December 17, 2024 • 38 mins
We talk to Kristy’s best friend about the impact all this had on her life. Jared fills us in on the multitude of other lies he learned his wife had told him in the aftermath of the “deaths”, their final words, and attempt to finally answer the question.........why?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Jared continues to return donations given to him and Christy
after the fire, yet many of those donations are being
returned back to him and his name only after the
community has learned the truth about Christie. And while the
return donations help soften the blow of the trauma that
Jared's endured, the aftermath of Christie's lives and actions continue
(00:23):
to haunt him.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I called her work, so she was supposedly this regional
manager making all kinds of money they're given. I'm on
COVID pay all this stuff. I call into her work.
I explained the entire story of because I call in
specifically to get myself off of her as health insurance
and to tell her company, hey, there were no children
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when the fire happened. They stuck the children on the
health insurance without filling out the proper paperwork. They kind
of just pushed it through to help out.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Jared knew his children were on Christie's health insurance. This
wasn't a surprise.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Oh yeah, I got papers in the mail saying, hey,
we have here's the son's name, the daughter's name, here's
their cards.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
But what he didn't know was the story Christy told
her coworkers about the deaths of their twins.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
She's asking a million questions and it was weird questions like, hey,
I'm sorry to hear about what happened. Before I even
said that there weren't any kids. So I'm like, what
do you what did you hear? She goes, oh, well,
your wife had these kids last week. I'm like, what
do you mean. I'm like, I'm dumbfounded. Her boss is
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who actually who I was on the phone with, goes, yeah,
she called us from in the hospital. It was like
two days before the fire, and she's going through and
sorry to hear about your daughter passing away in the hospital.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
The more Jared listens, the stranger and more unsettling this
conversation becomes.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
And then she gets to the boy, Hey, we're so
sorry to hear what happened to your son because the
smoke inhalation that happened in the fire. What And at
this point I'm like, buck stop, we gotta step back.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Christy had told her coworkers that their daughter had died
in the hospital and that their son had died in
the fire.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
They passed away at two completely different points. We got
to bring the son home and he died of the
smoke inhalation. It's mind blown. How do you make this
stuff up?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Jared continued. Speaking to Christie's box.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
He finds out that she wasn't a high level executive
that she claimed.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Rather, she was a secretary.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Just like a snowball effect that the lies continue to
come out, and I didn't see any of that. Maybe
it was because I wasn't looking. Maybe I was just
glazing over it. But I don't know how someone could
pull that off.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
As husband and wife, Jared would get all the details
of what came with Christy's stressful, high profile position.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
It was like, hey, I had to deal with this
guy quitting the warehouse problem. Like it was so methodically
thought out. It blows my mind, it really does.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Marriages are supposed to be built on trust. Jared felt
that his was, tragically it was not in more.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Ways than one.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Beyond faking a pregnancy, Christy had another giant secret she
kept from Jared that throughout their entire relationship, she was
seeing another man, her ex fiance Tom. I'm trishaa Fotch.
I'm a writer, director, actor, and federal criminal defense attorney.
(03:50):
I'm going to tell you a story that's all too
real about love, lies and the lens people will go
to for attention. It's a story that will leave you
questioning everything you thought you knew about truth, about reality,
and about what happens when the two collide in the
most unimaginable way. From Audio Up.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
And Just Sweet Press Productions, This is the Unborn.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Jenny recounts how Christy kept her conversations with Tom discreet,
at least on Snapchat.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
One day, I was laying on her bed and we
were listening to music, and I wanted to turn a
song on her phone and I saw that Jenny popped
up and I'm Jenny, and I didn't send her a Snapchat.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
So.
Speaker 6 (04:39):
I opened it and it was her expancee.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Jenny wasn't the only one that picked up on Christie's affair.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
The small town rumor mill also had noticed.
Speaker 7 (04:49):
Her ex boyfriend's truck was parked of the house or
something one day and he was just sitting in this truck.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
He wasn't even in the hound.
Speaker 8 (04:57):
His neighbors called him one time and that dude that
she was banging with in his driveway.
Speaker 9 (05:01):
That car they bought was brand new, and somehow it
has twenty some thousand miles on it and they've only
had it for four months, So how did that happen
if you're just going to work and you know she's
a professional liar.
Speaker 8 (05:14):
Neighbors took pictures of him, and it was our actiance
that the other dude that she was still shagging.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
We don't know why Tom was just sitting in Jared
and Christie's driveway. Potentially there was an innocent explanation for that,
but we do know something else he was up to.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
The ax was sending her money twenty four to seven,
was always sending her money, and I had said to
her multiple times, you need to stop that, like you
need to block him, delete him, do whatever.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Like just be done.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
She couldn't. I don't know what is so in here
about him that she wants, but it's it's gross and
I don't like it.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Melissa, Jared's attorney offered an explanation for why Tom was
constantly sent money to Christy. It was because Christy told
Tom that he, and not Jared, was the father to
the twins.
Speaker 10 (06:09):
I have the text messages in my file between Christy
and another man in which she clearly states that this
other man is the father to the twins and that
Jared has decided to do the up standing right thing
and claim to be the father.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
There are volumes of text messages between Christy and Tom,
evidence that.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Painted a picture of Christy as a woman who.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Was not only faking a pregnancy, but was claiming two
different men Jared and Tom, were the father.
Speaker 10 (06:42):
Just think what she could have done if she.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Was up to good.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Melissa gave us full access to the file.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
There were numerous sexting photos that Christy sent to Tom,
multiple Zell receipts of Tom sending Christy money, and the
receipts come with messages like want me or not or
if you ever need anything, dear tell me. But one
text exchange really stands out. It turns out that Tom
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was also engaged and expecting a child with his new fiance.
This is that text exchange between Christy and Tom, a
week before Christie's due date.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Christy, you chose this. If you would have chose me
months ago, me and her would be having another baby
and you would have had what you've been begging for.
You can't blame me for living my life when I
was thrown to the side.
Speaker 7 (07:35):
I don't beg you You've said all these things about
our kids that I'm carrying, and that shit ain't true.
Just literally leave me alone for good. Don't worry about
our kids. I'm so sick over this. Fuck you, I
don't even know if there's a word for you.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Me not telling you isn't live. It's not your business.
I'm just trying to be here for you, for the
kids you're about to have.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Christy and Tom are because she's just found out that
his new fiance is also pregnant, even though all this
time he knew that the twins she was pregnant with
were his.
Speaker 7 (08:12):
It is my business. Leave me alone. Go be there
for your pregnant Beyonce.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
It's not your fucking business. I don't know where you think.
Speaker 7 (08:21):
That I should tell her that these are your two
kids that I've been keeping a fucking secret for you.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
You chose that, You chose that when you chose him,
But go ahead, take your screenshots and cause trouble and
ruin the days leading up to the kids' birth.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Christy clearly becomes agitated in her following responses, firing back
with all caps and exclamation points.
Speaker 7 (08:44):
Oh so you do want me to tell her that
our kids are due next week, and you've been meeting
up with me. Okay, so now threatened being a father
to our children. I don't need you to be their dad.
I'll take care, ask for child support, and move on
with my life.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
I wasn't written in anything.
Speaker 7 (09:01):
You said start shit and ruin the birth of our
kids in a week. That's a threat.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
I said, ruin the day is leading up to it,
because it would we would be fine, and it won't
be as happy for us when the day comes.
