December 30, 2024 • 27 mins
In this episode, Lisa discusses America's health crisis with Caroline Carralero, founder and CEO of Daily Nori, a company specializing in gut health and precision probiotics. They explore the alarming health statistics in the U.S., the detrimental effects of processed foods and additives, and the interconnectedness of the food and pharmaceutical industries. Caroline emphasizes the importance of dietary changes, advocating for natural, whole foods to combat preventable health issues. The Truth with Lisa Boothe is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network - new episodes debut every Monday & Thursday.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We've all seen the reports about how despite spending the
most on healthcare, America is the sickest and we die
the youngest compared to other high income nations.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
So why is that? What is driving that?
Speaker 1 (00:11):
We've had some of these conversations on the show before,
but we have an opportunity over the next four years
to do what President Trump and Bobby Kennedy have promised
to do to make America healthy again. We've seen studies
like the one the New York posted recently looking into
her food compared to European nations and found that we
have more than ten thousand chemicals and additives that are
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permitted in our food, while the European Union allows just
over three hundred food additives.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
So that's a large part of it as well. We'll
talk to someone who has entered.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Into this space, the health space, who's very focused on
what we're eating, about how interconnected the body is. She
cares about it so much that she started a company
called Daily Norri, which focuses on gut health precision probiotics.
So we're going to talk to her about how she
entered that space, how interconnected the body is, you know,
how does gut health relate to good health, but also
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about the Make America Healthy movement and the steps that
this administration can take and how we got here to
being such an unhealthy nation. So stay tuned for Caroline Carolero.
She is the founder and CEO of Daily Norri.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Well, Caroline, it's great to have you on this show.
We have a mutual friend who.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
You know, I was talking about some episodes I wanted
to do and he was like, You've got to interview Caroline.
You know, she started an amazing company as perfect for this.
So I appreciate you making the time and I'm looking
forward to talking to you about making America healthy again.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Thanks Lisa for having me. I'm happy to be here
and really excited for this discussion.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
We're saying, you know, these all these reports that you know,
despite spending you know, the most on healthcare, that you know,
we're the sickest and die the youngest compared to you know,
other high income nations.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I guess why do you think that is?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
How do we get there?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Or we've always been there?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yeah, so just kind of set this age. The US
has the lowest life expectancy among high income countries, and
this is quite alarming. Because we also have the highest
rate of avoidable deaths, which we'll talk about kind of
how we got there. But avoidable deaths are these preventable
deaths that can be avoided through effective public health, right,
And this is I think what a lot of the
Make America Healthy Again movement is focused on and prevention
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interventions like lifestyle changes. So eighty five percent of the
deaths are tied to preventable conditions have a root cause
in food, right, So food and pharma, which we'll talk about,
and the leading cause of this avoidable death category as
heart disease, which is unfortunately now the cause of death
for about one in five Americans. So this is a
huge issue. I think that the you know, when we
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look at the root causes, and that's really what our
company is focused on, is you really have to take
a look at the food industry and this is what
you know, Bobby Kennedy is passionate about, among many other things,
but it's really it really is food and pharma. So
when we look at how we got here, so many
of these preventable diseases have a root cause in the
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food system. When you look at kind of post World
War two, there's this rise of highly processed and packaged foods. Right,
So we've gotten further and further away from just eating
real food, which has had these immense downstream implications. To
say it plainly, there's a profound relationship between the food
companies and the pharma companies. And so when you look
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at this and this is the unfortunate reality, it is
a good business model for the healthcare industry to unfortunately
have Americans that are very sick. And so that's what
you were saying, is that there's actually, you know, the
healthcare industries, the largest and the fastest growing industry, keeps
growing and growing. Meanwhile Americans are getting sicker and sicker.
So I think one of the main, one of the
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main root causes is our food system. And then these
band aid fixes, right, which are you know, prescribing up
to twenty plus prescriptions over an American's lifetime.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
And to the point of that about the food, you know,
reading this New York Post, they kind of did their
own like investigation into our food and found compared our
food to European nations and found that we have more
than ten thousand chemicals and additives are permitted in the
US food, while the European Union just allows or allows
just over three hundred food additives, you know, I mean,
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obviously they're more heavily regulated than us in that arena.
That's sort of why or why wouldn't American you know,
company food companies want to make their food healthier.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Is it because it's more expensive? You know? I guess
sort of what are.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Sort of the the barriers to making America's food healthier?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Well, I mean it's you know, it's really when you
expose it and get to the root of it, you
just have to keep asking this question why. And one
of the reasons is that food is addictive. So when
the publican narrative turned right against tobacco, and the narrative was, hey,
you know smoking is bad, which it is. It causes cancer,
it kills you, it is bad, then those same companies
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financially came together and started to make the food more addictive. Uh.
And this is not anything that you know, you don't
have to search, search long and hard to find this.
And so for these companies, for these food companies, it's
a good business model to keep Americans addicted to highly
processed foods. Right to have foods that are filled with sugar, right,
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which is essentially if you look at soda and the
soda industry, it is like drinking diabetes. It's so so
harmful for our bodies. And it's an incredibly good business
model because then Americans stay sick and then they go
to the physician, and the physician prescribes them, uh you know,
whether it be an antibiotic if they're sick, or additional drugs,
and it's this it's this awful, awful hamster wheel that
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we're on. So uh you know, unfortunately, this is something
that you know, to unwind. It is complicated, and there
are a few things that are pretty clear that we
can do early on, like what you were just saying,
kind of to even out the US standards to more
more closely mimic the European standards with things like preservatives
and dyes in foods chemicals that we're literally ingesting. That's
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an easier kind of thing, and that's already in the
news cycle this week, right. I mean that there's progress
being made on that, But when you really get to
some of the bigger issues, it would impact the economy
in a very significant way. So there's a lot of
nuance and layers to this, but we can't continue the
way that we have been acting. And I think it's
very clear now it's becoming clear to this incoming administration
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that this is the number one expense of the American people.
