August 15, 2022 • 32 mins
The country is at a breaking point. For the first time in the United States, a former president was raided by the FBI. The Biden administration has crossed the rubicon into uncharted territory by targeting a political opponent. Tensions are high, and Americans across the country are worried about the future. Fox News host of The Ingraham Angle joins Lisa to give her perspective about where we have been, where we are now, and wearing we are heading as a country. Don’t miss Laura’s important insight.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We have a very very special guest for this episode,
none other than the great Laura Ingram. You know Laura
Ingram from The Ingram Angle on Fox News, always speaking
the truth, fearless, independent minded, which I deeply respect. I
love people like that. I love people like her. So
I gotta tell you it's an honor to to have
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her guest as a guest on the show. You know
her from TV. She previously was a nationally syndicated radio show,
The Laura Ingram Show. And also before her media days,
she worked as a speechwriter in the Reagan administration in
the late nineteen eighties. You know, she went on to
get her law degree. She worked as a judicial clerk
in the Second Court of Appeals in New York, then
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for the United States Supreme Court for Justice Clarence Thomas.
So she's lived an interesting life, obviously accomplished a great deal,
but I think most importantly, she's fearless and she's brave.
I originally wanted to have her on to talk about
life and to talk about some of that, you know,
really interesting work experience she had and how she got
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into media and all those sorts of things. And then
the FBI decided to raid Trump right, and the country
got turned upside down and my plans got turned upside
down for the things I wanted to discuss. So now
we're gonna talk about that the impact it has on
the country. We'll get into other things too, but you know,
primarily just sort of talk about the direction this nation
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is heading in. So I hope you enjoyed this conversation.
I know it's an honor for me. Big fan of
Laura Ingram, I'm sure you are too. So here she
is Laura Ingram. So we've got a big show today,
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a big week obviously, a lot happening in the country.
The great Laura Ingram is joining us. You know, Laura,
I originally wanted to talk about life because you're a
badass and I admire and respect you. But then the
but then the but then the you know I do,
but but then the FBI rated Trump. So you know,
now we're here, Laura, and it feels like the country
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is forever changed and we have uncertain times ahead. I think, Lisa,
we have arrived at the at the proverbial rubicon. And
you know, if people know their history, uh, that wasn't good.
People think, oh, we're at the rubicon, it's a new frontier. Now.
This I think does so much to undermine what Americans
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need to believe about their government, namely that the government
exists to make their lives better. It doesn't exist to
turn them into enemies. It doesn't exist to vanquish political opponents.
It actually is supposed to work for us. And if
we begin to lose faith in our law enforcement and
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our federal investigative services to the extent that I think
so many people are losing it now, you know, to
quote new Gingrich on the angerm angle um this week,
he said, we're at the precipice. I mean, it's not
an exaggeration to say we're at the precipice now, because
we know already. LI said that these forces on the
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left I don't like the Constitution. They're not interested in
in the Framers. They think the Framers are a bunch
of racists. And everything about America that has kind of
held us together for two or in fifty years they
think is inherently corrupt. Uh. And so they don't care
if people don't believe the FBI is operating in good faith.
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They don't They don't care if people think the Justice
Department is essentially the praetorian guard for a failing administration.
I don't care about any of that, because they think
the system itself is fatally flawed. They would much prefer,
and I say they sort the elites who have helped
build up China all these years and let our military
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deteriorate over all these years. They would far prefer America
to be run under a global understanding where where all
the big decisions are made elsewhere by people we don't
vote for, and by people who don't really have much
respect for what the American experiment was really all about.
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So so it doesn't surprise me that they would go
this low and degrade our system to the to the
extent that they are because the people who are really
pulling the levers of power now, they don't like our system.
They think it's corrupt, and they think it's it itself
needs to be smashed and reformed and remade into something
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that's much less accountable to the people who who they
believe are also corrupt and racist. Um So, I think
that's really the conundrum that we're facing, is a is
a ruling class that has no respect for our foundation
stional documents, or uh, you know, our our entire framework
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of of existence and liberty for the people and securing
liberty for the people. They don't like that, and that
that that kind of system gave us Donald Trump in
and you know, it's propelled Rhonda Santists to embarrass all
these other governors who kept their states closed. So I
think I think Americans overwhelmingly want things to get better that.
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I think they overwhelmingly want things to go back to
quote normal, um, the new normal that we see we
see playing out since the pandemic. And we all now
see the truth about that. I mean some of us
saw it early on, but you know that's right, better
later later than never. But people want to return to
normalcy of a government they can they don't necessarily will trust,
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but they think is not purely existing to make their
lives miserable. Uh. And I think that's what we're gonna
we're gonna see play out in these election cycles coming up.
And how is a nation survive in in the environment
that you laid out when you have half of the country,
the people on the left, undermining our institutions and not
believing in our institutions, you know, not believing in the
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documents that created this nation and created the framework for
the nation. Yeah, how does a nation survive in that environment? Well,
I think the only way we can the only way
we've ever gotten through every incredibly difficult situation, whether it
was a Great Depression or civil rights struggle or you know,
the Civil War. I mean, we have to as a
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people decide that we aren't going to tolerate a certain
type of leader, that we're gonna we're going to encourage
and support those leaders who actually respect the people. And
I think you see signs of that happening. I mean
they're I think there are too many conservatives out there,
and not just conservatives, but other people who say, oh,
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we're going to hell and a hand basket, there's no
turning back, it's all law, all hope is lost. I mean,
nobody wants to follow that that mindset. Reagan came in
in nineteen eighty in an environment that was so broken
for America. I mean, we had our embassy held hostage,
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we had we had Iran erupting, we had the Soviet
Union still threatening US, we had a massive economic disaster
on our hands, and we had we had a complete
decline and patriotism and in a lack of respect for
our military. I mean across the board. In nineteen seventy
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nine nine, going into nineteen eighty, America was in a
huge mass. We had terrible crime, cities were a mass,
and we had someone to say no, no, no no, it's
gonna be morning in America. There's that we don't have
to live this way. So I believe this comes from
the people, and to finally people get fed up and
they propelled someone like Reagan. But remember Reagan lost in
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nineteen seventy six. He lost the nomination in seventy six,
not by a lot, but he began to put together
his framework all the way back in sixty four when
they really all hope was lost for the conservative movement.