Speaker 7 (09:14):
I'm so Sigrid. Now you're insane. Leave me alone.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
There's a lot to unpack regarding Christy's headspace.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
She's already carrying on with this monumental lie with Jared
and his entire family, and yet she somehow has the
bandwidth to carry this lie along with Tom as well.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I find out that two weeks after I proposed, there
was a message from her ex saying, hey, you better
treat her right. As soon as the kids are born,
I will be getting a paternity tests. I know they're mine,
so don't screw it up.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Tom had direct message Jared on Instagram, but Tom and
Jared do not follow each other on Instagram, and Jared
did not get the message, that is, until he thought
to check his DMS after he'd served Christy with a
noment papers.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
And I hear you proposed, and I hear she is
going to say yes, since she was waiting to see
what I did, even though I was told you two
were going to make things work for the kids Friday
night when she was with me in my hotel. Seriously,
best of luck, be civil for the kids. Actually fuck
her and she won't wander. And when the kids are born,
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I will be asking for a paternity test. She was
breaking up with you for us until the pregnancy, so
I'm told anyway, and it doesn't matter what it takes.
You need to make the next eight months of Christy's
life as easy as possible. I don't know if she
can handle another dramatic experience.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
It's hard to process that Christy was pushing this lie
on two fronts. Like most things Christy did, we were
left asking why was Tom an alternate backup in the
event her life.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
With Jared imploded. Did Christy simply.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Lie to Tom in order to collect money from him
for the children that did not exist, or was Tom
a part of Christie's endgame all along? And Jared was
a placeholder until Tom sorted out his domestic situation with
his pregnant fiance. With two different men in her life,
it's hard to know which man Christy actually wanted to
(11:27):
be with. Here's Jenny and her mom with their thoughts
on Christy's endgame.
Speaker 11 (11:32):
I think it's the money.
Speaker 12 (11:33):
I think she was trying to steal a baby and
sell it for the money. I think she was on
the computer, and I think when she got on that computer,
she was chit chatting with someone from another stake and
was trying to set it up to have that thing
to steal a baby.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
She wanted a family.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
I don't know. I know she wanted a little girl
so bad, and the more that I thought about it,
and the more that I thought about everything else, she
would go to any length to get a little girl.
At this point, I feel like including possibly stealing a baby.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Do you think she's capable of kidnapping a baby?
Speaker 4 (12:16):
You forgive her the chance, do you.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Think she would go through with it?
Speaker 6 (12:21):
Probably?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
We decided that we wanted to see if we could
try to get more information about what went on for
the eighteen to twenty hours that Christie was in the
hospital prior to calling Jared to ask him to come
pick her up.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I have to say.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
I've never done an ambush style interview before, although there's
no plan to ambush, I guess I just mean unscheduled
interview before.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
So my adrenaline is feeling a little nervous.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
But we're going to see if we can try to
get any more answers.
Speaker 10 (12:47):
My name is Tresiana Boch. This is Frank Wall.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
You're with iHeartRadio and we're producing a segment, a new
segment on an episode that occurred in his hospital in
the semer twenty twenty.
Speaker 8 (12:59):
We were one, I.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Mean, if there was a public information officer on duties
that would be available for comments.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
You who started to do officers a very unlaboration spor Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Thank you for.
Speaker 12 (13:15):
Good.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
How were you for?
Speaker 1 (13:16):
We just asked the check in and she said to
ask you we are My name is Trecila Bonge.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
This is Frank Wall.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
We're with iHeartRadio producing a new segment and a portion
of the segment revolves around an incident that took place
here in December twenty twenty, and we were wondering if
there was a public information officer on.
Speaker 10 (13:37):
Who you would be available.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
For comment today?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
More than likely?
Speaker 9 (13:41):
Now, okay, and the wait you think kind of the
skeletons group.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
Okay, the best thing to do is would be a
callback morow.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Okay, we'll come back to morow. Okay, who would you say,
speak to patient relations for.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Aod It actually makes you as the Blood heroes.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
By the way, it's not it's a negative story. It's
a positive story.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Guine Hospital, I who you've talked to?
Speaker 10 (14:07):
Did you work here in December twenty?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Could you answer anything?
Speaker 8 (14:13):
Nothing? Nothing?
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Not even sit through the questions and decide what you
could answer and what then? Okay, I know nothing. So
we just got back in the car. We were definitely
turned away by the hospital. We spoke to four people,
two at the front desk, who referred us to the
police officer and security guard who were standing just to
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the left of the table, and we asked if we
could speak to the public Information officer, which is the
PIO public information officer on duty about an incident that
took place in the hospital in December twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
They told us nobody was.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Available, gave us a card and a number to call
to contact and I was trying to grease him a
little bit to see if he would speak, and we
asked him when did he start working at the hospital.
He said twenty twenty. And we threw out there that
the incident makes the hospital police look really good. It's favorable,
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it's not negative, just to see if I could get
anything out of him, and so I said, it revolves
around incident where a woman tried to take a baby
and you guys successfully thwarted her from allowing that to happen.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
And his eyes look right like absolutely he was there.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Absolutely, He just.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Had this super guilty look on his face like he
was dying to talk.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
His eyes I could just see the wheels in his
head turning.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
I pressed just a little harder, and instead of saying
no comment, he just said nothing because I think he
was worried that if he started to talk, he was
going to say what he remembered, and he did not
want to do that. So we will call on Monday
and see if we can speak to the PIO. We
made several attempts to reach the man whose name and
number we were provided, as well as left several messages.
(16:13):
It turns out he wasn't the PIO, but rather the
head of public safety at the hospital.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
He never returned our calls.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
If Christy did intend to kidnap a baby as part
of her ending, it was never meant to be. If
she intended to return to tom that didn't work out either. Meanwhile,
Jared was in the process of trying to annul his
marriage to Christy.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
What avenues did she have left? Not many.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
There was a couple rumors going around, and there was
a worn out for her arrest baby napping from the
actual hospital itself. But I don't know how believable that is,
how much truth there is to that just hearsay? Yeah,
I would say it was hearsay, honestly, and again this
is coming through the annoyment that she actually went and
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fought me on was then we had to get a
couple of continuances, reason being sheed she didn't get a
lawyer until the day before. Her mother actually wanted to
meet a fifty one fifty her and put her in
a mental hospital. I find out through the continuance she
asked for she decided to go into I don't know
if she was fifty one to fifty by her mother
or if she voluntarily went into this treatment. Center Center.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Jared's attorney, Melissa, couldn't proceed at the pace she wanted
with the annulment because Christie entered a medical treatment center.
Speaker 10 (17:35):
She was in Florida at an intense treatment in which
she was not even permitted to contact her attorney for
two to three weeks, and then she was moving to Chattanooga,
Tennessee for further treatment. And when she moved to Tennessee
is when she would be able to participate in the hearing.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
After everything they went through, it seems that Christy got
the help that she needs. Personally, I applaud her for that.
It's extremely commendable. It's unfortunate, however, how many lives that
up ended, how many friendships destroyed, for this moment to
finally happen.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Here's Jenny.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Her mom had actually messaged me and said like, thank
you for being here for my daughter, and she's going
to get the help that she needs basically, and I
was like, what is happening? Like that day that she left,
her mom called her and said, you're going to go
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to jail, Like you're going to go to jail if
you don't come with us right now. And I'm like thinking, like, oh,
They're just saying that because they just want to put
you in a mental place because you just lost two children.
