In this episode, Maximo Alvarez joins Lisa to break down why understanding the real history of communism and socialism is essential to protecting American freedoms today. They examine how younger generations are being influenced by socialist narratives, the deceptive promises behind these ideologies, and how removing faith and moral grounding leaves societies vulnerable. The discussion wraps with a powerful reminder that safeguarding freedom requires awareness, education, and active engagement from every citizen. The Truth with Lisa Boothe is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network - new episodes debut every Tuesday & Thursday.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Truth with Lisa Booth, where we get
to the heart of the issues that matter to you. Today,
we're going to talk about something really important, this creeping
socialism and communism that is happening in America right now.
We saw this with New York City just selecting a
self avowed socialist mayor, or the fact that AOC is
being talked up for twenty twenty eight to be the
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Democrat nominee. We've recently seen studies and surveys like Axios
looking at college students and finding that sixty seven percent
view the world socialism positively or neutrally, while only forty
percent feel that way about capitalism. So is America sleepwalking
toward the same nightmare that forced our guest today the
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fleet Cuba as a boy. We're going to talk to
Cuban American businessman, and you probably remember him from the
twenty twenty RNC, the Republican National Convention, when he warned
us against taking the communist poison pill, talked about escaping
Castro's Cuba, the loss of freedoms he witnessed, and warning
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us about what could happen here in America. He is
also an entrepreneur and founder of Sunshine Gasoline Distributors, and
he joins me for this urgent wake up call that
you can't afford a mess. Stay with us, Max Moe.
It's great to have you back on the show, Sir.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I had you on a while ago.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I don't remember exactly when, you know, we were just
talking before we got started about how life just flies by,
and you know, thanksgivings right around the corner.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
So appreciate you coming on the show, Stir and making
the time.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
It's always an honor to be in your show. And
I really appreciate what you have done for so long,
which is to let people understand what is going on
and being on the right side of the equation. So
I really thank you to me as an owner being here.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Well, thank you, sir.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
You know you've been a powerful of freedom and reminding
us here in America that you know, freedom can be fleeting.
You've fled communist Cuba, and you know you told us
this message at the twenty twenty RNC speech, you know,
warning us about what you saw under Castro's grip in
Cuba and the loss of freedoms that you witnessed, and
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warning us to not swallow the communist poison pill. Unfortunately,
it seems in New York City they have you know,
they just selected Zion mom Donnie, a self described socialist.
Some people call him a communist, but he's gonna be
the mayor of New York City. Why do you think
he won? And you know what does this mean to you?
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You know what did you think when you saw that
he won?
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Well, first of all, it's a lesson that we should learn, Lisa,
I understood communism at a very young age, and by
the way, we went through some very difficult times. But
as you get older, as I get older, I realized
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that I was a blessing because I was born.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
To a mother and a father who.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Already knew what it was like to be under the
communist regime. They had fled Spain back in the turn
of the century, and they worked very hard. There were
teenagers when they came to Quila, and they worked very hard,
and when they were about to enjoy the fruit of
the labor from one day to the next, they lost everything.
So I am blessed to have learned at such an
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early age what it means. What is the communist philosophy?
You know, very few people in our country, understand what
the end justified the means it's all about, simply because
we are raised in a different culture. Okay, no matter
what religion you practice in America, you're not supposed to lie,
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You're not supposed to steal, you're not supposed to kill,
and so on and so forth. You have to honor
mom and dad, you have to love God, and the
most important, if you violate anything, we still have to
forgive you. Now, keep that in mind. So even the
conscience that we have formed from the time were born.
When you do something wrong, even if people don't realize
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that you did something wrong, you know it. So when
you look at yourself in the mirror, you know because
you have a conscience that tells you you did wrong and.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
You feel bad about it.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
You may feel good that you get away with it,
but you really understand that you did something wrong. Now
you take a child that is indoctrinated from the time
he's born into the Carmenis philosophy, where the ends justify
the means. They can lie, they can steal, they can
do anything, including killing, as long as they get what
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they want to get. In other words, if I want
to have your automobile and said, Lisa, I want to
take over your automobile and you say, no, Max, I
need it. I can kill you. And when I kill you,
they'll say, why you kill her because I want her car?
Oh that's okay then, So how many people really understand that?
Not only understand I lid that I saw people being
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murdered just for saying something against the revolution, just to
say I felt Castro is a bad guy. Castro is whatever.
Boom because they don't forgive you. And it is very
sad that in one of our major but probably the
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biggest city in the Union, to see young people not
understanding what you can just see when you look at Cuba,
when you look at Venezuela, would you see what is happening?
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Lisa.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
This country may be the worst country in the world,
but you don't see anybody live in this country to
go somewhere else. Everybody wants to come here. So why
we want to come here if this is such a
bad country? These people hate America, These people hate our country.
And look what the background is, Look what they came from.
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Why don't they go back? What are they here? What
they want to install here? The very same reason or
the very same situation that made them live where they
come from.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
How do you think we got here though? You know,
why do you think?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Because it's really the shift to particularly with young people.
I mean, Axios did this survey recently of US college
students and found that sixty seven percent view the word
socialism positively or neutraally, and only forty percent feel that
way about capitalism, which you know, means we're heading towards
this socialism worldview and then leading to communism. So like,
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why are some young people embracing this? How do you
think we got here?
