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December 3, 2025 • 35 mins

In this episode, we sit down with singer-songwriter Jen Awad, known for her electrifying blend of soul, punk, and retro glamour. Jen opens up about the emotional highs and lows that come with living a creative life—from moments of pure artistic clarity to the self-doubt, vulnerability, and pressure that often happen behind the scenes.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I think the older I get, the more trained I
get like quicker, so like I have to be very
careful about who I spend my time with, how I
spend my time.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
There was a smart moment Star to God.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
It was about amazing.

Speaker 4 (00:15):
You know.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
I keep joking about how I want to do like
a memoriam of like all the Friends Lost, like with
Starmachlachlan in the background, and like all like I'm.

Speaker 5 (00:23):
Like the friends you stopped talking.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
To absolutely angels this person.

Speaker 5 (00:28):
This is what Curly does.

Speaker 6 (00:29):
Whenever I like mentioned someone who's attractive, I look slowly
and he really this.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
You're gonna get anyp You might even get a record.

Speaker 5 (00:38):
My name is Curly and I'm Maya.

Speaker 7 (00:40):
The Super Secret Bestie Called Podcast Season four is here
and we're locked in.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
That means more juicy cheese man, terrible love advice.

Speaker 6 (00:48):
Evil spells to cast on your ex.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
We're not doing that this season.

Speaker 6 (00:53):
Oh well, this season we're leveling up.

Speaker 8 (00:55):
Each episode will feature a special bestie and you're not
gonna want to miss it.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
So what do you wait? Get in here?

Speaker 6 (01:04):
Welcome another episode of the Super Secret Bestie Club Podcast.

Speaker 5 (01:09):
We're in a different.

Speaker 8 (01:10):
Location of yes, and we have a very special guest
of this today, the very amazing, super amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Jena wa.

Speaker 5 (01:18):
Good to be here.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
I'm so excited to.

Speaker 8 (01:22):
Finally have you on. Jenna and I actually go like
light years way back. I'm trying to find this little
this little bio and what are you doing? We're finding
a buy okay, Jenna Wad. For those who.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Who may not be may or may not be familiar, Jena.

Speaker 8 (01:36):
Wad doesn't just sing. She blazes through every track with
soul and untamed energy. She's from La La Grow Out
the Valley, to be more precise, Peruvian and Egyptian. She
mashes together soul, rock and punk with her music and
has often been compared to Amy Whitehouse both virgos. Her
debut album ex ex Exit.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
How did you get existential?

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Dates? Why do I have a hard time saying.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
That word exists?

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Existential?

Speaker 8 (02:04):
Existential is a fever dream of heartbreak, defiance, and late
night epiphanies, delivered with vocals that belts and they burned
right through you. Jen's voice doesn't just ask for attention,
it demands it. And something that I've always told Jen
throughout our decades at this point of friendship is like
your voice is undeniable, and there's no like, the minute

(02:27):
you walk on stage, there's nothing anybody can ever say.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
One of the quick things that I used to say to.

Speaker 8 (02:31):
Jen when we were kids was like, people can say
whatever the fuck they want about you, but once you
get on that stage, nobody can ever take away the
fact that you can fucking sing. And whether she's ripping
through a punk and fused banger or slowing it down
with the smoky soul ballad, Genawa makes music, but more importantly,
her voice is impossible to ignore and worth the listen.

Speaker 6 (02:52):
You just got this like beautiful like strength about you.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Yeah, yeah, Jen.

Speaker 8 (02:59):
When we were seventeen years old, we have oh we
have a really we have really cool lore because you
just my best friend Justin's we were we were eight
years old, dated this guy who also dated Jen, And
when when Justine's guy broke up, he dated Jen and I.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
We were hearing about the new.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
Girlfriend, like, yes, I was a new girlfriend.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
You were a new girlfriend because he was in a
band and.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
I was back then too.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah oh yeah, yeah, I mean yes, I'm consistent.

Speaker 8 (03:29):
But this girl, you know, we heard these rumors about
this girl like oh yeah, Jan blah blah blah. She's
she has her own band and when you're young, I would.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Be so the coolest fucking big we were.

Speaker 8 (03:40):
And then we went to fit them and we hadn't
met yet, but we're in this like alley.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
It was like a celebrated alley.

Speaker 8 (03:48):
There's benches and you can sit in it, but essentially
a celebrated like what is it like breezeway and this
one's very section.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yeah, the smoker section. Yeah, I don't know, but I
never forget.