That's what I was thinking, And come to find out
that wasn't even it.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
It's clear Christy needed the help.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Sheila feared her daughter would go to jail if she
didn't leave with her immediately to the treatments and her
Jenny had her own theories why. She thinks Sheila was
afraid that local authorities would arrest Christie if she stuck around.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
It could be that it could be the money. It
could have been the faking everything. It could have been
because they faked it in the donations of the fire,
of the babies, it could have been, it could have
been all that.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
The fire raised suspicions with everyone involved in the story.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
For Jenny, it was no different.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
I think she was getting rid of everything that reminded
her of those babies, the room, anything, just the house
in general.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Well what do you think?
Speaker 2 (19:36):
What if?
Speaker 3 (19:37):
What if Jared died in that fire?
Speaker 6 (19:39):
So that's the that's the million other questions.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Jenny had a final thought to share in regard to
the fire.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
You never asked me about the ring.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I don't know anything about what ring, No wedding. No,
it was missing.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
I couldn't find it.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Do you think she pawned it?
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Yeah, or she has it or she had it somewhere.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
It was expensive. He paid it in cash because it
was like last.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Minute, like like they are closing type thing, and he
paid in cash.
Speaker 12 (20:21):
From what I read, and she said, there was one
plan it in the bathroom where the fire started.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
This whatever, there was a fake ring.
Speaker 12 (20:28):
There was a fake ring that a real ring wouldn't burn,
a real like it was a silver, it was a
silver whatever.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Set diamond set and he specifically said the way that
this was all set, like the diamond on it, like
it wouldn't it wouldn't burn.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Story of somebody planted a fake ring in the bathroom
of the house before it burnt down so that it
would seem like that was the real ring.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
And that's what happened to it.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
She did it herself, or she did it herself, or
she pawned the ring beforehand and bought that one off
the Amazon.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
With Christy being forced to leave Avella by her mother,
she would have her final face to face moment with Jenny.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
She just kept on saying to me from the time
we left my actual apartment to the stairwell, she said,
you're still going to be my best friend. You're still
my friend, Like she just kept on asking me that.
I just kept on saying, yeah, of course, I'm going
to still be your friend. Like I like, you're gonna
get through this. I'll talk to you whenever I can't,
you know, like every day.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Christie's mother arrived, it was time to say goodbye, and.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Then you've never spoken to her again.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
She actually called me.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
In between Christy leaving and calling Jenny from her treatment center,
Jenny was contacted by Jared's sister. His sister told Jenny
the entire truth about what happened with Christy. Jenny was
in shock and really hurt. That's when Christy called her.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
From treatment and she was like, everything okay.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
And I was holding back to her because I had
just knocked out everything, and I'm like, yeah, you know,
like I just I reset my phone and I made
up a story of how I reset my phone and
how all my locations just her off for everyone, and
she was like okay. And after that conversation she said,
(22:24):
I loved you, and I didn't even say it back
to her honestly, and I hung up, and then I
have a message from her mom saying, you know, like
she's going to go get the help that she needs.
But she didn't exactly put it in that term.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
But I think that Christie knew when you guys had
that final phone call, that you knew that everything was
a lie, and she just didn't have the guts to
say I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
What makes you think that because.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
She never tried to reach out over.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Again, Christie's mom wanted her to get into an inpatient
mental facility.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
There's two to look at it.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Non cynically, Sheila wants her daughter to get the help
that she needs, but strategically, entering a long term treatment
facility effectively postpones any annulment, which Jared was desperately.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Trying to get done.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
It also provides cover from any potential criminal charges that
could have come out of all of this. Jared's lawyer,
Melissa felt the challenges of Christie's abrupt departure from a
vienna she ran.
Speaker 10 (23:30):
And we had a very difficult time moving forward because
I couldn't locate her. We were very thankful when she
retained an attorney because then I had a point of contact,
and then that attorney filed the petition for a continuance
and gave us some additional information as to where she was,
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and I believe I even requested proof that where she
stated she was. I said, I don't believe you. I
want to know exactly where it is, and I want
documentation that that's where she's at.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Christy's location was uncovered, she had legal counsel. Jared and
Melissa were ready to proceed in earnest, but Christy was
ready to fight.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
She wore her money. She's like, hey, I lost all
this stuff, and she put astronomico amounts of value on
these items that she lost. She felt entitled to fifty
percent of that.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
When Jared's lawyer, Melissa realized Christie was claiming items lost
in the fire, let's just say she wasn't having it.
Speaker 10 (24:34):
Essentially said, you're ridiculous, this isn't going to happen.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
I was a pit bull.
Speaker 10 (24:41):
I was not going to back down. There was nobody
that was going to take advantage of Jared while I
was with so I spoke with her counsel. She had
no idea. She was oblivious. She believed that Christy was pregnant.
And I kind of laughed in her face. It was
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all over her phone, and I'm like no, and I'm like,
I have the proof, and I gave her some of
the backstory, and she indicated to me, well, Christie is
willing to go through with Yanoma, but she wants her stuff.
She wants her money.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Even Christie's own counsel was in the dark about her
lafe and deceit.
Speaker 10 (25:23):
I once again laughed in her face, and I told
her about the fire that go fund me, the money
that she had taken, what my client had done.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
With the money.
Speaker 10 (25:34):
I mean, if there's anybody that, in my opinion, I
like decide for, it's the good guy and the underdog.
And Jared was one hundred percent the good guy and
this matter. So I was going to be a pipole.
I was not going to let her get anything. So
she provided me with a list of things. I spoke
(25:56):
with Jared about it, and of course it was all
in the fire and she had indicated her council indicated
she wanted the money that he received for those items. Well,
you know what, Jared didn't claim those items, so he
never received any funds from those so there was no
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funds for him to give. In fact, he was working
his way to pay back people on the GoFundMe from
the money she took, so he was paying out a
pocket for money. In my opinion, she stole just to
make things right. There was no way I was letting
her get any more money.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
No way.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Jared received his annulment on his birthday, and he couldn't
have asked for a better gift.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
I actually ended up getting the annulment on my birthday.
I wasn't even worried about the birthday. I'm a free
man again. It's done it over with. And this was
drug out for four and a half months, and I'm
just psyching the pressure and relief. I felt, Hey, I
can move on with my life. It's my life again.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
The hearing was conducted over zoom. Jared had his camera on.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Christy didn't I have.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
My camera on? Once I hear that it was going
to be ruled in my favor, I'm sitting there smiling
at the camera. I know she can see me. I
guess I just wanted to kind of rub it in
her face, like, hey, you're a terrible person.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
But she did not turn her camera on.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
She'd never turned her camera on.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Did you hear a voice?
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Oh? Yes, And I actually had my mother in there
with me, which what a what a complete I don't
even know how to describe it. I've never seen my
mom so emotional other than the day.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Jared's mother, Kathy isn't big on showing emotions, positive or.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Negative, but she was so happy and relieved. She was
more relieved than I was. And it was in having
her friend be my lawyer for the annulment that just
kind of made a bitter sweet to her. It was
nice to see my mom finally smile again.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
And Jared was thrilled that this show of emotion was
a joyful one.
Speaker 8 (28:10):
I was relieved and glad it went through so we
didn't move on with our lives.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
And it was a true genuine smile and being happy
and relieved. And so I'm like, hey, let's go to
breakfast before the annoyment. She goes, absolutely not, I'll throw up.