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Let me start by saying that the term socialism is
just affront. The United States of America is the more
socialist country in the world. Otherwise I wouldn't be here.
I came here with nothing and the generosity allowed me
to go to school, to open a business, and to
be free.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
That's socialism. Communism is what they are.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
And of course they use the word socialists and democrats
because that is a marketable idea, much more marketable than
the word communism, because everybody knows that communism is bad,
so they claim to be socialist democrats. They're not the
communist Okay, Now, why why is this happening simply because
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they do a better job than we do. They start
indoctrinating their children from the time they're born, when they
go to school. They started that time. We are a
free country, we take things for granted. We don't do
as good of a job in education as they do.
It all starts in education. By the time a kid
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gets to high school or college, they're already indoctrinated. And
they use our constitution, our rights, they use them in
their favor to attackles and then defend them.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Do you follow me?
Speaker 3 (08:35):
They go on work business and they say that it
is a peaceful demonstration, and of course you have the
right of freedom, they have the freedom of speech and
all that. Why don't you go to their country and
try to do that. See what happens. So they use
our constitutional rights to destroy us, and we don't understand that,
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we take it for granted. For example, I'll give you
an example. My son, who it's on the right side
and very intelligent and reads a lot. Hermie says something
negative about young people burning the flag and the university.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
And he literally got in my face. He says that that.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Listen, you may be upset because they burn the flag
but that is not a crime. The constitution allows them
to do that because this is a free country, and
says dad, you don't want to lose freedom, do you.
So you can be upset, you can teach him, but
you cannot kill him, and you cannot punish them because
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and that's why we have the best country in the world.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
So here he's right, he's totally correct.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
But we need to do something because we cannot continue
on people allow. So maybe we need to pass some
regulation that if you burn a flag, you know your
sentenced to something, because why would you allow that's me.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
That's not freedom, that's abuse of freedom.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
So what they do, if you notice they're teaching kids
the aide super important things to ruin a country.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
One, make sure that everybody depends on the government. That's
why they want.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
To give you free food, pre education, free health care.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Number two, make sure that nobody believes in God or
nobody believes in a supernatural power, so you live here
from day to day.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
They n justify the means.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Make sure that everybody hates everybody else. Make sure that
the Whites hate the Blacks, and the Jews hate the Christians.
And make sure that this is divide and conquer. Make
sure that nobody has weapons. That's the first thing. Every
time there's a shooting. Of course, we're going to have
more regulations because they don't want you to have weapons.
Why do they want to have weapons because our constitution
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provides you the capat to have Why because you can
have a civil war when you're threatened, and you can
defend your property in your life with the weapon.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
They don't want that.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
So these are the things that they teach the kids
from the time you're born, and by the time they
get to high school.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
They already brainwashed.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
They already have by the way, they already have swallowed
that communies poison pill that I mentioned. And this is
the problem. We need to pay attention to education. Thank
guarding the state of Florida, we pass some legislation that
every school has to teach about the uls of communism. Now,
the thing is, that's a lot. Now we passed it.
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Now we need to enforce it because a lot of
that is in the books that you don't enforce it
non existent. So I think it's very sad that we
allow somebody in Congress that tells you disobey the orders
of the president or the army of the Navy, where
you have sworn that you will follow the orders, and
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that should be punished. You should not be an elected
official and try what are they doing. They're trying to
promote insurrection. And then just so, what happened during that
famous summer there were burning businesses, innocent people, and the
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media was saying, oh, this is peaceful demonstration and no
one got prosecuted. This is crazy. So we need to
study in school, Lisa, that is the most important. Naturally,
we're very fortunate that we have a president who understands this,
and the first thing that he did is to close
the borders. A nation without borders is not a nation.
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Why don't these people open the doors at night in
their homes. Why don't they when they have.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
An illegal limingal, why don't they bring them? Why don't
they adopt?
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Got to take a quick break more with Maximo on
the other side. You know, Maximo, we see with the
promises of socialism and communism, it always starts out with
you know, quality, and it ends with oppression. President Trump
gave a speech a while back to the Venezuelan community
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in twenty nineteen in Miami, and he said, we know
that socialism is not about justice. It's not about equality.
It's not about lifting up the poor. It's about one thing,
only power for the ruling class. And the more power
they get, the more they crave. That's inevitably what happens here, right, Like,
there's all these promises of equality, and then you have
the power concentrated with the ruling class, and they oppress
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the rest of society.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Lisa, you know, I was eleven years old when Castro
gave the first speech in Havana.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
I happened.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
You know, everybody had to listen because everywhere, I mean
you know, in schools, everybody had. Everybody had listened to
that speech. Okay, if not, you were punished. So I
pretty much remember most of that speech. And when I
heard Obama give this opening speech when he became president,
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I had goose bumps because it was the same bas
I remember exactly.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
It's all about social justice.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
They even asked with the orchestra one time if he
was a communist, and he went crazy. He says, some
Roman Catholic educated by the Jesuits. I am not communists.
I believe in social justice, really, and the same promise
free education, re food, free healthy the same bs.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Every country is the same way.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
I remember telling you know, I was distributed with Sego
petroleum by Venezuela at the time when Javis takes over
and started acting up. I remember telling these are engineers,
these are well educated people. I remember telling them, I said, listen,
this is a replica of Cua. Everything that happened yesterday
happened in Cuba in such and such a year. Oh Max,
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come on, we got petroleum, we got oil. You know,
Qua only had some sugar cane. You know, we supply
twenty percent of the They didn't believe it by the time.