Right we are spending more on healthcare than anything else,
which is incredibly alarming. When our nation is sick, our
young men and women aren't fit to fight in the military.
This is impacting the country in more ways than just Hey,
it's not great to be eating fast food, right, And
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I think that's what people are really waking up to.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Well, there's no like healthy food lobby.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Exactly right, That's exactly right.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
We've got more with Caroline, but we've got to take
a quick break. Bobby Kennedy, is he the reason why
we're having these conversations. There's a renewed focus. I mean,
you had mentioned the ever alluded to it. The FDA
is looking at potentially banning certain food dies in the
coming weeks. There's definitely this more heightened focus on what
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we're eating.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Are we poisoning ourselves? What drove that?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
It's such a good question, and I think the only
way to really answer that is just to say it's
a perfect storm right, It's been a lot of people
that you can't discredit. I got into this industry con
consumer products and kind of the health and wellness industry,
so to speak, really young, when I was eighteen, about
twelve years ago, and there were these you know, I
would call them like og health bloggers, right that we're
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talking about these things ten plus years ago, and now
their messages are just really hitting the mainstream news. So
this has been the work of a lot of people
for a decade, couple of decades plus. So this hasn't
come out of nowhere. That's important to reckick. I think
that Bobby Kennedy and his endorsement of Trump and the
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joining together of those two campaigns cannot be underestimated because
you had all of a sudden, you know, the Trump campaign,
which before hadn't spoken really a lot about this at all,
become focused on it and aware of it. And it's
it's an incredibly powerful thing that happened when Bobby Kennedy
endorsed Trump, not just because right and a Kennedy endorsing
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a Republican, but this movement picked up more momentum, and
then it is also you can't discredit the other factor.
I think that goes into this of kind of why
now COVID and the amount of awareness that came from
all the independent media and everything that you know, the
American consumers have searched for and sought after for themselves
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independently since twenty twenty and twenty twenty one and onward. Right,
there's been this increase in functional medicine and holistic medicine.
There's been kind of a fragment, fragmentation of the healthcare system,
and so there's a lot that's going on, Lisa, I
think it's many of these things, but it is sort
of a perfect storm and hopefully, gosh, we can only
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pray that the timing is such that real change will
be made and then real solutions and options will be
opened up to Americans because we're dying younger than we have.
We have this huge infertility crisis on our hands. I mean,
there's just so many things that don't look promising for
the future if we don't, you know, continue to talk
about them, but then also create some really tangible solutions
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to solve them.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
It a really interesting conversation with doctor Martin McCarey, who's
a friend of mine, and you know, he had pointed
out that when you're in medical school, like you cover
an old food pyramid and that's like, yes, like there's
like barely no time focused on healthy eating and like
the way all that works, and you know, and so
I thought that was a really interesting point that he raised.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Well, yeah, and I mean, the food pyramid is such
a great thing that just totally needs to be overhauled.
But back to the point that I was making earlier,
there's this there's this you know term avoidable deaths, right,
these preventable desks, and and most of these desks can
be prevented by interventions and lifestyle changes. And that's what's
so alarming from a you know, from a medical school perspective, right,
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is that they're learning, which is really important. There's absolutely
a time and a place for medicine. Multiple of you know,
my siblings and family members are doctors. There's a time
and a place when you need a pediatrist to treat
your foot, or an e NT to treat you know,
a specific problem in your your nose or whatever it
might be. But the point is that for most Americans,
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the average quote unquote primary care should be something like
an integrative medicine that's treating the body as a whole
and looking at maintenance and prevention. Right. So that's that's
the biggest I think shift that needs to be made.
It's not to hell with all the medicine, No, not
at all. I Mean there's prolific doctors that save lives
every single day, and that is really important, but that
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shouldn't be just our standard primary care, right, And that's
I think that's the big difference.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Well, yeah, and then you know a lot of times
you get on medication and then you know the medication
has side effects, and then that could lead to others,
you know, and then you're just playing whack a mole
at this point, I guess you had mentioned you'd got into.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
The space at eighteen. What led you to that?
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Yeah, So my backgrounds in the food and beverage industry.
I started my career quite young, eighteen and developing consumer
products ever since. I kind of landed in this unintentionally.
I was in my second week of college down at
the University of San Diego. I met a group of
entrepreneurs who were starting an organic juice company. I thought
of it sort of as a fun internship, got involved,
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started working directly with the CEO of that company, and
just loved it. I loved this combination of you know, manufacturing,
product development, and then I you know, learned a lot
about the advertising, the marketing, the sales of these products.
And then you also and doing so servicing customers like
Walmart and and all of these different retailers across the country.
You learn a lot about the American consumer. And what
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stood out to me was that there wasn't this, you know,
the narrative that you know, American consumers are fat and lazy.
No they're not. There was actually this demand of Americans
to be healthier, right, And so how do we help
these How do we help these consumers that are you know,
spending more than ever on their healthcare, but yet are
so unhealthy. How do we help them through tangible solutions?
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And I found these consumer products to be a wonderful
way to do so. So this just led me, you know,
through through the last decade plus, led me to search
for more and more of the root causes and solutions.
I think that talking about these issues is so important. Obviously,
the awareness in the media has done a fantastic job.
I think covering some of these issues very recently historically
we haven't talked about them as much. But I'm very
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solution oriented as just the way that I'm created and
the way that I think I really want to, you know,
come to the table with the solution. And so when
I learned more and more about you know what a
Americans we're really struggling with, what you end up finding
is that the gut microbiome, which is what my company
Daily and Oria has focused on. The gut microbiome is
the foundation of human health. This collection of bacteria that
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lives in and on your body quite literally controls how
you're feeling from head to toe. And that to me
was so interesting and I just thought, you know what,
this is such a good use of energy and resource
to develop solutions for the microbiome. So that's how I
could have got started, and ever since then have been
kind of head down and quite busy. But it is
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I think really important that as we dig, you know,
dig and find all these problems, that we also really
are solution oriented with our approach.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
And so Daily Nori it's a precision probiotics. I guess
dig in a little bit more. You talked about it
a little bit, but dig into more about how gut
health is tied to good health.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Yeah, yeah, great question. So the gut microbiome is either
your front or your foe, right, I mean, that's one
really easy way to look at it. Diverse of the
bacteria in your body, right, so you can't see it
with the human eye, which makes it hard. But the
diversity of bacteria in your body is so important that
if you lose the diversity in your body, which we
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are through our diets, like I was mentioning earlier, highly
processed foods just kind of wreck the diversity of good
bacteria in your body. But then also environmental factors, some
of which we have control of and some of which
we don't, right, And all of these things, adding into
lack of exercise, lack of time and nature, these are
all really taking a toll on the diversity of our microbiomes.
