August 13, 2025 • 46 mins
This week, the mic is dripping in glitter as we’re joined by none other than RuPaul’s Drag Race Season 15 star Salina EsTitties! She spills the tea on navigating love in and out of drag, what “No Sabo” culture means to her as a proud Latina queen, and how her lived experiences shaped the larger-than-life persona we see on stage.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Getting petty revenge.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Ooh girl, Yeah, and look at those things. Chick.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
I just saw that, but then I brought it home
and my Dad's like, this is demonic.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
I want more life, you know, like I want more.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I never know what you're gonna say.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yes, my name is Curly.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
And I'm Maya, the super Secret Bestie called Podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Season four is here.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
And we're locked in.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
That means more juicy cheese, man.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Terrible love advice.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Evil spells to cast on your eggs.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, we're not doing that this season.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Oh well, this season we're leveling up.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
Each episode will feature a special bestie and you're not
gonna want to miss it.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
So what are you waiting for?
Speaker 6 (00:43):
Get in here?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
What the heck is somebody on the roof?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Who is that? I'm looking up at the moon and
I'm chickening, like, oh my god, oh god?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
That is that Selena?
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Is that Silico? Like?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Why did Selena have an Adams?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Because I'm Selena and Abraham.
Speaker 6 (01:20):
Get in here? That was perfect?
Speaker 5 (01:24):
Wow, already magical being in your presence today, we have
an amazing, exciting guest on the show, truly an icon
and a trailblazer and one of my sweet angel friends Selena.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Cities who.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Severe right, Yeah, it looks real. I know. I love it.
They're just these little chicken color out YouTube but.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
Okay, So I do want to introduce you. You so
lovingly and so sweet invited me to present you with
an award.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I was so honored you said yes, because you could
have been like, girl, that's too far?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Are you hitting me? Literally? Anything for you always?
Speaker 5 (02:08):
And I it was for the Purple Heart Awards, Purple
Lily Awards and you. So I was invited to go
stage and presenting this award and I wrote this speech
for you, and I think the speech originally had like
a lot of like sassier jokes in it. I don't
remember what they were. And then I called Maya and
I was like, oh, can I read this to you?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
And being a fan of your ye oh yes, I was.
You cannot do my girl like that.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, I don't even It wasn't even that bad.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Because I know your personality on the show and everything,
and I'm like, I feel like she'll like this a
little bit.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Yeah, And I know you, so I don't but I
don't know you on the show, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Because I.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
And like you met me when I first started drag,
you know, like I was just breaking out, you know.
I started doing drag in the club scene in West
Hollywood and competition and I was winning. And then the
girls were mad. Maybe the girls were mad that I
was winning. Who's this girl coming up over here looking crazy?
Because I look crazy in the beginning make up?
Speaker 1 (03:08):
What's crazy?
Speaker 6 (03:09):
My looks crazy? So I was like, I'm not here
for this drama. So I was like, let me go
do my Hollywood thing. So I started booking stuff TV
and film, and so that's where.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I want to do. It's when our thrive. And then
I met you on the set on.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
The set of Yeah exactly.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
So I went on stage, and I want to read
the speech that I gave for you when I came up,
and I'll go through briefly. Briefly, but I met Selena
s Titties years ago on the set of the hit
show hit TV show Vida. We were both celebrated extras
background actors who met in the catering line and instantly
became friends. However, I cut the line, said my goodbye
to Selena and sold her out for some mediocre lunch
(03:43):
food to hang out with the actors with speaking parts
on Viva, but I knew it wasn't the end for us.
We followed each other on Instagram and I was immediately
blown away by their ability to mix medias into iconic performances.
Selena has the gift of mixing well known lines from
memorable movies into dope ass pop tracks and then giving
us the lip sync.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Of our lives.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
Sure, our journey in the lunch line was cut short,
but I knew it was only a matter of time
for her start to be discovered and celebrated. And this
is true by the way I knew it. Cut to
season fifteen of the Emmy Award winning show We called
Drag Race, and who do I see on my TV
but my beautiful friend Selena. On the show, she made
it a point to represent her culture, our culture in
ways that were authentic, fun, and.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Of course fucking fabulous.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
She has given us Chola camp Kitaniana Drag and represented
iconic Latina women like Levitndouela lupe to Or the Explorer
and of course the late Selena Kitania Perez. And this
is Maya wrote this part. Selena, We're also proud of you.
I think even your namesake Selena Kitania would be so
honored to know that her legacy continues on through a
drag queen who has used her name and added s
(04:44):
titties at.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
The end of it.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Thank you for this award everyone, the best last.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Line ever, truly a queer excellence. And then I did
want to say that my favorite heart of being Selina's
friend has always been and the warmth of her heart,
her vulnerability and talking about sobriety thirteen years at the time,
is it now fourteen?
Speaker 1 (05:05):
We're reaching fourteen in November.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
Wow, that's right, we have similar birthdays and the tenderness
of her light. I'm so so excited present the word
and have you on the show. So please welcome us
or our listeners in welcoming the Iconslinas Cities.
Speaker 6 (05:19):
What I mean, you're just you've just grown so much,
Like it's such it's so crazy.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yeah, it's so interesting, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (05:30):
I'm very much right now, like in a deep like
you know, we talk about like what's her purpose in life?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Like what are we doing?
Speaker 6 (05:37):
Especially I think people moved to La you know, and
they think like I'm gonna be a star, and it's like, girl, it's.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Not that easy for some people.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
Sure, but it's like even then, so when you become
the star, it's like there's a whole other life to.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Navigate from their ons.
Speaker 6 (05:51):
Absolutely, I think we're all here just looking for like
our soul's purpose and like how do we how do
we do that? And I don't know even you know,
it's crazy. The fact that I'm a drag queen is crazy.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Like I never signed up for this. This was not
the dream, This was not the goal. Was Yeah, I
don't know.
Speaker 6 (06:06):
I just always knew it was going to be performing.
I didn't know it was going to be like this,
you know, And like I trained as a boy and
that's how I have my performance abilities and stuff, so like,
but for some reason, this is where it landed, and
it's I'm getting to do everything I want to do
with her, you know.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
I remember because I feel like in La you see
a lot of people, creative people who are just fantastic
and you and you want them to win and you
want to root for them. And I remember seeing your
performances early on and they were all just so fucking funny,
like because you would mix like a mean Girls clip
and then mix it in with like a Christianner in
the Mean Girls World and then dance like an amazing
(06:44):
song and it was like, why is this the fucking
funniest performance I've ever seen?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Thank you?
Speaker 6 (06:50):
I'm very inspired by New York drag queens like there,
and you know what that is is the theater because
those are all theater girls broadly New York or not
on Broadway, and now they do drags, so they just
corporate their theatrics and that's what I do. I just
incorporated my theater background into my Yeah, and drag to
me is theater, like you know, like like I'm a
theater girl at heart, like I grew up and you
(07:11):
know I didn't. I talk about soul's purpose and all that, right,
like how you find where? Where do I fit in?
I remember feeling like a ghost and a shell of
a person from like like I remember these boys told
me I was gay, like like I realized what gay
was and that it wasn't good.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
When I was like I don't know, sixth grade, sixth grade.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
The boys let me know that it was bad or something,
you know, like maybe fourth grade, fourth five, sixth was
pretty young too, and from like you know, they're like
f slur and like that's not cool, that's gross. So
I was like, oh, okay, I feel like that was
the moment. I was like the light was sucked out right.
And then I remember when I stepped into theater. I
did Greece. I played thee not the Teenager. I played
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Johnny Casino the hand Drive, and all of a sudden,
I was like the light was found again. So like
I started to like, I started to like feel myself
more again, like in the theater world.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
And high school in choire, and that.
Speaker 6 (08:06):
Kind of led to this theatricalness that I like love,
and that's where I started to find my light of
you know, of what brings me to light, right, So
like that was very exciting.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
And then like here I.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Am because you're from La born and raised right or what.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I grew up in Bay Area in.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
San Francisco, Okay, And then when do you also say,
like yay area and that might be two thousand and five.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
I was there for that. I was I was there
for the ya know what I mean, Let's get yeah down.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
It's so interesting.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
But I would always come down to South Central because
has lived down here, so we were constantly the wild
take us down here, like every other weekend, we go
to school bye sox, you know, underwear, and then we
come back home. So I was I was in South
Central A lot growing up with my cousins. But I
moved here when I was seventeen. So I moved to
LA when I was seventeen. Did you move to I
moved to Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Which part of Hollywood.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Franklin Coenga, Oh nice, Okay.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
I have a theory that people who I'm from here
always moved to North Hollywood first.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Oh that happened was like North Korea town, okay.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
Or they find themselves in Koreatown before they moved to
Silver Like that's l A.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
And they're like, LA is so chaotic.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I'm like, ok is very chaotic.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
That's where traffic loves.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
That's your first experience of l A.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I'm like, oh correct, yeah, so yeah yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
So I've been in and out of LA as a kid,
you know what I mean. But then I came here
in seventeen. We claim you Now I've been here forever.
I feel like, you know, it's not unfamiliar to me.
So I call myself like a West Coast baby through
and through.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
You know, I haven't the area I went to.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
High school in Stockton, which is heleghetto and then now
you know, la.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I did a garden Stockton once he's hot.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
They they had a sharp pin, a sharp one of
those peans that like kind of like pokes you.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah, like there's just the shape of it interesting, you know,
I mean a sharp were created equals, which is my
favorite thing about them.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Yeah, they're like I school.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yeah, I never know what you're going to say.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yes, you know, the boos are the new Pokemon.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
I think.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Travels in London.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
In London, they fake ones. Yeah, interesting enough.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
My friend was just in London and his first one
I ever got was the Black Rainbow Secret.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
I was like, I hate you.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Then I brought it home and my Dad's like.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
People think they're demons.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Oh yeah, it's a knockoff one.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
I'm like, a demon's not gonna want to possess a knockoff.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Like I think they would because they look scary. To
be honest, are scared.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
They only have nineteenth but real ones have ten. It's
not a real one.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
I love that people are really afraid of these things,
that this is like a real thing that people are
actually talking about.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
It has a chip in them.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Oh you know, everything has a chip. I welcome the
chip to listen.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Give me a deridle cool ranch chip. I know what
I know? You know, so I knew it fifteen.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
I was like the hot Cheeto girl, right, which is
like whatever, but likes will bring me hot Cheetos everywhere
I went all around the world, they bring me hot Cheetos. Baby,
my stomach cannot handle it anymore. I'm getting older.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Too, you know, like I'm like, I'm not I'm not there.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
I'm turning into the dia. I think you know what
I mean a little bit slowly.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Yes, I would venture to say that cool Ranch, Doritos
and cheddar ruffles are actually more Latina than they're more nineties.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
I feel.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
That's me sour and cheddar ruffles.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Delicious.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
The cool Ranch at the bottom, get that one chip
that has all the seasoning. The thing about cool.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
Ranch those it does make your breast smell horrible. Oh
for me, Yeah, I could just smell the hot I
don't even know what flavor that is.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
It doesn't even have a flavor. Cool Ranch. That's not real.
