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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You think. Hi. I'm Mitchell Taurus. It's my first say
here at Camp Rock, and I was wondering would you
know where I could find the place to sign up
for Final Jam?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Wait, aren't you the cook's daughter? Everyone? Look, she's the
cook's daughter. I bet you're not even paying for this
camp home. Wow, you're a bit I bet you. My
name is Curly and I'm Maya.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
And welcome to the Super Secret Bestie Club podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
A super secret club where we talk about super secret things.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Yeah, like secrets that are super That's what it is.
In each episode we'll talk about love, friendship, heartbreaks, men,
and of course our favorite secrets. Get it.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Wow, you're she was a bitch? I love as Tyler low.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
So speaking Disney Villains, if you listened to the last
episode with the villains of between Tests and Sharpei from
High School Musical Tests is.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
A villain Sharpay Tests would not be here without Sharpei,
though Sharpei walked so that tests can run. And if
you were wondering if we're talking about Camp Rock, oh
we are Okay. Today we are going to be talking
about Camp Rock, which Curly just watched for the first time.
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If you heard the last episode, we talked about high
school musical. Now we're going to talk about Camp Rock.
This one is a little more involved because it has
my baby, my husband. In this lifetime I was born.
I was born to be his wife. But in this lifetime,
I'm just I'm a fan. You know, I'm just supposed
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to be a fan. I'm wearing a Camp Rock shirt
right now that I wear Fos Brothers concert. We're going
to get into it because this has a lot to
do with current pop culture things as well. Demi Lovato
just released and directed and made and starred in her
own documentary about child actors and talked a lot about
this movie.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I need to go watch it now.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yes, you know, I think it's on Hulu. Let me see.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
This is for you listeners too, so you guys can
go home and watch it too. After this you I
find you are sweet, But.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I'm yes, Hulu, Hulu and Disney plus Perfect. Yes, it's
called Child Star and Raven is in it. Alison Stoner
who is also in Camp Rock, Keenan from Kenan and
Kel and SNL and all that. So Camp Rock follows
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Mitchie Taurus does an inspiring singer who attends the prestigious
music camp, Camp Rock Ya. Her mother is the camp's cook,
so she gets either a discount or she gets in
for free. Because of that, they're supposed to be Latina. Meanwhile,
it follows also Shane Gray, who's a part of Connect three,
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the Jonas Brothers, the Jonah's Brothers, Oh God Sorry. Basically,
they send Shane Gray, who is like a Brady pop star,
to Camp Rock to rediscover his music for Passion. He
overs here Mitchie's singing, he doesn't know it's her, and
then they try to like find his passion for music.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Yes, what I say, I think I think you said
his music for passion?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I think, oh do you understand? You understand what I say?
What I'm you say what I understand? So so basically
Mitchie like lies throughout this whole movie to fit in,
and there's some people who like call her out, like
her bestie in the movie who plays is Listen stoner Y.
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Then she finally you know, she just loves music, and
Shane through watching this girl love music, it ignites something
within himself, humbles himself, and then you know they have
the final song and then they don't kiss, not until
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can't walk to so this is basically the movie. Movie
starts out, you know Demi Levado singing whoa ho ho?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Bodippe didn't like right out of the gate, what are
you thinking.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
My first impression Demi? Okay, this is somebody who does
not know Demi at all outside of like kind of
the tabloid headlines, right, Like, I'm not familiar with her music.