Talk about depressing back in sixty four. And so we
have to understand that things didn't get screwed up overnight,
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and they're not gonna get fixed overnight. This is going
to take an enormous amount of work. But I think
it's possible. I mean, I just think there's so many
amazing young leaders out there, from whether it's Josh Holly
or Tom Cotton or De Santist. Obviously, people like Christy
Nome and Um you know, all the great political leadership
we've seen in Texas, Greg Abbott, and so I think
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there's a lot of hope. And I think I think
we're seeing this kind of begin to bubble up in
the younger people winning these primaries. You know, some of
them won't win, some of them will win. But these
are people who are you know, these are Hispanics, these
are African Americans, these are these are moms, uh, young
business people who have just decided, you know something, I'm
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not gonna sit on the sidelines. I'm gonna get involved.
And I think that's surprising the Democrats right now. I
think that's shocking them of how Republicans have really thrown
off the cloak of the old establishment that failed us
for decades and it began begun to really embrace this
more populist conservatism that you know that Trump smartly grabbed
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onto and rode all the way to the presidency. In So,
I think there's a lot of hope, but it's going
to take a lot of work. Well you, of course,
we're a speech raider during the Reagan administration. But to
your point, I believe that's why they're they're cracking down,
because you are sort of seeing this upraising really not
just in the United States but around the world, the
people standing up to their government saying this is enough.
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COVID really accelerated the rise of authoritarianism in the West,
and I think it's open some eyes. I was interested
to see, Laura. I'm sure you you of Andrew Cuomo,
the guy who killed elderly people, then covered it up
saying that whoa, whoa, this is a bridge too far.
It must be more than a search for inconsequential archives
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or will be viewed as a political tactic. So even
seeing someone like him as corrupt as he is saying
that this is corrupt. Yeah, I think that Democrats who
have kind of um been around politics for a long
time should be very careful about what they're saying about
this search warrant. I mean, I saw Schumer didn't say anything.
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He didn't want to get dragged into it. Bernie Sanders
didn't say anything that Maybe that's just a political tactic.
I don't know, but I gotta say, I mean to
to drop a warrant on a former president of the
United States and the guy is probably gonna be the
party's nominee in man, you better you better have like
espionage or something like that. That's just something we that'sn
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something speaking of norms that they supposedly are so worried
about protecting. That is something we do not do. We
do not do that as a country, and they decided
to go there. I think least you're right they're very
worried about Trump winning again, because I kind of joke
and I say, I say Trump comes back, is going
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to be no more Mr nice guy. I kind of
joke about that. But because he he now has he's learned.
I would think that he's learned that you have to
have great staff, which I think he actually did have
at the end. He might not, he might not agree
with that, but actually think he really did have good staff,
especially at the end. You have to have great staff,
and you have to hit the rent ground running because
the the the swamp will eat you up. And the
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in this lionizing of the of the military leadership, which
he did, and I talked about this a lot this week,
the lionizing of the generals. Just because someone's called a
general doesn't doesn't it doesn't mean that this is someone
who you have to I think is right on every
single issue in fact, these generals have been brought up
through the ranks of political correctness and diversity, equity inclusion,
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and most of them are just worried about the defense
contractor board that they're gonna land on in five years.
So Trump, I think, has had his eyes opened about
the truth of the bureaucracy, the truth about the Pentagon,
the failures there for for decades and decades we haven't
won a war out right, Why is that? Why don't
we ever ask for accountability on that? And so I
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think that Trump wins this time, Lisa, And he's not
going to talk about draining the swamp. He's going to
drain the swamp you talk about you talk about terrifying
for them, Yeah, that's gonna be terrifying. So I think
I think they pulled out all the stops because Aviator
sunglasses man ain't gonna beat him next time. Yeah, I mean,
he rolled the curtain back on how corrupt and broken
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or government truly is. I think it opened a lot
of eyes. He opened my eyes for sure, really changed
my thinking on a lot of things politically. But ultimately,
isn't this about the annualization to free speech and wrong thing? Oh? Yeah,
I think This is one big intimidation play. And I
think the way they handled January six, I said it.
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I think the first week after the you know, after
the riot at the Capitol, that this was going to
be used as a way to surveil justification for more surveillance, monitoring, intimidation. Uh,
you saw what Justice Department did with this domestic Terror
unit and expanding what actually qualifies as domestic terror. So
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I think they want Americans to think twice before they
show up at a rally, or before they post online,
before they open up a Christian school, Um, you know,
before they go to a gun safety class. I mean,
I I honestly think there Their goal here is to
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make the average American complainant compliant and and and and
and worried and with good and with good reason. I mean,
when you when you're trying to criminalize parents at school
board meetings and call that and tackle a father who's daughter,
who's whose daughter was raped in a bathroom. I mean,
as you saw in that Loudon County video that I
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think changed the whole course of the gubernatorial race and
in Virginia, I mean, this is gestapo stuff. This is
this is stuff that you know when I lived in
the Soviet Union, when I was a student back at Dharmouth.
I mean, I saw that stuff in the Soviet Union.
We were we were scared about who we talked to,
and we were there because we knew we were being watched.
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Without getting too conspiratorial, I mean, how how much farther
down the road do we have to get before we
approach that territory? I mean, I'm pretty fully convinced that
we're probably a monitored to some degree, to be perfectly honest,
but uh, you know, I mean it's just if if
you're you know, if we're being honest about it, Uh,
they're probably tracking us, but you know, we're a Republicans.
Like Mitch McConnell, I think he truly is stunned that
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the party has already left him. I honestly think he
really can't believe that the party is not his party anymore.
It doesn't matter if he's called Senate Majority Leader. The
people aren't with him, and I think it took him
a while to grudgingly admit it. Obviously, in the aftermath
of this raid on Trump, I think he was thinking
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Trump was finished. Trump was murmuring about coming back, but
come on, all right, that's not gonna happen Donald Trump.
