March 18, 2025 • 16 mins
This episode centers around the critical Wisconsin Supreme Court race, highlighting the significant political and judicial implications of the election. Judge Brad Schimel discusses the influence of outside money in the race, the importance of judicial objectivity, and critiques his opponent's record. The discussion also touches on the broader issue of judicial activism and the ethical considerations surrounding campaign support for judicial candidates. The Truth with Lisa Boothe is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network - new episodes debut every Tuesday & Thursday.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
There's a race in Wisconsin on April first that you
probably haven't heard about.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
So far, over forty million.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Dollars has been spent on ad reservations, both aired already
or for future reservations in this race. It's the Wisconsin
Supreme Court race. So why does it matter? Why am
I covering it on here? You might ask, Well, you
look at a lot of these Supreme courts in these
states and you look at the issues before them.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
We're talking about registracting, we're.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Talking about election laws, We're talking about issues of crime,
issues of importance, issues that in fact the rest of
the country, particularly when you look at a battleground state
like Wisconsin. So that's why this race has gotten so
much attention. That's why so much money is flowing into
this race. This race will determine the ideological outcome of
(00:51):
the Wisconsin Supreme Court. And then you look at the
liberal candidate in this race. I mean, it's supposed to
be a nonpartisan, but we know where this lady is.
And she sentenced a repeat child creditor who has found
guilty on three counts of first degree sexual assault of
a child under thirteen. This individual is facing one hundred
years behind bars. Guess how much she gave him four
(01:13):
years in prison. She's received donations from George Soros, so
you know where.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
She stands on the issues.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
That's all you need to know that George Soros supports
this woman. So we're going to have Judge Brad Shimmel
on the show. He is running against this woman. We're
going to talk to him about why this race matters,
why you should care, what does he believe, Where does
he come down on these important issues, how does he
view the constitution? So stay tuned about this Wisconsin Supreme
(01:41):
Court race with the candidate, Judge Brad Schimmel.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Well, Judge Shimmel, it's great to have you on the show.
You've been busy.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
You're in a tough race right now, which is recently
a guy received a lot of national attention, and you
just had the debate.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
We've seen it.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Over forty million has been spent on ad reservations, both
aired and also for future reservations. That's a big chunk
of change for a Supreme Court race in this manner.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Why do you think this has gotten so much attention.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Well, it started in twenty twenty three with the race
then where the liberal candidate was out on the campaign
trail promising how she was going to rule on cases,
and they enticed money in from billionaire liberal donors from
across the country. She got ten million dollars transferred directly
to her campaign, and then of course the outside money
(02:42):
came in an independent ad bias as well. This year,
my opponent actually got caught doing a zoom call with
national billionaire liberal donors promising that if she got on
the court, they were going to turn two Republican congressional
seats into Democrat congressional seats. By ALTI made the court
redistricting those congressional districts and making it harder for the
(03:05):
Republican to win. This is given national donors the notion
that they can affect national politics, and of course Wisconsin
always affects national politics because we're the ultimate swing state.
So the road to the White House goes here. Every
presidential election. We get so many visits from presidential and
vice presidential candidates and other surrogates because this matters. So
(03:30):
they know that the Wisconsin Supreme Court can affect the
election integrity laws, how they're enforced, how they're applied, and
so they see opportunity to take the Wisconsin Supreme Court majority.
They saw that opportunity in twenty twenty three, they took
the majority and now they're fighting desperately to hang on
to it.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
And also redistricting as well, which you know, the liberal
majority has been accused of activism before with that, so
you know, a lot of important issues.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
In this race, specifically this would this comes down to
the balance of power of the court, correct.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Right, this is it And if if a conservative doesn't win,
if I don't win April first, the next chance for
a conservative, for the Conservatives to take back the majority
is not till twenty twenty eight, So the liberals will
have had five years they're running through a political agenda.
Five years of them going through their political agenda is
going to leave this state unrecognizable.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
What do you think this race comes down to?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
You know, what would you put up as sort of
the key reasons why you should be elected, Why Wisconsinites
should care, why maybe even people outside of the state
should care.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
It's a very simple, very traditional issue. Courts need to
be objective courts. You know, everybody has political baggage, we
all have a history, we all have opinions. Anybody who
puts on the black robe to serve at a judge.
As a judge at any level must be able to
make the commitment that they're going to set their political,
(05:00):
political and personal views aside and decide the case objectively.