I'm like, well what, I'm like, Well, that's that's all right, mom,
I'll sit here with you.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I was able to review the annulment paperwork, and in it,
Christy had to confess for once the.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Truth on the record. She ended up saying there were
never any children, and that was that solidified it to me,
to everyone in the courts, the law, there were never
any children and everything was a lie.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
It was satisfying for Jared's law Melissa as well.
Speaker 10 (29:02):
One thing I really wanted to ask her because we
had to set the groundwork in the hearing as to
what the deception was, and she had never admitted to
him that it wasn't true. So I point asked her,
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were there any kids? And she paused, she said no,
And that, in my mind or my belief, is the
first time he actually heard it from her mom. Because
I did not want this lingering in his mind at all.
I did not want there to be any question in
the future whether he made the right decision or not.
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I wanted her to admit that she did to him.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Melissa proved Christie's deceit. She helped Jared be free from
this nightmare. And even though she couldn't prove some other
things about Christy, it didn't stop her from having her
own opinions on the specific the fire.
Speaker 10 (30:02):
Do you think she set the buyer? Yes, one hundred percent,
because of the history of the prior fires, and I
think this woman could do anything and I think it
probably helped with her whole storyline because if they had
stayed together, she could have built upon the trauma of
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the fire and how it affected her and therefore impacted
the babies, which led to their death. And if you're
going to build sympathy, I mean house fire, baby deaths.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Melissa was convinced that Christie set that fire.
Speaker 6 (30:43):
She was also.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Convinced that Jared was the victim of a crime. Do
you consider yourself the victim of a crime?
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (30:51):
After everything Jared endured, it would be up to him
to decide if criminal charges against Christy was a fight
he wanted to pursue.
Speaker 10 (30:58):
He could have filed private criminal complaint at a magistrate's
office and then it would go to the DA directly,
and the DA would then determine to move forward. But
he didn't need that additional battle. He needed closure and
for it to be over. And I don't know that
he ever wanted to punish her. He just wanted it over.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
When Jared and I sat down, it was four and
a half months after the births and two weeks after
his annulment was final.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
I expressed to him that I was really glad to
see that he was back on his feet.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
What makes you think I'm back on my feet. I'm
not the same person that I was before this happened.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Jared wasn't the only one that thought he was forever
changed by all this. It's a sentiment shared by many
people in Jared's life, including his mom, dad and mom.
Speaker 8 (31:54):
I think there was going to be trust issues there,
and hopefully will grow as a as a person. But
I definitely think there's gonna be some issues there.
Speaker 9 (32:07):
Well, I think he's in a good frame of mind
and you have to learn from this kind of stuff. Yeah,
it just doesn't happen on TV. I guess he can't
think of every girlfriend he's ever going to have like
this one. You know this probably Well, let's hope it
never happens to him again.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
You know.
Speaker 9 (32:25):
I tell him what I think, and you know, right
or wrong. I hope it helps him some.
Speaker 10 (32:29):
You know.
Speaker 11 (32:30):
I don't think he lets on to us how much
it actually affected him. I think he like puts on
a great face, but I think it really did affect him.
So I don't know that he's letting people know how
that affected it. I think it's going to take him
a while to personally be able to trust again. So
I think he just needs to heal before he tries
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to date.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
As our initial time together drew to a close, I
wondered if Jared had any advice for people out there
after experiencing what he endured.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
That's a tough one. Don't take do your research, and
I hate to say it, but question these big decisions
in your life. Don't say Okay, well she's or someone's pregnant.
Question it. Get proof, and I think COVID made that
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a lot easier to pull off. Hopefully no one ever
has to go through this again. I wouldn't wish it
on my worst enemy. But do your research.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
There's no rule book on how to navigate such trauma,
especially when it's so confusing and doesn't seem to make
any sense. Jared and those closest to him coked in
their own ways. His parents Kathy and David were hit
especially hard.
Speaker 11 (33:48):
Oh.
Speaker 8 (33:48):
I was devastated. I just couldn't. I couldn't understand. I
couldn't wrap my head around it. I had no idea
what happened to.
Speaker 9 (33:58):
People were coming up with adolences. Some know, some don't,
Some some know the story. I mean, you got to
tell this ft up story, you know, probably two hundred
times to everybody that walks in the door, because they're
all friends. The relatives live all around us here at
Oh my wife was.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Ecstatic, ready to be a grandma.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 9 (34:18):
She cried for two weeks after.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
This, and he told him the whole story, and uh yeah,
we were still in the hospital and just in disbelief.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Ended up the best thing that happened could have happened.
And he doesn't have a wife or kids, so he's
better off.
Speaker 9 (34:33):
You know, you don't know what to do for there's
nothing I can do by way of dealing with stuff,
is just kind of keeping busy in and going and
doing something. So we went over. I went over and
started working on the house.
Speaker 8 (34:46):
I had a lot of mixed emotions about that one.
After finding out everything. I was glad that there was
no babies, But on the other hand, I was sad
that there was no babies.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
But the thoughts of Christy interfere with their healing. If
they had a chance to say something to her, if
they had a chance to get some level of closure
from her, what would those closest to Jared say and do?
Speaker 11 (35:15):
If you were to ask me this question, I would
have said, I would have probably punched in her mouth.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
I'd probably walk away.
Speaker 8 (35:22):
I don't have nothing nice to say to her.
Speaker 9 (35:25):
No, I'm probably done with it, you know, because she's
a liar, So no matter what you asked her, you're
not going to get to truth.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Hey wouldn't be worried. It would be my fist.
Speaker 6 (35:36):
I was sad at first, Now I'm mad.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Jenny offers her final insight on Christie's endgame.
Speaker 6 (35:43):
I don't think she can have children. I think that's
what the main thing of this is that she wants
a family. She wants to actually have, like something of
hers that she didn't have when she was a child herself.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
When I heard Jenny say that, sad for Christy a
child from a broken and abusive home and all she
wanted was a family of her own. But her desires
don't justify the means she took to try to achieve
that dream.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
I hate how everything went down, and I hate the
fact that she did that. But I also hate the
fact that, knowing what I know now of her family situation,
that could have been the reason why this was all caused.
That's what I hate. That's what makes me sad because
she is a very nice girl.
Speaker 6 (36:33):
She would do anything for anyone, you know, she would
go to the mint and back. But to do all
of this for attention?
Speaker 4 (36:45):
Why why people don't change completely overnight.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
It's a gradual thing and it's hard to get past
those bad qualities. You never grow out of them, especially
if your morals are incorrect. I mean, that's what you
live by, and unfortunately I chose incorrectly, and I really
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want to harp on it. Make sure you know who
you're wanting to spend the rest of your life with.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
We made an attempt to reach out to Christy to
see if she wanted to tell.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Her side of the story.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
She declined to speak to us. We did find out
some news after completing her medical treatment. Christy has relocated
and is living in a different state. She's in a
new relationship and engaged, and she recently gave birth to
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a baby girl.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
We found all this out on Facebook.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
The Unborn is a production of iHeart Podcasts, Audio Up
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Rodriguez Malt, Produced by Alvin Cohen and Rachel Foley. Executive
produced by Jimmy Jellinek, David Thwaites, and Jared Gustave.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Edited by Gerard Bauer and Preston Dawson. Sound design and
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Jared continues to return donations given to him and Christy
after the fire, yet many of those donations are being
returned back to him and his name only after the
community has learned the truth about Christie. And while the
return donations help soften the blow of the trauma that
Jared's endured, the aftermath of Christie's lives and actions continue
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to haunt him.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I called her work, so she was supposedly this regional
manager making all kinds of money they're given. I'm on
COVID pay all this stuff. I call into her work.
