December 2, 2024 • 36 mins
In this episode, Lisa welcomes Lindy Li on to discuss the Democratic Party's reaction to Donald Trump's Presidential Election win, Joe Biden's pardon of Hunter Biden, and the party's overall direction. Lindy, a Democratic National Committee finance committee member, criticizes the party's leadership and strategies, expressing concerns about Kamala Harris's campaign management and the party's focus on divisive issues. She argues for greater accountability and introspection within the party, highlighting a disconnect between the party's positions and public sentiment. The Truth with Lisa Boothe is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network - new episodes debut every Monday & Thursday.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Typically after a party suffers big electoral losses, there's some
soul searching, there's some figuring out of why.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Did we lose? What went wrong for us?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
There's a desire to try to reach to some sort
of conclusions you don't make those same mistakes in the future.
Doesn't appear that the bulk of the Democrat Party has
done that, that they refuse to see the election for
what it was. I mean, you know, for instance, you
still see the doubling down that somehow men can play
in women's sports or men can be women, despite the
fact that the vast, vast majority of Americans disagree at
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that point of view, and then they wonder why they
lost by taking positions that only a small percentage of
Americans agree with. Today, we're going to talk to someone
who has been refreshingly honest. She's a Democrat who's been
refreshingly honest about why Democrats lost, about expressing her concerns.
She was appointed by Pennsylvania Governor jos Shapiro as a
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Commissioner of Pennsylvania. She also serves the Democrat National Committee's
National Far Finance Committee. So she raised money for Kamala
Harras as well as for Democrats. But she's been rerofessionally
honest about her concerns over Kamala Harra is blowing through
all that money, the state of the Democrat Party, and
even perhaps has been thinking about leaving the Democrat Party.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
So we're going to get her perspective on all of that.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
We're also going to get her perspective on this sweeping,
sweeping parden that Joe Biden just did for his son Hunter,
spanning from January one, twenty fourteen, to December one, twenty
twenty four even outside of the timeline of the tax
charges that Hunter is facing, outside of the timeline of
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the gun charges that Hunter is facing, and also stemming
back to twenty fourteen when he first sat on the
board of Barisma, So why did he do that? What
is he hiding? What else is Hunter being protected from?
This pardon is the most sweeping in American history.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Her name is Linda Lee.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
You've probably seen her on Fox and you know, talking
making the rounds, talking to people about what we're wrong
for Democrats and her perspective on the current Democrat Party.
So all that more with Lindy, stay tuned.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Well, Lindy, it's great to have you on you.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
I've been seeing you on the news, and I know
you've been very honest about sort of your thoughts from
the election. So I'm looking forward to digging into all
of it. There's obviously a lot going on, a lot
to discuss. I appreciate you making the time.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Oh, I'm so honored to be here with you, Lidsa.
You're a superstar and it's just it's a joy to
be with you. I love seeing you rocket on TV.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Well, I really appreciate that. But doing it for a while,
so it's you know, but it's.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Been busy, but that's good though in this business. I
wanted to ask you obviously, I want to get to Kamala.
There's a lot to unpack there about the election and
what went wrong. But I wanted to first start out
with Joe Biden's pardon. Oh boy, Well, what's strange about
is it extends from January first, twenty fourteen to December exactly. Yeah,
and that's well years and it's well beyond his tax
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and gun charges period. So why this broad of a pardon?
What else is Hunter Biden guilty of?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Yeah, that's a really good question. First, that was kind
of sympathetic to the whole thing because this is the
aged father and it's only surviving some But then I
actually read the pardon and it is damning. It is
eleven years. It is as you said, it's way beyond
the scope of his initial charges in Delaware, in California.
So what else is going on here? And I think
the next one to look out for is actually James Biden.
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Is he going to pardon his brother as well? And
bear in mind that the eleven years covers Hunter's time
at Breizemath, it also Biden's potential involvement. So is this
an act of self preservation in addition to love? All
these questions are going across my mind. You know, this
is just not the This is a black eye to
his legacy, which is already in tatters following the loss.
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So this is not great.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Well, you know, and that's what we were discussing. You know,
I was on Fox last night and we were covering
the breaking news and that was you know, questions we
were asking some of the guests we had, and that
was one of the things that was mentioned about, you know,
about this potentially could shield Joe Biden from some of
the roads leading to him, because we've seen previously where
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these irs whistleblowers have stepped forward and said that they
were thwarted in any sort of investigative attempts looking into Barisma.
That we also saw federal the Department of Justice allowed
the lapse of the Barisma charges so that it would
be outside of the statute of limitations, and that they
were told they were also thwarted in any sort of
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roads that would lead to Joe Biden. So you know
how much of this is self preservation? You know, is
this is this pardon for Hunter Biden or is it
for Joe Biden?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
We know increasingly. I think we know now that the
Biden family is like a clan. They were all in
business together, even the grandkids benefited from it. So I
think it was actually both. It was, you know, killing
tubirds on stone, and I just feel like the whole thing,
it just makes it so much worse because he lied.
(05:06):
Let's just not let's not miss any words about what
happened here. Okay, he said time and time again he
lied to the American people. Not only did he lie,
he lied after the election when Kamo is no longer
on the ballot and he was in candidate either, So
that was totally unforced area. He didn't have to lie
at that point. He could have said, oh, I'm looking
into it whatever, and then he had his he had
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his Tokyo Rose Koreem job Pierre go out and lie
for him too. So this is just not a good
look all around. And Democrats say that they claim the
moral high ground, but how could they possibly do so
when something like this happens.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Well, you know it also I think raises and gives
gives validity to the concerns about you know, Joe Biden
being the beneficiary of Hunters were you know, as vice
president righta, you know, the ten for the big guy,
you know, the flying Hunter on air force to to
you know, China and then shaking hands of business leaders
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and then somehow, you know, a Hunter gets these deals
that he's been working on, you know, just the degreasing
of the wheels, the allowing Hunter to leverage Joe's position
as vice president to make money.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
It just it gives more validity to you.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Know, that line of concern and also the concern that
you know, Joe Biden leveraged his position of power to
enrich his family.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Yeah, and now that he's going out of power. I'm
just wondering if publications that have been covering up for
him up until now, will you know, take another look.