Speaker 8 (03:58):
She was wearing like Louis Vuitton sunglasses with the little
gem in the middle were the sunglassdy sunglasses. She's smoking
a cigarette, she's wearing head to toe designer and she's like,
my name is Jenna Wat and I'm.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
Like, you're so love I loved her gag.

Speaker 8 (04:18):
I was like, oh my god, she's amazing and she sings,
she's whatever. And then we became super tight, like almost immediately,
like hang out at your house in the valley going
crazy adventures, you know, yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Saw that GoPro somewhere. What did we use? What did
we use? And what was that cadream?

Speaker 1 (04:35):
My PT Cruiser, Gladys mobile Gladys And then we would
film us just like saying.

Speaker 8 (04:41):
Yeah, yeah, we have like a little thing in the
beginning where we say, like how's your spirit?

Speaker 3 (04:44):
So like we just asked you.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Like how.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
My spirit pretty chill right now, to be honest, or
you were just in like crazy traffic relaxed right now.
I don't know if it's if it's just your company
or feel right or.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
The drugs we put in your mug, you know, did you?

Speaker 1 (05:05):
I would never wish to imagine we have to be
done by the time it kicks in.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
I'm good.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
I think I've just been so busy and then like
this week is supposed to be like my calm week.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, I'm feeling that.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah, I've been working on a lot of stuff.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yeah, what do you I mean? I mean, how's how's
your spirit?

Speaker 6 (05:24):
It's a lot of chaotic good. I got a puppy recently.
He's a frenchiean a pug, a frug.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (05:33):
His name is Nacho after Nacho Ray, not Nachos.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
He's so cute what is called a.

Speaker 6 (05:38):
Frug aug frenchy and a pug.

Speaker 5 (05:41):
And he's a baby. He's four months old.

Speaker 6 (05:44):
So it's been very uh interesting trying to like work
around you know him, and he bitest so cute. He's
like how to sit, he knows how to lay down.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
How's your sleep?

Speaker 5 (05:59):
It's good?

Speaker 3 (06:00):
I love it, Oh my god.

Speaker 8 (06:01):
I love it because back in the day we used
to talk every morning at like seven or eight am.
And then, you know, after the pandemic and all that stuff,
like she sleeps in later and I still and I'm
up at like seven and I'm like, oh man, and
now she'll text me at seven. I'm like she's back,
ladies and gentlemen. I'm like, this baby's got her up

(06:23):
in the morning.

Speaker 9 (06:24):
I love it. It's yeah.

Speaker 6 (06:30):
And I'm like, I want to go to sleep so
I can sleep, you know. So I my sleep schedule
has been really good. You know, I'm there.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
No, I'm not. I'm insomniac forever.

Speaker 6 (06:41):
I mean yeah, like this puppy just I think when
he gets older, I'll be able to like maybe.

Speaker 5 (06:47):
Go back into my old routine.

Speaker 6 (06:49):
But it's been really good.

Speaker 5 (06:50):
It's been like there is.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
No older routine.

Speaker 8 (06:52):
He looks like a sceno to be honest, He's perfectly
like you could draw him.

Speaker 5 (06:56):
He's like giant, it's like.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
A corop and like Ba's mariinality be and just like.

Speaker 6 (07:05):
On the screen later but yeah, he's like.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
I want a dog.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
A dog?

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Oh last sweet.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
That was in the middle of like a video shoot
and I couldn't call the lady back and she's like,
we moved on.

Speaker 6 (07:17):
I was like, honestly, God, it just has to come
to you, you know, like this puppy totally came to me,
like I manifested.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, read a friend of a friend who I'm like
almost there.

Speaker 5 (07:29):
Yeah, it just happens.

Speaker 6 (07:31):
And then you're you're like, okay, cool, Like this is it, Curly,
how's your spirit?

Speaker 3 (07:35):
My scirit is good? I was just reading with our
little theme of today's episode. What is the thing?

Speaker 8 (07:41):
It's the roller coaster being a creative, which it kind
of like we got a little bit of a roller
coaster today already.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
It's like emotional of all this stuff. My spirit's good.

Speaker 8 (07:49):
I was like feeling a little like in my feels
earlier this week, I was selling my I was saying
my that my parents like brought I don't have a
lot of my stuff at their house, but they I
leave my camping there, like my sleeping bag and like
my like camp.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Yeah, I'm a camper. Curly.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Now, I like.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
The comforter camp. I love it.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
I go with and that's not really a camp. It's
not there's camp in it.