I didn't even know that she could sing until I
saw her like sing a song with Jojo recently. Like
I didn't understand the sort of like vocals that we
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were working with, and I'm not sure that I understood
the sort of vocals that we were working with from
a very young age. Like she really shines in this
movie in a way that I just wasn't really expecting,
in a way that I was kind of like, wait,
this is like a really really talented individual, Like she
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and adorable, Like she's so likable, she's so lovable, she
has this wonderful, huge big smile, Like she immediately is likable, relatable,
and you kind of fall in love with her. Like
from the jump, this one felt a little bit more
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accessible to me as well, in ways that high school
musical didn't like this one felt younger to me, and
this one felt like they looked their age in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
You know, Demi was fifteen when she did this, and
I was like eighteen. Nick was like, uh, same age
as Demi, and then Kevin is a little older. I
think he was like twenty or twenty one. So basically,
to zoom out a little bit in the context of
pop culture in the world at the time it came
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out June twentieth, two thousand and eight, the Jonas brothers
were already a thing. They were already popping. And then
Demi Levado was besties with Selena Gomez since Barney the
Barney Days, both Disney girls. Obviously, Selena had Wizards of
Wave really places, and she was also on Hannah Montana,
so she already had her thing going. Demi was in
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a little small show. It was like little bite sized
shows in between commercials called Before the Bell Rings or
as the Bell Rings, and she like sang on there
and this was like before she closed her gap, and
I remember watching her being like, I'm obsessed with her,
Like that is exactly what I want to do, That
is exactly like who I want to be, Like I've
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straight my hair for sure, because I like was obsessed.
And then camp Rock came out and I was like,
holy shit, like it blew my fucking mind because I
was just starting out high school or I was like
my freshman or sophomore year, and seeing like and I
loved music, I was like I identified with this movie hardcore
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because you know, I learned how to make music and
do music for my dad, like growing up like home homegrown,
And it really felt like I was watching a reflection
of myself, like and who I wanted to be on
screen because she was in her bedroom starting out like
making music herself, and like, you know, I always I
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actually went to a music camp with my dad. My
dad taught at a music camp to these like bratty
snotty kids, and like I I wasn't a part of
the class because I'd like it was just kind of
a babysitting type of thing, but he would still teach
like the basics of music. But I remember I was
just like, am I watching my life right now? Like
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it was so good? And then of course mixed in
with the Jonas brothers, like I just want to know, also,
what did you think about the Jonas brothers acting.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
I mean, I think in terms of thinking about any
of their acting throughout, I wasn't necessarily like impressed in
that sort of way, right, I'm not really here for
the acting. I'm here for a little bit more of
like the story.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
But it was it like like cause the whole thing
about Camp Rock and everything is like that their acting
was kind of bad like that, Kevin's acting was atrocious.
He played like the okay. And then also like a
little side note, they ended up having a show after
Camp Rock called Jonas and it was I mean, they
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say that they're embarrassed still to this day that they
ever did the show. But I really liked it. I
really liked the show. It was like music. They would
sing songs and like comic comedic songs, and but the
acting was like not the best. So that was like
a little thing from like that, Like Joe, I feel
like Joe Jonas did his thing, and I feel like
his hair was actually the main character.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
So that was the other thing too, Like watching the show,
watching the movie, they flat iired right, like that's not
their natural texture.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
So okay, here's no it was so okay. Shane Gray's hair,
Joe Jonas's hair was long and straightened. It became straightened.
He has naturally all their naturally curly hair.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
It uh, I know flat iron straight hair. When I
say they straightened it.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
And put a little bit of like molding in it,
and same thing with Kevin. Yes, yeah, they for sure.
That was one of the facts on here that it
became one of the standout looks stand as in the movie.
Fans loved it. However, the Jones brothers often joke that
Joe's hair in Camp Rock was a wild choice in retrospect.
I don't think it was a wild choice. I think
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it was perfect. Okay, you want to talk about hair
Demi's bangs.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
That hair was kind of like the style of the time,
like and the way that the TikTokers do their hair
like forward now and it's all like here, that's what
people were looking like back then. That's kind of like
that was what I think we used to call it,
like the uh, it was kind of like the hipster
look like it was always called scenestirs. This was the
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scenester hair. This was like scene kid hair.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Like.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I don't think that it was a bad choice at all.
He was kind of maybe going with what was big
at the time. But I don't remember Demi's bangs in.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
This Yes she has bangs. She has like, uh, pretty
prominent bangs. What did you think about her bestie? Her
bestie Allison Stoner?
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Okay, so in my in my notes in that one.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
In that iconic scene where she's like and then Demi's like,
she's really cun so.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Alison Soner to me in the movie felt really weird.
I was like, she's weird, Like she felt kind of
corny to me, like mad love to her. I don't
know her like, but the character, I was like, she's weird.