And you know, since I used to be a regular
on MSNBC and CNN, no one has had me on
since I started criticizing Kamala Hair. So this just makes
me wonder, like, what is going on here? I'm experiencing
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that personally, So I wouldn't be surprised at all if
publications just don't want to run that stuff in order
to protect them now that he's out of he's going
out of office, maybe you know, the gloves of laws
and same goes with I can't believe him saying this,
but like the allegations about Doug Emhoff, did Fox report
about it, CNN, MSNBC certainly didn't.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah, we reported about it, well, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
And two it's I mean, we all saw Joe Biden
on camera bragging about threatening to you know, withhold money
and to get the prosecutor general haired in Ukraine who
was investigating Bresma holdings. We were told that no, that
was because there was corruption there, he was doing the
right thing.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
And then now this really is certainly.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
You know, This gives more validity again to the fact
that no, he was actually just trying to get the
guy fired who was investigating his son and potentially him
as well. And then remember, you know, Donald Trump was
impeached over asking President Zelenski about Joe Biden and Hunter
Biden's business dealings in Ukraine as well. So there's a
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lot of different layers, which I'm sure you know will
continue to get to on this story. But I want
to ask, I think the point of frustration for Republicans.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Is not of not understanding.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
It's not of pardoning your son, because I think most
people could kind of understand, you know, see how a
president would do that.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
It's it's the line. And then it's also the continued.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Lectures we were on the other end of yeah, Bo
Biden saying no one is sermonizing all the threats to democracy,
and then they install a candidate who didn't receive a
single primary vote or you.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Know, or no one's above the law.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
But then you pardon your son from you know, January first,
twenty fourteen to December first, twenty twenty four the.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Very years that the Laptop from Hell most and it
just yeah, and it just raises the question of you know,
the Democrat Party is not any of the things they
tell us they stand for.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
So I guess what is today's Democrat Party stand for?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Hey, Lisa, I wish I could tell you. I'm in
the middle of a tussle with the Democratic Party, So
I wish I could tell you. Man, I'm an environmentalist.
I alluded to this earlier, but this is the primary issue.
I just feel like the Republican Party isn't as strong
as it could be on you know, environmental issues. I
It's just something that's dear to my heart. But if
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this issue, if Trump can get on board with this,
I would seriously consider switching parties at this point. So
I wish I could tell you, because frankly, we just
experienced a two billion dollar boondoggle. It was an utter disaster,
and a lot of donors they don't want to do
what I'm doing, and you know, say it publicly, but
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you better believe that I have dozens of people that
I'm in touch with constantly, people who are just extremely
upset at the direction that the party is heading in.
We are pretty much resigned to the fact that we're
going to be in the wilderness for forty eight years,
if not more.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Well, I think you should look into you know, look,
I live in the state of Florida, and so most
of tourism stems from or be beaches, stems from, you know,
the beauty of the state, and so we are very
into conserving that and protecting our waters and protecting our
lands and protecting our beaches.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
So I think you can protect the environment.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
What we don't support is things like the Paris Climate
Accord and uh, bankrupting or nation while you know, countries
like China and you know, India build coal coal manufacturers,
you know, and and and while we uh, you know,
bankrupt our country and the process of meeting some goals
(10:32):
that a Paris Climate Accord type agreement will never reach
us to all, while we were reduced for carbon emissions
by just the you know, the private sector and innovation
as well. So I don't, you know, I would just
look into that a little bit further.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Let's talk more. Yeah, I had this conversation with Jesse
Waters too, and yeah, a lot of people are getting
my ear about that. But you and I see. My
point is you and I see to eye on I
mean more than you probably know. And so I just
I'm very frustrated at the state of I mean the
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party real large right now. I just we were basically headless.
We've basically been decapitated. We pushed our president aside and
he's not at his prime. Let's just say it. Let's
just put.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
It that way.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
And our vice president just received a shellacking and our
DNC chair is leaving in a cloud of I don't
have no other word but disgrace. I mean, give them
what happened. So we don't really have a leader right now.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
You know, look, I've I've worked in politics for a
long time. You have as well.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
We see after a party loses big time, right like
if you get sweep during the midterms, you know, you
lose the presidential cycle, there's a lot of introspection. There's
a lot of what do we do wrong? You know,
soul searching. I guess you know, one, do you think
Democrats are doing that? And then you know two, there's
been a lot of names floated around, whether it's you know,
Gavin Newsom or aoc Oh my god, help us lord.
(12:07):
I guess one, do you think the party is doing
the proper soul searching? And then two, you know, who
do you potentially see as taking up the mantle of
the Democrat Party.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Well, I mean not AOC. That would just be I
mean devastating for the party and great for Republicans. So
maybe yes, AOC. But yeah, this has just been I've
been trying to make sure that people learn the right lessons,
but people are attacking me. Okay, this is me trying
to shore up the party and make the party stronger.
(12:43):
But they are not willing to listen to anyone who's
not saying the entire country is racist and bigoted and sexist.
They are blaming Kamala's loss on sexism and racism. Okay,
sure there's some of that, but that's not the primary reason.
They don't want to take any accountability at all. It's
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just the same, you know, it's the same woke narrative
that it all comes down to race and sex, and
she was this amazing candidate who ran this flawless campaign.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I mean, come on, We've got more with Lindy.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
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Democrats are so fixated with race? Because I can tell
you I've been to you know, Trump rallies. I was
at the Convention Center on election night and you see
people of every single background. You could ever imagine. You
see every different race, every different religion, men, women, you
see people who you know maybe come from lower incomes,
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higher income. You see it all, and everyone just comes
together in support and love of our country. And you know,
like the right's not fixated on that. We're fixated on
things of commonality, Like we're fixated on building a stronger country,
like literally just making America great again. We're focused on
wanting to achieve the American dream. And you look at
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the left. Instead of issues that unite us, they're focused
on all these issues of division.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
So why is that. Yeah, it's just it's such.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
A shame and speaking of the American dream. I feel
like my family is embodiment of that. English is my
second language. We escaped communists China and went to England
and then came here. So like, if you want to
talk about the American dream, I like a lot of
what you're saying resonates with me. I totally get it.
And that's why you saw I think it was a
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shift in Nevada amongst Asian American voters. A lot of
them feel the same way I do. They've shifted towards Trump.
They don't want the woke stuff. They just don't want
the insanity. They just don't want They just don't want it.
And now it's a crime to say that you don't
want men in girls' bathrooms. Like if I were to
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say that on air, I get ston't, I get tarred
and feathered. So I've taken to actually quoting Seth Molton.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
I said, yeah, his name propped in my head as
he I was like, well, you could ask Steth molt Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
I try to.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
I try to erect a buffer around myself by saying,
well Seth Walton said this, I, you know, instead of
saying it directly. But it's just like insane that I can't.
I don't feel comfortable saying that because somebody they're gonna
attack me, but they attacked me.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
I'm sorry, they'll go ahead, go ahead, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
I was just about to say, you know, I received
so much hate for saying Kamala's campaign was a two
billion dollars or one billion dollar disaster. It's actually two
I gave them. I forgot to mention the superback, So actually,
if you want to be entirely accurate, it was two
point one because the super pac raised about one billion
and the campaign itself raised about one point five I mean, well,
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the numbers, it's it's hard to pinpoint its actually how
much until December fifth when the reports come out, but
the estimate is anywhere from two point one to two
point five billion dollars raise. I received so much hate
for pointing out the obvious. They just don't want to
hear it.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Yeah, because I guess what.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I don't understand is that, you know, the the Democrat
Party will tell us that men can be women, men
should plan women's sports, but then the vast majority of
Americans disagree with that point of view. I mean, you
have you know, upwards of seventy percent or higher Americans
do not believe men should plan women's sports. So they
take a position that is wildly outside of the mainstream
and then wonder why they lost an election. And it's like,
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it's pretty obvious and it's common sense. You know, I
wanted to ask you, so, at one point, you did
support Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
You know, why did you support her then?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
And then now after the election, what's your viewpoint of her?
