October 1, 2025 • 49 mins
This week, Curly and Maya welcome the incomparable Brandon Kyle Goodman—writer, actor, and voice behind Big Mouth and Human Resources. Together, they dive into the art of being unapologetically messy, what it means to embrace your most iconic self, and why imperfection can be its own superpower. Expect plenty of laughter, a few chaotic confessions, and a reminder that owning your truth—flaws and all—might just be the most iconic move of all.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We're all messes. I think to act like you're not
a mess is false. We're humans. We've never been here before.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Yeah, you should have kiss who you want to kiss.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
You should dance where you want to dance, eat what
you want to eat, lick a booty hole and put
those groove on.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Yeah, we all have examples of what monography looks like.
We've watching it since we were little, like all of
our Mickey and Minnair together, right, Donald and Daisy, Like,
we know what that looks like. But polyamory, we don't
have a lot of you know, uh, representation of that
Mary for lever of money. Okay, controversial because I have thoughts.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
My name is Curly and I'm Maya.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
The super Secret Bestie called Podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Season four is here and we're locked in. That means
more juicy cheese man, terrible love advice.
Speaker 6 (00:45):
Evil spells to cast on your ex.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah we're not doing that this season.
Speaker 6 (00:50):
Oh well, this season we're leveling up.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Each episode will feature a special bestie and you're not
gonna want to miss it.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
So what are you waiting for?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Get in here?
Speaker 6 (01:02):
Oh my gosh, the treehouse has been dando line?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Is that period blood on the walls.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
No, it's just Jelly. I'm a Jolson face street.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
You're Brandon? How good?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Ben?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Get in here?
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Was actually did that?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
It's Curly's birthday today today?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Have we run away together? Finally? Yes, that's why I
was saying yes married.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Yes. I don't know that I can do this interview.
And I don't know if I'm blushing on my face
because I just was. But that's I can't make contact
with you.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
I've never seen this blustered.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I can't welcome Okay, I'm not going to advise you
this whole interview.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
With this welcome, Welcome.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
To the show, another episode of The Secret Bestie Club,
and welcome to Archery House, our clubhouse. Thank you for
the Where are they?
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Did you?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I hate them? Girl?
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Do you just need to use our kitchen?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Okay, yeah that's fine. We rented out like on peers face.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, that's really lovely. You got to make your point somehow.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Yeah, you know extra right right? Oh my gosh, thanks
for being here.
Speaker 7 (02:18):
Curly is Sody? You know, like Curly and birthdays are
every single year. I have to be like, hey, what
do you know, pressure, what do you.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Want to do?
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Because He's like, yeah, I get very you know what
it is, it's like and it's very spiritual. But I
feel like all year long, I like love on my people,
and it's the one day where people are like, we're
gonna love on you. And it makes me so like, like.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I'm so overwhelmed with the love.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I just it makes me like really emotional and all
I want to do is I cry because I just
and hide because I just am so overwhelmed by all
the love. And so I don't know, it's almost just
like if you were to imagine being sent into the
Godhead and you're just surrounded by all this light and love,
you would just explode.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
You would just explode into a bunch of little bubbles.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yeah, And so is it the love or is it
the pressure to do things?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
It's the love. It's the love. Like the pressure to
do I'm not gonna do anything I don't want to
do like that. I'm just like I'm going to take
a nap.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
It's like the love of people sending me these beautiful
messages or just like just.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Being so kind to me. And I think it's kind of.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Just like and I immediately am like, let's talk about you, Like,
how are you doing my birthday.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
I'm like all those who didn't wish.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
How are you on your birthday?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
It's very much all about me, but like I handle
it like I don't need anything from other people. It's
a rest of reflection day.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I used to like do the whole party stuff, and
now I'm like, I'll do a dinner maybe, But even that,
I love to cancel. I like to just be in
my home order what I want. Like it's just let
me do what I want to.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Do, and so it's usually just you order in and
you just.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
That's what I do love about y'all, that y'all to
My mom's a tourist, my sister's a tous Yeah, surrounded
by y'all. I do love that aspect. And it's also
kind of like with toys. Is I like being able
to go, but do you want to go get Ty
and ice Cream filmwhere together? And you'll be like, yeah,
I'm yeah, let's go do that. Yeah, not as like wild,
but there's a chill, but it does feel like I
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just get really overwhelmed.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
That is what it is. So I just forgot. I'm
also a double scorpio, so that's probably scorpios.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
What do you what are you gonna do for your
birth today?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Nothing?
Speaker 1 (04:41):
That's what I was like.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
I was like, what do you want to do?
Speaker 6 (04:43):
Do you want someone to plan something for you?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Which is so kind?
Speaker 6 (04:48):
And I'm like, do you just want to like go
ghost and not be bothered this weekend at all?
Speaker 4 (04:53):
And he's like, yes, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Also am working tomorrow still too.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I'm shooting like a short scene in a film, so
I'm like, I just need to memorize my lines and
then after tomorrow, I just kind of want to eat
sushi and like master rates six times.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I think I'm just gonna do it what you do
every day? Yea true seven times, but you're always do
you want to do the bio?
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Like just a bio?
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, there's my goodness? Oh would you get this.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Bio from robotics?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
You can totally disagree with us and be like fucked up? Okay.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Brandon Cale Goodman and then they put in parentheses. Stay
Them is an actor, writer, actor, writer, and active. Is
best known as the writer and the voice of Walter
on Netflix's Big Mouth and Human Resources.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Is this accurate?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
That's accurate?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Wonderful.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
They're also author of the you Gotta Be You this
is how you said it in your head.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
How do you say that you gotta be.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
How you say exactly?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
You gotta be here, you gotta be better exactly. Hosts
of the tell Me Something Messy Yeah podcast, which I
have yet to be invited on, and the creator of
the viral i G series Messy Monday with humor, heart
(06:22):
and honesty. Brandon champions authentic representation and conversations about race,
gender and identity.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Relationship, sex and identity.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Okay, we'll blame the robot. You would say what again?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Relationship, sex and identity, relationships, sex and identity.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
It would include race, gender, sexual orientation.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Yeah, I mean that's we can kind of start there.
I think Messy Mondays is kind of like I loved
when I first. I feel like I remember when you
were first were starting to do it on your insost stories,
and I remember seeing that a lot of people would
ask you a lot of questions and say things and
you very openly. You were just talking to them, like openly,
as if you were just kind of like the cousin
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that comes over and is like.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah, yeah, and how.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Did that even? How did that even start? Did you
just wake up one day and you're like, let me
just and I'm not by the way, for those of
you listening, I'm not talking about.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Like how do I should I do birth control or not?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
These were like how do I gag on this fat
ass d in my mouth? Like and you would be like, well,
first of all, let me just turn this way. Here's
a banana. I think you brought out a banana at
one point. I feel like I or maybe when I
asked you you were telling me about this banana.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Maybe I know I showed how to eat ask using
a wine glass because because you can because you can
see through it. But the dick I might have used,
probably used like a pen or something like a sharpie.
It's probably what I use.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Okay, because I feel you used something.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah, I like, I like a visual.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Can we start there? Oh? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Do you want me to show sorry where we.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Started to start with the wine glass?
Speaker 1 (08:00):
The wine glass? O? Yeah, So the wine glass was
about how to eat ass which t T S S
taste speed suction?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
So say you that one more time? Distracted me?
Speaker 1 (08:09):
It was like what t T S S tease tastes
speed section your advanced Okay, you got to tease the
whole right, so you play with the whole. I'm not
on it. It's like a door. I want to open it.
And then you gotta taste it, okay, which is a
which is a flat tongue like you're looking ice cream.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
And then uh speed so you can play with the temple,
which I always say, like, have a little song on
the same who wants the same stroke?
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Love?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
And then section it's a little advance if you want
to like the whole, it's a little a little and
that's going to be a person dependent and that's like
your advance.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Okay, because there's somebody who like I don't I literally
feel like my butay h are we talking about?
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, like what happened? I had to look down at myself.
I was like, what's going on there? Okay, We're still
good because like I okay, butt play for me, for example,
like I don't feel anything, Like I'm kind of not
present in butt play.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
You don't feel anything.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I'm just kind of just there.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Like sometimes I feel like it's more for the person
that is doing.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
It, and this is for everything. This is eating ass.
Something in your butt eating.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
As is different and something in my butt. I feel
like I'm more like something in my butt. I don't
like objects, and I've always been very big on like
I don't want you want toys.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I don't like toys in there, but like a dick,
A dick is fine, maybe finger's okay, fine, toys No,
I mean have you had toys? And I'm sure have you?
I don't know if ice, but like I have a hemorrhoid.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yeah, so it was like.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Population toys make me feel like plugged up, like there's
something in my butt. What kind of toys I've tried,
like beads, I've tried, like vibrators, I've tried plug I
feel like congested.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah, well it just like a shred of dildo.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, I feel congested. I just feel like I'm like
there's something in.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
There's just like leaving it in there?
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Are you like playing there's movement?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
By the way, this is what messy Mondays are, Like
you go into the instory.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
I mean I love it, like the the title of
this episode is the importance Oh.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yah yeah yeah yeah yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
That is important. This is sportant.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
But for you, like you know, how did you get
started with messy Mondays? And like starting like I guess
because it's like makes people feel more comfortable too.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Yeah, that you're just talking about it.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Well, in twenty twenty, I was talking about race and
alleyship and intersectionality, but I was also writing on big Mouth,
and I really missed telling dick jokes. And around August
of twenty twenty there's allyship fatigue and that was very annoying.
So around I think November December, I just like got
on my Instagram stories that tell me something good, it
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tell me something messy kind of no intention, no whatever,
but everyone was forny because they were at home. So
all the questions were about sex, and I'm work on
a show like that is about sex and puberty and
all that stuff. So it was really easy to just
like answer the questions without like oh my god. Like
it was kind of like, oh yeah, cool, yeah I've
had that's had that experience, or I'm curious about that,
(11:20):
or I don't know about that, but I'll find the answer.
