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March 14, 2025 • 16 mins

How Narcissists Abuse Can Lead to Chronic Illness | Episode 03 In this podcast, we explore the powerful and often overlooked connection between narcissistic abuse and chronic illness. How Narcissists Abuse Can Lead to Chronic Illness is a deep dive into how prolonged exposure to narcissistic manipulation and emotional trauma can affect your physical health. From the stress on your body to the development of chronic conditions, understanding this link is essential for your healing journey. If you’ve ever experienced narcissistic abuse or are struggling with chronic illness, this video is for you.

 Learn about the hidden effects of trauma, how it impacts your body, and the steps you can take to reclaim your health and peace of mind. Join us as we break down the symptoms, the science behind the trauma-illness connection, and offer guidance on how to heal both emotionally and physically.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You know, it made us realize that there are so
many negative health side effects with long term narcissistic abuse,
and these things are real and they're dangerous for your health.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
They really are. Welcome to The Victim the Warrior.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Show Warrior Talk, and this is our third episode where
John and Melissa and we are narcissistic abuse survivors and
our mission is to help other survivors reclaim and rebuild
their lives.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Right now, we had a totally different topic plan for
this podcast, but something really really important came up just
over the past couple of days and we felt it
was vital to share this with you now. But talk
to us just a little bit about what happened with
some of your clients this week.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Well, I had three long term clients, all canceled because
of major health issues. These health issues have been plaguing
them off and on, and it, you know, it made
us realize that there are so many negative health side
effects with long term narcissistic abuse. And none of my

(01:15):
clients even put that together until you know, we care
about our clients. So I said, listen, you have to
talk to your doctor about this because this has been
going on for a while and it's things that you
would never possibly put together, or maybe you were made
to think you're just you're insecure, or you're trying to
get attention, or you're just a complainer. These things are real,

(01:39):
and they're dangerous for your health.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
They really are, right.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
So talk Let's talk a little bit about the clients
that canceled. I mean, what's going on.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Well, one has immune system deficiencies and she has gotten pneumonia, bronchitis,
the flu, I mean, anything that's going around, she catches
it because her immune system is.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Right suppressed now.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
And she just got out of her abusive relationship just
a couple of months ago, so these plagues started happening
to her just recently. So it's pretty easy to collaborate
these two and say, listen, this is the cause and
effect of this abuse you suffered over many, many many
years is now manifesting itself physically in her body.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
So let's talk about Well, another one developed these weird allergies.
I mean, she's fifty five years old, has never been
allergic to anything, and all of a sudden, she's starting
to become allergic to things that she eats all the time.
And her doctor said that it is stress related. That's

(02:43):
she thought it was an allergy because she was breaking
out in hives. It was stress that was causing her
body basically to almost attack itself, right, And so she
is having to go through a lot of test right now.
It's really kind of scary. And my other client basically
has such chronic night tears that she cannot sleep, and

(03:06):
she literally had to cancel because she had not gone
to sleep for like almost two days.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
And that's a horrible thing for your body to not
get the rest that you need. And I know Melissa
and I aren't trying to scare you. We just want
to inform you this is pretty important stuff. Especially if
you've been dealing with this abuse year after year after year,
or even if you've recently escaped the abuse, but it
went on for a long long time. Some of these

(03:32):
things might be happening to you. So let's talk a
little Let's get a little bit more into this. Let's
talk a little bit about your abuse that you suffered,
all those years you suffered. Let's talk about some of
the negative health side effects that you had because of that.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Well, two major ones were the insomnia, I had, night tears,
I could not sleep, I cannot tell you how many
nights I would get like one or two hours. And
I had a really, really stressful job, and unfortunately I
had to go on a prescription sleep med, which was
terrible for me. Took me a long time to get it.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Took us a couple of years to get her weaned
off of that stuff.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
It was onto something, you know, just natural, thank goodness.
But then I had digestive issues. I still have those.
I still have those today because I was always a
ball of nerves. I was always just I was always
so tense about what was going to happen, what wasn't
going to happen, and it messed up my insights. I
mean those two things. I it was bad. I mean

(04:34):
I had to go to many, many doctors, specialists, and
you know, finally I was able to get on something
that is natural as well. So but those were my
two biggest issues that I had with my health, right,
I mean, you dealt.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
With anxiety, oh gosh, you know, And I was like you,
I was in a real stressful business at the time,
but then you come home to a stressful home where
you have to walk on eggshells all the time. And
the difference is when you're at work, typically you know
where the arrows are coming from, you know where the
issues are.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
But when it's at.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Home, when you're dealing with a narcissist, you don't ever
know where the attack, always looking, always warring. Now and
that is the first and only time in my entire
life that I had to get on some medication to
deal with stress. I've never in my life had to
do that because I'm really focused on meditation and physical
activity and natural supplements to overcome. But I actually got

