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Speaker 3 (02:04):
This is nice jacket Canada goose cause very expensive. No
I know, brother, God is not like I know. This
is expensive. Close here you go. I want you to
have this though, you take this. This just for you.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
They have Kabib look Kabib like Godfather. You know you
Champion Umar, thanks for checking in with me.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
It fell okay, I don't know how to do this.
Shitt whist won't you come do it?
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Knowlger? That's what? Like? No? Reso?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Why this is? Yeah? Oh this is not good? Why not?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Guess would have better clear more alredy better clear, already comforting.
Oh man, thanks for checking in with me.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Oh my boy Islamahatchev defendis championship this weekend at UFC
three eleven.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
How you feeling, champ? How's everything feel good?
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Drinking water? God? Thing? Great? That's it?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
You smell that? That biscuit?
Speaker 4 (03:02):
You like that Sunday? I wait, I think one morning, okay.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Sunday morning, before you leave, I promise you have to
be fresh, fresh, hot, okay warm, you gonna eat this?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Okay? Las Vegas for trading camp this time? How was that? Man?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I mean I read I read something the other day
when you're talking to Demetri Johnson.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
You had a baby. He then left the next day
for trading camp. Third third baby?
Speaker 4 (03:27):
How many you have?
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Three?
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Three?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Are you done?
Speaker 4 (03:31):
No? I I won't say on.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
You want seven children? Why? Seven children? Full wrestling teeth
seven way class.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Olympics, some of the judo, sambo wrestling. Maybe someone to
do it.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
MMA. Now I have two.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Boys, two boys? Nice?
Speaker 4 (03:48):
I have to be four bro. Big family is a
good man.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
I build a new house.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
You did already a couple of years ahead. It's beautiful,
beautiful I saw Kobeeb's house. Beautiful house.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Is you all like me like residents? You know, it's
so big.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
It's so big like yours like this.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Min not so big.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
My I live is my grandmother or my father mother.
But it's big but not crazy.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Yeah, I saw your father when you first wont to belot.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
This guy was very happy, Yeah, very proud of these guys.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Big lege guy.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
You know he's still doing his farm, green farm here.
Just called me today morning. You say, tomato is.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Ready, tomatoes already. He's excited about tomatoes. You're probably with
the world title this weekend about tomatoes.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
He don't care too much about this. What you mean, man,
He's not on sports, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
He's just hard work and all his life he workers
his hand.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
You know, your whole family they watched the fights though, Mom, dad, kids,
Mom can't watch.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Mom never watched and why never again, like after if
I win, and never never watch.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Even if you win. She doesn't go back and watch it.
And why I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
She don't like so.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
My mom used to go in the old time.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
She was kind of like like this, you know, eyes down, scared.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
My mama go outside the house and she woke around
the garden. Yeah, get on where I live and when
I won somebody like from the eyes at the house
to go like crazy, you know, and she understands.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Didn't she understand you? When she go back inside now
and now she can like sit and be comfortable.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
She noticed too much.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah, so Las Vegas though training camp? How was that
we spoke at? I think we spoke at the last
paper view. You were a little concerned about how biep
losing his mind during training camp?
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Did he lose his mind? And how was the training camp?
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Why are you going to come through?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Brother?
Speaker 5 (05:38):
I I go this crazy month gymnastics something.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Not even gymnastics. No excuses, just like it's impossible you
go to Las Vegas.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Why Last Vegas? It's very far, fifteen minutes by fly
from your house.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Yeah why not?
Speaker 3 (05:54):
But if I go to the fly, I never know
if maybe they threw me out, they threw the crazy
and you can help people. Bro. Why they kick him
out like this crazy? Why they do this to my guy?
Speaker 4 (06:11):
I don't know?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
What is this?
Speaker 5 (06:13):
Number one bullshit disrespectspect because I understand if you if
they kick.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
You out from this emerging because you're so big.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
Maybe don't do that. Don't be disrespectful. Don't be disrespectful.
