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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, this is Buck Sexton and you're listening to the
Tutor Dixon Podcast, part of the Clay Travers and Buck
Sexton podcast Network.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I'm Tutor Dixon, and
I'm so glad you're with me today because today I
have one of my dear friends with me and I'm
really excited to chat with him, the founder of the
walk Away Campaign, Brandon Strock. Brandon, we've known each other
for about I think it's like five years now that
we've known each other, and you are one of my
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favorite people because no matter how long it is between
us talking, it's just like we pick up right where
we left off. You're one of those friends and I
love that about you.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Thank you. Yeah, we clicked right away.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
You and I met in October, well maybe just before
October September ish of twenty eighteen. You were working on
a movie which I ended up having like a teeny
tiny part in, and I think we went out to
lunch and we just clicked, and yeah, we've been friends
ever since.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
So I don't think I've ever told you this, but
I watched your video. Actually my mom sent me your video.
I want was a liberal and so for people who
are listening. So Brandon is the guy who had it
was like this kind of sexy looking video where he
was like I once was a liberal, and then we
all were blown away, right, And my mom sent this
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to me. She's like, oh my gosh, this guy is
so cute. You've got to watch this video. And then
when when we were having you come out to Grand Rabbits,
I'm like, oh, I'm so intimidated because this guy is like,
you know, really cute and very famous, and you were
totally normal. So I mean, you know, you're like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Actually he's a big loser, is what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
You met me, No, No, you were, you were very
I was actually surprised, and I thought you were much
younger than me, but I think we're like the same age.
So that made me happy too.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Thanks. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
No, I mean, I definitely don't take myself super seriously
and I never have. And I have a background. Actually
some people don't know I did a lot of acting.
I did acting and then I became a hairstylist and
then I started the Walkway Camp and it's been a
weird journey, but I always like to bring a lot
of sort of the I like to do things for
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the conservative movement in a way that I feel like
they a lot of people are not doing that, you know,
like kind of a fresh perspective. And so what I
wanted to do is bring a little bit of theatricality
to the presentation of like my videos and my message
and things like that.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
So when I made that first video, I wanted it.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
I mean, I didn't have a budget first of all,
so I didn't have any money, but I even if
I did, I kind of wanted it to just be
clean and simple and a little bit dramatic. And so
I just put on a black T shirt and a
black background and shine to light my face and talked
about all the reasons why I was walking away from
the Democratic Party, and it was I mean, it was
like kind of a dramatic, intense video. But I think
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ultimately it achieved its purpose because I think a lot
of people it resonated with a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
It's still resonating. I think that's the best part about it.
You just recently launched walk Away Social and I think
sometimes when people hear oh there's a new social place form,
they just think, oh, I can't add another one. But
this is really unique, and so I want people to
really check this out and see what it is, because
I think that when I think of social media, I
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think of a place that is kind of dark now,
and it's this like, you know, my life is better
than yours, or you're wrong, and it's just a place
where people argue or brag. But walk Away is totally different.
So explain to us a little bit about walk Away
Social and why people should go there.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yeah, and thank you for that setup. I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
So we I started a Facebook group in twenty eighteen
after I launched that video that we were just talking about,
and over the course of the next two and a
half years, the group grew to five hundred and eleven
thousand people a little more than that. And this wasn't
just a group where people come and post memes and
stupid little things that they see on the internet. We
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kept it an incredibly tight, well moderated group where we
only allow people to share testimonials. So people were sharing
either written or video testimonials telling their stories about either
why they walk away from the Democratic Party or we
also for people who have never been on the left.
We call that community the walk with people. They walk
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with those who walk away to support, and so I
encourage walk away and walk with people to create testimonials.
