December 16, 2024 • 30 mins
In this episode, Lisa discusses the political landscape with Congressman Chip Roy, focusing on the Republican Party's trifecta of power in 2025. The conversation highlights the optimism surrounding this scenario and delves into key issues such as border security, government spending, and bureaucratic reform. Congressman Roy emphasizes the need for significant changes, including securing the border, reducing government spending, and reforming welfare programs. He also addresses the challenges within Congress and the importance of strong leadership. The Truth with Lisa Boothe is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network - new episodes debut every Monday & Thursday.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Republicans are walking into twenty twenty five with a trifecta
of government power. We'll have Donald Trump's need to be
President Trump at the helm at the White House, will
have a majority in the House and a majority in
the Senate as well. So what will get done, what
can get done? What sort of barriers might there be?
And when you look at vivik Ramaswami and Elon Musk
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with Doje, what can they get done? How much can
we shake up Washington DC over the next four years.
We'll talk to a guy who's done his homework, who's
very outspoken about the need to cut spending and reform government.
His name is Congressmanship Roy from Texas. He's been a
guest of the show a few different times. Very smart man,
very outspoken, truly believes in everything he says.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
So we'll talk to him.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
We'll lean on him about what he hopes to accomplish
in Congress and then also what can get done over
the next four years. Stay tuned for Congressman ship. Roy Well,
Congressmanship Roy, it's great to have you on. A lot's
changed since the last time I had you on. You know,
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things that were looking pretty bleak and now they're looking
pretty optimistic.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Yeah, I could agree more Merry Christmas. Right, It's exactly,
it's it's a new day. And uh and look, I'm
I'm I've got a certain you know amount of cynicism
after my time in Washington as a stafford, as a
member about you know, the way this talent operates. But
but for the first time in a long time, I
feel like we've got the makings of real change. But
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it's going to take the courage to do it. And
that's where I think I've been focusing a lot of
my time on is trying to really define the expectations
to force some of my colleagues in Capitol Hill, but
also my friends and administration to recognize it's game time
and there are no there's no room for its uses,
there's no there's no room for failure here. So I
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think I think we've got to deliver, but I'm excited
about what we can do if we do it.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Yeah, and I think the mandate of the popular vote
behind President Trump really helps as well, you know, because
it's hard it's harder to legitimize him, which is what
they tried to do during his first term. When he's
got the power of the people behind him. So I'm
hoping that that extends to Congress as well in getting
some of these things done.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
You had mentioned kind of like.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Thinking through about what you hope that this Republican trifecta
of government can accomplish. I guess what are those things?
If you could outline them, you know, what would you know?
What are your hopes for the next four years? And
then outside of that, what do you think is actually attainable?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
So let me make a picture of what we should do. Yeah,
we talked about the barriers in Congress to achieving that
and what we need to do to break them down
to achieve it. What we should do is fully and
firmly deliver on border security in a transformational way. Uh.
That means giving the president the resources right out of
the gate through some sort of reconciliation package, literally in
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januine to his desk, get it done. Given the resources,
give Tom Mahome and the resources to secure the border
cbp Ice two eighty seven g working with local law enforcement,
building the wall, all the things we need to do,
and importantly began immediately doing removals and repatriation. We have
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to do that. You've got to undo the damage of
the Biden administration. And it's not just criminals. It is
the massive drain on the welfare state. It is the
massive suck on tax credits, child tax credits, snap, all
of the benefits that are laid out that are all
going to be available for people who have been prolled
into our country in violational law. So that's I'm not
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going to nerd out on the border too much, but
it's the singular.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I mean, we've got time, Congressman, you can nerd out
as much as you want.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Well, it was it looked the President ran on it
in twenty sixteen. I want to remind my colleagues it's
not good enough just to back the clock up a
couple of years. In twenty sixteen, he was running on
building the wall. He was running on securing the border.
Because it was failed then and now it's extentially worse.
That's why we need transformational change. Get in secure the border,
stop the flow, reset the expectations around the world, remove people,
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get criminals out, clean up our streets, get people off
the public dole, End welfare not just for aliens but
for American citizens, get rid of all the welfare reform.
It but then importantly pass the laws to make sure
that no future president can ever do again to the
American people what Joe Biden and my work is and
Harris did to the American people. We need HR two.
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We need serious reform. And know, I don't want to
hear about amnesty, and I don't want to hear about
what's happening with visas until this crap is fixed, including
fixing the law on parole, asylum and all the uses.
So there's bucket one. Bucket two is destroy the bureaucratic state,
destroy it, end it, fire them, cut their their funding,
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not just doge, not just finding, you know, crap programs
that we need to cut. That's all good, it's important,
and I love what Elan and mcbecker doing on but
we need to go over a sledgehammer. We need to
just absolutely decimate the bureaucratic state. That's bucket two. Bucket
three is we need to truly transform the overall spending,
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including mandatory spending, so that we can eliminate deficits. We've
got to. We're thirty six million dollars in debt and
we can do that and it'll transform the country. And
so those are the kinds of things I'm looking at,
and I can go down the log list of other things.
Make sure our military is strong again and sparingly used,
but it's the best military in the world. Make sure
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we have energy freedom, get rid of all the regulations
that are destroying our country. But a lot of that
comes in my bigger package, which to cut the spending,
cut the bureaucrats, attack that bureaucratic state, and we can
We can do a lot of things we need to do.
And if you cut deficits, then you're going to achieve
the energy free them a healthcare freedom that we need
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to do because the only way to get deficits down
is to do those things. So that's my launtery list
of stuff. The barriers are the bureaucrats themselves and the
Congress that never met a bureaucrat they didn't want a
fund and then go campaign against because that's what Congress does.
