We Try To Seduce Garrett Watts!

Overnight (ok just for an hour) in an EXTREMELY super secret bestie club house (ok a recording studio) witch internet personality Garrett Watts! We get to explore his mind and heart with Curly and Maya (did you know he broke both's hearts btw hehe?) 

Maya Murillo and Curly Velásquez are the hosts of the Super Secret Bestie Club with production support by Karina Riveroll of Sonoro Media in partnership with iHeart Radio's My Cultura Podcast network. If you want to support the podcast, please rate and review our show!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
O, what was that? My god, I think it's a ghost.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Oh, I think that's Garrett Watts.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Yeah, it's the full grown man. What right here, Garrett?

Speaker 1 (00:12):
What are you doing in an abandoned house behind my house?

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Pretty sure it's a pretty nice podcast set, and that
I'm drinking a good and gathered Yuzuo Mandarin.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Oh okay, well, get in here.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
My name is Curly and I'm Maya, and welcome to
the Super Secret Bestie Cloud Podcast. A super secret club
where we talk about super secret things.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yeah, like secrets that are super that's what it is.

Speaker 4 (00:38):
In each episode we'll talk about love, friendship, heartbreaks, men,
and of course our favorite secrets.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Get in here, Welcome to the Super Secret Bestie Club Podcast.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
This episode sponsored by Yuzoo Mandarin, zero gallery, zero carbe
no no.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
I mean the original intro included a crack joke in there,
and then Garrett said he didn't know.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
What crack was, and so you say crackpipe, crackpipe.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Oh, I said crackpipe.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Well, there was there was a really specific thing happening
about crumble. And then you said, I.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
Was picturing you in an empty house. And then I said,
put that crackpipe down.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
And you really know what that was, which is which
is great.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
We don't want you to know what crackpipe is.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
No, I know what that is. I've seen television shows.
Oh breaking bed.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Okay, yeah, you're familiar with crack friends. Well, none of
us are on crack here. I just wanted to say anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Just kidding. I've never done crack in my life.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
How's it going you two having phone?

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yes, we are excited to have you in our universe.
We have a lot in store for you.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Oh I like preparedness.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Oh yeah, we're well, we're half prepared. We like to
say we're.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
Very loosey goosey on here. This is just meant to
be a chat with best friends. And by the way,
where everybody it's meant to be like a safe space.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
So if you.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
Exactly, we just did keep it moving if you want
to keep it moving safe space.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah, oh thanks goodness.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
I need to talk about politics because I just am
really so excited for.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Unless it's a political theater, unless it's a play about you.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Said it was a safe space. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
We want to know about like rashes, We want to
know about weird smell. We want to know like what
do you like smell like and look like in the morning.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
You're seeing it. Baby, I just woke up.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Did you just wake up?

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Did you really? Isn't your hair hours too?

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Right? It's my hair when I wake up. Yes, wow,
this is my hair when I write that too.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
How's your spirit?

Speaker 3 (02:44):
My spirit's good, it's strong. It's trying all the time.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
It's a trying time.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
No, No, I didn't mean like that.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
I mean it's always trying to be well and good. Okay,
and show up in front of people and go, what's
your saying again, Gemini?

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Okay, let's row nice.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
I didn't see that. We have an astrology section. We'll
get to that, Leah.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Okay, because I had a lot to say on that too.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
Well.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Okay, So for our viewers who don't know you, when
I'm chat GBT, I well, a lot of people know you.
I I just.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Get so self conscious and start crying. Who wouldn't know me?
Just a breakdown like he didn't know you. I actually
can't stand when people feel that way, like, well, I
won't go on a tangent about that, but I like
sometimes when someone takes a photo with you in public,
the other person there with will be like I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
I don't know who you are, and.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
We get that all this switches and they're like, they're
usually like, I don't sorry, I don't know you. Yeah,
like I don't know you.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
I don't care that energy. But I always tell them,
I'm like, why should you where everyone's requirement? Everyone's on
the internet. Now there's internet is big, there's a trilliant creators.
Like that's the beauty of what I do. I love
being in my little lane where only like a couple
of weirdos on the internet know me, and then.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
A couple three million subscribers on YouTube. I think a
lot of people are gonna know you.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Well, no, thank you, I'll take. I'll take. That's very sweet.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Thank you, So chat GBT said Garrett Watts is a
popular American YouTuber celebrated for his comedic vlogs and DIY content.
I thought that was interesting.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah, I mean I think that's interesting as well.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Because I don't remember you doing DIY.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
I don't know what kind of DIY.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Here's the thing, I don't know if I even really
know what that means. I mean, I know it's do
it yourself, but I mean I don't know. I don't know.
I really don't.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Well, because so to take it back a little bit,
we met through Vine. Yeah, a long, long time ago,
and we have a lot of mutual friends. Matt real
love you so much.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
Older you guys, when you guys met for the first time,
do you remember, Well, we're sixteen now I'm seventeen, So
I think, yeah, so I don't know.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
I don't kids practically, Okay, I uh, dude, Vine. My
social all my social network is still from Vine. I
love that so much, pretty much, I'd say not all myself,
Like seventy percent of everyone I know out here is
through Vine.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Right, Well, I remember first meeting you. You invited me
and one of my friends to your uncle's house.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Fun you remember, Yeah, my uncle's house is beautiful.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
It was beautiful. It was like a big pool. And
then we met some other notorious people.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
Actually, well, luckily for me, I have no idea who
you're talking about, because those days were very interesting because,
like I'll look back at a photo of because you know,
we've all sort of come up together on the internet.
Some of us have kind of moved out of la
some of us have you know, grown on the internet.
And it's funny because I will find a photo of, like,
you know, twelve of us together, and when I tell

(05:43):
you the energy of those twelve people in a room,
I will be like, oh yeah, I won't name names,
but I'll be like, at what point, like people who
have become quite scandalous now where people have become huge,
or people have become really really talented and amazing, or
people has become rockstar musicians, or people who just kind
of I go, oh, I forgot about that, you know

(06:04):
what I mean. Wow, But you'll see these I have.
I have dozens and dozens and dozens of photos like
this in my phone.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
I love that so much.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
That reminds me of like the old Studio fifty four
photos that you would see like a Grace Jones, like
a Mick Jagger together, like riding.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
On a horse.

Speaker 4 (06:17):
Yes, And it's kind of amazing because you're like, exactly that,
like all these people were in the same room at
the same time.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Like that's pretty yes, I mean yeah, we have.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
To get in front of the fact that we just
equated ourselves to Grace Jones and Mick Jagger.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
Well, I just it's I think like a lot of
young people who did grow up on the internet will
kind of look at people on the Internet in that
sort of way, right, like, oh, that's so cool.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
They didn't know that they knew each other.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Oh that that does happen very often. My my good
friend Ricky Montgomery, we had like a Twitter interaction and
everyone was like, and again, if you're listening to this
right now or you two have no idea who Ricky is?