And so I just started like responding to the questions
without any kind of judgment or shame. Yeah, and that
gained me the name messy Mom.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
But in this same way, by the way, like not yeah,
there was no like you just weren't afraid of the detail,
which I think is And I remember they called you
messy mom.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah, that was like the nickname that I got after
a while.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Wow. Have you ever like off the top of you
had had questions that were just like too much for
you that.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
You're like, oh sure, yeah, I'm well, I like I
see the questions ahead of time, and so I pick
which ones I answer because some of them are like,
this is not an appropriate question for me to answer,
or it's just like I do believe there's a difference
between me and sloppy.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
What is it.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Well, sloppy is like if you want to brag about
like an affair or something like that. And so when
we start to like enter into territory where like our
morals are a little shaky, that's where I'm like, that's
not my that's on my bag. But MESSI is to me,
messy is human, so like anyone has to touch your
human experience, whether that is sex, relationships, identity, like that
is being a human. So that's messy. And so I
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welcome all of those questions or debates or ideas.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
That's very interesting because I feel like that's actually going
to come up later where we want to ask you
if it's.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Like messy or icon yeah, chonic. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
And that's one of the things too, where I feel
like you do hear about people having affairs and you're like,
it's for me. It's interesting because I feel like the
alien from Lelo and Stitch that is here to research mosquitos. Yeah,
my mosquitos are the human Yeah. And I feel like
I hear so many stories where I'm like, we had
an affair and now we're married and we've been together
for thirty five years and now we have kids, and
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I'm like.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
What would have happened if y'all never had that affair?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
So I really like, so to me, I'm kind of
just like, oh, what is the line? But for me
like messy and sloppy, Like I feel like I don't
know that I would know the.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Well the affair. By the way, I want to say,
the fear isn't sloppy because affairs happened, so that's human.
But it's if you're if you are writing to me
to brag about the affair, that's when I say it
gets like me.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Like, oh I slept with my boss.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah, I slept with this person, but my friends but
it's like, Okay, well, you're just telling me something that
you did that you probably shouldn't have done. Whereas if
you're asking me a questions like I had an affair,
I'm not sure if I should tell my partner or
like I'm feeling that's different. Like I did an episode
on the podcast about cheating. I'm happy to people cheat,
so like that's part of the human experience, but like
if we are cheating and then you know, being you know,
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toxic about it, then that's like that's not mine. That's not.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
To say another.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
My brains like say it okay, okay, should we go
into messy or iconic? You had your this say is
Curly shares about being a drunk slash cokeid miss Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Because we were talking about like I so basically why
we wanted to talk about it too is like I
think that being messy. One of the things that I
tell younger people is and always like, be messy. Yeah,
shoot your shot, be messy. You're supposed to do that
in your twenties. You're supposed to. So I went sober
when I was twenty seven twenty eight because I was like,
it's no longer cute to be messy. There's something about
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me saying, like a twenty one year old who is
like too drunk, Let's say it's my little cousin. They're
too drunk. They're messy. Their fucking hair is crazy. There's
gum in their hair, their boobs out or whatever it is.
And I'm like, baby, and they wake up and they're like,
I'm so embarrassed, and I'm like, babes.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
You gotta live, like you gotta You're fine, You're chilling
to me.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
It's different when you're now in your thirties and your
mid thirties and you're got gum in your hair.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Again, your titties out, your Gucci, your cohunus. Because now
I'm like, girl, it's kind of not as all together. Yeah,
it's kind of like time for that.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
So like one of the things that I always say
is like I feel like I've had my truly my
success because I was messy because I was just like,
you know, yeah, fuck it. Like I remember the way
that I got kind of discovered was at BuzzFeed.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Right.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
I used to set their lunches and stop their can
their sodas, and I say, it's a kitchen, but it
was like a canteen almost sure, And I remember that
people would push past me to get their food, and
so I started this lunch show. Or I would get
on my skateboard and I skate around and I would
announce the lunch because people started to hold each other accountable,
like because I would be like, you know, ladies and gentlemen,
wait for me to come grab you. I promise that
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we'll get food. And like instead of people pushing past
me to get the food, they would be like, he said, wait,
And so it made this thing. But I remember I
would be hungover. I the guy that would deliver our
Costco order would be like, what's up, Curly, And he'd
be like, you smell like vodka, but I just delivered
some peanut butter.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Inside.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
There's two big jars in there, so go in there,
get a big spoon, will eat that and it'll take.
Speaker 8 (16:02):
Yeah, the odor order order odor. Yeah, the smell, the odor,
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the smell, the stench away.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Very He was so confused.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Oh my god, they exactly. Well, you know, you're kind
of like I think when you work in different areas,
like if you work in service or whatever, however you're
you kind of become homies with the other people behind
the scenes. But but I'm proud of that era of myself.
I think that it kind of allows me to go like, No,
I've been both the sinner and the saint. I've been,
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you know, the best of both worlds. And so I
wanted to ask you, like, do you feel like being
messy has helped you get to and do you consider yourself?
Do you consider yourself messy? And do you feel like
that is something that has helped you propel you into
the future?
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Are you a mess?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah? I mean we're all messes. I think to act
like you're not a mess is false. We're humans, We've
never been here before. Or you can believe in recarnation,
but this version of yourself has never been here before.
So the idea that you should be perfect at it,
or that you would be perfect at it is false
and hold you to a standard that will just destroy
you ultimately. So, yeah, I'm messy. We're all messy. Like,
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I don't think you ever grow out of that phase.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
So you agree tauruses are wrong.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Tauruses are correct, your friend? Not too much? Not too much? Yeah, No,
I just I don't think you. I think that you evolve,
but I don't. I hope that you're never grow out
of your mess because that is how you stay attached
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to reality. You have to go through things to have
a testimony about, you have to go through things to
be able to learn. And this I think we're in
a culture that only has been exacerbated by social media,
where everything has to be perfect, everything has to look
like a brand. Everyone's you know, scared to look like
they don't know what they're doing. But I think the
reason my messy Mondays has you know, had such success
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is because it says, you know, you're allowed to not
have it figured out, and also nobody else has it
figured out, and you're not alone, and it's like, let's
let's talk it out. Let's say the scary things, let's
say the hard things. I bet you there are a
lot of people who also have that, so like we
don't have to pretend like we know. That to me
is the importance about being messy.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
I think that that also is really good when I
talk to like my younger cousins and younger people where
even just my family in general. Like, I think that
in communities of color, there's a lot of shame around
things that sometimes we're not giving the opportunity to grow
into Like even like my mom, who's like an immigrant,
I think she has like June seventh grade, sixth grade education.
Like years ago. I was like, what do you think
(19:03):
about feminism? And she was like kind of like I don't.
I don't know what that is. So even just like
being able to do that, I think that like being
able to kind of live this life where I'm never
impressed by people what people think is bad. Like I'm like, like,
I'll know somebody be like, oh my god, Like we
talk about this all the time.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
She tells me shit and I'm like, oh my god,
you think that's bad.
Speaker 6 (19:27):
Like it was something where I'm like, yeah, we were
talking till three in the morning.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
He's like, were you guys like sexting.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
I'm like no, we were just talking about like random
stuff and he was like, oh, okay, whatever. He's like,
that's kind of like hearing like a junior high. Literally,
I was like, and then he kissed me on the cheek.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Yeah, Like she showed me her ankle like everywhere, and
I'm like, talk to Bobby over here, got gang bang
by fourteen different guys. But literally I was like, that
sounds if that's your thing, that sounds great, Like how
am I going to judge for some guys? Like it
sounds sore?
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Like you like it? Yeah, I love it. You're not
hurting yourself for anybody else.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
It's like, literally whatever go on.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
I think being messy has been able to when you're
when you're messy, you kind of there's nothing to hide
or be afraid of it.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
You can like live your life sooner. I think that
it's the trying not to be messy or denying that
there's a mess that forces you into boxes. And the
whole point I always ask is like, who would I
be a society never got its hands on me. It's
a really big question, and if you start to answer it,
you're gonna make a mess. It's you're gonna like, it's
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gonna spill over. And that's I think what we want
perfection is again a fallacy, and it will ultimately destroy
you and rob you of actually experiencing. If we're here
for you know, we're not here for a long time,
but for a short time you want to experience, it's
gonna be messy and beautiful.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Absolutely. Yeah, you should kiss who you want to kiss.
You should dance where you want to dance, eat what
you want to eat, lick a booty hole and.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Put groove on. Yeah, and find this fee the motion
and the section. Yes, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Tease, taste, speed, section, and experience things. You say I
don't want to do this or don't like this, and
you're like, is that mine or is that something that
I was taught by society but my family by community?
You got one life. Try it. If you don't like
the first time, try it a second time with somebody else,
because it might be the person. You know what I'm saying, Like,
stay curious. I thought I hated ass eating, and then
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I met a partner years later who ate my ass
and I was like, oh my god, this is perfection.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Well that's like me when I talk about how like
I thought that I wasn't a sexual person, like for
a very long time, I just was like, I don't
know that I it felt like I had to pay
the rent. So when I went sober, when I was drinking,
I would just engage sexually with.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
People while drunk.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Yeah, And then when I went sober, I had to
relearn how to do it again because I was just like,
I don't remember how to do this while being fully
present with somebody, and so I would only do it
with partners, and with my partners, I had to go
according to their style, and it took just kind of
opening up and having more partners and meeting somebody who
literally walked me through it and was like, hey, I'm
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here with you.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I really like this.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
I like you, now put your leg over this way
and you know, get into this position, and I'm like okay, yeah,
and then you kind of learn and then you apply
to the next one. You keep applying it, and then
you go like, oh, that's actually like a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
We all need a sex shepherd, you know what I'm saying,
Like we need somebody to just like guide us, because
it's like that's part of why I also about sex
is like you don't actually know, Like if you think
about your sex education, it's probably trash. It is probably
penis centered. It's probably just about contraception. So like, when
did you actually learn about sex, Like you actually sat
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you down and taught you how to play with your clip,
how to you know, play with your penis, how to
rub your nipples? What are your turn ons? Like probably
nobody because there's so much shame around it. So having
a sex shepherd to guide you through a sex doula
to be like, oh, this is what it looks like,
what it feels like. It's vulnerable, but like makes a
world of difference.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Well now I like it, Yeah, I like it. Before
I used to be location.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
I love communicating.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
I used to be just like gone, and it literally
felt like I was just having to pay rent. It
literally felt like it was just something that I'm like,
I guess this is what you're supposed to.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Do because you don't know what questions to ask, which
is totally fair. It's like, what are you supposed to ask?