It's not you know. It's like and it's like, why
is it red? Blue green?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
It's the flavor of glitter.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
It's just so like, yes, it's like a confetti chip
and like it tastes so.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Good sponsored by Coran.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
It's kind of like that and that jiggle.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Wait, but tell me, like when was like your first
time that you were like okay, you're on stage, you're
doing drag. Was that something like a friend introduced you
to or like how did you even fall into it?
Speaker 6 (12:12):
Like were you my friend Marta Bechu she is approving
queen of La and she started drag and we had
both gone sober together and she wanted to start exploring drag.
So I started helping her with my talents that I
have performing choreography. I was able to mix music for her,
so I made her mixes for her. And then she
was doing this, doing this, doing this, and I was
helping her. She got to second place in this competition.
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I said, second place is not okay with me.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Maybe oh my god, She's like, you should do it.
So I did a competition. I won. I did nothing.
I did the competition she did and I won that competition.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Wow, Like that's being on stage.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Well, I'm a stage girl, Like I like being on stay.
I'm a performer. So I just and I found that,
like I got to play. You know.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
I always had this thing when I was little too,
whenever my mom took a shopping, I was so jealous
of the girls because we all have so.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Much cute clothes.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
Like my mom would buy these bedazzled things and these
cardigans and all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
And I have to wear a T shirt and jeans, right,
And I was.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
Growing up in like Stockton, which is ghetto, right, or
like like in San Francisco where I was, It's like
I couldn't dress flamboyant or expressive. Like I have a
photo of me as a little boy on my phone
and like he looks.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
So cool, like right, cute.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Green and blue and hat. And what point.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
Did I think, Oh, I can only wear white teas
and jeans, you know, like and try to fit in,
try not to stand out. So I was always like,
so when I was like was able to step into this,
I'm like, oh, I can explore colors and glitters and
like exciting. So that's I think also part of it
too for me. She allowed me to like get more
creative and expressive when I don't feel like I can't
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be that out of drag, especially in the gay world.
In la as a Latino boy. You know what I
mean in my Hollywood at the time too, like a
straighten up and like, you know, I can't be too
extravagant around those boys that I think I need.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
And it too like did you want to did you like?
Speaker 1 (14:11):
What does she think about your drag my Mommy? Yeah,
oh she loves it. She loved it. She loved it.
She loved it.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
My mom passed away during drag Race, like when when
it was airing, so that you know. But it's so
interesting because I feel like my mom had cancer like
several times, and the first time she had cancer, I
don't realize that it didn't compute with me that oh
my god, my mom is sick and like she could
be leaving. It didn't compute, and I realized I was
(14:37):
literally just think about this. I look back and I
was like I got in a relationship. I didn't really
care for my friends or even like girl, don't do it,
but I did it. Anyways, I started eating a lot.
I started like just getting outside of me because I
don't think I was able to face that reality and
that news. And it wasn't until she passed away that
I was like, oh shit, I've been like avoiding this
(14:58):
and it happened. And along with the avoidance, I was
on drag race and touring and all this stuff.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
So I go through that experience first. And then your
mom passed while the show was airing.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
So then and then But that was like the most
beautiful blessing in a weird way, because it was like
I had this big distraction at the same time I
was like grieving and like coming to terms with the
fact that oh she's.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Not here no more. It's so weird.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
I mean, how do you even Like I can't even
imagine being having a day job and then being like
having to sit in a meeting and oh.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
But then having like you know, twinks come up to
you like like what's up? You know, So it's interesting,
And that was what was so weird because.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
I, you know, and for me, like like on season
fifteen two, I don't know if you guys really clocked this,
but like I was very angry and I was very aggressive,
especially like you know, you're also who you surround yourself
with too. Like the people I hadn't around me to
were not like they're fantastic, but like they're very They're
not who I'm surrounding myself with today, and it's like
(16:13):
it was very angsty, and it's very like fuck white people,
and you know, it's very pro brown and aggressive and
like you were coming off the COVID, you know, the
pandemic with the Black Lives Matter movement and fuck Karen's
and all this stuff. So that energy was like bleeding into
my art and my work and myself, especially with not
knowing how to deal with like my mom. So I
(16:33):
latched onto the personalities I had around me, which is
very that and so when my mom passed away, I
was like stop, like what's going on here? Like let
me get back to who I am? And and like
that meant getting rid of some people and really finding
out who I was, and I had. You know, some
fans wont say like Selena, we love you and I'm
not even white, but sometimes you say things that like
there's white people who like you. And I was like, oh,
(16:54):
you're right, and I like them too, So so Anti
we're gonna say.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Well, I went watching the show. I feel like I
could sense a little bit of that inks that you
were talking about, but I knew there was something underneath
of like you know when a brown person or a
black person or any person of color goes onto the show,
and when you're surrounded by people who are maybe a
little more privileged, it's like, this is our shot, you know,
And especially when you're going through somethings as deep as
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like your mom.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Which that was all bubbling and I even know the
chaos of.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Like sorry, you're grieving, but could you like you know,
jump in this thing and like we're gonna take pictures
and we're gonna do like how do you eat? How
did you even have like I don't know as sound
mind during that, Like of course that stuff is going
to leak out a little bit, you know, Like that.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
Was and you know, I think the root of it
was like, fuck, my mom's dying. Sorry, I don't know
if crap, my mom's dying, you know, So I think
that was always what was really happening, right, And then
like also like this is not I I understand. I see,
like it's bigger than me, Like my opportunities are bigger than.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Me getting to live my life my dream something. You're
super county. But I'm like, there's more to.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
This than just me being sickening on stage and getting
an opportunity, Like you know, I know that, like I
need to do something that matters in the small little
window that I get to have. And like what that
looked like was for me to represent where I could.
And you know, my mom was my link in connection
to my culture. So I think also knowing that my
mom was like leaving, I had to get as much
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as I could of my latinists, my latinity Dad for
my mommy in that moment. And you know, for me,
my art, my drag is a reflection of whatever I'm
going through in the moment. What I was going through
was like like Latin identity, owning it, trying to be
proud of it. Like my discovery of my Latinydad was
happening in that moment while my mom was passing away.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
So I was trying to stuck everything.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
I can before you know, I can't it makes sense,
and you.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
Know, then I threw it into my drag and like
that's what it ended up being in the moment, and
I'm still going crazy and I'm you know, so it's
like that's what it was in the moment, and it
represented where it could and I did the best.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
It was so good, but it was interesting because.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
I got a lot of hate on top of it,
you know what I mean, And that was very there, and.
Speaker 6 (19:18):
People were like, you're a caricature, You're not really Latina
because I'm not Mexican. But it's like it's it was
all these different things. So I was like facing all
this backlash from my own Latin community, and like, you know,
I was like, what a gaykeeper.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
I don't know what the thing is is there's not
a soft place for us to land when we do
kind of like like fall into those those possible tropes,
Like there's nobody gives us a soft place to land,
to learn and to grow. They're just like we should
inherently know what's right or wrong without like let's educate
each other. Like I think that's the thing about our
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culture is that we don't give space and that softness
to gently be like hey friend, or like hey, it's
just completely like crazy and you're on a public like
international stage, like world stage to be criticized and judge.
I mean when we were at BuzzFeed for Bettle, like
(20:12):
you know, that was like a big platform and we
got it from every angle, but like and they expected
every you know, us to be perfect and I think
that perfection like was definitely placed on you at that
time because I was watching it. Yeah, I'm a drag
race historian.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
And then the white producers don't even understand that what
I'm doing, you know what I mean, So it becomes
the whole thing from yeah, it's it's and that people
don't see that too when they watch the show.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
They're just like and I'm.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
Like, wait, girl, because it's a lot of different things
I'm trying to do with different built you know, blocks
in the way, and it's like, I think that's you
know even That's why I'm so inspired by you, curly,
like watching you in the industry and doing everything you
do because it's like and you know, and where what
I've come to today too is like you know, I was.
I also had like my Mexican best friend, my stylist
(21:01):
by my side, so I had a lot of you know,
influence with him as well, representing his style and like
putting that into my art. And it's like today it's
like I don't have to shove anything down anyone's throat.
I just get to be myself and like that is
a you know, I think about that interview with Jenny
Ortega when the commentator was like, you're Latina enough.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Baby, Oh my god.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
I saw that and I just started crying because I'm
like that, I just need to hear that, you know, Like, well.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
That's the thing.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
I always say that, like if you want to sit
at the table lat you need that you're welcome to.
Like for me, I'm like, I don't give a ship
if you don't speak Spanish. You want to learn about
your culture. Learn about your culture, sit in it, you
know what I mean, Like learn be a part of it.
And especially right now when families are being ripped apart,
right like, don't fuck with right now because we're going
to get off. Yeah, we need everybody right now. I
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don't care if you think it's like are you going
to fight for.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
The family or not?
Speaker 6 (21:58):
And especially because maybe I don't know, like we have
a voice louder than most right now. You know, I
think too, you know, Yeah, I was a I was
at a dialogue the other day with a panel Latinos
and they were like someone asked, like who here is
able to vote? And like I raised my hands, I'm
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like I can vote. I didn't realize what she was
doing in that moment when she was asking us, and
I looked around and like only a few of us
had our hands up.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
So I was like, oh, oh, I see what you're doing.
Get it.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
And I was like, and we're the ones who have
to stand up and vote and use our voice because
we have that, you know, privilege or whatever the case is.