By the time they understand that, it's too late. And
it is the useful idiots who get them in there.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Who do they go.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Listen, if you're hungry and I offer you a bone,
you follow me because you get nothing to lose.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
And this is what they do.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
They prey on the people's feelings, people who perhaps are
not as fortunate or as lucky or hardwor whatever.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
The case may be.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
And that if you're a student and you have a
degree and you cannot get a job because you got
a degree in basket weaving, and you all thirty thousand
dollars to loans and I come over to you and
I said, I'm gonna pay for you loan. You're gonna
found me. And this is what they do. They're all
false promises, but they don't tell you who's gonna pay
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for that. They're always giving. They're giving somebody else's money.
When that's somebody else's money is finished, that's it. Everybody's
the same, everybody's poor. And look at them, they got
all the money. Look look at the castles in Cuba.
Look look at the people from Venezuela. The people in
power got all the money. The rest of the country
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is in shambles.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Well you mentioned, you know, just to remind listeners, you're
an entrepreneur. You're the founder of Sunshine Gasoline Distributors. And
we saw you know, you look at Venezuela, you know,
one of the richest countries in the world. Uh, you know,
by nineteen fifty to nineteen seventy because of these massive
oil revenues, and so Venezuela went from you know, a
once very rich country too poor because of the policies
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that we're speaking of. And you know, yet the lead
like Maduro is rich, he's got money, but the rest
of the citizens are struggling and are impoverished and are starving.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
It all started in nineteen fifty nine when Castle takes over.
Believe it or not, you can look it up. It's
it's public record. Cuba had about six million people. Cuba
had the same standard of living of the United States
of America. The Cuban pestel was equivalent to the American dollar.
Havana was the same as it is Las Vegas today. Okay,
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So the automobiles were sold in Cua a month before
they were putting the market in America in the United States.
So Cuba was one of the most progressive pieces of
property in America. And from one day to the next,
this guy destroyed Cuba.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Just look at it right now.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
These people don't even have sugar, which is amazing. Cube
at the time in nineteen fifty nine, and you can
check it out, they had one one cattle per citizen
or more so, Cuba again had the same standard of
living in the United States of America. And in no
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time at all, he made it into one of the
poorest places in the world.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
And what is the Castro family.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
They've been there over sixty some years and they talk
about democracy You gotta be kidding me. If you read
the Queen history, don't in the Fidel Castra. Oh they
got rid of the dictator Battista. Really well, the dictator
wasn't there sixty some years, but he was a dictator.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
You're not. It's amazing, It's really amazing.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
And the thing is, we need to start in kindergarten
teaching our children making sure that we reserve the family
values that got us here. They are destroying us one
value at the time. They're teaching kids about changing sex
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when they're eight and nine years old. They're teaching kids
making sure that they don't believe in God, making sure
that they believe that we destroying the environment.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Because we have fossil fuels. This is crazy.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
So what I think is the most important part besides
going to vote in the midterms, because by the way
we lose the mid terms, we're in trouble. Besides voting
and making sure that you love your country, we need
to start teaching children this is your country, this is
your family. There's no one like mom and dad, there's
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nothing like God. And we are not doing a very
good job. By the way, idea how much it has
negatively impacted me when we lost a.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Guy like Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I know this is a friend.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
This is so.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Why do you think they get rid of Charlie Kirk
because he was making an impact and who was working
with young people and they were frustrated because he was
on the common This is all about common sense? Is
this is not about you don't have to you don't
have to be a doctor. You have to go to
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Harvard to understand this. How can you possibly think that
your country is better by allowing anybody who wants to
come here not even knowing who they are. When somebody
knocks at your daughter night, at least you look through
a big hole. At least you say who is it?
So whatever Churchill said it better. Communism is the cancer
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of humanity. And that is the best that I can
summarize anything about communism. Every place, every place that has
tried has failed.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Quick break.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
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media or maybe send it to your friends and family.
Why do they remove God? You had mentioned the removing God?
Why is that important in the reforts to implement these ideas?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Because that way, not only you live from day to day,
but you become totally dependent on government, on the ruler,
because the ruler controls your health care, your food, your education,
your wellbeing, and if you don't conform with the ruler,
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they'll dispose of you. That's why. So if you are
a person of faith, you know that you're here on
a short period of time and something much.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Better awaits us.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
And we really are free to make sure that we
do the right things, just like you're free to do
the wrong things. But you know that God is all
powerful or knowledge, and that is the eternity. Because we're
only here for a short period of time, and we
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need to teach our kids not to be motivated by money,
but motivated by your dream, motivated by being the best
that you can be, by understanding that in this country,
it's the only country in the world that you can
start a business from the trunk of your car like
I did and become very successful. I couldn't have done
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what I did in any other country, for sure. So
we need to not only understand and love God and
Jesus rights who gave his life so that we could
earn the eternal reward, but that he told us the
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values that if you practice, you will always be successful.
And by the way, success is not measured by how
much money you accumulate, how many assets you may have.
Success is by the day that you're gone. But the
last day you look back and you say, I helped
make this place a little bit better than when I
found it.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
I did my job, And this is we need to
promote that right now. Look what we're doing this.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
We're paying a young man out of high school a
million dollars or more to play football, and then if
he doesn't get to play the position that he wants
to play, he leaves that place and goes to another place.