How are you supposed to communicate? Like, no one teaches
you that, like you're going to need to talk to
the person. When we watch porn, we're like, oh it
goes like this, and people try to repeat that, and
it's like, babe, they're acting, they're acting. I don't like.
I don't like that, or that doesn't feel good when
you don't like that either.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
And the other thing that I learned too, is that
you can engage with somebody who's beautiful, attractive, something that
you somebody that you really like, and there's no chemistry
there totally and you kind of are like, oh, that
was okay, there is nothing wrong with that. Maybe we're
just homies and maybe you're just my beautiful homie. Yeah
it but that also was a learning thing for me
too because I also felt like, what's wrong with me?
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Why can't I hook up? What's wrong with them? Oh? Ship?
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Like something's broken? But it literally is just like I
think I'm gonna like turn over and we can like
cuddle and that's it.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Like there's no like.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Don't confuse your compatibility with your worth, right, Like you
might not be compatible with it doesn't mean that you're
not worthy. So like, just because we don't work out,
I'm not gonna now like go fix myself or tell
you to go fix yourself.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Because I always say, how many times do you see
somebody who's like super attractive? They're just like everything that
people think is gorgeous And you're like, okay, yeah it does.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Laugh at any of my jokes. I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yeah they're like yeah, yeah, they judge you for me,
Like what's the.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Which justice for him? Right?
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Everybody has everybody everybody, but like a lot of people,
it's so common.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
We deserve to speak out.
Speaker 9 (24:57):
About your.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Exactly and I love her.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah, what's her name? I don't know your name her?
I don't know what? Can I name her? Is she
on the outside? I was like, okay, is she looks
a little tag?
Speaker 2 (25:17):
She? Do you want?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I'm not saying okay, they get here? Yeah? Do you
feel like she? He a they she? What about Elizabeth?
I mean that just seems like Elizabeth Elizabeth you Wow,
(25:42):
I feel.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Like you just like baptized. Oh my god, Yesmorrhid. Listen,
we're talking to he was. They were on the big mouth.
Is this the conversation?
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I love it. I'm here for her. Yeah, I'm watching
like magic here magic happened.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
Okay, So we came up with this whole thing called
messy or iconic lovely, and we're going to give you
like a word or a phrase or whatever scenario.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
What do you think?
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Okay? Great?
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Okay, so polyamory?
Speaker 6 (26:18):
Yeah yeah, messy are iconic polyamory?
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Well, now I have questions, So like, because messy to
me is iconic so iconic? What what what like iconic?
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Is let's be messy or sloppy?
Speaker 9 (26:33):
People?
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Message?
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Is it messy? Okay, it's fabulous? Tell me more.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Well, I'm Polly. It's not for everybody, And like, I think,
whatever version of your relationship you want to be, and
it's fabulous as long as it words for you and
the people you're in relationship with. But it requires so
much communication over communicating because you're not because we all
have examples of what monogamy looks like. We've been watching
it since we were little, like all of our Mickey
and Minnie are together right old and Daisy, like, we
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know what that looks like. But polyamory, we don't have
a lot of, you know, representation of that. So those
of us who are in these relationships a lot of
times are building the blueprint as we're in it. And
so that's that takes a little extra work and can
get a little messy, and you have to like understand
that you're going to fuck up at times and like
how do you repair? There's gonna be tons of ruptures.
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But that's also true monogamy, right, Like there's going to
be ruptures. How do you repair? I think it's just
easier in monogamy sometimes to rush it under the rug
because you can get into your gender roles, which homosexuals
can absolutely emulate. Heteronorms. Right, so we kind of get
into this like man woman, binary things and like we
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don't talk about and like don't upset them and da
da da, but you have to you have to talk
about it, pull it out. And I think polyamory, you're like,
if you're going to actually be successful at this, you
do have to talk.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Can you get sloppy? Thought?
Speaker 1 (27:55):
It can be sloppy, but it's not. But the sloppiness,
to me is not about polyamory or monogamy or it's
about the person. It's not is beautiful, but the person
might be sloppy, Like if somebody is withholding lying to
you being taught, like that happens in any version of relationships.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I feel like I would be sloppy And.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Why would you're so compassionate?
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
I think everything I think that I think I would
get kind of like I get a little like competitive
sometimes in terms of so and so so funny like, well.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
I'm I gotta make them funnier.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
I gonna be funnier like or like, okay, here's there's
a There was an article that Elizabeth Gilbert released.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
She wrote you Prey Love.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
She wrote it years ago and she was saying that
one of the ways that she would sleep with married men,
and that can be the next sloppier pharmacy. But she
was saying, like, she sees many men, but the way
that she would get them was to be the exact
opposite of whatever his wife was. So if his wife
hated soccer, she loved soccer. So his wife didn't make
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him dinner. She was like, suddenly like boy rd over here. Yeah,
And so I think.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
That I would turn into like a little bit.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Not an antagonist, but I think i'd be like your
dena doesn't cook for you.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Oh my god, Like I got.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Wild.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
I think that's my double scorpio side though, where.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I'm like that could be jealousy.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Jealousy comes up, you know, but I don't consider myself jealous.
I think I just get a little competitive competitive.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
That's fair.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Yeah, okay, you know those.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Are beautiful things that first of all, jealousy and competitiveness
exists in any relationship form monogamy not monogamous. But it's
like it's a beautiful thing to like look at and
reflect that. It's like you're not gonna be able to
avoid that. How can you like dance with it? And
make it less scary. Yeah, it's when we avoid it
that it becomes scarier and more toxic, and we become
reactive as opposed to being like, oh what is this?
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Yeah, it's okay.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
It's human to be jealous, it's human to be competitive.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Have you seen you Love the movie? Sorry you love? Whoa?
The Joy Luck Club?
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
No, that I haven't seen.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
There's a woman who is like married to this man.
He has a bunch of wives and they just compete
over who's going to be one of the characters there,
who's going to be first wife? And there's like this
like battle, They like poison each other's kids, They do
all this thing.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
I would be sloppy.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Yeah, so sloppy.
Speaker 6 (30:24):
We'll do one more and then move on to the Okay,
having a situationship with someone who still shares an apartment
with their ex.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Having a situationship with someone who still sures, Well, if
it's a situationship, then I think it's messy. It can
get sloppy, but it's a situationship. So like if you
like we understand, like rent does high eggs very expensive.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Somebody because they still lived with their and they still
did a lot of X things together where I'm like,
what do you mean you guys want to go pick
out curtains together? Not that it was yeah, sample, but
it was still kind of like the lines are kind
of blurred for me where I'm like, I want to
do that together. I want to talk about renovating things.
So I didn't dip in for too long, Like I
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just was like, I.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Mean that's fair. But I also think like we live
in such an age where we again binary, where it's
like we're no longer together, you should be an ex.
And I love Daran Bernarva saying it's like my former
partner or like just like this idea that it's not
an ex, like we're no longer in relationship, but like
that's not you're not mine. It's like a former relationship
when we get to honor whatever it was and watch
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it evolve into something.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Yeah, but if you were dating somebody who like lived
with a former partner, they were like, oh, on Thursdays,
we watched whatever whatever, and then we go, do you
know we like our little it? They still have a
lot of things.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
For me, it would be like cut Like if you're
communicating with me about that, then great, because like I
because there's transparency right, honestly versus transparency honestly is like
I ask you to tell me, but transparent it's like
you're gonna tell me these things. Hey. By the way,
I live with my ex. Sometimes we do X, Y
and Z. That tells me I don't really have anything
to worry about, and if I do have something to
worry about, please let me know, unless like there's like
you know, if your intuition is going off and you're
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like that motherfucker is they're fucking I know, then like
that might get uncomfortable. But like otherwise, I'm like, if
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I'm in a relationship with you, I'm going to trust
you like you have an A in this class until you.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Feel that way to people like you have an A
until you don't. Yeah, but the first dock point would
be like you live with who?
Speaker 10 (32:53):
Sure, I'd be like, but it's like if you if
you knowingly live with your ex, then like you know,
you have to have a conversation with your with your
new partner about what that looks like, that means and
what the what the dynamics are like.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
You don't have to tell me a lot more information
and you should know that you have to tell me
information and then and.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Then we vibe ready for our next segment.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
What's the next segment?
Speaker 6 (33:16):
Hot topics, Hot takes?
Speaker 4 (33:19):
I always listed up every episode hot takes.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
It's just you get another word or phrase, and then
what's your hot take on that?
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Shake it up?
Speaker 1 (33:27):
God? Shake her?
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Shake it up?
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Yeah, she's a hot take. I don't know how to
say this word. Oh is it?
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Choose me?
Speaker 3 (33:38):
We are like try, how would you have said it was?
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Chis me? Okay? Cute?
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Okay?
Speaker 9 (33:47):
Culture twenty one Mayor for lover of money.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Okay, controversial because I have thoughts marry for love or money?
I mean, first of all, you know, marriage is a
business at base, like the history of it. It's a business.
So I want you to marry for love. But also like,
I'm okay if you marry for money too, like because
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because sometimes you're like, listen, I gotta make a little movie. Here.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
Your friends house literally literally.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
A compound, yea.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
And I want the jewelry that I can sell after
I want my allowance. I'm gonna buy something underneath. I'm
gonna have myself a little bank account. And I'm you know,
you want to see you know, I mean I'm married
for love or money. You can marry for either, but
I think that both are valid. You know, I think
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it's okay to marry for money. I think it's okay
to marry for love as long as you know what
you're doing with that money.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
I don't think about that able to marry for money.
I actually had like an opportunity to get with somebody
who was like super like, well long, yeah, and I
just was like I like that. I just like, don't.
I don't have the energy to fake the funk. Like
if I'm not present, then yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
If you have to fake it. But I feel like
if I'm on a trip to Italy, I'll fake it.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
The greatest audition.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
For first class love.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Give me those towels, give me that warm towel on
my face.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
I'll figure it out. I'll figure it.