I mean, the old guard knows what's best for the
people on trade and immigration and government spending, and and
I think he was truly shocked when, after he was
outmaneuvered on that climate change bill, uh, that the reaction
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to the Trump raid was unify the party around the
guy who has the America first, and not around the
guy who's allowed government to grow and who has never
met a defense authorization that he doesn't like, which is
Mitch McConnell. So I think I think he truly was
shocked about that, and he was shamed into coming out
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and making the most flaccid of statements about this raid,
about oh, well, we're expected Joseus Barbara has to be
very transparent about this. Yeah, no kidding, no kidding, they
have to be transparent about it. But it took him,
you know, a full twenty four hours to make any
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statement that he was only he was shamed into making
that statement about the raid. But again it was a
weak statement. So I think he's I think he's shocked.
I think if they if you know, it's unlikely that
they're going to win the Senate at least, if the
races were held today, the Republicans shockingly might not win
the Senate back. But if they did with the set
it back, Mitch McConnell's position as a majority leader isn't
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a sure thing, that's for sure. Speaking of that, what
what impact do you think this has on the electorate
heading into the mid terms. Well, the raid I think
unifies the party. I think it has the danger of
it has the danger of also stoking Democrat turn out
because Trump's out there again and maybe he'll announce he's
running for president again. And the concern is that they
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hate him so much that now there are people were
going to turn out on Moss as well. But I'm
not sure. I mean, I'm really torn on and I
don't know if I'll have a great answer to this, Lisa,
because it's a tricky situation given how precarious people's personal
budgets are right now. I mean, most people are digging
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into their savings at the middle income levels because their
salaries aren't keeping up with inflation. I mean, somehow today
they crowded about how, oh, inflation is only eight point
five They're celebrating that, what was it? What were they
celebrating like pennies off of gas prices and they think
everyone's paying double, but it's like, oh, you saved twenty
cents or whatever. Yeah, it's a great point. So I
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think that the media will continue to try to resurrect
I should say resuscitate um Biden Biden's performance. Look, he's
got these winds at oh because called the change we
got the we got the chip bill. But celebrating winds
on their own because they were bills were past, that
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doesn't translate into a better life for the average American.
So we'll see how this all plays out. I tend
to believe that it's going to make energy more expensive
and imports of various component parts of solar panels, everything
more more prevalent um. I don't think it's going to
do much to certainly raise the standard of living of
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the average Americans. So I think their celebration or their
attempt to burnish the Biden record or turn around his momentum,
I think that's premature. Were but that's kind of all
they have has been. I don't think it necessarily means
that people in November are gonna say, oh God, I
want more of this. This has been fun. It has
been great. Let's go out and vote for that guy
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when they you know, we haven't even talked about the border.
But I think the immigration is under underpolled as a
concern for people. Um, but I think when the school
year starts, we're gonna have a we're gonna have We're
gonna have a lot more concerned parents out there. Well,
it is hilarious that you've got people like Eric Adams,
You've got Democrats who are saying, oh, you know, diversity
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is or strength, you know, let them come in. We
we need to take all of them. And then the
second buses start showing up to New York City, they're like, oh,
this is gonna overwhelm our schools, overwhelm our healthcare. And
it's like, as Republicans were, like, we've been saying this,
like that's the whole point. Welcome to the club. I
think you're right. And I think again, I think people
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people conflate Trump with with the people's overall sense of
happiness in the country. I mean, you know, Donald Trump
has been a friend of mine for twenty five years
and and I I'm always very open about this on
my on my show. But you know, we'll see whether
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that's what the country wants. I mean, what the country country,
I think is so exhausted. They're exhausted by the battle,
the constant battle that they they may believe that, well,
maybe it's time to turn the page if we can
get someone who has all Trump's policies, who's not Trump right.
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So the other concern though, and I don't have a
position on this one way or another, but the other
problem is is that it's really not about Trump right.
This is about the views that Trump now brought to
the fore for the Republican Party. They don't they don't
like his views. They don't like the fact that he
called out the military for their earliers, that he wanted
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US to pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan, that he
wanted to treat China and our trade relationship with China
in a in a much I mean it was smarter
but much different way than the globalists preferred. And they
certainly didn't like the fact that he sent all those
illegal immigrants back to Mexico that remained in Mexico. I mean,
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they don't they think borders are immoral. They think, uh,
they owning you know, owning big SUVs is immoral. They
think eating too much beef is immoral, having air conditioning
as immoral. These people think that the American way of
life is immoral, and and it doesn't. It doesn't really
matter in the end whether it's Trump making the populous
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conservative points or whether it's the Santists or someone like him.
They're going to come full bar against any Republican, even
an establishment when they saw what they did to Romney.
Romney was a caricature of Thurston Howell the Third by
the time they got done with him back. So yeah,
Trump is a is a is a placeholder right now
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for the higher and fury of the left. But anyone
who steps into that breach is going to find the
same find the same pain being thrust at him or
her quick commercial break back with the Great Lord Ingram.
On the other side, we talked a little bit about
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the economic climate right now in the country. My viewpoint
is they want Americans impoverished, right The whole point of
the Green agenda is to push people to more government control.
The poor people are, the less they have, the more
reliant upon the federal government they are. Well, I think
the more people are relying on the federal government, the
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less freedom. They ultimately have to change their own destiny.
And I think the left prefers things like lockdowns because
then people can't move and pollute the planet. They can't,
they don't think for themselves. The government tells them when
they can travel, when they can go to church, when
they can you know, go to the store. The left
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loves making decisions for the people. They don't want the
people to have the power. And that's why the lockdowns
were so damaging to our national psyche, to our to
our way of life too, the way people think about life.
You know, when you see people walking around in two
and three masks still, you know, this has had a
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profound effect on the American you know, American people, and
it's terrifying. Thank god we had these red state governors
who basically, you know, flip the bird to the to
the Feds, into the into the Blue States and said
we're not stay closed. Are you kidding me? I mean,
it's thank god we had the Red States, Otherwise I
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don't know where economy would be today. I mean, I
moved down to Florida for that reason of leaving New
York wanting freedom. So smart I love it, Laura, I
mean it's like life has just been so great here.