And then you know they kind of in the movie,
Demi or Mitchie kind of like wants to be part
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of like the popular girl group, right, so she joins
tests and these two other girls. I think later on
we find out that one of the other girl's name
is like Margaret or some shit. But like Demi wants
to join the popular girl So she lies about her
being the daughter of this cook and she pretends to
be by the way Elowel. She pretends to be the
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daughter of a woman who who is like the president
or something.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Hot Tunes TV.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Hot Tunes TV, which is a company from China, right,
which what was Hot Tune TV? Anyways?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I don't know. I think it was just like a
made up thing.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
But I guess what I was trying to get at
is like, is it like a TikTok because it was
like a Chinese owned because remember TikTok was called what
like musically before?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
So I was it was like a like a MTV.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Okay, So I was like trying to be like okay
because when they talked about China, like oh I got
this in China, I'm like, yeah, girl, cut to twenty
twenty four where everything we owned is from China, you
know what I mean? Like there was no but in
the movie it was pretty funny that they were like, oh,
that's so cool it's from China. Like I want to go.
Alison Soner's character was really interesting to me. When she
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finds out that Mitchie is the daughter of the chef,
they have this like exchange. Mitchie is accused of sealing
a bracelet. Did they ever find who sold that bracelet
by the way, or where was it? Did she high was?
Does she make it up?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Uh? She didn't steal it? Tests Like didn't she plot
that or something?
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Yeah? But Test plotted it. But I don't know if
she like lost it or if if it was like
I didn't. I guess I missed the part where like
what happened to the charm bracelet? But so Alison's owner
ends up finding out the true identity of Mitchie. Then
there's like this like character moment where Test makes fun
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or interrupts Allison's like performance, and she's like she yells
like snake or something, and she does this thing on
her head where she goes like it's like this like.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Major oh something, what whatever? Major loser?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah, but it's like on her head, so she goes,
what what what whatever ever? Major loser, But she doesn't
say anything. She just goes like this, don't don't, don't
don't And the other girls are like, oh, like that
means whatever, major loser. And then Demi defends her new
friend Alison Stoner and is like, oh my god, nobody
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told you that that was old Like ill like, maybe
still do that. Here's my thing. Do you think that
Demi's character Mitchie did that as a moment of growing
in her character or was she doing it to save
her ass?
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Save her ass? No, I think she was trying to
get back at. She was finally kind of a little
bit sticking up for herself.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Because to me also was like if somebody found out
my secret like that, I would probably try to do
something to be nice to that person too, so that
that she did so that they don't leak the story.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
I thought she was she. I thought she did that
two test Tyler like while you're still doing that, like
that's so old, and then she like walks away, she like, yeah,
that in defense of Alison Stoner.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
No, That's what I'm saying though. But is it in
defense or was it to defend Alice or was it
to kind of impress Alison said Alison wouldn't leak the secret.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
No, it was in defense. I think she was finally like,
you know, like fuck these people. Like I don't think
she she was being a little fake, but I think
at that moment she was not. She was just kind
of like, you know what, like I'm defending my girl now. Yeah,
I didn't take it as that. I don't think it
was that a.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Little bit like me like a little like, oh so
now all this sudden, you guys are popping balloons with
each other and you guys are best friends because she
knows your dirty little secret and she's gonna tell the
whole camp.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Is there's an acceptance there that Alice. She sees that
Alison is accepting her knowing this secret and is like
I don't care, like I don't give a fuck, Like
she's kind of Mitchie realizes like, oh, there is somebody
that sees value in me and doesn't think this is
embarrassing because she's like, so what your mom works in
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the kitchen? Like who cares? Like that's really cool?
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Like which also like so in real life, I feel
like we'd all be like so what, Like.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I'd be like, uh, you're a lucky girl, like you
don't have to You guys don't have to or they
get a discount on it.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
I guess, yeah, well I look, I'd be in there
be like can you sneak us some cookies? Can we
go in there? Can we What else is back there?
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Did you see the Shane Gray, the Joe Jonas when
he got out of the pool.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
I didn't the water? No? Why was I what was
he like shirtless? Or what?