I explained the entire story of because I call in
specifically to get myself off of her as health insurance
and to tell her company, hey, there were no children
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when the fire happened. They stuck the children on the
health insurance without filling out the proper paperwork. They kind
of just pushed it through to help out.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Jared knew his children were on Christie's health insurance. This
wasn't a surprise.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Oh yeah, I got papers in the mail saying, hey,
we have here's the son's name, the daughter's name, here's
their cards.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
But what he didn't know was the story Christy told
her coworkers about the deaths of their twins.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
She's asking a million questions and it was weird questions like, hey,
I'm sorry to hear about what happened. Before I even
said that there weren't any kids. So I'm like, what
do you what did you hear? She goes, oh, well,
your wife had these kids last week. I'm like, what
do you mean. I'm like, I'm dumbfounded. Her boss is
(01:44):
who actually who I was on the phone with, goes, yeah,
she called us from in the hospital. It was like
two days before the fire, and she's going through and
sorry to hear about your daughter passing away in the hospital.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
The more Jared listens, the stranger and more unsettling this
conversation becomes.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
And then she gets to the boy, Hey, we're so
sorry to hear what happened to your son because the
smoke inhalation that happened in the fire. What And at
this point I'm like, buck stop, we gotta step back.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Christy had told her coworkers that their daughter had died
in the hospital and that their son had died in
the fire.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
They passed away at two completely different points. We got
to bring the son home and he died of the
smoke inhalation. It's mind blown. How do you make this
stuff up?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Jared continued. Speaking to Christie's box.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
He finds out that she wasn't a high level executive
that she claimed.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Rather, she was a secretary.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Just like a snowball effect that the lies continue to
come out, and I didn't see any of that. Maybe
it was because I wasn't looking. Maybe I was just
glazing over it. But I don't know how someone could
pull that off.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
As husband and wife, Jared would get all the details
of what came with Christy's stressful, high profile position.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
It was like, hey, I had to deal with this
guy quitting the warehouse problem. Like it was so methodically
thought out. It blows my mind, it really does.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Marriages are supposed to be built on trust. Jared felt
that his was, tragically it was not in more.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Ways than one.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Beyond faking a pregnancy, Christy had another giant secret she
kept from Jared that throughout their entire relationship, she was
seeing another man, her ex fiance Tom. I'm trishaa Fotch.
I'm a writer, director, actor, and federal criminal defense attorney.
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I'm going to tell you a story that's all too
real about love, lies and the lens people will go
to for attention. It's a story that will leave you
questioning everything you thought you knew about truth, about reality,
and about what happens when the two collide in the
most unimaginable way. From Audio Up.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
And Just Sweet Press Productions, This is the Unborn.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Jenny recounts how Christy kept her conversations with Tom discreet,
at least on Snapchat.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
One day, I was laying on her bed and we
were listening to music, and I wanted to turn a
song on her phone and I saw that Jenny popped
up and I'm Jenny, and I didn't send her a Snapchat.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
So.
Speaker 6 (04:39):
I opened it and it was her expancee.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Jenny wasn't the only one that picked up on Christie's affair.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
The small town rumor mill also had noticed.
Speaker 7 (04:49):
Her ex boyfriend's truck was parked of the house or
something one day and he was just sitting in this truck.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
He wasn't even in the hound.
Speaker 8 (04:57):
His neighbors called him one time and that dude that
she was banging with in his driveway.
Speaker 9 (05:01):
That car they bought was brand new, and somehow it
has twenty some thousand miles on it and they've only
had it for four months, So how did that happen
if you're just going to work and you know she's
a professional liar.
Speaker 8 (05:14):
Neighbors took pictures of him, and it was our actiance
that the other dude that she was still shagging.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
We don't know why Tom was just sitting in Jared
and Christie's driveway. Potentially there was an innocent explanation for that,
but we do know something else he was up to.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
The ax was sending her money twenty four to seven,
was always sending her money, and I had said to
her multiple times, you need to stop that, like you
need to block him, delete him, do whatever.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Like just be done.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
She couldn't. I don't know what is so in here
about him that she wants, but it's it's gross and
I don't like it.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Melissa, Jared's attorney offered an explanation for why Tom was
constantly sent money to Christy. It was because Christy told
Tom that he, and not Jared, was the father to
the twins.
Speaker 10 (06:09):
I have the text messages in my file between Christy
and another man in which she clearly states that this
other man is the father to the twins and that
Jared has decided to do the up standing right thing
and claim to be the father.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
There are volumes of text messages between Christy and Tom,
evidence that.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Painted a picture of Christy as a woman who.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Was not only faking a pregnancy, but was claiming two
different men Jared and Tom, were the father.
Speaker 10 (06:42):
Just think what she could have done if she.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Was up to good.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Melissa gave us full access to the file.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
There were numerous sexting photos that Christy sent to Tom,
multiple Zell receipts of Tom sending Christy money, and the
receipts come with messages like want me or not or
if you ever need anything, dear tell me. But one
text exchange really stands out. It turns out that Tom
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was also engaged and expecting a child with his new fiance.
This is that text exchange between Christy and Tom, a
week before Christie's due date.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Christy, you chose this. If you would have chose me
months ago, me and her would be having another baby
and you would have had what you've been begging for.
You can't blame me for living my life when I
was thrown to the side.
Speaker 7 (07:35):
I don't beg you You've said all these things about
our kids that I'm carrying, and that shit ain't true.
Just literally leave me alone for good. Don't worry about
our kids. I'm so sick over this. Fuck you, I
don't even know if there's a word for you.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Me not telling you isn't live. It's not your business.
I'm just trying to be here for you, for the
kids you're about to have.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Christy and Tom are because she's just found out that
his new fiance is also pregnant, even though all this
time he knew that the twins she was pregnant with
were his.
Speaker 7 (08:12):
It is my business. Leave me alone. Go be there
for your pregnant Beyonce.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
It's not your fucking business. I don't know where you think.
Speaker 7 (08:21):
That I should tell her that these are your two
kids that I've been keeping a fucking secret for you.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
You chose that, You chose that when you chose him,
But go ahead, take your screenshots and cause trouble and
ruin the days leading up to the kids' birth.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Christy clearly becomes agitated in her following responses, firing back
with all caps and exclamation points.
Speaker 7 (08:44):
Oh so you do want me to tell her that
our kids are due next week, and you've been meeting
up with me. Okay, so now threatened being a father
to our children. I don't need you to be their dad.
I'll take care, ask for child support, and move on
with my life.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
I wasn't written in anything.
Speaker 7 (09:01):
You said start shit and ruin the birth of our
kids in a week. That's a threat.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
I said, ruin the day is leading up to it,
because it would we would be fine, and it won't
be as happy for us when the day comes.