Like I don't know what we're really that is, but
like we're the ones who get to speak up and
stand up for their voice. List in a way, you know,
and like, thank god I can talk the way that
I can't do, you know, because people will listen differently
to like even going back to those producers who don't understand.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
It's like I also did want to touch up on
like the I think when it comes to being a
black and brown or a person who is a minority,
a part of an oppressed group, when you hold people
in privilege accountable and you do make comments like white
folk this or white folk that, I think that like
for me, I actually have had this conversation with a
lot of other creatives because I also had the same
guilt because I was very angry early better like days,
(23:13):
very early better like days.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
I was very angry because we would.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Be like we need support, like we need Latino support,
Like we need people to help us with our content,
and people would send us like hot Cheeto memes or
different things. We're like, we don't want to be a trope,
Like what else do you have? My rule of thumb now, though,
is that if it has like nothing to do with
like privilege or like civil rights or anything, I don't
call out somebody's Like when I'm like, look at that
(23:38):
white girl dancing, I'm not gonna do that, right.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
But if I'm like, hey, go use your white lady privilege.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
To get these people through the door, I'm gonna say
something like that, Yeah, I'll make a little joke about it,
like oh, she's gonna ask for the manager, you know,
like that sort of bit thing. Like I think that
it's still okay, and just I think for me, just
to not don't be as hard on yourself or like
the way that we as let theos or queer individuals
are finding ourselves in real time right Like when you
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learn about the history of this country, I mean, the
country's two hundred years old, it's super young, you know
what I mean, And you think about all these things
that happened, like civil rights and the way that like
there was something called like it it was called like
the wet Back something where they were deporting Mexican people
in the forties and the fifties who were American citizens.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
And so it's happening right now.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
It's happening right now, right, And so you kind of
go like if you make.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
A little angry statement, I think that you know, I
just I just want to like give you also just
like it's okay shit.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
But that's the thing what you were saying too, is
like giving space for us to grow and figure it
out too, you know, like like I know my intentions
are good and clear, and it's like and when we're
in the spotlight like we are, it's hard for people
watching to understand like all the different pressures, right, So
I think it's about just giving grace. And like, you know,
I was listening to this other podcast that is like
(24:56):
which podcast.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
There is no other podcast in the webs that's the only.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
No.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
But yeah, it was just that idea of just like
allowing grace, Like we can't be keep canceling everyone, like,
especially when your own community is a bitch. I'm trying
to help, Like why don't you teach me how to
have better help.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Yes, So like I got you by my own community too,
I got canceled by you own Latino community, and I
was like, I understand you. Like I I was like, oh,
that really hurt because I'm trying to do right by
us and I don't come from academia.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Me neither.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
And that's the thing too, Like I had this opportunity
where I have this platform and.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
A girl I went to fucking musical theater college.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
I don't have feel time step and I don't know
how to protest and I use my voice, but I
have a platform and I want to make sure it's
for good.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
So I'm doing my best.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yeah, you know they're like they're like what do they
call them, like couch something or they like couch commentators.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Keyboard warriors people.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Yeah, And it's it's like when you're also trying to
discover or trying to come to terms and learn about
your own Latini that and your own you know, background
and what it means to you. It's like and then
you get heavily criticized.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
You know, it makes you want to be like, it
makes you I don't want to help.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yeah, they're doing what the oppressors are doing, which makes
you not want to be associated with this ship because
you're like, well, fuck you guys.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Because it makes me feel like, oh, maybe I'm just
not that girl.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
Maybe I don't have to be the representation, you know,
Maybe I just go over here and make people laugh
and be stupid and like that. That's but it's also like,
which I know more than just that too. Yeah, So
it's interesting dynamic.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
I think that we do that a lot to each other, right,
Like we're constantly like taking away the value of our
own experiences and being like you're not enough. And so
one of the things that I always talk about is
like when will I be enough? And when was I enough?
Was it when my dad came under a bus to
get here, you know, with the luggage, was when my
well on my mom had to cross the desert and
river to get here?
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Was it when I was eating poopoosas like as a
kid all the.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Time, and then like learning English and Spanish at the
same time. Oh no, but it's not because I'm misgendered
lavinthana or I don't know how to say a certain word.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
Given me Latino sometimes like.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
You know, well, my old thing is like, you know,
until we really learned to kind of acknowledge that we
are the product of colonization. We are we're descendants of
Native Americans, people who were indigenous to the Americas, and
also people who were brought who were enslaved in Africa
and brought over.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Until we acknowledged our African.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
Identity and those who have it and those who have
the mestiso side, I don't have a funk about it.
A letter at the end of Latino Latin, Like I'm like,
keep it, it's yours.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
I don't want to have.
Speaker 6 (27:51):
It, you know, And like it just makes me feel
like I'm pretty I'm in my deep like soulf purpose
spiritual reading books.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
We have to talk about reading books and stuff.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
She's actually reading books.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Somebody's books.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Don't have books. She's like, no, it's a.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Slow process, like two pages a day. I'm like, it's hard,
but like it just.
Speaker 6 (28:18):
Makes me feel like we as brown people and people
of color are so powerful and that's why the white
men are so scared. Right and I'm talking about government
and like look at our country right now, Like you
know what I mean, That's what I'm speaking of. When
I say that is like they're so afraid of the
power we possess because I think we are so powerful
and we are so connected to our roots, and our
roots go so deep, you know what I mean, And
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like look at the land that has been built because
of the people, right, Like it's just we have so
much rich power that exists, and like everything is just
trying to keep us from recognizing that power all the time.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
And when we get an ounce.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
Of like, oh I have it, And the thing is
we all have it, Like it's always it's there, It's
always been there, and like it's like I talked about
before when I was younger and those kids told me
the f's learn that gay is not okay. I'm like,
oh I let my power slip away in that moment, right,
like back back back, and then I think even back
back childhood, childhood, there's stuff that power gets sucked out
and we believe, Oh I can't, I can't. I think
(29:15):
our whole journey is to like recognize, no, we got
that power, girl, and it's always been inside of us, right,
And like to find people that I can tell have
that power right and like have that aura, and like
those are the people I want to be more gravitated.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Right, we all start jiggling our titties.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yes, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
I wish.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
These are period because I'm like, I don't know how
your guys' backs do it?
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Girl, So can I also just dive into Like I mean,
grief is a really big.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Thing that I talk about a lot.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Oh my god, yes, yes, and one of the things.
I mean, we have sobriety and just grieving and stuff too.
So how did you find the space too? We had
meich Prada was one of my other best ties on
the show, and she was she's on Viva as well,
and she her mom passed away and she just stopped
working completely, Like she was just very open about like
I can't do that, I can't do all these things.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
So like what did you feel?
Speaker 5 (30:09):
Like what were you going through and like and what
advice would you have for people that might be dealing
with that now?
Speaker 6 (30:14):
Yeah, totally, And like I love you and I know
your grandmom and so much to you like watching you.
(30:35):
That happened around the same time too, I think you
know a little bit.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
I think I think my grandma's going into it. When
did your mom pass?
Speaker 1 (30:40):
My mom passed twenty twenty three January.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Yes, okay, you're right. Yes, I was.
Speaker 6 (30:44):
Watching you go through that, and I was like going
through it too, and you know, it's so interesting. I
was going through it before she passed away, Like I said, right,
like I was popping off. I was so angry, I
had angst and all this stuff. And then my mom
passed and I had the sense of like, Okay, well
she's not suffering anymore, and the reality is that she's
not here no more. But what I had was this
(31:06):
like conscious understanding that my mom has now got my back,
you know, like she always had my back growing like
in life, but like now I understand that she is
doing some her soul is doing something for me in
this life now.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
And it was very clear.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
I got signs very quickly like that's my mommy, Oh
my mom is doing this. Oh why is this happening, bitch?
This has to be And also like my two grandmas
passed away right before my mom, and I remember my
mom was like in her bed, like out of it,
and at one time she was.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Like mommy, no, mommy no. And I was like she's
talking to her mom, like that's weird. It was just weird.
And then she went back and she fell asleep again.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
And I was just like, like the heck.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
So there's obvious connection with all of them there.
Speaker 6 (31:51):
When I talk to any mediums that I trust and
you know, know her gifted and like that, they're all together,
you know, and they all have my back, and they're
all parting up there, and they're all like always say,
every every one I've been to has been like your
mom's working overtime, like up there, you know, for you,
what's your mommy's name?
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Not?
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Okay, I'm going to keep her in my.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
I love like saying our ancestors and our spirits seems
names out loud. I always say that, like we I
always It's like in the beginning there was the word,
and the word was God, and the word was with God.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
And I believe that we have the power to create and.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
Speak life and spark life back into things. And so
when we say their names out loud, I feel like,
for just a moment, we can shake death off of them.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
And like even right now.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Like dead, she is alive, you know what I mean,
like the vessel.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
The vessel's gone, but her soul and spirit is still there,
right And like I said, we know these books about
soul's journey, and I remember doing like past life readings
of stuff and like learning about that and like like
if our soul is here to learn a lesson, and
I feel like that's really what it was, like is
what was happening here? Like our soul within this body
is here to learn a lesson. And everyone we meet
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and everyone come across, it's like lessons, less and lessons
if you choose to look at them. A lot of
times we go through life we don't look at the
lesson because, bitch, there's too much to deal with.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
I don't want to learn that lesson. Yet I'm there
and it feels too much.
Speaker 6 (33:18):
Falling down the treehouse, you know, And then something happens,
a spark of inspiration or something is like, girl, get sober?
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Why did I get sober twenty one?
Speaker 7 (33:26):
You know?
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Why are we sober for so long?
Speaker 6 (33:29):
I think about that all the time, and like why
am I, out of all people sober at twenty one
and decided to stay sober? Yeah, when a lot of
my friends at the time couldn't stay sober, died, don't
are out here still using like like why me? And
that makes me feel even more so my lesson is
to like go through this as a sober kid younger,
and it's allowed me to be more conscious and open
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to whatever is supposed to be happening. So like when
my mom passed, I think what happened for me, And
so anyone who's grieving is like, you know, it's interesting
to you. Like I watch my dad and my sister,
and I feel like they're so sunken and depleted, you know,
because they lost their wife and their mom. And I
see that in them, and it's like, why am I
so like alive and enriched and filled by her, you know, like.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
Like because you feel her because you understand and you
recognize that, like you just said it, like the vessel
is gone, but the energy is doing so much more now.