I don't I don't miss New York at all, to
be honest, it's it's been lovely New York. Sadly one
of the great cities is turned into a crime ridden hell.
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It's gone back. So New York has gone back to
what it was in the eighties and seventies, and after
Julian they cleaned it up. Now it's going back and
rents are still high. Everything is still expensive. And you know,
the left got their way because now a lot of
people have moved out and so the subway ridership is
down meaning meaning what meaning more, the public public structures
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that they love so much are crumbling, so you don't
have money to When you don't have people going into
the city to work, then the city start to decay.
So that's that's the flip side of there. Oh isn't
it great? Remote work? Everyone's at home, no one's going
in the office. Okay, well you tell, Let's see what
the cities are looking like in five years. Let's see,
let's see how they look. Do you think Americans are
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now connecting the dots and the correlation, as you mentioned,
you know, the bigger, the centralized government. The bigger the government,
the more problems we have, the worse off we are
as citizens. Do you think people are finally drawing you
know that correlation after COVID? I think more are and
it's going to take a continued effort to educate, entertain
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and inspire the voters uh to seal that message. And again,
people forget that Reagan campaign in all fifty states. I
believe it was almost all fifty states, and he finished
up his campaign in I believe it was in the Bronx,
So he went everywhere. It was a different world, obviously,
and we have social media and all the everything that
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we have now. But I I maintain that the this
populous movement has to be a fifty state movement. There's
no reason that we should have twelve, you know, Democrats
in New England in the U. S. Senate, even even
if they're even if sometimes they're called Republicans, they act
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like Democrats. There's no reason for that. I mean, these
are great states. I grew up in Connecticut. It's a
beautiful state. So it's not gonna happen overnight. I will
say that again. But I really believe that our motto
should be no state left behind, no city left behind.
You know, we love this country, We love every aspect
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of the country, and we refuse to give up on St. Louis,
on Chicago, on Oakland, on Hartford. We we we were
not going to give up on you. The left is
given up on you. They use you. We're not going
to do that for you. Here's a better way. And
I think I think the more we sell that message
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and and not and be unafraid. It's easy to say,
but we really have to be on a fraid. Oh
they're gonna protest you. Of course they're gonna protest. They're
gonna hate you. Of Of course they're gonna hate you. They're
gonna call you a racist. Absolutely, we'll call you a racist,
now what. So that that's how I think we have
to approach all this. And I think that's the point.
I mean, Republicans just need they need to stop looking
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for a pat on the head from the liberal media.
Understand that we're all going to be we're all gonna
be smeared, we're gonna be labeled. We all have. But
I do think part of the path forward is through
the states. I mean, we've got twenty three g P states,
with trifecta government. If every governor in those states bucked
up in the way that governor to Santa says, the
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federal government wouldn't have as much of an impact on
their lives. Yeah, I mean most most governmance happens at
the state level and the local level. That's why I
think you're seeing more people run for school board and
more people are getting involved. And I've ever seen from
a wide you know, range of American society. Oh, and
I think that's that's good. But we we do have
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to remember the states is where most of it happens.
And we can't we can't. We can't just throw up
our hands and say, oh, California has lost forever. No,
it isn't a lost forever. It's look at what they've
done to California. You think people want to live that way?
I don't think so. But they do have a party
machine that that that that churns out votes every you know,
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every two years. And we have to build back ard
my our machine there. We used to have a party
machine there. Where is it? So? I think I think
if people believe that immigrants came to this country just
to live at the poverty line, I don't think you're
really understanding politics too well. I think people, for the
most part. I'm not talking about the drug dealers and
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the human traffickers, but most immigrants who have come here
to this country in the last twenty years, they came
here because they want a better life, and and in
the life that they're consigned to with with just you know,
the minimum that the government will provide you in the
quote safety net, that's not much. And I think we
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say stopped. It's time to stop demonizing rich people and
start telling everyone if you work hard, you can be
rich too, and free. And I think that's I mean, look,
I want to be rich. I'd love to be rich,
but I want everyone else to be rich to, you know,
the left ones to be rich and then drag everyone
else down and make it impossible for them to also
get ahead. You know, Laura, is there anything you know?
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It really does feel like this upcoming midterm election is
sort of a make or break moment for the country.
But is there anything else you'd like to leave us
with before we go? I think, um, all of us,
and at times that seem so turbulent, and everything seems
like it's operating on a knife's edge. I do think
in this sounds that cliche, I know, but everybody has
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to take the time to just be with their friends
and their family without a political moment, you know, with
out of without politics tinging every aspect of our conversation,
life goes by really fast, really really fast. So everybody,
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to the extent that you can take, even if it's
an afternoon or an hour, take time away from devices
and screens and really be together and and pray regularly.
If you if you're a believer, pray. I mean sometimes
we say we are believers that they don't. We don't
really listen to what God's telling us. And I'm guilty
of that. Um, I'm just really speaking to myself here.
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But step away from the chaos of of of life
and and take those moments to really count your blessings
and be grateful for everything that we have in this
country and all those who sacrifice for us. And then
you can, you know, pick yourself back up, and you know,
get back to work, whatever your work is, do a
great job, and and and really try to love each
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other a lot more. And it's not easy when you
when you really just someone. I always tell my kids
when someone fights with them or says something I said,
pray for them. It's easy to like the people who
are who are good to you, it's hard to pray
for the people who are not so good to you.
So I guess that's my staffie way to to close
out well, and that means we're praying for a lot
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of people. It's a long list, Laura, so we got
a lot of work to do. Laura Ingram, it's an honor.
I really respect you, I respect your voice, and it's
just an honor to have you on the show. So
thank you so much for taking the time. Congrats on
the podcast. Can't wait to come back and come on
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TV soon. Love it, Laura, thank you so much. I
really appreciate it. We'll talk to you certinly, so bye bye.