Speaker 7 (09:14):
I'm so Sigrid. Now you're insane. Leave me alone.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
There's a lot to unpack regarding Christy's headspace.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
She's already carrying on with this monumental lie with Jared
and his entire family, and yet she somehow has the
bandwidth to carry this lie along with Tom as well.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I find out that two weeks after I proposed, there
was a message from her ex saying, hey, you better
treat her right. As soon as the kids are born,
I will be getting a paternity tests. I know they're mine,
so don't screw it up.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Tom had direct message Jared on Instagram, but Tom and
Jared do not follow each other on Instagram, and Jared
did not get the message, that is, until he thought
to check his DMS after he'd served Christy with a
noment papers.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
And I hear you proposed, and I hear she is
going to say yes, since she was waiting to see
what I did, even though I was told you two
were going to make things work for the kids Friday
night when she was with me in my hotel. Seriously,
best of luck, be civil for the kids. Actually fuck
her and she won't wander. And when the kids are born,
(10:28):
I will be asking for a paternity test. She was
breaking up with you for us until the pregnancy, so
I'm told anyway, and it doesn't matter what it takes.
You need to make the next eight months of Christy's
life as easy as possible. I don't know if she
can handle another dramatic experience.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
It's hard to process that Christy was pushing this lie
on two fronts. Like most things Christy did, we were
left asking why was Tom an alternate backup in the
event her life.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
With Jared imploded. Did Christy simply.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Lie to Tom in order to collect money from him
for the children that did not exist, or was Tom
a part of Christie's endgame all along? And Jared was
a placeholder until Tom sorted out his domestic situation with
his pregnant fiance. With two different men in her life,
it's hard to know which man Christy actually wanted to
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be with. Here's Jenny and her mom with their thoughts
on Christy's endgame.
Speaker 11 (11:32):
I think it's the money.
Speaker 12 (11:33):
I think she was trying to steal a baby and
sell it for the money. I think she was on
the computer, and I think when she got on that computer,
she was chit chatting with someone from another stake and
was trying to set it up to have that thing
to steal a baby.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
She wanted a family.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
I don't know. I know she wanted a little girl
so bad, and the more that I thought about it,
and the more that I thought about everything else, she
would go to any length to get a little girl.
At this point, I feel like including possibly stealing a baby.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Do you think she's capable of kidnapping a baby?
Speaker 4 (12:16):
You forgive her the chance, do you.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Think she would go through with it?
Speaker 6 (12:21):
Probably?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
We decided that we wanted to see if we could
try to get more information about what went on for
the eighteen to twenty hours that Christie was in the
hospital prior to calling Jared to ask him to come
pick her up.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I have to say.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
I've never done an ambush style interview before, although there's
no plan to ambush, I guess I just mean unscheduled
interview before.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
So my adrenaline is feeling a little nervous.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
But we're going to see if we can try to
get any more answers.
Speaker 10 (12:47):
My name is Tresiana Boch. This is Frank Wall.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
You're with iHeartRadio and we're producing a segment, a new
segment on an episode that occurred in his hospital in
the semer twenty twenty.
Speaker 8 (12:59):
We were one, I.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Mean, if there was a public information officer on duties
that would be available for comments.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
You who started to do officers a very unlaboration spor Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Thank you for.
Speaker 12 (13:15):
Good.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
How were you for?
Speaker 1 (13:16):
We just asked the check in and she said to
ask you we are My name is Trecila Bonge.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
This is Frank Wall.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
We're with iHeartRadio producing a new segment and a portion
of the segment revolves around an incident that took place
here in December twenty twenty, and we were wondering if
there was a public information officer on.
Speaker 10 (13:37):
Who you would be available.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
For comment today?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
More than likely?
Speaker 9 (13:41):
Now, okay, and the wait you think kind of the
skeletons group.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
Okay, the best thing to do is would be a
callback morow.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Okay, we'll come back to morow. Okay, who would you say,
speak to patient relations for.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
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Speaker 3 (14:00):
By the way, it's not it's a negative story. It's
a positive story.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Guine Hospital, I who you've talked to?
Speaker 10 (14:07):
Did you work here in December twenty?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Could you answer anything?
Speaker 8 (14:13):
Nothing? Nothing?
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Not even sit through the questions and decide what you
could answer and what then? Okay, I know nothing. So
we just got back in the car. We were definitely
turned away by the hospital. We spoke to four people,
two at the front desk, who referred us to the
police officer and security guard who were standing just to
(14:38):
the left of the table, and we asked if we
could speak to the public Information officer, which is the
PIO public information officer on duty about an incident that
took place in the hospital in December twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
They told us nobody was.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Available, gave us a card and a number to call
to contact and I was trying to grease him a
little bit to see if he would speak, and we
asked him when did he start working at the hospital.
He said twenty twenty. And we threw out there that
the incident makes the hospital police look really good. It's favorable,
(15:20):
it's not negative, just to see if I could get
anything out of him, and so I said, it revolves
around incident where a woman tried to take a baby
and you guys successfully thwarted her from allowing that to happen.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
And his eyes look right like absolutely he was there.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Absolutely, He just.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Had this super guilty look on his face like he
was dying to talk.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
His eyes I could just see the wheels in his
head turning.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
I pressed just a little harder, and instead of saying
no comment, he just said nothing because I think he
was worried that if he started to talk, he was
going to say what he remembered, and he did not
want to do that. So we will call on Monday
and see if we can speak to the PIO. We
made several attempts to reach the man whose name and
number we were provided, as well as left several messages.
(16:13):
It turns out he wasn't the PIO, but rather the
head of public safety at the hospital.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
He never returned our calls.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
If Christy did intend to kidnap a baby as part
of her ending, it was never meant to be. If
she intended to return to tom that didn't work out either. Meanwhile,
Jared was in the process of trying to annul his
marriage to Christy.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
What avenues did she have left? Not many.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
There was a couple rumors going around, and there was
a worn out for her arrest baby napping from the
actual hospital itself. But I don't know how believable that is,
how much truth there is to that just hearsay? Yeah,
I would say it was hearsay, honestly, and again this
is coming through the annoyment that she actually went and
(17:02):
fought me on was then we had to get a
couple of continuances, reason being sheed she didn't get a
lawyer until the day before. Her mother actually wanted to
meet a fifty one fifty her and put her in
a mental hospital. I find out through the continuance she
asked for she decided to go into I don't know
if she was fifty one to fifty by her mother
or if she voluntarily went into this treatment. Center Center.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Jared's attorney, Melissa, couldn't proceed at the pace she wanted
with the annulment because Christie entered a medical treatment center.
Speaker 10 (17:35):
She was in Florida at an intense treatment in which
she was not even permitted to contact her attorney for
two to three weeks, and then she was moving to Chattanooga,
Tennessee for further treatment. And when she moved to Tennessee
is when she would be able to participate in the hearing.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
After everything they went through, it seems that Christy got
the help that she needs. Personally, I applaud her for that.
It's extremely commendable. It's unfortunate, however, how many lives that
up ended, how many friendships destroyed, for this moment to
finally happen.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Here's Jenny.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Her mom had actually messaged me and said like, thank
you for being here for my daughter, and she's going
to get the help that she needs basically, and I
was like, what is happening? Like that day that she left,
her mom called her and said, you're going to go
(18:32):
to jail, Like you're going to go to jail if
you don't come with us right now. And I'm like thinking, like, oh,
They're just saying that because they just want to put
you in a mental place because you just lost two children.