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Oh I do I love Ricky? Yeah, skyrocketed musician, very talented.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Yeah, but they were like, oh my god, the crossover
I never thought would happened. And I was like, we
basically used to live together for years. Yeah, you know,
but it is funny because it's like, of course they
wouldn't know that, and that's and that's a fun moment
for them. And I see that happening sometimes with musicians
that I love. I'll be like, oh, you know, James
Blake knows it what whatever. I won't sound pretentious, but
like it's like, how do they know each other? Oh?

(07:17):
We went to college together, you know, so.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
I love that.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
And to that, it's like when you find out that
a song that you like was co written by like
another artist that you really enjoy too, and you're like well,
like Nelly for Tato has this song called Wide Well
good Things Come to an End and it's with her
and Timbaland, which we knew, but also Chris Martin from
Cool Play No Way help write that song too.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
So you're like you always have the best music knowledge.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Well who would make who would know?

Speaker 4 (07:41):
Nellie Totto, Timberland and Chris Martin would be in the
track together and you'd be like, Oh, this is great,
this is a good song.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
That is so cool.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
That sounds like a lot of fun like an era
I I for me, I was never part of like
the vine era, Like I'm an accidental Internet person, like
I didn't I think you know this, but I kind
of got discovered at but in BuzzFeed's kitchen, like I wasn't.
I didn't know how to do a lot of that stuff.
And I remember we would get some viners coming in
and they would tell me about it, and I'm like,
that's fucking wild, bro, Like you guys do.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
What on vine second?

Speaker 4 (08:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (08:10):
I know, Like and it's it's so it's so nice
to hear it.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
And I love too that there's a very niche audience
now that when you bring up Vine. You can see
a little like like glitter in their eye, like.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah, like I forgot.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
I was talking to the other day. I was like, oh, Vine,
and they were like all right, real it was.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
It was such an amazing experience, Like I feel like
it just built community for us, and like, how do
you feel now looking back?

Speaker 3 (08:38):
I loved it. I loved it so much. It was
uh yeah, I mean it was. It was great. It
was It was just a bunch of listen community and
anything is amazing. Anytime you get like minds together, you
know with one goal, you're going to get lifelong friendships.
That's the thing.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
I love that. Yeah, we had that.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
I think we I mean, that's happened to us, Like
we started this penal team that just kind of I
think what I would equate it to is like I
call this like the Latino Digital Renaissance, where we were
like with a bunch of different Latin people from like
all over the country who were like poets or creators
or singers and or whatever it was, and we were
all in it together like talking about our culture for

(09:18):
the first time.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
And so it's kind of like, no, no, you're right, like community.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
Don't explain that to me. I'm deeply in those circles
of part of that.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
I am not no, no, no, I'm saying, like, you know.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
It's nice that like wait, this is a video podcast.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
You're talking about.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
Community, Like, oh yeah, we had that like that community too,
And you're right, like these do become lifelong people because
you're like, oh, remember when like we used to do
this and this is what the thing was, and.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
You remember your first viral vine. No oh yeah, I
do remember.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
I never really like caught on in that way. I mean,
I definitely like, I feel like I did pretty well
on Vine, but I don't know, I don't I don't know. No,
I'm sorry. Here's the simple answer. No, I don't remember
my first viral vine.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Well you're killing it on YouTube, So like, what was
that transition from vine to YouTube?

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Sure? That was interesting. I definitely Well I got a
job at this website called Funny or Die. Yes from that, yeah, yeah,
from vine because me and my vine partner slash writing
partner at the time. Her name is Colleen Evanson.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
She's like writing on she's writing on a couple of shows, Ducktails.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Yeah, she's amazing. She's a rock star. And we used
to make vines together. And then we won this award
called the best vine viner in LA or something, and
that was really cool. And then that got that got
us both an interview with Funny Your Die, and then
I was the one who got the job through like
several circumstances because she blah't boy you with those details.
But yeah, so I worked it Funny Your Die for
a while, and I I was traditional. I started traditional.

(10:46):
I was working on I don't even know how many
sets as a production assistant. A lot of people don't
know that about me. Besides, when I go on a podcasting,
the app about it is that I've had every job
imaginable and didn't just like come into YouTube. You know.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
I love that breaks you like better and easy to
talk too, because you've experienced everything across the gamut. Like
You're not like somebody who has been like I only
make videos. Like I'm like, if I find out that
you've ever served on people or you've been like an
assistant where you're like, I'll go get the coffee or
I'll go do whatever, I'll sweep this like, I'm like,
you get it. You understand being a human and aho
as a level.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
Yeah, and in my heart, I'm always a bus boy.
I'm always an assistant.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Same.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Oh my, that's what I feel like when I go
to restaurants and I still am about that life, like
I always you know, I will actually this, I will
actually like start working in a restaurant when I go
to eat, Like I'll clear a table, like I'll go.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
To the back of the if something's not out or something.
You'll be like, okay, just can we just get up? Sorry?

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Yeah? Yeah, Sometimes I'm like, what do you got back here?
I just make a mess off at this point.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Well, I love I do. I do really appreciate that
about myself, and I even really miss that energy a lot.
But I yeah, I've worked a lot of jobs here
and uh and then yeah, I was I was trying
to make videos.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
It's the craziest job that you've ever had, Like, what's
like the crazyest thing that you've ever had to Oh.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
My goodness, Now that is quite a rabbit hole for me. Okay,
I mean that.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Really like one thing that you were like, I can't
believe I had to do that.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
Well, had to do that's interesting. I could go the
cool answer, which was I was Julie Andrews escort. Well,
not like that guy. Okay, that was really interesting. That
was really Now, if you want to get into the
dark side of the job, there's there's that too.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
No.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
The craziest thing I ever did, well, my first job
ever was playing Jeffrey Dahmer in a in a Haunted House.
That was my first paid job that I ever had,
and that was really really interesting and looking back on it,
so not okay, so so not okay.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Laid him in the in the show. Did you audition?

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Sure?

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Sure, sure sure.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
I had this job at a studio here and I
had to we would build that they were built up
in the studio and I had to we put all
the wood pieces, all the scraps in this like giant
like trash bin. And they were like, oh, can you
go throw this in the alley and throw it into
the major dumpster?

Speaker 2 (13:07):
And I was like yeah, like that's cool, and so.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
You know you have to like man up, you get
your whole strength, and you're like, so I threw it in.
But I threw the trash bin in by accident, and
I was like fuck. So I'm like, oh, fuck, okay,
I'm gonna climb in and get it. So I climb
in and get it, and I am I have this
like the little blue trash bin, and I'm in a
giant green one and I'm shaking the blue one to
kind of like get everything out, and the big green

(13:30):
one comes off of the hinges and starts to roll
down the alley like in Hollywood, and I'm just in
this thing like I'm like, I'm is, what is my
life in this very moment? How did I get in
this dumpster? I'm eighteen, nineteen years old. It's one of
my first big jobs. And I think that was where
I was like, yeah, this is an interesting place to

(13:50):
be in. The thing stopped thankfully before it got to
the street.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
That's good.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
We're just like will literally, I was like, this is
my life.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
You just have those moments where you're you know, when
you're like hugging the toilet because you're throwing up. I
don't know, if you had the night of drinking you're.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Like, I'm never doing this again.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
One of those moments.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Well, I'm glad that. I think it builds character.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
But then you were talking about something else. I interrupted,
like this.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Everybody has their I mean, there's a lot of Viners
that we know who are like not pursuing Internet anymore,
but like there are quite a few who are doing
it still unsuccessful, and I feel like you are like
one of the top dogs.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
God, that's so sweet to hear. Yeah, but yeah, a
lot of a lot of blood, sweat and tears early on,
which I love. You know. It was funny Sometimes I
see a celebrity or a musician and I have a
flashback of something that I used to do with them
on set or or or a funnier die like making
vines with them. Like sometimes I'll laugh at a video
of like a celebrity and go, oh, I made that
video or something which is.