We've lost that on Wisconsin Supreme Court. And you know
when you lose that. I was just talking with a
business alliance group and I delivered this message to them.
Would any of you make would eether you make a
choice to hire more employees, to expand your operations, to
(05:21):
move your operation to Wisconsin if you don't have stability
in the law, if you don't know that the court
is going to follow the law as it's passed by
the legislature and not change it on their own, because
you can influence what the legislature does by writing to them,
testifying to them, lobbying, getting them thrown out of office
(05:43):
if they're not doing the right thing. Supreme Court justices,
they serve a ten year term in Wisconsin that's effectively lifetime.
They almost never get thrown out after the first term.
And now instead of one hundred and thirty two legislators
in Wisconsin making the law, you have four justices on
the Supreme court doing it. No one's going to take
a risk in Wisconsin to put people to work, which
(06:05):
makes our state thrive. We will stagnate. I remember years
ago when Illinois had a Republican governor and we had
a Democrat governor, so you got to go back aways.
But there used to be a sign as you crossed
into Illinois south of Kenosha on nine to ninety four
that said, with the last business leaving Wisconsin, please turn
(06:25):
the lights off. They were so Illinois was drawing so
many businesses away from us because our climate was so
unstable and so unfriendly to operating a business here. We
flipped that and now you could put that sign going
the other way. You can flip that right back just
as easily if we don't restore that objectivity and stability
to the law in Wisconsin.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
And we saw the court recently rule in issues like
you know, ballid drop boxes and reinstating reinstating their use
in twenty twenty four after twenty.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Twenty two ban.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Also, this eight eighteen forty nine statute on the book
regarding abortion has gotten a lot of attention. What came
tell us about that? Why has that gotten so much attention?
What do people need to know, well.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
They need to know that the court's playing politics with this.
It was over five months ago that the oral arguments
were concluded on this case. The Court's dragging their feet
to issue a decision because they wanted to stay alive issue.
That question will be decided by this court, it was
heard this session. That means they will be issue a
decision by the end of the term in June. By
(07:30):
the time I take office on the Court in August,
that issue is done. That law. I presume that the
Liberals are going to strike it down. But the question
they raise is whether during the Wisconsin legislature then put
some other restrictions in place that would survive Roe v.
Wade evaluation. You know that you couldn't outright ban abortion,
(07:54):
So the the the question raised in that case is
whether those laws passed in twenty fifteen, for instance, now
supersede and cancel out the eighteen forty nine law. That's
the question in that case. But that will be resolved,
and it's frankly dishonest of the liberals to keep making
that an issue in this I will never have a
(08:16):
chance to address that law. It'll be done by the
time I get there.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
We've got more with Judge Shimmel, but first, after more
than a year of war, terror and pan in Israel,
the need for security essentials and support for first responders
is still critical.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Even in times of ceasefire.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Israel must be prepared for the next attack, wherever it
may come from, because Israel's surrounded by enemies on all sides.
The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews has supported and
will continue to support the people of Israel with life
saving security essentials. Your gift today will help save lives
by providing bomb shelters, armored security vehicles and ambulances, firefighting equipment,
(08:52):
flack jackets and bulletproof fests, and so much more. Your
Gini's donation today will help ensure the people of Israel
are safe and secure in the days to come. Give
a gift to bless Israel and her people by visiting
SUPPORTIFCJ dot org. That's one word SUPPORTIFCJ dot org or.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Call eight eight eight four a.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Eight IFCJ that's eight eight eight four a eight IFCJ
eight eight eight four a eight four three two five.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
What can you tell us about Susan Crawford.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
She was a highly partisan Chief Legal counsel for former
Democrat Governor Jim Jim Doyle. Then she went on to
private practice where she had represented some of the most
far left groups in Wisconsin. I've been thirty five years
in public service. That means my only client for thirty
five years has been the people of Wisconsin. She was
(09:46):
the lead attorney that attacked our voter id law, called
it draconian, compared it to a poll tax. She was
the lead attorney that represented Planned Parenthood going after any
abortion restrictions that the legislator legislature put in place during
the Roe v. Wade time. She's a far left extremist.
