July 1, 2025 • 29 mins
In this episode, Lisa interviews former Congressman & FOX News analyst, Jason Chaffetz about his new book, "They're Coming for You." The discussion exposes how government agencies, NGOs, and corporations allegedly collude to suppress conservative voices and erode individual freedoms through surveillance and data collection. Chaffetz highlights concerning trends in voter registration efforts, the political weaponization of federal agencies, and the growing threat of technology-driven privacy violations. The Truth with Lisa Boothe is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network - new episodes debut every Tuesday & Thursday.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the Truth with Lisa Booth, where we cut
through the noise to try to getst the heart of
what matters. So today I'm going to scare you. I'm
actually going to scare the crap out of you, because
they're coming for you. We're diving into a chilling expose
with former congressmen and my Fox News colleague and friend
Jason Schaffitz, who is also Oversight Chairman, about his new book,
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They're Coming for You, how deep state spies, NGOs, and
woke corporations plan to punish you for your politics. Now,
a lot of us thought, because we won twenty twenty
four the presidential election, we won Congress, that we were
good to go, that we were safe. Well, Jason says,
not so fast. He reveals how a shadowy alliance of
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government insiders, big tech, and activist organizations that they're working
to silence US conservatives, weaponizing our institutions against US data
gathering as well, and also using the government to try
to control future elections. So we're going to dig into
some of this AI driven surveillance and manipulative algorithms that
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he's talking about in his book and pulling the curtain
back on all these threats to our freedom and what
we can do to fight back. So buckle up for
this scary but important conversation with my friend and colleague,
Jason Shaffins. Jason Schaffits, it's great to have you on
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the show again, my friend. Always great to be on
with you and looking forward to digging into your new book.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Well, thank you. It's always good to be with you,
and I wish show was with you in person. But
this is the next best thing.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
It is the next best thing. So I didn't really
so you were a three time New York Times bestselling author. Yeah,
I can't. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I never thought i'd write a book, and this is
my fifth book. And I love this one though, because
you know, it takes a long time. It took year
and a half, almost two years to put this together.
It's got four hundred and fifty footnotes. But you know
that's why it makes it a book worth reading.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I hope, and obviously I meant that you're very, very intelligent.
You've served in Congress, we've worked together.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
In numerous wait alone, three times is a lot, though,
That's like, that's really impressive.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I didn't realize that that's the big deal. You're kind
of a big deal, Jason.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Let's all understand that you shouldn't say, well, you're intelligent
and you're in Congress. That does not usually flow in
one sentence together.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
And those two things don't always overlap with you. They
do so.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Well, thank you. I served there for eight and a
half years, and there are a lot of idiots there.
I can tell you that I have no doubt I
could prove my thesis on that one.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
If you had to give a percentage, what percentage are idiots?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
It's like a third to third? A third is the
way I know it really is. You got a third
of people who who work hard, they work smart, they're
there for all the right reasons. They're not out carousing,
you know. Just then you got another third of them
that are out there and they just they're in the power.
They just want the power, but they couldn't tell you
policy to save their lives. And then the other third
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they're just kind of I have nothing else to do,
you know, I got elected and I'm still here, and
by golly, it's kind of fun to wear this pin.
But they're just like doing nothing. And it's so true,
like there's this story and I was told this before
I got to Congress, and it's so true. When you
get there, you're about six months in and every day
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you walk on the floor and you think, how did
I get here? This is unbelievable, Like this amazing what's
going on here? But about six months in, Lisa, you
look around and you start to say, now, how did
they all get here? Because did anybody ever meet this person?
They're an idiot?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Well, well I think that we have, you know, like
Jasmine Crockett comes to mind, you know, a there are
some that just sort of immediately pop up in the
thut bubble. But so your book is scary, Jason. They're
coming for you. How the deep state spies NGOs and
what corporations plan to punish you for your politics. This
is a scary book. So thanks a lot for scaring us.
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But so we think we win the twenty twenty four election,
which we did, thank god, and so we finally breathed
a sigh of relief that you know, the country is
turning back the common sense that you know we won,
but you say, not so fast, that Democrats are still
working behind the scenes. Walk us through that, and why
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even though you know it's nice to be in power.
Why we're not necessarily fully empower.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Well, I think what happened was particularly like my frame
of reference is Barack Obama. I was elected at the
same time as he was. But I think what the Democrats,
particularly Obama, had figured out is that legislating and changing
things was really hard. It's really difficult, and it wasn't
popular with the American people. And so what they did
is they just loaded up the piggy bank and started
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flushing all this money to these corporations and to these
Deep States buys and to these NGOs, non government organizations,
and then they could do what the government couldn't do.
And that's what Doge was all about. Right. Doze went
in by the hundreds of billions of dollars and identified
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the waste that was going out the door and how
it was funding these groups for nefarious activities that weren't
conducive to what Congress and the President and others had
laid out, and if they were exposed, they would be
wildly unpopular, if not illegal. So and then what my
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book really cut up, so think elon and think of
all the money. Okay they're coming for you really dives
deep into the data, because that's what it scares me,
is they have so much data about what you're doing
and how you're doing it. So like you'll go online
and you're happy to trade. You know, hey you can
follow me, or I'll follow your app and you know, yeah,
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you'll send me ads and you can. It's much much
deeper than that. The government is buying and selling your
data and it I mean, there's so much to this.
