's nice in here.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
It's like heated, so it's got a C and I
hate being somewhere that doesn't have next Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Same. But okay, so you feel like I know I
can sing, I know that I can feel this movement
in me. You're not necessarily thinking about like the process
of getting on a stage. You just kind of feel
that it happens and you find yourself there.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
I'm scared, you know. I've been on stages where I
have been terrified, you know, like you did.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
The Hollywood, been like festivals and shoss.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
I mean, I didn't headline the Hollywood Bowl. I played
with Blood.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Orange the most popular song when.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
When we opened first launch.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
That's when I was like, oh my god, you're not
a fraud like you've made. You know, you've made a
lot of cool music that's contributed to people's lives.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
You know, the Beyonce multiverse.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
You did the most. You don't have to say it.
I'm gonna say it's the most popular song. So you
were calling there and were by the way. She gave
us me and Arina ticket and we were like super excited.
We were screaming for you, like from like where we
were sitting. And then after she's like, come on, let's
go backstage, and I'm like, I don't think she wants
to go backstage. I think she's doing herd. We're gonna
go backstage and I'm like leave her. And of course
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Darina is way more virgal than me.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Oh yeah, bless her dream. So soon, yes, she will
be on here soon. Drina, Riina's and Marco.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Shout out yeah, Sharina the medico and literally like pulls
me across and she's like, we're gonna go back there.
So we're like at the door. She's like we're here
to see Lorelely empress up and I'm like, I think
she's don't we don't want to bother I think, and
then you came out.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
When I came out, I think like my ex werfriend
at the time was like, who are you.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
That sped from? For a reason, I'm on YouTube when
I'm not with him.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Let's just get there, let's just get there. So well,
I do want to I want to ask, just because
I'm curious. Did you see the Grammys? Yeah, Chapel roam
speech about the music industry culture opinion on that.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Yeah, I mean there's been a lot of people criticizing
her use of the platform, you know, the Grammys, And
as a as a musician who's been in this industry
for ten years, I really appreciated that she took that
time to talk about something that we that that aren't
you know, young or you know, artists that are starting out,
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artists that are struggling, like, you know, it's hard for
us to access affordable care.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
I mean, it's hard for anyone to access affordable healthcare.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Let alone being an artist and you're you're working so
much for a comp a major label, and you know
it's having some basic necessities is you know, it's definitely
it's definitely hard to do for a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Songwriters.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
You know, the songwriters get like like nothing from royalties.
They yeah, yeah, look into the songwriter stuff. I'm not
like super super knowledgeable about it, but I have friends
that are songwriters who are always like, yeah, you know,
like I hardly I hardly see a penny from streaming.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Wow, from streaming in particular.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Yeah, if they wrote like a song, like producers and
artists get paid, but like, the royalties on songwriting is crazy.
But I really admired to answer your question clearly, thoughtfully
and thoroughly. I admired Chaperone and her bravery and what
she chose to use.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
That time on stage to advocate.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
And like nervous that was that was a blast mood.
That was a big move.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
No, for sure, I would have been nervous too. And
like you know, you've seen you know historically women who
use that stage or you know, the stage to make
you know, statements like that Fiona Apple that you know,
Shenad O'Connor. It crushes me that, like they get ostracized
by the by the industry because you know, they're they're
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standing up for something they believe in.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Yeah, so so.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Yeah, I think Chapel's amazing.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
I think she says, you know, she fights for what
she believes in, you know, and I've been doing it
for ten plus years, and you know, it's it's it's
not easy. So I was like, you know, and I've
had friends who posted things and being like, oh my god,
this you know, she's so privileged or you know, she's
she's saying this, but she's conforming to the capitalist system.
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And I'm like, I messaged them and I'm like, hey, Like,
as an artist who understands the industry very well and
how it works, I appreciated her saying that.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
How else are we supposed to get in there and
change and rock some shit up?
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. How like music and just
being in the art, like it is such a big
sacrifice in so many different ways that people just don't know,
they don't acknowledge it. Like I think a lot of
people become enamored with the smoke and mirrors of all
the states and they're like, oh, they have it, and
it's like you don't see the crazy dressing rooms, you
don't see the hectic schedule, like if I have too
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many dinners planning a week and like, I just need
a break. I just want one day for me. And
I can't imagine being an artist who's like you know,
now being milked like they're not giving any time.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Well, yeah, I mean I get I get that from
social media a lot.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
You know.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
It's my friends that it was a double edged sword
where it's like it's a great thing where you can
communicate with people who who relate to what you're doing,
but also people don't know you, you know, and they
and they either assume things about you or you know,
they're projecting their own hate onto you.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah, they have a para social relationship with you, like
they believe that you owe them something.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
But you know, I'm I'm so it's it's kind of
like a mental gymnastics thing to navigate being you know,
a performer, a public person. But yeah, I mean, you know,
I'm I'm by no means like a wealthy, successful NAPO
baby artist.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
You know, like I work really.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Hard and I I have very humble like tours and
but people, you know, if I'm wearing like a borrowed
design or outfit that I don't own to an event
and you know, I have nice pictures and I you know,
like people are like, oh, you know, she's like you know,
(30:23):
but it's like no, it's like, I you know, I
love fashion, I love glam. I love being an artist
that like presents a character when I step out and
I don't know, it's part.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
Of, it's part of, but it's it's the curation. You know,
it's the curation.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
But am I pulling up to Trader Joe's and sweats
like in my old car? Yes, you know, like, but
it's curation. I'm going to give you a fantasy.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Absolutely. And that's what I've always loved about musicians, though,
is that they can give you this. First of all,
I feel like music, sound, anything that you can hear
is the voice of God. Like I think it's creation.
I always think that, you know, they said in the
beginning there was the word, and the word was God
is with God. I always think like sound words, all
that stuff it is, you know, it's God in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
And like literal like vibration.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yes, and music is to me the universal language. I
don't need to know what you're saying. If it's a
good beat, if the voice is popping, if that run
that you just did, Like, yeah, I'm there. You can.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
You can connect to something, you have a you have
a deep connection to music.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
I think music it's you know, it's weird.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
It's undervalued and and and valued by everyone.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
You know. It's like it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
It's like, yeah, you're so right, it's something that is so.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
We need it.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
We need it, but we not to the point where
we're like, you know, giving it, the giving the.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Artists the the things that they need.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
But I'm gonna say, did I ever tell you that
quote that that in the middle of this like thing
that I went through with the La fires, my auntie
like told me this, this chorus, this lyric from this musical,
this Broadway musical, and it's I forget what a passing
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passing strange. I think it's it's called passing strange. I
think it music is called and the lyric goes. Music
is the freight train on which God travels. Bang, it
does its thing, and my heart unravels. It heals my
wounds and fights all my battles. Music is the freight
train on which God travels.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
And I've been.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
I've been thinking about that this whole time because I'm like,
to me, music, you know, replace God with whatever you want.
You know, like music is the thing that in which
love travels. You know, music is the thing. It heals
my wounds, it fights my battles, and that's like that's
my connection with music is like you know, it goes
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back to that spirituality.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
You know.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
I just like I love it.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
I love yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
And it's universal And people want to sing, people want
to dance, people want to like cry whenever they put
on music, and they're like, cool, this is this is
this is what I'm listening to music today for it.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Yeah, like what emotion do I want? When I first
met Loyally, she was like, why are you so obsessed
with musicians, like female musicians? And I was like, I
don't know, I just think it and you were like why,
Like you like why I think about? I think it's
because y'all are like the keepers.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Of this energy sirens.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
If God is on the freight train, you guys are
the ones that make sure that this is running, that
this is taking care of, that this exists, that this
train exists for all of us, you know, like the
ways in which but the ways in which I'm going
to tell you. This is somebody who's not a musician.
It's just a really big fan of music. There's something
about y'all's brains that is very different than another person's
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brain who's like, Oh, I'm like a writer, I'm a painter.
There's something about I'm gonna say that. There's something that you, guys,
in your brain allows you to get on a stage
in front of a bunch of people, give them the
most vulnerable parts of you, the darkest, most sensitive, tender
parts of you, and then kind of like wait there
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and like, so what do you think? What do you think?