Speaker 8 (08:22):
But I want to like get into that network of people.
I want to date Tyler or like a gay.

Speaker 6 (08:29):
Okay, can we tell our Tyler story.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
When he supposedly Okay.

Speaker 6 (08:34):
Picture this. Curly and I were going to a coffee
shop that was down the street from BuzzFeed when we
worked there, and there was Tyler the creator standing outside
of this coffee shop and I go, Curly, I go
the creators for you.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
Know, I don't really recognize faces.

Speaker 5 (08:53):
You know what Curly does. This is what Curly does.

Speaker 6 (08:55):
Whenever I mentioned somebody's attractive, I look slowly and he
was like this.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Guy.

Speaker 6 (09:06):
They lock eyes and Tyler was like, he checked you out,
and I was like, yes, but.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
What was I wearing? Because maybe he just like you
had a giant hat. I had a giant hat. Giant
giant wasn't I wearing? My giant was a giant I
can't see this, so I can't really tell you. He
was checking mirror the hat out, like.

Speaker 5 (09:22):
You know, he was checking you out a moment.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Tyler the Creator's gonna be right here. I literally please,
I want it's already done.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
I m him and I was like hanging. I don't
know if it was just near my hat.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
But this matter be a clip.

Speaker 5 (09:35):
Social team put this as a clip.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
Literally like I'm gonna have to go back to my
Tyler got.

Speaker 6 (09:42):
Overheard l A and just nobody, I swear to I
saw like A.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
There was a spark moment.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
It was about it would be amazing.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
It was absolutely you're right, Oh my god.

Speaker 6 (10:02):
Lane, and.

Speaker 8 (10:05):
Also appropriate no, but I also, oh my god, I
was going to tell you about the should I got
confused because you said started singing Selena in my brain, which.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
I actually missed that. So thanks for this Selena thing. Yeah,
I spaced out. I don't know where I went.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
We were talking about not as being severely ADHD.

Speaker 8 (10:25):
Yeah it works, we have it, like really, I think
in different levels.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
I think I know that.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
I was like, back to your spirit, but I was like, honestly, like.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
We've moved on right in the wave, h but we
wanted to Oh yeah.

Speaker 8 (10:53):
Basically, my parents brought my camping gear back to my
house and I was very offended by it. I was like,
do you not want me my sister anywhere do I
offend you? And I literally my sister called me like
what's wrong with you? And I was like crying on
the phone. I was like if my mom never texted me.
She only calls me to ask me about the Netflix password.
And I'm just like and I'm like, I need what
we call baby?

Speaker 6 (11:13):
Yeah, you need to be baby, like did you have water?

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Did you eat right?

Speaker 6 (11:19):
You know?

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Like I call my mom now and that's.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
It, but you and have a really good bone.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
I don't call her.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
It'll be like three days and she'll be like, are
you okay? Because I have to call her at least
two to three times.

Speaker 6 (11:37):
A day and my mom does not call me back
within thirty minutes.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
With my mom, I want that with my mom, like,
but sometimes she doesn't, like she doesn't want all that.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Do you all have that with your mom? Do you
call her every day?

Speaker 2 (11:52):
What does she call you? Like that? Because she doesn't
reciprocate this text.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
See, but my mom doesn't like do anything at all
at all.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
She tourists. Literally, Yeah, they're both like she sends me.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
Two slices of Choco flying and I'm supposed to be
happy about it. They were really good they were really good.
How there's like.

Speaker 8 (12:11):
Emotional support choco fly and I'm supposed to be happy
about it, but I literally my sister called me. She's like,
what's wrong with you? Like they just returned your sleeping bag.
It's at the end of the world. And I was
just crying.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
But also like, you've got a whole house, you know what.

Speaker 6 (12:26):
You're telling you that. I'm like, oh, you do have
a new, brand new house. Yeah, But it's the sentimental
you know, like for example, when I, okay, go back
home to Arizona. My brother is moving back into my parents'
house and they're like, can you come get your stuff?
I'm like, what's my stuff? The multiple boxes of Jonahs

(12:48):
Brothers posters that staying there, historical relics. I'm not bringing
it home because like what if it gets in transit?

Speaker 3 (12:58):
You know?