That's why I had to write a book. Because the
data that is flowing never goes away, and they can
use that to manipulate you in such a way. Even
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in this It literally in the last twenty four hours,
the Federal Reserve said that they're going to stop for
the remarkably, they're going to stop profiling people based on
their political persuasion to defend, to determine what kind of
credit score you should get. I mean, it's that detailed,
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and it's it is very scary when you dive in
deep in under the hood well.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
And in particularly when you look at something like the
RS Right, which has come under a scrutiny numerous times,
you know, particularly during the Obobbe years and the targeting
of the Tea Party. How was the r r S
or the I R S weaponizing like artificial intelligence and
monitoring us for political beliefs.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I mean what I was in Congress, we did hearings.
They had what were called stingrays, stingrays and simulated cell
phone tower and they had a couple of these, like
why would you need more than one? You're the I
R S. And what they're doing is they're building a
profile so they can literally either on an airplane or
in a vehicle and any they'll capture all of the
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data of all the phones that are within this certain radius,
and that'll tell you a lot about what's going on.
Who's that protest, Maybe who's going to cancer clinic, Maybe
who's going to an AA meeting. Maybe you don't know,
And that's the point. But they keep filling the bucket,
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and they combine this with facial recognition, and so we
detail the companies and the organizations and then we tie
it back to what, for instance, the FBI was doing.
And I actually held the hearing about this when I
was in Congress, but I didn't see the fuller picture
of how they were traversing this chasm that they would
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never be able to do legally. So for instance, Lisa Booth,
I want to go dive deeper and find out something
about you, Well you'd have to go get a warrant.
But they bypass all of that by tapping into private
companies who own all the data about Lisa Booth. But
it gets worse than that because the government, for instance,
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there are states out there like Florida where in the
past they have when you go to get your driver's license,
think of all your information, name data, birth, hair, color, weight, height,
all of that. Do you wear glasses, not wear glasses,
and they sell that to a data broker and they
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make money from it.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
So like, what what do they want to do with
that data?
Speaker 2 (09:10):
So it's what they've done started to do the nefarious
left the Democrats are doing. You know, there's a there's
a part of the book that says, this is how
they deal with it in China, Okay, and that's where
we're coming to here. I think there's seven hundred million
CCTV cameras in China. Every time you move somewhere, and
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they're checking your gate, they're checking your eyes, they're checking
your face, and they want to be able to see
where you are, what you're doing. And the worst part
about it is they then want to limit where you're going,
what you're doing, so what rates you pay for insurance,
whether or not you can get healthcare insurance, whether you
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are more appt to do this or that. And the
D banking is very real. I mean they even went
after Milania and Baron Trump and said no, so like
if we found out that Lisa Booth was a gun owner,
I am well, remember you had Operation choke Point with
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Barack Obama. And if you and there are key words
if you search the word Cabbella's or Dick's sporting goods
or Constitution, you know there were other key words like
if you were a MAGA pro American, love your country,
love the flag. You are on a highlight list where
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you may not pass your credit score, you may not
be able to get alone, you may not galle to
get into college. You may not be able to and
that is happening in real time. Even the Federal Reserve
was involved and engaged in this. But the D banking
and not allowing you to participate in the public square
or pay higher rates is just so fundamentally wrong.
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Speaker 1 (12:13):
How much of President Trump winning slows that down? Or
is that just or inevitable future? Like, is it possible
to put the genie back in the bottle or is
the you know, is the genie out well?
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I think Donald Trump certainly slows it down. I think
people recognize that conservatives are catching up to it. But
the data that is out there already, particularly for a
young person, like we detail in large part, like you
have kids that go to these schools and you think, oh, hey,
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Google will just give you a computer. How nice? Isn't
that nice that Johnny has a computer? Well, guests, who
gets to keep all that data? I mean in California,
they're spending a lot of money for what are called
commute to the schools, and they're they're collecting everything they
want you soup to nuts, start the bottom, where you
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get your haircut, who cuts your hair, what style of haircut?
I mean, all of that is captured into this data profile,
and we it's hard to put it back in the
genie back in the bottle. We go into what goes
on in your automobile. You may think, you know, basically
automobiles today are rolling computers and the amount of data
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that is collected about you, your habits and what you're
doing is going to be used against you, and it
shouldn't be. It should be you should have a basic
right of privacy. Trump understands that, but ooh, it's it's
getting to be a scary, scary world when you combine
in deep fakes, artificial intelligence, all of those types of things.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Finds a lot of sinus issues right now. So that
would be fun information because I just had a sinus procedure.
Doing is basically find a I've been able to breathe
for two months. So it's like it's like a lot
about snot really fun things. I hope they're enjoying collecting that. Uh, Lisa,
both exactly why can't I breathe? Hopefully?