And for the walk with people, they talked a lot
about their values, why if you're a Republican, why you're
a Republican or conservative, and why people should walk away
from the left. And we had like thousands of videos
and tens of thousands of written testimonials, and on January
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eighth of twenty twenty one, Facebook, we all woke up
and it was just everything was gone. Facebook had banned
the group, They had banned the personal accounts of all
my admins and all of that content, all of those videos,
the stories, and the community, everything was gone. And so
we had a decision to make about do we try
to just move walk away over to another platform, which
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I think for a lot of people who don't really
fully understand social media, because I had people reaching out
and being like, just go to Twitter or you know,
Donald Trump is coming out with truth social just over there,
and it's it required very specific functionality. I mean, we
needed groups, we needed to be able to moderate the groups,
we needed to be There's a lot of things we
needed to make it work. So we made the decision
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to build our own and that's what we've done. It
took a long time, but about a little less than
two months ago, I launched walk Away Social. And so
this is a platform. It's autonomous. It's to rebuild the
walkway slash walk with community. It functions very similarly to Facebook.
People can find it on the Google Play Store, the
Apple App Store. But to your point, what I'm not
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asking people to do is just join another social media
platform where once again they're going somewhere else and posting
and doing all this. What I want is to primarily
rebuild the walkway movement in the community. So there's a
testimonial group on Walkway Social, just like there was on Facebook,
where people can upload their videos or their written stories.
We also have state groups for all fifty states. So
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people can join these state groups and it's amazing. I mean,
they can either plan events or they can post things
about political happenings. They can plan things like activism, activities
or socialization. I mean people want to just get together
with like minded people and go to movies, or can
do a meet and greet or go out for pizza, whatever.
They can do all these things in their state groups,
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we have discussion groups.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
What you just said I think is important, meet up together,
go out for pizza. Because when I was following walk
Away on Facebook back before it got kicked off. And
I think that's also significant because I don't think people
realize how many conservatives were just removed from social media
and it's your business, it's everything, and your whole history
is just wiped completely clean. But when you talk about
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people gathering together, that's important because when it was on
Facebook was over, it was really overwhelming to me the
number of people who would go, I'm totally ostros from
my friends. I've lost everybody because I decided that there
were certain things, and it was multiple, you know, it
was always a different variety of things, but there was
something about the far left or the liberals that I
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can no longer be. I can no longer be a
part of that. And just me coming out and saying
that was enough for me to get kicked out of
my friend group and I'm really lonely. And it became
a place where people were like, no, no, well let's
do something, let's get together outside of politics, let's just
hang out.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Absolutely true, and I to this day I hear from
people all the time who say that they met their
best friends through the walk Away movement, they met, you know,
a new peer group through the Walkway movement. And I
mean I even know many people who launched careers because
of the walk Away movement. I've heard many times excuse
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me from people who have told me, you know, I
had never been on really active on social media.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I'd never uploaded a video before.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
But I made a walk I told my story, I
uploaded it, and my story got you know, hundreds of
thousands or a million views, and then all of these
people started following me. And now I do my own
podcast or you know, I have my own channel, and
that's what I do.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I know a lot of people who made a walkaway
video and a lot of people started following them because
of their Walkway video.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
And now they're running for office and people have even
gotten elected on that side.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
So it's yeah, it's had this very far reaching effect,
and it is devastating that Facebook took the community down
and that you know, all of that sort of the
the origin of the whole thing is a little bit
lost now, especially when we live in such kind of
evil times where the left contorts and bends the narrative
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of things. I mean, if if you were to go
on Wikipedia or something like that and look up walk Away,
what you would read is that it was a Russian
propaganda campaign that was supported by you know, Russian Bob
and hate actors and fake testimonials and all this stuff.
And it's to me, it's very very sad that I
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don't really have the receipts anymore of what it originally was.
But you know, I'm a hard worker and I'm scrappy,
and I intend to rebuild everything from the ground up.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I think that's the inspiration here for other people. And
like I said, I sort of want to dive into
the idea of what happened to conservatives over from twenty
sixteen on, because as the media gained more and more power,
they started to cancel people. And we saw that through COVID.
We saw a lot of people just get everything ripped
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away if you say the wrong thing. I mean, this
really is state media now. It's wrong think gets canceled.