(05:29):
on something that was like prozac. I believe it was
called lex Approach. It's been a long time since I
was doing that.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
And people didn't understand narcissistic abuse when we went through it,
so they were quit to prescribe right.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Right exactly and instead of working with somebody. But the
problem was getting off of it. It was one of
the worst things I've ever been through trying to get
off of it. So let's talk a little bit about
the negative health side effects. Let's talk more deeply about
what they look like, so that you can say, you

(06:01):
know what I'm dealing with. Yeah, this is exactly what
I'm dealing with. Now we're going to provide this information
for you. Yes, but let's talk a little bit about
you know, we've got the mental side effects, so let's
talk a little bit about that.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
What does that look like.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Well, of course, anxiety because of the manipulation, gas lighting,
the unpredictability that we were talking about. That leads to
you being anxious all the time, producing major amounts of cortisol,
which is not healthy for you. Depression, feeling of hopelessness PTSD,
I mean PTSD war veterans come.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Home with this.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
This is tied to narcissistic abuse, just night terrors, flashbacks,
intense fear triggered by reminders of the abuse, terrible low
self esteem, obviously self doubt, and confusion due to the
gas lighting and the constant manipulation. We struggle to trust again.

(06:57):
So those are some of the mental health effects. Now
John is into holistic healing, and thank god he's gotten
me into it as well, so I was able to
get off of ambient. But talk a little bit about
things you're you're really good at clearing your mental psyche
and how to get rid.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Of some of that anxiety of the One of the
things that I learned when I was going through my
abuse and the recovery after which I want to talk
a little bit more about that in a few minutes,
but was really, first of all, meditating every day just
for ten minutes can do wonders for you mentally. And
I just listen to a guided meditation every morning that

(07:35):
really kind of helps me clear my mind, get into
a great, great state, and also have some affirmations, some
powerful affirmations that I repeat through the through the through
the meditation, and that is really really just a great
way to start your day if you're dealing with stress
and anxiety and those types of things. It's just a
great way to kind of get on an even keel
at be you. Really other great thing about meditation too,

(07:58):
though you can go back to that that place anytime today.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
At night too if you need to. Sometimes I have
to do it at night.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
Right, So it's a really excellent way to get your
mind on an even keel, especially with your way up
here and you're anxious, anxious to just spend ten minutes
meditating and get down to this level place. And and
if you've had a really really stressful, anxiety ridden day,
kind of end of the day meditation, like Melissa said,
can really help you get into a better place for

(08:27):
your sleep.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yes, definitely.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
And there are other emotional and psychological impacts as well.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
So let's talk about this list, because we could be going,
we could talk about this, there's.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
So many, because it's serious.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Let's tell you where to find this first of all,
so that you can just download this yourself and and
look through these and kind of understand where you are
as far as if you're dealing with any of these.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
In your head, right, that's important.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
To So we're going to put this in our linked
bio and you can get it's a free download. So
just after you get finished with this podcast, just go
up to the top of the page there on our
YouTube page, and right below our banner, you'll see our
link in bio. It says victim to Warrior dot bio.
Just click on that. It's safe to click on it.
It's in blue, and it'll take you to our resources

(09:19):
and in there we'll put this the negative health side
effects of narcissistic A use.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
And so that you.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Have a free copy of this and can kind of
go through it and understand these things are.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Going on with me. Oh now I see, and.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Don't ignore them. Don't ignore them. And there are a
lot of good things you can do as far as
healthy supplements.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Meditation, Yeah, we talked about meditation.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Also, getting outside and walking a couple of times a
week has done wonders for Melissa and I. We are
up to three miles three times a week and we
just love it. Just getting out in nature is so
clearing for you, and it's therapeutic. It's great, but it's
also great exercise. Keep your heart rate, burn some calories.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Definitely lets you clear your head and you know, get
rid of some of that anxiety your feeling, and it
helps with low self esteem. It does help you build
your confidence back and that makes you feel better. You
can produce, you know, your own dopamine and you don't
have to rely on something else or possibly getting on
a prescription med. I mean, we're not doctors. So if

(10:24):
you need to be on a prescription med because your
doctor's prescribed it, then you know you've got to listen
to the health professionals. However, if it's something you can
try that's natural, that's good for your body, and that
you don't become addicted to it like we did years
ago when they really didn't understand how dangerous narcissistic abuse