And I feel like, and I think that's like we
celebrate our ancestors, we celebrate our people, and it's like
I feel like my grandma is still with me. Like
when people are like, I'm like, I'm not really.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Scared of that because I know my grandma that stuff
because I'm like somebody out the work she's doing, not
on my baby. And it's interesting because it goes back
to what you're.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
Saying, like I'm not academia, Like I don't have vernacular
words to talk about stuff, but like this kind of stuff,
it feels deep and real rich.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
And that's more knowledge that you can't buy.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
Yeah, and if those wu wu and what the hell
are these people talking about?
Speaker 1 (35:05):
But it's like the proof is in the pudding.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
Like I look at where I'm at, you know what
I mean, Look what's happening in my life, and that's
not just because of me, you know.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
So I think that's how.
Speaker 6 (35:14):
I kind of work through my grieving process was just
the assurance that I know she's still with me, and
allowing myself to let that in, you know, and not
be afraid of it. And like, you know, I think again,
like we're powerful people, Like we all have power within us,
and I think like owning that power and knowing that
(35:35):
it's being fueled by loved ones, by a higher power,
by a source, by God, whatever you choose to believe,
like relinquishing yourself to that. And you know, for someone
like me, like I was a crackhead in the streets, homeless,
like you know, I had no power, and when I
got sober, I learned, I'm I'm I can't be my
own power because myself does these things. I don't want
(35:56):
to deal with life, so I need something else, God,
whatever your higher power is.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
That's how you know.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
That's I build that relationship. I run that relationship. And
then oh an angel of my mommy, oh my grandma,
oh my other grandma, my grandpa, Oh my God, my
friend who died of drugs, Like I know he's over
there because he loved dragon and looking drag race.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Like that's how I.
Speaker 6 (36:13):
See things, and that's how I feel like I'm maneuvering
through and like it's working for me right, Like where
before when my mom was alive still and like hurting
and you know, in her the hospital and whatever, like
I had my friends I was. I wasn't leaning on God.
I was leaning on like like my friends who are
angsty and power like yeah, you're right, you.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Know, like like absorb that energy too, yes, And.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
They're not necessarily whole, you know, like or correct in
the head either. So it's like it's like the blind
leading the blind, and like that's just my process, right,
that was my journey, and it's like, okay, cool, thank
you my friends. I needed you. I needed them at
that time. Had I not had them. Who knows what
would have happened, right, I needed those friends at the time.
But then I was like, Okay, let's recalibrate, got it,
(36:56):
And now I can because I'm recalibrated, I can love
them even more so now than I could before.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Yeah, you sound effects too.
Speaker 6 (37:03):
I was like, yeah, I'm sorry, I feel like I
sound so like boring or.
Speaker 5 (37:11):
I was going to say to you, it's crazy because
I just in the years that I've known you, I've
never had a bad experience with you, and so I
hope that that's something that you also take with you
and you're kind to yourself because like truly, just being
your friend and being in your presence always has always
been such a joy, and You've always had so much love,
and I genuinely feel safe with you when I'm with you,
Like I think about I think I ran into you
on like Melrose one years.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
I don't know why.
Speaker 6 (37:33):
I think about that all the time, Like it was
literally like boo boo, we left.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yeah, we were like I love you so much and.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
That moment so crazy. So it's funny because I feel
like maybe our spirit's.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Just new and then our spirit too through the TV.
Speaker 7 (37:52):
Oh my god, and you were like, oh my girl, right,
and you're like yeah, but even like that's the power
of like, you know, representation close to you.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Yeah, that's what I would hope, right, And that's what
I was wise.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
I was like, this bitch loves Selena. Her name is Selena.
She has titties, Like.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
I guess who.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
You don't.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
I used to live in a we have so many
Selena synchronicity. That's for the next episode.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Dress.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
I'm not going to say, well, we won't.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
We'll keep it.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Sorry, these are hot takes in a jar. So whatever
you the super on it, whatever you get, give us
your hot take or your opinion on it.
Speaker 6 (38:50):
Okay, we have getting petty revenge girl, Okay, getting petty Revenge.
It's you know, like everything we've been talking about. It's
like I'm maturing right spiritually, titily, like my tities are maturing,
getting snacky. I'm like growing up. I also, I'm like
(39:11):
thirty four, you know what I mean. It's like I'm
not necessarily throwing ass in the club anymore.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
You know.
Speaker 6 (39:15):
I went to the I went to the club the
other day and I was like, I'm too old and
you go home, responsibilities, You know, so I'm like I'm maturing.
So like as I think of Petty Revenge, that was
very much me, Like Petty, where I find that comes
out of me today is like with boys and boys
(39:36):
who like like swerve me or like lead me on,
and then I want to get petty and I want
to say shit back, and it's like but today with
where I'm at and like what I'm finding is like girl,
Petty Revenge don't serve me.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
It does not do anything for me.
Speaker 6 (39:49):
I get something in that moment, but ultimately, like I act,
you know, and like the thing is like I don't
want to say I'm acting out of character because by
me acting like that, it's part of my character.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
But it's like I don't want my character to be
that anymore, you know, as I move forward.
Speaker 6 (40:02):
I had a thing when I was on Drag Race
and I said something out of pocket to like someone
and I was like that's not me, and like that
isn't who I am. So the fact that I went
to that place, there's something else happening here. So I'm
a big I'm a big believer of like working on
your own shit, girl, because it's like like I have
friends who are super petty and ghetto, right, and sometimes
(40:22):
they say things and I'm like, we are not in
high school like.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Some unhealed traits right now, you're in a very low frequency. Yeah,
worried that.
Speaker 6 (40:33):
I don't want to sound like that because it's sounds
so corny and like, you know, like freaking square.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Like like also like you know, I love being a
bad bitch. I like that energy.
Speaker 6 (40:41):
So like bad bitch and like petty revenge go hand
in hand a little bit sometimes and we see that, right,
like you know, we think of the show Baddies and
like all like that chaos so much. Yes, but it's
like also like I can't live like that because if
I live like that, I don't get the beauties and
prices that I want in.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Life real life.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Like nobody's like like, don't be like that in life.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (41:02):
So I'm like petty revenge it's fun, it's fun to
watch on TV shows, but it's like I don't know,
I think times it can creep up, but I think
about if I do it, if I'm trying to be
petty and revengeful, I want it to be clever, smart
and like in.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
A good way.
Speaker 6 (41:15):
Yeah, I don't want to actually be malicious or like
hurt nobody, Like, that's not who I am.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
So like then when I think a petty revenge, I
think about that.
Speaker 6 (41:22):
But I have friends who are a petty girl, and
I'm like, it is very popcorn you.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
That way.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
I try not to do that.
Speaker 6 (41:30):
Yeah, because it's also like I want more life, you know,
like I want more and acting certain ways don't get
you more.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
So that's kind of my mindset today, is like I
want more.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Welcome to this strology section of the podcast.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
So oh wow, glitter, glitter, glitter.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
So do you know your big three?
Speaker 6 (41:52):
Yes, I'm a Libra. That's my son, and then my
moon is Gemini, and then my rising is Taurus.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
I don't know a lot.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
About Torres, double air Earth. That's why.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Okay, that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 5 (42:07):
I feel like that's probably explains why you're so much
fun and you have this like light energy with having
two signs that are airy, and then I feel like
with the Taurus in there, you have your ship together,
and that's why you probably are like I need to
go home from the club and sew my out there.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
Right. The Taurus is like it, you know, because our
rising sign is like how we proceed, yes, yeah, and
how we show up like first impression. So you know,
you could seem really like stable.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
And get together together.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
But I feel like your Gemini Moon's crazy girl. I
feel like I saw a little bit of yeah, oh yeah,
that was best friend.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
But then your Libra, you know, and libras are so
like they're like the Venetian like beautiful sign of the zodiac.
And I feel like it kind of balanced out both
of them to where you're like, yes, you can still
be stable and you can be chaotic, but like let's
be beautiful about it.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (43:06):
And that's the thing, right, I've been ugly many times.
I know how to be ugly, and it's like.
Speaker 5 (43:11):
Libras think that they're ugly, but they're usually the prettiest
one in the room, is what I always. Neighbors have
like a natural beauty to them always. And the thing
that I love about libras though, is that I always
say that you guys are all secretly antisocial. Always, yes, party,
but I always want to be like, heres calm down
when they can go home. Yeah, And they're always like
I just want to go home, girl, But they're so
(43:32):
nice when you like meet them at parties and stuff.
My favorite thing I think about libras is that I
would say is that you invite through your own liberation,
though you always invite others to be part of that
liberation too. Yeah, And I think that that's something I
see in all my Libra friends, where we're like, oh, I.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Can do that, yeah to you.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
And in order to do that, you have to be
able to be free yourself right.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
And that Gemini moon too, I feel it gives you
a little.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Bit of that home though home.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
It gives And that concludes these strategy.
Speaker 5 (44:03):
I've been calling it zodiac for all four seasons, and
you always say astrology and we always okay, well, well Maya,
how do you plead on this episode?
Speaker 3 (44:15):
Oh my gosh, I'm just so excited that you're here.
I feel like I manifested this honestly, Like if I
knew that one day that this is going to happen,
I'd be like, amaz, it's crazy.
Speaker 5 (44:25):
And I'm just so happy that you hear, like truly,
just I'm like, why don't we hang out more and more?
We say that every time I need to come over,
I need to come over on your couch and just
watch and like bring snacks and stuff. Actually I used
to sew before, so maybe I'll just get on a
needle and thread or let's.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
Do it and I'll be like, good job jumpsuits.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
And then we'll wear them to the next one.
Speaker 5 (44:45):
My god, thank you so much, my love for joining
us today. Where can people find you? Where can they
follow you and support you?
Speaker 6 (44:51):
And you can find me on Instagram at s TDS
that's E S T I T T I S S T.
And I have a YouTube channel, I have music. I'm
working on new me right now, I'm working, I have
some I'll have a lot of scripts right now. I'm
in my Hollywood back at the moment I was like
if she was the South Central girl on season fifteen,
Like today, baby, we moved to Hollywood and we're working.
So I'm like in my like TV film era back
(45:13):
once again so much.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
Where people find you on.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
Social media, you could find me Maya in the Moment
at m a Ya in the moment, anywhere you scroll
what about you?
Speaker 5 (45:22):
You can find me at the Curly v Show, s
theories on Instagram and TikTok and me too.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
I'm going to take her names. Thank you so much
for watching another episode the super Secred Bestie Club Podcast.