You know what I mean? And then you have to
somehow get off the stage and be like fine with it, yea,
and okay with it.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Well, I think it's just an old art form, you know,
And I feel I do feel like some sort of
like past live generational thing.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
You know.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
My dad named me Laura Lai, Laura Lee, Laura Lai,
and that's a siren. Like there's this whole story about
Laurali the siren wow, and how she is and how
so she So the story is this woman she got
betrayed by a lover. She throws herself off a rock
and then she becomes like a siren and lures fishermen
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to the rocks, perfect to their demise.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
I have a few guys for her to and I'm
just like here, I.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Am throwing myself off rocks for lovers and singing songs
about them. Yes, when I'm with them, you know, so
I really do feel speaking of that's literally we'll get
get to the one I'm with him and all I
feel possessed.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Get to the one on with him.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Help but repress all of the signs telling me that
I'm not fine. I'm not fine.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
I told was like that's and I told you this too.
That's the line that just is like wake up, snap
out of it. Like that song that has held me
and protected me in a lot of ways.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Your body, I'm not fine. Yes, it was.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
It made me break up with the person that I
was breaking Break it off, bring it off, break it off.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
I broke up with the person that I was with
because I was like, this is exactly how I feel.
And you had a thing too.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
I needed.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
I wrote it for someone and I needed to break
up with him. Yeah, you know that that bridge part
where I'm like I'm alone in the dark. It's too
late to tell you it's like that actually happened. I
was like laying next to someone and I was like
they were asleep and I had my eyes open. I
was like, God, I need to get out of this.
How do I get out of this?
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Huh? So what did you do? You like, went to go?
You went home? And you're like, that's the line I'm
writing that down.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
I mean I put the song out and then we
broke up?
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Did he know that it was about him?
Speaker 4 (36:53):
I mean he had to.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Can I tell you what I remember about that? Yeah,
there was a and we can delete this if you
don't like it. But I guess the partner had asked
you this about oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Yeah, and I had to say it was like some
ex boyfriends. Yeah, it's fine, that's fine.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Okay, can we get to.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
The astrologylogy and then we'll have to wrap up?
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Okay, wait, but I do have a little bit more
questions about the about just some of your words and
how you work. We were also just talking about the
magic of words, right, and you did you had mentioned
that you do sometimes feel like past you and future
you and present you kind of communicate through music in
a lot of ways. Can you do you feel comfortable, like,
you know, opening expanding on that a little.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
Bit more like yeah, I mean, I'm going through it
right now.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
I'm I'm I just you know, I put a record
out last year, called for Your Consideration, and I'm starting
to work on a new record. And I looked at
a bunch of songs I wrote in twenty twenty one
and I was listening to them and I was like,
oh my god, this is this is the thing that
I wasn't able to listen to. Like I wasn't I
didn't hear like it's like I wrote the lyrics, but
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like they hadn't made sense yet, and now they make sense,
you know, you know, even when I've listened to my
old music, like I think I told you, like I've
got loved that song I've got Love. Yeah, there's a
lyric in the song that it's like, if you feel
the roof is caving, I hope you build another one.
We can build a better one. I've got Love and
I and I just was like in the car and
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I was like oh my god and bawling, and I
was like, I'm gonna build this house. I'm gonna rebuild
my house. There's just so you know, there's so much.
There's a song I did with Amber Mark. I don't
know if you know she Amber Marks amazing, Yeah, and
it's called You've Got to Feel and we wrote it
during the Black Lives Matter protests in twenty twenty, I think.
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And the songs her lyrics are incredible, and it's like
she talks about capitalism and like the most like musical way,
like it's just bars, you know, She's like we've got
a system capitalism, like root of our Illness. Like I
might be messing up the lyrics, but such such a
good song for right now when I'm obsessed about what's
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happening in the world.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Set about what's happening in the world.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, there's just so many There's so
many times I listened to music and I'm like, oh
my god, you know, like I'm talking to myself.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Yes, And I love that. You also have another lyric
that I thought of when I was listening to it,
and it's like like a nail, like a nail in
the wood built this house from nothing?
Speaker 4 (39:27):
Oh yeah, how do you do it?
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Yeah? And I also was like, oh, that's so.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
Interesting building his house from nothing where I stood welling
up with something. Yeah. Yeah, I was so young when
I wrote that.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
And even though you're like, what literally just like my
family at this point, I soon like fan girls so
hard when you sing the songs that I because these
are songs that I listened to, you know, by myself,
like in my car, and so when I hear you
like sing them, I'm always like, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Yeah, well you know I found I found out about
you you guys as well. I mean, you're I'll just
say your your video about your your It really touched
me and I was I was crying.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
I was crying well because I.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Know how much she means to you, and she means
a lot to all of us, you know.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Yeah, that was so wild.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Yes, and the song coming on in the middle of
the night and when we're off. I love little signs
of spirituality, you know, because we live in such a
science out world, you know, and then you know, all
of us being like, oh the moon, you know, the
manifestations and all these things, and it's like you get
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little signs.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Signs of like actual confirmation. Can I just say really
fast that song I don't have it on my phone,
I don't have it on my playlist. There's no, there's
no way, there's just.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
It's on her playlist.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
It's on her playlist. Yeah, yeah, I have it. I
don't you have to the speakers, you have to use
my phone for them to go off. Yeah, there's no
way that I was. I was dead asleep at three
twenty three a m. And so there was just all
these things, and so I shared it because I wanted
people to know, like, this isn't just confirmation for me,
it's confirmation for you and for everyone, like you are
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being guided, you are protected, you are so loved and
it's real. And so whatever whatever is fucking with your heart, whatever,
you know, however you're coolest feeling today and you're sad
about something or whatever happening something just no, yeah, yeah,
well we can. We'll debrief.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
Valentine's Day is coming up and I'm I love.
Speaker 5 (41:33):
It, and let's talk about Let's welcome to our astrology
portion of the podcast.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
Do a little speed run my coming in all so
cut and hot.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Hey, so you're rising Libra clode, Libra's sun and cancer moon, which.
Speaker 4 (41:55):
Is Libra cancer Libra.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (41:59):
Am I also my venuses and Sagittarius?
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Do you know what you're I mean, I think you're
just attracted to adventure and like I want I.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
Want a thrill.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
You know, No, she has a cancer moon. She wouldn't
do that. Okay, toxic player, I'm only passive aggressively.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
I'm a sensitive player. I'm not a player. Jesus Christ. Okay.
So yeah, clocket, what do you got? What you got?
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Well, libras, how do you feel about being a libra?
Speaker 4 (42:36):
I feel great. Libras are hot.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Libras are like one of the most beautiful signs of
the zodiac.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
Well, like, libras are just like I told Curly this,
but libras are the lip gloss of the horse gloves.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
Wow, you know, we're just.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
We're shiny, We're thick, we're juicy, you know what I'm saying.
It's like you want to kiss you want to kiss
those lips. Oh my god, but what did you say?
Speaker 1 (43:00):
You said?
Speaker 3 (43:01):
But like, we're shiny, you know, we're shiny. We're like
not just like shallow. Once you get past that, you know,
we love art, we love beauty, we love our community.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
We're such like a communal sign.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Yeah, you did say. She did say when she did
the live glass thing, She's like you might have to reapply,
like what did you say? You might have to reply
in two hours, but it's yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Yeah, exactly what signs do you attract the most? Do
you feel like.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
Virgos for French, for virgos from friendship, virgos for friendship.
Geminis obviously are supposed to be our soulmate, although like
I had a really bad vibe with a Gemini romantically.
Romantically I had a bad vibe. It was like, uh,
(43:47):
sorry geminis. But yeah, I've dated two libros now and
that's been interesting because we just out Libra each other.
Speaker 4 (43:55):
We're just like, no, what do you want to eat?
What do you want to eat? Like I was just
I'm okay with whatever you want. You know, I love
that whatever you want to do. Oh my god, whatever
movie you want to see?
Speaker 1 (44:07):
What do you think is a Libra toxic trait?