I get help because you need strength to pull the
bar a little bit big. Now you can move to
my but all.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
You gotta do is pull the lever. That's it.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
But people have to go from decend.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
But once I, once I pull, I go, you go first.
I go first? You go first?
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Are you go last?
Speaker 3 (06:45):
You wait? I help everybody? How BIEP go last too?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
So what happened is like these people from the front day,
this airline companies, disrespectful, Dave took the worst guy.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
This guy's the best guy to be in there. It's
this It's crazy. But how was the camp camp?
Speaker 4 (07:00):
It's really hard, man, it was hard.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
And I like the training in Vegas UCPI like all
te rape foods everything. It's good to know training.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
That brand new facilities, recovery train.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Training like you see PI team. It's so good. You know,
thank you everyone from your CPI. They help us a
lot and we have everything, but we need In last camp.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
In Vegas, when you weigh your camps, your last couple
of camps in Dagistan to this one, like is this
something you're.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Gonna be doing more going forward? Coming out to Las
Vegas and do your camps.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
We're thinking where we can make the camp, you know,
and Vegas or San Jose. And because this time three
got it's called also Jim is called sometimes and because
we become like big team, like three guys fighting, that's
why we city the coach and we choose the Vegas
(08:04):
Vegas honestly one of the It's a great place for training,
especially right now with the p I.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
It's a great place. Yeah, it picks everything Islam.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
You're fighting on Montskian again the first time, right, even
we did right when you came back from fight, we
all make fun like, oh you lose a round, you
do this just he said, brother, I went every round
like I won three rounds to zero.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah, but he fought you on short notice.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Do you anticipate a much different fight this time than
he got in the last fight?
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Man? Maybe thurch time.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
I'm a little bit underestimating because I don't know these guys,
even not I signed.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Him in even he wasn't signed before he fought.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
You, the looking looking for opponents for him, and that's
why he signed him there because no one from US
or a want to come to Russia and fight, you know,
that's right. At that time we signed him and he
grew up more experience.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Sound like he's a big guy. Now you know, he's big,
big experience.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
And one of the best in our division.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
In that first fight, it seemed as though he was
more willing to wrestle you offensively.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Most people shy away from that.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
They just think defend Islam's takedowns, right, So then they're
kind of on their heels the whole time because they're
taking shot shot shot, which ultimately leads to you being
better with your hands. Do you anticipate he's gonna be
trying to wrestle you again in this.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Fight because all his fight he has same style.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
If it look coming at nine to ten fight he
have in years right now, it's he have always same
style with everybody. He always the striking a little bit,
and when somebody tried to push him, they go to
take it down. That's why, because why he number one?
Why am I the champion? Because he have good skills
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in the wrestling, Because I have good skills in the wrestling.
Who have good skills in the wrestling, they control the division.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
You know, it is universally thought. You know what that means?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Universal like everybody believe this that this is the toughest
fight today for Islam. Do you agree the first one,
this one this weekend is the toughest fight that you'll see.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Nobody will know, you know, nobody know some of the
fights is. For example, when I was fighting is the
h Thibau Glas on Thibau. In my mind, I prepare
like myself for the very hard fight, you know, but
it was to go.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Easy, you know. And I remember that we fought together
that night. You knocked them out, yeah yeah, yeah, straight enough.
But you get the bones. You knock him out good,
you get bonus.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
And you what you did? Submission some ambition, not sambition.
You're ground the bound.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
No submission. This was against rumbol Johnson our vocally like the.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Okay, yeah, they don't give me a bonus. They'd give
you a bonus.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
No, I thought you got the bonus you know that night.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
I don't get that. I wonder why why you get
the bonus.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
I don't know. You're a rich guy. Now you don't
need the bonus.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Now now I don't need but at that time I
need that bonus. You have to come to my room.