And I was having friends that were getting kicked off
of Facebook left and right, and this was probably I mean,
this was even before COVID or any of that. We
were seeing this movement to kick people off Facebook, and
when people really started to say, we don't you know,
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we're concerned about Maga Republicans, people just started getting canceled.
And I would see moms, like the local mom from
the soccer team kicked off of Facebook, and she would go,
this is how I find out about the soccer games,
this is how I find out about the school play.
I mean, you have groups on Facebook that allow you
to know what's going on in your life. And that's
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when there was a lot of discussion about Section two
thirty and is this a public utility now or is
this really a private company? But it destroyed people's businesses
and their lives and there was really no recourse, was there.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
There's no recourse whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
And you know, even when they took down walk Away,
they didn't just take down the walk Away group. They
permanently banned. And by the way, we never got an
explanation why. We were never told there was a post aviolate.
We'd never had a violation, so it's not even restrikes
you're out or anything like that. I mean, we all
woke up one day and everything was gone. But they
didn't just ban the group. They banned every person who
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was an admin for the group.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Well, yes, that's something that I think other people don't
know too. There could be somebody in your organization that
is just someone who works on the page that no
one knows. Their own personal social media is all removed
one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
And that's what happened, So everyone's personal social media was
also removed anyone who was an admin. But to your point,
we had people who were admins of our group who
were literally just business people. Here's an example. The woman
who at the time was managing our merch you know,
selling our T shirts, our hats and things like that.
She was an admin to the Walkaway group because she
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needed to be able to go on in place NAT
saying hey we have a new T shirt or we
have a new ad. They permanently banned her, so she
lost her ability to manage merchandise for any of her
other clients on Facebook. Everything was gone.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Her entire business selling online merchandise gone.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
We had the same thing at the last company I
was at, because we had to be quite honest, Steve
Bannon was working there and so one of the guys
that was just post and he was not a he
was not somebody that worked at the company as a contractor,
so his business was to post for multiple different social medias.
Once you're kicked off your personal one, you then can't
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go into any others, like you can't have an account.
I think that's what people don't understand. So this contractor
who deals in social media gets completely banned because one
of the people that he works for gets banned. It's crazy, It's.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Really crazy, and they don't offer any way to be
able to get through to them, any way to communicate
and say like, hey, I think you've made a mistake
here or you know, look, if you're going to ban me,
I guess whatever it is, what it is, but please
don't ban this woman whose business is selling T shirts,
Like what are you doing? You know, I guess if
you'd like, we can go down the road of what
it's like to be a Republican with people in Congress
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who don't seem to be getting the message about what's
happening to people on the ground. I mean, I personally
was really disheartened when I saw recently that the Oversight
Committee had brought in all these people from Twitter, and
it seemed like all they cared about was grilling these
people about how they suppressed their Twitter accounts.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
The republic members of Congress interesting, you know.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
And I was like, you know, you've got a job,
and you're very you know, these are the people that
are on Fox News every single night.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
You know, they're they're doing fine. Okay, they're doing just fine.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
But there are a lot of people out there who
depend on social media just to be able to pay
their bills and to live. And I don't think that
those people are being represented by anybody, and I don't
think that those people are being given any recourse to
be able to air their grievances when big tech comes
in pulls the plug on them.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon Podcast. You're in a position where you've
always been really winning over the independence you're I mean,
you have the walk with but you've been winning over
the independence and not necessarily for a side for sanity. Really,
I mean, you have been that voice that said there
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are certain things that we just can't accept and here's
a safe place for you to be. So how do
you bring those people back? I mean, you said it yourself.
You're scrappy, You're rebuilding and walk Away is going well.
You've had supporters that have stayed with you. So what
does the future look like outside of walk Away Social?
How do you keep bringing people to this?
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Well, my plan at this point is to continue to
try to get the word out about this new social platform.
The most powerful tool that we have are the testimonials,
the real people using their voice and telling real stories.
Here's one example. A woman who I didn't even know
four or five days ago, named Natalie Bisner joined walk
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Away Social. She created a video testimonial. She then took
her video testimonial that she uploaded to walk Away Social
and she shared it on Twitter. You know which, obviously
at this point, Twitter is a well it always will
be a much much bigger platform than walk Away Social.