Speaker 3 (44:09):
That that like a decision in decision, it's crazy when
I'm act, but when I'm decisive, it's scary. It's like
because when I know I want something, it's like, oh.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
One hundred, this is why I like combat that way.
I'm like, they can't make decisions. I'm like every prices
I know is like their own brand. They know what
they like, they know what they don't like. Yeah, they're
like maybe they don't know what they want for dinner,
but neither do I bitch, and I'm like, it's fine,
but what are you?
Speaker 2 (44:35):
I am a double Aries? Oh yeah, Piicys Moon No
whoa no no no, Pisces rising.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
Wow, you're so You're so floaty and.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Everything else is like cancer and Pisces and aries in my.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
Chart, she's like really hot water hot.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
I'm like a hot like a really clean one.
Speaker 4 (44:54):
I dated in Aries and it was not great.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Aries well, Libra are opposite signs. They're like the sister signs.
No he aries, man, I don't claim.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
I don't claim very well, I don't.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
Yeah, I don't care. I don't I don't blame. I
clearly didn't claim on an aries straight man. He just
like he just wanted to be a child, you know,
like that that inner child.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
Yeah, you know, why are they like that?
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Were they March or April?
Speaker 4 (45:26):
Damn?
Speaker 2 (45:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
Have this like childlike quality that I'm like, they feel
like they feel like uh man babies a little bit.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
Oh yeah for sure? Yeah out right now?
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Anyways, Aries, okay, Aries, Aries doesn't have.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Any lib replacements. What what signs do you feel like
you kind of like we talk a lot about the
signs that we've had interesting experiences with. What signs do
you feel like rub you the wrong way? Sometimes?
Speaker 4 (45:59):
Capricorns?
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Yeah, well the club.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
We didn't say. We didn't say.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
All of our bad reviews on season one are about Cane.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
And probably from Capricorns.
Speaker 4 (46:11):
I mean, I do love some Capricorn women very much,
and then some of them I'm.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
Just like, and to be honest, I think it's all
the Earth signs. To me, it's vergal toys and Capricorns
that I feel like.
Speaker 3 (46:23):
Taurus is a bad bitch, so I really with but.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Beautiful, They're amazing, But I feel like we don't get
We put so much blame on Gemini like being toxic,
scorpiono being toxic, and I'm like, girl, the Earth signs
are also just equally as toxic, Like I just get
so I get so mad at them. I'm like, we
should be doing better, right at least, like you know,
you guys are like they're on fire. This one's in
(46:50):
the air. We're supposed to be grounded.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Why are we you're literally floating?
Speaker 4 (46:55):
I am floating. I am, I am a floating little.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
I see it. But I also I think what anchors
you is the cancer moon, because cancer moons are so intuitive,
like and they're so not emotional as in like a
general like there's an emotional emotion.
Speaker 4 (47:12):
I'm emosh, yeah, emos.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
But yeah, so that's the astrology astrology tips over here.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
You so much. The do the wrap up?
Speaker 3 (47:24):
Yeah, so that was that was my astrology bit. But
I want to say, Libras, when is this coming out?
Probably in like two weeks, Libras, I see, I see,
I see love in your future, you know.
Speaker 5 (47:40):
And that concludes the astrology portion of the podcast.
Speaker 4 (47:44):
I need some writing, No, I have plenty of writing material.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
Yes, okay, well so much.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
We have to have you on again because there's so
much that we need from you.
Speaker 3 (47:54):
Okay, yeah, I'll be a third host if one of
you goes on vacation, I'll just like.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
I would.
Speaker 4 (48:01):
Be the guest host.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
Yes, well, how do you plead? We always say, like
how do you plead?
Speaker 2 (48:06):
Well, empress, Yes, we are so inspired by you constantly
as a musician and like vocalist myself, like hearing your
vocals and your creativity and the way you layer things
is so intentional, and I'm like, I'm watching I'm clocking it.
I'm watching it again. Learning a lot of my friends.
(48:28):
My friend Sadie really loves you. Shout out Sadie, Okay,
really loves you. Marielle's wife. And every time I see
somebody share your stuff, I'm.
Speaker 3 (48:39):
Like, guys, I need I need the undergrounds to stop
gate keeping me. Well, after this podcast, it's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
That's our favorite artist.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
I'm like, it's like you're a little secret, you know.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
You're like, oh no, can I ask you one more
thing before we go? What advice would you give to
not just like not just maybe like Latina artists or whatever,
but like truly just somebody who is afraid and scared
and like just so anxious but they know that they
(49:21):
are being moved to their own version of a stage.
Like what would you say to them?
Speaker 3 (49:28):
Yeah, I mean I would say, you won't know until
you try it, you know. And you know, I get
offered to do things all the time, and I'm like,
oh my god, I'm too scared to do it. So
you know, like last year, I got asked to sing
at a Grammy party, Like in front of Alanis Morsett
(49:48):
and it was one of the most terrifying things I've
ever done because she was such a huge influence for me, and.
Speaker 4 (49:55):
I was like, I can't do this, I can't do this,
I can't do this, and like I did it and
I can do it.
Speaker 3 (50:01):
So I just think, you know, it goes back to
what we're saying. It is like so much of life
is just doing the thing, you know, doing doing doing
the thing. You want to write a script, write the script,
you know, you want to act, you want to audition,
you want to make the self tape, make it, you know, so.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
Have the battle is just doing it, just doing it.
Speaker 3 (50:22):
Like so many people get far because they do it,
you know. But then there's people who are like talented,
who won't make the tiktoks, you know, who won't make
the videos, won't won't post post about themselves. And I'm
guilty of that myself. But you know, I think, yeah,
do it, do it, do it, Just do it, but
not in an I way like in your own just
(50:43):
do it.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
Yeah, just fucking do whatever you got to do.
Speaker 3 (50:45):
Fucking anyways, Well, yeah, I gotta go, I gotta getting
I get I got a.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
Thing yeah, let me the treehouses somehow open?
Speaker 3 (50:56):
Now?
Speaker 1 (50:58):
How how how can pep'll find you?
Speaker 3 (51:01):
Oh at ambress of E M P R E S
S empress of like empress of what exactly? At embress
of on all platforms.
Speaker 1 (51:11):
Okay, cool, my work people find you.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
You can find me at my in the Moment m
A y A in moment anywhere you scroll.
Speaker 1 (51:19):
You can find me at the Curly v Show on
Instagram or TikTok and red.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
Note thank you so much for me.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
Yeah, hey, can you sign my breast before you leave?
Speaker 4 (51:29):
For sure?
Speaker 2 (51:34):
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episodes every single week. The Super Secret Bestie Club podcast
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Speaker 1 (51:46):
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Oh my god, are you the Impress.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We're big fans.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Hey, I'm looking for my dressing room. I can't find it.
I'm in this tree.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
You use our treehouse?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Yeah, I mean it doesn't have a mirror or like
any water, and I'm pretty sure we're locked in.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
And we don't have any indo plumbing in here either
or central ac We can take care of that for you.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
When's the last time you guys went outside?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Never?
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Four years ago?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Three years ago? Ago?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Well, as long as I can do my little song
and dance in here, my little my little vocal warm.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Ups and no, no, we do have a stage.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
That's all we do have.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
But what we do have is what you have.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
No plumbing, but you have a stage.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I'm six seventy eight.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Here, my name is Curly.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
And I'm Maya And welcome to the Super Secret Presti
Cloud Podcast, a super secret club where we talked about
super secret things.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yeah, like secrets that are super That's what it is.
In each episode, we'll talk about love, friendship, heartbreaks, men
and face secret. Impressed of our favorite libra in the
house today, I.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Know I'm ready to astrology.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Oh yeah, we have an astrology section. Very interested to
hear your opinion about how you feel.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
I feel crazy. It's a full moon.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
It is period.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Today started the period. I didn't see it.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
I did, I didn't, but period period.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I feel like six of my friends around their period
right now, and I'm like, this is.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I started on the full moon. That means a witch?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Yeah, of course, of course, of course you're a witch.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Of course. Have you guys ever used your period for magic?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
No, I mean I haven't.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
I usually get it on like new moons or full good. Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I just kind of you know, I've seen it for
magic before. Oh yeah, what did you do? All right?