Speaker 2 (14:18):
But yeah, let me give you another example that climate
groups really went after meat and dairy. They they believed
that cows create flatulence in the flatulence is just destroying
the earth. They don't want cows to even be on
the planet, let alone.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Can't fart in piece exactly that.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
You're snot reminded me of this so well. What they
did is they had one hundred and five groups signing
this letter because they were starting to be debated, and
how do you participate in today's community, electronic community with
transferring to funds, using a credit card, even right a
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check if you can't have a banking relationship. I mean,
they so they go after that. So they've been going
after a meet and dairy. They go after Trump supporters,
they go after firearms, they've gone after Christians. They certainly
went after, you know, January sixth, anything that might have
a reputational risk was what the Federal reserve. Although they're
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starting to back off again. I don't think that happens
without without the Trump And it's it's pretty scary how
many times they do that, Like how.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Early does this information gathering begin? Is it like with
kids as well? Or you know, what can you tell
us about that?
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah, as soon as you're as soon as you're born,
there's a record. But you know, in America, we don't
collect your DNA, we don't collect your fingerprints. You know,
it'll be easy enough to do, but you're supposed to,
as a suspicionless American be able to have this right
to privacy. This bypasses all of that and just negates it.
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And the government could never do it by itself. That's
why they send out the money. That's why they sell
the data. They sell the data, then they buy it.
And that's what your today, your law enforcement and your
regulatory bodies are doing at the federal and state level.
And that in the moment you start as a kid
in some schools they give you a quote unquote free computer.
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But the real question is who collects all that data?
Because it's not only what you're typing into your computer.
You also have video chat, and you have pictures, and
you have all of that is being scraped. So we
talk about this company. I'm not saying they did anything illegally,
but Clearview AI has tens of billions of photos. So
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if you sign up for Venmo, if you sign up
for Instagram, if you're on Snapchat, if you're on name
your social media or name somewhere, you put your picture
out on the internet. They're scraping that to build your
profile and then they're matching that.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
And there are.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
People out there. We go out to the absurd people
think it can tell whether you're gay or straight, and
they'll be like eighty to ninety percent correct, just based
on a variety of factors. And then they'll they have
who's of certain political persuasions. And so then you look
at what the government does with that, and we talk
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about Executive Order one for zero one nine. This is
what Joe Biden did where they directed the federal government
to help register to get people to vote, and they
took these profiles to get so that they're almost all Democrats.
That's how they turned out the vote using your federal
taxpayer dollars.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Yeah, so talk about that, the Executive Order fourteen zero
one to nine and voter mobilization, you know, kind of
walk us through how Democrats turned some of these federal
agencies into the voter mobilization tools for themselves.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah. What they did was literally days after Joe Biden
was sworn in he put out this executive order, they
had a meeting. In fact, the first chapter, first thing
we talk about is this meeting, and they brought it
in these outside groups and they started talking about key
buzzwords that nobody would disagree with. You know, we want
everybody to vote, we wanted people to have access to voting.
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But what they did was much more nefarious, and we
lay this out in detail in this They're Coming for
U book. Because they they took housing and urban development.
They took the Department of Commerce, for instance, and they
were in the Small Business Administration. Really bad examples that
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we highlight in Michigan where they didn't go into neutral
you know, they went into areas with a high propensity
of voters that are most likely to vote for Democrats.
And that's where they add these these changes and these
affairs and these and they were taking government employees on
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government time, and they were walking around registering people to vote. Now,
to do that and not and exclude the Republican there
is and exclude that. It's just so rough. It's not
that what the federal government was doing. So they spent
an untold millions of dollars doing it. They leveraged the
physical facilities and the people of the federal government, and
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it has an effect, and it still needs to be
further explored, but that was a very real scenario.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
So what is the cyber Security and Infrastructure Security Agency?
What was the original purpose and what was it repurposed
to do?
Speaker 2 (19:46):
I mean, it sounds like some we need, right, everything
from water treatment plants to you know, dams, to electrical facilities.
We have to be able to protect those, right. And
but again these things morph into something that benefits one
side politically and not the other side. And so this
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is one of those departments and agencies where again they
try to continue to dive in and grab information and
then share it and sell it.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
We've got to take a quick commercial break, but we've
got more with Jason. If you like what you're hearing,
shared on social media or maybe send it to a friend,
stay tuned. I think one thing we learned with Doge
but you didn't learn this, you've known this is how
much of like a money laundering scheme it is for
the left. Even looking at Stacey Abrams, who did she
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ever conceide losing? She probably still thinks she's you know,
got her Yeah, but I think it was like two
billion dollars right that her group received from Biden's EPA,
and like it had been around for like say months
and hadn't done anything. So like what you know tell
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us about that? And how you know tell us about
these like kind of like the web of partnerships between
the government and these NGOs and the political left.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
I think what was scary is that in twenty twenty
for the twenty twenty five budget, Remember this is at
the end of the Biden administration, even though it's you know,
back in twenty four they're asking for twenty five Remember
when the Joe Biden asked for an additional this is
additional one hundred and four billion dollars for the IRS.
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That massive weaponization of the IRS. That was eight times
it's regular annual budget. That's what they wanted to do.
It was, you know, that was one group after another
where they went after people in a in a huge,
huge way. There that's happening at the local level. They're
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giving it out from They're targeting people that are Christians.
You know, we have this example, for instance, Kamala Harris
and Senator Herono going after the Knights of Columbus judges.