Speaker 5 (14:53):
So razy, but I remember, you know that song.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
I don't know what's the melody. It's like I've been
a nasty girl. I used to drive t Nasee around
when I was seventeen years old. She was fourteen, and
I would drive her to set every morning at this
at this at this in this place called Downey, California,
in this abandoned shuttle factory that used to make shuttles
that went into space for NASA, And so these warehouses

(15:31):
were I mean, when I say massive, you cannot picture
this if you tried, it would take like ten minutes
going full speed in a in a golf cart just
to get to set inside of a building, driving down
abandoned hallways that were blocked off by government facilities that
were like if you entered this room, you will get
your poisoning. Wow, you know, and so they we probably

(15:52):
shouldn't have been in that building. So you've got questions
to answer downy studios, which doesn't matter anymore because they're gone.
They got leveled. But yeah, I used to drive a
little fourteen year old tase around you.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
See where like where was what was at the end
of the thing?

Speaker 3 (16:06):
Wait, like this hit the set of a show called
Out of Jimmy's Head, which I used to which was
very funny because it was a kids show that was
live action, half cartoon half live action, and I was
so young at the time that they would put me
in the show all the time. It's like an extra
for like eighteen to look younger. And so it was
so funny because they'd be you know, I'd be working

(16:27):
and they'd be like, Gerett, we need one more raver.
So it'd be like, go to costume. And so there's
all there's like scenes.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
They pay for that.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
No, of course I didn't get paid a cent for
any of my time on that show. But there are
scenes of me and tanasehe in like rave gear in
this fake high school dancing, which is so funny. Available
we should compile that ourselves.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
We will ourselves.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
I could actually I could send you if you want
to put it on screen right now, I could send
you like me, yes, yeah, but I mean, but that's
just one of I mean, I I've forgotten more than
I've done, if that makes sense, Like I I will
you know, like that just happens all the time. These
weird when you when you live in Los Angeles and
you're just in the mud all the time, especially as

(17:10):
a young broke person, you do everything everything. I would
wake up every morning and go on Craigslist, go on Facebook,
go on anywhere I could and just look for anyone
who needed help and then jump in that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
That literally Yeah, I was heard of all the time.
What's really cool. I'm from like down the street, like
boy andis in Hollywood, and I think I was the
same way. Like I was super broke. I was a
gross hippie kid. I smelled so bad. I was like
drinking all the time. I loved doing drugs as a
young kid. Sober now for like ten years, but you know,
oh that's cool. Yeah, yeah, I don't do anything. I'm like,
I drink this coffee. That's all I do. So, like

(17:44):
I was talking about my life in terms of like, yeah,
when I was a kid, there was this celebrity around
and I was at this party in this basement this happened,
and I had ninety seven cents in my account forever,
and somebody on the streets like, can I have a dollar?
And do you have a dollar? Like, actually, don't have
a dollar?

Speaker 3 (17:58):
Isn't that a funny feeling when you're as hell and
you're in a room with like, you know, people who
definitely aren't. Yeah, so like you're in a house that
costs like twenty seven million dollars, and that's a very
funny feeling, which has been basically my whole life.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
But it's kind of amazing because that's very lay in,
very Hollywood like, even like even just remembering certain experiences
like I think I was at dinner yesterday and we
were talking about when I interviewed Sama Hayak once and
I told her like I gate out on her really hard,
and I was like, someone, I love you so much,
I like cream my panties for you.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
And she was like she laughed.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
And she's like who wha whoa, Like just she said
start the interview covert on right, and so we started it.
We had a good laugh. But when I hung up,
I was like, I just told some hack that I
creamed my panties for her. I was mortified. Disney called
and they were like, she loved it, Okay, well yeah,
but like I still was like, it's weird that we
can be at dinner and have those sorts of stories,
you know, being like, yeah, you know, I was a

(18:56):
young kid and I told I was on the young
kid as early older, but you know, and I told
this actress something crazy, you know, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
I get. You know, it's a common thing for anyone
watching or listening or us me to get really really
graceless in front of a celebrity or someone that you've
looked up to. I mean, i'd like to think that,
you know. I'm always like I don't really care about that.
People are just people, and I feel that way, but
there are some times where it can break me. Like
there's there's a live that exists somewhere out there. If

(19:25):
someone searched it, they could probably find it. And it
was me. And this is funny cause it wasn't even
in person. It was me going live with Paulson's from
Sarah Paulson on Instagram, and for some reason it just
broke me. I couldn't speak. I was flustered. She went
live with me and I didn't know why, and it
was so and I was just like, this is the
most graceless I've ever been. And it's funny that I'm

(19:46):
saying you could find it pretty easily. I'm sure if
you searched it. And it's like, oh please, God, don't
mean it's just here. But that was someone that I got.
When I ended the live, I was like, what is
wrong with you?

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Why do you into like mush like I'm the worst?
When I see celebrity, would you lose your clover? I'm
if I saw Joe Jonas, I would just I would melt,
you know, Jeck physically melt.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
Jack Teachrick just took his photo like it, do you
know what talking about?

Speaker 1 (20:17):
I didn't see it.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Jack Techerck just took it.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Don't tell me that because he.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Works with Alex Warren. Who is something with him? I'm sorry,
this is such an un.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Edge looking I'm looking up right now.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
Yeah it was, I think it was. It was a Jonas.
I know that.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Have you met any of the Jonas brothers before?

Speaker 3 (20:30):
No? No, they never came into Funnier Die, well not
while I was there, any But that is kind of
funny with my with my working at Funnier Die. When
someone outside of Los Angeles a popular question when you
go back home, it's like, who's the most famous person
you've met? And I always say, like, who do you want?
Just tell me who asked me? Who you're who you know?
And it's usually easier that way because because and that's

(20:52):
not me trying to be like because I've met so
many because I worked at a place where my job
was to make contact with.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
I think.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
How we talk about this is because we we also
used to interview a bunch of celebrities. We have like this,
like similar, very similar experiences.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Yeah, what do you say to them?