What's that cool? I've always been a huge fan of
Laura ingram. I. I love people who are into, pendently minded,
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The Truth of Lisa Booth
We have a very very special guest for this episode,
none other than the great Laura Ingram. You know Laura
Ingram from The Ingram Angle on Fox News, always speaking
the truth, fearless, independent minded, which I deeply respect. I
love people like that. I love people like her. So
I gotta tell you it's an honor to to have
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her guest as a guest on the show. You know
her from TV. She previously was a nationally syndicated radio show,
The Laura Ingram Show. And also before her media days,
she worked as a speechwriter in the Reagan administration in
the late nineteen eighties. You know, she went on to
get her law degree. She worked as a judicial clerk
in the Second Court of Appeals in New York, then
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for the United States Supreme Court for Justice Clarence Thomas.
So she's lived an interesting life, obviously accomplished a great deal,
but I think most importantly, she's fearless and she's brave.
I originally wanted to have her on to talk about
life and to talk about some of that, you know,
really interesting work experience she had and how she got
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into media and all those sorts of things. And then
the FBI decided to raid Trump right, and the country
got turned upside down and my plans got turned upside
down for the things I wanted to discuss. So now
we're gonna talk about that the impact it has on
the country. We'll get into other things too, but you know,
primarily just sort of talk about the direction this nation
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is heading in. So I hope you enjoyed this conversation.
I know it's an honor for me. Big fan of
Laura Ingram, I'm sure you are too. So here she
is Laura Ingram. So we've got a big show today,
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a big week obviously, a lot happening in the country.
The great Laura Ingram is joining us. You know, Laura,
I originally wanted to talk about life because you're a
badass and I admire and respect you. But then the
but then the but then the you know I do,
but but then the FBI rated Trump. So you know,
now we're here, Laura, and it feels like the country
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is forever changed and we have uncertain times ahead. I think, Lisa,
we have arrived at the at the proverbial rubicon. And
you know, if people know their history, uh, that wasn't good.
People think, oh, we're at the rubicon, it's a new frontier. Now.
This I think does so much to undermine what Americans
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need to believe about their government, namely that the government
exists to make their lives better. It doesn't exist to
turn them into enemies. It doesn't exist to vanquish political opponents.
It actually is supposed to work for us. And if
we begin to lose faith in our law enforcement and
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our federal investigative services to the extent that I think
so many people are losing it now, you know, to
quote new Gingrich on the angerm angle um this week,
he said, we're at the precipice. I mean, it's not
an exaggeration to say we're at the precipice now, because
we know already. LI said that these forces on the
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left I don't like the Constitution. They're not interested in
in the Framers. They think the Framers are a bunch
of racists. And everything about America that has kind of
held us together for two or in fifty years they
think is inherently corrupt. Uh. And so they don't care
if people don't believe the FBI is operating in good faith.
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They don't They don't care if people think the Justice
Department is essentially the praetorian guard for a failing administration.
I don't care about any of that, because they think
the system itself is fatally flawed. They would much prefer,
and I say they sort the elites who have helped
build up China all these years and let our military
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deteriorate over all these years. They would far prefer America
to be run under a global understanding where where all
the big decisions are made elsewhere by people we don't
vote for, and by people who don't really have much
respect for what the American experiment was really all about.
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So so it doesn't surprise me that they would go
this low and degrade our system to the to the
extent that they are because the people who are really
pulling the levers of power now, they don't like our system.
They think it's corrupt, and they think it's it itself
needs to be smashed and reformed and remade into something
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that's much less accountable to the people who who they
believe are also corrupt and racist. Um So, I think
that's really the conundrum that we're facing, is a is
a ruling class that has no respect for our foundation
stional documents, or uh, you know, our our entire framework
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of of existence and liberty for the people and securing
liberty for the people. They don't like that, and that
that that kind of system gave us Donald Trump in
and you know, it's propelled Rhonda Santists to embarrass all
these other governors who kept their states closed. So I
think I think Americans overwhelmingly want things to get better that.
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I think they overwhelmingly want things to go back to
quote normal, um, the new normal that we see we
see playing out since the pandemic. And we all now
see the truth about that. I mean some of us
saw it early on, but you know that's right, better
later later than never. But people want to return to
normalcy of a government they can they don't necessarily will trust,
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but they think is not purely existing to make their
lives miserable. Uh. And I think that's what we're gonna
we're gonna see play out in these election cycles coming up.
And how is a nation survive in in the environment
that you laid out when you have half of the country,
the people on the left, undermining our institutions and not
believing in our institutions, you know, not believing in the
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documents that created this nation and created the framework for
the nation. Yeah, how does a nation survive in that environment? Well,
I think the only way we can the only way
we've ever gotten through every incredibly difficult situation, whether it
was a Great Depression or civil rights struggle or you know,
the Civil War. I mean, we have to as a
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people decide that we aren't going to tolerate a certain
type of leader, that we're gonna we're going to encourage
and support those leaders who actually respect the people. And
I think you see signs of that happening. I mean
they're I think there are too many conservatives out there,
and not just conservatives, but other people who say, oh,
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we're going to hell and a hand basket, there's no
turning back, it's all law, all hope is lost. I mean,
nobody wants to follow that that mindset. Reagan came in
in nineteen eighty in an environment that was so broken
for America. I mean, we had our embassy held hostage,
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we had we had Iran erupting, we had the Soviet
Union still threatening US, we had a massive economic disaster
on our hands, and we had we had a complete
decline and patriotism and in a lack of respect for
our military. I mean across the board. In nineteen seventy
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nine nine, going into nineteen eighty, America was in a
huge mass. We had terrible crime, cities were a mass,
and we had someone to say no, no, no no, it's
gonna be morning in America. There's that we don't have
to live this way. So I believe this comes from
the people, and to finally people get fed up and
they propelled someone like Reagan. But remember Reagan lost in
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nineteen seventy six. He lost the nomination in seventy six,
not by a lot, but he began to put together
his framework all the way back in sixty four when
they really all hope was lost for the conservative movement.