I'm not deserved man.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
And give you the fifty grand. Yes, so you're telling
me right now, if you get a bonus over Umar, right,
you'll you'll take the fifty grand and go give it
to Umar tug Here.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Tug Here so you would go get he would not
do that on some like crazy things. But you didn't
do a crazy thing. You hit a while one.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Came out sleep. Okay, more than.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
If maybe you do like spinning back fist twice like
this guy in in Abu Dhabi. Okay, I give him
the money. But if you only do one punch knockout
and I do the same thing, we do the same thing.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
What you punch, just punch.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Easy?
Speaker 2 (11:59):
What did you what did I hit him with my fist?
Who did you hit the guy with your fist?
Speaker 3 (12:05):
My arm was the same thing, right, Like, there's no
reason to give you the fifty grand.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
It's it's not true.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
You know, you never know what's gonna come the Dustin
Quarier fight, a lot of people made it seem like
that was a super tough fight. When you go back
and watch it, like what did you make of that fight?
Speaker 1 (12:24):
You know, improve a look from this fight, Like my
striking become better from this side because I know I
can strike with anyone because Dustin is one of the
dangerous guy in our division who have better than him boxing.
You know, I go, here's him like, and I feel comfortable.
If Habib and all corners don't told me take him down,
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take it, I can knock him out, you know, because
I landed.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
You or you were landing really good in a striking.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
He landed also, But we have good, good fight in
the striking.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
But from this fight I improve Islam.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
So I'll tell you this right now, so I keep count.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
You told me after the first Volkanovski fight you may
be underestimate him a little bit, right You're telling me
now that from the Armand's rookian fight you possibly unimate
did you No? But did you underestimate Dustin?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Pot you No? So now now that you how do
you not go to estimate Armand again.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
I'm surpprised.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
When I fight with Dustin, I am surprised how he
defends my wristling.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
You know, I am not underestament because this is like.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
How do you make sure you don't do that again
against Armand?
Speaker 4 (13:34):
No?
Speaker 2 (13:34):
No, No, is that from the first fight you gain
the respect from the first fight, Because he said that
he doesn't even look at the first fight because he's
a different guy.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
He's a number one contento right now. It just means
he's a high level fighter.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
How I can underestimate it.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Maybe when I thought of his volcano, I think he's
gonna be short, small, something like that. But right now
I have a real opponent who everything you know I have?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
You know one thing that that happens when the guy
wins as much as you do. You're like, and I
don't know if you even notice or if you pay
attention to it. You're like two fights from breaking Anderson
Silva's record for wins in a row in the UFC.
You're fourteen straight wins, which is a crazy man you
have dude.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Stop God damn man. I never won fourteen fights in
the row. D I only had like thirteen fights in
the UFC.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
You never You already break my record, Kabib record. You
beat Kabiv in terms of his wins in the UFC.
Nobody does that, Like it's Anderson Kamorrow, Ushman and then you.
But if you win this weekend, you tie kamoraw Usman,
you'll be one from Anderson Silva. You've won the championship.
You've defended the championship twice. If you win this weekend,
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you will now have the record for most title fight
wins in the UFC. Think about that stuff because now
you're on the verge of getting spoken about in historical terms.
We used to always talk about that in the gym. Right,
want to be number one pound upon, we want to
be this, We want to be there. You're checking all
those boxes. Now you ever stopping, like, take that ose
of it a little bit and go man, this is really special.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Honesty. Man, I never thinking about this.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I don't know how many usman have how many andersonship,
But last week laar remedia asked me about this. You know,
it's good, good for the legacy, and I become close
to you.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Guys have bib you to become in Hall of Fames.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
So Islam, that's that's another thing.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
So everybody wants to ask me, right because I know
you guys will, how much does Islam have to do
to surpass Habib as the greatest lightweight of all time.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
It's not my goal. It's not some things what I
want to do.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
You know, just one thinks what I want to do honestly,
to be championed many many years.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
No records, nothing, Just defend my belt, be champion. You
know when you have belt, it's different.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I told him that. I said that. That was my answer.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
The respect he has for that guy and what he's
done for his career. You don't want to surpass that.