Speaker 4 (21:08):
Like me, I thought you were going to go with,
Like what you say to them when they ask you like,
oh oh.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
No, I mean yeah, some I was cool as a
cucumber in front of no matter how famous they were.
It was just like I think it was because I
had a job to do, so I had to like
make vines and snapchats and Instagrams with them, you know
Instagram stuff, and so I think I was just cooler
in that way.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
I think I regret suz Kania Selenaana.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
I don't even know sister, like the selenas Likena, it's
her sister.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
We interviewed her, had like a sit down interview, and
I just remember being so nervous and I felt so dumb. Well,
I've interviewed her twice. Yeah, it haunts me still to
this day, and you can look it up. I interviewed
Selena's family basically her husband Chris Bettez, her brother Aby,

(21:59):
and her sister Susette for the unveiling of the wax
figure like down the Street at Madame Tussade's Twoes, and
my one of my questions was, what are your guys'
favorite songs? Like you guys? I said, you guys is
and people in the comments were like you guys. I like,

(22:24):
but I was so it was hot. I was so
nervous because this is like royalty. They're like the royal faculty.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, Icon spiritual and I'm like, what.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Can I say that would be different from everybody else?

Speaker 2 (22:38):
You guys, what are you guys' favorite songs?

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Like, Oh my gosh, Like.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Just like I think that's okay.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
Like for me, if I meet Angelina Jolie Ever or
any one of the Spice Girls, I've only met baby,
but if I were to meet Ginger Scarry, I absolutely
would be very okay with being like you know, because
when you meet somebody, you're like if you're a person.
I ever heard exactly said like we're people like I
don't want to bother you. But I think that when
it comes to Angelina Joli or Spice girls, I'm like, no,

(23:06):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
And your priendence I am. I am a worm?

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Well yeahper ventilating.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
Yeah, Well, because it's your personal relationship with them, it's
not their level of fame.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
I was.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
I used to work at a little cafe in Studio City, California,
and I remember the manager took me aside. I was
like a waiter and well that's more I did it.
It was complicated, but it doesn't matter for this story.
I was a waiter there and someone took me aside
who worked there, and they said, can you come in
this Sunday we have something huge happening and I was like, yeah,
sure whatever, I need money and they were like, okay,
you're going to be the personal waiter to get ready

(23:40):
and like grabbed my shoulders and they said Selena Gomes
at the time, dumb ass, you know whatever. Twenty three
year old me was like, oh, I think I've heard
that name search her up before you Well, I mean,
I was so like, I'm still I'm not like a

(24:01):
big pop culture guy.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
You know.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
I don't want anyone to gasp when I say that.
I think that that's any form of disrespect. I know
she's iconic and incredible and all those things, and I've
since learned a lot about her, but yeah, and I
love their own bad liar so much.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Oh yes, yos, that's pretty fubb You're right, Like, you
know me, I liked her a lot.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
I think she's really awesome. But if you were to
be like, who do I hang with Angelina, Jolie or
Selena Gomez? Like I'm listening next to Angelina and Jolie
and cry on her shoulder.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
But it was great, was Selena?

Speaker 3 (24:27):
It was great for me because I was cool as
a cucumber because I didn't have a personal relationship, right,
I was just like, what can I get you?

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Like, she was just saying what do you want?

Speaker 3 (24:33):
Yeah, and she was very She was super sweet and
super dressed down, you know, yeah, no makeup, no nothing,
just sweats and was like really kind and cool. This
was I'd say this was probably twenty fourteen fifteen.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Oh might have been the Biaber era. Was she dating Bieber?

Speaker 3 (24:49):
I have no idea. I didn't even know they dated,
but but she was really cool, So so that's a
good thing. But the point is is, yeah, you have
to have a personal relationship in order to fumble and
become a mess in front of them. I once very
I'm very ninety the time. I will not approach a
celebrity like you to do as well because you respect
their space. And yeah, a lot of people do that
in you know.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
I did. I was telling my dad last night. Though.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
When I was a teenager, I've never I know, I
never go up to celebrities. But one time I must
have been like fifteen, and I was at a movie
theater and Robin Williams walked out and.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
I grabbed his arm and oh I love you and
thank you.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
And in hindsight, I'm like, I can't believe I grabbed somebody.
I was young, it's like fifteen, but I think like
he probably just saw some like Latin kid and was like,
oh this Latin kids just like grabbing my arm.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
No biggie, you know.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
But I think back about it, and I'm like, that's
so crazy, like that. You we live in this city
where you're like Robin Williams, you know, rest in.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
Peace, like will come out, and you're just like, I
fucking love you, you know.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
I love the idea of him going home and telling
like his family like some Latin kid.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Little Mexican kid. And then I'm like, but it's fine.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Oh my gosh, I'm so fun.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Move on to our next Yeah, speaking of dating, dating, Yeah,
are you dating at all?

Speaker 4 (26:05):
Wait?

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Wait waits R. That's not how we wrote.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
This part dating exclamation work.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
So this is how this is the R. This is
how we wrote this part. Okay, March thirty first, twenty four.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
No no, no, no, no, don't start with that.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Why that's how it's written here.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Yeah, we're not there yet. We have to we have
to transition to that answer the question first, and then
we got a little something.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
Listen, I'm always I'm always dating.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
I'm always like to find that what does that mean?

Speaker 3 (26:34):
Well, yeah, okay, all right, let me explain. No, I'll
be honest. I I think it's I never really talk
about that side of myself on the internet because I
don't know why. I don't know. I never really do.
I've never really exposed those cards because I think what
I do on the Internet and maybe I need to
be more vulnerable, or maybe I should take pride in

(26:56):
the fact that I'm extremely cagy. See you two are
doing what's working right now? Actually asked me a question
that I had to kind of go in my head
for and go, oh, I don't know what to say
right now.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
That's okay.

Speaker 4 (27:05):
I have a couple of statements also, Yeah, I mean, look,
I think that there's some things I think being on
the Internet. I'm very private with who I'm dating, super
private because I just feel like I will share almost
anything about myself, but when it comes with relationships, like
I want something that's more for me, and so I'm
the same way, Like I think I've only ever posted
one person I was dating in my entire.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
Yeah, I've always said, here's how I'll put it. Yeah,
I've always been extremely private about that sort of stuff. Yeah,
I've always I've sometimes joked that, like I could be
married with kids and people wouldn't know.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Yeah, which, and I think that's fine, Like I think
that's okay, Like I do. I feel like you don't
owe people everything. Yeah, you know. But here's the thing
with me.

Speaker 4 (27:48):
I've dated people who have been who have gotten upset
with me because I haven't posted.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
And that is a huge how are you going to
announce that we're gonna we're dating?

Speaker 3 (27:58):
And I'm like, what if someone had that call? If
someone said that to me, Not to high road to
either of your journeys, but if someone said that to me,
I would go, hey, respectfully, like we're good here, right.
I mean that that is such a red flag for me.
If someone was like, really, how are we gonna do
the soft launch? I would be like, oh, there's a
huge misunderstanding right now.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Absolutely between what well speaking of a soft launch?

Speaker 4 (28:19):
Yes, okay, this is the thing. So I slid into
your DM I'm aware, yeah, and shot my shot, which
which you so politely declined.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
You also said to me once and I quote wish
I was straight. If you up so quick, which means
you've broken both our parts? What do you have to
say for yourself?

Speaker 3 (28:47):
First of all, depending on how much longer I am
not in a committed relationship, or maybe I am. No,
let's just do it. I say, you and I right
here on the podcast. Look, I've got a ring, you know.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
Oh my god, I haven't listen.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
If this is a stereotype, you can clock me. But
you seem like you switch ring, you cook?

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Wow, but how did I get third wheeled in two seconds?