Once she shared the video that she uploaded from walk
Away Social to Twitter, within twenty four hours, it got
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one point three million views and it was wow and
were shouted out by Elon Musk, Monica Crowley and a
number of big personalities. And in terms of like Twitter impressions,
it got something like three point five million impressions in
twenty four hours something like that. So these stories are
the most powerful tools that we have to reach people
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because it's just real people using their voice and making video.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
I think that you're hearing people in a very raw
way speak about the different issues that are important, and
I know that it's a struggle to sometimes nail those
issues and get them right. So right now, I mean,
obviously we're hearing about crime, We're hearing about kids not
being educated. I mean kids that are coming out of
school not being able to read. We're hearing about the border.
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But what are you hearing on walkaway social What do
you think are the big issues that are causing people
to say, you know what, it's gone too far?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Well, I can tell you.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
I mean, one of the big things that is scaring
people right now is I think that a lot of
people feel like the walls are closing in on them
as it pertains to what our Department of Justice is
doing and again, by extension, what a lot of big
tech platforms and the media are doing in conjunction with
the DOJ. I mean, I think that people are literally
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feeling like it's a dangerous time to be a conservative.
And I'm sorry to say it is people are feeling
like they don't have the right anymore to show up
and protest, or to speak out or to be open
and honest about how they feel about vaccines and medications
and what's happening in our justice system, and so many
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other things. People tell me all the time. You know,
we're afraid to say this, We're afraid to say that
people are feeling muzzled and silenced. But in addition to that,
I'd say the biggest issues are immigration in the border.
I think people are horrified and really scared about the
surge of people coming into our country, and it seems
like we have an administration who doesn't even care to
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try to address it or stop it. I mean, Biden
didn't even go to the border for two years right after.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
What do you remember it though?
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Good point.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I mean that's where we are today. I know it's
not it's like whoa, how can we be here? But
that's where we are. And I think that I think
we were all really disappointed after twenty twenty, but then
to get slammed again in twenty two. When do the
Republicans and the conservative side, when do we wake up
and say elections have to be done in a different
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way and be honest about the fact that there is
a ground game going on with Democrats that is not
happening on the Republican side. You and I have talked
about this. The Republicans are great at having gatherings and
saying come and see me, but we're not great at
going out and seeing them. How do we change that?
How do we I mean, what will walk Away do
in twenty four that we're going to see a bigger
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technology game, at bigger ground game. How do we win
over those young people? You are like, really, I see
you as one of the cool people on the conservative side.
So how do we do it?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
So my plan and the plan of my team going
into the next year and a half is this, We've
identified five to seven states that we feel like are
really important to a drive. I mean, all fifty states
are important, but there's going to be five to seven
states realistically that we have to try to maximize our
impact and our presence while we're there. And as far
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as I'm concerned, we walk Away needs to do in
these five to seven states in the next year and
a half is really make an impact with minorities, really
make an impact with gen z And what that looks
like for us is trying to as our budget allows
relentlessly go into these states, do things like town halls
and live debates, And I want to get into not
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just colleges, but also high schools if possible, and be
talking to seventeen and eighteen year olds who are going
to be coming out into the world and voting for
the very first time. Many of these people gen Z
people are voting, I think, in larger numbers than young
people ever have before. But as we know, young people
tend to by default be very liberal and I think
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very not indoctrinated, but I think swept into this false
romanticism of what it means to be a liberal and
somebody who cares about going out and fighting for social
justice and fighting for gun control and things like that,
without really I think a proper understanding of the ways
in which they're being used and manipulated. So I want
to be talking to minority communities and young people and
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trying to share my Walkaway story and share the presence
of the walk Away movement and that it's available for
them and that they should get involved and be a
part of that. But in addition to that, I also
want to really educate myself and my team about what
we can be doing that the Democrats are already doing
in terms of ballot collecting and in terms of reaching
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people to make sure that every vote is collected and counted.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
We're talking about this a lot as conservatives.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
We're now beginning to have this conversation about not just
voting on election day and also where it's legal to
ballot collect and be involved in that. The problem, as
I see it is I don't see anybody really effectively
telling people how to do it.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Well, that's what I was going to say. I mean,
we're the key word there is talking. We need to
have people really researching how to do this, and I
think that's you and I have had this conversation. I
know you're interested in doing that, and that's why I
say Republicans need to get out there. I mean, it's
important to have these events for sure, to bring people
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together to make sure people have the opportunity to hear,
but it's also about going to people and getting that
to them and having that voter contact in a different way.