Hit us up in our social media to let us
know what you want to hear another put episode, Bye.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
Yeah and look at those things jiggle.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
I just saw them have a mind of their own.
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Or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
Getting petty revenge.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Ooh girl, Yeah, and look at those things. Chick.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
I just saw that, but then I brought it home
and my Dad's like, this is demonic.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
I want more life, you know, like I want more.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I never know what you're gonna say.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yes, my name is Curly.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
And I'm Maya, the super Secret Bestie called Podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Season four is here.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
And we're locked in.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
That means more juicy cheese, man.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Terrible love advice.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Evil spells to cast on your eggs.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, we're not doing that this season.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Oh well, this season we're leveling up.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
Each episode will feature a special bestie and you're not
gonna want to miss it.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
So what are you waiting for?
Speaker 6 (00:43):
Get in here?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
What the heck is somebody on the roof?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Who is that? I'm looking up at the moon and
I'm chickening, like, oh my god, oh god?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
That is that Selena?
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Is that Silico? Like?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Why did Selena have an Adams?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Because I'm Selena and Abraham.
Speaker 6 (01:20):
Get in here? That was perfect?
Speaker 5 (01:24):
Wow, already magical being in your presence today, we have
an amazing, exciting guest on the show, truly an icon
and a trailblazer and one of my sweet angel friends Selena.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Cities who.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Severe right, Yeah, it looks real. I know. I love it.
They're just these little chicken color out YouTube but.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
Okay, So I do want to introduce you. You so
lovingly and so sweet invited me to present you with
an award.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I was so honored you said yes, because you could
have been like, girl, that's too far?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Are you hitting me? Literally? Anything for you always?
Speaker 5 (02:08):
And I it was for the Purple Heart Awards, Purple
Lily Awards and you. So I was invited to go
stage and presenting this award and I wrote this speech
for you, and I think the speech originally had like
a lot of like sassier jokes in it. I don't
remember what they were. And then I called Maya and
I was like, oh, can I read this to you?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
And being a fan of your ye oh yes, I was.
You cannot do my girl like that.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, I don't even It wasn't even that bad.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Because I know your personality on the show and everything,
and I'm like, I feel like she'll like this a
little bit.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Yeah, And I know you, so I don't but I
don't know you on the show, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Because I.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
And like you met me when I first started drag,
you know, like I was just breaking out, you know.
I started doing drag in the club scene in West
Hollywood and competition and I was winning. And then the
girls were mad. Maybe the girls were mad that I
was winning. Who's this girl coming up over here looking crazy?
Because I look crazy in the beginning make up?
Speaker 1 (03:08):
What's crazy?
Speaker 6 (03:09):
My looks crazy? So I was like, I'm not here
for this drama. So I was like, let me go
do my Hollywood thing. So I started booking stuff TV
and film, and so that's where.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I want to do. It's when our thrive. And then
I met you on the set on.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
The set of Yeah exactly.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
So I went on stage, and I want to read
the speech that I gave for you when I came up,
and I'll go through briefly. Briefly, but I met Selena
s Titties years ago on the set of the hit
show hit TV show Vida. We were both celebrated extras
background actors who met in the catering line and instantly
became friends. However, I cut the line, said my goodbye
to Selena and sold her out for some mediocre lunch
(03:43):
food to hang out with the actors with speaking parts
on Viva, but I knew it wasn't the end for us.
We followed each other on Instagram and I was immediately
blown away by their ability to mix medias into iconic performances.
Selena has the gift of mixing well known lines from
memorable movies into dope ass pop tracks and then giving
us the lip sync.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Of our lives.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
Sure, our journey in the lunch line was cut short,
but I knew it was only a matter of time
for her start to be discovered and celebrated. And this
is true by the way I knew it. Cut to
season fifteen of the Emmy Award winning show We called
Drag Race, and who do I see on my TV
but my beautiful friend Selena. On the show, she made
it a point to represent her culture, our culture in
ways that were authentic, fun, and.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Of course fucking fabulous.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
She has given us Chola camp Kitaniana Drag and represented
iconic Latina women like Levitndouela lupe to Or the Explorer
and of course the late Selena Kitania Perez. And this
is Maya wrote this part. Selena, We're also proud of you.
I think even your namesake Selena Kitania would be so
honored to know that her legacy continues on through a
drag queen who has used her name and added s
(04:44):
titties at.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
The end of it.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Thank you for this award everyone, the best last.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Line ever, truly a queer excellence. And then I did
want to say that my favorite heart of being Selina's
friend has always been and the warmth of her heart,
her vulnerability and talking about sobriety thirteen years at the time,
is it now fourteen?
Speaker 1 (05:05):
We're reaching fourteen in November.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
Wow, that's right, we have similar birthdays and the tenderness
of her light. I'm so so excited present the word
and have you on the show. So please welcome us
or our listeners in welcoming the Iconslinas Cities.
Speaker 6 (05:19):
What I mean, you're just you've just grown so much,
Like it's such it's so crazy.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yeah, it's so interesting, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (05:30):
I'm very much right now, like in a deep like
you know, we talk about like what's her purpose in life?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Like what are we doing?
Speaker 6 (05:37):
Especially I think people moved to La you know, and
they think like I'm gonna be a star, and it's like, girl, it's.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Not that easy for some people.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
Sure, but it's like even then, so when you become
the star, it's like there's a whole other life to.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Navigate from their ons.
Speaker 6 (05:51):
Absolutely, I think we're all here just looking for like
our soul's purpose and like how do we how do
we do that? And I don't know even you know,
it's crazy. The fact that I'm a drag queen is crazy.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Like I never signed up for this. This was not
the dream, This was not the goal. Was Yeah, I
don't know.
Speaker 6 (06:06):
I just always knew it was going to be performing.
I didn't know it was going to be like this,
you know, And like I trained as a boy and
that's how I have my performance abilities and stuff, so like,
but for some reason, this is where it landed, and
it's I'm getting to do everything I want to do
with her, you know.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
I remember because I feel like in La you see
a lot of people, creative people who are just fantastic
and you and you want them to win and you
want to root for them. And I remember seeing your
performances early on and they were all just so fucking funny,
like because you would mix like a mean Girls clip
and then mix it in with like a Christianner in
the Mean Girls World and then dance like an amazing
(06:44):
song and it was like, why is this the fucking
funniest performance I've ever seen?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Thank you?
Speaker 6 (06:50):
I'm very inspired by New York drag queens like there,
and you know what that is is the theater because
those are all theater girls broadly New York or not
on Broadway, and now they do drags, so they just
corporate their theatrics and that's what I do. I just
incorporated my theater background into my Yeah, and drag to
me is theater, like you know, like like I'm a
theater girl at heart, like I grew up and you
(07:11):
know I didn't. I talk about soul's purpose and all that, right,
like how you find where? Where do I fit in?
I remember feeling like a ghost and a shell of
a person from like like I remember these boys told
me I was gay, like like I realized what gay
was and that it wasn't good.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
When I was like I don't know, sixth grade, sixth grade.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
The boys let me know that it was bad or something,
you know, like maybe fourth grade, fourth five, sixth was
pretty young too, and from like you know, they're like
f slur and like that's not cool, that's gross. So
I was like, oh, okay, I feel like that was
the moment. I was like the light was sucked out right.
And then I remember when I stepped into theater. I
did Greece. I played thee not the Teenager. I played
(07:52):
Johnny Casino the hand Drive, and all of a sudden,
I was like the light was found again. So like
I started to like, I started to like feel myself
more again, like in the theater world.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
And high school in choire, and that.
Speaker 6 (08:06):
Kind of led to this theatricalness that I like love,
and that's where I started to find my light of
you know, of what brings me to light, right, So
like that was very exciting.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
And then like here I.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Am because you're from La born and raised right or what.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I grew up in Bay Area in.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
San Francisco, Okay, And then when do you also say,
like yay area and that might be two thousand and five.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
I was there for that. I was I was there
for the ya know what I mean, Let's get yeah down.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
It's so interesting.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
But I would always come down to South Central because
has lived down here, so we were constantly the wild
take us down here, like every other weekend, we go
to school bye sox, you know, underwear, and then we
come back home. So I was I was in South
Central A lot growing up with my cousins. But I
moved here when I was seventeen. So I moved to
LA when I was seventeen. Did you move to I
moved to Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Which part of Hollywood.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Franklin Coenga, Oh nice, Okay.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
I have a theory that people who I'm from here
always moved to North Hollywood first.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Oh that happened was like North Korea town, okay.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
Or they find themselves in Koreatown before they moved to
Silver Like that's l A.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
And they're like, LA is so chaotic.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I'm like, ok is very chaotic.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
That's where traffic loves.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
That's your first experience of l A.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I'm like, oh correct, yeah, so yeah yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
So I've been in and out of LA as a kid,
you know what I mean. But then I came here
in seventeen. We claim you Now I've been here forever.
I feel like, you know, it's not unfamiliar to me.
So I call myself like a West Coast baby through
and through.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
You know, I haven't the area I went to.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
High school in Stockton, which is heleghetto and then now
you know, la.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I did a garden Stockton once he's hot.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
They they had a sharp pin, a sharp one of
those peans that like kind of like pokes you.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah, like there's just the shape of it interesting, you know,
I mean a sharp were created equals, which is my
favorite thing about them.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Yeah, they're like I school.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yeah, I never know what you're going to say.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yes, you know, the boos are the new Pokemon.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
I think.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Travels in London.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
In London, they fake ones. Yeah, interesting enough.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
My friend was just in London and his first one
I ever got was the Black Rainbow Secret.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
I was like, I hate you.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Then I brought it home and my Dad's like.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
People think they're demons.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Oh yeah, it's a knockoff one.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
I'm like, a demon's not gonna want to possess a knockoff.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Like I think they would because they look scary. To
be honest, are scared.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
They only have nineteenth but real ones have ten. It's
not a real one.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
I love that people are really afraid of these things,
that this is like a real thing that people are
actually talking about.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
It has a chip in them.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Oh you know, everything has a chip. I welcome the
chip to listen.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Give me a deridle cool ranch chip. I know what
I know? You know, so I knew it fifteen.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
I was like the hot Cheeto girl, right, which is
like whatever, but likes will bring me hot Cheetos everywhere
I went all around the world, they bring me hot Cheetos. Baby,
my stomach cannot handle it anymore. I'm getting older.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Too, you know, like I'm like, I'm not I'm not there.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
I'm turning into the dia. I think you know what
I mean a little bit slowly.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Yes, I would venture to say that cool Ranch, Doritos
and cheddar ruffles are actually more Latina than they're more nineties.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
I feel.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
That's me sour and cheddar ruffles.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Delicious.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
The cool Ranch at the bottom, get that one chip
that has all the seasoning. The thing about cool.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
Ranch those it does make your breast smell horrible. Oh
for me, Yeah, I could just smell the hot I
don't even know what flavor that is.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
It doesn't even have a flavor. Cool Ranch. That's not real.