Speaker 3 (29:13):
You're gonna be brought into this.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Okay, I'm the flower girl. I'm like, it's fine, guys,
welcome to the Hey, Robin Williams, Oh, it's really beautiful. Wow,
this is really beautiful.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
Oh thinks I made it?

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
I cast it in silver myself with a centrifuge, and
I melted the silver and I set the stone and
inside no I tried.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
I mean, you're like you're symbol for your jewelry.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Exactly nice reflect you know, Wait a second, I.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Would marry you. I would marry you. Wait, what was
the question?

Speaker 2 (29:48):
That was just a joke. It was just like, how
do you please? It was like.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
You, like, what do you have to say for yourself?

Speaker 4 (29:55):
You know what part of the time break and you
get them best them.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
It's fine, there's really no you have to.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
No, I can't. Part of it's like I think that
I will. I will be vulnerable and say this, okay.
I think part of it is that there are some
guys that when it comes to dating me, I go like,
you don't want this. I'm like, I am so messy
in that respect, like you know, so I'll kind of
keep it where it's at, or if I do get
involved with them, I'll be like, listen, this is messy.

(30:39):
I've got like I.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Can't see us and what I feel like. People who
say that are like, I don't swell in love with me.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
Another extra Dylan sprous like I'm different. I'm not like
other I'm just weird. I like listening to like you know,
I'm weird, like I like listening to rap music and
indie music. I didn't say that, no, No, you would
probably trying to think of no I. I I sometimes

(31:09):
want to just save guys the grief okay and just
say like, hey.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
You know, I feel like that's a copack. I feel
like because I know you're kind of like outside of
all this, and I'm like.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
We were literally having a conversation about this this morning,
where I feel like I'm like, oh, actually, I'm so
much fun to date. Like there's no like, remember I
was saying this earlier, like interesting that you would have
a thing about feeling like you would be a mess
or like you would.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Be words words or spells.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
I think that I am really really confusing for guys sometimes.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Is that what they've told you?

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Yes, okay.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
I always get the text of like, hey, respectfully, real quick,
just you know, just throwing it out there. What are we?

Speaker 4 (31:53):
Yeah, how far we've had episodes? But how far in
do they ask you this?

Speaker 2 (31:59):
How many days?

Speaker 1 (32:00):
How many months?

Speaker 4 (32:02):
Just depends on the guy, because I will say this,
I think that's somebody and we'll get into your sign later.
I think that somebody who is aligned with you, like
even astrology and just even in your spirit. Like I
feel like it's very easy to kind of be on
the same thing together. Like I've had people be like
what are we and I'm like, ah, fuck, this is
too fast, And I, on the flip, have been like

(32:24):
what are we? And I know I'm moving too fast?
Or you know, so I feel like you naturally will
find that like balance. I don't think that it makes
you a bad person. I don't think that it makes
you like to date.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
Listen, there's nothing I thought of a responsible way to
talk about this.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Okay, I did.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
It's kind of because I keep my mind keeps on
shutting me down, and someone in the comments can psychologically
diagnose what's diagnosed what's happening in my brain right now,
because I'm like, I don't know how to speak to
this responsibly, but I will say I really okay, hmm,
I could really go down the rabbit hole with this.
I'll chill. But there's this really interesting thing that happens
that you might understand. When you grow up gay. You're

(33:01):
sort of like looking at life from the outside in
like as though life is taking place in this sort
of glass cube, and you're sort of walking around this cube,
and you're hearing the echoes of activity happening. You're seeing
prom happen, you're seeing interactions and dating happen in high school.
But you know, I grew up Mormon as well, which
keeps you that keeps that glass, kept that glass really later,
and so you're you know, you talk to your girlfriends

(33:24):
about relationships and they say, you are such an old soul.
How do you know all this stuff? You're so smart.
I love talking to you, And really it's because you go.
Because all I'm doing is watching. I'm not participating. All
I'm doing is I'm this observer of life, and I'm
kind of watching all these activities happen in this sort
of microcosmo of of just the world my world? Does

(33:46):
that make sense? Microcs I don't know what that word means.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
It sounds to me that's good.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
All that matters is that I sound good. And then
I fall apart when you bust open Google, You're like,
what did he say?

Speaker 2 (33:55):
No?

Speaker 3 (33:56):
But yeah, So I think I see the way that
a lot of other people get into relationships, and I think,
ninety five I'll be kind. Ninety percent of the time,
I'm really confused by a lot of relationships I see
because they seem to just happen, because they happen to Like,
there are so few relationships that I know in my
life that I look at and I go, I love

(34:16):
that relationship that seems so naturalistic and cool and good
and healthy. A lot of the times I see just
and I don't. I think, Okay, what I'm trying to say. Sorry,
I feeled myself blushing. I think that what I'm looking
for is so dead specific that it's almost comical. Like

(34:37):
I've always I sometimes say that when I find someone,
I'm going to slaughter this. I'm gonna paraphrase this, this
thing that I heard. So I'm sorry, I'm not saying
it coruicktly. But it's like, when I find someone who
it feels as good with to be with them as
it does for me to be alone, I'll know that
I found the right person I look for. I think
I'm the most solitary person I know. Yeah, and that's

(34:59):
not aderation. I could be alone in my place for
three months straight and never think about it. And I
love people too. I'm a very probably on the Ambivert spectrum, right,
I love people so much and I totally understand that.
But I'm not a person who always needs to be
in a relationship. I'm almost like radically in the other direction.
And so I I you know, when I think of

(35:21):
the person for me, and that's listen, there might be
a little something going on right now, Okay, Like in
my personal life, I'm excited about. Yeah, I hope you'll
forgive me for not being like, Okay, so here's his name,
but you know it's you know, I've always I like,
I sometimes say, oh, I would date an accountant, like
someone who's just like a like a or or I

(35:46):
think ideally like a like a like an illustrator. I'm
always so I've always attracted to two things. People from
Michigan and illustrators.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
I'm someone who can't run.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
I will say.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
One of the things that I do tell my lot
is that I think that when you and I was
actually I time my dad this last night, that I
feel like an observer as a queer individual, like just
looking at the way that heteronormativity plays out in a
lot of ways, Like I study people like I study
the way masculinity looks, what femininity looks like, and it
is kind of like for me, I'm I'm always like

(36:17):
taking notes.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
I'm like, I love it.

Speaker 4 (36:19):
But one of the things that I do tell my
is that, like when it comes to relationships, you can
read everything about it, you can watch podcasts, you can
watch as many tiktoks as you want, but it's almost
like brain surgery, Like unless you are in there performing
brain surgery and getting experienced. You could read every book
and still not know what it's like. So I'm always
like get dirty, like get in there, like.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
It doesn't matter, Like yeah, but but it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
If it's by the relationship here.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
I'm going to try to speak and raise this microphone.
Is that okay? Because I've been stooped down the whole
time and it's driving.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
They fall sometimes crazy.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Sorry, I'm going to break us up.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
I think you can just like pull it up like this.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Oh dude, this is a game changer this whole time.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
It's going to keep going down some things.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
Yeah, that's okay, there's probably some terrible pund to be
made right now. Okay, this feels so much better. Yeah, okay,
is it in my face?