Those groups are supporting her now.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Well, and she's also getting hit.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I know you've brought this to light as well about
how she's sentenced to repeat child predator who has found
guilty on three counts of first degree sexual assault of
a child under thirteen years. This individual was facing one
hundred years behind bars, but Shelley sentenced him to four
years in prison.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
It's wacas, Yeah, walk.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Us through that, and walk us through because we've seen
Wisconsin also sort.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Of become you know, ground zero for a lot you know.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Jacob Blake and a lot of these you know, soft
on crime issues, So walk us through what we need
to know about that.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Well, I want to be clear, that is one example
of many that we've found. It's routine for her to
do these things. My opponent is a circuit court judge
in Jane County, Wisconsin. That's where Madison is. It's far
and away our most liberal county in the state, which
she can'taign for office. There. She was proud of her
liberal track record and she campaigned on using alternatives to incarceration. Well,
(11:09):
now she's trying to run from that on the bench.
This is one of many cases that we found where
she has been extraordinarily light on child predators. In the
case you've cited, Lisa, there was a man, an adult man,
who repeatedly had sexual intercourse with a five year old girl.
She let that man out on a signature bond, no
(11:32):
cash at all posted. She permitted him to live across
the street from an elementary school while the case was pending.
It went to trial, the little girl had to testify.
The jury convicted the man, she still didn't revoke his bail.
She still let him out on a five hundred dollars
signature bond. Still let him live across the street from
that school as a convicted sex predator child sex predator
(11:54):
now and ultimately she gave him a sentence that resulted
in him serving less than two years after the sentencing date,
before he was back in the community and now living
within walking distance of a school. Again. This is one
of many cases we've found that demonstrate extraordinarily bad judgment
on her part, she puts. She puts the admitted in
(12:15):
the debate on Wednesday night that she believes she believed
it was more important to focus on that offender and
other offenders rehabilitative needs than to focus on the need
to protect their.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Community, Which would make sense why someone like George Sorows
would want to fund.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Her yeah, to the tune of a million dollars before
before the end of last year. We don't know how
much more may have given so already by now.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Then she's attacking you for Elon Musk involving himself and
financially in this race.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Right.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Take us through your time as.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
A Wakash County judge. What are you most proud of
during that time? How would you define what kind of
judge you've been?
Speaker 3 (12:58):
You know, one of the you know, the left accuses
me of being this, being a hyper partisan extremist. I'll
tell you this. In my courtroom, what I'm proud of
is attorneys thank me after trials, eat both sides or
the objective hearing they got of their case. It is
(13:19):
liberating to me when I go into my courtroom and
there's no politics. Everything in our life now is political.
Even cartoons that kids watch are political. You can't turn
out a sitcom without having some politics in it. I
sit down, I sit in my courtroom with my RoboN
and there is no politics. You know, Judges take a
(13:40):
different oath than other public officials in Wisconsin. We of course,
we of course swear to uphold and defend the Constitution,
but we add one added piece that the others don't.
We swear that we will administer justice without regard to persons.
Doesn't mean we don't care about people. What it means
is that it doesn't matter who's sitting in front of us,
(14:00):
whether they're the most popular person in town, whether Republican
or Democrat or whatever. It doesn't matter. What matters are
the facts of the case and the law. That's all
that's refreshing to me. That's what I'm most proud of
in my work as a judge, and I stay objective
until the very last argument is made, until I get
(14:21):
all of my questions answered. And many times I'll start
out the hearing after having read the briefs believing that
I was going to go one way in the case,
but after I get my questions answered, I end up
flipping it. My court clerk gets whiplashed sometimes when she
spins her head to look at me after I announced
the decision. She wasn't expecting because I listened to the
(14:43):
litigants and I saw the path when I applied the
law properly.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Would you describe yourself as an originalists?
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Yes? Absolutely. When looking at the Constitution, we can't treat
that like it's some moving changing target that changes at
as public as the public whims change. It has to
have a foundational basis in our for our judicial system
to work.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
And then before we go, why do you think we've
seen this increase of activism with judges?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
What's behind that?
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Because liberals are frustrated that their ideas can't win at
the ballot box for you know, for elect for legislative offices.
So they've figured out just like they figured out decades
ago if they take over the judic the journalism schools,
and the education schools, they'll reap the benefits years later.
(15:40):
And they have. They've done the same thing now with
the courts. They've recognized if they can pump money and
all their effort into getting people on the courts, they
don't need to win the legislature anymore because now the
courts can make the rules the way the liberals want.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
And where can people go to support you?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Shimmel for Justice dot com, s C H I AM E,
L F O R Justice dot com and you can
find all of the ads we've run. You can find
our press releases that tell the truth about this race.