It's not you know. It's like and it's like, why
is it red? Blue green?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
It's the flavor of glitter.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
It's just so like, yes, it's like a confetti chip
and like it tastes so.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Good sponsored by Coran.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
It's kind of like that and that jiggle.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Wait, but tell me, like when was like your first
time that you were like okay, you're on stage, you're
doing drag. Was that something like a friend introduced you
to or like how did you even fall into it?
Speaker 6 (12:12):
Like were you my friend Marta Bechu she is approving
queen of La and she started drag and we had
both gone sober together and she wanted to start exploring drag.
So I started helping her with my talents that I
have performing choreography. I was able to mix music for her,
so I made her mixes for her. And then she
was doing this, doing this, doing this, and I was
helping her. She got to second place in this competition.
(12:35):
I said, second place is not okay with me.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Maybe oh my god, She's like, you should do it.
So I did a competition. I won. I did nothing.
I did the competition she did and I won that competition.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Wow, Like that's being on stage.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Well, I'm a stage girl, Like I like being on stay.
I'm a performer. So I just and I found that,
like I got to play. You know.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
I always had this thing when I was little too,
whenever my mom took a shopping, I was so jealous
of the girls because we all have so.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Much cute clothes.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
Like my mom would buy these bedazzled things and these
cardigans and all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
And I have to wear a T shirt and jeans, right,
And I was.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
Growing up in like Stockton, which is ghetto, right, or
like like in San Francisco where I was, It's like
I couldn't dress flamboyant or expressive. Like I have a
photo of me as a little boy on my phone
and like he looks.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
So cool, like right, cute.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Green and blue and hat. And what point.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
Did I think, Oh, I can only wear white teas
and jeans, you know, like and try to fit in,
try not to stand out. So I was always like,
so when I was like was able to step into this,
I'm like, oh, I can explore colors and glitters and
like exciting. So that's I think also part of it
too for me. She allowed me to like get more
creative and expressive when I don't feel like I can't
(13:51):
be that out of drag, especially in the gay world.
In la as a Latino boy. You know what I
mean in my Hollywood at the time too, like a
straighten up and like, you know, I can't be too
extravagant around those boys that I think I need.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
And it too like did you want to did you like?
Speaker 1 (14:11):
What does she think about your drag my Mommy? Yeah,
oh she loves it. She loved it. She loved it.
She loved it.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
My mom passed away during drag Race, like when when
it was airing, so that you know. But it's so
interesting because I feel like my mom had cancer like
several times, and the first time she had cancer, I
don't realize that it didn't compute with me that oh
my god, my mom is sick and like she could
be leaving. It didn't compute, and I realized I was
(14:37):
literally just think about this. I look back and I
was like I got in a relationship. I didn't really
care for my friends or even like girl, don't do it,
but I did it. Anyways, I started eating a lot.
I started like just getting outside of me because I
don't think I was able to face that reality and
that news. And it wasn't until she passed away that
I was like, oh shit, I've been like avoiding this
(14:58):
and it happened. And along with the avoidance, I was
on drag race and touring and all this stuff.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
So I go through that experience first. And then your
mom passed while the show was airing.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
So then and then But that was like the most
beautiful blessing in a weird way, because it was like
I had this big distraction at the same time I
was like grieving and like coming to terms with the
fact that oh she's.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Not here no more. It's so weird.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
I mean, how do you even Like I can't even
imagine being having a day job and then being like
having to sit in a meeting and oh.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
But then having like you know, twinks come up to
you like like what's up? You know, So it's interesting,
And that was what was so weird because.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
I, you know, and for me, like like on season
fifteen two, I don't know if you guys really clocked this,
but like I was very angry and I was very aggressive,
especially like you know, you're also who you surround yourself
with too. Like the people I hadn't around me to
were not like they're fantastic, but like they're very They're
not who I'm surrounding myself with today, and it's like
(16:13):
it was very angsty, and it's very like fuck white people,
and you know, it's very pro brown and aggressive and
like you were coming off the COVID, you know, the
pandemic with the Black Lives Matter movement and fuck Karen's
and all this stuff. So that energy was like bleeding into
my art and my work and myself, especially with not
knowing how to deal with like my mom. So I
(16:33):
latched onto the personalities I had around me, which is
very that and so when my mom passed away, I
was like stop, like what's going on here? Like let
me get back to who I am? And and like
that meant getting rid of some people and really finding
out who I was, and I had. You know, some
fans wont say like Selena, we love you and I'm
not even white, but sometimes you say things that like
there's white people who like you. And I was like, oh,
(16:54):
you're right, and I like them too, So so Anti
we're gonna say.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Well, I went watching the show. I feel like I
could sense a little bit of that inks that you
were talking about, but I knew there was something underneath
of like you know when a brown person or a
black person or any person of color goes onto the show,
and when you're surrounded by people who are maybe a
little more privileged, it's like, this is our shot, you know,
And especially when you're going through somethings as deep as
(17:22):
like your mom.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Which that was all bubbling and I even know the
chaos of.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Like sorry, you're grieving, but could you like you know,
jump in this thing and like we're gonna take pictures
and we're gonna do like how do you eat? How
did you even have like I don't know as sound
mind during that, Like of course that stuff is going
to leak out a little bit, you know, Like that.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
Was and you know, I think the root of it
was like, fuck, my mom's dying. Sorry, I don't know
if crap, my mom's dying, you know, So I think
that was always what was really happening, right, And then
like also like this is not I I understand. I see,
like it's bigger than me, Like my opportunities are bigger than.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Me getting to live my life my dream something. You're
super county. But I'm like, there's more to.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
This than just me being sickening on stage and getting
an opportunity, Like you know, I know that, like I
need to do something that matters in the small little
window that I get to have. And like what that
looked like was for me to represent where I could.
And you know, my mom was my link in connection
to my culture. So I think also knowing that my
mom was like leaving, I had to get as much
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as I could of my latinists, my latinity Dad for
my mommy in that moment. And you know, for me,
my art, my drag is a reflection of whatever I'm
going through in the moment. What I was going through
was like like Latin identity, owning it, trying to be
proud of it. Like my discovery of my Latinydad was
happening in that moment while my mom was passing away.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
So I was trying to stuck everything.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
I can before you know, I can't it makes sense,
and you.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
Know, then I threw it into my drag and like
that's what it ended up being in the moment, and
I'm still going crazy and I'm you know, so it's
like that's what it was in the moment, and it
represented where it could and I did the best.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
It was so good, but it was interesting because.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
I got a lot of hate on top of it,
you know what I mean, And that was very there, and.
Speaker 6 (19:18):
People were like, you're a caricature, You're not really Latina
because I'm not Mexican. But it's like it's it was
all these different things. So I was like facing all
this backlash from my own Latin community, and like, you know,
I was like, what a gaykeeper.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
I don't know what the thing is is there's not
a soft place for us to land when we do
kind of like like fall into those those possible tropes,
Like there's nobody gives us a soft place to land,
to learn and to grow. They're just like we should
inherently know what's right or wrong without like let's educate
each other. Like I think that's the thing about our
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culture is that we don't give space and that softness
to gently be like hey friend, or like hey, it's
just completely like crazy and you're on a public like
international stage, like world stage to be criticized and judge.
I mean when we were at BuzzFeed for Bettle, like
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you know, that was like a big platform and we
got it from every angle, but like and they expected
every you know, us to be perfect and I think
that perfection like was definitely placed on you at that
time because I was watching it. Yeah, I'm a drag
race historian.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
And then the white producers don't even understand that what
I'm doing, you know what I mean, So it becomes
the whole thing from yeah, it's it's and that people
don't see that too when they watch the show.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
They're just like and I'm.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
Like, wait, girl, because it's a lot of different things
I'm trying to do with different built you know, blocks
in the way, and it's like, I think that's you
know even That's why I'm so inspired by you, curly,
like watching you in the industry and doing everything you
do because it's like and you know, and where what
I've come to today too is like you know, I was.
I also had like my Mexican best friend, my stylist
(21:01):
by my side, so I had a lot of you know,
influence with him as well, representing his style and like
putting that into my art. And it's like today it's
like I don't have to shove anything down anyone's throat.
I just get to be myself and like that is
a you know, I think about that interview with Jenny
Ortega when the commentator was like, you're Latina enough.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Baby, Oh my god.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
I saw that and I just started crying because I'm
like that, I just need to hear that, you know, Like, well.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
That's the thing.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
I always say that, like if you want to sit
at the table lat you need that you're welcome to.
Like for me, I'm like, I don't give a ship
if you don't speak Spanish. You want to learn about
your culture. Learn about your culture, sit in it, you
know what I mean, Like learn be a part of it.
And especially right now when families are being ripped apart,
right like, don't fuck with right now because we're going
to get off. Yeah, we need everybody right now. I
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don't care if you think it's like are you going
to fight for.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
The family or not?
Speaker 6 (21:58):
And especially because maybe I don't know, like we have
a voice louder than most right now. You know, I
think too, you know, Yeah, I was a I was
at a dialogue the other day with a panel Latinos
and they were like someone asked, like who here is
able to vote? And like I raised my hands, I'm
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like I can vote. I didn't realize what she was
doing in that moment when she was asking us, and
I looked around and like only a few of us
had our hands up.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
So I was like, oh, oh, I see what you're doing.
Get it.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
And I was like, and we're the ones who have
to stand up and vote and use our voice because
we have that, you know, privilege or whatever the case is.