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Bestie?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Yeah? Always none obsessed with me?
Speaker 4 (01:56):
What did you do? Really?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
You put it? You'd like dab it on some the okay? Yeah?
Or like orgasm magic, have you heard?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I hope it goes both.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Oh my god, don't get me started on that.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
It's called like orgasm orgasm, like manifesting to orgasm or something.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
You know. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I've done some stuff where I've just been like, it works,
get me this thing that I want, me too me.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
It's mostly get me this revenge that I want.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Okay, So.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Oh yeah, placements.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
So we do this thing where we asked chat GBT
to give us a bio for the person that's coming
to top.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Not the chat gpt GT, but I told Chatt to
be a sassy little teenager and then give me the bio.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
So this is the bio. So for those of you
who are listening and you're getting familiar with Empress with
us today.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
We're doing a table reading.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yes, we did an improv s this is the table read.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Okay, so it says and you can you can debate
it and be like this is accurate? Isn't accurate? Okay?
Empress of aka Layally Rodriguez Rodriguez, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Of course this whole time, Yeah Rodriguez.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Wow, Okay. Empress of ak Lay Rodriguez is the electro
pop queen we don't deserve, but absolutely need.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
You gotta say it in like a teenage voice.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Is the electric pop queen we don't to say, but
absolutely need. This La bornhun Duran American powerhouse blends dreamy
since hypnotic beats and rob bilingual lyrics to hit you
right in the fields. She broke out with me in
twenty fifteen, kept us vibing with us and fully snatched
our souls. But I'm your Impress of twenty twenty. Whether
(03:48):
she's serving heartbreak bops or dance floor anthems, one thing's clear.
She's running her own lane, and we're just lucky to
be along for the ride. Okay, is that so cute?
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Longing hate clock it?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Hay twin twin. I'm here with Empress of and we're
ready to clock it. We're ready to dilock that tea.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
What did you think about that?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I thought it was I don't know. I don't know
very many teenagers, so yeah, was cute.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Mine was like he's adorable, he's everyone's favorite. Primolah.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I was like, it's like she's a poet. I don't
do poetry.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
I don't do poetry all.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
She's mostly known for her poetry. And I read it
to Maya thinking that she's gonna be like I love that,
and she's like, I don't write.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Get into it, Get into the poetry.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Like maybe haikus or maybe that's a sign, start writing poetry.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Get into your bag. Here's the poetry.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Impressive? Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
When when.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
That's creature, we also do a thing we ask like
you like, how's your spirit? How are you feeling right now?
Where's your energy? Your spirit?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Well, ever since I've been in this treehouse, I feel
pretty wonderful, pretty damn good good.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
You know, we do psycho psychedelics here too, allegedly.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Spirits silo or may not.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Actually before I love that. I'm so bad at puns.
So I enjoying people are really good at puns because
I'm like, how does your brain do that?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
I love it? Have you practiced that one? No, that's straight,
it was just straight from the I practiced mine in
the mirror all the time.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
I practice my my my best affirmations.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Like I'm just like, I'm like, you are worth it,
you are enough. I did that this morning.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
I was making a beat and I was like, I
was like, you are enough, you are enough. Really, it
was very something that I don't need to share with
anyone that I love that I do that in the mirror.
But yeah, the energy, the energy is a lot better
than it was before, you know, the let's just get it,
get it out of the way.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
The la fires.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Yeah, wild, yes, very wild time. And I've had a
really crazy month. But I'm very happy to be here
with loved ones.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
We love you so much.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Yeah, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
You have gone through a lot and doing these fires,
like you were part of your family lost their home
in the fires. Yes, and it was a really big
thing and we had wonderful conversations about it, like in
terms of just healing from this wild thing.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yeah, and it is really like it is bestie club,
like your friends really come through for you. And I'm
really grateful for you, Curly and Maya. I know that
I was in your thoughts, so I was.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Like everybody going through that ship, I was like, what
the fuck I mean it's going on.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Yeah, it's one of the craziest things that's happened to La,
you know. And you know you and I are from
may Are you from La?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
From Phoenix? Okay, I leave that door or the window
that window.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yeah, we're from here. So it was especially painful, yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
For sure, and to just to see like the whole city,
but also to see the whole city go through it together.
And you and I have talked extensively about, you know,
everything grief, you know, collective grief, so it's just you know,
I'm going through it with the whole city.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah. Yeah, Well we're happy to see that you're doing
better too. Because I know that it's a journey, and
that's something that's so surreal that happens to you, Like
how the fun Like, how does that happen? I think
one of the things just quickly too. When in dealing
with grief, you sometimes think like when something is maybe
no more or in a different sort of realm, you're like,
was that real? Like was I ever? Like you can't
(07:37):
touch it anymore? And you said to think.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Like yeah, I mean my parents are going through that.
They're like, where's the thing that I'm looking for? They're like, scissors.
We had a pair of scissors, and then they're like
I don't have a pair of scissors. So it's just
it's just you know, it's stuff that you I mean,
I'm sure it happens with people. You know, You're like, oh,
I want to call that person. That person's not here anymore,
you know, yeah, yeah, And so it's you know, grief
(08:00):
on on stages, stages of grief, you.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Know, absolutely Also to a lot of Latino families are
still actually some of the lowest people who are getting money,
like just from the fires and stuff like that. Of
course they're not getting as much as other communities are,
so there is a go fundme that me and some
friends are working on as well if you want to
(08:23):
donate to these families. And there's also a list that
you can go and donate specifically to Latino families that
you can go and and.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Yeah, there's there's a lot of there's a lot of
people affected by this. There's you know, a list of
black families that were affected, a list of Latine families.
You know, there's small businesses. So if you've got deepockets,
go go yes.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
So ours. The one that we're working on is called
Recovery Fund for Latinos Impacted in Los Angeles. They're on
gofund me. We're actually partnering with go fund me to
bring more awareness and more money to families and fast. Yeah,
but also too, like how I guess we wanted to
start off too with Yeah, let's how did we all
(09:07):
meet each other? Like, how did do you remember? I
just told the story about how I met you the
other day to your che friend.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Yes, we met at an art opening.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Me and you we.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Met at an art opening in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Do you remember? Okay, so this is the real story
about how I came to No Impress up right? We
were in the car meet you and Claudia, and Claudia
played this song and she was like, this is my
workout song. Like this song, I run to it. I
feel so free on it. And it was your song
with Blood Orange You and she played it for me
and I was like, this song is magic to you,
(09:44):
best to you.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
So I have my like like humor.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Nice word to lay it all out here.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Is like my my mechanism for dealing with things. And
I have three older brothers, so I got bullied a lot.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
I can just anyways.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
No, I fucking love it. And that's that libra energy,
that love. So I would go do research on you,
and I was like, who's this girl, who's this voice?
I looked at the song. I wanted to see who
the girl was singing, so I looked at it. I
saw it impress up. I saw that you were Central American, hey,
and I was like, oh my god, like I don't
know Central American artists, like they're so rare. And I
(10:22):
read like you were a producer. You handle, you write,
you create all your own beats, you like write your
own stuff, you sing all your own stuff. And I
was like this, I'm getting the chills this woman is
is a fucking powerhouse, right, And so I kind of
kept you in my heart and I listened to a
lot and I think Jorina came to visit us at
BuzzFeed at the studios and Garina's like, what are you
(10:44):
doing tonight? I'm having a dinner blah blah blah. She's like,
you should come, my friend Empress I was coming and
I was like, oh, I am going, like dinner. Like
then I had to meet Empress, like I love her
so much, love that you.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Call me Empress.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
This is Empress, my friends.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
This is a person. Oh my god, Empress. And so
I literally and then I met you and you were
so much fun and so chill and.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Say I was a bitch. Just say that I was
a bitch.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Know you were so much fun. We have so many
videos of us dancing together.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
But I have this thing, Maya, maybe you can you know,
maybe I don't know you have something to say about this,
But I am really shy. And when I first meet people,
(11:45):
they're like, I don't know what her vibe is, you know,
or curly. I don't know if you if you've ever
heard this from yourself, but like I and I'm like.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
What are you talking about? I was so nice and
I was very shy.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yes, I get that, and they do they describe you
as like intimidating or like, yes, what is that? It's
it's not our fault, That's what I gotta say. It's
other people's perception of how they think a woman should
like appear, being like Hi, how are you? Oh my gosh,
which like yeah, we do, but it's also just kind
(12:22):
of like for what like yeah, you know, I think
the real people will see through that kind of layer
of I don't. I don't think the real ones will
be intimidated like that.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
I usually don't get intimidated. I don't remember being I
remember being very sweet and like your energy is so
like you have such light airy energy that I just
remember you being like she's so much fun. But my
am fun.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
You know.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
We talk. We actually talk about this a lot in
terms of people meeting us, because I wish that I
was a little bit more mysterious. But I'm just I
just like word vomit when I meet people, and I'm like.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
I'm very I'm the quiet one, like when we go
out or like at an event, like he's the one
who is like hi, everyone, and everyone. He's like a
magnet and everyone like and I'm like in the corner.