And I think groups like walk Away have such an
opportunity to go out there and do this and be
running these issues campaigns in a way that you've heard
things in a different than we have. You just said something,
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you said, not indoctrinated, but like romanticized. I swept away,
you said, And I thought that's so interesting, because sometimes
the way we use words is offensive, and nobody wants
to be told they were indoctrinated. Like you, you're completely brainwashed.
You have no idea what you're doing, you know, I mean,
but that really is what it sounds like. And so
of course young people are gonna be like, back off,
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I'm fine, But the idea of being swept into something,
it's really true. We were at an event the other
day and a woman said, this generation wants to be
a part of something, and that's like their signature is
I want to stand for a cause. But when you
ask them what cause, they said, well, I don't know.
If you want to stand for a cause, you can
be swept into it. But we're making it sound like
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they're just walking robots.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Right well, and sometimes in a way that can be
the case. I mean, when you see things like Jordan
Neely in New York City who ended up passing away
after being restrained on the subway. And now you've got
like dozens of young people throwing themselves on subway tracks,
in New York City. I was watching that and I
was thinking to myself, this is a very stupid thing
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to do, and for a cause that is illogical. However,
I'm so envious of the passion that young people have
that we have none of the in the conservative movement.
I mean, for the love of God, you know, they
they raided mar A Lago. They came and rounded up
a president of the United States and indicted him on
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bogus charges, you know, while he's actually running for president.
They have come into suburban neighborhoods with military grade vehicles
and rounded up old people on misdemeanor charges for walking
inside the capitol. And it's stunning silence on the conservative
moment for all of it. But you've got something as
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ridiculous as a person who got on the subway and
started threatening people and was restrained and tragically died. And
young people are willing to throw themselves on sub way
tracks for this person. And we saw, I mean, it
was hideous what happened in twenty twenty. But look at
the passion and the energy of these young people to
go out and protest, and even more than protest for
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George Floyd. Imagine if we could harness that energy and
get those young people in that passion geared toward patriotism
and causes that are actually important to preserving our freedom
and our liberty and our constitution. If there's a way
that we can harness that energy and direct it towards
something that's positive and productive, that's something that I want
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to be a part of, and that's something that excites me.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
And it should be a place that we're providing to
young people that were not I think that's interesting because
if you look back at twenty twenty, I mean, look
at Minneapolis, struggling minority owned businesses endured over more than
a billion dollars of damage in Minneapolis alone, and those
young people probably didn't realize that they were out there.
What they were doing was also allowing a CD side
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of protesting that turns into rioting to go in and
destroy these businesses. And then who was coming in to
actually bring the businesses back. There wasn't anyone. You know that,
and we don't talk about that, but we there is
a way to get out there and to be passionate
and give give young people home to be passionate and
stand for something. But maybe that is something that we
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are lackluster in.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
It's something that we're lacklustering. But we're going to need
to do everything that we can as soon as possible
to figure it out, because, you know, I think that
what we're doing is not working, and as we speak
right now, we're falling into traps that are being set
by the left. I actually feel like what happened last
night at the CNN town hall with President Trump was
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almost the perfect metaphor for what's happening to Republicans and
conservatives as we go into this election cycle. You've got
this rabid leftist who is trying desperately to control the
narrative to the point of interjecting, speaking over, and then
you know, when President Trump was finished answering, she would
summarize what he had just said, but she would do
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it completely inaccurately. And so basically, what you're saying is
that you don't care about women.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Got it?