Speaker 6 (35:38):
And then it's like when you're next to him, I'm
gonna put the window.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
I mean, as long as they're a dope person, like,
don't be an abusive situation. That would suck. But like
also somebody like listen, somebody's men that be marrying younger.
They understand like they're not the catch, Like you understand, yes,
you know what's happening?
Speaker 2 (35:58):
You know what's up? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (35:59):
You want you want to feel a little whatever. They
need to feel a little something. So we're in this
business partnership together.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Yeah, but what if they were like, it's monogamous though
for me, yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
That would not work. That would work. I know that
about me that would work. It would but for me
that would not work.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Okay, So let's say that, like, let's say it's marrying
for money, but it's monogamous, it better be a.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Lot of money.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
I get married here, yeah, the future.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
I'm not signing, no pre up or nothing.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
That's what I mean.
Speaker 6 (36:33):
My parents house first, and give them each ten dollars.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
But the thing about the marry for money thing that
I've continued to learn from watching housewives is you got
to ask questions about where that money is coming from.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
Okay, I'm watching New Jersey.
Speaker 6 (36:48):
Yeah again Okay, And you can feel Teresa's husband getting
more and more upset because the baptism that they had
for their youngest daughter was like a whole wedding, and he's.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Like, Theresa, do we really be the and we don't,
and we don't.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
I'm like I kind of like that, though, but do
we have that kind of money.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
That's what I'm saying, Like, I want to know where
that If you have a lot of money, I want
to know where that money is coming from. And I
got questions.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
I will say.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
I did go on a date with this guy once
who was older, attractive, gentleman. He is a doctor, but
oversees the doctors across like the county, so he's like
the doctors is a doctor, and went to his beautiful
house in the hills. We made it right onto the
Lusbila's Hills and I have never been in a house
like that.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
It was like, holy shit, I'm up there.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
I did go home, and I did plan out my
entire life, and I was like, I went on my
balcony in my apartment and I had like a Navita
moment where I was just looking at my subjects.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
If he married the money, you have to have an
exit plan.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
You know, for my people, like just like but then
I think he liked I think he told me that
he did date men of color. But he also mentioned
that like they all had like drug problems, and so
I was like, Oh, you want somebody who's like not
fully present. Yeah, yeah, see, I don't like that.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
You're not.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Kind of scared me because I was like, you know,
sometimes he's like your come on, yeah, love, don't I know?
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Me and Liz, Me and Liz back there, don't we know?
Speaker 6 (38:22):
Elizabeth to the astrology portion of the podcast, Okay, do you.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Know your big three?
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Yes, I'm a Taurus sun, Pisces moon, Sagittarius rising.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
Oh my god, well okay, I feel that Pisces. Okay,
double aries, double square.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Son. Yeah, a lot of.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
You're but I also feel the Sagittarius because I feel
like maybe you're Taurus and your Pisces like can keep
you kind of like mellow, but the Sagittarius is like,
let's go grow energy.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
Yeah, be the show girl.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Who's the one?
Speaker 1 (39:02):
And those three the sad probably yeah, whist it's too
like not lazy, but just like home tired.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
And when thes is like love what Pce is emotional?
Speaker 4 (39:15):
Icey's moons.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
We just had a new moon in our sign, didn't we.
Speaker 6 (39:21):
Gosh, my mom's a Pisces moon, Sagittarius sun. I'm just
always do not drown yourself, please, Yeah, don't get lost
in it, because I mean, Pisce's moons are probably the
most psychic out of the entire Yeah, that's because it's
just wow, Like how do you feel about that?
Speaker 1 (39:42):
It's true energy vibes. It's getting stronger as I get older,
like just like being able to like feel things ten cents,
things here, things ahead of time, Okay, do us what
do you feel? I you know, I'm not I'm not okay.
Speaker 6 (40:02):
They're mostly like navigating your own emotions, like how do
you not let let it override you? And you know,
navigate like what would you have give some advice for
my mom, who's a pissy's mood who always oh.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
I feel like the key for me is meditation, Like
you have to have your own kind of spiritual grounding
so that you can get really clear about what's yours
and what's not yours. If you just kind of wake
up and go into the day, you're gonna absorb everything
and then that is just confusing. So I'm really disciplined
about waking up, Like I wake up two hours before
I have to be anywhere, before I have to leave
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the house, and that first hour is just for me
to like meditate and show and like whatever, and then
I have like a pretty you know, pretty set with
my workouts. Which is also more time for me. But
it's like without those hours for myself, I'm would be
a mess.
Speaker 11 (40:51):
Yeah, nuity ten and then you go to bed actually
like yeah, I take one of those stabbedible and I'm
out like ten, ten thirty latest and then yeah up
with like five thirty six.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
But yeah, any for anyone, Honestly, it's like what is
your spirituality? And it doesn't have to be I want
to say meditation is them to be like oh I'm
in silence. It can be, but I also always say,
like listening to Whitney Houston song's meditation, like art, engaging
with any kind of art, writing voice, noting, whatever that is.
It's just like in again, whether it's one minute, five minutes,
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an hour, it's like intentional time that you car for
yourself daily. That's a non negotiable because you will schedule
time for everybody and everything else, even if you have
a kid, it's like everyone so you'll give. But if
you never give back to yourself, then you're truly just
a shell of yourself.
Speaker 6 (41:43):
Yeah, and what are some signs that you feel like
you gravitate towards or I guess surround yourself with.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
I'm mostly surrounded. All my besties are Aris. I have
a triple Aris bestie, but like all of my life,
they're April. I think all of them, actually bro one
of them might be March. A bunch of aries Aries
and a bunch of Pisces are in my life, and
then a couple of random I loves.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
Did you know that this is going to happen?
Speaker 2 (42:15):
I did.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
I felt that I felt before I got sorry.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
I know at the beginning, you guys.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
You were.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
I loved it. Well.
Speaker 6 (42:25):
I mean, we were talking a lot about their astrology.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
We're supposed to be.
Speaker 6 (42:31):
You were saying, in your chart, you attract a lot
of Yeah, So in.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
My chart, I'm supposed to marry a Taurus. I'm supposed
to be like, that's my and so my whole life
I always been like, oh my god, it's going to
be a Torust.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
But that's kind of the the vibe.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
But I did say earlier that I was like, my
only qualm with y'all is when it comes to being wrong.
I feel you guys have a hard time with being wrong.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
So what do you mean we have a hard time
being wrong?
Speaker 2 (43:04):
I feel like whenever I talk to it, what do
you mean i'll talk about this. I didn't notice the
change in pitch.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
I want to get into the conversation.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
I feel like when I tell my mom or my
sister or my best friend one of my best friends
like like, oh, that was kind of like I don't
think that was the best thing to do. I feel
like because to Earth signs are so we're very like
we plan things out, We're very meticulous, we're well thought out.
We don't just jump the gun with a lot of things.
(43:36):
So when somebody's like I think that was wrong, it
fucks with like a lot of data that has already
been sticking up. And so I feel like with my
with Taurus is specifically and I could be wrong.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
So this might not be you.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
I'll look at you backfedaling.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
But I feel like there's a lot of moments where
they go, oh, I think I could have done that better,
where there will be like a little moment of like regret,
because when they're confined with something, they get kind of
like like kind of like huppy, like I don't know,
they're very like stubborn in the way, but then there's
like this moment of like, oh shit, I think I
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could have done better.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
I think I could have handled that differently.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
Versus virgos toxic virgos. I think, are they don't ever
have that? Like hmmm, like how can I say it?
Like they're worse, right, I think? But I think that
I have found that what taurus is When I'm like, hey,
I didn't think that was cool, it's like hard to
get that.
Speaker 6 (44:35):
So it's like interesting, do tauruses handle conflict in a
stubborn way?
Speaker 3 (44:40):
And you might be different because you have the pisces
and you might have the sure.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
I think that my grandmother was like a tourists. She
was rarely wrong, but like I give her credit like
she was she was actually but like if she was, yeah,
she was, like she was, she's hot. Like don't don't
get into it. I like being wrong. I like, I like, uh,
if you if you like, here's what I'll say. As
(45:08):
a tourist, I have receipts. So if you're going to
come at me and say I'm wrong, you better be
willing and ready to prove it. And if you prove it,
I'm happy to be like, oh I that up, But
don't come with no wishy washy I felt no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
Is it hard to prove it though with you, is
it hard to prove it?
Speaker 2 (45:29):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
Yeah, a little bit. The delete that don't do yet
erased that it's it's not hard because I'm willing for
(45:51):
the feedback. But like I feel like I doped my
eyes and across my t's a lot, then it's going
to be that's rare that.
Speaker 4 (46:01):
I'm wrong and that astrology.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Sometimes I am rare, but sometimes I am.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
I feel like I really don't care. I think I'm
like a B type Burgo, so I'm very liking whatever.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
It's fine.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
I'm not like to I don't have to be right.
I don't have to be ye is an impact, but
I'm I feel like I kind of get I think
one of my toxic traits is that I don't care.
Usually I would say I'm very like or whatever.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
About stuff.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
Though usually yeah, to chill, that's nothing.
Speaker 6 (46:46):
That's my I am in our dynamic, I am like
very reactive and is like, you really need to I'm like, yes.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
But that's every relationship.
Speaker 3 (46:59):
Like people are like and even when I argue with
people because I'm I'm super like mellow like, sometimes people
want that energy back and like and I think sometimes
people need that energy to feel like I care, But
I'm kind of just like, well, we're going to make
up anyways, So why am I going.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
To Wow, we should get married?
Speaker 2 (47:15):
Yeah, we've never.
Speaker 6 (47:17):
Argue final get married to.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Let's do it.
Speaker 6 (47:24):
And that concludes the astrology portion.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
Be pregnant.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
Oh my gosh, who pops in? That's what I've been
me Oh I just exposed?
Speaker 7 (47:39):
What time?
Speaker 4 (47:40):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (47:51):
What fine?
Speaker 2 (47:53):
Thank you so much? Thank you?
Speaker 6 (47:56):
Is there anything you want to promote?
Speaker 1 (47:58):
Like about my podcast is tell me something Messy comes
out every Thursday. Premieres in October. Second second season. Uh.
And my stage show ho Church. If you're in New York,
I'm doing a stage show called ho Church. H a
u X runs from October eighteenth to November eighth.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
I love that. So when are we going.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
To New York?