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Is that?

Speaker 3 (37:07):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (37:07):
All right?

Speaker 3 (37:08):
What you just said getting in the mud? What does
that mean when it's at the cost of someone's feelings.

Speaker 4 (37:13):
I think that when you get into a relationship for
both parties or some people three parties, you know, that's
the whole point. The whole point is to get in
there to learn to open yourself up, whether you get
hurt or whether it's a successful relationship. Success also doesn't
have one definition. Right, A successful relationship can be four
months and it was amazing. It can be seven years,

(37:34):
it can be twenty years and it ends after twenty
years and you're like, we had such a good run.
And I think that the thing is is what do
you take away from it? What do you learn about yourself?
What do you learn about yourself in contrast to others,
And then how do you use that for your own journey? Right, Like,
I've had incredible boyfriends. I was a shitty boyfriend for

(37:56):
a very long time. I didn't know how to like,
you know, I would have a boyfriend who was sick,
and I was like, I'm leaving. I'm not trying to
get sick. I'm gonna get my shit. But then I
had a boyfriend that was like shit, I got you juice,
I got you soup. Like, so now I know what
to do when somebody's sick, Right, I learned that at
the cost of our relationship because I was a shitty boyfriend.
I've also had other boyfriends that have made me feel
not as good as I'd like to feel. And so

(38:19):
now my takeaway from that is I know how I
expect to be treated as a full grown adult, as
a man, I know what to expect in another adult
and another man, but I don't think I would have
known that. And Maya noes like we've had countless hours
of me talking and crying about heartbreak or being excited
about the good times. But I think that for me personally,

(38:39):
I would love to be on my deathbed and being like, damn.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
I really loved really hard, like wow, I really went
in like we did it.

Speaker 4 (38:47):
And I also, last thing, I do look at people
in my life as like we're all actors in a play.
So even the bad ones, I go into like I
honor you, like thank you for this collab on stage,
like thank you for your verse on the track, just.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
The worst breakup text.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
You're not going to.

Speaker 4 (39:04):
Use it in music terms, like I always picture like
like a Nicki Minaj spitting a verse on a rap
or something a lyric.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
You're taking out your feature and thank.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
You so much.

Speaker 4 (39:16):
Stage last, everybody give it up for whatever, and then
that's it, and that's just the beauty of the relationship,
Like there's no My whole thing is like you don't
take anything with you in this life.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
You don't take a damn thing you don't take a person,
you don't take a.

Speaker 4 (39:27):
Memory, just live it up and have so much fun
while you do it.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
That I agree with, But again I'll raise my point.
What does that mean when it's at the cost of
someone's feelings? And that's what I've come to realize is
that it's like, Hey, you want to enter relationship with me,
It's gonna get experimental and weird, and it might, you know,
might not be what you're after.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
But I feel like that's what you're You're kind of
determining what it's going to be versus letting it be.
That sounds like a Gemini.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
I love the idea of like thirty eight dudes somewhere
out there in the planet from all different parts of
the world. Yeah, yeah, tell him, tell him that's what
he was doing.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
You sound like a Gemini, which brings us to our
next segment. Welcome to the astrology portion of the podcast.
You're Ai. We love Geminis. No Gemini slandords here. That
sounds a little bit like a Gemini. How do you
feel about being a Gemini?

Speaker 3 (40:18):
I don't feel any way about being a Gemini. I
have a very funny relationship with astrology. I think that
it's fascinating. But unfortunately, in my life I've experienced so much,
this might not be the most say someone called Okay,
I've talked about this so like for years. There's this
thing that happens when I say I'm a Gemini.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Just do it.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
I don't have to know what you're saying. Oh, I'm
a Gemini. Okay, I have gotten that reaction one thousand.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
That's not your fault. That's like, that's why we dispel
and try to like educate people. And we're not like professionals.
We like have a lot of friends who are who
are these signs, and we see from experience that they're
not all one way and there's not your son's sign
is not the only way of interpreting your entire self.

(41:12):
Like there's your moon, there's your rising, there's everything else.
And I feel like geminis get such a.

Speaker 4 (41:19):
Because I literally when people are I always cringe for me.
It's like I compare to when people go like listen, Linda,
or when they quote Borat like I'm like.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
Like, don't do that. The bottom of there, Like Geminis
are two.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
I'm like, that's how you're telling me you don't really
know about astrology.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
Super close friends, like best friends, family are Geminis, and
I always say that, like for me, I've always had
like crazy magical experiences when I'm with them.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
It's never like normal.

Speaker 4 (41:49):
Like me is a Gemini and I'll go with her
and she'll be like, let's go watch a screening of
a movie. And I go there and it's like a
giant premiere for like Showgun, and I'm like, what are what.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
Are the fuck are we me?

Speaker 4 (42:00):
She's just su supposed to be like a I'm in
a hoodie right now, you know, But that's very Gemini.
I feel that it's just like you're like, what the
I thought this was just a hometown buffet.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
Sorry, you've gotten that. It's not fair.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
Listen.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
I love whatever I am. I don't understand it, and
I don't like the as I've sort of joked the
space racism.

Speaker 4 (42:17):
Can I also say that that's probably where your love
thing comes from, because you're an air sign.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
Right, So like, yeah, maybe air.

Speaker 4 (42:25):
Signs tend to be a little bit more free. They
don't like to be tied down. They like to kind
of be my dad's an Aquarius. They they like their freedom.
So I think that for me, you kind of have
to find somebody who wants that for you or they
enjoy that.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
Yeah, I feel like I was gonna say about the
relationship stuff. I feel like I'm like a cat. I
will take like six months to even let a dude
know that I'm kind of tepidly interested, which is so
I mean, yeah, when I by the way, I want
to say this, when I was like, it gets experimental
messy and weird when I make the conscious choice to
be a boyfriend, I think I know, and I will

(43:00):
give myself this that I'm a stellar boyfriend. There's nothing
sketch there. I don't want to sound like I'm like
some when you get behind the curtains. It's not at all.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
I was like, what does experimental mean? Well, we're like okay.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
But but I'm just saying, no, it's not. It's not
that dark. I just mean I'm extremely tepid, like like
a cat or something about that choice and about getting
into that because and this is see, that's a funny
thing about podcasts, is right when you're your gears are
going and you're saying you're you're really getting involved and
you're kind of discovering what you want to say it's
like next topic, and you're like wait, and then sometimes
and then sometimes no, no, no, and that and then

(43:37):
sometimes it's over. But you're you're you're like the podcast
ends and you're like I was just getting started. But
you're right when you say that about perhaps there is
something with geminis and dating, because I really I love, like, Okay,
here's something that really really really bothers me in relationships,
and I'm so curious to hear your tics on it
and even read some of the comments perhaps about this.
When I get a text message that's like how is

(44:00):
your day? It makes me want to roll my eyes
into the back of my skull. Now if that happens,
which now, listen, I know how that sounds. I get it. No, No,
I get how that sounds to be, like why would
you hate a text like that? In the getting to
know you? Face? Totally sweet? But what I'm talking about
is not a Texas how's your day? I'm talking about