I'm like yes on a hut and yeah, and like
just kind of like hiding behind him a little bit
sometimes because I get shy also, which.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Is beautiful, I think being a creative and an artist
and then being like but I'm still very human. I'm
very shy. I find that so beautiful and so admirable.
Like I think for me, Selena was a big thing
for me as a kid, and I remember being like
studying her and being like, okay, Selena walked into her
room and she is like on And so I remember
at a very young age wanting to be on.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Is that kind of like masking though too? Yeah, Like
I can feel when I'm asked one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Oh yeah, I'm like going into a meeting, I'm like, okay, Diva,
I know deep.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Now was like energy energy?
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yeah for sure, that's not if it was up to
me and be like, wellm my cancer moon clock it.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Like I'm going to just say clock it after I'm
just prawn.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
It's like a little like dinger, like a little time
how many times you just say clocked?
Speaker 2 (14:08):
In this episode, drink water every time.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
She yeah, I take a shot or pinture nipples every time.
I don't know, I don't.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Remember how like we met, but I think it was
just through like a party probably or something.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
I met you through.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Curly Yes, I was like with you guys at some
something and I was like, yes, yes, I was like,
she's goofed, like not intimidated at all.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
I like her.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
I've always loved like. And I've told you this all
the time, like you do this thing where and I
talk tell all my friends about it because a lot
of people feel really awkward about when they want to
go home or how And my favorite thing about you
is that you literally will be okay going home now,
like there's no done. Yeah, there's no like, oh I'm
leaving in a half hour. It's like nope, now its good.
(14:58):
And I find that so admirable because I like, I
want to do that more. I want to be like
I'm out do it happen a little bit of that,
because you know, I've learned from like you like people
like you to be like I'm not going to be
apologetic about just being myself and and being like I'm
out here.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Yeah, I'm I'm I'm out here until I'm not you know, yeah,
I'm inside.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yeah, you know, fucking being a creative a creative genius.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Maybe that's that cancer moon, you know, that's just like
gotta go home with him.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, that's we have to wait for that.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Yeah, first, who hold that a strategy? Core? Yeah, I'm
trying to dive in.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
I was reading my I was reading my moon stuff
because the full moon stuff, and it's like, yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Like libas it affecting in your chart libras.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
I don't know. Apparently someone was like, all the stuff
that you've gone through.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
You're going to get your You're gonna the world's gonna
be like, Okay, you're done.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Which libras? Any lib replacements?
Speaker 1 (15:58):
I don't have any.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Like it's going to be like, hey, hey, all the thing.
This is what someone on TikTok said yesterday. They were like,
everything that's happened in the last six months, you're gonna
be like, Okay, now you're done, and now you get
to enjoy.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I've been saying, here is gonna be a really like
great year for everyone where it's exactly like that.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
We're like, in spite of everything that's happening.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
I know, it's like I feel like astrologically and spiritually
because things are so weird and shitty, it's gonna make
us want to step up spiritually more to I.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
You know, I like really feel it.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I feel I feel like I simultaneously have this feeling
of I'm going to cave in because everything's a disaster.
But then the other part of me that has gotten
me this foreign life is like, no, we have to
use our voice. We have to talk about, you know,
things that we care about, and you know, we have
to keep pushing for ourselves, keep making art, keep you know,
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all all the things like help our friends and family.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Yeah. Well, you're one of the people that I consider
like a creative genius in my life. I can see that.
Like you, the way that you look at music and
the way you understand it is like almost a little
what is like synesthesia Almost I.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Don't have synesthesia, but I do.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
I think my brain is whatever reason I'm very sensitive
also affects like my my perception of music.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
And you know, sometimes I get imposter.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Syndrome and I'm like, oh, I'm a fraud, you know
wild you know, I'm a fraud. And then I get
reminded of all the amazing work that I've done as
an artist and all of the collaborations I've done. And
it's like, you know, because I work so so so hard,
but I'm you know, like I'm not you know, famous
on this, Like you know, I have to work really hard.
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I have to ask for help, you know, to help
my family and things like that. Yeah, and I'm like,
I'm like, oh, I'm a fraud, you know. And then
I'm like, oh, wait, I just did like all of
this amazing music the last ten years.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Absolutely like remind yourself of your box. Yeah, the Bops girls.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
The underrated Bops, they're like, you know, the indie left left,
left of center pop stuff. It's just like there's just
so much like heart and soul on that. And so
I really appreciate you even putting the word genius and
me in the same sense. You know, I think, you know,
I think to all of us use our talents to
to make you know every day a little better. You use,
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you know, your your enormous heart and your humor, and
maya you you also use your humor and you know
this sort of.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Like you're tight.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Bunny Hart heart don't know about I watch your videos
and I relate to you on a level of like
being a woman, being a woman of color, being like
a you know, Latina. Like it's just like you're so funny,
but you're so on the nail.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Oh thank you, you know, and that's like why community
is everybody.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
I've clocked in for best best.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
In this treehouse with no running water, I have to pee.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
There's little holes in like the sluts it it goes
right down. There's a garden down there.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
So I was speaking about that, like how did you
get started? Like how did you speaking of peeing and holes?
How did you like get into You said.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Something Virgo is like really coming out. He's like we
need to move on.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Or you said something really beautiful that I really loved
that dinner when we just had dinner, and you said
something to the effect of like I know I can sing.
I know that I have this gift. And I love
that because there's so many people who, like at the
very least, can't acknowledge what they do have, what they
are really good at, And so I love to hear
you say, no, I know that I have this gift.
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How did you learn that? How did you like grow
into that. How did you say, like, oh shit, I
think I can and actually do something with that, and
then do something exactly.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Well, I was really young and I was singing in
my house my dad. You know, my dad was a musician.
He was in that he was in the band banda Blanca.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
But I'm not an apple baby.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
I have to preface that because like my dad is
didn't make any money from that band, but he was
in the band, and I got a lot of influence from.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Him being a musician.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
I think music is like genetic for me, and I
was singing it from a really young age, and I
just I don't know, like I think. I think art
is important, you know, and I have always thought it
was important since I was a young age, you know,
like what like why be an artist? You know why
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it's like such an impossible thing, like we don't make
any money off of it. But like you know, I
didn't make music all last month because of what my
family was going through. And then I started the first
day I started making music, I felt like I could
breathe again, you know, because it's just like it is like.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
It is like this connection with myself that I have.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
It's not just like you know, songs for other people,
but it's like a connection to my to myself. So
from a very young age, I have this connection to
myself and I would write little songs. They were horrible,
so you know, I just like I just liked singing
and I liked I think. I think like I get
reminded that I have a gift for myself and to
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share with other people.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Like I was on a hike and I was singing, and.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
I was like, oh my god, I am Spotify. I
obviously I'm not like the Beatles or anything, but like
I open my mouth and like music comes out.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
You know.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
It's so spiritual too to be able to like sing
in that way because it's coming from your body and
your voice and your chakras and like all that stuff.
Do you ever feel like like how did you get
like the confidence to start performing, Like, because it's one
thing to be like I can sing, I can sing,
And then how do you trust yourself so much to
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be able to be like now I'm gonna do this?