Speaker 8 (12:58):
Yeah, what did you say when I told you? You
were like it's like you said, like what am I Like?

Speaker 3 (13:04):
What did you say?

Speaker 6 (13:05):
No?

Speaker 3 (13:06):
You were like, what am I like? An orphan? Now?

Speaker 8 (13:09):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (13:09):
I'm like, so I'm ran now.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
Because of a sleeping bag in the blanket.

Speaker 6 (13:17):
But it was posters, keep those there.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
I love that.

Speaker 8 (13:21):
But I did have a really good conversation with my
thea yesterday and my and my mom are very similar
and they she was like, it's not just your mom,
like our mother raised us like that.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
And it was just really like nice to have this
moment of being like, oh, I.

Speaker 8 (13:34):
Need to give this woman a little bit of grace
from like different times, and you.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Know, sometimes we have to be the ones to give
them the warmth, Like the warmth isn't going to be reciprocated,
Like you have to kind of love them.

Speaker 5 (13:47):
Like teach them a little bit.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Yeah, you said that, you've taught me that before. You
teach them a little bit.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
But I'm just so like sometimes I'm just like, why
are you like this? And I'm like, you know what, actually,
just get over here.

Speaker 5 (13:58):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
I'm like, don't pat me, rub me just like.

Speaker 6 (14:05):
You, because honestly, I am you and you are me.

Speaker 8 (14:10):
Yeah, She'll be like, no, I'm mean I like a
little too much ketamine.

Speaker 6 (14:16):
And I was like, and these are the conversations we
have as creatives. Absolutely going back to the topic the
emotional roll cooster of being creative, mostly, I want to
kind of talk about like having friends who are creatives

(14:37):
and being a person who is a creative and just
our different lives right now as creatives, like we have
so much going on, there's a lot of chaos, but
yet we still will find the time to connect with
each other and give each other don't and give each
other grace to know that Like, Okay, I'm not taking
it personal if you don't call me back.

Speaker 8 (14:58):
Yeah, I literally like every but he goes because you
do a lot, like you are singing until you design stuff,
you throw events. Now you're like doing all these crazy
things and I'm like, and then you have to make
appearances because you're a rockstar socialite, so up.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
But you know, I give myself an a lotment of
time to do that now because it's just really draining.
I think the older I get, the more drained I get,
like quicker, So like I have to be very careful
about who I spend my time with, how I spend
my time, how long I show up for, who I'm around,
what am I up to?

Speaker 8 (15:29):
Like you know right now, okay, I feel like you've
had such a fun, glamorous life, Like.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
I mean, it's fun and it is glamorous.

Speaker 8 (15:38):
Yeah, why haven't my notes? So like chutaud my mom,
Like you just hang out a shut to my mom,
like you sing and you play on the piano, and
you're like, there's a ghost in the piano, bitch, and
you're like, you know, what have you what have you seen?
Like on the what have like a quick sideboard?

Speaker 3 (15:54):
Like what have you seen? You at the chuttaud my mom?

Speaker 2 (15:56):
What have I seen?

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Yeah? Did he say a glass fell off the piano
or something?

Speaker 2 (16:00):
One night?

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Yeah, one night I was playing before they locked the
piano up because I used to play the piano one
in the.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Morning, two in the morning, when you name it, I
was on it. They started to lock the piano.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Because of me and because of you.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Yes, wow, And so it's fine, It's okay because in
some ways it was kind of a favor because like
everyone be like are you gonna play?

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Are you gonna play? And I would just be like, I.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Just want to like sit and smell, drink, have a kiki.
I don't really feel like doing basic bitch eight times.

Speaker 7 (16:31):
You know.

Speaker 8 (16:31):
So you go to the shot to momont right now
and the piano was locked. It literally is because of you. Yeah,
that's the lore behind the line. Yeah, so then what happened?

Speaker 1 (16:40):
So anyway, so one night before they locked the piano
I was on. I was playing, you know, I was
probably playing Basic Bitch or something, and this girl sits
next to me. She's being very annoying. She's sitting on
the piano bench.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
She's like, oh my god, you're so good. And I
was like, this girl is so annoying.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
She puts her drink on the piano and I just like,
out of nowhere, it just slides off.

Speaker 5 (17:04):
I was like, you can go.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
And I was like, she's like, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
I was like, yeah, it's haunted, piano, ghost cat, It's haunted.
I remember there was there was a time where I
was afraid of that piano, and then once I started
playing it, it was just I don't.