(44:20):
that constant like interaction. Does this make me sound like
a terrible person that because I always speak to people,
I promise I have an eloquent point here that I
could try to put dowords. I'm when whenever someone apologizes
to me. I just had a friend on Instagram who
I DMed and then she said, oh, I'm so sorry
I saw this late. She responded six hours later and said,

(44:41):
I'm so sorry I didn't see this earlier. And then
I went on a voice memo tangent. I was like,
hang on real quick. We are not meant to do
what we do right now. The current era of humanity
is absolutely mind boggling and dizzy ing. Is that we
have these devices in our pockets that you are meant
to stay in touch with one hundred and fifty people

(45:03):
constantly twenty four to seven. You know, when like you
would get homework as a kid, and then at one
teacher as signs you homework, and then the other teacher
as signs you homework, and ther teacher signs you homework,
and then you're like, wait a minute, are you guys
talking to each other? Do you know how much is

(45:30):
on my plane right now? Because you don't, I know,
you're not talking to each other, and I'm overwhelmed and
I don't know what to do right now. It's kind
of the same thing with communication now. I know people
don't talk to each other about how they're communicating with me.
But every single person is sending you correspondences all the time, constantly,
and for some reason, we've entered this weird thing to
where people feel self conscious about being like, I'm so sorry,

(45:52):
I saw this too late. Don't be sorry. I mean,
of course, we all know that there's some friends that
are exempt, Like my friend Andrew Swicky and I it's
one hundred and fifty texted like it's just conversation. Yeah,
and I'm sure you two are like that too. There's
like probably two or three people for everyone.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
Yeah, there's probably two or three people for everyone watching that.
It's like no, they they're like, they're beyond that. But
for every other person, every family member, every friend, everyone
you know, and so so you're just inundated all the
time with this pressure to communicate. And here's my point.
That has gone into the relationship territory for a lot
of people, and I think that's irresponsible and weird. And

(46:30):
for example, Matt Real and Sadi one of my favorite couples.
I love them. I love their dynamics. They're friends of ours,
of they.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
Were friends and then they got married.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
Yeah, they're amazing. I often talk about their relationship dynamic.
They're both extremely autonomous. They see there, they're not to
spread their business. I think this is okay. I think
either of them would speak about this publicly. But they
see their own mental journeys as their own journeys. They
don't burdening. They're just amazing with each other. And and
and they do this thing to where they don't do
check in text of like how is your day, what

(47:03):
are you doing, what are you up to? How is
the post office? Because they want something to talk about
at the end of the day, which I think is
brilliant and I wish other couples did that because sometimes
it's like I don't want to constantly be like yeah, okay,
this guy that I'm talking to just asks me like, hey,
what are you up to this week? And like making
small talking. Now I have to communicate in me has

(47:24):
to way.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
Deeper with which is funny because I'm looking up your charts. Yeah,
let me read it. I'll read it. Your moon is Pisces. Okay,
you're rising Virgo.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
Oh I told you my birth chart my time.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
Yes, yes, yeah, you're rising Virgo. Your mercury is the
same thing as mine, or do I Mine's in cancer
or your minds and Pisces, your mercury is in cancer.
So it says your communication style is emotionally intuitive and caring.
You're able to connect with people on a deeper level.
Your words often carry emotional weight. Storytelling with heart is
your strength. People relate to you because you speak from

(47:57):
experience and emotion. People with mercury cancer, mercury and cancer,
or vice versa, they like the deeper meaning of talking.
They don't like surface level stuff like I would say,
maybe like a libra mercury would be okay with like
small talk, but cancers get really deep and into it,

(48:17):
and I could see and especially being a virgal rising,
it's like and a Pisce's.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
Moon like that.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
You have a lot of emotions and feeling I do.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
I do, but you know, indeed, I'll take it. I'll
validate what you just said to to the nth degree
by saying that my favorite thing is actually nonverbal communication.
I'm big on that all silence with someone, or rather,
my favorite activity in the world, the most romantic activity
on the planet that I have often used to calibrate

(48:47):
my future or relationship with a guy in a dating respect,
dimno lights is that a nice environment and go back
and forth listening to music together. Nice.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
That's so sweet, like that one time and my birthday
party when all of us were just upstairs talking in
the dark, connected. And your venus is in Taurus.

Speaker 4 (49:08):
Also, I also just say, zo, you might just be
like somebody who just has like a lot of different
things pulling at you. Yeah, so I think that a relationship,
maybe you wanted to just feel more organic. And I
think that when you're in front of the camera and
you're you have.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
To be on that's valide.

Speaker 4 (49:25):
You want to be quieter with people, Like I just
wanted to say, like, it can be all of it.
Like I had a boyfriend who was like, why are
you so chatty out in the world and when you're
here you're quiet, And I'm like, well because all day
and yeah, I feel comfortable with you. So yes, okay,
So then you have a thing in.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Taurus, which, yeah, your venus is how you what you're
attracted to is, which is turs Taurus. They love beauty,
they like opulence, They're attracted to stability and comfort. So
everything you just described is kind of like and as

(50:04):
they especially love food too, Like they're they're like very
much about staying at home comfort just with like another person,
and yeah, that's really it. And then your mars, which
is the planet of like war and conflict, is in cancer,
which is the same thing as me, where when somebody
hurts your feelings, it kind of goes straight to your

(50:24):
inner child and kind of bypasses, like I mean you
people may build up a layer, like I feel like
I've built up a layer, but when I've gotten really
hurt and and or I'm talking, I'm talking from a
place of like will you hurt my feelings?

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Yeah, so only my mom could do that to me.

Speaker 4 (50:40):
Everybody else I'm like, I don't care, but my mom
says one thing to me, I'm like gutted.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
There's a lot of communication style, yeah, that people try
to execute with me. They don't work on me, and
then drives them crazy because I will not play that.
There's this very beautiful dude who's always like he's so dreamy,
but he's always like he's very flirty with me, which
sends my ego to the moon. But like his communication
style is extremely like sassy, Like he'll be like what

(51:10):
are you listening to? And I'll be like, oh, I'm
listening to this new Brian Eno ambient album, some weird
dumb whatever like something that I'm into, and it'll be
like that put me right to sleep.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
But you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
So he's hot.

Speaker 4 (51:28):
Hotness, like all that hotness money. I'm here for the
banter now. Like I'm like, if we even if it
is like not chidy or crazy time, if we can play,
like play with me at this point in my life,
I'm like, I just want to play with them.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
I just want to play.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
But it makes me sad. I wonder if there's I
agree with that well. I sometimes wonder with this guy,
if I if I could just say something to be like, hey, Bud,
you're beautiful. Is there someone in there that I could access?
I'm serious, like, could you get through this weird, like mean, flirty,
sassy thing you're doing and like, legitimately, do you need
a guy like me just to like put a hand

(52:03):
on your shoulder and be like, hey, okay, it's okay, you.