I'm not allowed to ask for donations, that's prohibited for
judicial candidates, but you can find out on our website
how you can help our campaign, help us to win.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
On April first, Good Shimo.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
We appreciate your time, sir, and we hope.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
That you win. So thank you.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
That was Judge Brad Shimmel. Appreciate him for making the
time to join the show. Appreciate you guys at home
for listening every Tuesday and Thursday.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
But you can listen throughout the week until next time
There's a race in Wisconsin on April first that you
probably haven't heard about.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
So far, over forty million.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Dollars has been spent on ad reservations, both aired already
or for future reservations in this race. It's the Wisconsin
Supreme Court race. So why does it matter? Why am
I covering it on here? You might ask, Well, you
look at a lot of these Supreme courts in these
states and you look at the issues before them.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
We're talking about registracting, we're.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Talking about election laws, We're talking about issues of crime,
issues of importance, issues that in fact the rest of
the country, particularly when you look at a battleground state
like Wisconsin. So that's why this race has gotten so
much attention. That's why so much money is flowing into
this race. This race will determine the ideological outcome of
(00:51):
the Wisconsin Supreme Court. And then you look at the
liberal candidate in this race. I mean, it's supposed to
be a nonpartisan, but we know where this lady is.
And she sentenced a repeat child creditor who has found
guilty on three counts of first degree sexual assault of
a child under thirteen. This individual is facing one hundred
years behind bars. Guess how much she gave him four
(01:13):
years in prison. She's received donations from George Soros, so
you know where.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
She stands on the issues.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
That's all you need to know that George Soros supports
this woman. So we're going to have Judge Brad Shimmel
on the show. He is running against this woman. We're
going to talk to him about why this race matters,
why you should care, what does he believe, Where does
he come down on these important issues, how does he
view the constitution? So stay tuned about this Wisconsin Supreme
(01:41):
Court race with the candidate, Judge Brad Schimmel.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Well, Judge Shimmel, it's great to have you on the show.
You've been busy.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
You're in a tough race right now, which is recently
a guy received a lot of national attention, and you
just had the debate.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
We've seen it.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Over forty million has been spent on ad reservations, both
aired and also for future reservations. That's a big chunk
of change for a Supreme Court race in this manner.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Why do you think this has gotten so much attention.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Well, it started in twenty twenty three with the race
then where the liberal candidate was out on the campaign
trail promising how she was going to rule on cases,
and they enticed money in from billionaire liberal donors from
across the country. She got ten million dollars transferred directly
to her campaign, and then of course the outside money
(02:42):
came in an independent ad bias as well. This year,
my opponent actually got caught doing a zoom call with
national billionaire liberal donors promising that if she got on
the court, they were going to turn two Republican congressional
seats into Democrat congressional seats. By ALTI made the court
redistricting those congressional districts and making it harder for the
(03:05):
Republican to win. This is given national donors the notion
that they can affect national politics, and of course Wisconsin
always affects national politics because we're the ultimate swing state.
So the road to the White House goes here. Every
presidential election. We get so many visits from presidential and
vice presidential candidates and other surrogates because this matters. So
(03:30):
they know that the Wisconsin Supreme Court can affect the
election integrity laws, how they're enforced, how they're applied, and
so they see opportunity to take the Wisconsin Supreme Court majority.
They saw that opportunity in twenty twenty three, they took
the majority and now they're fighting desperately to hang on
to it.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
And also redistricting as well, which you know, the liberal
majority has been accused of activism before with that, so
you know, a lot of important issues.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
In this race, specifically this would this comes down to
the balance of power of the court, correct.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Right, this is it And if if a conservative doesn't win,
if I don't win April first, the next chance for
a conservative, for the Conservatives to take back the majority
is not till twenty twenty eight, So the liberals will
have had five years they're running through a political agenda.
Five years of them going through their political agenda is
going to leave this state unrecognizable.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
What do you think this race comes down to?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
You know, what would you put up as sort of
the key reasons why you should be elected, Why Wisconsinites
should care, why maybe even people outside of the state
should care.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
It's a very simple, very traditional issue. Courts need to
be objective courts. You know, everybody has political baggage, we
all have a history, we all have opinions. Anybody who
puts on the black robe to serve at a judge.
As a judge at any level must be able to
make the commitment that they're going to set their political,
(05:00):
political and personal views aside and decide the case objectively.
We've lost that on Wisconsin Supreme Court. And you know
when you lose that. I was just talking with a
business alliance group and I delivered this message to them.