Republicans love to go around talking about, Ooh, I hate
the bureaucratic state. We need to cut it us up,
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and they go write the check. They go in, there's
a check. You don't understand, is the only way you
can do it. Got to cut a deal. Oh, we'll
spend all the money, and they don't like to be
called out for it. So if you want to succeed,
if you want President Trump to succeed, you need transformational legislation,
and that's what we have to do to deliver.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
You know, I think one good thing about this incoming administration,
and obviously having voices like yours in Congress, is that
you have a lot of people that he's surrounding himself
with that does trust government, and some of them have
been on the receiving end of government as well. And
then you have business guys who like if someone comes
to them and says, oh, we can't do that, they're
going to be like what why figure it out?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
You know, it's a different mentality.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
So you know, I guess, how do you think that
could impact the ability to get things done? Just you know,
having a lot of outsiders and people who they don't
like government.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
So there's a headline on Fox right now says f
DA box on rejecting ultra processed foods. Right like there
it is right, That's precisely what we're dealing with. And
you know, I've got good friends over there, Marty McCarey.
You know, We've got people that are going to come
in and shake things up. You know, Jay Boticharia over
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there in healthy and Bobby Kennedy. Never thought you'd ask
me two years ago that I'd be sitting here going, man,
I'm the biggest proponent of having Bobby Kennedy go shake
things up. That'll agree with them on everything, clearly, but
having someone go challenge that status quo, having Tulsi challenge
the intelligence and deep state, having Pete Hegsett take on
the brass when we have way too many freaking three
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star generals and four star generals who are going around
leaping out DEI nonsense and affirmative action and critical raise
theory garbage while they've pat themselves on the back. We
need people who are going to go in and gut
all of that stuff. So to your point, yes, the
President has done a good job. Great job, dare I
say since early November picking people who are disruptors. You know,
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Cash will be a disruptor at the FBI. We need that.
And so look, you know my friend Russ vote over
the Office of Management budget. He'll do a great job.
He's a very good friend. But we've got a lot
of work to do, and we've got to be serious
about it. And the biggest obstacles are going to be
fifty three Senators and the two hundred and nineteen currently
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two hundred and twenty Republicans getting in the boat and
rowing rather than finding excuses. And it's going to take
the President telling Congress to get their craft together. But
it's also going to take leadership in the House. It's
going to take the Speaker leading into the fight, driving
the train. It's going to take Majority Leader Thoon. But
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it's going to take some of us getting in and
pushing hard. Like I mean, I can tell you all
of the tax cutters in the world, and I believe
in tax cuts that I don't want to see a
tax increase, But don't come to my office and bring
me a tax cut bill without all of the spending
cuts we need to get to get deficits down. I
will vote no. I just want everybody to understand, I
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will not vote for a tax cut bill unless we
have the spending cuts necessary to drive deficits down.
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You know you had mentioned sort of some of the
resistance within the party. I mean, we're we're kind of
seeing some of that in the Senate with you know,
as we approach confirmations for some of these nominees with
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you know, unfortunately, even people like Senator Joni Ernst, who
represents an incredibly red state that went for Donald Trump.
If I remember or I think by like fifty six percent,
like I actually I have more deference for someone like
Senator Susan Collins because you know, she represents a blue
state and so you know, buy being like fifty percent
with the party she's actually is representing the state that
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she serves, Whereas like I have no tolerance for people
in red states or red districts that don't don't execute
on the will of their people. And you know, you
look at Iowa like they want they wanted Trump to win,
and they want Tom just round himself with the people
he wants, So like, I just have no tolerance for that,
particularly when the accusations are bunk, like against Pete Hegseth,
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if he had did the things that he's been accused of,
the police would.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Have pressed charges.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
So it's like I just you know, we're kind of
already seeing that.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
A little bit, getting a little bit of a glimpse
of it.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Well, you know, I couldn't agree more. You know, I
got in a little bit of trouble because I went
down to the floor and I directly took on and
criticized Senator Arnt. And look, I mean, I don't have
any animus towards her, you know, as an individual basis.
But you know, look, she's been an advocate for drafting
my daughter. She can pound sands. You're not drafting my daughter.
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She's been an advocate for you know, I think she
had a bad vote on gay marriage. She's had bad
votes on a bunch of nominees over there, you know.
And it's just kind of the same old, same old,
and I'm tired of it. And to your point about
red states, how many red state losers can you send
to Congress and the Senate? Like it happens all the time,
Like go look, it's embarrassing. I'm not going to go
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name check, but just take a look at the map
America and go go red state by red state and
tell me how good you think they're doing. It's embarrassing.
And the Senate's particularly bad, but the House is bad too,
and we need to do a much better job in primaries,
and we need to send people to reflect our values
to Washington if we want to get changed right now,
we're going to have to rely on the president in
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a razor thin majority, bucking up Congress to do the
right thing. The good news is a lot of Americans
agree and they expect us to deliver, and a lot
of people in Congress are recognizing the need to deliver.
But we're going to have to do it, and we're
going to have to force through it. And I think
we can do it, but we're gonna have to organize
ourselves in the House of Representatives to have leaders who
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will sit around the table to make this happen. And
we got we got some more work to do to
make that work.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
It was interesting earlier when you had mentioned the border wall.
I was kind of thinking to myself that it's kind
of hilarious that that ever became controversial, because you would
think it's just like a common sense solution, right, like
fence's work, borders work, you know, like it just makes sense.
And yet it was, you know, so heavily criticized and
you know, reported as this like terrible thing. You know,
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like it's just like looking back, it's just sort of fun.
It was just kind of giggling in myself about how
crazy that is.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Yeah, I lived through that. I was a Senate Judiciary
lawyer when we were working on border security and immigration
bills back during the Bush administration two thousand and six,
two thousand and seven, again when I was out of
recruitsey achieve of staff, when the whole Gang of Eight
thing happened twenty thirteen, and so I lived through all
of the mockery by a lot of Republicans are still
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in office who used phrases like, oh, a fence chip
that is a nineteenth century solution for a twentieth century
problem or twenty first century problem, depending on where we were,
And you know, you just look at them and go, oh, really,
so you're going to go take the fence down around
your house or oh, you're going to go to the
White House and say, well, just take the fence down.
Fences don't work, right, you're a Texan, mister president then
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President Bush, you go around your ranch in Crawford, you
just take the fence down. You don't need a fence.
Like it's absurd, Like it's facially absurd. But it took
President Trump running on it so that now all Republicans
are like, oh, okay, yeah, I guess I'm for the
wall because I got to be for the wall now.