These are judges who you know were part of the
Knights of Columbus were they have one point five million
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members and they just did not they would put a
religious litmus test on people. And then how they hired.
The other thing is we said, it's like how they
hired It wasn't just DEI, but like we have this
example in the book of Denver Public Schools. One of
their criteria was that they have to hire somebody who
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has an anti racist mindset. So when they plus up
all this money that goes to the Department of Education,
then it goes out there. There's some expectations that they're
going to be quote unquote hiring the right people, and
that's it's just unbelievable. I mean, there's a lot of
examples in the book on how they go after the
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education market to try to manipulate them.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Do we still have civil liberties?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yea. What we're losing is a right to privacy. And
if you don't have privacy, you've lost your ability to
have the full array of liberties at your disposal. Because
I think if you're a suspicionless American, when you walk
out your door, you shouldn't feel like you're being tracked
in your every move from the moment you get in
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your car to the time you go into the grocery
store at to the time you look on your phone
to you are building so much data at every moment.
It really is, it really is scary.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Well, I mean you look at Tolsi Gabbard, who is
placed on a watch list, yeah, right for overseas travel,
and she is i think is still a reservist in
the military.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
And she was a member of Congress, and she was
being actually was being excluded. We have examples. I think
Tom McClintock, the congressman out of California, was put into
this category. They work so hard, you know. I guess
one way Lisa to kind of described this is if
we just thought the deep state was going to roll
over and accept that Donald Trump won the election. No
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they didn't. They're not just going to roll over. They're
going to use this data and they're going to continue
to manipulate, to play the long ball game, to try
to turn and manipulate people to the point they don't
even understand. Because I think a lot of people say, eh,
I got to give up a little privacy. I don't
do anything wrong. What do I care? You know, it's
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helpful to me. And if I want to go find
my local you know, in my case place it sells cheeseburgers,
new your case, you know, let local fitness gym. I'm
willing i'd you both.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
I'm all about that once.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Good point, but yeah, that's perhaps. Let me give you
an example of something that was one of the most
nefarious things that we found. There's a it's called vote er,
and what they decided to do is this doctor created
a non government organization and they wanted to recruit doctors
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to do voter registration, and we detail us in the book.
I really like they're coming for you. I know I'm
trying to sell a book, but it's like when I
see something in all my oversight roles, I want everybody
else to see it too, because I think everybody would
be equally outright. That's why I want you to buy
the book or listen to a book. But this doctor,
Alistair Martin, he sent out an array of doctors. There
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is something like sixty five thousand text messages that was
out there to not only kill legislation, but they were
What we found is this vote er was being funded
by the Tides Foundation, the Open Society Foundation, Billing Melinda
Gates Foundation, and they ended up getting fifty thousand physicians
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in seven hundred hospitals, even people who cognitively could not
make decisions, who were mentally impaired, they took They even
targeted psychiatric patients who were considered a danger to themselves
and they got them to register to vote, and in
many cases, the allegation is helped them to vote. So
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imagine there you're on your deathbed, your doctor comes and says,
why don't you sign this form? Or have you voted yet?
I mean, it's just unbelievable. They created software to do it,
and it literally I'm just kind of reading through my
notes this thing called epic system software. Okay, the doctors
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record in your chart the status of whether or not
they voted. Nothing scary about that.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
How much did Covid accelerate sort of or march to
being more like China with all of this stuff?
Speaker 2 (27:18):
I think it personally, we didn't tackle that head on.
That's a great question, Lisa. I think for some people
like you and me, it probably made us even more
resolute that we've been lied to by our federal government
and I don't trust them. It's like I've lost almost
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thirty pounds over last year and a half, and I
sit back and look at it. I think I have
been lied to by my federal government my whole life.
I took that food pyramid seriously. If I didn't have
and I can't remember what the right number was, eleven
bowls of grains and cereals, I felt like I was
falling short, so I'd have two balls in the cereal
before I went to bed, and you know, carbs and
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bread and eat more bread. I mean that that was
the whole mission I heard my whole life. But since COVID,
since the food pyramid, since I just like, I don't
trust the federal government. I just don't touch trust them.
Now on the other side, you got people who are so, oh,
we have to do exactly what they say. They're the experts.
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And then there's the people in the middle who are like, yeah,
I'm still here. Life's good. But I think the world
is much more cognizant of their government manipulating them in
an evil way.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
No, my tinfoil hat has gone a lot bigger over they,
particularly since COVID. Then now it's massive. So well, Jason,
you've convinced me that they're coming for me, and you've
officially scared the crap out of me. But this is
really important information to get to light. So thank you
for scaring me, and thank you for sharing the audience,
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and thank you for putting in the research to get
this book together.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Well, thank you. I appreciate it, and I look forward
to seeing you Soon's not at all.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Hopefully, hopefully that won't be a part of the equation.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Lets solve that problem.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Okay, yes, for the for the audience, for the Fox audience,
and for every legs and all right, Jason shaff it's
great to have you on, my friend. I hope to
see you soon. Those Jason Shaffits my friend and colleague.
Appreciate him for coming on the show. Appreciate you guys
at home for listening every Tuesday and Thursday. But you
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can listen throughout the week until next time.