Speaker 5 (17:20):
Know, maybe you absorbed.

Speaker 8 (17:24):
How are you finding the balance between, like, you know,
making these appearances and showing up and having fun and
enjoying life and then also feeding into like your creativity.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
It's really just having a balanced schedule, to be honest,
because it's.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Not it's not.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
When I go out it feels like I've been out
for a whole week, but it's really not that.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
So it's really planned these days. Yeah, you know, but
I also right now, if.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
I go out, I treat it like a celebration of accomplishments.
So like right now, I'm just very focused on So
like if I'm at the studio once a week or
twice a week, or then I'm working on a music
video I'm working on, I'm like I'm alone a lot.
I actually spend a lot of my time alone working
on things, or else I wouldn't be able to get
anything done.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
And then when I do go out, she's out.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
That's it, And it's it's very your stories.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
It's not what you think.

Speaker 8 (18:18):
Does party gen have a name? Mine used to be Bobby.
Do you remember when I used to drink? Do you
remember when I used to drink?

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Do you remember when we used to drink together?

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Oh? Yeah, fun times. Yeah, but my name was.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Actually don't I don't know.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
Yeah, I mean we used.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
To like go to melst like two, like we were cute.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
We were cute. You She always partied like more fancier
than I did.

Speaker 8 (18:45):
Like you would yeah, because like I even though I
was from Hollywood, I would be like, I don't party
in Hollywood, And you'd be like, we're gonna go to
this really cool like underground like bar that's on Hollywood
Boulevard and ye come through and I was like, oh
my god, I don't even know that I'd be able
to get in there.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
And we hosted the party together one time. Yeah, it
was like this really cool.

Speaker 8 (19:03):
Like it was the bar that everybody went to, and
then you would have to go through the alley, go
through the kitchen, and then there was like even more
private bar. It's called like Paul and Andres or something
like that.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Oh my god, you were so stressed about that.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
I was so stressed about that.

Speaker 8 (19:18):
I literally invited everybody that I knew, everybody. It was
so fun, family friends, and then the person at the
door was the.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
Door was like no, no, no, no, no no no,
just down the list. They didn't even let like my
friend Kazu, who was working for Jeremie Scott.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
Yeah, that was a tough ropper and I was and
I was, and.

Speaker 8 (19:41):
We had to turn people away. They turned people like
my family got turned away. And I literally remember being
on the dance floor dancing with the girl who was
like the girl who told us to throw a party there,
and she's like, clearly, don't even worry, We're just dancing
on the danceport and I was like I am dancing.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
At that point, I was just like, I don't know
what to do, Like what did I do?

Speaker 8 (20:00):
We didn't know what to do, Like we were like,
that's like I've gotten kicked out.

Speaker 6 (20:04):
Okay, but what is the reason to not for a
bouncer to not let them into a party?

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Didn't like how they looked?

Speaker 1 (20:11):
It's the looks, the fashion, like solo that was a
tough door.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
And you know, for the record, Jeff is still working.

Speaker 5 (20:18):
You know, Jeff, Jeff.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
Is everywhere the door person.

Speaker 5 (20:22):
Does Jeff sty now?

Speaker 2 (20:23):
But anyway, okay, but also shout out to Jeff.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
Yeh, does he have cool style?

Speaker 2 (20:27):
He is sick of style?

Speaker 3 (20:28):
He looks I'm going to need you to send that
to me.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
You're like to talk like I'm really sorry.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
He's like a sweet person now, he's like.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
The most we have a bone to pick with you,
my cousin.

Speaker 5 (20:44):
Why why?

Speaker 8 (20:45):
But I remember being like, oh, that's why I was
so stressed out because I was just like I invited
all these people to come and basically get turned away
from the door, and then I didn't even leave with them,
which is what I think as an adult I would
have done. I would have been like you know what
happened at your party. I'm leaving with my fucking family.

Speaker 6 (21:02):
You know what would be so fun is to throw
a party and invite all your enemies, but just turn
them away at the door.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
We could do that.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
I would do that, people.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
I haven't had a lot of record it.

Speaker 6 (21:17):
And the real party is we watched the footage, Oh
my god, party.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Should we do that?

Speaker 3 (21:23):
I don't have how many enemies?