To be clear, a wall is absolutely irrelevant if an
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administration can abuse the law like Biden did to use
Parolan asylum to just dump people into the country. So
you can build one hundred foot wall one hundred foot
wide from the Gulf of Mexico to Pacific Ocean, but
if you allow your federal government to violate the law
of dump people in the U the States, the wall
is worthless. That's why we need permanent law change. And
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I'm not going to accept a lot of other bills
until I see permanent law change on the border.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Do we know because I know with well, first of
we also need mass deportations, and I know that's met
with Oh it's not practical, but I think that's just
you need to have the will to get it done.
Do we have a good assessment of how much legal
immigration costs the country?
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Oh? Man, I mean that is a loaded question. Yeah,
the recent kind of like analysis in front of me,
I'll answer it any more like willout giving you a
number because someone haven't front of me. I mean, what
I'll tell you is number one on the removal and
repatriation is how I'm referred to it because I think
it's important because removal is a normal thing under law.
We have one point three million currently under orders for
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removal in our country right now that this administration and
ICE refuse to go find and remove. So we should
do that to be removed. It's a normal course of
our law. You're here legally, we remove you. We need
to do that and send them to their own countries.
There's nothing wrong with that. But on the cost. You know,
for years the Chamber of Commerce and all the apologists
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have said, oh they all more. They pay for themselves,
you know, because of employment. Look, hold on a second.
Milton Friedman was correct when he said in the nineteen
seventies he's all four open borders kind of libertarian worldview.
If you don't have a social welfare state, well, guess what.
We have the biggest social welfare state in the world.
It's frankly incomprehensibly big. And people come here and they
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have birthright babies, and then they come here and they
get tax credits, earned income tax credits, child tax credits.
Did you know all of these parolees under the law
in five years after they're here, they can get snap benefits,
they can get food stamps, they can get you look
by the way under in talent and go to the hospital.
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Under plyler Vedo a terrible Supreme Court decision, they can
go to school. And the local schools have to pay,
and all the local law enforcement have to pay and
deal with it. We're going to have to pay to
set up facilities to process these parole requests and asylum
requests with their notices to appear in court. Meanwhile, they're
going to get benefits and perpetuity and they're gonna have
a child after child after child. That then they're going
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to claim birthright, citizenship anchor babies and that they can
be removed. That is all garbage, and it all has
to change.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
You know, when you look at the thirty six trillion
dollar debt, I think a lot of Americans go, Okay,
you know, obviously that doesn't sound good. That can be good,
but it's hard to like conceptualize how that's bad for them.
So I guess what would you say to the American
people of why that thirty six trillion dollar debt is
bad for the country?
Speaker 2 (17:45):
And bad for them as well.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
So here's the way I try to describe it. At
thirty six trillion dollars in debt and rapidly climbing interest
rates are up, our debts getting refinanced at hire and
hire interest rates, and we're bleeding out about, you know,
frankly over two trillion dollars a year, and probably more
so if you think about all of that, people, well,
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I don't know what that means. Well, i'll tell you
what it means that we are now spending over a
trillion dollars in interest every year. Say well, I don't
know what that means. Well, it's more than our entire
national defense budget by a decent amount. That starts to
wake people up. They go, okay, well that sounds bad, right,
that sounds like that's bad. But then I try to
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put it in terms of it. And my friend Thomas
Massey did a great job of this in a rules
committee hearing where I was talking about and he took
my ice tea I had there, and he pulled every
put it in a glass and they poured water into
the ice tea and you just watch that dark tea
dilute into you know, kind of dirty looking water. That's
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what we're doing to the US dollar. That's what we're
doing to the financial health of our country because the
FED is just printing money. I had a reporter a
minute ago. They came up to me and said, what,
mister Roy, what are you going to do on the
CR next week? That's the Continual Resolution to fund government?
I said, I am inclined to support a continual resolution
until March spending at current levels, even though it's not
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my favorite thing, in order to get to the Trump administration,
so we can basically get the adults in the room
at omb to work with the Congress to hopefully deliver
on reduce spending. But it's going to have attached to
it a disaster supplemental for the horrors that occurred down
in the southeast of about one hundred billion dollars one
hundred billion dollars unpaid for. I said, I can't do that.
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I'll goo no. And he was like, well, but you
mean you can't. You think you got to pay for
it even though it's a disaster. I said, what are
you talking about? Like when something happens at your house
and something bad happens, you don't just go to the
printing press and print money to deal with the problem,
because you can't the federal government is in the business
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of the printing money. We are destroying our country, but worse,
we're destroying common sense. Everybody assumes that the veveeral government's
going to bail them out of every flipping mess they create,
or that they have to deal with, or some horror
that they deal with. I'm a cancer survivor. Cancer's horrible,
But I have to sit in my office where I'm
sitting right now when people come in and say, mister Roy,
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we need five hundred million dollars for this cancer research,
and I'll say, well, can we pay for it? I'm
to paid for it. Well, I'm sorry. Right at some
point you have to be able to be the adult
in the room and say it's Christmas time. There's no
more room in the end, and that's what we have
to do.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
So I have a weird theory that I just thought
of that I think sort of like this online shopping
culture has sort of seeped into Congress as well, where
everything is so easily, you know, you just like purchase this,
you get this, you go on Amazon, and so we
don't take money as seriously as maybe we did before
when it wasn't as easy to buy things and to
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have the things that we want.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
You know, that's not a bad there.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Certainly I thought of this.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
You know, there's a cultural problem, and you know it
could be related to that or just generally, but certainly
this notion. Right now, it's like withholding money in your paycheck, right,
It's like, well, you never feel the sting of writing
to check the government, but now we print money. And
so one of the questions I've asked in the Budget
Committee and here is like, why do we tax anybody
at all? Like if it doesn't matter. Right, Right now
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we take in about pushing five trillion, like four point
seven or eight trillion whatever it is a year, that's
our revenues, right, but we're spending six and a half now,
pushing seven like two trillion more than that, right, So
my question is like, well, I mean that's bad. Like
anybody gets that, Like if your income is one hundred
thousand dollars, but your outflows are you know something in
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the zip code of one hundred and thirty thousand dollars,
everybody would understand that's bad. Right, You can't do that
at some point you do want to do your savings
or you you know you're in debt. So my my
here is to you and everybody listening to this, is
why do we have taxes at all? Just zero it
out and print the money. But then, but then the
economists I'll go, well you can't do that. I'm like,
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well why not. We're printing it for the two trillion.