Welcome to the Truth with Lisa Booth, where we cut
through the noise to try to getst the heart of
what matters. So today I'm going to scare you. I'm
actually going to scare the crap out of you, because
they're coming for you. We're diving into a chilling expose
with former congressmen and my Fox News colleague and friend
Jason Schaffitz, who is also Oversight Chairman, about his new book,
(00:24):
They're Coming for You, how deep state spies, NGOs, and
woke corporations plan to punish you for your politics. Now,
a lot of us thought, because we won twenty twenty
four the presidential election, we won Congress, that we were
good to go, that we were safe. Well, Jason says,
not so fast. He reveals how a shadowy alliance of
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government insiders, big tech, and activist organizations that they're working
to silence US conservatives, weaponizing our institutions against US data
gathering as well, and also using the government to try
to control future elections. So we're going to dig into
some of this AI driven surveillance and manipulative algorithms that
(01:07):
he's talking about in his book and pulling the curtain
back on all these threats to our freedom and what
we can do to fight back. So buckle up for
this scary but important conversation with my friend and colleague,
Jason Shaffins. Jason Schaffits, it's great to have you on
(01:29):
the show again, my friend. Always great to be on
with you and looking forward to digging into your new book.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Well, thank you. It's always good to be with you,
and I wish show was with you in person. But
this is the next best thing.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
It is the next best thing. So I didn't really
so you were a three time New York Times bestselling author. Yeah,
I can't. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I never thought i'd write a book, and this is
my fifth book. And I love this one though, because
you know, it takes a long time. It took year
and a half, almost two years to put this together.
It's got four hundred and fifty footnotes. But you know
that's why it makes it a book worth reading.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I hope, and obviously I meant that you're very, very intelligent.
You've served in Congress, we've worked together.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
In numerous wait alone, three times is a lot, though,
That's like, that's really impressive.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I didn't realize that that's the big deal. You're kind
of a big deal, Jason.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Let's all understand that you shouldn't say, well, you're intelligent
and you're in Congress. That does not usually flow in
one sentence together.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
And those two things don't always overlap with you. They
do so.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Well, thank you. I served there for eight and a
half years, and there are a lot of idiots there.
I can tell you that I have no doubt I
could prove my thesis on that one.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
If you had to give a percentage, what percentage are idiots?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
It's like a third to third? A third is the
way I know it really is. You got a third
of people who who work hard, they work smart, they're
there for all the right reasons. They're not out carousing,
you know. Just then you got another third of them
that are out there and they just they're in the power.
They just want the power, but they couldn't tell you
policy to save their lives. And then the other third
(03:16):
they're just kind of I have nothing else to do,
you know, I got elected and I'm still here, and
by golly, it's kind of fun to wear this pin.
But they're just like doing nothing. And it's so true,
like there's this story and I was told this before
I got to Congress, and it's so true. When you
get there, you're about six months in and every day
(03:38):
you walk on the floor and you think, how did
I get here? This is unbelievable, Like this amazing what's
going on here? But about six months in, Lisa, you
look around and you start to say, now, how did
they all get here? Because did anybody ever meet this person?
They're an idiot?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Well, well I think that we have, you know, like
Jasmine Crockett comes to mind, you know, a there are
some that just sort of immediately pop up in the
thut bubble. But so your book is scary, Jason. They're
coming for you. How the deep state spies NGOs and
what corporations plan to punish you for your politics. This
is a scary book. So thanks a lot for scaring us.
(04:18):
But so we think we win the twenty twenty four election,
which we did, thank god, and so we finally breathed
a sigh of relief that you know, the country is
turning back the common sense that you know we won,
but you say, not so fast, that Democrats are still
working behind the scenes. Walk us through that, and why
(04:39):
even though you know it's nice to be in power.
Why we're not necessarily fully empower.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Well, I think what happened was particularly like my frame
of reference is Barack Obama. I was elected at the
same time as he was. But I think what the Democrats,
particularly Obama, had figured out is that legislating and changing
things was really hard. It's really difficult, and it wasn't
popular with the American people. And so what they did
is they just loaded up the piggy bank and started
(05:08):
flushing all this money to these corporations and to these
Deep States buys and to these NGOs, non government organizations,
and then they could do what the government couldn't do.
And that's what Doge was all about. Right. Doze went
in by the hundreds of billions of dollars and identified
(05:29):
the waste that was going out the door and how
it was funding these groups for nefarious activities that weren't
conducive to what Congress and the President and others had
laid out, and if they were exposed, they would be
wildly unpopular, if not illegal. So and then what my
(05:51):
book really cut up, so think elon and think of
all the money. Okay they're coming for you really dives
deep into the data, because that's what it scares me,
is they have so much data about what you're doing
and how you're doing it. So like you'll go online
and you're happy to trade. You know, hey you can
follow me, or I'll follow your app and you know, yeah,
(06:13):
you'll send me ads and you can. It's much much
deeper than that. The government is buying and selling your
data and it I mean, there's so much to this.