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yes? He gets he gets out of the lake shirtless,
and it's like when everybody is like trying to sing
to him.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yeah, he's like trying to find the voice, and everyone's
like la la la. That scene changed my brain chemically,
and I have never been the same since.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Also, there's a scene where all the girls are coming
up to him and like singing to be the girls.
There's a trio of three black girls that come up
to him with the best fucking harmonies that I'm like,
give it to them, what are you talking about over here?
Where are you going? How are you not? Like I
would have like, and he jumps in the water, and
I'm like I would have turned around and been like, absolutely,
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you just harmonize the shit out of my song.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
This movie is iconic because it has and it has
become a meme because it is cringey, Like did you
notice cringe?
Speaker 1 (17:55):
I feel like they both made me cringe. I feel
like that's all Disney movies, So I don't know that.
I feel like I went in there expecting not to cringe.
I went in there with the open mind of it
was going to be camp. This is high camp stuff,
like this is camp for little kids, you know. I
don't mean like going to camp. I mean like this
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is something like over the top, so bad. It's good
camp like cringed I mostly you know what was also
really interesting to me by the way the styles in
which they sing, because they're very like they put like
at the end of everything, so it's like, oh, it's
like instead of being like, uh, it's just a yeah,
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it's like it's just a cup, you know what I mean,
Like they add like the especially Nick Jonas, but everything
is yeah, everything is like camp. Is it good? See massive? Yeah,
so exactly. But I feel like that also was very
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much of the time where everybody was singing like because
now it's not due.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
That's rock, baby, that's that's rock. That's so heavy rock
right there? Okay you and n.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
New Sick sing yeah, which I just thought was really
interesting because even like Demi by the way, I said
this already, but just most beautiful smile, big old mouthful
of teeth, just here for it. I love people who
smile with all where all their teeth are visible. I
used to have that smile until I started getting like
until I got braces. Actually, when I had my braces,
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I was very like like, oh, I sound like this,
and so I felt very like nice to see her
do that.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
So I also wanted to mention Demi had a lot
of during Camp Rock when she was seventeen. After and
after Camp Rock is when she started substance abuse.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
That's crazy to me watching it now.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
So Camp Rock two came out, and you know, this
was such an iconic movie, like this shot her to stardom.
She immediately was set to go on tour to make albums.
Her albums are some of my favorite albums. She's an
amazing vocalist, amazing writer, like everything just hit, hit hit.
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She got signed on to do a TV show called
Sonny with a Chance, which was super successful as well.
But during this time, she started drinking and doing cocaine.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
And I know, it's just crazy because how is she
getting it?
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Who is exactly an adult? You know, Like I know,
I know. And during this time also, I remember when
they did the Camp Rock two tour where it was
Jonas Brothers and Demie Levado together and I remember she
came out on stage and she was like very like rough,
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like very just like in the way she was singing,
and like she seemed like almost angry, like she was
definitely on something. And I think it was the show
the next show the next night that she had uh
like an on stage fight with one of the backup dancers. Wow,
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and she physically assaulted her.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
What.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yeah. So then at eight and then that's when she
was like I need help. She had like a public breakdown.
And then when she was like eighteen, she entered rehab
for the first time, and she struggled a lot with
body imge, issues, with eating disorders, sugar warning. Instead of
a cake, they would give her like a watermelon cake.
Like that was like I think like frosting her cool
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whip and watermelon underneath because she had to be so
skinny for like it it sucks that like watching it
from a little kid point of view, where like at
the same age as her to see to know and
growing up that they struggled so much with the pressures
of like eating disorders and being exposed to substances like
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and then you see the movies and they're all like
bubblegum pop perfect, Like you know, it is like just
the contrast of that is wild to me.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah, it's also interesting too, because I think that that
just goes back to like you can't really judge a
book by its cover, right, Like for me, all I've
ever known was Demi in the headlines I've never known
her as like this, like amazing young little girl with
like exceptional talent, and to me, like knowing the judgment
that not that much judgment because I didn't really pay
attention that much, but knowing the judgment that I had,
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what was it like for other people who did know her?