Speaker 1 (48:15):
Come on to New eighteen, November eight times.
Speaker 4 (48:19):
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Speaker 2 (48:21):
Every single show done.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
I want that?
Speaker 2 (48:24):
And where can people find you? On social media?
Speaker 1 (48:26):
At Brandon Kaw Goodman or Brandon Cogoman dot com and
I'll take you everywhere.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
Brand and Kyle Goodman.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
KG love Brandon Kyle Goodman.
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And my working people find you on social media.
Speaker 6 (48:38):
You can find me at Maya in the Moment, m
A y A in the moment. Anywhere you Squirrel, what
about you Curly?
Speaker 3 (48:44):
You can find me at the Curly v Show on
Instagram and TikTok and.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
Read note what's red now?
Speaker 6 (48:53):
It was like when TikTok was about to be deleted
blue It was.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
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we know what that looks like. But polyamory, we don't
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Have we run away together? Finally? Yes, that's why I
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And I don't know if I'm blushing on my face
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with you.
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Yeah, that's really lovely. You got to make your point somehow.
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Yeah, you know extra right right? Oh my gosh, thanks
for being here.
Speaker 7 (02:18):
Curly is Sody? You know, like Curly and birthdays are
every single year. I have to be like, hey, what
do you know, pressure, what do you.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Want to do?
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Because He's like, yeah, I get very you know what
it is, it's like and it's very spiritual. But I
feel like all year long, I like love on my people,
and it's the one day where people are like, we're
gonna love on you. And it makes me so like, like.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I'm so overwhelmed with the love.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I just it makes me like really emotional and all
I want to do is I cry because I just
and hide because I just am so overwhelmed by all
the love. And so I don't know, it's almost just
like if you were to imagine being sent into the
Godhead and you're just surrounded by all this light and love,
you would just explode.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
You would just explode into a bunch of little bubbles.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yeah, And so is it the love or is it
the pressure to do things?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
It's the love. It's the love. Like the pressure to
do I'm not gonna do anything I don't want to
do like that. I'm just like I'm going to take
a nap.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
It's like the love of people sending me these beautiful
messages or just like just.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Being so kind to me. And I think it's kind of.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Just like and I immediately am like, let's talk about you, Like,
how are you doing my birthday.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
I'm like all those who didn't wish.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
How are you on your birthday?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
It's very much all about me, but like I handle
it like I don't need anything from other people. It's
a rest of reflection day.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I used to like do the whole party stuff, and
now I'm like, I'll do a dinner maybe, But even that,
I love to cancel. I like to just be in
my home order what I want. Like it's just let
me do what I want to.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Do, and so it's usually just you order in and
you just.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
That's what I do love about y'all, that y'all to
My mom's a tourist, my sister's a tous Yeah, surrounded
by y'all. I do love that aspect. And it's also
kind of like with toys. Is I like being able
to go, but do you want to go get Ty
and ice Cream filmwhere together? And you'll be like, yeah,
I'm yeah, let's go do that. Yeah, not as like wild,
but there's a chill, but it does feel like I
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just get really overwhelmed.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
That is what it is. So I just forgot. I'm
also a double scorpio, so that's probably scorpios.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
What do you what are you gonna do for your
birth today?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Nothing?
Speaker 1 (04:41):
That's what I was like.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
I was like, what do you want to do?
Speaker 6 (04:43):
Do you want someone to plan something for you?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Which is so kind?
Speaker 6 (04:48):
And I'm like, do you just want to like go
ghost and not be bothered this weekend at all?
Speaker 4 (04:53):
And he's like, yes, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Also am working tomorrow still too.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I'm shooting like a short scene in a film, so
I'm like, I just need to memorize my lines and
then after tomorrow, I just kind of want to eat
sushi and like master rates six times.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I think I'm just gonna do it what you do
every day? Yea true seven times, but you're always do
you want to do the bio?
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Like just a bio?
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, there's my goodness? Oh would you get this.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Bio from robotics?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
You can totally disagree with us and be like fucked up? Okay.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Brandon Cale Goodman and then they put in parentheses. Stay
Them is an actor, writer, actor, writer, and active. Is
best known as the writer and the voice of Walter
on Netflix's Big Mouth and Human Resources.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Is this accurate?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
That's accurate?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Wonderful.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
They're also author of the you Gotta Be You this
is how you said it in your head.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
How do you say that you gotta be.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
How you say exactly?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
You gotta be here, you gotta be better exactly. Hosts
of the tell Me Something Messy Yeah podcast, which I
have yet to be invited on, and the creator of
the viral i G series Messy Monday with humor, heart
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and honesty. Brandon champions authentic representation and conversations about race,
gender and identity.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Relationship, sex and identity.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Okay, we'll blame the robot. You would say what again?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Relationship, sex and identity, relationships, sex and identity.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
It would include race, gender, sexual orientation.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Yeah, I mean that's we can kind of start there.
I think Messy Mondays is kind of like I loved
when I first. I feel like I remember when you
were first were starting to do it on your insost stories,
and I remember seeing that a lot of people would
ask you a lot of questions and say things and
you very openly. You were just talking to them, like openly,
as if you were just kind of like the cousin
(07:06):
that comes over and is like.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah, yeah, and how.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Did that even? How did that even start? Did you
just wake up one day and you're like, let me
just and I'm not by the way, for those of
you listening, I'm not talking about.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Like how do I should I do birth control or not?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
These were like how do I gag on this fat
ass d in my mouth? Like and you would be like, well,
first of all, let me just turn this way. Here's
a banana. I think you brought out a banana at
one point. I feel like I or maybe when I
asked you you were telling me about this banana.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Maybe I know I showed how to eat ask using
a wine glass because because you can because you can
see through it. But the dick I might have used,
probably used like a pen or something like a sharpie.
It's probably what I use.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Okay, because I feel you used something.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah, I like, I like a visual.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Can we start there? Oh? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Do you want me to show sorry where we.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Started to start with the wine glass?
Speaker 1 (08:00):
The wine glass? O? Yeah, So the wine glass was
about how to eat ass which t T S S
taste speed suction?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
So say you that one more time? Distracted me?
Speaker 1 (08:09):
It was like what t T S S tease tastes
speed section your advanced Okay, you got to tease the
whole right, so you play with the whole. I'm not
on it. It's like a door. I want to open it.
And then you gotta taste it, okay, which is a
which is a flat tongue like you're looking ice cream.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
And then uh speed so you can play with the temple,
which I always say, like, have a little song on
the same who wants the same stroke?
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Love?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
And then section it's a little advance if you want
to like the whole, it's a little a little and
that's going to be a person dependent and that's like
your advance.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Okay, because there's somebody who like I don't I literally
feel like my butay h are we talking about?
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, like what happened? I had to look down at myself.
I was like, what's going on there? Okay, We're still
good because like I okay, butt play for me, for example,
like I don't feel anything, Like I'm kind of not
present in butt play.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
You don't feel anything.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I'm just kind of just there.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Like sometimes I feel like it's more for the person
that is doing.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
It, and this is for everything. This is eating ass.
Something in your butt eating.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
As is different and something in my butt. I feel
like I'm more like something in my butt. I don't
like objects, and I've always been very big on like
I don't want you want toys.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I don't like toys in there, but like a dick,
A dick is fine, maybe finger's okay, fine, toys No,
I mean have you had toys? And I'm sure have you?
I don't know if ice, but like I have a hemorrhoid.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yeah, so it was like.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Population toys make me feel like plugged up, like there's
something in my butt. What kind of toys I've tried,
like beads, I've tried, like vibrators, I've tried plug I
feel like congested.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah, well it just like a shred of dildo.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, I feel congested. I just feel like I'm like
there's something in.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
There's just like leaving it in there?
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Are you like playing there's movement?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
By the way, this is what messy Mondays are, Like
you go into the instory.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
I mean I love it, like the the title of
this episode is the importance Oh.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yah yeah yeah yeah yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
That is important. This is sportant.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
But for you, like you know, how did you get
started with messy Mondays? And like starting like I guess
because it's like makes people feel more comfortable too.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Yeah, that you're just talking about it.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Well, in twenty twenty, I was talking about race and
alleyship and intersectionality, but I was also writing on big Mouth,
and I really missed telling dick jokes. And around August
of twenty twenty there's allyship fatigue and that was very annoying.
So around I think November December, I just like got
on my Instagram stories that tell me something good, it
(10:58):
tell me something messy kind of no intention, no whatever,
but everyone was forny because they were at home. So
all the questions were about sex, and I'm work on
a show like that is about sex and puberty and
all that stuff. So it was really easy to just
like answer the questions without like oh my god. Like
it was kind of like, oh yeah, cool, yeah I've
had that's had that experience, or I'm curious about that,
(11:20):
or I don't know about that, but I'll find the answer.
And so I just started like responding to the questions
without any kind of judgment or shame. Yeah, and that
gained me the name messy Mom.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
But in this same way, by the way, like not yeah,
there was no like you just weren't afraid of the detail,
which I think is And I remember they called you
messy mom.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah, that was like the nickname that I got after
a while.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Wow. Have you ever like off the top of you
had had questions that were just like too much for
you that.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
You're like, oh sure, yeah, I'm well, I like I
see the questions ahead of time, and so I pick
which ones I answer because some of them are like,
this is not an appropriate question for me to answer,
or it's just like I do believe there's a difference
between me and sloppy.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
What is it.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Well, sloppy is like if you want to brag about
like an affair or something like that. And so when
we start to like enter into territory where like our
morals are a little shaky, that's where I'm like, that's
not my that's on my bag. But MESSI is to me,
messy is human, so like anyone has to touch your
human experience, whether that is sex, relationships, identity, like that
is being a human. So that's messy. And so I
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welcome all of those questions or debates or ideas.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
That's very interesting because I feel like that's actually going
to come up later where we want to ask you
if it's.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Like messy or icon yeah, chonic. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
And that's one of the things too, where I feel
like you do hear about people having affairs and you're like,
it's for me. It's interesting because I feel like the
alien from Lelo and Stitch that is here to research mosquitos. Yeah,
my mosquitos are the human Yeah. And I feel like
I hear so many stories where I'm like, we had
an affair and now we're married and we've been together
for thirty five years and now we have kids, and
(12:58):
I'm like.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
What would have happened if y'all never had that affair?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
So I really like, so to me, I'm kind of
just like, oh, what is the line? But for me
like messy and sloppy, Like I feel like I don't
know that I would know the.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Well the affair. By the way, I want to say,
the fear isn't sloppy because affairs happened, so that's human.