We're printing it for one hundred billion dollars because we
feel bad for people in North Carolina and Georgia. We
shouldn't do that. So what I said, and I said
to some other college by the way, I had some
Wench donors giving me crap because I said, I don't
want to give more money to Ukraine. We had another
one hundred billion going to Ukraine and and they were complaining,
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ship you don't understand it. You got to do it.
This is you know Churchill. We got to do it,
save the world. Okay, let me assume you believe that
you that you're correct. We should pay for it. Oh well,
I mean, you know, but we just got to do it.
I tell you what you're you're a wealthy individual. Your
current tax rate is thirty seven percent. If I raise
your tax rate to the Clinton Air a tax rate
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of forty three percent for a year. I will pay
for that one hundred billion dollars for Ukraine crickets. I
haven't heard a complaint with that individual.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
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objectives of the incoming Trump administrations also to reform government,
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particularly looking at areas like the FBI. I know that
political appointees, it's it's easy to you know, you can
fire them. The civil servants have statutory civil service protection.
I know that in on the towards the end of
his administration, he issued an executive order that reclassified categories
of federal employees, basically making them at will employees and
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more easily fireable. But I guess how hard do you
think it'll be to fire people? And then like what
sort of things do you think they can do to
get rid of the dead weight or even worse, to
get rid of, you know, the deep state and people
actively resisting what this new administration wants to accomplish.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
So on this one, I'm going to be a little
careful about not getting in front of the administration and
in front of Roz, Stephen Miller, Susie in the White House.
All the people are going to make decision about how
they want to go about firing bureaucrats, but their gun.
And there are ways to do it, and as you
said in the order and schedule, apps and other things
that you can do to remove bureaucrats. But there are
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barriers and we need I think, some legislative fixes on
that front. And we're going to have to work through that, right.
I mean, I introduced legislation I think I don't know
four years ago now I can't remember, and have introduced
in each Congress that basically makes all government employees at will.
Now I get a little blowback from some of my friends,
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particularly the law enforcement community, and they're like, well, that'll
just be used by a bad administration, by a Biden
administration or whatever. We'll be used against them, you know, politically,
they'll be used as a weapon, they'll fire the good guys. Well,
there is some concern with that. I get that, but
I think we've got to figure out what the right
way to do it is. You know it can you
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aspire at will? Anybody who's above a GS thirteen? You know,
can you fire? How to just think through what we
need to do. But we've got to free up the
unitary executive. The president has to be able to come
in and has to be able to run the federal
government as he or she was elected to do. So
we must do it. There's no choice. And you know
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what it looks like. I think we'll have to kind
of work through with the administration, but we're going to
have to find a way to allow the president to
do that. All right.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
So we're ending on a positive note because we're heading
into twenty twenty five or heading to Christmas. We've got
it new administration. Things are much more positive than the
last time we've talk to you. What are you the
most optimistic about over the next four years.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Look from a personal level, it might be one thing
from his family and life and you.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Know anything, the world's yst birth, the birth.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Birth sav Or Jesus Christ and celebrating that. You know
what I'm most optimistic about is is, and this is
going to sound kind of nebulous, is that there's a
generation of kids now that I believe have looked at
crazy and has said I don't like that, And that
there is a hope to reclaim what made America great
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and what will make America great again, and that is
to re establish the American ethos that you come here,
you work, and when I talk to him, I only
give you an example, a perfect example of somebody who
gives me hope. And there are the people's like Riley Gaines,
who's out there challenging all the DEI crap and all
the trans in sports, Chloe Cole who's challenging the mutilation
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of young children. And she's wonderful, she testified in our hearings.
But there was a woman in Texas, Alexis nunger Ay,
and she's twenty seven years old and her twelve year
old daughter, Joscelyn, who she gave birth to when she
was I think fifteen. She chose life, but unfortunately Joscelyn
was taken from her, from us, from the world by
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violent members of Venezuelan gangs in Houston released by Biden
under these ridiculous Parle programs. Alexis has been a rock star.
She's gone out in campaigning. She stared down the most
radical levesge. She wasn't that political. And I was talking
to her about her family who came here, and her
parents and her grandparents when they came here. Grandfather refused
to take any of the handouts or benefits or any
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of that stuff, said I came here to achieved the American dream,
to learn and to earn my way. That is the
American wave. Ted Cruise's dad, who came here from Cuba
with one hundred bucks sewed into his boxer shorts, worked
at a diner in a building that's still right there
next to the University of Texas where he worked his
way through his school in Austin. That's the American dream.
My grandmother was a single mom in West Texas raising
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my dad, who had polio. After she lost my grandfather
to cancer. She didn't come to the government asking for help.
She had two jobs and then became the first woman
elected county clerk in a rural West Texas county in
nineteen fifty I think two or three. That's the American dream.
No more excuses, Let's stop the nonsense. I am so
excited about of re establishing the American dream for a
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new generation Generation X that came of age under Ronald Reagan.
We're the ones who are now aging into running this country.
Thank God for the most part. With all due respect,
President Trump's the exception from the boomer generation who wants
to save America. But we now have a new generation
coming in who can join him that will be staffed
around him to save this country from the failures of
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the previous generation. That is the first generation to make
our country worse off when they handed it down. We're
going to save it and the new generation coming in
are going to be with us to re establish the
American dream.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Well, I'm not going to argue with that. Very well,
said Congressman ship Roy. Enjoy having you on the show.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
So glad to be able to have a more optimistic
conversation than some of the ones passed with under the
Biden administration. So a lot to look forward to and
really appreciate your time, sir, and Merry Christmas.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Thanks Le's God bless and merry Christmas.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
That was Congressman ship Roy of Texas. Appreciate him for
joining the show. Appreciate you guys at home for listening
every Monday and Thursday, but you can listen throughout the week.