You've heard about loyalty. Loyalty is something that is extremely
valuable in life. And teaching the kids forget about loyalty,
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just chase that dollar. Were teaching the kids. Forget about
a contract. You sign a contract, break it. There's no consequences,
so you got no money to pay for it. You're
teaching kids it's okay. It's okay to have a divorce.
You don't get along with your wife, get rid of her.
We teaching our young girls, Oh, make sure that that
guy he has enough money. This is not the country
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and this is not the home that I was born in.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
You know from your perspective, you mentioned it earlier when
you were talking, But why do you think Joe Biden
opened the border in the way that he did?
Speaker 3 (24:38):
First of all, between you and I don't think that
was Joe Biden. I think it was somebody else who
was telling Joe Biden what to do and say, nod
his head as if he had anything to do with it.
And the poor poor man I pray for him all
the time. Still today he suffered from the mention he
had no idea what he was doing. So let's start
with that. Why because this is again, this is again,
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this is how they take over the country. You flood
the country with these people who were going to destroy
you from within. They have criminals, They have all these
people who came to this country. Naturally, some of them
are really good people who came for the right reason.
But forget about. Even if all of them are good,
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but five of them are bad. Do you know how
much damage one individual can do? Forget about? Do you
remember ninety eleven? Can you imagine how much damage one
individual can do inside our country? We already have people
like that in our government elected of visuals.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
I don't know if you heard Mark Rubez. Somebody told me.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
I didn't see it, but somebody told me that there
was Secretary Stay poundering the table's talking to Kassio and
the other the one that wears that stuff.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
On her head. I don't remember her name, and I
don't want it.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
You know.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
We make sure elan Omaran correct. And Marcus says, if
you hate this country, where then you leave? What are
you doing here? You hate this country? What are you
doing here? You shouldn't be here. And that's the case.
They hate this country.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
They want to convert this country into something that they
came from. And that's listen, we go and we kill
Rosama bern Ladda right because she was enemy number one?
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Right, Yes, about your sorrows? How do you call him?
Speaker 3 (26:25):
This guy has publicly said that he wants to destroy
the United States of America and all the money that
he's made in this country, and we allow him to
be Okay, this is again my song. Will get on
my case and say that that's our constitution with a
free country. That is abuse of freedom and that should
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be persecuted. I don't care what anybody says. If you
try to market insurrection and to tell people who have
signed to be in the military to disobey orders and
you're an elected official.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Really yeah, we saw some Democrats do that recently. And
then before we go, Maxima, what's your final warning to us?
So hopefully wake some people up who might be asleep
at the bill right now.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
I you know, again, it's very difficult. I really think
it works when I go and I talk to the
kids in middle school, and you can tell how they
pay attention and they really understand, especially when somebody who
has suffered the consequences of being on the communist regime.
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But it's very difficult to talk to a crowd because
you know, only it's not cool to listen to somebody
saying something to so many people at one time. But
I think if I have to say something is very simple.
Look at you, look around you, look at your neighbor.
Look what happened in every QBA is only ninety miles
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from Florida.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Look what happened in Cuba.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Look at Venezuela, one of the richest countries in South America.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
Matter of days, it went from something to nothing.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Look what is happening in places like Nicoaua and so
on and so forth. It's it's just it's amazing. So
I guess the best way to learn is to learn
from things that happen to other people. Just be careful,
don't swim in there. There are sharks. So the problem
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is when you talk to an audience, there will all.
It takes just a couple of jokers to start laughing
and they don't listen to you anymore.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
That's why Charlie Kirk was so effective.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
He would go to the school and talk to each
and everyone on an individual basis. First of all, he
listened a lot of times. We don't listen, we listen.
And then, without being offensive, he would always say, but
this is what I believe. I don't want you to
believe what I believe, but I want you this is
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what I believe, and this is what I believe.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
I remember one that.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
I I can tell you so many of them. I'm
pretty sure you saw him too. But there was this
black lady talking about white supremacy and she went on
and on and on and on, and Charlie was just
you know, and when she finished, she says, let me
ask you a question. Is there anything that you, as
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a black lady cannot do that I do as a
white man. Is there anything that you cannot do? She
said no, I can do everything you can. So he says,
ury cold blood. He said, so what is the argument?
Where's the supremacy? And of course she was psy next
and then he would go on, we need to learn
from Charlie. Charlie was a great teacher. Charlie was, Oh
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my god. Anyways, this is what we need to do.
We need to have more Charlie.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
No, we need more.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Charlie's need to start in kindergarten. We cannot wait to college.
It's too late.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Maximum Thank you so much for your time, sir.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
We always appreciate your voice and just keeping us reminded
of what's at stake here if we let our country go.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
So appreciate you, sir.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Thank you, Lisa. Keep doing what you're doing. Believe it
or not.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
I'm pretty sure that even if we can get to
have just one individual to understand, that's a success. Okay,
So keep it up and we definitely keep the faith
and we'll keep on fighting until we die.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Thank you, sir. Happy thanksgiving.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Thank you the same to your fans giving us every day.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Now, yes, yes, thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Every morning we give thanks. Thank you Lisa, that.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Was maximal Verez. Appreciate him for coming on the show.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Appreciate you guys at home for listening every Tuesday and Thursday,
but you can listen throughout the week. Also want of
the things John Cassio and my producer for putting the
show together.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Until next time.