Talk about depressing back in sixty four. And so we
have to understand that things didn't get screwed up overnight,
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and they're not gonna get fixed overnight. This is going
to take an enormous amount of work. But I think
it's possible. I mean, I just think there's so many
amazing young leaders out there, from whether it's Josh Holly
or Tom Cotton or De Santist. Obviously, people like Christy
Nome and Um you know, all the great political leadership
we've seen in Texas, Greg Abbott, and so I think
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there's a lot of hope. And I think I think
we're seeing this kind of begin to bubble up in
the younger people winning these primaries. You know, some of
them won't win, some of them will win. But these
are people who are you know, these are Hispanics, these
are African Americans, these are these are moms, uh, young
business people who have just decided, you know something, I'm
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not gonna sit on the sidelines. I'm gonna get involved.
And I think that's surprising the Democrats right now. I
think that's shocking them of how Republicans have really thrown
off the cloak of the old establishment that failed us
for decades and it began begun to really embrace this
more populist conservatism that you know that Trump smartly grabbed
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onto and rode all the way to the presidency. In So,
I think there's a lot of hope, but it's going
to take a lot of work. Well you, of course,
we're a speech raider during the Reagan administration. But to
your point, I believe that's why they're they're cracking down,
because you are sort of seeing this upraising really not
just in the United States but around the world, the
people standing up to their government saying this is enough.
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COVID really accelerated the rise of authoritarianism in the West,
and I think it's open some eyes. I was interested
to see, Laura. I'm sure you you of Andrew Cuomo,
the guy who killed elderly people, then covered it up
saying that whoa, whoa, this is a bridge too far.
It must be more than a search for inconsequential archives
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or will be viewed as a political tactic. So even
seeing someone like him as corrupt as he is saying
that this is corrupt. Yeah, I think that Democrats who
have kind of um been around politics for a long
time should be very careful about what they're saying about
this search warrant. I mean, I saw Schumer didn't say anything.
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He didn't want to get dragged into it. Bernie Sanders
didn't say anything that Maybe that's just a political tactic.
I don't know, but I gotta say, I mean to
to drop a warrant on a former president of the
United States and the guy is probably gonna be the
party's nominee in man, you better you better have like
espionage or something like that. That's just something we that'sn
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something speaking of norms that they supposedly are so worried
about protecting. That is something we do not do. We
do not do that as a country, and they decided
to go there. I think least you're right they're very
worried about Trump winning again, because I kind of joke
and I say, I say Trump comes back, is going
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to be no more Mr nice guy. I kind of
joke about that. But because he he now has he's learned.
I would think that he's learned that you have to
have great staff, which I think he actually did have
at the end. He might not, he might not agree
with that, but actually think he really did have good staff,
especially at the end. You have to have great staff,
and you have to hit the rent ground running because
the the the swamp will eat you up. And the
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in this lionizing of the of the military leadership, which
he did, and I talked about this a lot this week,
the lionizing of the generals. Just because someone's called a
general doesn't doesn't it doesn't mean that this is someone
who you have to I think is right on every
single issue in fact, these generals have been brought up
through the ranks of political correctness and diversity, equity inclusion,
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and most of them are just worried about the defense
contractor board that they're gonna land on in five years.
So Trump, I think, has had his eyes opened about
the truth of the bureaucracy, the truth about the Pentagon,
the failures there for for decades and decades we haven't
won a war out right, Why is that? Why don't
we ever ask for accountability on that? And so I
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think that Trump wins this time, Lisa, And he's not
going to talk about draining the swamp. He's going to
drain the swamp you talk about you talk about terrifying
for them, Yeah, that's gonna be terrifying. So I think
I think they pulled out all the stops because Aviator
sunglasses man ain't gonna beat him next time. Yeah, I mean,
he rolled the curtain back on how corrupt and broken
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or government truly is. I think it opened a lot
of eyes. He opened my eyes for sure, really changed
my thinking on a lot of things politically. But ultimately,
isn't this about the annualization to free speech and wrong thing? Oh? Yeah,
I think This is one big intimidation play. And I
think the way they handled January six, I said it.
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I think the first week after the you know, after
the riot at the Capitol, that this was going to
be used as a way to surveil justification for more surveillance, monitoring, intimidation. Uh,
you saw what Justice Department did with this domestic Terror
unit and expanding what actually qualifies as domestic terror. So
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I think they want Americans to think twice before they
show up at a rally, or before they post online,
before they open up a Christian school, Um, you know,
before they go to a gun safety class. I mean,
I I honestly think there Their goal here is to
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make the average American complainant compliant and and and and
and worried and with good and with good reason. I mean,
when you when you're trying to criminalize parents at school
board meetings and call that and tackle a father who's daughter,
who's whose daughter was raped in a bathroom. I mean,
as you saw in that Loudon County video that I
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think changed the whole course of the gubernatorial race and
in Virginia, I mean, this is gestapo stuff. This is
this is stuff that you know when I lived in
the Soviet Union, when I was a student back at Dharmouth.
I mean, I saw that stuff in the Soviet Union.
We were we were scared about who we talked to,
and we were there because we knew we were being watched.
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Without getting too conspiratorial, I mean, how how much farther
down the road do we have to get before we
approach that territory? I mean, I'm pretty fully convinced that
we're probably a monitored to some degree, to be perfectly honest,
but uh, you know, I mean it's just if if
you're you know, if we're being honest about it, Uh,
they're probably tracking us, but you know, we're a Republicans.
Like Mitch McConnell, I think he truly is stunned that
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the party has already left him. I honestly think he
really can't believe that the party is not his party anymore.
It doesn't matter if he's called Senate Majority Leader. The
people aren't with him, and I think it took him
a while to grudgingly admit it. Obviously, in the aftermath
of this raid on Trump, I think he was thinking
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Trump was finished. Trump was murmuring about coming back, but
come on, all right, that's not gonna happen Donald Trump.
I mean, the old guard knows what's best for the
people on trade and immigration and government spending, and and
I think he was truly shocked when, after he was
outmaneuvered on that climate change bill, uh, that the reaction
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to the Trump raid was unify the party around the
guy who has the America first, and not around the
guy who's allowed government to grow and who has never
met a defense authorization that he doesn't like, which is
Mitch McConnell. So I think I think he truly was
shocked about that, and he was shamed into coming out
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and making the most flaccid of statements about this raid,
about oh, well, we're expected Joseus Barbara has to be
very transparent about this. Yeah, no kidding, no kidding, they
have to be transparent about it. But it took him,
you know, a full twenty four hours to make any
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statement that he was only he was shamed into making
that statement about the raid. But again it was a
weak statement. So I think he's I think he's shocked.