Speaker 2 (21:25):
You just have a lot just to see her alone,
you know.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
I keep joking about how I want to do like
a memoriam of like all the friends lost, like with
Star MacLachlan in the background, and like all of like
I'm like the princes.

Speaker 5 (21:37):
You stopped talking to.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Absolutely angel like this person. You just released this person,
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
Sorry. You also just released a new song too, right, Yes,
what's it does? Song called.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
I'm Still on that Fever dream?

Speaker 3 (21:54):
Yeah? About that song? It's pretty good song.

Speaker 5 (21:56):
It's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
I wrote it and it's pretty good. Let me tell you. Actually,
I've been working with this composer.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
His name is Will Bates, and we started working together
in March, and uh, we got well, we started working
together in March. But like one of our songs that
we co wrote together, got on a show that he
was composing and so that was great.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
And then after that point we're like, yoh, he has
a cam. It's such a long story, but I'm trying
to make it short.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
He has basically a compound in a visa with a
recording studio.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
So he was like, I think we should go make
a record and I was like, okay, yeah, sounds good.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
This is what I mean. By the way, this is
her life.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
I met my friend Diana Gomez, like yeah, so that
is my life. Through going out sometimes I do meet
people that kind of become.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Very pivotal to my growth or so it's.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Just kind of depending where I'm at. So anyway, I'm like, okay, cool,
I'll go to a visa with you and your family
in the middle of nowhere and Santa Laria in a
compound and like there's no taxis that can go in or.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Out, like latitude longitude status, like.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
Amazing.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
The best thing I ever did so Fever Dream was
the first song we wrote for Like when I just
got there and it was in the middle of there,
was like it was the ice raids when I had
left LA and I was feeling really just like tense
and tender and sad and just like heartbroken.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
About what was going on. And then like you know, La.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Just got its ass kicked with the fires and everything,
like it just kind of felt like we were on
this decline, you know, and it's still there, but we're
just kind of like ignoring it a little bit because
we're all trying so hard to pursue our dreams and
like make things happen for ourselves, and but it's all
there and it's hard to ignore. And I was like,
I'm gonna write something as soon as I get there

(23:51):
about how I feel about all this, and so Fever
Dream was the first song. And so like, you know,
we spent the whole day, you know, at the beach,
very fun, beautiful whatever, and then we go into this
cabin and there's just like all these like weird like
like oil paintings of like crusades and like priest like blessing,
like you know, the soldiers that are about to go

(24:12):
and die and war from whatever time that was, and
so like I have all this shit around me, and
so like that's why it's like the chorus is like
this armor was meant to be worn, like you know,
in these times, like when we don't really know why
or what our purposes in this life.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
For some reason, we're here in this time and we
have to really use.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Our voices and we have to be really strong, and
we have to keep pushing the things that we want
or what we believe in our dreams or whatever, even
if it feels like everything's collapsing around us.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah, so that's what Fever dreams about.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
So we can expect a whole EP.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
You're gonna get an EP. You might even get a record.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
Amazing.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yeah, so it's been really cool.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
Also, didn't you have a ghost apology from Abisa one time?

Speaker 2 (25:15):
I feel like a lot of cigarettes las night. I
have a lot of it. But that's why I keep
l like, yes, Curly, I did.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
I used to stay at this hotel called Pikes, which
is really a crazy hotel. So it used to be
it was owned by a man named Tony Pikes, which
is also how me and Wilves also bonded about how
we should be working together because he had stories about
that too, and.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
So about the hotel, about the hotel and about Tony Pikes.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Apparently this man saved him at sea with his parents,
but that's a whole other story. So when I used
to stay in the Beez, I would stay at Pikes,
which is in San Antonio, again in the middle of nowhere,
because apparently weird shit happens when you stay in places
in the middle of nowhere there.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
And so that hotel.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Like Freddie Mercury used to stay there, you know, George
Michael used to stay there. Jones used to stay there,
and so Tony Pikes built rooms for everyone that would
stay there. So the Freddie Mercury Suite has actually been
turned into a nightclub.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
Oh the Sweet is a night club.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Yes, you can dance in the bathtub that this managed
to Batson.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
There's a piano there and I always play the piano
at the club like four am, just.

Speaker 5 (26:27):
Like Freddy's like, yeah, that's good.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
So anyway, yes, something did follow me when, but I mean,
how can I prove it?

Speaker 2 (26:39):
I mean, how do I don't know?