It's like, I think I beats the greatest lightweight of
all time. I think I beats the greatest fight of
all time. But I also think I also think that.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
That armand Seroukia needs to be somebody or somebody needs
to be able to challenge you in a way that
can elevate you to that next level of superstar. Um,
that's mine.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
I don't think it's like a big name. You know,
he's a good fight.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
You need a big name, though, Yeah, maybe some of
it maybe your come bick me.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
You know that if I came back, I would still
beat you as I always beat you. I'm I'm now fat,
out of shape, golf guy, lazy.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Me. I can make two of five? Can I can
make two of five?
Speaker 4 (16:51):
You can come back cutwits and being the.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Top top twenty, everybody would beat me. I don't want
to be in the top one, say top five. No,
no chance, Bro, Islam you are the man.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Bro.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
I appreciate you spending time with me. Oh we're doing
one of these. Still strong, I'm very strong. What do
you do training a little bit me?
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Why?
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Why would you think I got trained a little bit?
You have to right now wrestling only wrestling.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
When you go to the daughter school, do something give gymnastics.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
It's so hard. Have you ever done gymnastics? Your kid
does gymnastics? Not, No, you're gonna do It's like very
very hard gymnastics. Wrestling.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I do wrestling with my kids on my team. If
I feel like taking on house, very good to them.
But we go back. We go back as soon as
we get a chance. When you invite I take now
all my.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Little kids and you come with them. I want you.
I went there before. You know, dak Istan.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
But how many years brother, the last sixteen years ago.
I will come Takistan, will come Dakistan never.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
I'm going on the daggers, dang guys. I promise it.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Is lamav the fans this championship this weekend for the
third time. That would be the record for most titled
fight wins in the UFC.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Four Nobody's definite about four times.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
No, three, I did this, dude, I said four. So
you won the belt against Charles? You beat Dustin Pourier. Oh, man,
did you beat out l two time?
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Defense? So it's five? So it's fine? Is it five? Wait? Stop?
So is it five?
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Six? No?
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Way? Stop? Wait? So you beat so you beat Volkanowski twice? Defense?
You beat Charles olvera.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Yes, I think that belt.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
And he won the belt? So yeah, five four defenses,
five titles. Good job, man, congratulations.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
I didn't know how many belt do you have? I
broke records?
Speaker 3 (19:01):
No, not yet.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
What you have?
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Double chap?
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Remember that double chap, guys, Islam defensive belt UFC three eleven.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Hit that pay per view by button. It's not like
he needs any more money, but he could use it.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Hey, when you go, uh, you know it's cold. You
tell Jack Dela Matt Lana this the other day is
very cool.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
I tell him it's freezing here.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
It's cold in Russia. No, it's the same, same, same,
Thank sham man.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Guys Islami Kachev getting ready to challenge for the World
toweight championship in the world this weekend.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
What's something how you feeling? I gotta be honest with.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
You, like this is this is my name man, Daniel
Cormier TV like real deal now hey TV, Yes, hey,
so listen. I gotta be honest with you, be honest.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
I kind of don't like.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
The way you promote this fight with is constant shots
at me, like DC the DC F DC fed Dad.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Brother, just come from the media.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
They ask me, you're still thinking about one eighty five
you yeah, they asked me. I just told him if
they should help me, I can gain weight.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
But why I always do you see this? Do you
see this? Hey? What about the other day? Albabaka? I
kill this guy. I kill beep to a little bit,
I kill him. Come on, come on. Video Will Harris
edited this video? This guy Will Harris is the worst
video editor of all time. He make like he make
(20:33):
like I stay on the ground the whole time. Now
come on, Ris Vaughan. I was not on the ground
the whole time. These guys go crazy. Look at this
you guys like together.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Click brother. I'm happy that you're building a lot of colors.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
I always, always, always I lift weights. You comment, you say,
this guy work hard.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
On I happy when I see you for something inside
the gym. I like really happy. Why because brother, people look.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
At you and thinking this is like one of the
best fighter of allver them and it.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Was even when I was fighting.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
People think this when you fight thing, it looks good man.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yeah, I know I look good now too, though a
little bit. I'm really good looking face. You may have
better body, but my face better than yours.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
You promise me.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
I cut it. I cut it this morning. I cut
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
I leave though. See I still got the beard. But
it's like nice and neat.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
You know, brother, you said I will come to Dakistan.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
I will come to Dagistan in the summer and I'll
keep longer.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Yeah, all right from today to summer time.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
No chance, itches, no chance guys Islam fights. Jack Dela Madalena.