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Okay, Basically what you're saying is that you know, but
you don't care. I was looking at that and I
was thinking to myself, this is we're being baited and.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Trapped all the time.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I think, oh, yes, that's why she was hammering away
so hard at the subjects like abortion in January sixth,
and we're always in a position of defending ourselves and
defending ourselves on issues that aren't even real or true.
It's a left wing narrative of something that didn't even happen,
and we're constantly like flailing around going like, uh, but
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you know, I think I'm sorry to say. Look at
you're conservative. You can be pro life, and I have
admiration for that. I respect why you feel the way
you feel, but you've got to we're at a moment
of great reckoning where you have to make a decision
if do you want to save this country or not,
and you want to preserve the America that you grew
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up in or not, because if you keep hammering away
at this abortion issue or a handful of other issues,
we're going to lose.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
You know, it's interesting that you say that, because obviously
that was the issue in Michigan, and certainly abortion affected
my race significantly, and then coming out of that has
been I really feel like I was put in that
position because it gave me a way to talk to
people about this, because I think that there's this feeling
that if you give an inch on that you're not faithful,
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that you don't you're not loving. You know, there's a
position on the pro life side that you have to
be zero. You know, we live in the absolute on
the pro life side. And I was talking to some
women over the weekend and I said, look at what
you could have done in Michigan. We could have gone
from twenty four to twenty six weeks to twelve weeks,
and we could have considered that a major celebration, a
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major win. But you're not going to legislate this in
a way that you're going to get what you want
because the people aren't there. This is a culture issue.
So why don't we celebrate wins for life? And if
Michigan someday goes from thirty thousand abortions to twenty five
thousand abortions, we've done something right on the ground. There
are other ways of being pro life. That doesn't mean
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it doesn't mean that you're giving that up. But come
around with support for families, come around with support for
young women, make it make it amazing to have a family.
But understand that the wins on the legislative side are
going to be going to I mean, twelve weeks would
be in line with other Western countries, but instead Michigan
got up to the moment of birth. And so do
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you want to have a complete loss or do you
want to celebrate the small wins?
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Exactly right.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yeah, And it's things like that are being perceived and
they're being spun by the left as a war on
women and a war on rights, and that's terrifying to
a lot of people. Es actually when you know, a lot
of people are misinformed about these issues, and Republicans don't
do a great job of counter messaging the attacks that
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are on us.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
But to your point, I feel like you were starting
to say.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
For all the you know, the energy that's put into
the pro life movement, I don't really see a lot
of great alternatives that are being offered to people. Like
I actually know in the state of Wisconsin, the adoption
process is actually very difficult for a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
They don't make that easy.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
And I'm working right now with some people on the
ground in Wisconsin because they're saying, you know, we're we're
pushing this like anti abortion message.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
But then with no alternatives.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Yeah, but then we're also making it impossible for young
women to go through the adoption process. In fact, if
I recall correctly, the woman out of Wisconsin was telling
me that it's actually like required for the woman to
go to like a hearing and basically announce that she
tends to give the baby up for It's like this
hideous process. If you want to encourage women to carry
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their babies and put either keep them or put them
up for adoption, you have to somehow make that process
very enticing and appealing and easy.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Don't you think the left makes
everything seem enticing and easy and we make everything feel
really hard. That's like the lesson that I've taken from
running for office is what are we doing to speak
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life into people to in all different areas. Whether it
is to be passionate about the border and to be
passionate about what's happening and how much harm there is
at the border, to be passionate about getting fentanyl off
the streets, to get crime off the streets, all of
those things. We're angry, we've become angry, but you've always
been to me, You've always been this like really positive light,
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and you have always I mean our conversations. We've obviously
chatted quite long today, but that's because our conversations are
always filled with hope. And I think that that's why
you have been able to go through this dark period
where they've tried to take you down. The left has said,
we lost one of our own, and we will take
him down. But you've been able to continue to thrive
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through that and be a shining light in this darkness.