Like what must that weight of judgment have felt like
to her? It's a young girl, like having so much
on her. It's interesting too because I start to think
about what her parents, like where her parents were, because
I almost feel I know that from what you've told me.
And I just watched this interview with like famous moms
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on I think it's Glamour Magazine's YouTube channel. They had
like Billie Eilish's mom, yes, yeah, and Selena Gomez's mom,
and there is a part where she shouts out her
and Demi and she talks about like how Selena Gomez
and Demi used to practice as little girls, like doing
the Mickey Mouse thing ears with like the glowstick, like
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they were just the best of friends. And so it's
really interesting to me to think that, like it sounds
like Selena had a different sort of foundation.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
I don't know, well, yes, no, for sure, I think
she was leaning a little more Christiani also, but Selena
came from a single mom. Her mom had Selena at sixteen,
named her after Selena Keithania. You know, they both her
and Demi both got there. They're both from Texas, both
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got their star on Barney and they were best best
friends even through this little feud on aable mention. Also,
I feel like I I talked about this in another
episode where it was like Mandy and Miley, Miley and
Mandy versus Demi and Selena Mandy it was like one
of she was like a background dancer or backup dancer
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from of Miley's like tour Miley and Mandy, and they
like were just you know, Damie Lovado and Selena Gomez
were very good at making YouTube videos and stuff. Same
thing with Joe Jonas and the Jones brothers, and so
they would make these videos in Miley and Mandy like
made fun of them. But you can tell that Demi
and Selena were so cute together. They were so like
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just the best of friends. And I think throughout and
Selena has talked about it a little bit, alluded to
it that over the years she just could not be
by Demi's side anymore because of everything that Demi was
going for. So they're actually not I think they're cordial,
but they're not friends anymore.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Wow. Yeah, yeah, because I feel like, you know, Demi
kind of And it's interesting what kind of seeing what
Superstytom does to anybody, but just the children especially who
are coming up in it, Like you look at somebody
like Miley. I heard somewhere someone say about Miley. They
said the other day, Miley could have been so much worse,
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and she did it. She's handled herself. She's now like
a respected musician artist, like she could have been like
way worse than what we actually saw. And so it's
interesting too because I do go like, what were the dynamics,
what was happening? What's the full story? And in watching
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this movie, it kind of goes into like I just
felt like a little bit more compassion for her. I
would say I had a moment of being like, I
have a lot to learn about this human. I don't
know anything about her, but I like felt bad in
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a lot of ways, you know, because she was just
like oh shit, you know, I literally wrote, Demi suddenly
nice to Caitlin, And we think it's like hero moment,
but what if it was just a ploy to keep
her secret? So the movie kind of is like the
whole big thing is everybody wants to perform. My understanding
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is that everybody wants to perform with this thing called
Final Jam and Final Jam. My understanding it's to win
a chance to record with Connect three, Connect three a chance.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I think they yeah, no, no, no, they are going
to record with them for.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Sure, Okay, because I was like, huh so test basically
outs Mitchie's character. Yes, Nick Jonas's character gets upset with Mitchie, which,
by the way, Nick is an asshole in this movie.
Like I did not there was not a single moment
outside of one scene where he's singing with this little
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guitar by the water and the wind is blowing in
his face and there's suddenly like backup singers singing with him.
Like that was the moment that I was like, WHOA, Like,
I can see why people fell in love with him.
Oh and then when the three of them come out
to perform, I had to stop what I was doing
because I was like totally into their performance. I was like,
oh my god, yeah, they're so mesmerizing. They go to
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final jam. It's a whole big performance. There is this
moment where what sorry, I forget to the moment Margaret wins. Margaret,
one of the trio of the Mean Girls, comes out.
She wins because she sings. She sings guitar. That's my
favorite song in the whole movie, by the way, that
song was so good. Yeah, she almost staids crying. I
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almost said crying.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Do you see that the guitar wasn't plugged in at all?
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Oh no, I didn't see that. Oh well, you know anyway,
So then I just was like, what a sweet moment.