Like I don't know what we're really that is, but
like we're the ones who get to speak up and
stand up for their voice. List in a way, you know,
and like, thank god I can talk the way that
I can't do, you know, because people will listen differently
to like even going back to those producers who don't understand.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
It's like I also did want to touch up on
like the I think when it comes to being a
black and brown or a person who is a minority,
a part of an oppressed group, when you hold people
in privilege accountable and you do make comments like white
folk this or white folk that, I think that like
for me, I actually have had this conversation with a
lot of other creatives because I also had the same
guilt because I was very angry early better like days,
(23:13):
very early better like days.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
I was very angry because we would.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Be like we need support, like we need Latino support,
Like we need people to help us with our content,
and people would send us like hot Cheeto memes or
different things. We're like, we don't want to be a trope,
Like what else do you have? My rule of thumb now, though,
is that if it has like nothing to do with
like privilege or like civil rights or anything, I don't
call out somebody's Like when I'm like, look at that
(23:38):
white girl dancing, I'm not gonna do that, right.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
But if I'm like, hey, go use your white lady privilege.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
To get these people through the door, I'm gonna say
something like that, Yeah, I'll make a little joke about it,
like oh, she's gonna ask for the manager, you know,
like that sort of bit thing. Like I think that
it's still okay, and just I think for me, just
to not don't be as hard on yourself or like
the way that we as let theos or queer individuals
are finding ourselves in real time right Like when you
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learn about the history of this country, I mean, the
country's two hundred years old, it's super young, you know
what I mean, And you think about all these things
that happened, like civil rights and the way that like
there was something called like it it was called like
the wet Back something where they were deporting Mexican people
in the forties and the fifties who were American citizens.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
And so it's happening right now.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
It's happening right now, right, And so you kind of
go like if you make.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
A little angry statement, I think that you know, I
just I just want to like give you also just
like it's okay shit.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
But that's the thing what you were saying too, is
like giving space for us to grow and figure it
out too, you know, like like I know my intentions
are good and clear, and it's like and when we're
in the spotlight like we are, it's hard for people
watching to understand like all the different pressures, right, So
I think it's about just giving grace. And like, you know,
I was listening to this other podcast that is like
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which podcast.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
There is no other podcast in the webs that's the only.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
No.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
But yeah, it was just that idea of just like
allowing grace, Like we can't be keep canceling everyone, like,
especially when your own community is a bitch. I'm trying
to help, Like why don't you teach me how to
have better help.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Yes, So like I got you by my own community too,
I got canceled by you own Latino community, and I
was like, I understand you. Like I I was like, oh,
that really hurt because I'm trying to do right by
us and I don't come from academia.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Me neither.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
And that's the thing too, Like I had this opportunity
where I have this platform and.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
A girl I went to fucking musical theater college.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
I don't have feel time step and I don't know
how to protest and I use my voice, but I
have a platform and I want to make sure it's
for good.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
So I'm doing my best.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yeah, you know they're like they're like what do they
call them, like couch something or they like couch commentators.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Keyboard warriors people.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Yeah, And it's it's like when you're also trying to
discover or trying to come to terms and learn about
your own Latini that and your own you know, background
and what it means to you. It's like and then
you get heavily criticized.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
You know, it makes you want to be like, it
makes you I don't want to help.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yeah, they're doing what the oppressors are doing, which makes
you not want to be associated with this ship because
you're like, well, fuck you guys.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Because it makes me feel like, oh, maybe I'm just
not that girl.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
Maybe I don't have to be the representation, you know,
Maybe I just go over here and make people laugh
and be stupid and like that. That's but it's also like,
which I know more than just that too. Yeah, So
it's interesting dynamic.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
I think that we do that a lot to each other, right,
Like we're constantly like taking away the value of our
own experiences and being like you're not enough. And so
one of the things that I always talk about is
like when will I be enough? And when was I enough?
Was it when my dad came under a bus to
get here, you know, with the luggage, was when my
well on my mom had to cross the desert and
river to get here?
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Was it when I was eating poopoosas like as a
kid all the.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Time, and then like learning English and Spanish at the
same time. Oh no, but it's not because I'm misgendered
lavinthana or I don't know how to say a certain word.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
Given me Latino sometimes like.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
You know, well, my old thing is like, you know,
until we really learned to kind of acknowledge that we
are the product of colonization. We are we're descendants of
Native Americans, people who were indigenous to the Americas, and
also people who were brought who were enslaved in Africa
and brought over.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Until we acknowledged our African.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
Identity and those who have it and those who have
the mestiso side, I don't have a funk about it.
A letter at the end of Latino Latin, Like I'm like,
keep it, it's yours.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
I don't want to have.
Speaker 6 (27:51):
It, you know, And like it just makes me feel
like I'm pretty I'm in my deep like soulf purpose
spiritual reading books.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
We have to talk about reading books and stuff.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
She's actually reading books.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Somebody's books.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Don't have books. She's like, no, it's a.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Slow process, like two pages a day. I'm like, it's hard,
but like it just.
Speaker 6 (28:18):
Makes me feel like we as brown people and people
of color are so powerful and that's why the white
men are so scared. Right and I'm talking about government
and like look at our country right now, Like you
know what I mean, That's what I'm speaking of. When
I say that is like they're so afraid of the
power we possess because I think we are so powerful
and we are so connected to our roots, and our
roots go so deep, you know what I mean, And
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like look at the land that has been built because
of the people, right, Like it's just we have so
much rich power that exists, and like everything is just
trying to keep us from recognizing that power all the time.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
And when we get an ounce.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
Of like, oh I have it, And the thing is
we all have it, Like it's always it's there, It's
always been there, and like it's like I talked about
before when I was younger and those kids told me
the f's learn that gay is not okay. I'm like,
oh I let my power slip away in that moment, right,
like back back back, and then I think even back
back childhood, childhood, there's stuff that power gets sucked out
and we believe, Oh I can't, I can't. I think
(29:15):
our whole journey is to like recognize, no, we got
that power, girl, and it's always been inside of us, right,
And like to find people that I can tell have
that power right and like have that aura, and like
those are the people I want to be more gravitated.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Right, we all start jiggling our titties.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yes, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
I wish.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
These are period because I'm like, I don't know how
your guys' backs do it?
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Girl, So can I also just dive into Like I mean,
grief is a really big.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Thing that I talk about a lot.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Oh my god, yes, yes, and one of the things.
I mean, we have sobriety and just grieving and stuff too.
So how did you find the space too? We had
meich Prada was one of my other best ties on
the show, and she was she's on Viva as well,
and she her mom passed away and she just stopped
working completely, Like she was just very open about like
I can't do that, I can't do all these things.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
So like what did you feel?
Speaker 5 (30:09):
Like what were you going through and like and what
advice would you have for people that might be dealing
with that now?
Speaker 6 (30:14):
Yeah, totally, And like I love you and I know
your grandmom and so much to you like watching you.
(30:35):
That happened around the same time too, I think you
know a little bit.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
I think I think my grandma's going into it. When
did your mom pass?
Speaker 1 (30:40):
My mom passed twenty twenty three January.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Yes, okay, you're right. Yes, I was.
Speaker 6 (30:44):
Watching you go through that, and I was like going
through it too, and you know, it's so interesting. I
was going through it before she passed away, Like I said, right,
like I was popping off. I was so angry, I
had angst and all this stuff. And then my mom
passed and I had the sense of like, Okay, well
she's not suffering anymore, and the reality is that she's
not here no more. But what I had was this
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like conscious understanding that my mom has now got my back,
you know, like she always had my back growing like
in life, but like now I understand that she is
doing some her soul is doing something for me in
this life now.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
And it was very clear.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
I got signs very quickly like that's my mommy, Oh
my mom is doing this. Oh why is this happening, bitch?
This has to be And also like my two grandmas
passed away right before my mom, and I remember my
mom was like in her bed, like out of it,
and at one time she was.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Like mommy, no, mommy no. And I was like she's
talking to her mom, like that's weird. It was just weird.
And then she went back and she fell asleep again.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
And I was just like, like the heck.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
So there's obvious connection with all of them there.
Speaker 6 (31:51):
When I talk to any mediums that I trust and
you know, know her gifted and like that, they're all together,
you know, and they all have my back, and they're
all parting up there, and they're all like always say,
every every one I've been to has been like your
mom's working overtime, like up there, you know, for you,
what's your mommy's name?
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Not?
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Okay, I'm going to keep her in my.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
I love like saying our ancestors and our spirits seems
names out loud. I always say that, like we I
always It's like in the beginning there was the word,
and the word was God, and the word was with God.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
And I believe that we have the power to create and.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
Speak life and spark life back into things. And so
when we say their names out loud, I feel like,
for just a moment, we can shake death off of them.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
And like even right now.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Like dead, she is alive, you know what I mean,
like the vessel.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
The vessel's gone, but her soul and spirit is still there,
right And like I said, we know these books about
soul's journey, and I remember doing like past life readings
of stuff and like learning about that and like like
if our soul is here to learn a lesson, and
I feel like that's really what it was, like is
what was happening here? Like our soul within this body
is here to learn a lesson. And everyone we meet
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and everyone come across, it's like lessons, less and lessons
if you choose to look at them. A lot of
times we go through life we don't look at the
lesson because, bitch, there's too much to deal with.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
I don't want to learn that lesson. Yet I'm there
and it feels too much.
Speaker 6 (33:18):
Falling down the treehouse, you know, And then something happens,
a spark of inspiration or something is like, girl, get sober?
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Why did I get sober twenty one?
Speaker 7 (33:26):
You know?
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Why are we sober for so long?
Speaker 6 (33:29):
I think about that all the time, and like why
am I, out of all people sober at twenty one
and decided to stay sober? Yeah, when a lot of
my friends at the time couldn't stay sober, died, don't
are out here still using like like why me? And
that makes me feel even more so my lesson is
to like go through this as a sober kid younger,
and it's allowed me to be more conscious and open
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to whatever is supposed to be happening. So like when
my mom passed, I think what happened for me, And
so anyone who's grieving is like, you know, it's interesting
to you. Like I watch my dad and my sister,
and I feel like they're so sunken and depleted, you know,
because they lost their wife and their mom. And I
see that in them, and it's like, why am I
so like alive and enriched and filled by her, you know, like.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
Like because you feel her because you understand and you
recognize that, like you just said it, like the vessel
is gone, but the energy is doing so much more now.
And I feel like, and I think that's like we
celebrate our ancestors, we celebrate our people, and it's like
I feel like my grandma is still with me. Like
when people are like, I'm like, I'm not really.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Scared of that because I know my grandma that stuff
because I'm like somebody out the work she's doing, not
on my baby. And it's interesting because it goes back
to what you're.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
Saying, like I'm not academia, Like I don't have vernacular
words to talk about stuff, but like this kind of stuff,
it feels deep and real rich.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
And that's more knowledge that you can't buy.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
Yeah, and if those wu wu and what the hell
are these people talking about?