Speaker 8 (26:42):
Yeah, I remember we were eating sushi and you were like,
I think his then followed me from a visa and
I was like.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Yeah, I mean spirits follow people.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
Yeah, Like you can't even go to what's it called Sespia,
Like I wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
Go to some.

Speaker 8 (26:58):
Like just for that, like like funeral I mean cemetery stuff.
Back in the day, that's what people did at cemeteries.
They we have a lot of events to.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
Incorporate the spirits.

Speaker 8 (27:08):
Just he loved ones into the events that they were doing,
so they semesteria seems like it's new, but it's.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Actually an old tradition. But also a quick sidebar.

Speaker 8 (27:16):
I have a coworker who sees spirits and he was
telling me, he's like he kind of it kind of
came up because he was talking to another medium about it,
and he's like, I don't want to scare Curly, but
there's this man that follows him, but he like lingers,
so like Curly will walk in and the stock well
them I wish, well, I don't know, and the man

(27:37):
like walks I have a spiritual stock he might be,
but the man like walks in and will and I'll leave,
and the man the kind of like huh, like keeps
looking around and then he'll like slowly leave as well.
But like we're trying to figure out who this man
is to me. But I I fucking love that shit, Like.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
I'm kind of like you do for it, down for it.

Speaker 8 (28:00):
I just feel like these ghosts are just gonna be
like I just feel like, is.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
This ghost is what they're gonna do? This is gonna
be like this gay ship over here? What the hell?
I mean?

Speaker 2 (28:09):
It's fine if you just want to have friends on
the other side, Okay.

Speaker 8 (28:12):
I just I don't think that they would say for popular,
I don't do much work.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
I pray and I jack off a lot.

Speaker 9 (28:20):
There's no well speaking pray love, pray love, stroke, pray
love what.

Speaker 5 (28:28):
Speaking of gay ship.

Speaker 6 (28:29):
Let's go to our astrology section of the podcast.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
So you're Virgo, right a Vigo?

Speaker 3 (28:37):
What are your other top to?

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Oh my god, cancer moon and cancer rising? Oh my god,
I get out of bed.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Do you have a lot of feelings?

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Not right now, but you know, catch me, catch me
in the moonlight? What's your venus?

Speaker 6 (28:57):
Virgo and mercury lee bro.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Okay, mine's in Virgo as well, which makes.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Me very sociable. I think that's the girl that like
goes out to Chattau.

Speaker 8 (29:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I used to love when we were younger,
I'd called Jena rocket because I would be like I
would remember I used to tell you that I felt
like you were a rocket me. You and hire them
because I would be at a party and I would
get tired, and then Hiram would get there. It was
like and then we would take off, and then we
would be like and then we would get tired, and
then it was all this energy and we were like

(29:30):
just buzzing, like early twenty year old being like crazy.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
And I don't like something, I make it.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
I make it work.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Like if I'm like, if I show up somewhere, I'm like,
I don't like that table.

Speaker 5 (29:40):
Who are these people?

Speaker 3 (29:41):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (29:42):
I just like to kind of move things around?

Speaker 3 (29:44):
But you are really fun.

Speaker 8 (29:46):
You're so much fun at night, like laughs, big laughs. Music,
and then inevitably she's on the piano.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Give me compliments, am easy?

Speaker 8 (29:52):
Yeah, and you'll get a lot with this giant chanel
bag you have in front of you.

Speaker 6 (29:56):
What's now sign?

Speaker 2 (29:59):
What's Nelson?

Speaker 6 (30:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (30:01):
Where would you give her? What sign of? She? She's
giving Scorpio to me.

Speaker 6 (30:07):
I think Libra maybe, No, she's too shadowy.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
I don't think so, what's not insult the bag? Then Capricorn?

Speaker 4 (30:16):
Maybe?

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Oh, Capricorn. I could see that.

Speaker 4 (30:18):
I could see that.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
You were to me like you're very Virgo.

Speaker 8 (30:25):
In the sense of like how you like your work
in terms of the projects that come out, and you're
on top of all your projects, like the music. And
then we met because Jen and I were designing clothing
for a very long time too, So your collection is
coming out like all those different things.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
I know. Do you miss designing?

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Yeah a lot? Actually yeah, do you miss it?

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Yeah, some parts creativity execution, but the business aspect absolutely not.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
Yeah. I think I'll come back to it someday me too. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (30:58):
It's a very virgo conversation placed in between two virgos.
Sorry what I'm misdesigning?