But it's if you're if you are writing to me
to brag about the affair, that's when I say it
gets like me.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Like, oh I slept with my boss.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah, I slept with this person, but my friends but
it's like, Okay, well, you're just telling me something that
you did that you probably shouldn't have done. Whereas if
you're asking me a questions like I had an affair,
I'm not sure if I should tell my partner or
like I'm feeling that's different. Like I did an episode
on the podcast about cheating. I'm happy to people cheat,
so like that's part of the human experience, but like
if we are cheating and then you know, being you know,
(13:45):
toxic about it, then that's like that's not mine. That's not.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
To say another.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
My brains like say it okay, okay, should we go
into messy or iconic? You had your this say is
Curly shares about being a drunk slash cokeid miss Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Because we were talking about like I so basically why
we wanted to talk about it too is like I
think that being messy. One of the things that I
tell younger people is and always like, be messy. Yeah,
shoot your shot, be messy. You're supposed to do that
in your twenties. You're supposed to. So I went sober
when I was twenty seven twenty eight because I was like,
it's no longer cute to be messy. There's something about
(14:32):
me saying, like a twenty one year old who is
like too drunk, Let's say it's my little cousin. They're
too drunk. They're messy. Their fucking hair is crazy. There's
gum in their hair, their boobs out or whatever it is.
And I'm like, baby, and they wake up and they're like,
I'm so embarrassed, and I'm like, babes.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
You gotta live, like you gotta You're fine, You're chilling
to me.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
It's different when you're now in your thirties and your
mid thirties and you're got gum in your hair.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Again, your titties out, your Gucci, your cohunus. Because now
I'm like, girl, it's kind of not as all together. Yeah,
it's kind of like time for that.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
So like one of the things that I always say
is like I feel like I've had my truly my
success because I was messy because I was just like,
you know, yeah, fuck it. Like I remember the way
that I got kind of discovered was at BuzzFeed.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Right.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
I used to set their lunches and stop their can
their sodas, and I say, it's a kitchen, but it
was like a canteen almost sure, And I remember that
people would push past me to get their food, and
so I started this lunch show. Or I would get
on my skateboard and I skate around and I would
announce the lunch because people started to hold each other accountable,
like because I would be like, you know, ladies and gentlemen,
wait for me to come grab you. I promise that
(15:37):
we'll get food. And like instead of people pushing past
me to get the food, they would be like, he said, wait,
And so it made this thing. But I remember I
would be hungover. I the guy that would deliver our
Costco order would be like, what's up, Curly, And he'd
be like, you smell like vodka, but I just delivered
some peanut butter.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Inside.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
There's two big jars in there, so go in there,
get a big spoon, will eat that and it'll take.
Speaker 8 (16:02):
Yeah, the odor order order odor. Yeah, the smell, the odor,
(16:25):
the smell, the stench away.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Very He was so confused.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Oh my god, they exactly. Well, you know, you're kind
of like I think when you work in different areas,
like if you work in service or whatever, however you're
you kind of become homies with the other people behind
the scenes. But but I'm proud of that era of myself.
I think that it kind of allows me to go like, No,
I've been both the sinner and the saint. I've been,
(16:54):
you know, the best of both worlds. And so I
wanted to ask you, like, do you feel like being
messy has helped you get to and do you consider yourself?
Do you consider yourself messy? And do you feel like
that is something that has helped you propel you into
the future?
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Are you a mess?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah? I mean we're all messes. I think to act
like you're not a mess is false. We're humans, We've
never been here before. Or you can believe in recarnation,
but this version of yourself has never been here before.
So the idea that you should be perfect at it,
or that you would be perfect at it is false
and hold you to a standard that will just destroy
you ultimately. So, yeah, I'm messy. We're all messy. Like,
(17:29):
I don't think you ever grow out of that phase.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
So you agree tauruses are wrong.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Tauruses are correct, your friend? Not too much? Not too much? Yeah, No,
I just I don't think you. I think that you evolve,
but I don't. I hope that you're never grow out
of your mess because that is how you stay attached
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to reality. You have to go through things to have
a testimony about, you have to go through things to
be able to learn. And this I think we're in
a culture that only has been exacerbated by social media,
where everything has to be perfect, everything has to look
like a brand. Everyone's you know, scared to look like
they don't know what they're doing. But I think the
reason my messy Mondays has you know, had such success
(18:21):
is because it says, you know, you're allowed to not
have it figured out, and also nobody else has it
figured out, and you're not alone, and it's like, let's
let's talk it out. Let's say the scary things, let's
say the hard things. I bet you there are a
lot of people who also have that, so like we
don't have to pretend like we know. That to me
is the importance about being messy.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
I think that that also is really good when I
talk to like my younger cousins and younger people where
even just my family in general. Like, I think that
in communities of color, there's a lot of shame around
things that sometimes we're not giving the opportunity to grow
into Like even like my mom, who's like an immigrant,
I think she has like June seventh grade, sixth grade education.
Like years ago. I was like, what do you think
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about feminism? And she was like kind of like I don't.
I don't know what that is. So even just like
being able to do that, I think that like being
able to kind of live this life where I'm never
impressed by people what people think is bad. Like I'm like, like,
I'll know somebody be like, oh my god, Like we
talk about this all the time.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
She tells me shit and I'm like, oh my god,
you think that's bad.
Speaker 6 (19:27):
Like it was something where I'm like, yeah, we were
talking till three in the morning.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
He's like, were you guys like sexting.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
I'm like no, we were just talking about like random
stuff and he was like, oh, okay, whatever. He's like,
that's kind of like hearing like a junior high. Literally,
I was like, and then he kissed me on the cheek.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Yeah, Like she showed me her ankle like everywhere, and
I'm like, talk to Bobby over here, got gang bang
by fourteen different guys. But literally I was like, that
sounds if that's your thing, that sounds great, Like how
am I going to judge for some guys? Like it
sounds sore?
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Like you like it? Yeah, I love it. You're not
hurting yourself for anybody else.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
It's like, literally whatever go on.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
I think being messy has been able to when you're
when you're messy, you kind of there's nothing to hide
or be afraid of it.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
You can like live your life sooner. I think that
it's the trying not to be messy or denying that
there's a mess that forces you into boxes. And the
whole point I always ask is like, who would I
be a society never got its hands on me. It's
a really big question, and if you start to answer it,
you're gonna make a mess. It's you're gonna like, it's
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gonna spill over. And that's I think what we want
perfection is again a fallacy, and it will ultimately destroy
you and rob you of actually experiencing. If we're here
for you know, we're not here for a long time,
but for a short time you want to experience, it's
gonna be messy and beautiful.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Absolutely. Yeah, you should kiss who you want to kiss.
You should dance where you want to dance, eat what
you want to eat, lick a booty hole and.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Put groove on. Yeah, and find this fee the motion
and the section. Yes, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Tease, taste, speed, section, and experience things. You say I
don't want to do this or don't like this, and
you're like, is that mine or is that something that
I was taught by society but my family by community?
You got one life. Try it. If you don't like
the first time, try it a second time with somebody else,
because it might be the person. You know what I'm saying, Like,
stay curious. I thought I hated ass eating, and then
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I met a partner years later who ate my ass
and I was like, oh my god, this is perfection.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Well that's like me when I talk about how like
I thought that I wasn't a sexual person, like for
a very long time, I just was like, I don't
know that I it felt like I had to pay
the rent. So when I went sober, when I was drinking,
I would just engage sexually with.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
People while drunk.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Yeah, And then when I went sober, I had to
relearn how to do it again because I was just like,
I don't remember how to do this while being fully
present with somebody, and so I would only do it
with partners, and with my partners, I had to go
according to their style, and it took just kind of
opening up and having more partners and meeting somebody who
literally walked me through it and was like, hey, I'm
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here with you.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I really like this.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
I like you, now put your leg over this way
and you know, get into this position, and I'm like okay, yeah,
and then you kind of learn and then you apply
to the next one. You keep applying it, and then
you go like, oh, that's actually like a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
We all need a sex shepherd, you know what I'm saying,
Like we need somebody to just like guide us, because
it's like that's part of why I also about sex
is like you don't actually know, Like if you think
about your sex education, it's probably trash. It is probably
penis centered. It's probably just about contraception. So like, when
did you actually learn about sex, Like you actually sat
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you down and taught you how to play with your clip,
how to you know, play with your penis, how to
rub your nipples? What are your turn ons? Like probably
nobody because there's so much shame around it. So having
a sex shepherd to guide you through a sex doula
to be like, oh, this is what it looks like,
what it feels like. It's vulnerable, but like makes a
world of difference.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Well now I like it, Yeah, I like it. Before
I used to be location.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
I love communicating.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
I used to be just like gone, and it literally
felt like I was just having to pay rent. It
literally felt like it was just something that I'm like,
I guess this is what you're supposed to.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Do because you don't know what questions to ask, which
is totally fair. It's like, what are you supposed to ask?
How are you supposed to communicate? Like, no one teaches
you that, like you're going to need to talk to
the person. When we watch porn, we're like, oh it
goes like this, and people try to repeat that, and
it's like, babe, they're acting, they're acting. I don't like.
I don't like that, or that doesn't feel good when
you don't like that either.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
And the other thing that I learned too, is that
you can engage with somebody who's beautiful, attractive, something that
you somebody that you really like, and there's no chemistry
there totally and you kind of are like, oh, that
was okay, there is nothing wrong with that. Maybe we're
just homies and maybe you're just my beautiful homie. Yeah
it but that also was a learning thing for me
too because I also felt like, what's wrong with me?
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Why can't I hook up? What's wrong with them? Oh? Ship?