And then I'm waiting for like Mitchie and her uh
and her moment to go and sing. Right, she's disqualified
though she's disqualified, but they there was a loophole like
you have to wait till the end of what's it
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called the final gem. So she goes up there she sings.
I don't know if you remember this, but it's a
split second of Joe Jonas turning around in slow motion
and it's like whow and he's like, that's the that's
the song, that's the and then his brothers go, is
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that the girl And they're like, duh, that's the girl,
but I was kind of like, oh, that is what
I wanted. I think that's where if I was a
young kid watching that movie, I would be waiting for
the rest of my life for a man to turn
around in slow motion and realize that he was in
love with me.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Did you see the Disney knees?
Speaker 1 (29:17):
The Disney way, the Disney knees? What is that?
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Denny?
Speaker 1 (29:21):
If I think I did? Okay, uh huh where they Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:26):
No, no, no, it's like the knees turn in.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
I can't do it, my my, It's like I can't
do it. It's like here, here's your feet and then your
knees are like this, Oh my god, let me.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
See it's the Disney knees.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
I did see that, and I yes, yes, and I
did notice that I did. It's funny because I didn't
even know this meme existed, but I noticed those those knees. WHOA.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
So then when Demi comes out and she's like, I've
always been the kind of girl, what are you thinking?
Hit my face? I was thinking that the world.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Everything that I was saying, like what a wonderful voice
would be a beautiful song, you know. Then there's like
this just big musical number where they're all on stage,
they're all performing, it's just amazing, and then she kind
of hits like this like long belt with a little
bit of like a run in it.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yeah, yea, yeah yeah. I was like, oh my god,
can run girl.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
But they took the camera off of her for some
reason in that part, and I'm like, why not keep
it on her like hit that.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Run because they had to because Joe Jonas had to
be introduced and then he what did you think about
when he goes you're the fools cute sad?
Speaker 1 (31:06):
I mean, look, I think that there's a part of
me that it will always be a twelve year old
gay kid, and I think that I was like if
that was me, and William ran, Oh.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
My goodness watching that. You know, this movie in high
school musical, but mostly Camp Rock changed my fucking life.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Like I think I enjoyed Camp Rock more.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
It changed my life because I really loved music. I
also really fucking loved the Jones Brothers, and I loved
seeing a girl good like with some talent yeah who
like was just so inspiring and funny, like so like
her comedic timing in this movie and especially in her
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series studying with a chance is impeccable. I just I
loved that end. And then like, did you notice, like
when they were done singing and they were just looking
at each other and they were.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Like this.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
I did at time they were They held that for
a long time and I was like, are they going
to give? Are they going to give?
Speaker 1 (32:17):
And they didn't care.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Didn't kiss. They don't kiss until the next movie.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Wow. Wow, I have to say that overall, I really
enjoyed these movies. I really enjoyed Camp Rock. I enjoyed
High School Musical. I definitely am going to watch part
two of both.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Can I say honorable mention? Because I'm too cool?
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Too cool? Too cool?
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I don't know, ye remember that part?
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Oh my god, the shoulders such a good song.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Don't think somebody spread a rumor that she dislocated her
shoulder to do that move, and she came out recently
She's like, I didn't dislocate my shoulder because it's like this.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Dude, it's so funny, Like I know I've been watching assholes.
There was a scene that scene where she's singing that song,
Wait when it's her, When Tessa's singing her song at
the final jam and her mother, god forbid, answers her
cell phone, and Tessa's entire performance is just messed up and.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
The mirrors and she's like pointing at the mirrors.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Yeah, but I died so hard because I feel like
nowadays it would be like if your mom was texting
and you just saw her texting the whole time, Like
that might make you feel weird. But I feel like
your mom on the phone.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
I just like when she falls and she was and
she looks up and the mom is like gives her
like a disapproving look, and then she runs off stage.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Did you think it was a disapproving look? I felt
like her mom kind of knew that she had hurt
her feelings.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
No. I took it as a seat watching different movies.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well then she goes to go
hide in a corner and she just balls. She just cries.