So I really appreciate that you've been able to do that.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Thank you, tutor.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
And I will say I'm rarely bothered by what the
left does because I already made my peace long ago
with the fact that the left wishes to destroy anything
that they see as a threat to their ideology or
their agenda. I'm in their way, so of course they're
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going to lie about me. Of course they're going to
try to get me banned from big tech platforms and
from banks and things like that.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
That's that's what they do.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
But when I get upset or I start feeling hopeless,
or I start feeling like the path forward is just
too difficult, it's because of conservatives. That's the truth.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
I mean, I that's where I.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Sometimes just beat my head against the wall and say,
can I do this another day? Because there is not
an equal and opposite reaction on the right to what
the left does. And I'm sorry to say that we
were at this point where like enough people are just
not uncomfortable yet, and I almost am at the point
where I'm kind of rooting for things to get a
little worse because I'm like, it's people are not uncomfortable
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enough yet that they realize, no, it's not.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
We're not talking to everyone else. We're talking to you.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Literally, person who's listening right now, I'm talking to you.
You are the person who needs to get involved. You're
the person who needs to speak up. You're the person
who needs to show up when we do events.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Or come together. Is your ego? Is your ego? Do
you have enough space in your ego to come together
with other people in the conservative movement? Because that's been
something I've found has been tough.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Oh yeah, I mean, that's that's a whole nother thing.
I mean, that's so if you're talking about like the
average everyday conservative on the ground who's just working their job,
living their life, doing their thing. To me, the biggest
issue there is complacency and not getting involved. If you're
talking about the people on the right who have made
a career out of being activists or influencers or creating
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organizations that espouse that they're trying to, you know, save
America's youth or you know, get people involved in whatever.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
No, it's hideous. It's absolutely hideous.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
The level of pettiness, competition, using funds and power and
proximity to powerful people to try to stomp out effective
grassroots organizers and activists and keep them from rising up
because God forbid, someone might get the spotlight for five
minutes and take it away from you, or God forbid,
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a potential donor might see this person and say, I'm
really interested in what this person's doing too. Then that
becomes a threat to people that they might lose. It's horrible.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
That's been the success on the left, though. It is
the organizations that go out and meet people where they are.
Like I said, and I think that's what you're doing.
And I love that that's what you're doing. And I
love that you have ignored that those people that have
been trying to hold you back, or even the people
on our side that have not given you the love
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that you deserve and I appreciate that you keep going,
and I am excited to watch what you're doing next,
and I want to keep talking. So I want you
to come back and tell us how things are going,
especially through twenty four. It's going to be very interesting
to see what's happening. But I just I'm so grateful
for you coming on today. Brandon Strock, make sure you
follow him. He has the walk Away campaign. Tell them
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again how they go to walk Away Social.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
So it's available on any Android devices and any iOS devices.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
So if you're an iPhone or an iPad or an
Android tablet or phone.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
User, just go to Google play Store for Android users,
go to the Apple App Store for Apple users, type
in walk Away Social. It takes you know, fifteen seconds
to load the app, and then it takes about thirty
seconds to sign up and create an account. And once
you create an account, what we want you to do
is just join our different groups. We automatically join you
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to the testimonial group and the discussion group, but join
your state group and get involved in your state group.
You know, make sure that you're in there interacting with
people in the discussion group, but most importantly, share your
story go into the testimonial group, upload your video or
your written testimonials, share your story, let people know.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
And then tell other people. I keep telling people.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Text five of your friends and tell five of your
friends to get on Walkaway Social and share their stories
and get in their state groups, and let's share the community.
We're also available for people who don't like to use apps.
We're available on the web at walkawaysocial dot com. Just
like Facebook or anything else. You can use it on
your browser, your computer walkawaysocial dot com. But our mobile
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apps are really great, so I encourage people to load
the op. Get on there and every day open it.
You don't have to spend two hours on there, but
every day open it for five minutes, watch a video
and share it, share it on Twitter, Facebook, and true social.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Get her anywhere, and let's rebuild this movie.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Awesome. Brandon Strok, thank you so much. Thank you, and
thank you all for joining me on the Tutor Dixon
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