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Yeah, I mean do we I don't trust myself. I
just kind of do it.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
I just kind of go up there because if I
don't do it, then I then I just the thing
doesn't happen. I don't trust myself.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
I just do it.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
And I think that that's like a really I think,
you know, I think doing the thing is is there's
power in doing the thing, you know, cause like I'm
trying to do other things and right now I'm.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Trying to paint, I'm trying to do sculpture.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
I'm trying to remember we were like, oh, you were like, oh,
five years ago, you told me you were gonna go
to a dance class, and then.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Like then your show became so much dance.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
It's like all that fun story.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
It's all about doing the thing, like you know, I
want to maybe one day i'll act.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
I just have to do the thing.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Yeah, you know, I love that story too, because I
remember we were talking and you were like, I want
to I had to dance more. And You're like, I'm
taking like my first dance class, and I was like, oh, yeah,
that's cool, Like that's really cool. And I remember thinking like, oh,
that's cool that she's like wanting to learn something that
she's maybe not the most comfortable with, and then now
you were like an amazing dancer. Like it's just in
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my own way, but it's really dope. Like I see
you on stage and you're dancing in your mood.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
This confidence, I think confidence comes from action, you know,
comes from putting yourself in a situation that requires yes.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
You know.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
I'm sure you guys feel like this when you want
a date, you want to date, and you're like, I
don't want to go to date with this guy, and
then you end up dating this guy for two years,
you know, yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah, you have to like going out, and then you
go out.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Oh my god, I never want to go out.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
I never want to go and write a song about the.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
I want to be inside. It's nice in here.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
It's like heated, so it's got a C and I
hate being somewhere that doesn't have next Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Same. But okay, so you feel like I know I
can sing, I know that I can feel this movement
in me. You're not necessarily thinking about like the process
of getting on a stage. You just kind of feel
that it happens and you find yourself there.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
I'm scared, you know. I've been on stages where I
have been terrified, you know, like you did.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
The Hollywood, been like festivals and shoss.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
I mean, I didn't headline the Hollywood Bowl. I played
with Blood.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Orange the most popular song when.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
When we opened first launch.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
That's when I was like, oh my god, you're not
a fraud like you've made. You know, you've made a
lot of cool music that's contributed to people's lives.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
You know, the Beyonce multiverse.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
You did the most. You don't have to say it.
I'm gonna say it's the most popular song. So you
were calling there and were by the way. She gave
us me and Arina ticket and we were like super excited.
We were screaming for you, like from like where we
were sitting. And then after she's like, come on, let's
go backstage, and I'm like, I don't think she wants
to go backstage. I think she's doing herd. We're gonna
go backstage and I'm like leave her. And of course
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Darina is way more virgal than me.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Oh yeah, bless her dream. So soon, yes, she will
be on here soon. Drina, Riina's and Marco.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Shout out yeah, Sharina the medico and literally like pulls
me across and she's like, we're gonna go back there.
So we're like at the door. She's like we're here
to see Lorelely empress up and I'm like, I think
she's don't we don't want to bother I think, and
then you came out.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
When I came out, I think like my ex werfriend
at the time was like, who are you.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
That sped from? For a reason, I'm on YouTube when
I'm not with him.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Let's just get there, let's just get there. So well,
I do want to I want to ask, just because
I'm curious. Did you see the Grammys? Yeah, Chapel roam
speech about the music industry culture opinion on that.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Yeah, I mean there's been a lot of people criticizing
her use of the platform, you know, the Grammys, And
as a as a musician who's been in this industry
for ten years, I really appreciated that she took that
time to talk about something that we that that aren't
you know, young or you know, artists that are starting out,
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artists that are struggling, like, you know, it's hard for
us to access affordable care.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
I mean, it's hard for anyone to access affordable healthcare.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Let alone being an artist and you're you're working so
much for a comp a major label, and you know
it's having some basic necessities is you know, it's definitely
it's definitely hard to do for a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Songwriters.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
You know, the songwriters get like like nothing from royalties.
They yeah, yeah, look into the songwriter stuff. I'm not
like super super knowledgeable about it, but I have friends
that are songwriters who are always like, yeah, you know,
like I hardly I hardly see a penny from streaming.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Wow, from streaming in particular.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Yeah, if they wrote like a song, like producers and
artists get paid, but like, the royalties on songwriting is crazy.
But I really admired to answer your question clearly, thoughtfully
and thoroughly. I admired Chaperone and her bravery and what
she chose to use.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
That time on stage to advocate.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
And like nervous that was that was a blast mood.
That was a big move.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
No, for sure, I would have been nervous too. And
like you know, you've seen you know historically women who
use that stage or you know, the stage to make
you know, statements like that Fiona Apple that you know,
Shenad O'Connor. It crushes me that, like they get ostracized
by the by the industry because you know, they're they're
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standing up for something they believe in.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Yeah, so so.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Yeah, I think Chapel's amazing.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
I think she says, you know, she fights for what
she believes in, you know, and I've been doing it
for ten plus years, and you know, it's it's it's
not easy. So I was like, you know, and I've
had friends who posted things and being like, oh my god,
this you know, she's so privileged or you know, she's
she's saying this, but she's conforming to the capitalist system.
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And I'm like, I messaged them and I'm like, hey, Like,
as an artist who understands the industry very well and
how it works, I appreciated her saying that.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
How else are we supposed to get in there and
change and rock some shit up?
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. How like music and just
being in the art, like it is such a big
sacrifice in so many different ways that people just don't know,
they don't acknowledge it. Like I think a lot of
people become enamored with the smoke and mirrors of all
the states and they're like, oh, they have it, and
it's like you don't see the crazy dressing rooms, you
don't see the hectic schedule, like if I have too
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many dinners planning a week and like, I just need
a break. I just want one day for me. And
I can't imagine being an artist who's like you know,
now being milked like they're not giving any time.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Well, yeah, I mean I get I get that from
social media a lot.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
You know.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
It's my friends that it was a double edged sword
where it's like it's a great thing where you can
communicate with people who who relate to what you're doing,
but also people don't know you, you know, and they
and they either assume things about you or you know,
they're projecting their own hate onto you.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah, they have a para social relationship with you, like
they believe that you owe them something.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
But you know, I'm I'm so it's it's kind of
like a mental gymnastics thing to navigate being you know,
a performer, a public person. But yeah, I mean, you know,
I'm I'm by no means like a wealthy, successful NAPO
baby artist.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
You know, like I work really.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Hard and I I have very humble like tours and
but people, you know, if I'm wearing like a borrowed
design or outfit that I don't own to an event
and you know, I have nice pictures and I you know,
like people are like, oh, you know, she's like you know,
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but it's like no, it's like, I you know, I
love fashion, I love glam. I love being an artist
that like presents a character when I step out and
I don't know, it's part.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
Of, it's part of, but it's it's the curation. You know,
it's the curation.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
But am I pulling up to Trader Joe's and sweats
like in my old car? Yes, you know, like, but
it's curation. I'm going to give you a fantasy.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Absolutely. And that's what I've always loved about musicians, though,
is that they can give you this. First of all,
I feel like music, sound, anything that you can hear
is the voice of God. Like I think it's creation.
I always think that, you know, they said in the
beginning there was the word, and the word was God
is with God. I always think like sound words, all
that stuff it is, you know, it's God in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
And like literal like vibration.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yes, and music is to me the universal language. I
don't need to know what you're saying. If it's a
good beat, if the voice is popping, if that run
that you just did, Like, yeah, I'm there. You can.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
You can connect to something, you have a you have
a deep connection to music.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
I think music it's you know, it's weird.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
It's undervalued and and and valued by everyone.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
You know. It's like it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
It's like, yeah, you're so right, it's something that is so.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
We need it.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
We need it, but we not to the point where
we're like, you know, giving it, the giving the.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Artists the the things that they need.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
But I'm gonna say, did I ever tell you that
quote that that in the middle of this like thing
that I went through with the La fires, my auntie
like told me this, this chorus, this lyric from this musical,
this Broadway musical, and it's I forget what a passing
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passing strange. I think it's it's called passing strange. I
think it music is called and the lyric goes. Music
is the freight train on which God travels. Bang, it
does its thing, and my heart unravels. It heals my
wounds and fights all my battles. Music is the freight
train on which God travels.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
And I've been.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
I've been thinking about that this whole time because I'm like,
to me, music, you know, replace God with whatever you want.