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And so when we're losing the diversity, we're losing quite
literally function, right, And so that's a very interesting thing
to think about because then gets passed down to the
next generation. One of the main things that's impact of
this has been the increase of use of antibiotics in
our foods, right, so specifically our meat. And then how
that's impacting the body. And that's really novel to this generation, right,
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that just started happening with the boomer generation now down
to them all millennials, and so hopefully we'll reverse a
lot of that. But these these things that we're eating
and the environment that we're living in is just wrecking havoc,
wreaking havoc on our on our microbiomes. And so, you know,
the microbiome is important for many different reasons traditionally, and
I think as many consumers understand it. It controls your digestion, right,
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your digestion and your digestive system live in your microbiome.
But then also, and this is something that you know
was really brought to the surface during twenty twenty and
twenty twenty one, your immune system. So seventy to eighty
percent of your immune cells live in your microbiome, so effectively,
without your gut microbiome, you do not have an immune system.
And what's interesting about that is that the immune system
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is reliant on the microbiome for its functionality and its intelligence.
So this you know, diversity of the microbiome. This is
why we sell probiotics that help consumers increase the diversity
of their microbiome. A diverse microbiome actually does a better
job of instruct the immune system. So when you see
something that's novel to a human being, like a COVID virus, right,
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that we saw which is really interesting now in all
the publications post COVID that the consumers and Americans that
had a stronger gut health and diversity of a gut
microbiome going into COVID actually had milder cases of COVID
and recovered quicker. So we know that the gut microbiome
plays such an important role in digestion, such an important
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role in the immune system. And then also things like
women's health, your brain health, serotonin, mood, etc. So it's
quite literally It's why I say good health starts with
gut health, right, but it is foundational for the human body,
metabolic health, weight health, et cetera. So I mean, it's
quite literally connected to every single system in your body.
It's profound the impact that just focusing on your gut
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health would have to your entire entire trajectory of your life.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Quick break more on making America healthy again. No, it's
wild how interconnected the body is. I mean, I even
I for my acl in high school and I tweaked
it a couple of years ago and I went to
physical therapy and he was like, your ankles are too
tight and like we need to work on your outer glutes.
And I was like what, like you know what I mean?
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I was like, I was like, wait, what, I'm here
for my knee, you know.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Well, And it's that's that's the point of the functionality
of the human body, right, and how we do have
to really treat it holistically. I mean, it's every little
system is interconnected. It's it's very profound.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
You know.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I've been reading a lot too, so I've been, you know,
not as into it as you are, obviously and starting
a company and doing really well with it. But I've
been trying to get more into health and you know,
I've not been drinking and you know, just trying to
like be and I'm going into forty.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
I just want to be healthy and like, you know,
feel my best. And you know a lot of that
ties to.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Like inflammation too in the body, you know, causes a
lot of issues.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
So I guess you know, how does.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Daily nori and how does uh you know, gut health
impact that.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Yeah, So I mean a few things for inflammation, but
the main thing that we look at is actually again
back to the food, right, that's the best thing for inflammation.
You know, a couple of the things that I would
say that are just incredibly important, easy tips for everyone
that will help with inflammation but really help with with
gut health. Also, avoid highly processed foods. That's the first thing.
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It's very hard, Like I said earlier, these foods are
designed to be addictive, They're designed to be you know,
quote unquote drugs, so it is very hard for a
lot of people to avoid them. But do everything and
anything you can to avoid highly processed foods. That's the
first thing. These are incredibly inflammatory, also incredibly damaging to
your microbiome, your metabolic health, your brain health, and more.
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And then the second thing is to get outside and
move more so to the point of inflammation. I mean,
just exposure to natural environments moving primarily walking, Like, don't
overcomplicate it, you don't even need to do these crazy
hard workouts, but just getting outside and walking is one
of the best things you can do for inflammation, heart health, longevity,
et cetera. And it's you know, also again one of
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the easiest and absolute best things you can do to
support your digestive health, especially during the holidays when you're
eating a lot, kind of sitting around a lot, so
getting up and walking. And then the third thing that
we say is just add in a high quality probiotic
and providic supplement to your daily routine and that will
help with inflammation. It'll help with also just making sure
that your digestion is fluid and that you can really
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start to start to feel a difference in that you
know what systems are working and what aren't. You know,
the interesting thing about the digestive system is that it
gives you incredible biofeedback right very quickly. And if your
digestion is off, you know it, you feel it, your
stomach urtz, you're bloated, et cetera. So I mean those
three things I would say as far as inflammation is concerned, primarily,
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I just keep going back to this. It's the if
there's one takeaway, I mean, this is the biggest thing
for gut health and pro oral health. It's just to
avoid highly processed foods and to focus on diet. There
is no supplement that can supplement for that, right, and
I own a supplement company. I think it's really important
to recognize that that it is supplementative to your diet
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and exercise and lifestyle. It's not to replace that. So
those are the three things I would say when it
comes to inflammation, and you know, and then there's obviously
specific things for women and specific things for men, but
just for everyone, those are the three most tangible things
you could do going into this new year.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Yeah, because it's like I follow a bunch of like
these health people and they're always talking about how like
inflammation can you know, like how that's like one of
the big important things to being healthy and you know,
to losing weight and like all that.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
I've also noticed, you know too, Like, so I've been
trying to like cut down on alcohol and because it's
like as you get older, it's like you have two
glasses of wine and you feel like crap the next
day and it just destroyed, right, and so but so
I've been trying to not do it, and like it
is wild just the difference of like energy levels and
you know, just feeling more clear minded and you're ready
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to tackle the day and you know, and so you
know that just like especially as we talk about you know,
this will air the week of New York New Year's
Eve or the newer and you know, just something to
think about as everyone goes out for a new view.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
It's so true, though, I mean it's and it's hard
socially understand that. And I understand that's you know, it's
it is really who you surround yourself with in so
many of these these environments. It's very hard. However, you know,
the two things that really, you know, are are the
devils are really alcohol and sugar, right, And so again
that's why you talk about you you talk about processed foods,
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you're really talking about sugars as well. But yeah, avoiding
alcohol and specifically for women. This is something I was
just talking to one of our advisors about yesterday. So
when you look at issues for women, right, and hormone health,
which is something we've been focusing on a lot, avoiding sugar, alcohol,
processed foods for younger women, right, so women of reproductive
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age that might be struggling with something like PCOS, which
is on the rise in fertility. These things are so
important to remove from your diet. I mean it's like
you can't over you know, overstress. The point here that
for women and even during menopause. Obviously it's the easiest
option to just say I'm going to just relax with
a glass of wine, but the reality is that your
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hormone health and the balance and regulation of hormones is
so important to not.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Do that, and cortisol levels are key to to kindactly
staying healthy, especially as a woman, and keeping weight off.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Exactly that the metabolic health and keeping weight off, that's
exactly rightly, So that's and that's you know, a desire
of a lot of women, right especially when your metabolism
starts to slow down naturally as it does.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Why do you think before we go, you know, how
much of the food do you think that we're eating
impacts sort of? You know, we are seeing issues with
fertility rates in the country, both for men and women.