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I honestly, so, I've been thinking a lot about this
question over the last couple of weeks. Given what happened,
and I realized now that I didn't see an alternative
because this is just how I don't know how is
Can you think of another word that's softer than indoctrinated?
Because when I went to college, it was just the
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way I kind of like, I was sixteen when I
got to college, and that was the year that Obama
was elected. So I kind of fell into that fervor.
You know, do you remember that energy? You know a
lot of college kids were really excited, and I kind
of just like fell into it, yeah, exactly, And that
was just my reality. I did not think there was
an alternative. And I went to Princeville. There was like
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there were no conservatives. I think there were one or
two and they were shamed for it. So for me,
I didn't think there was I really, I know this
probably sounds crazy to you, but I didn't think there
was an alternative. I just didn't. This is just my life,
you know. And I lived in Philadelphia. Come on, like Philadelphia,
so like I didn't, you know, I've been in Pennsylvania
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all my life. I just didn't. I never experienced an alternative.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
No, I mean that makes sense to me.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
I'm not I'm not gonna shame for you that by
by any means, you know, post election and post election lost,
has your view of Trump changed?
Speaker 3 (19:10):
It has. Yeah, I'm a little scared by how much
it's changed. And I feel like if he and I,
if I ever had the privilege of having conversation with him,
I think he and I would probably get along and
probably have a laugh.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
You would love him. He's actually like, I.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Feel like you would just you know, laugh over the
same things. I understand him. I yeah, And I've watched
a lot of the videos that his own granddaughter put
out about him. I think, what's her name, it's's daughter.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
She's like, yep, yeah, she's adorable.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Yeah, And it just it really just put my view
of him in a new light. It just And also
I also I feel liberated for the first time in decades,
probably I'm thirty three. Now I'm finally me. I feel
like I've always had to pretend that I'm okay with
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all the woke stuff. I'm not okay with the woke stuff.
I'm just gonna stay right here. It makes me deeply uncomfortable,
and it used to be criminal to say that, But
now I can just say that you know, saying stuff
is back, you know what I mean, saying stuff without
getting canceled. I've gotten canceled so many times. Why now
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just for like saying random stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I guess what does it tell you then?
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Because you know, clearly, I think a lot of Americans
and we saw it, right, we saw Rfk Junior get
on board with Donald Trump. Well, we saw Nicole Shanahan
get on board with Donald Trump. We saw Tolcy Gabbard
get on board with Donald Trump. We've saw Joe Rogan
get on board with Donald Trump. Elon Musk, you know,
you're saying that you are feeling like you're you're potentially
getting on board.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
So we've seen all these democrats.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
It's like this veil has been you know, lifted and
sort of seeing him in a different light. So I
guess what does that tell us about the media system
today and the left's ability to indoctrinate so many Americans
to really look at this man as you know, this
evil guy. And then now I think a lot of
people are waking up to being like, oh, actually, like
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you know, he seems pretty cool or you know, I
kind of agree with him on a lot of things,
like why why did I hate him so much. But
that's pretty scary that people were driven to that point
by the media and by the left.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
So I guess what did I tell you about that?
Speaker 1 (21:25):
And I guess the state of the country that so
many people were able to be pushed in that direction
by this powerful media and the Democrat Party.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Yeah, that's so interesting. And I think one need only
look at what's happening with comcasts and spin Co and
how they're trying to get rid of MSNBC and also CNN.
The ratings have just plunged. I think MSNBC has lost
fifty percent of his leadership since selection day and Fox
has searched. So I think people are waking up to that.
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Just to the gas flighting and also Joe and Mika
saying that using extremist language like about how Trump is
Trump is Hitler and then going down to mar A
Lago to consider ring. I mean, the hypocrisy is just dripping.
It's just awful, you know. I It's just it just
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doesn't look it just it just people are waking up
to the fact that you can't say that he was
Hitler one day and then just all of a sudden,
things aren't that bad, you know what I mean? It
just like which one is it? It can't be both
can't be true.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
You're right.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
That's the thing is that if this guy is Hitler,
you wouldn't be you wouldn't be traveling to sit down
with him. Or if this guy's Hitler, Joe Biden wouldn't
be inviting him to the White House for you know,
two plus hours or whatever it was. So it's like,
but then to call someone hitler is such an inflammatory
and dangerous and damning thing to call someone.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Yeah, but I feel like the left is called Look,
the left has called so many people hitler at this
point that is almost lost its emphasis. You know, it's
loss its meaning. Same with you. They throw out racists,
they call everyone racist and sexist and anti semitic. You know,
when you overuse terms like that, they lose their meeting.
So it's like the boy who cried Wolf. They keep
on call, they keep on crying racist, so no one
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really pays attention anymore.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
You know, we've got more with Lindy.
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Do you think does Kamala Harris well? One, I have
to imagine you know, especially from you being on the
money side, of it. It'd be hard for her. I
don't do you think people would donate to her again? Like,
what does her political future look like?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Do you think at this point?
Speaker 3 (24:47):
That's such a good question. And I've discussed this with
many donors and other stakeholders in the last couple weeks.
Do you think she's done again? You know, anything is
possible in life, so but we think she's done. So
she's thinking about running for governor in twenty twenty four.
What people don't realize is that she would be running
against one of her closest friends, Lieutenant Governor LENNI sorry,
(25:10):
I'm gonna spare me from having the crowns realized name.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
You could just say really fast, that's what I do.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
No, it's actually it's a very long Lieutenant governor.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
That's all people, we're tired this morning.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
It's fine, Thanks for everyone's compassion. So anyway, she is
the cousin of Kamala Harris's finance chair, Christian Faust, so
they're like thick as thieves. They're very close. So the
question is if she's in the LG. The Lieutenant governor
is the current front runner and the gubernatorial race, so
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if she were to run for governor in twenty twenty six,
she would basically have just to have her friend in
the back. So the question is is she going to
allow her addition to Trump friendship? Knowing her, I would
say yes, But also, she wants to be president and
the turnaround in time is basically impossible because that's twenty
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twenty eight versus twenty twenty six, and being governor California
is actually a real job, so she needs to do it.
So she's in a rock and a hard place, and frankly,
donors are burned. We are not happy.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
We just had a.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Donor call with Kamala last week on Tuesday, and she
was talking about our Thanksgiving recipe. I remember, are we
allowed a curse on Europe? Anyway, I was texting my
friend who's also a doner, like holy shit, wow, Like
how tone deaf can you be? There was no responsibility,
(26:43):
no taking of accountability, and no explaining what exactly happened.
There were people on that call who gave millions of dollars.
I raised millions of dollars from people close to me,
some people. Some people had a difficult time giving that much.
You know, these weren't all just like billionaires or oldergarks.