I would to thank John Cassio, my producer, for putting
the show together.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Until next time,
Republicans are walking into twenty twenty five with a trifecta
of government power. We'll have Donald Trump's need to be
President Trump at the helm at the White House, will
have a majority in the House and a majority in
the Senate as well. So what will get done, what
can get done? What sort of barriers might there be?
And when you look at vivik Ramaswami and Elon Musk
(00:21):
with Doje, what can they get done? How much can
we shake up Washington DC over the next four years.
We'll talk to a guy who's done his homework, who's
very outspoken about the need to cut spending and reform government.
His name is Congressmanship Roy from Texas. He's been a
guest of the show a few different times. Very smart man,
very outspoken, truly believes in everything he says.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
So we'll talk to him.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
We'll lean on him about what he hopes to accomplish
in Congress and then also what can get done over
the next four years. Stay tuned for Congressman ship. Roy Well,
Congressmanship Roy, it's great to have you on. A lot's
changed since the last time I had you on. You know,
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things that were looking pretty bleak and now they're looking
pretty optimistic.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Yeah, I could agree more Merry Christmas. Right, It's exactly,
it's it's a new day. And uh and look, I'm
I'm I've got a certain you know amount of cynicism
after my time in Washington as a stafford, as a
member about you know, the way this talent operates. But
but for the first time in a long time, I
feel like we've got the makings of real change. But
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it's going to take the courage to do it. And
that's where I think I've been focusing a lot of
my time on is trying to really define the expectations
to force some of my colleagues in Capitol Hill, but
also my friends and administration to recognize it's game time
and there are no there's no room for its uses,
there's no there's no room for failure here. So I
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think I think we've got to deliver, but I'm excited
about what we can do if we do it.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Yeah, and I think the mandate of the popular vote
behind President Trump really helps as well, you know, because
it's hard it's harder to legitimize him, which is what
they tried to do during his first term. When he's
got the power of the people behind him. So I'm
hoping that that extends to Congress as well in getting
some of these things done.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
You had mentioned kind of like.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Thinking through about what you hope that this Republican trifecta
of government can accomplish. I guess what are those things?
If you could outline them, you know, what would you know?
What are your hopes for the next four years? And
then outside of that, what do you think is actually attainable?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
So let me make a picture of what we should do. Yeah,
we talked about the barriers in Congress to achieving that
and what we need to do to break them down
to achieve it. What we should do is fully and
firmly deliver on border security in a transformational way. Uh.
That means giving the president the resources right out of
the gate through some sort of reconciliation package, literally in
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januine to his desk, get it done. Given the resources,
give Tom Mahome and the resources to secure the border
cbp Ice two eighty seven g working with local law enforcement,
building the wall, all the things we need to do,
and importantly began immediately doing removals and repatriation. We have
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to do that. You've got to undo the damage of
the Biden administration. And it's not just criminals. It is
the massive drain on the welfare state. It is the
massive suck on tax credits, child tax credits, snap, all
of the benefits that are laid out that are all
going to be available for people who have been prolled
into our country in violational law. So that's I'm not
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going to nerd out on the border too much, but
it's the singular.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I mean, we've got time, Congressman, you can nerd out
as much as you want.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Well, it was it looked the President ran on it
in twenty sixteen. I want to remind my colleagues it's
not good enough just to back the clock up a
couple of years. In twenty sixteen, he was running on
building the wall. He was running on securing the border.
Because it was failed then and now it's extentially worse.
That's why we need transformational change. Get in secure the border,
stop the flow, reset the expectations around the world, remove people,
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get criminals out, clean up our streets, get people off
the public dole, End welfare not just for aliens but
for American citizens, get rid of all the welfare reform.
It but then importantly pass the laws to make sure
that no future president can ever do again to the
American people what Joe Biden and my work is and
Harris did to the American people. We need HR two.
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We need serious reform. And know, I don't want to
hear about amnesty, and I don't want to hear about
what's happening with visas until this crap is fixed, including
fixing the law on parole, asylum and all the uses.
So there's bucket one. Bucket two is destroy the bureaucratic state,
destroy it, end it, fire them, cut their their funding,
(04:57):
not just doge, not just finding, you know, crap programs
that we need to cut. That's all good, it's important,
and I love what Elan and mcbecker doing on but
we need to go over a sledgehammer. We need to
just absolutely decimate the bureaucratic state. That's bucket two. Bucket
three is we need to truly transform the overall spending,
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including mandatory spending, so that we can eliminate deficits. We've
got to. We're thirty six million dollars in debt and
we can do that and it'll transform the country. And
so those are the kinds of things I'm looking at,
and I can go down the log list of other things.
Make sure our military is strong again and sparingly used,
but it's the best military in the world. Make sure
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we have energy freedom, get rid of all the regulations
that are destroying our country. But a lot of that
comes in my bigger package, which to cut the spending,
cut the bureaucrats, attack that bureaucratic state, and we can
We can do a lot of things we need to do.
And if you cut deficits, then you're going to achieve
the energy free them a healthcare freedom that we need
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to do because the only way to get deficits down
is to do those things. So that's my launtery list
of stuff. The barriers are the bureaucrats themselves and the
Congress that never met a bureaucrat they didn't want a
fund and then go campaign against because that's what Congress does.
Republicans love to go around talking about, Ooh, I hate
the bureaucratic state. We need to cut it us up,
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and they go write the check. They go in, there's
a check. You don't understand, is the only way you
can do it. Got to cut a deal. Oh, we'll
spend all the money, and they don't like to be
called out for it. So if you want to succeed,
if you want President Trump to succeed, you need transformational legislation,
and that's what we have to do to deliver.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
You know, I think one good thing about this incoming administration,
and obviously having voices like yours in Congress, is that
you have a lot of people that he's surrounding himself
with that does trust government, and some of them have
been on the receiving end of government as well. And
then you have business guys who like if someone comes
to them and says, oh, we can't do that, they're
going to be like what why figure it out?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
You know, it's a different mentality.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
So you know, I guess, how do you think that
could impact the ability to get things done? Just you know,
having a lot of outsiders and people who they don't
like government.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
So there's a headline on Fox right now says f
DA box on rejecting ultra processed foods. Right like there
it is right, That's precisely what we're dealing with. And
you know, I've got good friends over there, Marty McCarey.