You know, like music is the thing that in which
love travels. You know, music is the thing. It heals
my wounds, it fights my battles, and that's like that's
my connection with music is like you know, it goes
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back to that spirituality.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
You know.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
I just like I love it.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
I love yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
And it's universal And people want to sing, people want
to dance, people want to like cry whenever they put
on music, and they're like, cool, this is this is
this is what I'm listening to music today for it.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Yeah, like what emotion do I want? When I first
met Loyally, she was like, why are you so obsessed
with musicians, like female musicians? And I was like, I
don't know, I just think it and you were like why,
Like you like why I think about? I think it's
because y'all are like the keepers.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Of this energy sirens.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
If God is on the freight train, you guys are
the ones that make sure that this is running, that
this is taking care of, that this exists, that this
train exists for all of us, you know, like the
ways in which but the ways in which I'm going
to tell you. This is somebody who's not a musician.
It's just a really big fan of music. There's something
about y'all's brains that is very different than another person's
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brain who's like, Oh, I'm like a writer, I'm a painter.
There's something about I'm gonna say that. There's something that you, guys,
in your brain allows you to get on a stage
in front of a bunch of people, give them the
most vulnerable parts of you, the darkest, most sensitive, tender
parts of you, and then kind of like wait there
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and like, so what do you think? What do you think?
You know what I mean? And then you have to
somehow get off the stage and be like fine with it, yea,
and okay with it.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Well, I think it's just an old art form, you know,
And I feel I do feel like some sort of
like past live generational thing.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
You know.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
My dad named me Laura Lai, Laura Lee, Laura Lai,
and that's a siren. Like there's this whole story about
Laurali the siren wow, and how she is and how
so she So the story is this woman she got
betrayed by a lover. She throws herself off a rock
and then she becomes like a siren and lures fishermen
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to the rocks, perfect to their demise.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
I have a few guys for her to and I'm
just like here, I.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Am throwing myself off rocks for lovers and singing songs
about them. Yes, when I'm with them, you know, so
I really do feel speaking of that's literally we'll get
get to the one I'm with him and all I
feel possessed.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Get to the one on with him.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Help but repress all of the signs telling me that
I'm not fine. I'm not fine.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
I told was like that's and I told you this too.
That's the line that just is like wake up, snap
out of it. Like that song that has held me
and protected me in a lot of ways.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Your body, I'm not fine. Yes, it was.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
It made me break up with the person that I
was breaking Break it off, bring it off, break it off.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
I broke up with the person that I was with
because I was like, this is exactly how I feel.
And you had a thing too.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
I needed.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
I wrote it for someone and I needed to break
up with him. Yeah, you know that that bridge part
where I'm like I'm alone in the dark. It's too
late to tell you it's like that actually happened. I
was like laying next to someone and I was like
they were asleep and I had my eyes open. I
was like, God, I need to get out of this.
How do I get out of this?
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Huh? So what did you do? You like, went to go?
You went home? And you're like, that's the line I'm
writing that down.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
I mean I put the song out and then we
broke up?
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Did he know that it was about him?
Speaker 4 (36:53):
I mean he had to.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Can I tell you what I remember about that? Yeah,
there was a and we can delete this if you
don't like it. But I guess the partner had asked
you this about oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Yeah, and I had to say it was like some
ex boyfriends. Yeah, it's fine, that's fine.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Okay, can we get to.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
The astrologylogy and then we'll have to wrap up?
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Okay, wait, but I do have a little bit more
questions about the about just some of your words and
how you work. We were also just talking about the
magic of words, right, and you did you had mentioned
that you do sometimes feel like past you and future
you and present you kind of communicate through music in
a lot of ways. Can you do you feel comfortable, like,
you know, opening expanding on that a little.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
Bit more like yeah, I mean, I'm going through it
right now.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
I'm I'm I just you know, I put a record
out last year, called for Your Consideration, and I'm starting
to work on a new record. And I looked at
a bunch of songs I wrote in twenty twenty one
and I was listening to them and I was like,
oh my god, this is this is the thing that
I wasn't able to listen to. Like I wasn't I
didn't hear like it's like I wrote the lyrics, but
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like they hadn't made sense yet, and now they make sense,
you know, you know, even when I've listened to my
old music, like I think I told you, like I've
got loved that song I've got Love. Yeah, there's a
lyric in the song that it's like, if you feel
the roof is caving, I hope you build another one.
We can build a better one. I've got Love and
I and I just was like in the car and
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I was like oh my god and bawling, and I
was like, I'm gonna build this house. I'm gonna rebuild
my house. There's just so you know, there's so much.
There's a song I did with Amber Mark. I don't
know if you know she Amber Marks amazing, Yeah, and
it's called You've Got to Feel and we wrote it
during the Black Lives Matter protests in twenty twenty, I think.
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And the songs her lyrics are incredible, and it's like
she talks about capitalism and like the most like musical way,
like it's just bars, you know, She's like we've got
a system capitalism, like root of our Illness. Like I
might be messing up the lyrics, but such such a
good song for right now when I'm obsessed about what's
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happening in the world.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Set about what's happening in the world.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, there's just so many There's so
many times I listened to music and I'm like, oh
my god, you know, like I'm talking to myself.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Yes, And I love that. You also have another lyric
that I thought of when I was listening to it,
and it's like like a nail, like a nail in
the wood built this house from nothing?
Speaker 4 (39:27):
Oh yeah, how do you do it?
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Yeah? And I also was like, oh, that's so.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
Interesting building his house from nothing where I stood welling
up with something. Yeah. Yeah, I was so young when
I wrote that.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
And even though you're like, what literally just like my
family at this point, I soon like fan girls so
hard when you sing the songs that I because these
are songs that I listened to, you know, by myself,
like in my car, and so when I hear you
like sing them, I'm always like, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Yeah, well you know I found I found out about
you you guys as well. I mean, you're I'll just
say your your video about your your It really touched
me and I was I was crying.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
I was crying well because I.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Know how much she means to you, and she means
a lot to all of us, you know.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Yeah, that was so wild.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Yes, and the song coming on in the middle of
the night and when we're off. I love little signs
of spirituality, you know, because we live in such a
science out world, you know, and then you know, all
of us being like, oh the moon, you know, the
manifestations and all these things, and it's like you get
(40:39):
little signs.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Signs of like actual confirmation. Can I just say really
fast that song I don't have it on my phone,
I don't have it on my playlist. There's no, there's
no way, there's just.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
It's on her playlist.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
It's on her playlist. Yeah, yeah, I have it. I
don't you have to the speakers, you have to use
my phone for them to go off. Yeah, there's no
way that I was. I was dead asleep at three
twenty three a m. And so there was just all
these things, and so I shared it because I wanted
people to know, like, this isn't just confirmation for me,
it's confirmation for you and for everyone, like you are
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being guided, you are protected, you are so loved and
it's real. And so whatever whatever is fucking with your heart, whatever,
you know, however you're coolest feeling today and you're sad
about something or whatever happening something just no, yeah, yeah,
well we can. We'll debrief.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
Valentine's Day is coming up and I'm I love.
Speaker 5 (41:33):
It, and let's talk about Let's welcome to our astrology
portion of the podcast.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
Do a little speed run my coming in all so
cut and hot.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Hey, so you're rising Libra clode, Libra's sun and cancer moon, which.
Speaker 4 (41:55):
Is Libra cancer Libra.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (41:59):
Am I also my venuses and Sagittarius?
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Do you know what you're I mean, I think you're
just attracted to adventure and like I want I.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
Want a thrill.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
You know, No, she has a cancer moon. She wouldn't
do that. Okay, toxic player, I'm only passive aggressively.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
I'm a sensitive player. I'm not a player. Jesus Christ. Okay.
So yeah, clocket, what do you got? What you got?