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Like something's broken? But it literally is just like I
think I'm gonna like turn over and we can like
cuddle and that's it.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Like there's no like.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Don't confuse your compatibility with your worth, right, Like you
might not be compatible with it doesn't mean that you're
not worthy. So like, just because we don't work out,
I'm not gonna now like go fix myself or tell
you to go fix yourself.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Because I always say, how many times do you see
somebody who's like super attractive? They're just like everything that
people think is gorgeous And you're like, okay, yeah it does.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Laugh at any of my jokes. I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yeah they're like yeah, yeah, they judge you for me,
Like what's the.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Which justice for him? Right?
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Everybody has everybody everybody, but like a lot of people,
it's so common.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
We deserve to speak out.
Speaker 9 (24:57):
About your.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Exactly and I love her.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah, what's her name? I don't know your name her?
I don't know what? Can I name her? Is she
on the outside? I was like, okay, is she looks
a little tag?
Speaker 2 (25:17):
She? Do you want?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I'm not saying okay, they get here? Yeah? Do you
feel like she? He a they she? What about Elizabeth?
I mean that just seems like Elizabeth Elizabeth you Wow,
(25:42):
I feel.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Like you just like baptized. Oh my god, Yesmorrhid. Listen,
we're talking to he was. They were on the big mouth.
Is this the conversation?
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I love it. I'm here for her. Yeah, I'm watching
like magic here magic happened.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
Okay, So we came up with this whole thing called
messy or iconic lovely, and we're going to give you
like a word or a phrase or whatever scenario.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
What do you think?
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Okay? Great?
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Okay, so polyamory?
Speaker 6 (26:18):
Yeah yeah, messy are iconic polyamory?
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Well, now I have questions, So like, because messy to
me is iconic so iconic? What what what like iconic?
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Is let's be messy or sloppy?
Speaker 9 (26:33):
People?
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Message?
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Is it messy? Okay, it's fabulous? Tell me more.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Well, I'm Polly. It's not for everybody, And like, I think,
whatever version of your relationship you want to be, and
it's fabulous as long as it words for you and
the people you're in relationship with. But it requires so
much communication over communicating because you're not because we all
have examples of what monogamy looks like. We've been watching
it since we were little, like all of our Mickey
and Minnie are together right old and Daisy, like, we
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know what that looks like. But polyamory, we don't have
a lot of, you know, representation of that. So those
of us who are in these relationships a lot of
times are building the blueprint as we're in it. And
so that's that takes a little extra work and can
get a little messy, and you have to like understand
that you're going to fuck up at times and like
how do you repair? There's gonna be tons of ruptures.
(27:22):
But that's also true monogamy, right, Like there's going to
be ruptures. How do you repair? I think it's just
easier in monogamy sometimes to rush it under the rug
because you can get into your gender roles, which homosexuals
can absolutely emulate. Heteronorms. Right, so we kind of get
into this like man woman, binary things and like we
(27:42):
don't talk about and like don't upset them and da
da da, but you have to you have to talk
about it, pull it out. And I think polyamory, you're like,
if you're going to actually be successful at this, you
do have to talk.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Can you get sloppy? Thought?
Speaker 1 (27:55):
It can be sloppy, but it's not. But the sloppiness,
to me is not about polyamory or monogamy or it's
about the person. It's not is beautiful, but the person
might be sloppy, Like if somebody is withholding lying to
you being taught, like that happens in any version of relationships.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I feel like I would be sloppy And.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Why would you're so compassionate?
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
I think everything I think that I think I would
get kind of like I get a little like competitive
sometimes in terms of so and so so funny like, well.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
I'm I gotta make them funnier.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
I gonna be funnier like or like, okay, here's there's
a There was an article that Elizabeth Gilbert released.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
She wrote you Prey Love.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
She wrote it years ago and she was saying that
one of the ways that she would sleep with married men,
and that can be the next sloppier pharmacy. But she
was saying, like, she sees many men, but the way
that she would get them was to be the exact
opposite of whatever his wife was. So if his wife
hated soccer, she loved soccer. So his wife didn't make
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him dinner. She was like, suddenly like boy rd over here. Yeah,
And so I think.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
That I would turn into like a little bit.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Not an antagonist, but I think i'd be like your
dena doesn't cook for you.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Oh my god, Like I got.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Wild.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
I think that's my double scorpio side though, where.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I'm like that could be jealousy.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Jealousy comes up, you know, but I don't consider myself jealous.
I think I just get a little competitive competitive.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
That's fair.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Yeah, okay, you know those.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Are beautiful things that first of all, jealousy and competitiveness
exists in any relationship form monogamy not monogamous. But it's
like it's a beautiful thing to like look at and
reflect that. It's like you're not gonna be able to
avoid that. How can you like dance with it? And
make it less scary. Yeah, it's when we avoid it
that it becomes scarier and more toxic, and we become
reactive as opposed to being like, oh what is this?
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Yeah, it's okay.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
It's human to be jealous, it's human to be competitive.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Have you seen you Love the movie? Sorry you love? Whoa?
The Joy Luck Club?
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
No, that I haven't seen.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
There's a woman who is like married to this man.
He has a bunch of wives and they just compete
over who's going to be one of the characters there,
who's going to be first wife? And there's like this
like battle, They like poison each other's kids, They do
all this thing.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
I would be sloppy.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Yeah, so sloppy.
Speaker 6 (30:24):
We'll do one more and then move on to the Okay,
having a situationship with someone who still shares an apartment
with their ex.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Having a situationship with someone who still sures, Well, if
it's a situationship, then I think it's messy. It can
get sloppy, but it's a situationship. So like if you
like we understand, like rent does high eggs very expensive.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Somebody because they still lived with their and they still
did a lot of X things together where I'm like,
what do you mean you guys want to go pick
out curtains together? Not that it was yeah, sample, but
it was still kind of like the lines are kind
of blurred for me where I'm like, I want to
do that together. I want to talk about renovating things.
So I didn't dip in for too long, Like I
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just was like, I.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Mean that's fair. But I also think like we live
in such an age where we again binary, where it's
like we're no longer together, you should be an ex.
And I love Daran Bernarva saying it's like my former
partner or like just like this idea that it's not
an ex, like we're no longer in relationship, but like
that's not you're not mine. It's like a former relationship
when we get to honor whatever it was and watch
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it evolve into something.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Yeah, but if you were dating somebody who like lived
with a former partner, they were like, oh, on Thursdays,
we watched whatever whatever, and then we go, do you
know we like our little it? They still have a
lot of things.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
For me, it would be like cut Like if you're
communicating with me about that, then great, because like I
because there's transparency right, honestly versus transparency honestly is like
I ask you to tell me, but transparent it's like
you're gonna tell me these things. Hey. By the way,
I live with my ex. Sometimes we do X, Y
and Z. That tells me I don't really have anything
to worry about, and if I do have something to
worry about, please let me know, unless like there's like
you know, if your intuition is going off and you're
(32:16):
like that motherfucker is they're fucking I know, then like
that might get uncomfortable. But like otherwise, I'm like, if
(32:39):
I'm in a relationship with you, I'm going to trust
you like you have an A in this class until you.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Feel that way to people like you have an A
until you don't. Yeah, but the first dock point would
be like you live with who?
Speaker 10 (32:53):
Sure, I'd be like, but it's like if you if
you knowingly live with your ex, then like you know,
you have to have a conversation with your with your
new partner about what that looks like, that means and
what the what the dynamics are like.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
You don't have to tell me a lot more information
and you should know that you have to tell me
information and then and.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Then we vibe ready for our next segment.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
What's the next segment?
Speaker 6 (33:16):
Hot topics, Hot takes?
Speaker 4 (33:19):
I always listed up every episode hot takes.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
It's just you get another word or phrase, and then
what's your hot take on that?
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Shake it up?
Speaker 1 (33:27):
God? Shake her?
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Shake it up?
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Yeah, she's a hot take. I don't know how to
say this word. Oh is it?
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Choose me?
Speaker 3 (33:38):
We are like try, how would you have said it was?
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Chis me? Okay? Cute?
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Okay?
Speaker 9 (33:47):
Culture twenty one Mayor for lover of money.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Okay, controversial because I have thoughts marry for love or money?
I mean, first of all, you know, marriage is a
business at base, like the history of it. It's a business.
So I want you to marry for love. But also like,
I'm okay if you marry for money too, like because
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because sometimes you're like, listen, I gotta make a little movie. Here.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
Your friends house literally literally.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
A compound, yea.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
And I want the jewelry that I can sell after
I want my allowance. I'm gonna buy something underneath. I'm
gonna have myself a little bank account. And I'm you know,
you want to see you know, I mean I'm married
for love or money. You can marry for either, but
I think that both are valid. You know, I think
(34:53):
it's okay to marry for money. I think it's okay
to marry for love as long as you know what
you're doing with that money.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
I don't think about that able to marry for money.
I actually had like an opportunity to get with somebody
who was like super like, well long, yeah, and I
just was like I like that. I just like, don't.
I don't have the energy to fake the funk. Like
if I'm not present, then yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
If you have to fake it. But I feel like
if I'm on a trip to Italy, I'll fake it.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
The greatest audition.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
For first class love.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Give me those towels, give me that warm towel on
my face.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
I'll figure it out. I'll figure it.
Speaker 6 (35:38):
And then it's like when you're next to him, I'm
gonna put the window.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
I mean, as long as they're a dope person, like,
don't be an abusive situation. That would suck. But like
also somebody like listen, somebody's men that be marrying younger.
They understand like they're not the catch, Like you understand, yes,
you know what's happening?
Speaker 2 (35:58):
You know what's up? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (35:59):
You want you want to feel a little whatever. They
need to feel a little something. So we're in this
business partnership together.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Yeah, but what if they were like, it's monogamous though
for me, yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
That would not work. That would work. I know that
about me that would work. It would but for me
that would not work.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Okay, So let's say that, like, let's say it's marrying
for money, but it's monogamous, it better be a.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Lot of money.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
I get married here, yeah, the future.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
I'm not signing, no pre up or nothing.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
That's what I mean.
Speaker 6 (36:33):
My parents house first, and give them each ten dollars.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
But the thing about the marry for money thing that
I've continued to learn from watching housewives is you got
to ask questions about where that money is coming from.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
Okay, I'm watching New Jersey.