You know, We've got people that are going to come
in and shake things up. You know, Jay Boticharia over
(07:35):
there in healthy and Bobby Kennedy. Never thought you'd ask
me two years ago that I'd be sitting here going, man,
I'm the biggest proponent of having Bobby Kennedy go shake
things up. That'll agree with them on everything, clearly, but
having someone go challenge that status quo, having Tulsi challenge
the intelligence and deep state, having Pete Hegsett take on
the brass when we have way too many freaking three
(07:57):
star generals and four star generals who are going around
leaping out DEI nonsense and affirmative action and critical raise
theory garbage while they've pat themselves on the back. We
need people who are going to go in and gut
all of that stuff. So to your point, yes, the
President has done a good job. Great job, dare I
say since early November picking people who are disruptors. You know,
(08:17):
Cash will be a disruptor at the FBI. We need that.
And so look, you know my friend Russ vote over
the Office of Management budget. He'll do a great job.
He's a very good friend. But we've got a lot
of work to do, and we've got to be serious
about it. And the biggest obstacles are going to be
fifty three Senators and the two hundred and nineteen currently
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two hundred and twenty Republicans getting in the boat and
rowing rather than finding excuses. And it's going to take
the President telling Congress to get their craft together. But
it's also going to take leadership in the House. It's
going to take the Speaker leading into the fight, driving
the train. It's going to take Majority Leader Thoon. But
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it's going to take some of us getting in and
pushing hard. Like I mean, I can tell you all
of the tax cutters in the world, and I believe
in tax cuts that I don't want to see a
tax increase, But don't come to my office and bring
me a tax cut bill without all of the spending
cuts we need to get to get deficits down. I
will vote no. I just want everybody to understand, I
(09:19):
will not vote for a tax cut bill unless we
have the spending cuts necessary to drive deficits down.
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You know you had mentioned sort of some of the
resistance within the party. I mean, we're we're kind of
seeing some of that in the Senate with you know,
as we approach confirmations for some of these nominees with
(10:42):
you know, unfortunately, even people like Senator Joni Ernst, who
represents an incredibly red state that went for Donald Trump.
If I remember or I think by like fifty six percent,
like I actually I have more deference for someone like
Senator Susan Collins because you know, she represents a blue
state and so you know, buy being like fifty percent
with the party she's actually is representing the state that
(11:05):
she serves, Whereas like I have no tolerance for people
in red states or red districts that don't don't execute
on the will of their people. And you know, you
look at Iowa like they want they wanted Trump to win,
and they want Tom just round himself with the people
he wants, So like, I just have no tolerance for that,
particularly when the accusations are bunk, like against Pete Hegseth,
(11:26):
if he had did the things that he's been accused of,
the police would.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Have pressed charges.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
So it's like I just you know, we're kind of
already seeing that.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
A little bit, getting a little bit of a glimpse
of it.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Well, you know, I couldn't agree more. You know, I
got in a little bit of trouble because I went
down to the floor and I directly took on and
criticized Senator Arnt. And look, I mean, I don't have
any animus towards her, you know, as an individual basis.
But you know, look, she's been an advocate for drafting
my daughter. She can pound sands. You're not drafting my daughter.
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She's been an advocate for you know, I think she
had a bad vote on gay marriage. She's had bad
votes on a bunch of nominees over there, you know.
And it's just kind of the same old, same old,
and I'm tired of it. And to your point about
red states, how many red state losers can you send
to Congress and the Senate? Like it happens all the time,
Like go look, it's embarrassing. I'm not going to go
(12:22):
name check, but just take a look at the map
America and go go red state by red state and
tell me how good you think they're doing. It's embarrassing.
And the Senate's particularly bad, but the House is bad too,
and we need to do a much better job in primaries,
and we need to send people to reflect our values
to Washington if we want to get changed right now,
we're going to have to rely on the president in
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a razor thin majority, bucking up Congress to do the
right thing. The good news is a lot of Americans
agree and they expect us to deliver, and a lot
of people in Congress are recognizing the need to deliver.
But we're going to have to do it, and we're
going to have to force through it. And I think
we can do it, but we're gonna have to organize
ourselves in the House of Representatives to have leaders who
(13:05):
will sit around the table to make this happen. And
we got we got some more work to do to
make that work.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
It was interesting earlier when you had mentioned the border wall.
I was kind of thinking to myself that it's kind
of hilarious that that ever became controversial, because you would
think it's just like a common sense solution, right, like
fence's work, borders work, you know, like it just makes sense.
And yet it was, you know, so heavily criticized and
you know, reported as this like terrible thing. You know,
(13:34):
like it's just like looking back, it's just sort of fun.
It was just kind of giggling in myself about how
crazy that is.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Yeah, I lived through that. I was a Senate Judiciary
lawyer when we were working on border security and immigration
bills back during the Bush administration two thousand and six,
two thousand and seven, again when I was out of
recruitsey achieve of staff, when the whole Gang of Eight
thing happened twenty thirteen, and so I lived through all
of the mockery by a lot of Republicans are still
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in office who used phrases like, oh, a fence chip
that is a nineteenth century solution for a twentieth century
problem or twenty first century problem, depending on where we were,
And you know, you just look at them and go, oh, really,
so you're going to go take the fence down around
your house or oh, you're going to go to the
White House and say, well, just take the fence down.
Fences don't work, right, you're a Texan, mister president then
(14:24):
President Bush, you go around your ranch in Crawford, you
just take the fence down. You don't need a fence.
Like it's absurd, Like it's facially absurd. But it took
President Trump running on it so that now all Republicans
are like, oh, okay, yeah, I guess I'm for the
wall because I got to be for the wall now.
To be clear, a wall is absolutely irrelevant if an
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administration can abuse the law like Biden did to use
Parolan asylum to just dump people into the country. So
you can build one hundred foot wall one hundred foot
wide from the Gulf of Mexico to Pacific Ocean, but
if you allow your federal government to violate the law
of dump people in the U the States, the wall
is worthless. That's why we need permanent law change. And
(15:05):
I'm not going to accept a lot of other bills
until I see permanent law change on the border.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Do we know because I know with well, first of
we also need mass deportations, and I know that's met
with Oh it's not practical, but I think that's just
you need to have the will to get it done.