That's why I had to write a book. Because the
data that is flowing never goes away, and they can
use that to manipulate you in such a way. Even
(06:35):
in this It literally in the last twenty four hours,
the Federal Reserve said that they're going to stop for
the remarkably, they're going to stop profiling people based on
their political persuasion to defend, to determine what kind of
credit score you should get. I mean, it's that detailed,
(06:56):
and it's it is very scary when you dive in
deep in under the hood well.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
And in particularly when you look at something like the
RS Right, which has come under a scrutiny numerous times,
you know, particularly during the Obobbe years and the targeting
of the Tea Party. How was the r r S
or the I R S weaponizing like artificial intelligence and
monitoring us for political beliefs.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I mean what I was in Congress, we did hearings.
They had what were called stingrays, stingrays and simulated cell
phone tower and they had a couple of these, like
why would you need more than one? You're the I
R S. And what they're doing is they're building a
profile so they can literally either on an airplane or
in a vehicle and any they'll capture all of the
(07:42):
data of all the phones that are within this certain radius,
and that'll tell you a lot about what's going on.
Who's that protest, Maybe who's going to cancer clinic, Maybe
who's going to an AA meeting. Maybe you don't know,
And that's the point. But they keep filling the bucket,
(08:04):
and they combine this with facial recognition, and so we
detail the companies and the organizations and then we tie
it back to what, for instance, the FBI was doing.
And I actually held the hearing about this when I
was in Congress, but I didn't see the fuller picture
of how they were traversing this chasm that they would
(08:24):
never be able to do legally. So for instance, Lisa Booth,
I want to go dive deeper and find out something
about you, Well you'd have to go get a warrant.
But they bypass all of that by tapping into private
companies who own all the data about Lisa Booth. But
it gets worse than that because the government, for instance,
(08:45):
there are states out there like Florida where in the
past they have when you go to get your driver's license,
think of all your information, name data, birth, hair, color, weight, height,
all of that. Do you wear glasses, not wear glasses,
and they sell that to a data broker and they
(09:05):
make money from it.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
So like, what what do they want to do with
that data?
Speaker 2 (09:10):
So it's what they've done started to do the nefarious
left the Democrats are doing. You know, there's a there's
a part of the book that says, this is how
they deal with it in China, Okay, and that's where
we're coming to here. I think there's seven hundred million
CCTV cameras in China. Every time you move somewhere, and
(09:32):
they're checking your gate, they're checking your eyes, they're checking
your face, and they want to be able to see
where you are, what you're doing. And the worst part
about it is they then want to limit where you're going,
what you're doing, so what rates you pay for insurance,
whether or not you can get healthcare insurance, whether you
(09:52):
are more appt to do this or that. And the
D banking is very real. I mean they even went
after Milania and Baron Trump and said no, so like
if we found out that Lisa Booth was a gun owner,
I am well, remember you had Operation choke Point with
(10:12):
Barack Obama. And if you and there are key words
if you search the word Cabbella's or Dick's sporting goods
or Constitution, you know there were other key words like
if you were a MAGA pro American, love your country,
love the flag. You are on a highlight list where
(10:35):
you may not pass your credit score, you may not
be able to get alone, you may not galle to
get into college. You may not be able to and
that is happening in real time. Even the Federal Reserve
was involved and engaged in this. But the D banking
and not allowing you to participate in the public square
or pay higher rates is just so fundamentally wrong.
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Speaker 1 (12:13):
How much of President Trump winning slows that down? Or
is that just or inevitable future? Like, is it possible
to put the genie back in the bottle or is
the you know, is the genie out well?
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I think Donald Trump certainly slows it down. I think
people recognize that conservatives are catching up to it. But
the data that is out there already, particularly for a
young person, like we detail in large part, like you
have kids that go to these schools and you think, oh, hey,
(12:46):
Google will just give you a computer. How nice? Isn't
that nice that Johnny has a computer? Well, guests, who
gets to keep all that data? I mean in California,
they're spending a lot of money for what are called
commute to the schools, and they're they're collecting everything they
want you soup to nuts, start the bottom, where you
(13:07):
get your haircut, who cuts your hair, what style of haircut?
I mean, all of that is captured into this data profile,
and we it's hard to put it back in the
genie back in the bottle. We go into what goes
on in your automobile. You may think, you know, basically
automobiles today are rolling computers and the amount of data
(13:31):
that is collected about you, your habits and what you're
doing is going to be used against you, and it
shouldn't be. It should be you should have a basic
right of privacy. Trump understands that, but ooh, it's it's
getting to be a scary, scary world when you combine
in deep fakes, artificial intelligence, all of those types of things.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Finds a lot of sinus issues right now. So that
would be fun information because I just had a sinus procedure.
Doing is basically find a I've been able to breathe
for two months. So it's like it's like a lot
about snot really fun things. I hope they're enjoying collecting that. Uh, Lisa,
both exactly why can't I breathe? Hopefully?
Speaker 2 (14:18):
But yeah, let me give you another example that climate
groups really went after meat and dairy. They they believed
that cows create flatulence in the flatulence is just destroying
the earth. They don't want cows to even be on
the planet, let alone.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Can't fart in piece exactly that.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
You're snot reminded me of this so well. What they
did is they had one hundred and five groups signing
this letter because they were starting to be debated, and
how do you participate in today's community, electronic community with
transferring to funds, using a credit card, even right a
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check if you can't have a banking relationship. I mean,
they so they go after that. So they've been going
after a meet and dairy. They go after Trump supporters,
they go after firearms, they've gone after Christians. They certainly
went after, you know, January sixth, anything that might have
a reputational risk was what the Federal reserve. Although they're
(15:23):
starting to back off again. I don't think that happens
without without the Trump And it's it's pretty scary how
many times they do that, Like how.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Early does this information gathering begin? Is it like with
kids as well? Or you know, what can you tell
us about that?