I think if they if you know, it's unlikely that
they're going to win the Senate at least, if the
races were held today, the Republicans shockingly might not win
the Senate back. But if they did with the set
it back, Mitch McConnell's position as a majority leader isn't
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a sure thing, that's for sure. Speaking of that, what
what impact do you think this has on the electorate
heading into the mid terms. Well, the raid I think
unifies the party. I think it has the danger of
it has the danger of also stoking Democrat turn out
because Trump's out there again and maybe he'll announce he's
running for president again. And the concern is that they
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hate him so much that now there are people were
going to turn out on Moss as well. But I'm
not sure. I mean, I'm really torn on and I
don't know if I'll have a great answer to this, Lisa,
because it's a tricky situation given how precarious people's personal
budgets are right now. I mean, most people are digging
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into their savings at the middle income levels because their
salaries aren't keeping up with inflation. I mean, somehow today
they crowded about how, oh, inflation is only eight point
five They're celebrating that, what was it? What were they
celebrating like pennies off of gas prices and they think
everyone's paying double, but it's like, oh, you saved twenty
cents or whatever. Yeah, it's a great point. So I
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think that the media will continue to try to resurrect
I should say resuscitate um Biden Biden's performance. Look, he's
got these winds at oh because called the change we
got the we got the chip bill. But celebrating winds
on their own because they were bills were past, that
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doesn't translate into a better life for the average American.
So we'll see how this all plays out. I tend
to believe that it's going to make energy more expensive
and imports of various component parts of solar panels, everything
more more prevalent um. I don't think it's going to
do much to certainly raise the standard of living of
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the average Americans. So I think their celebration or their
attempt to burnish the Biden record or turn around his momentum,
I think that's premature. Were but that's kind of all
they have has been. I don't think it necessarily means
that people in November are gonna say, oh God, I
want more of this. This has been fun. It has
been great. Let's go out and vote for that guy
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when they you know, we haven't even talked about the border.
But I think the immigration is under underpolled as a
concern for people. Um, but I think when the school
year starts, we're gonna have a we're gonna have We're
gonna have a lot more concerned parents out there. Well,
it is hilarious that you've got people like Eric Adams,
You've got Democrats who are saying, oh, you know, diversity
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is or strength, you know, let them come in. We
we need to take all of them. And then the
second buses start showing up to New York City, they're like, oh,
this is gonna overwhelm our schools, overwhelm our healthcare. And
it's like, as Republicans were, like, we've been saying this,
like that's the whole point. Welcome to the club. I
think you're right. And I think again, I think people
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people conflate Trump with with the people's overall sense of
happiness in the country. I mean, you know, Donald Trump
has been a friend of mine for twenty five years
and and I I'm always very open about this on
my on my show. But you know, we'll see whether
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that's what the country wants. I mean, what the country country,
I think is so exhausted. They're exhausted by the battle,
the constant battle that they they may believe that, well,
maybe it's time to turn the page if we can
get someone who has all Trump's policies, who's not Trump right.
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So the other concern though, and I don't have a
position on this one way or another, but the other
problem is is that it's really not about Trump right.
This is about the views that Trump now brought to
the fore for the Republican Party. They don't they don't
like his views. They don't like the fact that he
called out the military for their earliers, that he wanted
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US to pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan, that he
wanted to treat China and our trade relationship with China
in a in a much I mean it was smarter
but much different way than the globalists preferred. And they
certainly didn't like the fact that he sent all those
illegal immigrants back to Mexico that remained in Mexico. I mean,
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they don't they think borders are immoral. They think, uh,
they owning you know, owning big SUVs is immoral. They
think eating too much beef is immoral, having air conditioning
as immoral. These people think that the American way of
life is immoral, and and it doesn't. It doesn't really
matter in the end whether it's Trump making the populous
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conservative points or whether it's the Santists or someone like him.
They're going to come full bar against any Republican, even
an establishment when they saw what they did to Romney.
Romney was a caricature of Thurston Howell the Third by
the time they got done with him back. So yeah,
Trump is a is a is a placeholder right now
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for the higher and fury of the left. But anyone
who steps into that breach is going to find the
same find the same pain being thrust at him or
her quick commercial break back with the Great Lord Ingram.
On the other side, we talked a little bit about
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the economic climate right now in the country. My viewpoint
is they want Americans impoverished, right The whole point of
the Green agenda is to push people to more government control.
The poor people are, the less they have, the more
reliant upon the federal government they are. Well, I think
the more people are relying on the federal government, the
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less freedom. They ultimately have to change their own destiny.
And I think the left prefers things like lockdowns because
then people can't move and pollute the planet. They can't,
they don't think for themselves. The government tells them when
they can travel, when they can go to church, when
they can you know, go to the store. The left
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loves making decisions for the people. They don't want the
people to have the power. And that's why the lockdowns
were so damaging to our national psyche, to our to
our way of life too, the way people think about life.
You know, when you see people walking around in two
and three masks still, you know, this has had a
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profound effect on the American you know, American people, and
it's terrifying. Thank god we had these red state governors
who basically, you know, flip the bird to the to
the Feds, into the into the Blue States and said
we're not stay closed. Are you kidding me? I mean,
it's thank god we had the Red States, Otherwise I
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don't know where economy would be today. I mean, I
moved down to Florida for that reason of leaving New
York wanting freedom. So smart I love it, Laura, I
mean it's like life has just been so great here.
I don't I don't miss New York at all, to
be honest, it's it's been lovely New York. Sadly one
of the great cities is turned into a crime ridden hell.