Welcome to the Truth with Lisa Booth, where we get
to the heart of the issues that matter to you. Today,
we're going to talk about something really important, this creeping
socialism and communism that is happening in America right now.
We saw this with New York City just selecting a
self avowed socialist mayor, or the fact that AOC is
being talked up for twenty twenty eight to be the
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Democrat nominee. We've recently seen studies and surveys like Axios
looking at college students and finding that sixty seven percent
view the world socialism positively or neutrally, while only forty
percent feel that way about capitalism. So is America sleepwalking
toward the same nightmare that forced our guest today the
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fleet Cuba as a boy. We're going to talk to
Cuban American businessman, and you probably remember him from the
twenty twenty RNC, the Republican National Convention, when he warned
us against taking the communist poison pill, talked about escaping
Castro's Cuba, the loss of freedoms he witnessed, and warning
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us about what could happen here in America. He is
also an entrepreneur and founder of Sunshine Gasoline Distributors, and
he joins me for this urgent wake up call that
you can't afford a mess. Stay with us, Max Moe.
It's great to have you back on the show, Sir.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I had you on a while ago.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I don't remember exactly when, you know, we were just
talking before we got started about how life just flies by,
and you know, thanksgivings right around the corner.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
So appreciate you coming on the show, Stir and making
the time.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
It's always an honor to be in your show. And
I really appreciate what you have done for so long,
which is to let people understand what is going on
and being on the right side of the equation. So
I really thank you to me as an owner being here.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Well, thank you, sir.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
You know you've been a powerful of freedom and reminding
us here in America that you know, freedom can be fleeting.
You've fled communist Cuba, and you know you told us
this message at the twenty twenty RNC speech, you know,
warning us about what you saw under Castro's grip in
Cuba and the loss of freedoms that you witnessed, and
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warning us to not swallow the communist poison pill. Unfortunately,
it seems in New York City they have you know,
they just selected Zion mom Donnie, a self described socialist.
Some people call him a communist, but he's gonna be
the mayor of New York City. Why do you think
he won? And you know what does this mean to you?
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You know what did you think when you saw that
he won?
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Well, first of all, it's a lesson that we should learn, Lisa,
I understood communism at a very young age, and by
the way, we went through some very difficult times. But
as you get older, as I get older, I realized
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that I was a blessing because I was born.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
To a mother and a father who.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Already knew what it was like to be under the
communist regime. They had fled Spain back in the turn
of the century, and they worked very hard. There were
teenagers when they came to Quila, and they worked very hard,
and when they were about to enjoy the fruit of
the labor from one day to the next, they lost everything.
So I am blessed to have learned at such an
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early age what it means. What is the communist philosophy?
You know, very few people in our country, understand what
the end justified the means it's all about, simply because
we are raised in a different culture. Okay, no matter
what religion you practice in America, you're not supposed to lie,
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You're not supposed to steal, you're not supposed to kill,
and so on and so forth. You have to honor
mom and dad, you have to love God, and the
most important, if you violate anything, we still have to
forgive you. Now, keep that in mind. So even the
conscience that we have formed from the time were born.
When you do something wrong, even if people don't realize
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that you did something wrong, you know it. So when
you look at yourself in the mirror, you know because
you have a conscience that tells you you did wrong and.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
You feel bad about it.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
You may feel good that you get away with it,
but you really understand that you did something wrong. Now
you take a child that is indoctrinated from the time
he's born into the Carmenis philosophy, where the ends justify
the means. They can lie, they can steal, they can
do anything, including killing, as long as they get what
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they want to get. In other words, if I want
to have your automobile and said, Lisa, I want to
take over your automobile and you say, no, Max, I
need it. I can kill you. And when I kill you,
they'll say, why you kill her because I want her car?
Oh that's okay then, So how many people really understand that?
Not only understand I lid that I saw people being
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murdered just for saying something against the revolution, just to
say I felt Castro is a bad guy. Castro is whatever.
Boom because they don't forgive you. And it is very
sad that in one of our major but probably the
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biggest city in the Union, to see young people not
understanding what you can just see when you look at Cuba,
when you look at Venezuela, would you see what is happening?
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Lisa.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
This country may be the worst country in the world,
but you don't see anybody live in this country to
go somewhere else. Everybody wants to come here. So why
we want to come here if this is such a
bad country? These people hate America, These people hate our country.
And look what the background is, Look what they came from.
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Why don't they go back? What are they here? What
they want to install here? The very same reason or
the very same situation that made them live where they
come from.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
How do you think we got here though? You know,
why do you think?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Because it's really the shift to particularly with young people.
I mean, Axios did this survey recently of US college
students and found that sixty seven percent view the word
socialism positively or neutraally, and only forty percent feel that
way about capitalism, which you know, means we're heading towards
this socialism worldview and then leading to communism. So like,
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why are some young people embracing this? How do you
think we got here?
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Let me start by saying that the term socialism is
just affront. The United States of America is the more
socialist country in the world. Otherwise I wouldn't be here.