Would any of you make would eether you make a
choice to hire more employees, to expand your operations, to
(05:21):
move your operation to Wisconsin if you don't have stability
in the law, if you don't know that the court
is going to follow the law as it's passed by
the legislature and not change it on their own, because
you can influence what the legislature does by writing to them,
testifying to them, lobbying, getting them thrown out of office
(05:43):
if they're not doing the right thing. Supreme Court justices,
they serve a ten year term in Wisconsin that's effectively lifetime.
They almost never get thrown out after the first term.
And now instead of one hundred and thirty two legislators
in Wisconsin making the law, you have four justices on
the Supreme court doing it. No one's going to take
a risk in Wisconsin to put people to work, which
(06:05):
makes our state thrive. We will stagnate. I remember years
ago when Illinois had a Republican governor and we had
a Democrat governor, so you got to go back aways.
But there used to be a sign as you crossed
into Illinois south of Kenosha on nine to ninety four
that said, with the last business leaving Wisconsin, please turn
(06:25):
the lights off. They were so Illinois was drawing so
many businesses away from us because our climate was so
unstable and so unfriendly to operating a business here. We
flipped that and now you could put that sign going
the other way. You can flip that right back just
as easily if we don't restore that objectivity and stability
to the law in Wisconsin.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
And we saw the court recently rule in issues like
you know, ballid drop boxes and reinstating reinstating their use
in twenty twenty four after twenty.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Twenty two ban.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Also, this eight eighteen forty nine statute on the book
regarding abortion has gotten a lot of attention. What came
tell us about that? Why has that gotten so much attention?
What do people need to know, well.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
They need to know that the court's playing politics with this.
It was over five months ago that the oral arguments
were concluded on this case. The Court's dragging their feet
to issue a decision because they wanted to stay alive issue.
That question will be decided by this court, it was
heard this session. That means they will be issue a
decision by the end of the term in June. By
(07:30):
the time I take office on the Court in August,
that issue is done. That law. I presume that the
Liberals are going to strike it down. But the question
they raise is whether during the Wisconsin legislature then put
some other restrictions in place that would survive Roe v.
Wade evaluation. You know that you couldn't outright ban abortion,
(07:54):
So the the the question raised in that case is
whether those laws passed in twenty fifteen, for instance, now
supersede and cancel out the eighteen forty nine law. That's
the question in that case. But that will be resolved,
and it's frankly dishonest of the liberals to keep making
that an issue in this I will never have a
(08:16):
chance to address that law. It'll be done by the
time I get there.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
We've got more with Judge Shimmel, but first, after more
than a year of war, terror and pan in Israel,
the need for security essentials and support for first responders
is still critical.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Even in times of ceasefire.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Israel must be prepared for the next attack, wherever it
may come from, because Israel's surrounded by enemies on all sides.
The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews has supported and
will continue to support the people of Israel with life
saving security essentials. Your gift today will help save lives
by providing bomb shelters, armored security vehicles and ambulances, firefighting equipment,
(08:52):
flack jackets and bulletproof fests, and so much more. Your
Gini's donation today will help ensure the people of Israel
are safe and secure in the days to come. Give
a gift to bless Israel and her people by visiting
SUPPORTIFCJ dot org. That's one word SUPPORTIFCJ dot org or.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Call eight eight eight four a.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Eight IFCJ that's eight eight eight four a eight IFCJ
eight eight eight four a eight four three two five.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
What can you tell us about Susan Crawford.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
She was a highly partisan Chief Legal counsel for former
Democrat Governor Jim Jim Doyle. Then she went on to
private practice where she had represented some of the most
far left groups in Wisconsin. I've been thirty five years
in public service. That means my only client for thirty
five years has been the people of Wisconsin. She was
(09:46):
the lead attorney that attacked our voter id law, called
it draconian, compared it to a poll tax. She was
the lead attorney that represented Planned Parenthood going after any
abortion restrictions that the legislator legislature put in place during
the Roe v. Wade time. She's a far left extremist.
Those groups are supporting her now.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Well, and she's also getting hit.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I know you've brought this to light as well about
how she's sentenced to repeat child predator who has found
guilty on three counts of first degree sexual assault of
a child under thirteen years. This individual was facing one
hundred years behind bars, but Shelley sentenced him to four
years in prison.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
It's wacas, Yeah, walk.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Us through that, and walk us through because we've seen
Wisconsin also sort.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Of become you know, ground zero for a lot you know.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Jacob Blake and a lot of these you know, soft
on crime issues, So walk us through what we need
to know about that.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Well, I want to be clear, that is one example
of many that we've found. It's routine for her to
do these things. My opponent is a circuit court judge
in Jane County, Wisconsin. That's where Madison is. It's far
and away our most liberal county in the state, which
she can'taign for office. There. She was proud of her
liberal track record and she campaigned on using alternatives to incarceration. Well,
(11:09):
now she's trying to run from that on the bench.