How much of that do you think it's tied to
what we're eating as a country.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
I think a lot of it. I think that it's
really hard to say, right and there's obviously a lot
of different statistics on this, but one thing that we
know right now is speaking you know, directly to fertility
now PCOS polycystic ovariance and now is impacting about ten
percent of women of reproductive age, which is a lot.
And PCOS is the leading cause of infertility and at
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its root cause, PCOS is a metabolic issue. So in
the US right one of the leading solutions, so to speak,
quote unquote for PCOS is to put women on a
hormonal birth control, which actually just makes the problem a
lot worse, Whereas in the UK there is a study
of treating PCOS with a ketogenic diet. And so I know,
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you know, our medical advisors, my personal doctor, those that
I surround myself with, I guess I would say, are
looking at how do we treat infertility now? Actually, and
the first thing they're doing with all of their patients
is changing their diet, adding in supplements that are needed.
And this sounds so it's so simple, but it's true.
They're they're telling them to drink more water, right, to
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avoid alcohol. So all these things I think play a
huge role. And I would just encourage any anyone. And
I've got a lot of friends that are unfortunately struggling
with this right now, to focus first on and forced
on their diet and the foods that they're consuming. So
hard to say exactly what percentage, but we do know Lisa,
we do know more about PCs now, and we do
know that, you know, being a leading cause of infertility,
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one way to treat PCs is diet. So I think
that it's making a big impact and it's something that
we're going to know more and more about, unfortunately, because
these rates are getting worse, not better.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah, the best shape I've ever been in was during COVID,
and I was doing keto and like working out every
day because I basically was like this is going to
go one of two ways. Am either going to get
really fat ye or I can do like prison shape.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
You know. We're like, yeah, we're remember when people go
to prison.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
And they get in like really good shape because you
literally have nothing else to do with your life. So
I was like a prison diet person shape, you know,
like I can't go.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
And do things. I'm just going to get in shape.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
No, And it's a lot of people did take that approach.
And and then I mean I was, you know, in
between Georgia at that point and then spent a lot
of time on the West Coast as well. But then
the other thing that a lot of people do, I
think was so smart was just get outside right when
I was taking walks like crazy, and so yeah, I mean,
but we should we should always be treating our bodies
like that. And I think that, you know, hopefully not,
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but you never know when the next virus is going
to come around. Like we should always be prepared. And
that's that's the biggest thing that I've learned about the
gut micro biome, and it's it's you know, impact on
the immune system is that you want to be prepared, right.
You don't want to be caught with tons of inflammation
and your body unable to respond when something like COVID
comes along. You want to be the person that you know, yep,
(25:52):
I got COVID, but you know it was a mild
case and I was inside for a few days and
then I was fine. Right, That's that's how the human
body should react these things. So we've got a long
way to go, but like, you know, like we were saying,
I think there's there's more reasons reasons to be encouraged
than ever with the Make America Healthy Again movement and
the new administration coming in the ideas that people have
(26:14):
and and really just the unwavering commitment to make sure
that there's solutions out there. So I feel very inspired
and very encouraged. We'll see, right, we'll see what happens.
And there's a lot of work to be done. This
is going to be a lifelong project, but it is
looking better than it has before, so that's encouraging.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
And then a big fight too, because there's some you know,
big Pharma is a big lobby and probably the biggest,
and then also or one of the biggest maybe defense,
but uh and then also you know big food big
you know, so there's a lot the Trump administration will
be up against a lot with those fights. Where where
can people find more information about Daily Nor? Where can
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they get at.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Yep, so Daily Nor. The best place to find us
is just online Www dot Daily Nor. That's inn o.
You are dot com on Amazon and also nationally at retailers.
So we're nationally at Walmart, Albertson, Safeway, HGB, Meyer and
more so we're in a few thousand stores nationwide. But
online is where most people find us.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
That's a big deal. That's awesome. Congratulations on the success
of your company.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
That's amazing.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Thank you, Lisa, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Caroline Carolero, I appreciate your time, appreciate you joining the
show and so super helpful and interesting.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
So thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
You're welcome, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
That was Caroline Carolero. Appreciate her for taking the time
to join the show. Appreciate you guys at home for
listening every Monday and Thursday, but you can listen throughout
the week. Also want to thank John Cassio, my producer,
for putting the show together.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Until next time.