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah, as soon as you're as soon as you're born,
there's a record. But you know, in America, we don't
collect your DNA, we don't collect your fingerprints. You know,
it'll be easy enough to do, but you're supposed to,
as a suspicionless American be able to have this right
to privacy. This bypasses all of that and just negates it.
(16:03):
And the government could never do it by itself. That's
why they send out the money. That's why they sell
the data. They sell the data, then they buy it.
And that's what your today, your law enforcement and your
regulatory bodies are doing at the federal and state level.
And that in the moment you start as a kid
in some schools they give you a quote unquote free computer.
(16:25):
But the real question is who collects all that data?
Because it's not only what you're typing into your computer.
You also have video chat, and you have pictures, and
you have all of that is being scraped. So we
talk about this company. I'm not saying they did anything illegally,
but Clearview AI has tens of billions of photos. So
(16:50):
if you sign up for Venmo, if you sign up
for Instagram, if you're on Snapchat, if you're on name
your social media or name somewhere, you put your picture
out on the internet. They're scraping that to build your
profile and then they're matching that.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
And there are.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
People out there. We go out to the absurd people
think it can tell whether you're gay or straight, and
they'll be like eighty to ninety percent correct, just based
on a variety of factors. And then they'll they have
who's of certain political persuasions. And so then you look
at what the government does with that, and we talk
(17:27):
about Executive Order one for zero one nine. This is
what Joe Biden did where they directed the federal government
to help register to get people to vote, and they
took these profiles to get so that they're almost all Democrats.
That's how they turned out the vote using your federal
taxpayer dollars.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Yeah, so talk about that, the Executive Order fourteen zero
one to nine and voter mobilization, you know, kind of
walk us through how Democrats turned some of these federal
agencies into the voter mobilization tools for themselves.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah. What they did was literally days after Joe Biden
was sworn in he put out this executive order, they
had a meeting. In fact, the first chapter, first thing
we talk about is this meeting, and they brought it
in these outside groups and they started talking about key
buzzwords that nobody would disagree with. You know, we want
everybody to vote, we wanted people to have access to voting.
(18:23):
But what they did was much more nefarious, and we
lay this out in detail in this They're Coming for
U book. Because they they took housing and urban development.
They took the Department of Commerce, for instance, and they
were in the Small Business Administration. Really bad examples that
(18:45):
we highlight in Michigan where they didn't go into neutral
you know, they went into areas with a high propensity
of voters that are most likely to vote for Democrats.
And that's where they add these these changes and these
affairs and these and they were taking government employees on
(19:07):
government time, and they were walking around registering people to vote. Now,
to do that and not and exclude the Republican there
is and exclude that. It's just so rough. It's not
that what the federal government was doing. So they spent
an untold millions of dollars doing it. They leveraged the
physical facilities and the people of the federal government, and
(19:30):
it has an effect, and it still needs to be
further explored, but that was a very real scenario.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
So what is the cyber Security and Infrastructure Security Agency?
What was the original purpose and what was it repurposed
to do?
Speaker 2 (19:46):
I mean, it sounds like some we need, right, everything
from water treatment plants to you know, dams, to electrical facilities.
We have to be able to protect those, right. And
but again these things morph into something that benefits one
side politically and not the other side. And so this
(20:10):
is one of those departments and agencies where again they
try to continue to dive in and grab information and
then share it and sell it.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
We've got to take a quick commercial break, but we've
got more with Jason. If you like what you're hearing,
shared on social media or maybe send it to a friend,
stay tuned. I think one thing we learned with Doge
but you didn't learn this, you've known this is how
much of like a money laundering scheme it is for
the left. Even looking at Stacey Abrams, who did she
(20:42):
ever conceide losing? She probably still thinks she's you know,
got her Yeah, but I think it was like two
billion dollars right that her group received from Biden's EPA,
and like it had been around for like say months
and hadn't done anything. So like what you know tell
(21:03):
us about that? And how you know tell us about
these like kind of like the web of partnerships between
the government and these NGOs and the political left.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
I think what was scary is that in twenty twenty
for the twenty twenty five budget, Remember this is at
the end of the Biden administration, even though it's you know,
back in twenty four they're asking for twenty five Remember
when the Joe Biden asked for an additional this is
additional one hundred and four billion dollars for the IRS.
(21:34):
That massive weaponization of the IRS. That was eight times
it's regular annual budget. That's what they wanted to do.
It was, you know, that was one group after another
where they went after people in a in a huge,
huge way. There that's happening at the local level. They're
(21:56):
giving it out from They're targeting people that are Christians.
You know, we have this example, for instance, Kamala Harris
and Senator Herono going after the Knights of Columbus judges.
These are judges who you know were part of the
Knights of Columbus were they have one point five million
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members and they just did not they would put a
religious litmus test on people. And then how they hired.