(10:45):
was mentally, physically, emotionally. I would much rather use a
natural product than go back on a prescription med and
have to beat that again.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
So let's talk about that.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
You know, it's so hard to get everything you need
in your diet, especially when you're dealing with these negative
side effects. You need extra You need an immune booster,
you need a great multi vitamin, you need a natural
sleep page to help you get that eight hours of sleep.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Just something to help your digestive system.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Yeah, we're going to talk about that too also, because
that's a big problem Melissa has and you might also
be suffering from that as well.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
But really, if you can help build.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Your immune system, get some good multi vitamins your body
every single day and get eight good hours of sleep.
With your meditation and your physical activity, you are well
well on the road to recovery. Now, I just want
to show you this real quickly. This is healthy sell
you see, it comes in it's a liquid.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
You can digest it so much easier. Especially for those
of you who hate pills like I do.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
This is their multi vitem.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
This is fourteen pills you drink and it's one hundred
and fifty percent more as absorption than pills. So we
love Healthy Cell because every single one of their products,
whether it's for joints so whether it's for us built,
it's all liquid. So follow our link in the description

(12:07):
below and just check out their website look at all
the amazing products they have.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
We'll put our discount in there and we'll put our
discount Warrior twenty. You get twenty percent off your order.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
But we just love Healthy Self, So please check out
their website now. Also another product that we really really
like for in the middle of the day anxiety Apothecary.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Apothecary. We love Apothecary.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
We've been taking apouth their gary products for several years
now and they're just so helpful. They're all natural.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
They're also liquid and you could either put it right
under your tongue or you can mix it in a
te like. This is called take the Edge Off, and
that's exactly what it does. It does it just takes
the edge off. It kind of just relaxes you. It
makes me a little sleepy. So if I know that
I'm having a kind of a rough day, and maybe
we've had a lot of videos that kind of triggered us.

(12:58):
I may take this, you know, forty five or so
minutes before bedtime before I take the rim sleep the
Healthy cell, and it just kind of brings me down
a notch.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
They do take it in the daytime too, though, Well
it depends.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
If you're prone to things get causing you to be sleepy,
then I would make sure you're you're not driving, you're
not at your job, you are at home, because you
don't you just don't know if it'll make you feel
sleepy or not, and you don't want to be doing anything.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Okay, And lastly, let's talk about the digestive.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
This is a miracle and tell you right now, guys, well,
sometimes Melissa is this TMI.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
But I'm going to tell you.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Wait to Melissa.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Sometimes we'll go a week almost without you know, having
a BM. So that's difficult, awful, And it used to
be really, really really horrible when she first got out
of the abuse of relationship.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
It would be like two weeks. Yeah, it was horrible.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
So we found this apothecary product that Melissa just absolutely loves.
I put it in her coffee every single day. She
doesn't even know it now.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
It puts a little squord in there. And I think
it's the coffee because most people, you know, after they
have their coffee, they're all good to go, John. But
now when I have my coffee, I'm.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Good to go too.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
But it's because of this. And it's called never been bitter,
and it is. And I'll tell you what.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
I was bitter.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
I used to be very Yeah, well I'm.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
No, and this is I will never run out of
this never. And if I'm having, you know, extra trouble,
I'll just pop it under my tone. Right.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
So we're gonna put the links to Healthy sell Antipothecary
in the description below, and we have discount codes for
you for both of them. Yes, so we'll share those,
share those with you, and they're great, great discounts and
we just look. But these are natural products that are
going to help you build your immune system, get healthier,
get better sleep, have better digestion, and feel to deal

(14:47):
with anxiety better too. So wouldn't those things make your
life a lot better?

Speaker 1 (14:51):
So, and you can come back a lot of the
things that you're going through. But take a look at
the list, you know, go through its two pages long.
We want you to know you're dealing with. We want
you to know it's real, and we want you to
know you know you can get help for this. This
isn't something you have to suffer in silence with and
you didn't make it up, you didn't imagine it. These
are real negative health side effects and we want to

(15:14):
make sure you get healthy and you stay healthy, right,
so make sure you get a copy of that as well.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Now, if you have any questions about what we talked
about or anything else dealing with abuse that you're suffering,
please send us an email at questions at the vtwow
dot com and we'll put that in the description below.
Also with a website. We'd love for you guys to
see our website if you haven't yet. It's just got
great information, it's trying for with great resources, the vtwow

(15:42):
dot com and we'll put that below as well. Babe,
have anything else that do we need to talk about?
Any questions we want to review right now?

Speaker 1 (15:49):
No, Actually, the two questions that we got last week
were pertaining to this, so that's the reason, And one
was about immune builder and another one was about sleep.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
So I think we come out.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
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(16:23):
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Speaker 2 (16:41):
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