We've all seen the reports about how despite spending the
most on healthcare, America is the sickest and we die
the youngest compared to other high income nations.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
So why is that? What is driving that?
Speaker 1 (00:11):
We've had some of these conversations on the show before,
but we have an opportunity over the next four years
to do what President Trump and Bobby Kennedy have promised
to do to make America healthy again. We've seen studies
like the one the New York posted recently looking into
her food compared to European nations and found that we
have more than ten thousand chemicals and additives that are
(00:32):
permitted in our food, while the European Union allows just
over three hundred food additives.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
So that's a large part of it as well. We'll
talk to someone who has entered.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Into this space, the health space, who's very focused on
what we're eating, about how interconnected the body is. She
cares about it so much that she started a company
called Daily Norri, which focuses on gut health precision probiotics.
So we're going to talk to her about how she
entered that space, how interconnected the body is, you know,
how does gut health relate to good health, but also
(01:05):
about the Make America Healthy movement and the steps that
this administration can take and how we got here to
being such an unhealthy nation. So stay tuned for Caroline Carolero.
She is the founder and CEO of Daily Norri.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Well, Caroline, it's great to have you on this show.
We have a mutual friend who.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
You know, I was talking about some episodes I wanted
to do and he was like, You've got to interview Caroline.
You know, she started an amazing company as perfect for this.
So I appreciate you making the time and I'm looking
forward to talking to you about making America healthy again.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Thanks Lisa for having me. I'm happy to be here
and really excited for this discussion.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
We're saying, you know, these all these reports that you know,
despite spending you know, the most on healthcare, that you know,
we're the sickest and die the youngest compared to you know,
other high income nations.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I guess why do you think that is?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
How do we get there?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Or we've always been there?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yeah, so just kind of set this age. The US
has the lowest life expectancy among high income countries, and
this is quite alarming. Because we also have the highest
rate of avoidable deaths, which we'll talk about kind of
how we got there. But avoidable deaths are these preventable
deaths that can be avoided through effective public health, right,
And this is I think what a lot of the
Make America Healthy Again movement is focused on and prevention
(02:21):
interventions like lifestyle changes. So eighty five percent of the
deaths are tied to preventable conditions have a root cause
in food, right, So food and pharma, which we'll talk about,
and the leading cause of this avoidable death category as
heart disease, which is unfortunately now the cause of death
for about one in five Americans. So this is a
huge issue. I think that the you know, when we
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look at the root causes, and that's really what our
company is focused on, is you really have to take
a look at the food industry and this is what
you know, Bobby Kennedy is passionate about, among many other things,
but it's really it really is food and pharma. So
when we look at how we got here, so many
of these preventable diseases have a root cause in the
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food system. When you look at kind of post World
War two, there's this rise of highly processed and packaged foods. Right,
So we've gotten further and further away from just eating
real food, which has had these immense downstream implications. To
say it plainly, there's a profound relationship between the food
companies and the pharma companies. And so when you look
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at this and this is the unfortunate reality, it is
a good business model for the healthcare industry to unfortunately
have Americans that are very sick. And so that's what
you were saying, is that there's actually, you know, the
healthcare industries, the largest and the fastest growing industry, keeps
growing and growing. Meanwhile Americans are getting sicker and sicker.
So I think one of the main, one of the
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main root causes is our food system. And then these
band aid fixes, right, which are you know, prescribing up
to twenty plus prescriptions over an American's lifetime.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
And to the point of that about the food, you know,
reading this New York Post, they kind of did their
own like investigation into our food and found compared our
food to European nations and found that we have more
than ten thousand chemicals and additives are permitted in the
US food, while the European Union just allows or allows
just over three hundred food additives, you know, I mean,
(04:18):
obviously they're more heavily regulated than us in that arena.
That's sort of why or why wouldn't American you know,
company food companies want to make their food healthier.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Is it because it's more expensive? You know? I guess
sort of what are.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Sort of the the barriers to making America's food healthier?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Well, I mean it's you know, it's really when you
expose it and get to the root of it, you
just have to keep asking this question why. And one
of the reasons is that food is addictive. So when
the publican narrative turned right against tobacco, and the narrative was, hey,
you know smoking is bad, which it is. It causes cancer,
it kills you, it is bad, then those same companies
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financially came together and started to make the food more addictive. Uh.
And this is not anything that you know, you don't
have to search, search long and hard to find this.
And so for these companies, for these food companies, it's
a good business model to keep Americans addicted to highly
processed foods. Right to have foods that are filled with sugar, right,
(05:22):
which is essentially if you look at soda and the
soda industry, it is like drinking diabetes. It's so so
harmful for our bodies. And it's an incredibly good business
model because then Americans stay sick and then they go
to the physician, and the physician prescribes them, uh you know,
whether it be an antibiotic if they're sick, or additional drugs,
and it's this it's this awful, awful hamster wheel that
(05:45):
we're on. So uh you know, unfortunately, this is something
that you know, to unwind. It is complicated, and there
are a few things that are pretty clear that we
can do early on, like what you were just saying,
kind of to even out the US standards to more
more closely mimic the European standards with things like preservatives
and dyes in foods chemicals that we're literally ingesting. That's
(06:08):
an easier kind of thing, and that's already in the
news cycle this week, right. I mean that there's progress
being made on that, But when you really get to
some of the bigger issues, it would impact the economy
in a very significant way. So there's a lot of
nuance and layers to this, but we can't continue the
way that we have been acting. And I think it's
very clear now it's becoming clear to this incoming administration
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that this is the number one expense of the American people.
Right we are spending more on healthcare than anything else,
which is incredibly alarming. When our nation is sick, our
young men and women aren't fit to fight in the military.