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These are everyday Americans who gave their life savings.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
You know, do you think that lack of accountability stems
from the fact that you didn't have to earn the nomination.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Yeah? Yeah, Also, it's a bomber world. You know, it's
the same group of people. I don't want to name
any names, but they're the same people who did the
pod Save America interview. If you listen to that. They
also failed to take any responsibility. They were like people
with no agency whatsoever, whatsoever. They blamed everything from the
(27:40):
hurricane Hurricane Helene, they blamed that. They blamed amount of time,
although some people say the more time Calm was spent
on their race, the less people liked her. So, you know,
they blamed everything but themselves. And I want to draw
everyone's attention to the fact the hundreds of millions of
(28:01):
dollars of advertising was spent and all of that went
to just four well connected democratic firms. Four people left
the campaign as overnight multimillionaires.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Jeez.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Yeah. And it's like Bully Pulpit International, you know, those firms,
the usual suspects in the democratic ecosystem.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Well, I think what's remarkable about the amount of money.
I think it was like one hundred million dollars a
week or something like that. But what's remarkable about her
burn rate is this was a truncated election cycle. It
was one hundred and seven days, and she spent more
than Hillary Clinton did during the entire twenty sixteen election.
She spent more than Joe Biden did during twenty twenty
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and an actual proper election cycle. And so this was
a truncated election cycle. To be able to burn through
that amount of money, particularly when you're a candidate it's
not even remotely matching you on spending, is just it's
almost unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Yeah, it truly is. And they definitely treated our money
as opm other people's money. And the question is, if
you can't even handle a campaign money, why should anyone
trust you with the treasury, with United States Treasury, with
our tax payer money. They definitely they just didn't care
at all because it was somebody else. And you know,
(29:22):
it wasn't just big donors like me or like fundraisers.
It was people giving ten to fifteen dollars. I led
something called Nerds and Geeks and Nerds for Hairs. People
were giving like ten to twenty dollars because they believed
in the campaign and they were snookered. It's just such
a shame. People need accountability. I don't see a path forward.
(29:43):
I don't see how the Democrats are ever going to
raise this amount of money again if someone doesn't explain,
and you know what, they're still asking for money to
this day, emails are still going out. It's just incredible.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Before we go, just because.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
It's funny, Uh, what do you make of Tim Walls
being picked as the VP over you know, disaster Josh
Shapiro and then what's his future look like?
Speaker 3 (30:12):
It was a disaster for the Democratic Party. And I
said this on election I actually spoken. Yeah. Also just
he's like Tim Keane but a little weirder. And we
all know what happened to Tim Keane. I mean they
brutally lost. I mean they lost. This was a disaster
for the Democratic Party. But it was a win for
jos Shapiro because it protected him from this catastrophe. You know,
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Josh is a moderate like I am, and we've known
each other for a long time. We're friends. He may
be a Commissioner of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. We're close
to allies, and he would have been a much stronger candidate.
But I'm glad he wasn't because I don't want him
to be a part of this. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
I almost wonder if he even wanted it, or if
he would have. Do you think would he have? Do
you think he would have?
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I know he did.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
I know he did, yeah, just from personal conversations. But
I think he's As the campaign went on, I think
he became increasingly grateful. It was like, but but the
grace of God go on, you know what I mean.
So I'm glad he wasn't there. I think the situation
was so dire and so disastrous that even Josh on
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the ticket was and wouldn't have been enough to save her.
In the Blue Wall States, Trump's win was so decisive
that I don't think anything short of an act of
God could have saved this.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Do you think the Democrat Party will finally admit that
Donald Trump is a political force and that he's actually
really good at this.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
I don't think they'll probably say he's in the malignant force.
But I don't think they're going to give him any credit.
You know, They're not going to give him credit where
credit is due. They're just not for them. They're just
so deep in the what is it tds, They're just
so deep in it. And I try, you know, I'm
not going to pre hate the Trump administration. A lot
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of people are pre hating already. He hasn't even done
anything really, you know, you know, there's some just every everything,
they're just gonna summarily hate it just because he did
it well.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
And also it frustrates me they're trying to deny him.
You know, this is a mandate to win the popular
vote for the first time for a Republican for since
you know.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Twenty years ago, passive. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Yeah, and you look at just the amount of blue
cities and states that have trended his way. I think
he got thirty percent across New York City, seven points
higher than twenty twenty. I mean, this is you know,
to be able to win Native America or yet to
win Native Americans to as you pointed out, big swings
with Asian Americans, Latinos, double digit swings, an increase with
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the black vote as well, so even an increase with
women after you know, abortion being such a you know,
allegedly driving for this election cycle and being on the
ballot in states like Florida. So I mean, you go winning,
you know, Star County, Texas. I think it was the
first time and I want to say one hundred and
twenty eight years Republican won, you know, Star County, Texas
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ninety seven percent Hispanic h So, you know, I mean,
it's it's it's just illogical to say that this wasn't
some sort of mandate for Donald Trump. It's just it's
you know, it's denying him the credit that I think
he's earned at this point.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
It was definitely a mandate. And I can feel it
in my bones. You know, people should just need they need.
And I've said this before and I've said it on air.
Democrats need to accept reality. This is reality. You know,
people are still indulging those election conspiracies. There are still
Democrats getting mad at me because I've moved on, you know,
(33:50):
I've accepted that Trump won, and they're still saying, oh
but Starlink, Oh but the Russians, or oh but the
machines are like whatever, just crazy stuff. I even had
someone I don't want any names, a huge left wing influencer,
call me, and she was earnest and I wouldn't think
she was crazy otherwise, Well, she's like, but Lindy, can
you please look into this. It's like she actually believed it.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
It's like they can't just accept it.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
They can't accept that. People like Trump. And I know
because I'm Asian, you know, I'm Asian American and I have,
you know, my roots. I know a lot of people.
We are culturally conservative, Like, I get it. I grew
up as a conservative Christian. I went to church. I
went to an evangelical church every Sunday. I'm still Christian.
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I read the Bible everything, like I get it. But
there are just some people who just can't compute. It
just doesn't compute in their minds.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Well, Lindy, the water's warm. We'll take you to the right.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
If you want to say that. The right and Fox
and the entire landscape, like the entire ecosystem. You guys
are tree me so well, you've made it. You made
me feel safe. It just like and I've been I've
been thinking back. I want to be yourself for your time.
But I've been thinking back, like over the years too.
(35:11):
Fox has always been with me. You guys even ran
my boring environmental pieces from like twenty nineteen like I
cared about some like coal plant. You guys did a
piece on that because I cared about it. You know,
I'm just like, I'm thinking back if you guys have
had my back this entire time.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Well, you know, we believe in free thinking, and we
believe in the American dream. And you know, I think
Donald Trump said that he believes that success will unite
the country, and so that's what I'm hoping for over
these next four years.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Before we go, Is there anything else you'd like to
leave us with.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
I'm just so grateful I watch you. You are a
rock star on TV. You were born to do this,
and I'm just grateful that you and John, your producer,
reached out. It's it's such a pleasure to speak with you,
and I I love and I trust it I'll keep
seeing you shining. Well.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
It's a very kind of you. I love working in TV.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
But I appreciate your time and I appreciate your honesty,
and I hope to see you around.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Thank you so much, Lisa, take good care.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
That was Lindy Lee. We appreciate her time.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Appreciate you guys at home for listening every Monday and Thursday.