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It's gone back. So New York has gone back to
what it was in the eighties and seventies, and after
Julian they cleaned it up. Now it's going back and
rents are still high. Everything is still expensive. And you know,
the left got their way because now a lot of
people have moved out and so the subway ridership is
down meaning meaning what meaning more, the public public structures
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that they love so much are crumbling, so you don't
have money to When you don't have people going into
the city to work, then the city start to decay.
So that's that's the flip side of there. Oh isn't
it great? Remote work? Everyone's at home, no one's going
in the office. Okay, well you tell, Let's see what
the cities are looking like in five years. Let's see,
let's see how they look. Do you think Americans are
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now connecting the dots and the correlation, as you mentioned,
you know, the bigger, the centralized government. The bigger the government,
the more problems we have, the worse off we are
as citizens. Do you think people are finally drawing you
know that correlation after COVID? I think more are and
it's going to take a continued effort to educate, entertain
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and inspire the voters uh to seal that message. And again,
people forget that Reagan campaign in all fifty states. I
believe it was almost all fifty states, and he finished
up his campaign in I believe it was in the Bronx,
So he went everywhere. It was a different world, obviously,
and we have social media and all the everything that
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we have now. But I I maintain that the this
populous movement has to be a fifty state movement. There's
no reason that we should have twelve, you know, Democrats
in New England in the U. S. Senate, even even
if they're even if sometimes they're called Republicans, they act
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like Democrats. There's no reason for that. I mean, these
are great states. I grew up in Connecticut. It's a
beautiful state. So it's not gonna happen overnight. I will
say that again. But I really believe that our motto
should be no state left behind, no city left behind.
You know, we love this country, We love every aspect
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of the country, and we refuse to give up on St. Louis,
on Chicago, on Oakland, on Hartford. We we we were
not going to give up on you. The left is
given up on you. They use you. We're not going
to do that for you. Here's a better way. And
I think I think the more we sell that message
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and and not and be unafraid. It's easy to say,
but we really have to be on a fraid. Oh
they're gonna protest you. Of course they're gonna protest. They're
gonna hate you. Of Of course they're gonna hate you. They're
gonna call you a racist. Absolutely, we'll call you a racist,
now what. So that that's how I think we have
to approach all this. And I think that's the point.
I mean, Republicans just need they need to stop looking
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for a pat on the head from the liberal media.
Understand that we're all going to be we're all gonna
be smeared, we're gonna be labeled. We all have. But
I do think part of the path forward is through
the states. I mean, we've got twenty three g P states,
with trifecta government. If every governor in those states bucked
up in the way that governor to Santa says, the
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federal government wouldn't have as much of an impact on
their lives. Yeah, I mean most most governmance happens at
the state level and the local level. That's why I
think you're seeing more people run for school board and
more people are getting involved. And I've ever seen from
a wide you know, range of American society. Oh, and
I think that's that's good. But we we do have
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to remember the states is where most of it happens.
And we can't we can't. We can't just throw up
our hands and say, oh, California has lost forever. No,
it isn't a lost forever. It's look at what they've
done to California. You think people want to live that way?
I don't think so. But they do have a party
machine that that that that churns out votes every you know,
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every two years. And we have to build back ard
my our machine there. We used to have a party
machine there. Where is it? So? I think I think
if people believe that immigrants came to this country just
to live at the poverty line, I don't think you're
really understanding politics too well. I think people, for the
most part. I'm not talking about the drug dealers and
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the human traffickers, but most immigrants who have come here
to this country in the last twenty years, they came
here because they want a better life, and and in
the life that they're consigned to with with just you know,
the minimum that the government will provide you in the
quote safety net, that's not much. And I think we
(29:07):
say stopped. It's time to stop demonizing rich people and
start telling everyone if you work hard, you can be
rich too, and free. And I think that's I mean, look,
I want to be rich. I'd love to be rich,
but I want everyone else to be rich to, you know,
the left ones to be rich and then drag everyone
else down and make it impossible for them to also
get ahead. You know, Laura, is there anything you know?
(29:28):
It really does feel like this upcoming midterm election is
sort of a make or break moment for the country.
But is there anything else you'd like to leave us
with before we go? I think, um, all of us,
and at times that seem so turbulent, and everything seems
like it's operating on a knife's edge. I do think
in this sounds that cliche, I know, but everybody has
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to take the time to just be with their friends
and their family without a political moment, you know, with
out of without politics tinging every aspect of our conversation,
life goes by really fast, really really fast. So everybody,
(30:11):
to the extent that you can take, even if it's
an afternoon or an hour, take time away from devices
and screens and really be together and and pray regularly.
If you if you're a believer, pray. I mean sometimes
we say we are believers that they don't. We don't
really listen to what God's telling us. And I'm guilty
of that. Um, I'm just really speaking to myself here.
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But step away from the chaos of of of life
and and take those moments to really count your blessings
and be grateful for everything that we have in this
country and all those who sacrifice for us. And then
you can, you know, pick yourself back up, and you know,
get back to work, whatever your work is, do a
great job, and and and really try to love each
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other a lot more. And it's not easy when you
when you really just someone. I always tell my kids
when someone fights with them or says something I said,
pray for them. It's easy to like the people who
are who are good to you, it's hard to pray
for the people who are not so good to you.
So I guess that's my staffie way to to close
out well, and that means we're praying for a lot
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of people. It's a long list, Laura, so we got
a lot of work to do. Laura Ingram, it's an honor.
I really respect you, I respect your voice, and it's
just an honor to have you on the show. So
thank you so much for taking the time. Congrats on
the podcast. Can't wait to come back and come on
(31:37):
TV soon. Love it, Laura, thank you so much. I
really appreciate it. We'll talk to you certinly, so bye bye.
What's that cool? I've always been a huge fan of
Laura ingram. I. I love people who are into, pendently minded,
(32:01):
who fight for what they believe, who are strong in
their opinions, and that's Laura. So very cool for her
to join the show. It truly was an honor to
have her on. I hope you enjoyed it. I hope
you're enjoying the show. If you do please leave us
a review on Apple you know, give us five stars,
rate us, leave us a review. We we always appreciate
the feedback. It's just helpful to know what you think.
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I also want to thank my executive producer, John Cassio.
We're always working hard to put the show together every
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