This is one of many cases that we found where
she has been extraordinarily light on child predators. In the
case you've cited, Lisa, there was a man, an adult man,
who repeatedly had sexual intercourse with a five year old girl.
She let that man out on a signature bond, no
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cash at all posted. She permitted him to live across
the street from an elementary school while the case was pending.
It went to trial, the little girl had to testify.
The jury convicted the man, she still didn't revoke his bail.
She still let him out on a five hundred dollars
signature bond. Still let him live across the street from
that school as a convicted sex predator child sex predator
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now and ultimately she gave him a sentence that resulted
in him serving less than two years after the sentencing date,
before he was back in the community and now living
within walking distance of a school. Again. This is one
of many cases we've found that demonstrate extraordinarily bad judgment
on her part, she puts. She puts the admitted in
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the debate on Wednesday night that she believes she believed
it was more important to focus on that offender and
other offenders rehabilitative needs than to focus on the need
to protect their.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Community, Which would make sense why someone like George Sorows
would want to fund.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Her yeah, to the tune of a million dollars before
before the end of last year. We don't know how
much more may have given so already by now.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Then she's attacking you for Elon Musk involving himself and
financially in this race.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Right.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Take us through your time as.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
A Wakash County judge. What are you most proud of
during that time? How would you define what kind of
judge you've been?
Speaker 3 (12:58):
You know, one of the you know, the left accuses
me of being this, being a hyper partisan extremist. I'll
tell you this. In my courtroom, what I'm proud of
is attorneys thank me after trials, eat both sides or
the objective hearing they got of their case. It is
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liberating to me when I go into my courtroom and
there's no politics. Everything in our life now is political.
Even cartoons that kids watch are political. You can't turn
out a sitcom without having some politics in it. I
sit down, I sit in my courtroom with my RoboN
and there is no politics. You know, Judges take a
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different oath than other public officials in Wisconsin. We of course,
we of course swear to uphold and defend the Constitution,
but we add one added piece that the others don't.
We swear that we will administer justice without regard to persons.
Doesn't mean we don't care about people. What it means
is that it doesn't matter who's sitting in front of us,
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whether they're the most popular person in town, whether Republican
or Democrat or whatever. It doesn't matter. What matters are
the facts of the case and the law. That's all
that's refreshing to me. That's what I'm most proud of
in my work as a judge, and I stay objective
until the very last argument is made, until I get
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all of my questions answered. And many times I'll start
out the hearing after having read the briefs believing that
I was going to go one way in the case,
but after I get my questions answered, I end up
flipping it. My court clerk gets whiplashed sometimes when she
spins her head to look at me after I announced
the decision. She wasn't expecting because I listened to the
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litigants and I saw the path when I applied the
law properly.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Would you describe yourself as an originalists?
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Yes? Absolutely. When looking at the Constitution, we can't treat
that like it's some moving changing target that changes at
as public as the public whims change. It has to
have a foundational basis in our for our judicial system
to work.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
And then before we go, why do you think we've
seen this increase of activism with judges?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
What's behind that?
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Because liberals are frustrated that their ideas can't win at
the ballot box for you know, for elect for legislative offices.
So they've figured out just like they figured out decades
ago if they take over the judic the journalism schools,
and the education schools, they'll reap the benefits years later.
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And they have. They've done the same thing now with
the courts. They've recognized if they can pump money and
all their effort into getting people on the courts, they
don't need to win the legislature anymore because now the
courts can make the rules the way the liberals want.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
And where can people go to support you?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Shimmel for Justice dot com, s C H I AM E,
L F O R Justice dot com and you can
find all of the ads we've run. You can find
our press releases that tell the truth about this race.
I'm not allowed to ask for donations, that's prohibited for
judicial candidates, but you can find out on our website
how you can help our campaign, help us to win.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
On April first, Good Shimo.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
We appreciate your time, sir, and we hope.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
That you win. So thank you.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
That was Judge Brad Shimmel. Appreciate him for making the
time to join the show. Appreciate you guys at home
for listening every Tuesday and Thursday.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
But you can listen throughout the week until next time
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