But of course you can listen throughout the week. I
also want to thank John Cassho and my producer for
putting the show together.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Until next time,
Typically after a party suffers big electoral losses, there's some
soul searching, there's some figuring out of why.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Did we lose? What went wrong for us?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
There's a desire to try to reach to some sort
of conclusions you don't make those same mistakes in the future.
Doesn't appear that the bulk of the Democrat Party has
done that, that they refuse to see the election for
what it was. I mean, you know, for instance, you
still see the doubling down that somehow men can play
in women's sports or men can be women, despite the
fact that the vast, vast majority of Americans disagree at
(00:34):
that point of view, and then they wonder why they
lost by taking positions that only a small percentage of
Americans agree with. Today, we're going to talk to someone
who has been refreshingly honest. She's a Democrat who's been
refreshingly honest about why Democrats lost, about expressing her concerns.
She was appointed by Pennsylvania Governor jos Shapiro as a
(00:55):
Commissioner of Pennsylvania. She also serves the Democrat National Committee's
National Far Finance Committee. So she raised money for Kamala
Harras as well as for Democrats. But she's been rerofessionally
honest about her concerns over Kamala Harra is blowing through
all that money, the state of the Democrat Party, and
even perhaps has been thinking about leaving the Democrat Party.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
So we're going to get her perspective on all of that.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
We're also going to get her perspective on this sweeping,
sweeping parden that Joe Biden just did for his son Hunter,
spanning from January one, twenty fourteen, to December one, twenty
twenty four even outside of the timeline of the tax
charges that Hunter is facing, outside of the timeline of
(01:38):
the gun charges that Hunter is facing, and also stemming
back to twenty fourteen when he first sat on the
board of Barisma, So why did he do that? What
is he hiding? What else is Hunter being protected from?
This pardon is the most sweeping in American history.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Her name is Linda Lee.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
You've probably seen her on Fox and you know, talking
making the rounds, talking to people about what we're wrong
for Democrats and her perspective on the current Democrat Party.
So all that more with Lindy, stay tuned.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Well, Lindy, it's great to have you on you.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
I've been seeing you on the news, and I know
you've been very honest about sort of your thoughts from
the election. So I'm looking forward to digging into all
of it. There's obviously a lot going on, a lot
to discuss. I appreciate you making the time.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Oh, I'm so honored to be here with you, Lidsa.
You're a superstar and it's just it's a joy to
be with you. I love seeing you rocket on TV.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Well, I really appreciate that. But doing it for a while,
so it's you know, but it's.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Been busy, but that's good though in this business. I
wanted to ask you obviously, I want to get to Kamala.
There's a lot to unpack there about the election and
what went wrong. But I wanted to first start out
with Joe Biden's pardon. Oh boy, Well, what's strange about
is it extends from January first, twenty fourteen to December exactly. Yeah,
and that's well years and it's well beyond his tax
(03:02):
and gun charges period. So why this broad of a pardon?
What else is Hunter Biden guilty of?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Yeah, that's a really good question. First, that was kind
of sympathetic to the whole thing because this is the
aged father and it's only surviving some But then I
actually read the pardon and it is damning. It is
eleven years. It is as you said, it's way beyond
the scope of his initial charges in Delaware, in California.
So what else is going on here? And I think
the next one to look out for is actually James Biden.
(03:31):
Is he going to pardon his brother as well? And
bear in mind that the eleven years covers Hunter's time
at Breizemath, it also Biden's potential involvement. So is this
an act of self preservation in addition to love? All
these questions are going across my mind. You know, this
is just not the This is a black eye to
his legacy, which is already in tatters following the loss.
(03:54):
So this is not great.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Well, you know, and that's what we were discussing. You know,
I was on Fox last night and we were covering
the breaking news and that was you know, questions we
were asking some of the guests we had, and that
was one of the things that was mentioned about, you know,
about this potentially could shield Joe Biden from some of
the roads leading to him, because we've seen previously where
(04:16):
these irs whistleblowers have stepped forward and said that they
were thwarted in any sort of investigative attempts looking into Barisma.
That we also saw federal the Department of Justice allowed
the lapse of the Barisma charges so that it would
be outside of the statute of limitations, and that they
were told they were also thwarted in any sort of
(04:36):
roads that would lead to Joe Biden. So you know
how much of this is self preservation? You know, is
this is this pardon for Hunter Biden or is it
for Joe Biden?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
We know increasingly. I think we know now that the
Biden family is like a clan. They were all in
business together, even the grandkids benefited from it. So I
think it was actually both. It was, you know, killing
tubirds on stone, and I just feel like the whole thing,
it just makes it so much worse because he lied.
(05:06):
Let's just not let's not miss any words about what
happened here. Okay, he said time and time again he
lied to the American people. Not only did he lie,
he lied after the election when Kamo is no longer
on the ballot and he was in candidate either, So
that was totally unforced area. He didn't have to lie
at that point. He could have said, oh, I'm looking
into it whatever, and then he had his he had
(05:28):
his Tokyo Rose Koreem job Pierre go out and lie
for him too. So this is just not a good
look all around. And Democrats say that they claim the
moral high ground, but how could they possibly do so
when something like this happens.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Well, you know it also I think raises and gives
gives validity to the concerns about you know, Joe Biden
being the beneficiary of Hunters were you know, as vice
president righta, you know, the ten for the big guy,
you know, the flying Hunter on air force to to
you know, China and then shaking hands of business leaders
(06:06):
and then somehow, you know, a Hunter gets these deals
that he's been working on, you know, just the degreasing
of the wheels, the allowing Hunter to leverage Joe's position
as vice president to make money.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
It just it gives more validity to you.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Know, that line of concern and also the concern that
you know, Joe Biden leveraged his position of power to
enrich his family.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Yeah, and now that he's going out of power. I'm
just wondering if publications that have been covering up for
him up until now, will you know, take another look.
And you know, since I used to be a regular
on MSNBC and CNN, no one has had me on
since I started criticizing Kamala Hair. So this just makes
me wonder, like, what is going on here? I'm experiencing
(06:52):
that personally, So I wouldn't be surprised at all if
publications just don't want to run that stuff in order
to protect them now that he's out of he's going
out of office, maybe you know, the gloves of laws
and same goes with I can't believe him saying this,
but like the allegations about Doug Emhoff, did Fox report
about it, CNN, MSNBC certainly didn't.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah, we reported about it, well, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
And two it's I mean, we all saw Joe Biden
on camera bragging about threatening to you know, withhold money
and to get the prosecutor general haired in Ukraine who
was investigating Bresma holdings. We were told that no, that
was because there was corruption there, he was doing the
right thing.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
And then now this really is certainly.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
You know, This gives more validity again to the fact
that no, he was actually just trying to get the
guy fired who was investigating his son and potentially him
as well. And then remember, you know, Donald Trump was
impeached over asking President Zelenski about Joe Biden and Hunter
Biden's business dealings in Ukraine as well. So there's a
(07:58):
lot of different layers, which I'm sure you know will
continue to get to on this story. But I want
to ask, I think the point of frustration for Republicans.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Is not of not understanding.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
It's not of pardoning your son, because I think most
people could kind of understand, you know, see how a
president would do that.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
It's it's the line. And then it's also the continued.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Lectures we were on the other end of yeah, Bo
Biden saying no one is sermonizing all the threats to democracy,
and then they install a candidate who didn't receive a
single primary vote or you.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Know, or no one's above the law.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
But then you pardon your son from you know, January first,
twenty fourteen to December first, twenty twenty four the.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Very years that the Laptop from Hell most and it
just yeah, and it just raises the question of you know,
the Democrat Party is not any of the things they
tell us they stand for.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
So I guess what is today's Democrat Party stand for?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Hey, Lisa, I wish I could tell you. I'm in
the middle of a tussle with the Democratic Party, So
I wish I could tell you. Man, I'm an environmentalist.