I came here with nothing and the generosity allowed me
to go to school, to open a business, and to
be free.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
That's socialism. Communism is what they are.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
And of course they use the word socialists and democrats
because that is a marketable idea, much more marketable than
the word communism, because everybody knows that communism is bad,
so they claim to be socialist democrats. They're not the
communist Okay, Now, why why is this happening simply because
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they do a better job than we do. They start
indoctrinating their children from the time they're born, when they
go to school. They started that time. We are a
free country, we take things for granted. We don't do
as good of a job in education as they do.
It all starts in education. By the time a kid
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gets to high school or college, they're already indoctrinated. And
they use our constitution, our rights, they use them in
their favor to attackles and then defend them.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Do you follow me?
Speaker 3 (08:35):
They go on work business and they say that it
is a peaceful demonstration, and of course you have the
right of freedom, they have the freedom of speech and
all that. Why don't you go to their country and
try to do that. See what happens. So they use
our constitutional rights to destroy us, and we don't understand that,
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we take it for granted. For example, I'll give you
an example. My son, who it's on the right side
and very intelligent and reads a lot. Hermie says something
negative about young people burning the flag and the university.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
And he literally got in my face. He says that that.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Listen, you may be upset because they burn the flag
but that is not a crime. The constitution allows them
to do that because this is a free country, and
says dad, you don't want to lose freedom, do you.
So you can be upset, you can teach him, but
you cannot kill him, and you cannot punish them because
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and that's why we have the best country in the world.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
So here he's right, he's totally correct.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
But we need to do something because we cannot continue
on people allow. So maybe we need to pass some
regulation that if you burn a flag, you know your
sentenced to something, because why would you allow that's me.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
That's not freedom, that's abuse of freedom.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
So what they do, if you notice they're teaching kids
the aide super important things to ruin a country.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
One, make sure that everybody depends on the government. That's
why they want.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
To give you free food, pre education, free health care.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Number two, make sure that nobody believes in God or
nobody believes in a supernatural power, so you live here
from day to day.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
They n justify the means.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Make sure that everybody hates everybody else. Make sure that
the Whites hate the Blacks, and the Jews hate the Christians.
And make sure that this is divide and conquer. Make
sure that nobody has weapons. That's the first thing. Every
time there's a shooting. Of course, we're going to have
more regulations because they don't want you to have weapons.
Why do they want to have weapons because our constitution
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provides you the capat to have Why because you can
have a civil war when you're threatened, and you can
defend your property in your life with the weapon.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
They don't want that.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
So these are the things that they teach the kids
from the time you're born, and by the time they
get to high school.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
They already brainwashed.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
They already have by the way, they already have swallowed
that communies poison pill that I mentioned. And this is
the problem. We need to pay attention to education. Thank
guarding the state of Florida, we pass some legislation that
every school has to teach about the uls of communism. Now,
the thing is, that's a lot. Now we passed it.
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Now we need to enforce it because a lot of
that is in the books that you don't enforce it
non existent. So I think it's very sad that we
allow somebody in Congress that tells you disobey the orders
of the president or the army of the Navy, where
you have sworn that you will follow the orders, and
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that should be punished. You should not be an elected
official and try what are they doing. They're trying to
promote insurrection. And then just so, what happened during that
famous summer there were burning businesses, innocent people, and the
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media was saying, oh, this is peaceful demonstration and no
one got prosecuted. This is crazy. So we need to
study in school, Lisa, that is the most important. Naturally,
we're very fortunate that we have a president who understands this,
and the first thing that he did is to close
the borders. A nation without borders is not a nation.
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Why don't these people open the doors at night in
their homes. Why don't they when they have.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
An illegal limingal, why don't they bring them? Why don't
they adopt?
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Got to take a quick break more with Maximo on
the other side. You know, Maximo, we see with the
promises of socialism and communism, it always starts out with
you know, quality, and it ends with oppression. President Trump
gave a speech a while back to the Venezuelan community
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in twenty nineteen in Miami, and he said, we know
that socialism is not about justice. It's not about equality.
It's not about lifting up the poor. It's about one thing,
only power for the ruling class. And the more power
they get, the more they crave. That's inevitably what happens here, right, Like,
there's all these promises of equality, and then you have
the power concentrated with the ruling class, and they oppress
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the rest of society.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Lisa, you know, I was eleven years old when Castro
gave the first speech in Havana.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
I happened.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
You know, everybody had to listen because everywhere, I mean
you know, in schools, everybody had. Everybody had listened to
that speech. Okay, if not, you were punished. So I
pretty much remember most of that speech. And when I
heard Obama give this opening speech when he became president,
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I had goose bumps because it was the same bas
I remember exactly.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
It's all about social justice.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
They even asked with the orchestra one time if he
was a communist, and he went crazy. He says, some
Roman Catholic educated by the Jesuits. I am not communists.
I believe in social justice, really, and the same promise
free education, re food, free healthy the same bs.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Every country is the same way.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
I remember telling you know, I was distributed with Sego
petroleum by Venezuela at the time when Javis takes over
and started acting up. I remember telling these are engineers,
these are well educated people. I remember telling them, I said, listen,
this is a replica of Cua. Everything that happened yesterday
happened in Cuba in such and such a year. Oh Max,
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come on, we got petroleum, we got oil. You know,
Qua only had some sugar cane. You know, we supply
twenty percent of the They didn't believe it by the time.