Speaker 6 (36:48):
Yeah again Okay, And you can feel Teresa's husband getting
more and more upset because the baptism that they had
for their youngest daughter was like a whole wedding, and he's.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Like, Theresa, do we really be the and we don't,
and we don't.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
I'm like I kind of like that, though, but do
we have that kind of money.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
That's what I'm saying, Like, I want to know where
that If you have a lot of money, I want
to know where that money is coming from. And I
got questions.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
I will say.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
I did go on a date with this guy once
who was older, attractive, gentleman. He is a doctor, but
oversees the doctors across like the county, so he's like
the doctors is a doctor, and went to his beautiful
house in the hills. We made it right onto the
Lusbila's Hills and I have never been in a house
like that.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
It was like, holy shit, I'm up there.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
I did go home, and I did plan out my
entire life, and I was like, I went on my
balcony in my apartment and I had like a Navita
moment where I was just looking at my subjects.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
If he married the money, you have to have an
exit plan.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
You know, for my people, like just like but then
I think he liked I think he told me that
he did date men of color. But he also mentioned
that like they all had like drug problems, and so
I was like, Oh, you want somebody who's like not
fully present. Yeah, yeah, see, I don't like that.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
You're not.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Kind of scared me because I was like, you know,
sometimes he's like your come on, yeah, love, don't I know?
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Me and Liz, Me and Liz back there, don't we know?
Speaker 6 (38:22):
Elizabeth to the astrology portion of the podcast, Okay, do you.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Know your big three?
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Yes, I'm a Taurus sun, Pisces moon, Sagittarius rising.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
Oh my god, well okay, I feel that Pisces. Okay,
double aries, double square.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Son. Yeah, a lot of.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
You're but I also feel the Sagittarius because I feel
like maybe you're Taurus and your Pisces like can keep
you kind of like mellow, but the Sagittarius is like,
let's go grow energy.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
Yeah, be the show girl.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Who's the one?
Speaker 1 (39:02):
And those three the sad probably yeah, whist it's too
like not lazy, but just like home tired.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
And when thes is like love what Pce is emotional?
Speaker 4 (39:15):
Icey's moons.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
We just had a new moon in our sign, didn't we.
Speaker 6 (39:21):
Gosh, my mom's a Pisces moon, Sagittarius sun. I'm just
always do not drown yourself, please, Yeah, don't get lost
in it, because I mean, Pisce's moons are probably the
most psychic out of the entire Yeah, that's because it's
just wow, Like how do you feel about that?
Speaker 1 (39:42):
It's true energy vibes. It's getting stronger as I get older,
like just like being able to like feel things ten cents,
things here, things ahead of time, Okay, do us what
do you feel? I you know, I'm not I'm not okay.
Speaker 6 (40:02):
They're mostly like navigating your own emotions, like how do
you not let let it override you? And you know,
navigate like what would you have give some advice for
my mom, who's a pissy's mood who always oh.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
I feel like the key for me is meditation, Like
you have to have your own kind of spiritual grounding
so that you can get really clear about what's yours
and what's not yours. If you just kind of wake
up and go into the day, you're gonna absorb everything
and then that is just confusing. So I'm really disciplined
about waking up, Like I wake up two hours before
I have to be anywhere, before I have to leave
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the house, and that first hour is just for me
to like meditate and show and like whatever, and then
I have like a pretty you know, pretty set with
my workouts. Which is also more time for me. But
it's like without those hours for myself, I'm would be
a mess.
Speaker 11 (40:51):
Yeah, nuity ten and then you go to bed actually
like yeah, I take one of those stabbedible and I'm
out like ten, ten thirty latest and then yeah up
with like five thirty six.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
But yeah, any for anyone, Honestly, it's like what is
your spirituality? And it doesn't have to be I want
to say meditation is them to be like oh I'm
in silence. It can be, but I also always say,
like listening to Whitney Houston song's meditation, like art, engaging
with any kind of art, writing voice, noting, whatever that is.
It's just like in again, whether it's one minute, five minutes,
(41:27):
an hour, it's like intentional time that you car for
yourself daily. That's a non negotiable because you will schedule
time for everybody and everything else, even if you have
a kid, it's like everyone so you'll give. But if
you never give back to yourself, then you're truly just
a shell of yourself.
Speaker 6 (41:43):
Yeah, and what are some signs that you feel like
you gravitate towards or I guess surround yourself with.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
I'm mostly surrounded. All my besties are Aris. I have
a triple Aris bestie, but like all of my life,
they're April. I think all of them, actually bro one
of them might be March. A bunch of aries Aries
and a bunch of Pisces are in my life, and
then a couple of random I loves.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
Did you know that this is going to happen?
Speaker 2 (42:15):
I did.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
I felt that I felt before I got sorry.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
I know at the beginning, you guys.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
You were.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
I loved it. Well.
Speaker 6 (42:25):
I mean, we were talking a lot about their astrology.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
We're supposed to be.
Speaker 6 (42:31):
You were saying, in your chart, you attract a lot
of Yeah, So in.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
My chart, I'm supposed to marry a Taurus. I'm supposed
to be like, that's my and so my whole life
I always been like, oh my god, it's going to
be a Torust.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
But that's kind of the the vibe.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
But I did say earlier that I was like, my
only qualm with y'all is when it comes to being wrong.
I feel you guys have a hard time with being wrong.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
So what do you mean we have a hard time
being wrong?
Speaker 2 (43:04):
I feel like whenever I talk to it, what do
you mean i'll talk about this. I didn't notice the
change in pitch.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
I want to get into the conversation.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
I feel like when I tell my mom or my
sister or my best friend one of my best friends
like like, oh, that was kind of like I don't
think that was the best thing to do. I feel
like because to Earth signs are so we're very like
we plan things out, We're very meticulous, we're well thought out.
We don't just jump the gun with a lot of things.
(43:36):
So when somebody's like I think that was wrong, it
fucks with like a lot of data that has already
been sticking up. And so I feel like with my
with Taurus is specifically and I could be wrong.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
So this might not be you.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
I'll look at you backfedaling.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
But I feel like there's a lot of moments where
they go, oh, I think I could have done that better,
where there will be like a little moment of like regret,
because when they're confined with something, they get kind of
like like kind of like huppy, like I don't know,
they're very like stubborn in the way, but then there's
like this moment of like, oh shit, I think I
(44:14):
could have done better.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
I think I could have handled that differently.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
Versus virgos toxic virgos. I think, are they don't ever
have that? Like hmmm, like how can I say it?
Like they're worse, right, I think? But I think that
I have found that what taurus is When I'm like, hey,
I didn't think that was cool, it's like hard to
get that.
Speaker 6 (44:35):
So it's like interesting, do tauruses handle conflict in a
stubborn way?
Speaker 3 (44:40):
And you might be different because you have the pisces
and you might have the sure.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
I think that my grandmother was like a tourists. She
was rarely wrong, but like I give her credit like
she was she was actually but like if she was, yeah,
she was, like she was, she's hot. Like don't don't
get into it. I like being wrong. I like, I like, uh,
if you if you like, here's what I'll say. As
(45:08):
a tourist, I have receipts. So if you're going to
come at me and say I'm wrong, you better be
willing and ready to prove it. And if you prove it,
I'm happy to be like, oh I that up, But
don't come with no wishy washy I felt no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
Is it hard to prove it though with you, is
it hard to prove it?
Speaker 2 (45:29):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
Yeah, a little bit. The delete that don't do yet
erased that it's it's not hard because I'm willing for
(45:51):
the feedback. But like I feel like I doped my
eyes and across my t's a lot, then it's going
to be that's rare that.
Speaker 4 (46:01):
I'm wrong and that astrology.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Sometimes I am rare, but sometimes I am.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
I feel like I really don't care. I think I'm
like a B type Burgo, so I'm very liking whatever.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
It's fine.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
I'm not like to I don't have to be right.
I don't have to be ye is an impact, but
I'm I feel like I kind of get I think
one of my toxic traits is that I don't care.
Usually I would say I'm very like or whatever.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
About stuff.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
Though usually yeah, to chill, that's nothing.
Speaker 6 (46:46):
That's my I am in our dynamic, I am like
very reactive and is like, you really need to I'm like, yes.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
But that's every relationship.
Speaker 3 (46:59):
Like people are like and even when I argue with
people because I'm I'm super like mellow like, sometimes people
want that energy back and like and I think sometimes
people need that energy to feel like I care, But
I'm kind of just like, well, we're going to make
up anyways, So why am I going.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
To Wow, we should get married?
Speaker 2 (47:15):
Yeah, we've never.
Speaker 6 (47:17):
Argue final get married to.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Let's do it.
Speaker 6 (47:24):
And that concludes the astrology portion.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
Be pregnant.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
Oh my gosh, who pops in? That's what I've been
me Oh I just exposed?
Speaker 7 (47:39):
What time?
Speaker 4 (47:40):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (47:51):
What fine?
Speaker 2 (47:53):
Thank you so much? Thank you?
Speaker 6 (47:56):
Is there anything you want to promote?
Speaker 1 (47:58):
Like about my podcast is tell me something Messy comes
out every Thursday. Premieres in October. Second second season. Uh.
And my stage show ho Church. If you're in New York,
I'm doing a stage show called ho Church. H a
u X runs from October eighteenth to November eighth.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
I love that. So when are we going.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
To New York?
Speaker 1 (48:15):
Come on to New eighteen, November eight times.
Speaker 4 (48:19):
There five weeks, every single.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
Every single show done.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
I want that?
Speaker 2 (48:24):
And where can people find you? On social media?
Speaker 1 (48:26):
At Brandon Kaw Goodman or Brandon Cogoman dot com and
I'll take you everywhere.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
Brand and Kyle Goodman.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
KG love Brandon Kyle Goodman.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
And my working people find you on social media.
Speaker 6 (48:38):
You can find me at Maya in the Moment, m
A y A in the moment. Anywhere you Squirrel, what
about you Curly?
Speaker 3 (48:44):
You can find me at the Curly v Show on
Instagram and TikTok and.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
Read note what's red now?
Speaker 6 (48:53):
It was like when TikTok was about to be deleted
blue It was.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
Like a blue sky, blue sky post pin.
Speaker 11 (49:03):
Bye.
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