This is impacting the country in more ways than just Hey,
it's not great to be eating fast food, right, And
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I think that's what people are really waking up to.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Well, there's no like healthy food lobby.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Exactly right, That's exactly right.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
We've got more with Caroline, but we've got to take
a quick break. Bobby Kennedy, is he the reason why
we're having these conversations. There's a renewed focus. I mean,
you had mentioned the ever alluded to it. The FDA
is looking at potentially banning certain food dies in the
coming weeks. There's definitely this more heightened focus on what
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we're eating.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Are we poisoning ourselves? What drove that?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
It's such a good question, and I think the only
way to really answer that is just to say it's
a perfect storm right, It's been a lot of people
that you can't discredit. I got into this industry con
consumer products and kind of the health and wellness industry,
so to speak, really young, when I was eighteen, about
twelve years ago, and there were these you know, I
would call them like og health bloggers, right that we're
(07:45):
talking about these things ten plus years ago, and now
their messages are just really hitting the mainstream news. So
this has been the work of a lot of people
for a decade, couple of decades plus. So this hasn't
come out of nowhere. That's important to reckick. I think
that Bobby Kennedy and his endorsement of Trump and the
(08:06):
joining together of those two campaigns cannot be underestimated because
you had all of a sudden, you know, the Trump campaign,
which before hadn't spoken really a lot about this at all,
become focused on it and aware of it. And it's
it's an incredibly powerful thing that happened when Bobby Kennedy
endorsed Trump, not just because right and a Kennedy endorsing
(08:28):
a Republican, but this movement picked up more momentum, and
then it is also you can't discredit the other factor.
I think that goes into this of kind of why
now COVID and the amount of awareness that came from
all the independent media and everything that you know, the
American consumers have searched for and sought after for themselves
(08:52):
independently since twenty twenty and twenty twenty one and onward. Right,
there's been this increase in functional medicine and holistic medicine.
There's been kind of a fragment, fragmentation of the healthcare system,
and so there's a lot that's going on, Lisa, I
think it's many of these things, but it is sort
of a perfect storm and hopefully, gosh, we can only
(09:12):
pray that the timing is such that real change will
be made and then real solutions and options will be
opened up to Americans because we're dying younger than we have.
We have this huge infertility crisis on our hands. I mean,
there's just so many things that don't look promising for
the future if we don't, you know, continue to talk
about them, but then also create some really tangible solutions
(09:34):
to solve them.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
It a really interesting conversation with doctor Martin McCarey, who's
a friend of mine, and you know, he had pointed
out that when you're in medical school, like you cover
an old food pyramid and that's like, yes, like there's
like barely no time focused on healthy eating and like
the way all that works, and you know, and so
I thought that was a really interesting point that he raised.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Well, yeah, and I mean, the food pyramid is such
a great thing that just totally needs to be overhauled.
But back to the point that I was making earlier,
there's this there's this you know term avoidable deaths, right,
these preventable desks, and and most of these desks can
be prevented by interventions and lifestyle changes. And that's what's
so alarming from a you know, from a medical school perspective, right,
(10:21):
is that they're learning, which is really important. There's absolutely
a time and a place for medicine. Multiple of you know,
my siblings and family members are doctors. There's a time
and a place when you need a pediatrist to treat
your foot, or an e NT to treat you know,
a specific problem in your your nose or whatever it
might be. But the point is that for most Americans,
(10:41):
the average quote unquote primary care should be something like
an integrative medicine that's treating the body as a whole
and looking at maintenance and prevention. Right. So that's that's
the biggest I think shift that needs to be made.
It's not to hell with all the medicine, No, not
at all. I Mean there's prolific doctors that save lives
every single day, and that is really important, but that
(11:02):
shouldn't be just our standard primary care, right, And that's
I think that's the big difference.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Well, yeah, and then you know a lot of times
you get on medication and then you know the medication
has side effects, and then that could lead to others,
you know, and then you're just playing whack a mole
at this point, I guess you had mentioned you'd got into.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
The space at eighteen. What led you to that?
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Yeah, So my backgrounds in the food and beverage industry.
I started my career quite young, eighteen and developing consumer
products ever since. I kind of landed in this unintentionally.
I was in my second week of college down at
the University of San Diego. I met a group of
entrepreneurs who were starting an organic juice company. I thought
of it sort of as a fun internship, got involved,
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started working directly with the CEO of that company, and
just loved it. I loved this combination of you know, manufacturing,
product development, and then I you know, learned a lot
about the advertising, the marketing, the sales of these products.
And then you also and doing so servicing customers like
Walmart and and all of these different retailers across the country.
You learn a lot about the American consumer. And what
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stood out to me was that there wasn't this, you know,
the narrative that you know, American consumers are fat and lazy.
No they're not. There was actually this demand of Americans
to be healthier, right, And so how do we help
these How do we help these consumers that are you know,
spending more than ever on their healthcare, but yet are
so unhealthy. How do we help them through tangible solutions?
(12:27):
And I found these consumer products to be a wonderful
way to do so. So this just led me, you know,
through through the last decade plus, led me to search
for more and more of the root causes and solutions.
I think that talking about these issues is so important. Obviously,
the awareness in the media has done a fantastic job.
I think covering some of these issues very recently historically
we haven't talked about them as much. But I'm very
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solution oriented as just the way that I'm created and
the way that I think I really want to, you know,
come to the table with the solution. And so when
I learned more and more about you know what a
Americans we're really struggling with, what you end up finding
is that the gut microbiome, which is what my company
Daily and Oria has focused on. The gut microbiome is
the foundation of human health. This collection of bacteria that
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lives in and on your body quite literally controls how
you're feeling from head to toe. And that to me
was so interesting and I just thought, you know what,
this is such a good use of energy and resource
to develop solutions for the microbiome. So that's how I
could have got started, and ever since then have been
kind of head down and quite busy. But it is
(13:31):
I think really important that as we dig, you know,
dig and find all these problems, that we also really
are solution oriented with our approach.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
And so Daily Nori it's a precision probiotics. I guess
dig in a little bit more. You talked about it
a little bit, but dig into more about how gut
health is tied to good health.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Yeah, yeah, great question. So the gut microbiome is either
your front or your foe, right, I mean, that's one
really easy way to look at it. Diverse of the
bacteria in your body, right, so you can't see it
with the human eye, which makes it hard. But the
diversity of bacteria in your body is so important that
if you lose the diversity in your body, which we
(14:12):
are through our diets, like I was mentioning earlier, highly
processed foods just kind of wreck the diversity of good
bacteria in your body. But then also environmental factors, some
of which we have control of and some of which
we don't, right, And all of these things, adding into
lack of exercise, lack of time and nature, these are
all really taking a toll on the diversity of our microbiomes.