Do we have a good assessment of how much legal
immigration costs the country?
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Oh? Man, I mean that is a loaded question. Yeah,
the recent kind of like analysis in front of me,
I'll answer it any more like willout giving you a
number because someone haven't front of me. I mean, what
I'll tell you is number one on the removal and
repatriation is how I'm referred to it because I think
it's important because removal is a normal thing under law.
We have one point three million currently under orders for
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removal in our country right now that this administration and
ICE refuse to go find and remove. So we should
do that to be removed. It's a normal course of
our law. You're here legally, we remove you. We need
to do that and send them to their own countries.
There's nothing wrong with that. But on the cost. You know,
for years the Chamber of Commerce and all the apologists
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have said, oh they all more. They pay for themselves,
you know, because of employment. Look, hold on a second.
Milton Friedman was correct when he said in the nineteen
seventies he's all four open borders kind of libertarian worldview.
If you don't have a social welfare state, well, guess what.
We have the biggest social welfare state in the world.
It's frankly incomprehensibly big. And people come here and they
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have birthright babies, and then they come here and they
get tax credits, earned income tax credits, child tax credits.
Did you know all of these parolees under the law
in five years after they're here, they can get snap benefits,
they can get food stamps, they can get you look
by the way under in talent and go to the hospital.
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Under plyler Vedo a terrible Supreme Court decision, they can
go to school. And the local schools have to pay,
and all the local law enforcement have to pay and
deal with it. We're going to have to pay to
set up facilities to process these parole requests and asylum
requests with their notices to appear in court. Meanwhile, they're
going to get benefits and perpetuity and they're gonna have
a child after child after child. That then they're going
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to claim birthright, citizenship anchor babies and that they can
be removed. That is all garbage, and it all has
to change.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
You know, when you look at the thirty six trillion
dollar debt, I think a lot of Americans go, Okay,
you know, obviously that doesn't sound good. That can be good,
but it's hard to like conceptualize how that's bad for them.
So I guess what would you say to the American
people of why that thirty six trillion dollar debt is
bad for the country?
Speaker 2 (17:45):
And bad for them as well.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
So here's the way I try to describe it. At
thirty six trillion dollars in debt and rapidly climbing interest
rates are up, our debts getting refinanced at hire and
hire interest rates, and we're bleeding out about, you know,
frankly over two trillion dollars a year, and probably more
so if you think about all of that, people, well,
(18:10):
I don't know what that means. Well, i'll tell you
what it means that we are now spending over a
trillion dollars in interest every year. Say well, I don't
know what that means. Well, it's more than our entire
national defense budget by a decent amount. That starts to
wake people up. They go, okay, well that sounds bad, right,
that sounds like that's bad. But then I try to
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put it in terms of it. And my friend Thomas
Massey did a great job of this in a rules
committee hearing where I was talking about and he took
my ice tea I had there, and he pulled every
put it in a glass and they poured water into
the ice tea and you just watch that dark tea
dilute into you know, kind of dirty looking water. That's
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what we're doing to the US dollar. That's what we're
doing to the financial health of our country because the
FED is just printing money. I had a reporter a
minute ago. They came up to me and said, what,
mister Roy, what are you going to do on the
CR next week? That's the Continual Resolution to fund government?
I said, I am inclined to support a continual resolution
until March spending at current levels, even though it's not
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my favorite thing, in order to get to the Trump administration,
so we can basically get the adults in the room
at omb to work with the Congress to hopefully deliver
on reduce spending. But it's going to have attached to
it a disaster supplemental for the horrors that occurred down
in the southeast of about one hundred billion dollars one
hundred billion dollars unpaid for. I said, I can't do that.
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I'll goo no. And he was like, well, but you
mean you can't. You think you got to pay for
it even though it's a disaster. I said, what are
you talking about? Like when something happens at your house
and something bad happens, you don't just go to the
printing press and print money to deal with the problem,
because you can't the federal government is in the business
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of the printing money. We are destroying our country, but worse,
we're destroying common sense. Everybody assumes that the veveeral government's
going to bail them out of every flipping mess they create,
or that they have to deal with, or some horror
that they deal with. I'm a cancer survivor. Cancer's horrible,
But I have to sit in my office where I'm
sitting right now when people come in and say, mister Roy,
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we need five hundred million dollars for this cancer research,
and I'll say, well, can we pay for it? I'm
to paid for it. Well, I'm sorry. Right at some
point you have to be able to be the adult
in the room and say it's Christmas time. There's no
more room in the end, and that's what we have
to do.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
So I have a weird theory that I just thought
of that I think sort of like this online shopping
culture has sort of seeped into Congress as well, where
everything is so easily, you know, you just like purchase this,
you get this, you go on Amazon, and so we
don't take money as seriously as maybe we did before
when it wasn't as easy to buy things and to
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have the things that we want.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
You know, that's not a bad there.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Certainly I thought of this.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
You know, there's a cultural problem, and you know it
could be related to that or just generally, but certainly
this notion. Right now, it's like withholding money in your paycheck, right,
It's like, well, you never feel the sting of writing
to check the government, but now we print money. And
so one of the questions I've asked in the Budget
Committee and here is like, why do we tax anybody
at all? Like if it doesn't matter. Right, Right now
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we take in about pushing five trillion, like four point
seven or eight trillion whatever it is a year, that's
our revenues, right, but we're spending six and a half now,
pushing seven like two trillion more than that, right, So
my question is like, well, I mean that's bad. Like
anybody gets that, Like if your income is one hundred
thousand dollars, but your outflows are you know something in
(21:48):
the zip code of one hundred and thirty thousand dollars,
everybody would understand that's bad. Right, You can't do that
at some point you do want to do your savings
or you you know you're in debt. So my my
here is to you and everybody listening to this, is
why do we have taxes at all? Just zero it
out and print the money. But then, but then the
economists I'll go, well you can't do that. I'm like,
(22:10):
well why not. We're printing it for the two trillion.