So then you start to go like, so there's a
sweet girl in there.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Yes, there is. She She like tells Margaret at the end,
like you did really good. But then the second movie,
she's still a fucking bitch. There's a rival camp and
she's in the rival camp.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Wow, that's that's when Caro goes.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Camp Rock.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Wow, they certainly could have used you for sure, and
they have.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
I'm still available for the reboot available.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Is there going to be a reboot?
Speaker 2 (34:52):
I don't. Oh no, no, I don't think so. I
don't think so at all. Anyway, let's go to the
astrology portion of the podcast. Let's talk about the actors
zodiac signs. What I just want to know? What do
you think Demie Levado is.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Off the top of her DEMI feels to me like
she might be either a water sign or a fire sign.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
She's a fire sign. Okay, I use your psychic abilities.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
I feel like she's giving me either Leo or Aris.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
She's a Leo. Wow, yeah, geez. But she's August twentieth,
so she's a bit of a cusp, A tiny, tiny
bit of a cusp. Joe Jonas is do you want
to guess what he is?
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Joe Jonas is, you can do this, You got this.
I feel like he's either a air sign or a water sign.
He's a oh yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Kevin Jonas is what do you think Kevin is?
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Kevin is an air sign.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
He's a scorpio.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Oh man, right when I thought I was psychic too.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Nick Jonas. You got this one.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
He's an air sign.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
One more, one more chance, you got this in the bag?
You got Okay?
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Wait so Nick? Wait? Joe is a Leo fire sign.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Yes, is a scorpio Nick Jonas.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
And then Nick is I also feel like Nick would
be like a water sign.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
He's a virgo.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Oh wow, of course he is.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
He is in just in their dynamic as a super fan.
Joe is like such a freaking he annoys Nick so much,
like they've always said that Nick was like a little man,
and he's always been so freaking serious since forever. His
birthday is September sixteenth.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
I kind of feel like young Nick Jonas looks like
my little nephew Joshua, like with the curly hair and
the similar eye shape. I was like, joshuaa looks like
a young Nick Jones, Like they look like related. And
Joshua also is like a little man.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
What do you think Meghan Martin, who plays Test Tyler,
what do you think she is? It's kind of hard
to tell as their characters.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I think I knew Demi
because I know Demi's like like tabloid stuff.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
I don't know, Meghan Martin is an Aquarius.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
She's probably the nicest out of all of them, I
bet you.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Yeah. She just did actually an interview on a podcast
that's under Micutura Podcast Network. Wow, and she was talking
about the shoulder thing. Also, a lot of these like
channel stars are still on TikTok and stuff, which I love.
But yeah, and so, actually, I don't know if you
knew this, but Demi and Jojonas actually dated.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Oh wow.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Yes, they dated around the time of Camp Rock two
for a couple months or maybe closed to a year,
but it was a couple months. It was kind of
I think it was because she started going down a
different path.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Oh shit.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yeah, yeah, because I think I think that the whole
fight was alleged that this back backup dancer was like
kind of like flirting with Jojonas a little bit or
like something with that. But yes, so, I mean who
(38:47):
didn't Jojonahs day love you love you boo. He hasn't
dated me yet.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
He is he like a toxic like he's kind of
toxic con.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Oh my baby boy, my bit. Yeah. I know everybody
is screaming right now. They're saying, yeah, because he dated
he broke up with Taylor Swift on like a five
second phone call.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
With her. Then Hey, I don't think that we're good together.
I think we should break up. Okay, okay bye, And.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Then Taylor wrote all these songs about him and then yeah,
he's dated like a bunch of girls. But yeah, that
Demi and Joe, you know it was it was amazing.
There's like one or two pictures of them, like cuddling
or hugging and stuff. Super cute, but like a Leo
dating a Leo. You know, that's who's gonna take.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
The reins are now still like cool, they're still cordial.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
They're still cordial. They're all still friends, like even after
everything happened. Nick Jonas especially has wrote on a lot
of songs for Demi's album and vice versa. Like they're
in each other's you know, they're creatively like they have
always supported each other.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
They have.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
The Jonahs' brothers have never said anything mean about Demi
Lovado at all, Like I think you know who knows
behind the scenes, like what how everything transpired? But after
Camp Rock two, that was kind of the beginning of
the downfall or beginning of the end of like this era.