I alluded to this earlier, but this is the primary issue.
I just feel like the Republican Party isn't as strong
as it could be on you know, environmental issues. I
It's just something that's dear to my heart. But if
(09:12):
this issue, if Trump can get on board with this,
I would seriously consider switching parties at this point. So
I wish I could tell you, because frankly, we just
experienced a two billion dollar boondoggle. It was an utter disaster,
and a lot of donors they don't want to do
what I'm doing, and you know, say it publicly, but
(09:35):
you better believe that I have dozens of people that
I'm in touch with constantly, people who are just extremely
upset at the direction that the party is heading in.
We are pretty much resigned to the fact that we're
going to be in the wilderness for forty eight years,
if not more.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Well, I think you should look into you know, look,
I live in the state of Florida, and so most
of tourism stems from or be beaches, stems from, you know,
the beauty of the state, and so we are very
into conserving that and protecting our waters and protecting our
lands and protecting our beaches.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
So I think you can protect the environment.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
What we don't support is things like the Paris Climate
Accord and uh, bankrupting or nation while you know, countries
like China and you know, India build coal coal manufacturers,
you know, and and and while we uh, you know,
bankrupt our country and the process of meeting some goals
(10:32):
that a Paris Climate Accord type agreement will never reach
us to all, while we were reduced for carbon emissions
by just the you know, the private sector and innovation
as well. So I don't, you know, I would just
look into that a little bit further.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Let's talk more. Yeah, I had this conversation with Jesse
Waters too, and yeah, a lot of people are getting
my ear about that. But you and I see. My
point is you and I see to eye on I
mean more than you probably know. And so I just
I'm very frustrated at the state of I mean the
(11:11):
party real large right now. I just we were basically headless.
We've basically been decapitated. We pushed our president aside and
he's not at his prime. Let's just say it. Let's
just put.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
It that way.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
And our vice president just received a shellacking and our
DNC chair is leaving in a cloud of I don't
have no other word but disgrace. I mean, give them
what happened. So we don't really have a leader right now.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
You know, look, I've I've worked in politics for a
long time. You have as well.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
We see after a party loses big time, right like
if you get sweep during the midterms, you know, you
lose the presidential cycle, there's a lot of introspection. There's
a lot of what do we do wrong? You know,
soul searching. I guess you know, one, do you think
Democrats are doing that? And then you know two, there's
been a lot of names floated around, whether it's you know,
Gavin Newsom or aoc Oh my god, help us lord.
(12:07):
I guess one, do you think the party is doing
the proper soul searching? And then two, you know, who
do you potentially see as taking up the mantle of
the Democrat Party.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Well, I mean not AOC. That would just be I
mean devastating for the party and great for Republicans. So
maybe yes, AOC. But yeah, this has just been I've
been trying to make sure that people learn the right lessons,
but people are attacking me. Okay, this is me trying
to shore up the party and make the party stronger.
(12:43):
But they are not willing to listen to anyone who's
not saying the entire country is racist and bigoted and sexist.
They are blaming Kamala's loss on sexism and racism. Okay,
sure there's some of that, but that's not the primary reason.
They don't want to take any accountability at all. It's
(13:04):
just the same, you know, it's the same woke narrative
that it all comes down to race and sex, and
she was this amazing candidate who ran this flawless campaign.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I mean, come on, We've got more with Lindy.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
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Democrats are so fixated with race? Because I can tell
you I've been to you know, Trump rallies. I was
at the Convention Center on election night and you see
people of every single background. You could ever imagine. You
see every different race, every different religion, men, women, you
see people who you know maybe come from lower incomes,
(14:46):
higher income. You see it all, and everyone just comes
together in support and love of our country. And you know,
like the right's not fixated on that. We're fixated on
things of commonality, Like we're fixated on building a stronger country,
like literally just making America great again. We're focused on
wanting to achieve the American dream. And you look at
(15:07):
the left. Instead of issues that unite us, they're focused
on all these issues of division.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
So why is that. Yeah, it's just it's such.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
A shame and speaking of the American dream. I feel
like my family is embodiment of that. English is my
second language. We escaped communists China and went to England
and then came here. So like, if you want to
talk about the American dream, I like a lot of
what you're saying resonates with me. I totally get it.
And that's why you saw I think it was a
(15:36):
shift in Nevada amongst Asian American voters. A lot of
them feel the same way I do. They've shifted towards Trump.
They don't want the woke stuff. They just don't want
the insanity. They just don't want They just don't want it.
And now it's a crime to say that you don't
want men in girls' bathrooms. Like if I were to
(15:58):
say that on air, I get ston't, I get tarred
and feathered. So I've taken to actually quoting Seth Molton.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
I said, yeah, his name propped in my head as
he I was like, well, you could ask Steth molt Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
I try to.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
I try to erect a buffer around myself by saying,
well Seth Walton said this, I, you know, instead of
saying it directly. But it's just like insane that I can't.
I don't feel comfortable saying that because somebody they're gonna
attack me, but they attacked me.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
I'm sorry, they'll go ahead, go ahead, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
I was just about to say, you know, I received
so much hate for saying Kamala's campaign was a two
billion dollars or one billion dollar disaster. It's actually two
I gave them. I forgot to mention the superback, So actually,
if you want to be entirely accurate, it was two
point one because the super pac raised about one billion
and the campaign itself raised about one point five I mean, well,
(16:55):
the numbers, it's it's hard to pinpoint its actually how
much until December fifth when the reports come out, but
the estimate is anywhere from two point one to two
point five billion dollars raise. I received so much hate
for pointing out the obvious. They just don't want to
hear it.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Yeah, because I guess what.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I don't understand is that, you know, the the Democrat
Party will tell us that men can be women, men
should plan women's sports, but then the vast majority of
Americans disagree with that point of view. I mean, you
have you know, upwards of seventy percent or higher Americans
do not believe men should plan women's sports. So they
take a position that is wildly outside of the mainstream
and then wonder why they lost an election. And it's like,
(17:37):
it's pretty obvious and it's common sense. You know, I
wanted to ask you, so, at one point, you did
support Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
You know, why did you support her then?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
And then now after the election, what's your viewpoint of her?
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I honestly, so, I've been thinking a lot about this
question over the last couple of weeks. Given what happened,
and I realized now that I didn't see an alternative
because this is just how I don't know how is
Can you think of another word that's softer than indoctrinated?