Speaker 1 (35:05):
But it's like the proof is in the pudding.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
Like I look at where I'm at, you know what
I mean, Look what's happening in my life, and that's
not just because of me, you know.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
So I think that's how.
Speaker 6 (35:14):
I kind of work through my grieving process was just
the assurance that I know she's still with me, and
allowing myself to let that in, you know, and not
be afraid of it. And like, you know, I think again,
like we're powerful people, Like we all have power within us,
and I think like owning that power and knowing that
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it's being fueled by loved ones, by a higher power,
by a source, by God, whatever you choose to believe,
like relinquishing yourself to that. And you know, for someone
like me, like I was a crackhead in the streets, homeless,
like you know, I had no power, and when I
got sober, I learned, I'm I'm I can't be my
own power because myself does these things. I don't want
(35:56):
to deal with life, so I need something else, God,
whatever your higher power is.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
That's how you know.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
That's I build that relationship. I run that relationship. And
then oh an angel of my mommy, oh my grandma,
oh my other grandma, my grandpa, Oh my God, my
friend who died of drugs, Like I know he's over
there because he loved dragon and looking drag race.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Like that's how I.
Speaker 6 (36:13):
See things, and that's how I feel like I'm maneuvering
through and like it's working for me right, Like where
before when my mom was alive still and like hurting
and you know, in her the hospital and whatever, like
I had my friends I was. I wasn't leaning on God.
I was leaning on like like my friends who are
angsty and power like yeah, you're right, you.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Know, like like absorb that energy too, yes, And.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
They're not necessarily whole, you know, like or correct in
the head either. So it's like it's like the blind
leading the blind, and like that's just my process, right,
that was my journey, and it's like, okay, cool, thank
you my friends. I needed you. I needed them at
that time. Had I not had them. Who knows what
would have happened, right, I needed those friends at the time.
But then I was like, Okay, let's recalibrate, got it,
(36:56):
And now I can because I'm recalibrated, I can love
them even more so now than I could before.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Yeah, you sound effects too.
Speaker 6 (37:03):
I was like, yeah, I'm sorry, I feel like I
sound so like boring or.
Speaker 5 (37:11):
I was going to say to you, it's crazy because
I just in the years that I've known you, I've
never had a bad experience with you, and so I
hope that that's something that you also take with you
and you're kind to yourself because like truly, just being
your friend and being in your presence always has always
been such a joy, and You've always had so much love,
and I genuinely feel safe with you when I'm with you,
Like I think about I think I ran into you
on like Melrose one years.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
I don't know why.
Speaker 6 (37:33):
I think about that all the time, Like it was
literally like boo boo, we left.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yeah, we were like I love you so much and.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
That moment so crazy. So it's funny because I feel
like maybe our spirit's.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Just new and then our spirit too through the TV.
Speaker 7 (37:52):
Oh my god, and you were like, oh my girl, right,
and you're like yeah, but even like that's the power
of like, you know, representation close to you.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Yeah, that's what I would hope, right, And that's what
I was wise.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
I was like, this bitch loves Selena. Her name is Selena.
She has titties, Like.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
I guess who.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
You don't.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
I used to live in a we have so many
Selena synchronicity. That's for the next episode.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Dress.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
I'm not going to say, well, we won't.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
We'll keep it.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Sorry, these are hot takes in a jar. So whatever
you the super on it, whatever you get, give us
your hot take or your opinion on it.
Speaker 6 (38:50):
Okay, we have getting petty revenge girl, Okay, getting petty Revenge.
It's you know, like everything we've been talking about. It's
like I'm maturing right spiritually, titily, like my tities are maturing,
getting snacky. I'm like growing up. I also, I'm like
(39:11):
thirty four, you know what I mean. It's like I'm
not necessarily throwing ass in the club anymore.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
You know.
Speaker 6 (39:15):
I went to the I went to the club the
other day and I was like, I'm too old and
you go home, responsibilities, You know, so I'm like I'm maturing.
So like as I think of Petty Revenge, that was
very much me, Like Petty, where I find that comes
out of me today is like with boys and boys
(39:36):
who like like swerve me or like lead me on,
and then I want to get petty and I want
to say shit back, and it's like but today with
where I'm at and like what I'm finding is like girl,
Petty Revenge don't serve me.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
It does not do anything for me.
Speaker 6 (39:49):
I get something in that moment, but ultimately, like I act,
you know, and like the thing is like I don't
want to say I'm acting out of character because by
me acting like that, it's part of my character.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
But it's like I don't want my character to be
that anymore, you know, as I move forward.
Speaker 6 (40:02):
I had a thing when I was on Drag Race
and I said something out of pocket to like someone
and I was like that's not me, and like that
isn't who I am. So the fact that I went
to that place, there's something else happening here. So I'm
a big I'm a big believer of like working on
your own shit, girl, because it's like like I have
friends who are super petty and ghetto, right, and sometimes
(40:22):
they say things and I'm like, we are not in
high school like.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Some unhealed traits right now, you're in a very low frequency. Yeah,
worried that.
Speaker 6 (40:33):
I don't want to sound like that because it's sounds
so corny and like, you know, like freaking square.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Like like also like you know, I love being a
bad bitch. I like that energy.
Speaker 6 (40:41):
So like bad bitch and like petty revenge go hand
in hand a little bit sometimes and we see that, right,
like you know, we think of the show Baddies and
like all like that chaos so much. Yes, but it's
like also like I can't live like that because if
I live like that, I don't get the beauties and
prices that I want in.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Life real life.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Like nobody's like like, don't be like that in life.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (41:02):
So I'm like petty revenge it's fun, it's fun to
watch on TV shows, but it's like I don't know,
I think times it can creep up, but I think
about if I do it, if I'm trying to be
petty and revengeful, I want it to be clever, smart
and like in.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
A good way.
Speaker 6 (41:15):
Yeah, I don't want to actually be malicious or like
hurt nobody, Like, that's not who I am.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
So like then when I think a petty revenge, I
think about that.
Speaker 6 (41:22):
But I have friends who are a petty girl, and
I'm like, it is very popcorn you.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
That way.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
I try not to do that.
Speaker 6 (41:30):
Yeah, because it's also like I want more life, you know,
like I want more and acting certain ways don't get
you more.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
So that's kind of my mindset today, is like I
want more.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Welcome to this strology section of the podcast.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
So oh wow, glitter, glitter, glitter.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
So do you know your big three?
Speaker 6 (41:52):
Yes, I'm a Libra. That's my son, and then my
moon is Gemini, and then my rising is Taurus.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
I don't know a lot.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
About Torres, double air Earth. That's why.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Okay, that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 5 (42:07):
I feel like that's probably explains why you're so much
fun and you have this like light energy with having
two signs that are airy, and then I feel like
with the Taurus in there, you have your ship together,
and that's why you probably are like I need to
go home from the club and sew my out there.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
Right. The Taurus is like it, you know, because our
rising sign is like how we proceed, yes, yeah, and
how we show up like first impression. So you know,
you could seem really like stable.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
And get together together.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
But I feel like your Gemini Moon's crazy girl. I
feel like I saw a little bit of yeah, oh yeah,
that was best friend.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
But then your Libra, you know, and libras are so
like they're like the Venetian like beautiful sign of the zodiac.
And I feel like it kind of balanced out both
of them to where you're like, yes, you can still
be stable and you can be chaotic, but like let's
be beautiful about it.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (43:06):
And that's the thing, right, I've been ugly many times.
I know how to be ugly, and it's like.
Speaker 5 (43:11):
Libras think that they're ugly, but they're usually the prettiest
one in the room, is what I always. Neighbors have
like a natural beauty to them always. And the thing
that I love about libras though, is that I always
say that you guys are all secretly antisocial. Always, yes, party,
but I always want to be like, heres calm down
when they can go home. Yeah, And they're always like
I just want to go home, girl, But they're so
(43:32):
nice when you like meet them at parties and stuff.
My favorite thing I think about libras is that I
would say is that you invite through your own liberation,
though you always invite others to be part of that
liberation too. Yeah, And I think that that's something I
see in all my Libra friends, where we're like, oh, I.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Can do that, yeah to you.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
And in order to do that, you have to be
able to be free yourself right.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
And that Gemini moon too, I feel it gives you
a little.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Bit of that home though home.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
It gives And that concludes these strategy.
Speaker 5 (44:03):
I've been calling it zodiac for all four seasons, and
you always say astrology and we always okay, well, well Maya,
how do you plead on this episode?
Speaker 3 (44:15):
Oh my gosh, I'm just so excited that you're here.
I feel like I manifested this honestly, Like if I
knew that one day that this is going to happen,
I'd be like, amaz, it's crazy.
Speaker 5 (44:25):
And I'm just so happy that you hear, like truly,
just I'm like, why don't we hang out more and more?
We say that every time I need to come over,
I need to come over on your couch and just
watch and like bring snacks and stuff. Actually I used
to sew before, so maybe I'll just get on a
needle and thread or let's.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
Do it and I'll be like, good job jumpsuits.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
And then we'll wear them to the next one.
Speaker 5 (44:45):
My god, thank you so much, my love for joining
us today. Where can people find you? Where can they
follow you and support you?
Speaker 6 (44:51):
And you can find me on Instagram at s TDS
that's E S T I T T I S S T.
And I have a YouTube channel, I have music. I'm
working on new me right now, I'm working, I have
some I'll have a lot of scripts right now. I'm
in my Hollywood back at the moment I was like
if she was the South Central girl on season fifteen,
Like today, baby, we moved to Hollywood and we're working.
So I'm like in my like TV film era back
(45:13):
once again so much.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
Where people find you on.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
Social media, you could find me Maya in the Moment
at m a Ya in the moment, anywhere you scroll
what about you?
Speaker 5 (45:22):
You can find me at the Curly v Show, s
theories on Instagram and TikTok and me too.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
I'm going to take her names. Thank you so much
for watching another episode the super Secred Bestie Club Podcast.
Hit us up in our social media to let us
know what you want to hear another put episode, Bye.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
Yeah and look at those things jiggle.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
I just saw them have a mind of their own.
Speaker 4 (45:54):
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episodes every single week. Super Secret Bestie Club Podcast is
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Speaker 5 (46:06):
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Speaker 2 (46:11):
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