That's what I was thinking, And come to find out
that wasn't even it.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
It's clear Christy needed the help.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Sheila feared her daughter would go to jail if she
didn't leave with her immediately to the treatments and her
Jenny had her own theories why. She thinks Sheila was
afraid that local authorities would arrest Christie if she stuck around.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
It could be that it could be the money. It
could have been the faking everything. It could have been
because they faked it in the donations of the fire,
of the babies, it could have been, it could have
been all that.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
The fire raised suspicions with everyone involved in the story.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
For Jenny, it was no different.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
I think she was getting rid of everything that reminded
her of those babies, the room, anything, just the house
in general.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Well what do you think?
Speaker 2 (19:36):
What if?
Speaker 3 (19:37):
What if Jared died in that fire?
Speaker 6 (19:39):
So that's the that's the million other questions.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Jenny had a final thought to share in regard to
the fire.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
You never asked me about the ring.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I don't know anything about what ring, No wedding. No,
it was missing.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
I couldn't find it.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Do you think she pawned it?
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Yeah, or she has it or she had it somewhere.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
It was expensive. He paid it in cash because it
was like last.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Minute, like like they are closing type thing, and he
paid in cash.
Speaker 12 (20:21):
From what I read, and she said, there was one
plan it in the bathroom where the fire started.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
This whatever, there was a fake ring.
Speaker 12 (20:28):
There was a fake ring that a real ring wouldn't burn,
a real like it was a silver, it was a
silver whatever.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Set diamond set and he specifically said the way that
this was all set, like the diamond on it, like
it wouldn't it wouldn't burn.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Story of somebody planted a fake ring in the bathroom
of the house before it burnt down so that it
would seem like that was the real ring.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
And that's what happened to it.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
She did it herself, or she did it herself, or
she pawned the ring beforehand and bought that one off
the Amazon.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
With Christy being forced to leave Avella by her mother,
she would have her final face to face moment with Jenny.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
She just kept on saying to me from the time
we left my actual apartment to the stairwell, she said,
you're still going to be my best friend. You're still
my friend, Like she just kept on asking me that.
I just kept on saying, yeah, of course, I'm going
to still be your friend. Like I like, you're gonna
get through this. I'll talk to you whenever I can't,
you know, like every day.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Christie's mother arrived, it was time to say goodbye, and.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Then you've never spoken to her again.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
She actually called me.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
In between Christy leaving and calling Jenny from her treatment center,
Jenny was contacted by Jared's sister. His sister told Jenny
the entire truth about what happened with Christy. Jenny was
in shock and really hurt. That's when Christy called her.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
From treatment and she was like, everything okay.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
And I was holding back to her because I had
just knocked out everything, and I'm like, yeah, you know,
like I just I reset my phone and I made
up a story of how I reset my phone and
how all my locations just her off for everyone, and
she was like okay. And after that conversation she said,
(22:24):
I loved you, and I didn't even say it back
to her honestly, and I hung up, and then I
have a message from her mom saying, you know, like
she's going to go get the help that she needs.
But she didn't exactly put it in that term.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
But I think that Christie knew when you guys had
that final phone call, that you knew that everything was
a lie, and she just didn't have the guts to
say I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
What makes you think that because.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
She never tried to reach out over.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Again, Christie's mom wanted her to get into an inpatient
mental facility.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
There's two to look at it.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Non cynically, Sheila wants her daughter to get the help
that she needs, but strategically, entering a long term treatment
facility effectively postpones any annulment, which Jared was desperately.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Trying to get done.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
It also provides cover from any potential criminal charges that
could have come out of all of this. Jared's lawyer,
Melissa felt the challenges of Christie's abrupt departure from a
vienna she ran.
Speaker 10 (23:30):
And we had a very difficult time moving forward because
I couldn't locate her. We were very thankful when she
retained an attorney because then I had a point of contact,
and then that attorney filed the petition for a continuance
and gave us some additional information as to where she was,
(23:50):
and I believe I even requested proof that where she
stated she was. I said, I don't believe you. I
want to know exactly where it is, and I want
documentation that that's where she's at.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Christy's location was uncovered, she had legal counsel. Jared and
Melissa were ready to proceed in earnest, but Christy was
ready to fight.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
She wore her money. She's like, hey, I lost all
this stuff, and she put astronomico amounts of value on
these items that she lost. She felt entitled to fifty
percent of that.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
When Jared's lawyer, Melissa realized Christie was claiming items lost
in the fire, let's just say she wasn't having it.
Speaker 10 (24:34):
Essentially said, you're ridiculous, this isn't going to happen.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
I was a pit bull.
Speaker 10 (24:41):
I was not going to back down. There was nobody
that was going to take advantage of Jared while I
was with so I spoke with her counsel. She had
no idea. She was oblivious. She believed that Christy was pregnant.
And I kind of laughed in her face. It was
(25:02):
all over her phone, and I'm like no, and I'm like,
I have the proof, and I gave her some of
the backstory, and she indicated to me, well, Christie is
willing to go through with Yanoma, but she wants her stuff.
She wants her money.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Even Christie's own counsel was in the dark about her
lafe and deceit.
Speaker 10 (25:23):
I once again laughed in her face, and I told
her about the fire that go fund me, the money
that she had taken, what my client had done.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
With the money.
Speaker 10 (25:34):
I mean, if there's anybody that, in my opinion, I
like decide for, it's the good guy and the underdog.
And Jared was one hundred percent the good guy and
this matter. So I was going to be a pipole.
I was not going to let her get anything. So
she provided me with a list of things. I spoke
(25:56):
with Jared about it, and of course it was all
in the fire and she had indicated her council indicated
she wanted the money that he received for those items. Well,
you know what, Jared didn't claim those items, so he
never received any funds from those so there was no
(26:18):
funds for him to give. In fact, he was working
his way to pay back people on the GoFundMe from
the money she took, so he was paying out a
pocket for money. In my opinion, she stole just to
make things right. There was no way I was letting
her get any more money.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
No way.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Jared received his annulment on his birthday, and he couldn't
have asked for a better gift.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
I actually ended up getting the annulment on my birthday.
I wasn't even worried about the birthday. I'm a free
man again. It's done it over with. And this was
drug out for four and a half months, and I'm
just psyching the pressure and relief. I felt, Hey, I
can move on with my life. It's my life again.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
The hearing was conducted over zoom. Jared had his camera on.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Christy didn't I have.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
My camera on? Once I hear that it was going
to be ruled in my favor, I'm sitting there smiling
at the camera. I know she can see me. I
guess I just wanted to kind of rub it in
her face, like, hey, you're a terrible person.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
But she did not turn her camera on.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
She'd never turned her camera on.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Did you hear a voice?
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Oh? Yes, And I actually had my mother in there
with me, which what a what a complete I don't
even know how to describe it. I've never seen my
mom so emotional other than the day.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Jared's mother, Kathy isn't big on showing emotions, positive or.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Negative, but she was so happy and relieved. She was
more relieved than I was. And it was in having
her friend be my lawyer for the annulment that just
kind of made a bitter sweet to her. It was
nice to see my mom finally smile again.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
And Jared was thrilled that this show of emotion was
a joyful one.
Speaker 8 (28:10):
I was relieved and glad it went through so we
didn't move on with our lives.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
And it was a true genuine smile and being happy
and relieved. And so I'm like, hey, let's go to
breakfast before the annoyment. She goes, absolutely not, I'll throw up.