We're printing it for one hundred billion dollars because we
feel bad for people in North Carolina and Georgia. We
shouldn't do that. So what I said, and I said
to some other college by the way, I had some
Wench donors giving me crap because I said, I don't
want to give more money to Ukraine. We had another
one hundred billion going to Ukraine and and they were complaining,
(22:32):
ship you don't understand it. You got to do it.
This is you know Churchill. We got to do it,
save the world. Okay, let me assume you believe that
you that you're correct. We should pay for it. Oh well,
I mean, you know, but we just got to do it.
I tell you what you're you're a wealthy individual. Your
current tax rate is thirty seven percent. If I raise
your tax rate to the Clinton Air a tax rate
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of forty three percent for a year. I will pay
for that one hundred billion dollars for Ukraine crickets. I
haven't heard a complaint with that individual.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Again, We've got more with Congressman ship Roy. But first,
the Christmas in.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
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objectives of the incoming Trump administrations also to reform government,
(24:11):
particularly looking at areas like the FBI. I know that
political appointees, it's it's easy to you know, you can
fire them. The civil servants have statutory civil service protection.
I know that in on the towards the end of
his administration, he issued an executive order that reclassified categories
of federal employees, basically making them at will employees and
(24:33):
more easily fireable. But I guess how hard do you
think it'll be to fire people? And then like what
sort of things do you think they can do to
get rid of the dead weight or even worse, to
get rid of, you know, the deep state and people
actively resisting what this new administration wants to accomplish.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
So on this one, I'm going to be a little
careful about not getting in front of the administration and
in front of Roz, Stephen Miller, Susie in the White House.
All the people are going to make decision about how
they want to go about firing bureaucrats, but their gun.
And there are ways to do it, and as you
said in the order and schedule, apps and other things
that you can do to remove bureaucrats. But there are
(25:13):
barriers and we need I think, some legislative fixes on
that front. And we're going to have to work through that, right.
I mean, I introduced legislation I think I don't know
four years ago now I can't remember, and have introduced
in each Congress that basically makes all government employees at will.
Now I get a little blowback from some of my friends,
(25:34):
particularly the law enforcement community, and they're like, well, that'll
just be used by a bad administration, by a Biden
administration or whatever. We'll be used against them, you know, politically,
they'll be used as a weapon, they'll fire the good guys. Well,
there is some concern with that. I get that, but
I think we've got to figure out what the right
way to do it is. You know it can you
(25:55):
aspire at will? Anybody who's above a GS thirteen? You know,
can you fire? How to just think through what we
need to do. But we've got to free up the
unitary executive. The president has to be able to come
in and has to be able to run the federal
government as he or she was elected to do. So
we must do it. There's no choice. And you know
(26:17):
what it looks like. I think we'll have to kind
of work through with the administration, but we're going to
have to find a way to allow the president to
do that. All right.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
So we're ending on a positive note because we're heading
into twenty twenty five or heading to Christmas. We've got
it new administration. Things are much more positive than the
last time we've talk to you. What are you the
most optimistic about over the next four years.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Look from a personal level, it might be one thing
from his family and life and you.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Know anything, the world's yst birth, the birth.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Birth sav Or Jesus Christ and celebrating that. You know
what I'm most optimistic about is is, and this is
going to sound kind of nebulous, is that there's a
generation of kids now that I believe have looked at
crazy and has said I don't like that, And that
there is a hope to reclaim what made America great
(27:11):
and what will make America great again, and that is
to re establish the American ethos that you come here,
you work, and when I talk to him, I only
give you an example, a perfect example of somebody who
gives me hope. And there are the people's like Riley Gaines,
who's out there challenging all the DEI crap and all
the trans in sports, Chloe Cole who's challenging the mutilation
(27:34):
of young children. And she's wonderful, she testified in our hearings.
But there was a woman in Texas, Alexis nunger Ay,
and she's twenty seven years old and her twelve year
old daughter, Joscelyn, who she gave birth to when she
was I think fifteen. She chose life, but unfortunately Joscelyn
was taken from her, from us, from the world by
(27:56):
violent members of Venezuelan gangs in Houston released by Biden
under these ridiculous Parle programs. Alexis has been a rock star.
She's gone out in campaigning. She stared down the most
radical levesge. She wasn't that political. And I was talking
to her about her family who came here, and her
parents and her grandparents when they came here. Grandfather refused
to take any of the handouts or benefits or any
(28:18):
of that stuff, said I came here to achieved the American dream,
to learn and to earn my way. That is the
American wave. Ted Cruise's dad, who came here from Cuba
with one hundred bucks sewed into his boxer shorts, worked
at a diner in a building that's still right there
next to the University of Texas where he worked his
way through his school in Austin. That's the American dream.
My grandmother was a single mom in West Texas raising
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my dad, who had polio. After she lost my grandfather
to cancer. She didn't come to the government asking for help.
She had two jobs and then became the first woman
elected county clerk in a rural West Texas county in
nineteen fifty I think two or three. That's the American dream.
No more excuses, Let's stop the nonsense. I am so
excited about of re establishing the American dream for a
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new generation Generation X that came of age under Ronald Reagan.
We're the ones who are now aging into running this country.
Thank God for the most part. With all due respect,
President Trump's the exception from the boomer generation who wants
to save America. But we now have a new generation
coming in who can join him that will be staffed
around him to save this country from the failures of
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the previous generation. That is the first generation to make
our country worse off when they handed it down. We're
going to save it and the new generation coming in
are going to be with us to re establish the
American dream.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Well, I'm not going to argue with that. Very well,
said Congressman ship Roy. Enjoy having you on the show.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
So glad to be able to have a more optimistic
conversation than some of the ones passed with under the
Biden administration. So a lot to look forward to and
really appreciate your time, sir, and Merry Christmas.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Thanks Le's God bless and merry Christmas.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
That was Congressman ship Roy of Texas. Appreciate him for
joining the show. Appreciate you guys at home for listening
every Monday and Thursday, but you can listen throughout the week.
I would to thank John Cassio, my producer, for putting
the show together.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Until next time,
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