Because when I went to college, it was just the
(18:11):
way I kind of like, I was sixteen when I
got to college, and that was the year that Obama
was elected. So I kind of fell into that fervor.
You know, do you remember that energy? You know a
lot of college kids were really excited, and I kind
of just like fell into it, yeah, exactly, And that
was just my reality. I did not think there was
an alternative. And I went to Princeville. There was like
(18:34):
there were no conservatives. I think there were one or
two and they were shamed for it. So for me,
I didn't think there was I really, I know this
probably sounds crazy to you, but I didn't think there
was an alternative. I just didn't. This is just my life,
you know. And I lived in Philadelphia. Come on, like Philadelphia,
so like I didn't, you know, I've been in Pennsylvania
(18:54):
all my life. I just didn't. I never experienced an alternative.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
No, I mean that makes sense to me.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
I'm not I'm not gonna shame for you that by
by any means, you know, post election and post election lost,
has your view of Trump changed?
Speaker 3 (19:10):
It has. Yeah, I'm a little scared by how much
it's changed. And I feel like if he and I,
if I ever had the privilege of having conversation with him,
I think he and I would probably get along and
probably have a laugh.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
You would love him. He's actually like, I.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Feel like you would just you know, laugh over the
same things. I understand him. I yeah, And I've watched
a lot of the videos that his own granddaughter put
out about him. I think, what's her name, it's's daughter.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
She's like, yep, yeah, she's adorable.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Yeah, And it just it really just put my view
of him in a new light. It just And also
I also I feel liberated for the first time in decades,
probably I'm thirty three. Now I'm finally me. I feel
like I've always had to pretend that I'm okay with
(20:02):
all the woke stuff. I'm not okay with the woke stuff.
I'm just gonna stay right here. It makes me deeply uncomfortable,
and it used to be criminal to say that, But
now I can just say that you know, saying stuff
is back, you know what I mean, saying stuff without
getting canceled. I've gotten canceled so many times. Why now
(20:24):
just for like saying random stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I guess what does it tell you then?
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Because you know, clearly, I think a lot of Americans
and we saw it, right, we saw Rfk Junior get
on board with Donald Trump. Well, we saw Nicole Shanahan
get on board with Donald Trump. We saw Tolcy Gabbard
get on board with Donald Trump. We've saw Joe Rogan
get on board with Donald Trump. Elon Musk, you know,
you're saying that you are feeling like you're you're potentially
getting on board.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
So we've seen all these democrats.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
It's like this veil has been you know, lifted and
sort of seeing him in a different light. So I
guess what does that tell us about the media system
today and the left's ability to indoctrinate so many Americans
to really look at this man as you know, this
evil guy. And then now I think a lot of
people are waking up to being like, oh, actually, like
(21:12):
you know, he seems pretty cool or you know, I
kind of agree with him on a lot of things,
like why why did I hate him so much. But
that's pretty scary that people were driven to that point
by the media and by the left.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
So I guess what did I tell you about that?
Speaker 1 (21:25):
And I guess the state of the country that so
many people were able to be pushed in that direction
by this powerful media and the Democrat Party.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Yeah, that's so interesting. And I think one need only
look at what's happening with comcasts and spin Co and
how they're trying to get rid of MSNBC and also CNN.
The ratings have just plunged. I think MSNBC has lost
fifty percent of his leadership since selection day and Fox
has searched. So I think people are waking up to that.
(21:56):
Just to the gas flighting and also Joe and Mika
saying that using extremist language like about how Trump is
Trump is Hitler and then going down to mar A
Lago to consider ring. I mean, the hypocrisy is just dripping.
It's just awful, you know. I It's just it just
(22:17):
doesn't look it just it just people are waking up
to the fact that you can't say that he was
Hitler one day and then just all of a sudden,
things aren't that bad, you know what I mean? It
just like which one is it? It can't be both
can't be true.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
You're right.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
That's the thing is that if this guy is Hitler,
you wouldn't be you wouldn't be traveling to sit down
with him. Or if this guy's Hitler, Joe Biden wouldn't
be inviting him to the White House for you know,
two plus hours or whatever it was. So it's like,
but then to call someone hitler is such an inflammatory
and dangerous and damning thing to call someone.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Yeah, but I feel like the left is called Look,
the left has called so many people hitler at this
point that is almost lost its emphasis. You know, it's
loss its meaning. Same with you. They throw out racists,
they call everyone racist and sexist and anti semitic. You know,
when you overuse terms like that, they lose their meeting.
So it's like the boy who cried Wolf. They keep
on call, they keep on crying racist, so no one
(23:17):
really pays attention anymore.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
You know, we've got more with Lindy.
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Do you think does Kamala Harris well? One, I have
to imagine you know, especially from you being on the
money side, of it. It'd be hard for her. I
don't do you think people would donate to her again? Like,
what does her political future look like?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Do you think at this point?
Speaker 3 (24:47):
That's such a good question. And I've discussed this with
many donors and other stakeholders in the last couple weeks.
Do you think she's done again? You know, anything is
possible in life, so but we think she's done. So
she's thinking about running for governor in twenty twenty four.
What people don't realize is that she would be running
against one of her closest friends, Lieutenant Governor LENNI sorry,
(25:10):
I'm gonna spare me from having the crowns realized name.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
You could just say really fast, that's what I do.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
No, it's actually it's a very long Lieutenant governor.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
That's all people, we're tired this morning.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
It's fine, Thanks for everyone's compassion. So anyway, she is
the cousin of Kamala Harris's finance chair, Christian Faust, so
they're like thick as thieves. They're very close. So the
question is if she's in the LG. The Lieutenant governor
is the current front runner and the gubernatorial race, so
(25:46):
if she were to run for governor in twenty twenty six,
she would basically have just to have her friend in
the back. So the question is is she going to
allow her addition to Trump friendship? Knowing her, I would
say yes, But also, she wants to be president and
the turnaround in time is basically impossible because that's twenty
(26:08):
twenty eight versus twenty twenty six, and being governor California
is actually a real job, so she needs to do it.
So she's in a rock and a hard place, and frankly,
donors are burned. We are not happy.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
We just had a.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Donor call with Kamala last week on Tuesday, and she
was talking about our Thanksgiving recipe. I remember, are we
allowed a curse on Europe? Anyway, I was texting my
friend who's also a doner, like holy shit, wow, Like
how tone deaf can you be? There was no responsibility,
(26:43):
no taking of accountability, and no explaining what exactly happened.
There were people on that call who gave millions of dollars.
I raised millions of dollars from people close to me,
some people. Some people had a difficult time giving that much.
You know, these weren't all just like billionaires or oldergarks.
(27:04):
These are everyday Americans who gave their life savings.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
You know, do you think that lack of accountability stems
from the fact that you didn't have to earn the nomination.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Yeah? Yeah, Also, it's a bomber world. You know, it's
the same group of people. I don't want to name
any names, but they're the same people who did the
pod Save America interview. If you listen to that. They
also failed to take any responsibility. They were like people
with no agency whatsoever, whatsoever. They blamed everything from the
(27:40):
hurricane Hurricane Helene, they blamed that. They blamed amount of time,
although some people say the more time Calm was spent
on their race, the less people liked her. So, you know,
they blamed everything but themselves. And I want to draw
everyone's attention to the fact the hundreds of millions of
(28:01):
dollars of advertising was spent and all of that went
to just four well connected democratic firms. Four people left
the campaign as overnight multimillionaires.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Jeez.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Yeah. And it's like Bully Pulpit International, you know, those firms,
the usual suspects in the democratic ecosystem.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Well, I think what's remarkable about the amount of money.