By the time they understand that, it's too late. And
it is the useful idiots who get them in there.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Who do they go.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Listen, if you're hungry and I offer you a bone,
you follow me because you get nothing to lose.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
And this is what they do.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
They prey on the people's feelings, people who perhaps are
not as fortunate or as lucky or hardwor whatever.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
The case may be.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
And that if you're a student and you have a
degree and you cannot get a job because you got
a degree in basket weaving, and you all thirty thousand
dollars to loans and I come over to you and
I said, I'm gonna pay for you loan. You're gonna
found me. And this is what they do. They're all
false promises, but they don't tell you who's gonna pay
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for that. They're always giving. They're giving somebody else's money.
When that's somebody else's money is finished, that's it. Everybody's
the same, everybody's poor. And look at them, they got
all the money. Look look at the castles in Cuba.
Look look at the people from Venezuela. The people in
power got all the money. The rest of the country
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is in shambles.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Well you mentioned, you know, just to remind listeners, you're
an entrepreneur. You're the founder of Sunshine Gasoline Distributors. And
we saw you know, you look at Venezuela, you know,
one of the richest countries in the world. Uh, you know,
by nineteen fifty to nineteen seventy because of these massive
oil revenues, and so Venezuela went from you know, a
once very rich country too poor because of the policies
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that we're speaking of. And you know, yet the lead
like Maduro is rich, he's got money, but the rest
of the citizens are struggling and are impoverished and are starving.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
It all started in nineteen fifty nine when Castle takes over.
Believe it or not, you can look it up. It's
it's public record. Cuba had about six million people. Cuba
had the same standard of living of the United States
of America. The Cuban pestel was equivalent to the American dollar.
Havana was the same as it is Las Vegas today. Okay,
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So the automobiles were sold in Cua a month before
they were putting the market in America in the United States.
So Cuba was one of the most progressive pieces of
property in America. And from one day to the next,
this guy destroyed Cuba.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Just look at it right now.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
These people don't even have sugar, which is amazing. Cube
at the time in nineteen fifty nine, and you can
check it out, they had one one cattle per citizen
or more so, Cuba again had the same standard of
living in the United States of America. And in no
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time at all, he made it into one of the
poorest places in the world.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
And what is the Castro family.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
They've been there over sixty some years and they talk
about democracy You gotta be kidding me. If you read
the Queen history, don't in the Fidel Castra. Oh they
got rid of the dictator Battista. Really well, the dictator
wasn't there sixty some years, but he was a dictator.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
You're not. It's amazing, It's really amazing.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
And the thing is, we need to start in kindergarten
teaching our children making sure that we reserve the family
values that got us here. They are destroying us one
value at the time. They're teaching kids about changing sex
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when they're eight and nine years old. They're teaching kids
making sure that they don't believe in God, making sure
that they believe that we destroying the environment.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Because we have fossil fuels. This is crazy.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
So what I think is the most important part besides
going to vote in the midterms, because by the way
we lose the mid terms, we're in trouble. Besides voting
and making sure that you love your country, we need
to start teaching children this is your country, this is
your family. There's no one like mom and dad, there's
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nothing like God. And we are not doing a very
good job. By the way, idea how much it has
negatively impacted me when we lost a.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Guy like Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I know this is a friend.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
This is so.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Why do you think they get rid of Charlie Kirk
because he was making an impact and who was working
with young people and they were frustrated because he was
on the common This is all about common sense? Is
this is not about you don't have to you don't
have to be a doctor. You have to go to
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Harvard to understand this. How can you possibly think that
your country is better by allowing anybody who wants to
come here not even knowing who they are. When somebody
knocks at your daughter night, at least you look through
a big hole. At least you say who is it?
So whatever Churchill said it better. Communism is the cancer
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of humanity. And that is the best that I can
summarize anything about communism. Every place, every place that has
tried has failed.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Quick break.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
If you like what you're hearing, please share on social
media or maybe send it to your friends and family.
Why do they remove God? You had mentioned the removing God?
Why is that important in the reforts to implement these ideas?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Because that way, not only you live from day to day,
but you become totally dependent on government, on the ruler,
because the ruler controls your health care, your food, your education,
your wellbeing, and if you don't conform with the ruler,
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they'll dispose of you. That's why. So if you are
a person of faith, you know that you're here on
a short period of time and something much.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Better awaits us.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
And we really are free to make sure that we
do the right things, just like you're free to do
the wrong things. But you know that God is all
powerful or knowledge, and that is the eternity. Because we're
only here for a short period of time, and we
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need to teach our kids not to be motivated by money,
but motivated by your dream, motivated by being the best
that you can be, by understanding that in this country,
it's the only country in the world that you can
start a business from the trunk of your car like
I did and become very successful. I couldn't have done
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what I did in any other country, for sure. So
we need to not only understand and love God and
Jesus rights who gave his life so that we could
earn the eternal reward, but that he told us the
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values that if you practice, you will always be successful.
And by the way, success is not measured by how
much money you accumulate, how many assets you may have.
Success is by the day that you're gone. But the
last day you look back and you say, I helped
make this place a little bit better than when I
found it.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
I did my job, And this is we need to
promote that right now. Look what we're doing this.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
We're paying a young man out of high school a
million dollars or more to play football, and then if
he doesn't get to play the position that he wants
to play, he leaves that place and goes to another place.