(14:32):
And so when we're losing the diversity, we're losing quite
literally function, right, And so that's a very interesting thing
to think about because then gets passed down to the
next generation. One of the main things that's impact of
this has been the increase of use of antibiotics in
our foods, right, so specifically our meat. And then how
that's impacting the body. And that's really novel to this generation, right,
(14:56):
that just started happening with the boomer generation now down
to them all millennials, and so hopefully we'll reverse a
lot of that. But these these things that we're eating
and the environment that we're living in is just wrecking havoc,
wreaking havoc on our on our microbiomes. And so, you know,
the microbiome is important for many different reasons traditionally, and
I think as many consumers understand it. It controls your digestion, right,
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your digestion and your digestive system live in your microbiome.
But then also, and this is something that you know
was really brought to the surface during twenty twenty and
twenty twenty one, your immune system. So seventy to eighty
percent of your immune cells live in your microbiome, so effectively,
without your gut microbiome, you do not have an immune system.
And what's interesting about that is that the immune system
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is reliant on the microbiome for its functionality and its intelligence.
So this you know, diversity of the microbiome. This is
why we sell probiotics that help consumers increase the diversity
of their microbiome. A diverse microbiome actually does a better
job of instruct the immune system. So when you see
something that's novel to a human being, like a COVID virus, right,
(16:07):
that we saw which is really interesting now in all
the publications post COVID that the consumers and Americans that
had a stronger gut health and diversity of a gut
microbiome going into COVID actually had milder cases of COVID
and recovered quicker. So we know that the gut microbiome
plays such an important role in digestion, such an important
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role in the immune system. And then also things like
women's health, your brain health, serotonin, mood, etc. So it's
quite literally It's why I say good health starts with
gut health, right, but it is foundational for the human body,
metabolic health, weight health, et cetera. So I mean, it's
quite literally connected to every single system in your body.
It's profound the impact that just focusing on your gut
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health would have to your entire entire trajectory of your life.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Quick break more on making America healthy again. No, it's
wild how interconnected the body is. I mean, I even
I for my acl in high school and I tweaked
it a couple of years ago and I went to
physical therapy and he was like, your ankles are too
tight and like we need to work on your outer glutes.
And I was like what, like you know what I mean?
(17:15):
I was like, I was like, wait, what, I'm here
for my knee, you know.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Well, And it's that's that's the point of the functionality
of the human body, right, and how we do have
to really treat it holistically. I mean, it's every little
system is interconnected. It's it's very profound.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
You know.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I've been reading a lot too, so I've been, you know,
not as into it as you are, obviously and starting
a company and doing really well with it. But I've
been trying to get more into health and you know,
I've not been drinking and you know, just trying to
like be and I'm going into forty.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
I just want to be healthy and like, you know,
feel my best. And you know a lot of that
ties to.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Like inflammation too in the body, you know, causes a
lot of issues.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
So I guess you know, how does.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Daily nori and how does uh you know, gut health
impact that.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Yeah, So I mean a few things for inflammation, but
the main thing that we look at is actually again
back to the food, right, that's the best thing for inflammation.
You know, a couple of the things that I would
say that are just incredibly important, easy tips for everyone
that will help with inflammation but really help with with
gut health. Also, avoid highly processed foods. That's the first thing.
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It's very hard, Like I said earlier, these foods are
designed to be addictive, They're designed to be you know,
quote unquote drugs, so it is very hard for a
lot of people to avoid them. But do everything and
anything you can to avoid highly processed foods. That's the
first thing. These are incredibly inflammatory, also incredibly damaging to
your microbiome, your metabolic health, your brain health, and more.
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And then the second thing is to get outside and
move more so to the point of inflammation. I mean,
just exposure to natural environments moving primarily walking, Like, don't
overcomplicate it, you don't even need to do these crazy
hard workouts, but just getting outside and walking is one
of the best things you can do for inflammation, heart health, longevity,
et cetera. And it's you know, also again one of
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the easiest and absolute best things you can do to
support your digestive health, especially during the holidays when you're
eating a lot, kind of sitting around a lot, so
getting up and walking. And then the third thing that
we say is just add in a high quality probiotic
and providic supplement to your daily routine and that will
help with inflammation. It'll help with also just making sure
that your digestion is fluid and that you can really
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start to start to feel a difference in that you
know what systems are working and what aren't. You know,
the interesting thing about the digestive system is that it
gives you incredible biofeedback right very quickly. And if your
digestion is off, you know it, you feel it, your
stomach urtz, you're bloated, et cetera. So I mean those
three things I would say as far as inflammation is concerned, primarily,
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I just keep going back to this. It's the if
there's one takeaway, I mean, this is the biggest thing
for gut health and pro oral health. It's just to
avoid highly processed foods and to focus on diet. There
is no supplement that can supplement for that, right, and
I own a supplement company. I think it's really important
to recognize that that it is supplementative to your diet
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and exercise and lifestyle. It's not to replace that. So
those are the three things I would say when it
comes to inflammation, and you know, and then there's obviously
specific things for women and specific things for men, but
just for everyone, those are the three most tangible things
you could do going into this new year.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Yeah, because it's like I follow a bunch of like
these health people and they're always talking about how like
inflammation can you know, like how that's like one of
the big important things to being healthy and you know,
to losing weight and like all that.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
I've also noticed, you know too, Like, so I've been
trying to like cut down on alcohol and because it's
like as you get older, it's like you have two
glasses of wine and you feel like crap the next
day and it just destroyed, right, and so but so
I've been trying to not do it, and like it
is wild just the difference of like energy levels and
you know, just feeling more clear minded and you're ready
(21:05):
to tackle the day and you know, and so you
know that just like especially as we talk about you know,
this will air the week of New York New Year's
Eve or the newer and you know, just something to
think about as everyone goes out for a new view.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
It's so true, though, I mean it's and it's hard
socially understand that. And I understand that's you know, it's
it is really who you surround yourself with in so
many of these these environments. It's very hard. However, you know,
the two things that really, you know, are are the
devils are really alcohol and sugar, right, And so again
that's why you talk about you you talk about processed foods,
(21:41):
you're really talking about sugars as well. But yeah, avoiding
alcohol and specifically for women. This is something I was
just talking to one of our advisors about yesterday. So
when you look at issues for women, right, and hormone health,
which is something we've been focusing on a lot, avoiding sugar, alcohol,
processed foods for younger women, right, so women of reproductive
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age that might be struggling with something like PCOS, which
is on the rise in fertility. These things are so
important to remove from your diet. I mean it's like
you can't over you know, overstress. The point here that
for women and even during menopause. Obviously it's the easiest
option to just say I'm going to just relax with
a glass of wine, but the reality is that your
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hormone health and the balance and regulation of hormones is
so important to not.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Do that, and cortisol levels are key to to kindactly
staying healthy, especially as a woman, and keeping weight off.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Exactly that the metabolic health and keeping weight off, that's
exactly rightly, So that's and that's you know, a desire
of a lot of women, right especially when your metabolism
starts to slow down naturally as it does.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Why do you think before we go, you know, how
much of the food do you think that we're eating
impacts sort of? You know, we are seeing issues with
fertility rates in the country, both for men and women.