Speaker 4 (52:06):
Can Actually I thought you were going to put your
hand but sure, oh god, I thought it was going
to be a good like yeah you like that kid kid,
but you know, man.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
Hey come back to us.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
Somewhere someone else so we can.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
Access no, but you know, kind of like because because
I wonder sometimes if those guys would go oh yeah,
usually usually that works. I'm sorry, wait, can I can
I be quiet with you and be like yeah, you
can actually, and like that's cool, right.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
Yeah, fine, we forgive you.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
The astrology portion of the podcast, and then.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
And then you get into the dating in Los Angeles things.
I don't have any gay interests, which is okay to
say maybe there, you know, I haven't seen drag Race
and and some dudes would clutch their pearls when I
say that, why they haven't seen spaghetti westerns. I love those,
you know, like and I'm not trying to be like
I'm not like other girls.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
I'm not.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
It's I'm not trying to sound like that or some
quick meat. I'm not trying to sound like that. It's
just legitimate that I've never really you know. And so
that's a funny thing too, is that you get invited
to a lot of stuff that's hyper, you know, gay
interests here in Los Angeles, like hey, even when they're
trying to flirt, like hey, do you want to come
to my gay volleyball game? And I'm like, why, why, why,
why why? Because I don't I don't think that my

(53:27):
sexuality is the most interesting to me. I think it's
actually it's almost like boring in a way. I'm just like, yeah,
I mean, I'm gay, but like, I don't know, I'm
also blondish hair. Who cares. I don't know. It's it's
just a thing. But I don't mean to sound insensitive.
I totally insensitive.

Speaker 4 (53:43):
I think that's the nuance of queerness, right, the gayness,
Like you can exist in so many different ways and
still be a gay person, Like you can still be
I'm like, you're yeah, you're a gay individual.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
But I don't fuck with dragon. I don't know drag
race either.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
It's not to drag drag race. I think drag Race
is hilarious and fun.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
And I love shows like they're dopey of course, and I.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
Love and and and some some I don't know what
that's okay, it's an Italian Western movie. Some some guys
think that I'm I'm I'm shading or trying to be
above that energy. When I say, oh, it's not my flavor,
they go like, and I'm like, no, no, no, I love it, though,
I love camp. I love it's so fun. I I
I love I've seen every Judy Garland movie. I love
Liza Minelli. I love camp. Like it's fun.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
Yeah you know, but yeah.

Speaker 4 (54:24):
It's just interesting, like you hook and hang out with
some more hood gaze or something, because I'm like, I
don't think I think about my gaze. I'm like, we're
gonna go eat like you know, like we're gonna go,
We're gonna go do stuff. I don't think I've ever
been invited to.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
Like my takeaway from this podcast, I need to hang
out with more.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
You know.

Speaker 4 (54:45):
We used to have a club out here back in
the day called Circus and Arena, and it was predominantly
just black and brown kids that were queer that just
like hip hop and so we're all from here and
it's just a whole different We didn't mess with We
ho like we we never crossed that border.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
We were just like what is that?

Speaker 4 (54:59):
Yeah, we were like we wanted to hear Ying Ying
twins mister Elliot Ying and twins Sierra. There were some
closet Britney fans, I would say, but it wasn't like
a thing girls.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
You know, like you like Timberland huh. I love miss
so much. I went to her tour that she did
the Space Store.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
I wanted to go to the I watched it on YouTube.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
It's really good so much.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
I feel like we're just getting into it.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
I know, I know we got to have like yeah,
both trade places.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
Yes, gosh, well yeah, we covered it all astrology. How
I'm broken emotionally, got an.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
Apology from you for breaking our hearts. So I just
got like a fake proposal like the ring that was
already yours to.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
Forgive you.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
We'll do it off camera. I don't want to see that.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
Is there anything you're working on that you want to
like shut out spot Vie.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
I don't know. I'm always you know, I got the
main channel.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
Yeah, what's the next big pair of normal investigation?

Speaker 3 (56:07):
I don't want to say what it is because I'm
so excited. I I I get everything I do. I
get really in my you know, I keep to myself.
I have this terrible habit, like every creative does, of
speaking about the thing they want to do, and then
when you every creative does this, it's okay, but like
you say the thing that you want to do, and
anyone listening probably does the same thing. You get so
excited about this business. You want to start this thing,
you want to do this thing, you want to create.

(56:29):
Someone says, oh my gosh, that's amazing. You should do that.
Then you get the emotional validation.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
Yeah, I stop. I stopped doing that too, and.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
So then you don't do the thing got through Yeah,
and so hey, listen, creatives or anyone out there, like,
just keep it to yourselves, keep it a sacred space.
The things you're making.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
Actually don't anything.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
Well no, but stop talking. But you ask me what
my ex haunted location is, is not at all that
that I was just going out of tangent because I'm
because I'm just quirky.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
Now, well, what's the next thing for your channel? Are
you going to keep doing paranormal?

Speaker 3 (57:02):
Definitely? I really really love developing and staying in that
lane of paranormal for my main channel. And I have
a side channel called Garrett Unhinged that I really love
to just kind of pop off and do whatever I
want on and then there's a couple more. But I
think there's a couple more channels in me weirdly enough
that I need to start. Here's my goal for twenty
twenty five that's the best way to answer your question.
I need to start getting more naturalistic on the internet.
I need to start getting a little bit more. I'm

(57:22):
not even used. There are so many things that people
don't know about me. It's weird. I'm almost like doing
myself a disservice by only being like you only see
Haunted Adventures or like, kind of agree, I need to
start being a lot more, which is part of maybe
why being on podcasts more is kind of nice and
being a little more open and vulnerable and speaking because
I'm somehow terrified to do that on the internet because
I've seen a lot of ware.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
Your say, you wanted to go live, Yeah I did.

Speaker 3 (57:46):
Oh yeah, we talked about that because I went live
on TikTok and it blew my mind. It was so fun,
And that was part of that is being like, why
don't I do more things like this? Why am I?
So I like assign myself a script of like what
I can and can't do and for what you know,
So I need to work on on perhaps that. Yeah, sorry,
I know you try to wrap up.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
This is so juicy. I feel like we definitely have
to have you back on. I mean, I feel like
there's so.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
Much vulnerable with us, and that's really nice.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
Thank you. Oh, I mean I hope that I wasn't
didn't sound too cagy and on and thanks for talking
to me.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
Where can people find you? What are your ats?

Speaker 3 (58:27):
Oh? My ats? I mean just on everything. I'm Garrett
underscore wats. So I'm always double R doble t wats
like a light bulb. I'm always clowning around on on
all the platforms. Garret underscore wats. You can catch me,
catch them. I put a video up in London that
was that was really yeah on my Garrett unhinged my side. Whatever,

(58:50):
we're all doing a lot. We're all doing too much,
aren't we?

Speaker 2 (58:52):
Yeah, and my work. Can people find you can.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Find me at Maya in the Moment, m A y
A in the moment, anywhere you scroll what about you?

Speaker 4 (59:00):
You can find me at the Curly v Show on Instagram,
TikTok and red note.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
Oh is that real? Yeah? Yeah, I'm not on red Note.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
I thought you were joking.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
Sorry, I'm this guy too.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
Thank you so much for listening to another episode of
the Super Secret Bestie Club Podcast. Thank you to Garrett.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Bye. So it wasn't a ghost oh no, it was me.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
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Speaker 4 (59:43):
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