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Well, libras, how do you feel about being a libra?
Speaker 4 (42:36):
I feel great. Libras are hot.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Libras are like one of the most beautiful signs of
the zodiac.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
Well, like, libras are just like I told Curly this,
but libras are the lip gloss of the horse gloves.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
Wow, you know, we're just.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
We're shiny, We're thick, we're juicy, you know what I'm saying.
It's like you want to kiss you want to kiss
those lips. Oh my god, but what did you say?
Speaker 1 (43:00):
You said?
Speaker 3 (43:01):
But like, we're shiny, you know, we're shiny. We're like
not just like shallow. Once you get past that, you know,
we love art, we love beauty, we love our community.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
We're such like a communal sign.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Yeah, you did say. She did say when she did
the live glass thing, She's like you might have to reapply,
like what did you say? You might have to reply
in two hours, but it's yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Yeah, exactly what signs do you attract the most? Do
you feel like.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
Virgos for French, for virgos from friendship, virgos for friendship.
Geminis obviously are supposed to be our soulmate, although like
I had a really bad vibe with a Gemini romantically.
Romantically I had a bad vibe. It was like, uh,
(43:47):
sorry geminis. But yeah, I've dated two libros now and
that's been interesting because we just out Libra each other.
Speaker 4 (43:55):
We're just like, no, what do you want to eat?
What do you want to eat? Like I was just
I'm okay with whatever you want. You know, I love
that whatever you want to do. Oh my god, whatever
movie you want to see?
Speaker 1 (44:07):
What do you think is a Libra toxic trait?
Speaker 3 (44:09):
That that like a decision in decision, it's crazy when
I'm act, but when I'm decisive, it's scary. It's like
because when I know I want something, it's like, oh.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
One hundred, this is why I like combat that way.
I'm like, they can't make decisions. I'm like every prices
I know is like their own brand. They know what
they like, they know what they don't like. Yeah, they're
like maybe they don't know what they want for dinner,
but neither do I bitch, and I'm like, it's fine,
but what are you?
Speaker 2 (44:35):
I am a double Aries? Oh yeah, Piicys Moon No
whoa no no no, Pisces rising.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
Wow, you're so You're so floaty and.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Everything else is like cancer and Pisces and aries in my.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
Chart, she's like really hot water hot.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
I'm like a hot like a really clean one.
Speaker 4 (44:54):
I dated in Aries and it was not great.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Aries well, Libra are opposite signs. They're like the sister signs.
No he aries, man, I don't claim.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
I don't claim very well, I don't.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
Yeah, I don't care. I don't I don't blame. I
clearly didn't claim on an aries straight man. He just
like he just wanted to be a child, you know,
like that that inner child.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
Yeah, you know, why are they like that?
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Were they March or April?
Speaker 4 (45:26):
Damn?
Speaker 2 (45:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
Have this like childlike quality that I'm like, they feel
like they feel like uh man babies a little bit.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
Oh yeah for sure? Yeah out right now?
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Anyways, Aries, okay, Aries, Aries doesn't have.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Any lib replacements. What what signs do you feel like
you kind of like we talk a lot about the
signs that we've had interesting experiences with. What signs do
you feel like rub you the wrong way? Sometimes?
Speaker 4 (45:59):
Capricorns?
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Yeah, well the club.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
We didn't say. We didn't say.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
All of our bad reviews on season one are about Cane.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
And probably from Capricorns.
Speaker 4 (46:11):
I mean, I do love some Capricorn women very much,
and then some of them I'm.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
Just like, and to be honest, I think it's all
the Earth signs. To me, it's vergal toys and Capricorns
that I feel like.
Speaker 3 (46:23):
Taurus is a bad bitch, so I really with but.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Beautiful, They're amazing, But I feel like we don't get
We put so much blame on Gemini like being toxic,
scorpiono being toxic, and I'm like, girl, the Earth signs
are also just equally as toxic, Like I just get
so I get so mad at them. I'm like, we
should be doing better, right at least, like you know,
you guys are like they're on fire. This one's in
(46:50):
the air. We're supposed to be grounded.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Why are we you're literally floating?
Speaker 4 (46:55):
I am floating. I am, I am a floating little.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
I see it. But I also I think what anchors
you is the cancer moon, because cancer moons are so intuitive,
like and they're so not emotional as in like a
general like there's an emotional emotion.
Speaker 4 (47:12):
I'm emosh, yeah, emos.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
But yeah, so that's the astrology astrology tips over here.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
You so much. The do the wrap up?
Speaker 3 (47:24):
Yeah, so that was that was my astrology bit. But
I want to say, Libras, when is this coming out?
Probably in like two weeks, Libras, I see, I see,
I see love in your future, you know.
Speaker 5 (47:40):
And that concludes the astrology portion of the podcast.
Speaker 4 (47:44):
I need some writing, No, I have plenty of writing material.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
Yes, okay, well so much.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
We have to have you on again because there's so
much that we need from you.
Speaker 3 (47:54):
Okay, yeah, I'll be a third host if one of
you goes on vacation, I'll just like.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
I would.
Speaker 4 (48:01):
Be the guest host.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
Yes, well, how do you plead? We always say, like
how do you plead?
Speaker 2 (48:06):
Well, empress, Yes, we are so inspired by you constantly
as a musician and like vocalist myself, like hearing your
vocals and your creativity and the way you layer things
is so intentional, and I'm like, I'm watching I'm clocking it.
I'm watching it again. Learning a lot of my friends.
(48:28):
My friend Sadie really loves you. Shout out Sadie, Okay,
really loves you. Marielle's wife. And every time I see
somebody share your stuff, I'm.
Speaker 3 (48:39):
Like, guys, I need I need the undergrounds to stop
gate keeping me. Well, after this podcast, it's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
That's our favorite artist.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
I'm like, it's like you're a little secret, you know.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
You're like, oh no, can I ask you one more
thing before we go? What advice would you give to
not just like not just maybe like Latina artists or whatever,
but like truly just somebody who is afraid and scared
and like just so anxious but they know that they
(49:21):
are being moved to their own version of a stage.
Like what would you say to them?
Speaker 3 (49:28):
Yeah, I mean I would say, you won't know until
you try it, you know. And you know, I get
offered to do things all the time, and I'm like,
oh my god, I'm too scared to do it. So
you know, like last year, I got asked to sing
at a Grammy party, Like in front of Alanis Morsett
(49:48):
and it was one of the most terrifying things I've
ever done because she was such a huge influence for me, and.
Speaker 4 (49:55):
I was like, I can't do this, I can't do this,
I can't do this, and like I did it and
I can do it.
Speaker 3 (50:01):
So I just think, you know, it goes back to
what we're saying. It is like so much of life
is just doing the thing, you know, doing doing doing
the thing. You want to write a script, write the script,
you know, you want to act, you want to audition,
you want to make the self tape, make it, you know, so.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
Have the battle is just doing it, just doing it.
Speaker 3 (50:22):
Like so many people get far because they do it,
you know. But then there's people who are like talented,
who won't make the tiktoks, you know, who won't make
the videos, won't won't post post about themselves. And I'm
guilty of that myself. But you know, I think, yeah,
do it, do it, do it, Just do it, but
not in an I way like in your own just
(50:43):
do it.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
Yeah, just fucking do whatever you got to do.
Speaker 3 (50:45):
Fucking anyways, Well, yeah, I gotta go, I gotta getting
I get I got a.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
Thing yeah, let me the treehouses somehow open?
Speaker 3 (50:56):
Now?
Speaker 1 (50:58):
How how how can pep'll find you?
Speaker 3 (51:01):
Oh at ambress of E M P R E S
S empress of like empress of what exactly? At embress
of on all platforms.
Speaker 1 (51:11):
Okay, cool, my work people find you.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
You can find me at my in the Moment m
A y A in moment anywhere you scroll.
Speaker 1 (51:19):
You can find me at the Curly v Show on
Instagram or TikTok and red.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
Note thank you so much for me.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
Yeah, hey, can you sign my breast before you leave?
Speaker 4 (51:29):
For sure?
Speaker 2 (51:34):
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