How much of that do you think it's tied to
what we're eating as a country.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
I think a lot of it. I think that it's
really hard to say, right and there's obviously a lot
of different statistics on this, but one thing that we
know right now is speaking you know, directly to fertility
now PCOS polycystic ovariance and now is impacting about ten
percent of women of reproductive age, which is a lot.
And PCOS is the leading cause of infertility and at
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its root cause, PCOS is a metabolic issue. So in
the US right one of the leading solutions, so to speak,
quote unquote for PCOS is to put women on a
hormonal birth control, which actually just makes the problem a
lot worse, Whereas in the UK there is a study
of treating PCOS with a ketogenic diet. And so I know,
(23:51):
you know, our medical advisors, my personal doctor, those that
I surround myself with, I guess I would say, are
looking at how do we treat infertility now? Actually, and
the first thing they're doing with all of their patients
is changing their diet, adding in supplements that are needed.
And this sounds so it's so simple, but it's true.
They're they're telling them to drink more water, right, to
(24:12):
avoid alcohol. So all these things I think play a
huge role. And I would just encourage any anyone. And
I've got a lot of friends that are unfortunately struggling
with this right now, to focus first on and forced
on their diet and the foods that they're consuming. So
hard to say exactly what percentage, but we do know Lisa,
we do know more about PCs now, and we do
know that, you know, being a leading cause of infertility,
(24:35):
one way to treat PCs is diet. So I think
that it's making a big impact and it's something that
we're going to know more and more about, unfortunately, because
these rates are getting worse, not better.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah, the best shape I've ever been in was during COVID,
and I was doing keto and like working out every
day because I basically was like this is going to
go one of two ways. Am either going to get
really fat ye or I can do like prison shape.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
You know. We're like, yeah, we're remember when people go
to prison.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
And they get in like really good shape because you
literally have nothing else to do with your life. So
I was like a prison diet person shape, you know,
like I can't go.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
And do things. I'm just going to get in shape.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
No, And it's a lot of people did take that approach.
And and then I mean I was, you know, in
between Georgia at that point and then spent a lot
of time on the West Coast as well. But then
the other thing that a lot of people do, I
think was so smart was just get outside right when
I was taking walks like crazy, and so yeah, I mean,
but we should we should always be treating our bodies
like that. And I think that, you know, hopefully not,
(25:31):
but you never know when the next virus is going
to come around. Like we should always be prepared. And
that's that's the biggest thing that I've learned about the
gut micro biome, and it's it's you know, impact on
the immune system is that you want to be prepared, right.
You don't want to be caught with tons of inflammation
and your body unable to respond when something like COVID
comes along. You want to be the person that you know, yep,
(25:52):
I got COVID, but you know it was a mild
case and I was inside for a few days and
then I was fine. Right, That's that's how the human
body should react these things. So we've got a long
way to go, but like, you know, like we were saying,
I think there's there's more reasons reasons to be encouraged
than ever with the Make America Healthy Again movement and
the new administration coming in the ideas that people have
(26:14):
and and really just the unwavering commitment to make sure
that there's solutions out there. So I feel very inspired
and very encouraged. We'll see, right, we'll see what happens.
And there's a lot of work to be done. This
is going to be a lifelong project, but it is
looking better than it has before, so that's encouraging.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
And then a big fight too, because there's some you know,
big Pharma is a big lobby and probably the biggest,
and then also or one of the biggest maybe defense,
but uh and then also you know big food big
you know, so there's a lot the Trump administration will
be up against a lot with those fights. Where where
can people find more information about Daily Nor? Where can
(26:52):
they get at.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Yep, so Daily Nor. The best place to find us
is just online Www dot Daily Nor. That's inn o.
You are dot com on Amazon and also nationally at retailers.
So we're nationally at Walmart, Albertson, Safeway, HGB, Meyer and
more so we're in a few thousand stores nationwide. But
online is where most people find us.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
That's a big deal. That's awesome. Congratulations on the success
of your company.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
That's amazing.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Thank you, Lisa, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Caroline Carolero, I appreciate your time, appreciate you joining the
show and so super helpful and interesting.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
So thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
You're welcome, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
That was Caroline Carolero. Appreciate her for taking the time
to join the show. Appreciate you guys at home for
listening every Monday and Thursday, but you can listen throughout
the week. Also want to thank John Cassio, my producer,
for putting the show together.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Until next time.
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