And because also like Demi was doing this movie called
(40:29):
Protection or Princess Protection Program with Selena Gomez. That was
like she was doing movies, she was doing tours, she
was doing albums. She was like in the documentary I
think it's called Child Star on Hulu, she talks about
how they just packed up her schedule and everybody was
just kind of okay with it because I think this
(40:51):
generation was the first, one of the first of its
kind to really hit it big. So they're like trying
to suck the money out of them, you know.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Wow, yea, and in turn.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Your body is gonna break down and you're gonna give
into influence, you know. So I always like, I have
a big, big place in my heart for Demie Levado,
even though she's like, you know, she's a little coookie girl,
which I love her. I love her for that, but
like she is really one of the staples of She's
(41:26):
really that girl. She's like one of the staples of
Disney Channel with true true talent.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Wow. Also, is Joe Jonas now dating Demi Moore?
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Demi? That's what I heard.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Also, well, you know she's beautiful, so why not?
Speaker 2 (41:48):
And that concludes the astrology portion. What you what do
you think about this.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Ride, this camp, I really enjoy It was a great
way to get me to like relax out of like
my daily schedule and like watch something that was light
and fun and nostalgic and also just like you know,
allowed my heart to open up for these actors in
a more compassionate way, in a way of kind of
(42:17):
understanding like especially with us too, like we've had such
a long journey in entertainment that we get to go
like and clearly like not at the same way as
they did, but also just kind of like, oh, I
get it, and I see like I feel like I
grew up on the internet for ten years, like where
people watched me since I was twenty six years old,
twenty five years old, and I can't imagine being fifteen
(42:39):
or eighteen and having that sort of like attention.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
And yeah, not only that, but like how many Like
I remember I would make videos at sixteen, and there
was like a couple of videos that I had made
that my parents were like, hey, this sounds offensive and
clearly was just something that people at school were saying
that I thought was funny. But they were like, take
that video down and educated me on why certain things
(43:03):
were not okay. And I can't imagine at that time
being scrutinized, you know, as a child actor and maybe
not having parents who are focused on that or have
time to give you that kind of attention, like I
think with High School Musical and camp rock and all
of these other things. Like I hope that it's better now.
(43:25):
I know. Demi Levado actually let me one a second,
let me I forgot what law it.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
Is when it's not a right, when it's not okay.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
So Demi Levado actually signed she signed a legislation to
protect financial security of child influencers, which is like, what
an amazing way to for protection, you know, like that
was not around when I was growing up as a
as you know, a mini child creator, native influencer. I
(44:01):
mean I don't needed it, but yeah, so she signed
it in to legislation like that, that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Good for her.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
MITCHI has come along, Mitchie Thoris.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
It sounds kind of oh.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
So out of five stars, five being the best thing
you've ever seen in your freaking life, what would you
give it? You gave High School Musical four point five.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
I would give this a four. I would give this
a four.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Afore you liked it but you said you liked it more.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Than more than high school musical, But I will. I'm
always going to be a sucker for high school politics.
It's my favorite genre.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
I know, yeah, yeah, high.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
School anything, high school drama, high school politics. It's my
favorite thing to read. It's my favorite thing. I'm convinced
that we actually never leave high school, and everywhere that
you work, everywhere that you walk, will always be a
high school. So I'll give it a give this one
a four because I never to camp, so I don't
know what this is. It's just authentic or not.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Yeah, I've never been to like a proper camp like that.
But this movie. You have to watch the sequels to
both of these movies and Hashe Musical.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
Three.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
We'll check back. Thank you so much everyone for listening
to another episode of the Super Secret Bestie Club podcast.
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Speaker 2 (45:32):
You can find me at Maya in the moment everywhere
where ye scroll love you. We Ron Camp Rock.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
Ma'am, go home, ma'am. This is the camp for twelve
year olds, Camp Rock.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
I'm like slopping my knees, get into these Disney knees.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
Just locating your shoulders. Sing you're in jail. You're like
your knees are altogether and your shoulders at the black.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
I'm actually in a coma anyway, Love you bye. Make
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