Speaker 5 (31:10):
I actually are we doing?

Speaker 3 (31:12):
Oh my god?

Speaker 6 (31:16):
So I feel like I flopped at your say, like
at Gen's lineup for one of her concerts.

Speaker 5 (31:24):
I think it was you didn't say it to you.

Speaker 6 (31:26):
Yeah, I saw the thing that and I just did
another show recently where my voice is very quiet and
I just get drowned out by the band, and I know,
but I was so honored that.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
You looked so beautiful and you sounded so beautiful. Thank you,
and it was so fun.

Speaker 6 (31:49):
I was so like just honored to be a part
of that because you were such a powerhouse in your
voice and everything.

Speaker 5 (31:58):
When was it.

Speaker 6 (32:00):
Three?

Speaker 5 (32:02):
Yeah, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Well you're fun, Virgo, You're amazing and I love you forever.

Speaker 6 (32:10):
Thank you. And that concludes the astrology portion.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
What projects you have coming up? Like where can people
find you? Oh?

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Well, I'm releasing a song next month with Will Bates.
We're doing a collaboration project, and so the next song
is called Afterlife. Really emotional. It's like Prince meets Lana
del Rey. Oh I can't was like, I think, like
I feel like I'm finally returning to like my Christian

(32:38):
school roots, which is really funny, is it?

Speaker 2 (32:43):
I never wanted to go back there.

Speaker 9 (32:44):
Huh?

Speaker 8 (32:44):
Is it like a ballad or it's a ballads suck
for your ballad?

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Yeah, I'm really excited about that. So that's going to
drop December nineteenth, and yeah.

Speaker 8 (32:55):
Just and people can stream it? Can they pre save
it on Spotify?

Speaker 3 (32:58):
Right now?

Speaker 4 (32:59):
They can?

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Okay? What should they go and look for? Jenna?

Speaker 5 (33:03):
Wad do people find you?

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (33:07):
J e n Sorry, I'm not in plug mode right now.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
I'm like, whoa, all right here?

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Yeah? So Jenna on Instagram, Spotify.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
I don't know if much of a TikTok early, but
you can find.

Speaker 8 (33:20):
Me there, okay, and then we can pre save the
new album, both of the new ones, well, the whole Fever.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Dreams out so you can find that right now. Watch
that video. Just dropped a music video. Sorry, yeah yeah yeah.
And then after Life is December nineteenth.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Wow. Here first we look forward to the afterlife with.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Watch stream all of it. I appreciate it, Thank you
so much. Would appreciate cly. How can could you imagine
us in the afterlife?

Speaker 5 (33:49):
I can?

Speaker 2 (33:50):
I for sure like that might be. The music video
concept is like what does the afterlife look like?

Speaker 3 (33:56):
To me? Oh? What does it look?

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Well, it's kind of like I watched you pos music
video recently, Like I'm at at Chip and like they're
like all in heaven and it's like just like a
smog machine but like and it's like white pianos and
like harps and they all have angelings, but they're also
like kind of having a party.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
It was kind of cool, so I was like, wow,
that's kind of a vibe.

Speaker 6 (34:19):
I think mine would be in the Chili's Triple Dippers
for everyone baby back.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
I think would be kind of weird. It's so obvious,
But my Grandma's apartment. I think i'd wake up here
we are because I'm.

Speaker 6 (34:35):
Dream Oh, you can find me at my moment m
A y A in the moment anywhere you scroll what
about you.

Speaker 8 (34:44):
You can find me at the Curly b Show on
Instagram and TikTok and even YouTube, which I kind of
use something.

Speaker 6 (34:50):
Curly is on a PBS show, right, it pops up, Yes,
it pops up all the time. My brother's always like,
oh my god, Curly so good.

Speaker 5 (35:00):
It's so good.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
Yes, yeah, check it out.

Speaker 8 (35:02):
It's called crash Course and PBS and it's amazing.

Speaker 6 (35:07):
And every time I see like the video pop up,
it has like forty thousand views.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
I know.

Speaker 8 (35:11):
It's yeah, like Crash Courses with the Green Brothers and
they just like killing it.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Yay, Crash Course, Yay.

Speaker 6 (35:18):
Thank you so much for listening to another episode of
The Super Secret Bestie Club Podcast.

Speaker 5 (35:22):
Bye, thank you Jay.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
It's really nice to see you guys.

Speaker 7 (35:33):
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