You've heard about loyalty. Loyalty is something that is extremely
valuable in life. And teaching the kids forget about loyalty,
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just chase that dollar. Were teaching the kids. Forget about
a contract. You sign a contract, break it. There's no consequences,
so you got no money to pay for it. You're
teaching kids it's okay. It's okay to have a divorce.
You don't get along with your wife, get rid of her.
We teaching our young girls, Oh, make sure that that
guy he has enough money. This is not the country
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and this is not the home that I was born in.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
You know from your perspective, you mentioned it earlier when
you were talking, But why do you think Joe Biden
opened the border in the way that he did?
Speaker 3 (24:38):
First of all, between you and I don't think that
was Joe Biden. I think it was somebody else who
was telling Joe Biden what to do and say, nod
his head as if he had anything to do with it.
And the poor poor man I pray for him all
the time. Still today he suffered from the mention he
had no idea what he was doing. So let's start
with that. Why because this is again, this is again,
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this is how they take over the country. You flood
the country with these people who were going to destroy
you from within. They have criminals, They have all these
people who came to this country. Naturally, some of them
are really good people who came for the right reason.
But forget about. Even if all of them are good,
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but five of them are bad. Do you know how
much damage one individual can do? Forget about? Do you
remember ninety eleven? Can you imagine how much damage one
individual can do inside our country? We already have people
like that in our government elected of visuals.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
I don't know if you heard Mark Rubez. Somebody told me.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
I didn't see it, but somebody told me that there
was Secretary Stay poundering the table's talking to Kassio and
the other the one that wears that stuff.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
On her head. I don't remember her name, and I
don't want it.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
You know.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
We make sure elan Omaran correct. And Marcus says, if
you hate this country, where then you leave? What are
you doing here? You hate this country? What are you
doing here? You shouldn't be here. And that's the case.
They hate this country.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
They want to convert this country into something that they
came from. And that's listen, we go and we kill
Rosama bern Ladda right because she was enemy number one?
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Right, Yes, about your sorrows? How do you call him?
Speaker 3 (26:25):
This guy has publicly said that he wants to destroy
the United States of America and all the money that
he's made in this country, and we allow him to
be Okay, this is again my song. Will get on
my case and say that that's our constitution with a
free country. That is abuse of freedom and that should
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be persecuted. I don't care what anybody says. If you
try to market insurrection and to tell people who have
signed to be in the military to disobey orders and
you're an elected official.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Really yeah, we saw some Democrats do that recently. And
then before we go, Maxima, what's your final warning to us?
So hopefully wake some people up who might be asleep
at the bill right now.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
I you know, again, it's very difficult. I really think
it works when I go and I talk to the
kids in middle school, and you can tell how they
pay attention and they really understand, especially when somebody who
has suffered the consequences of being on the communist regime.
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But it's very difficult to talk to a crowd because
you know, only it's not cool to listen to somebody
saying something to so many people at one time. But
I think if I have to say something is very simple.
Look at you, look around you, look at your neighbor.
Look what happened in every QBA is only ninety miles
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from Florida.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Look what happened in Cuba.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Look at Venezuela, one of the richest countries in South America.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
Matter of days, it went from something to nothing.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Look what is happening in places like Nicoaua and so
on and so forth. It's it's just it's amazing. So
I guess the best way to learn is to learn
from things that happen to other people. Just be careful,
don't swim in there. There are sharks. So the problem
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is when you talk to an audience, there will all.
It takes just a couple of jokers to start laughing
and they don't listen to you anymore.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
That's why Charlie Kirk was so effective.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
He would go to the school and talk to each
and everyone on an individual basis. First of all, he
listened a lot of times. We don't listen, we listen.
And then, without being offensive, he would always say, but
this is what I believe. I don't want you to
believe what I believe, but I want you this is
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what I believe, and this is what I believe.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
I remember one that.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
I I can tell you so many of them. I'm
pretty sure you saw him too. But there was this
black lady talking about white supremacy and she went on
and on and on and on, and Charlie was just
you know, and when she finished, she says, let me
ask you a question. Is there anything that you, as
(29:35):
a black lady cannot do that I do as a
white man. Is there anything that you cannot do? She
said no, I can do everything you can. So he says,
ury cold blood. He said, so what is the argument?
Where's the supremacy? And of course she was psy next
and then he would go on, we need to learn
from Charlie. Charlie was a great teacher. Charlie was, Oh
(29:58):
my god. Anyways, this is what we need to do.
We need to have more Charlie.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
No, we need more.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Charlie's need to start in kindergarten. We cannot wait to college.
It's too late.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Maximum Thank you so much for your time, sir.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
We always appreciate your voice and just keeping us reminded
of what's at stake here if we let our country go.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
So appreciate you, sir.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Thank you, Lisa. Keep doing what you're doing. Believe it
or not.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
I'm pretty sure that even if we can get to
have just one individual to understand, that's a success. Okay,
So keep it up and we definitely keep the faith
and we'll keep on fighting until we die.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Thank you, sir. Happy thanksgiving.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Thank you the same to your fans giving us every day.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Now, yes, yes, thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Every morning we give thanks. Thank you Lisa, that.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Was maximal Verez. Appreciate him for coming on the show.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Appreciate you guys at home for listening every Tuesday and Thursday,
but you can listen throughout the week. Also want of
the things John Cassio and my producer for putting the
show together.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Until next time.
Host
Lisa Boothe
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