I think it was like one hundred million dollars a
week or something like that. But what's remarkable about her
burn rate is this was a truncated election cycle. It
was one hundred and seven days, and she spent more
than Hillary Clinton did during the entire twenty sixteen election.
She spent more than Joe Biden did during twenty twenty
(28:44):
and an actual proper election cycle. And so this was
a truncated election cycle. To be able to burn through
that amount of money, particularly when you're a candidate it's
not even remotely matching you on spending, is just it's
almost unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Yeah, it truly is. And they definitely treated our money
as opm other people's money. And the question is, if
you can't even handle a campaign money, why should anyone
trust you with the treasury, with United States Treasury, with
our tax payer money. They definitely they just didn't care
at all because it was somebody else. And you know,
(29:22):
it wasn't just big donors like me or like fundraisers.
It was people giving ten to fifteen dollars. I led
something called Nerds and Geeks and Nerds for Hairs. People
were giving like ten to twenty dollars because they believed
in the campaign and they were snookered. It's just such
a shame. People need accountability. I don't see a path forward.
(29:43):
I don't see how the Democrats are ever going to
raise this amount of money again if someone doesn't explain,
and you know what, they're still asking for money to
this day, emails are still going out. It's just incredible.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Before we go, just because.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
It's funny, Uh, what do you make of Tim Walls
being picked as the VP over you know, disaster Josh
Shapiro and then what's his future look like?
Speaker 3 (30:12):
It was a disaster for the Democratic Party. And I
said this on election I actually spoken. Yeah. Also just
he's like Tim Keane but a little weirder. And we
all know what happened to Tim Keane. I mean they
brutally lost. I mean they lost. This was a disaster
for the Democratic Party. But it was a win for
jos Shapiro because it protected him from this catastrophe. You know,
(30:38):
Josh is a moderate like I am, and we've known
each other for a long time. We're friends. He may
be a Commissioner of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. We're close
to allies, and he would have been a much stronger candidate.
But I'm glad he wasn't because I don't want him
to be a part of this. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
I almost wonder if he even wanted it, or if
he would have. Do you think would he have? Do
you think he would have?
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I know he did.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
I know he did, yeah, just from personal conversations. But
I think he's As the campaign went on, I think
he became increasingly grateful. It was like, but but the
grace of God go on, you know what I mean.
So I'm glad he wasn't there. I think the situation
was so dire and so disastrous that even Josh on
(31:24):
the ticket was and wouldn't have been enough to save her.
In the Blue Wall States, Trump's win was so decisive
that I don't think anything short of an act of
God could have saved this.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Do you think the Democrat Party will finally admit that
Donald Trump is a political force and that he's actually
really good at this.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
I don't think they'll probably say he's in the malignant force.
But I don't think they're going to give him any credit.
You know, They're not going to give him credit where
credit is due. They're just not for them. They're just
so deep in the what is it tds, They're just
so deep in it. And I try, you know, I'm
not going to pre hate the Trump administration. A lot
(32:08):
of people are pre hating already. He hasn't even done
anything really, you know, you know, there's some just every everything,
they're just gonna summarily hate it just because he did
it well.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
And also it frustrates me they're trying to deny him.
You know, this is a mandate to win the popular
vote for the first time for a Republican for since
you know.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Twenty years ago, passive. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Yeah, and you look at just the amount of blue
cities and states that have trended his way. I think
he got thirty percent across New York City, seven points
higher than twenty twenty. I mean, this is you know,
to be able to win Native America or yet to
win Native Americans to as you pointed out, big swings
with Asian Americans, Latinos, double digit swings, an increase with
(32:51):
the black vote as well, so even an increase with
women after you know, abortion being such a you know,
allegedly driving for this election cycle and being on the
ballot in states like Florida. So I mean, you go winning,
you know, Star County, Texas. I think it was the
first time and I want to say one hundred and
twenty eight years Republican won, you know, Star County, Texas
(33:12):
ninety seven percent Hispanic h So, you know, I mean,
it's it's it's just illogical to say that this wasn't
some sort of mandate for Donald Trump. It's just it's
you know, it's denying him the credit that I think
he's earned at this point.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
It was definitely a mandate. And I can feel it
in my bones. You know, people should just need they need.
And I've said this before and I've said it on air.
Democrats need to accept reality. This is reality. You know,
people are still indulging those election conspiracies. There are still
Democrats getting mad at me because I've moved on, you know,
(33:50):
I've accepted that Trump won, and they're still saying, oh
but Starlink, Oh but the Russians, or oh but the
machines are like whatever, just crazy stuff. I even had
someone I don't want any names, a huge left wing influencer,
call me, and she was earnest and I wouldn't think
she was crazy otherwise, Well, she's like, but Lindy, can
you please look into this. It's like she actually believed it.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
It's like they can't just accept it.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
They can't accept that. People like Trump. And I know
because I'm Asian, you know, I'm Asian American and I have,
you know, my roots. I know a lot of people.
We are culturally conservative, Like, I get it. I grew
up as a conservative Christian. I went to church. I
went to an evangelical church every Sunday. I'm still Christian.
(34:36):
I read the Bible everything, like I get it. But
there are just some people who just can't compute. It
just doesn't compute in their minds.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Well, Lindy, the water's warm. We'll take you to the right.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
If you want to say that. The right and Fox
and the entire landscape, like the entire ecosystem. You guys
are tree me so well, you've made it. You made
me feel safe. It just like and I've been I've
been thinking back. I want to be yourself for your time.
But I've been thinking back, like over the years too.
(35:11):
Fox has always been with me. You guys even ran
my boring environmental pieces from like twenty nineteen like I
cared about some like coal plant. You guys did a
piece on that because I cared about it. You know,
I'm just like, I'm thinking back if you guys have
had my back this entire time.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Well, you know, we believe in free thinking, and we
believe in the American dream. And you know, I think
Donald Trump said that he believes that success will unite
the country, and so that's what I'm hoping for over
these next four years.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Before we go, Is there anything else you'd like to
leave us with.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
I'm just so grateful I watch you. You are a
rock star on TV. You were born to do this,
and I'm just grateful that you and John, your producer,
reached out. It's it's such a pleasure to speak with you,
and I I love and I trust it I'll keep
seeing you shining. Well.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
It's a very kind of you. I love working in TV.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
But I appreciate your time and I appreciate your honesty,
and I hope to see you around.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Thank you so much, Lisa, take good care.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
That was Lindy Lee. We appreciate her time.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Appreciate you guys at home for listening every Monday and Thursday.
But of course you can listen throughout the week. I
also want to thank John Cassho and my producer for
putting the show together.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Until next time,
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