The other thing is we said, it's like how they
hired It wasn't just DEI, but like we have this
example in the book of Denver Public Schools. One of
their criteria was that they have to hire somebody who
(22:40):
has an anti racist mindset. So when they plus up
all this money that goes to the Department of Education,
then it goes out there. There's some expectations that they're
going to be quote unquote hiring the right people, and
that's it's just unbelievable. I mean, there's a lot of
examples in the book on how they go after the
(23:02):
education market to try to manipulate them.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Do we still have civil liberties?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yea. What we're losing is a right to privacy. And
if you don't have privacy, you've lost your ability to
have the full array of liberties at your disposal. Because
I think if you're a suspicionless American, when you walk
out your door, you shouldn't feel like you're being tracked
in your every move from the moment you get in
(23:30):
your car to the time you go into the grocery
store at to the time you look on your phone
to you are building so much data at every moment.
It really is, it really is scary.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Well, I mean you look at Tolsi Gabbard, who is
placed on a watch list, yeah, right for overseas travel,
and she is i think is still a reservist in
the military.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
And she was a member of Congress, and she was
being actually was being excluded. We have examples. I think
Tom McClintock, the congressman out of California, was put into
this category. They work so hard, you know. I guess
one way Lisa to kind of described this is if
we just thought the deep state was going to roll
over and accept that Donald Trump won the election. No
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they didn't. They're not just going to roll over. They're
going to use this data and they're going to continue
to manipulate, to play the long ball game, to try
to turn and manipulate people to the point they don't
even understand. Because I think a lot of people say, eh,
I got to give up a little privacy. I don't
do anything wrong. What do I care? You know, it's
(24:41):
helpful to me. And if I want to go find
my local you know, in my case place it sells cheeseburgers,
new your case, you know, let local fitness gym. I'm
willing i'd you both.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
I'm all about that once.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Good point, but yeah, that's perhaps. Let me give you
an example of something that was one of the most
nefarious things that we found. There's a it's called vote er,
and what they decided to do is this doctor created
a non government organization and they wanted to recruit doctors
(25:21):
to do voter registration, and we detail us in the book.
I really like they're coming for you. I know I'm
trying to sell a book, but it's like when I
see something in all my oversight roles, I want everybody
else to see it too, because I think everybody would
be equally outright. That's why I want you to buy
the book or listen to a book. But this doctor,
Alistair Martin, he sent out an array of doctors. There
(25:49):
is something like sixty five thousand text messages that was
out there to not only kill legislation, but they were
What we found is this vote er was being funded
by the Tides Foundation, the Open Society Foundation, Billing Melinda
Gates Foundation, and they ended up getting fifty thousand physicians
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in seven hundred hospitals, even people who cognitively could not
make decisions, who were mentally impaired, they took They even
targeted psychiatric patients who were considered a danger to themselves
and they got them to register to vote, and in
many cases, the allegation is helped them to vote. So
(26:36):
imagine there you're on your deathbed, your doctor comes and says,
why don't you sign this form? Or have you voted yet?
I mean, it's just unbelievable. They created software to do it,
and it literally I'm just kind of reading through my
notes this thing called epic system software. Okay, the doctors
(26:58):
record in your chart the status of whether or not
they voted. Nothing scary about that.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
How much did Covid accelerate sort of or march to
being more like China with all of this stuff?
Speaker 2 (27:18):
I think it personally, we didn't tackle that head on.
That's a great question, Lisa. I think for some people
like you and me, it probably made us even more
resolute that we've been lied to by our federal government
and I don't trust them. It's like I've lost almost
(27:40):
thirty pounds over last year and a half, and I
sit back and look at it. I think I have
been lied to by my federal government my whole life.
I took that food pyramid seriously. If I didn't have
and I can't remember what the right number was, eleven
bowls of grains and cereals, I felt like I was
falling short, so I'd have two balls in the cereal
before I went to bed, and you know, carbs and
(28:02):
bread and eat more bread. I mean that that was
the whole mission I heard my whole life. But since COVID,
since the food pyramid, since I just like, I don't
trust the federal government. I just don't touch trust them.
Now on the other side, you got people who are so, oh,
we have to do exactly what they say. They're the experts.
(28:22):
And then there's the people in the middle who are like, yeah,
I'm still here. Life's good. But I think the world
is much more cognizant of their government manipulating them in
an evil way.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
No, my tinfoil hat has gone a lot bigger over they,
particularly since COVID. Then now it's massive. So well, Jason,
you've convinced me that they're coming for me, and you've
officially scared the crap out of me. But this is
really important information to get to light. So thank you
for scaring me, and thank you for sharing the audience,
(29:00):
and thank you for putting in the research to get
this book together.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Well, thank you. I appreciate it, and I look forward
to seeing you Soon's not at all.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Hopefully, hopefully that won't be a part of the equation.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Lets solve that problem.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Okay, yes, for the for the audience, for the Fox audience,
and for every legs and all right, Jason shaff it's
great to have you on, my friend. I hope to
see you soon. Those Jason Shaffits my friend and colleague.
Appreciate him for coming on the show. Appreciate you guys
at home for listening every Tuesday and Thursday. But you
(29:36):
can listen throughout the week until next time.
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