I'm like, well what, I'm like, Well, that's that's all right, mom,
I'll sit here with you.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I was able to review the annulment paperwork, and in it,
Christy had to confess for once the.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Truth on the record. She ended up saying there were
never any children, and that was that solidified it to me,
to everyone in the courts, the law, there were never
any children and everything was a lie.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
It was satisfying for Jared's law Melissa as well.
Speaker 10 (29:02):
One thing I really wanted to ask her because we
had to set the groundwork in the hearing as to
what the deception was, and she had never admitted to
him that it wasn't true. So I point asked her,
(29:22):
were there any kids? And she paused, she said no,
And that, in my mind or my belief, is the
first time he actually heard it from her mom. Because
I did not want this lingering in his mind at all.
I did not want there to be any question in
the future whether he made the right decision or not.
(29:43):
I wanted her to admit that she did to him.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Melissa proved Christie's deceit. She helped Jared be free from
this nightmare. And even though she couldn't prove some other
things about Christy, it didn't stop her from having her
own opinions on the specific the fire.
Speaker 10 (30:02):
Do you think she set the buyer? Yes, one hundred percent,
because of the history of the prior fires, and I
think this woman could do anything and I think it
probably helped with her whole storyline because if they had
stayed together, she could have built upon the trauma of
(30:24):
the fire and how it affected her and therefore impacted
the babies, which led to their death. And if you're
going to build sympathy, I mean house fire, baby deaths.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Melissa was convinced that Christie set that fire.
Speaker 6 (30:43):
She was also.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Convinced that Jared was the victim of a crime. Do
you consider yourself the victim of a crime?
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (30:51):
After everything Jared endured, it would be up to him
to decide if criminal charges against Christy was a fight
he wanted to pursue.
Speaker 10 (30:58):
He could have filed private criminal complaint at a magistrate's
office and then it would go to the DA directly,
and the DA would then determine to move forward. But
he didn't need that additional battle. He needed closure and
for it to be over. And I don't know that
he ever wanted to punish her. He just wanted it over.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
When Jared and I sat down, it was four and
a half months after the births and two weeks after
his annulment was final.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
I expressed to him that I was really glad to
see that he was back on his feet.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
What makes you think I'm back on my feet. I'm
not the same person that I was before this happened.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Jared wasn't the only one that thought he was forever
changed by all this. It's a sentiment shared by many
people in Jared's life, including his mom, dad and mom.
Speaker 8 (31:54):
I think there was going to be trust issues there,
and hopefully will grow as a as a person. But
I definitely think there's gonna be some issues there.
Speaker 9 (32:07):
Well, I think he's in a good frame of mind
and you have to learn from this kind of stuff. Yeah,
it just doesn't happen on TV. I guess he can't
think of every girlfriend he's ever going to have like
this one. You know this probably Well, let's hope it
never happens to him again.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
You know.
Speaker 9 (32:25):
I tell him what I think, and you know, right
or wrong. I hope it helps him some.
Speaker 10 (32:29):
You know.
Speaker 11 (32:30):
I don't think he lets on to us how much
it actually affected him. I think he like puts on
a great face, but I think it really did affect him.
So I don't know that he's letting people know how
that affected it. I think it's going to take him
a while to personally be able to trust again. So
I think he just needs to heal before he tries
(32:51):
to date.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
As our initial time together drew to a close, I
wondered if Jared had any advice for people out there
after experiencing what he endured.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
That's a tough one. Don't take do your research, and
I hate to say it, but question these big decisions
in your life. Don't say Okay, well she's or someone's pregnant.
Question it. Get proof, and I think COVID made that
(33:23):
a lot easier to pull off. Hopefully no one ever
has to go through this again. I wouldn't wish it
on my worst enemy. But do your research.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
There's no rule book on how to navigate such trauma,
especially when it's so confusing and doesn't seem to make
any sense. Jared and those closest to him coked in
their own ways. His parents Kathy and David were hit
especially hard.
Speaker 11 (33:48):
Oh.
Speaker 8 (33:48):
I was devastated. I just couldn't. I couldn't understand. I
couldn't wrap my head around it. I had no idea
what happened to.
Speaker 9 (33:58):
People were coming up with adolences. Some know, some don't,
Some some know the story. I mean, you got to
tell this ft up story, you know, probably two hundred
times to everybody that walks in the door, because they're
all friends. The relatives live all around us here at
Oh my wife was.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Ecstatic, ready to be a grandma.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 9 (34:18):
She cried for two weeks after.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
This, and he told him the whole story, and uh yeah,
we were still in the hospital and just in disbelief.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Ended up the best thing that happened could have happened.
And he doesn't have a wife or kids, so he's
better off.
Speaker 9 (34:33):
You know, you don't know what to do for there's
nothing I can do by way of dealing with stuff,
is just kind of keeping busy in and going and
doing something. So we went over. I went over and
started working on the house.
Speaker 8 (34:46):
I had a lot of mixed emotions about that one.
After finding out everything. I was glad that there was
no babies, But on the other hand, I was sad
that there was no babies.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
But the thoughts of Christy interfere with their healing. If
they had a chance to say something to her, if
they had a chance to get some level of closure
from her, what would those closest to Jared say and do?
Speaker 11 (35:15):
If you were to ask me this question, I would
have said, I would have probably punched in her mouth.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
I'd probably walk away.
Speaker 8 (35:22):
I don't have nothing nice to say to her.
Speaker 9 (35:25):
No, I'm probably done with it, you know, because she's
a liar, So no matter what you asked her, you're
not going to get to truth.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Hey wouldn't be worried. It would be my fist.
Speaker 6 (35:36):
I was sad at first, Now I'm mad.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Jenny offers her final insight on Christie's endgame.
Speaker 6 (35:43):
I don't think she can have children. I think that's
what the main thing of this is that she wants
a family. She wants to actually have, like something of
hers that she didn't have when she was a child herself.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
When I heard Jenny say that, sad for Christy a
child from a broken and abusive home and all she
wanted was a family of her own. But her desires
don't justify the means she took to try to achieve
that dream.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
I hate how everything went down, and I hate the
fact that she did that. But I also hate the
fact that, knowing what I know now of her family situation,
that could have been the reason why this was all caused.
That's what I hate. That's what makes me sad because
she is a very nice girl.
Speaker 6 (36:33):
She would do anything for anyone, you know, she would
go to the mint and back. But to do all
of this for attention?
Speaker 4 (36:45):
Why why people don't change completely overnight.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
It's a gradual thing and it's hard to get past
those bad qualities. You never grow out of them, especially
if your morals are incorrect. I mean, that's what you
live by, and unfortunately I chose incorrectly, and I really
(37:15):
want to harp on it. Make sure you know who
you're wanting to spend the rest of your life with.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
We made an attempt to reach out to Christy to
see if she wanted to tell.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Her side of the story.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
She declined to speak to us. We did find out
some news after completing her medical treatment. Christy has relocated
and is living in a different state. She's in a
new relationship and engaged, and she recently gave birth to
(37:52):
a baby girl.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
We found all this out on Facebook.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
The Unborn is a production of iHeart Podcasts, Audio Up
and Jesuit Press Productions, created by Trisila Fotch and Frank
Rodriguez Malt, Produced by Alvin Cohen and Rachel Foley. Executive
produced by Jimmy Jellinek, David Thwaites, and Jared Gustave.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Edited by Gerard Bauer and Preston Dawson. Sound design and
mixing by Jeremiah Zimmerman.
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