How's it been being around Jack Dela Madeleena this week
and being so close to uh ultimately something that you
talked about years ago, trying to become a champion in
two weight classes.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yeah, like happy, biggest cut of the year, like best
arena and the biggest fight on my life. Very excited
and like what really happened?
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Are you surprised that you're as big a favorite as
you are? Over Jack Dela Madeleine, because when I hear
you talk about the fight, you're very aware of how
tough a fight this is. But it seems like the
general public thinks that it's a foregone conclusion that you're
going to be world champion.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
I never think of this, Like who make the rankings?
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Who make this the numbers? Guys that do bets, odds
makers they call them.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
I don't do bets, that's right. I don't. You don't bet,
I don't believe, and I don't like check.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Well, I'm telling you right now, your big favorite over
Jack Dela Madeline.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
I don't gamble. Better ways to spend your money, huh yeah?
Like this like on this what is this watch? What
is this watch? Yes? What kind of watch is this? Like?
Target watch? What you get from Target? Wow? What it has? No?
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I can't tell what time is it late? Whatever time
it is, I'm late, Oh man, hey the other day?
Who they never late? But you were early, which is
very odd profession thirty minutes before we were supposed to interview,
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thirty minutes before.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
I'm not surprised when you always laid inside the jim Os.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
I was never late in training.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Like Brooke old Ruski.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
No, I didn't when I when when we were, when
we were all trading together, I was always twelve o'clock practice,
eleven fifty five, eleven fifty five, I show up.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
I remember you were like big yep, like suitcase, Yeah
you come.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
I always like fifteen, No, we trained twelve, yeah, eleven fifteen.
I was there. I would show up eleven fifteen practice,
start twelve o'clock.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
You're always slid man, You're always not professional.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
But on your word, yeah, i'mble.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Some of the fighters, Okay, I am good now. I
feel good, not cutting like match rates. Some of the
guys cutting great. If you're late, they're gonna beat you.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Beat me. You think that people can beat me, now.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Two or three people can beat.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
You together at the same time.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Remember one time when we almost smash you in a.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
You try to jump me almost because Kobe, Why you guys,
you guys follow this guy like this easy leader.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
I remember tell me the story.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
You say like you're big, like you bring the crush men,
like as you say, this.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Is my team. This is my team.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
You teach like ten fifteen people, but when we almost
smash you, nobody.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Can You're crazy.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Nobody like step to help you. Remember this.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
You guys want to fight me. Why why you want
to smash me?
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Because you go crazy?
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Why I go crazy?
Speaker 4 (25:03):
You make him injured?
Speaker 3 (25:04):
No, I didn't injure how Bib. I've never injured howb.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
And I grabbed the head.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
You say, let's let's do like something easy and you
go heart him.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
But do you remember the other day when we're in
when we were in practice.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
I tell him I'm finished, I'm finished. I go on
the side. What do you do? Throw me down? Jump
on me? Yes, but it's the same like because he said, okay, I.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Work.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
So wait? Why why? Why? When I do it, I
try to hurt how bieb But when he do it,
he just make me work. You see, Now I understand bias.
You know everybody saying, oh he biased? Is lom? Now
I understand bias.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Now you retired? Who cares if you're injured? Nobody? At
that time, he's still fighting.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Islam. Jack is.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Has improved greatly in his wrestling. He's working with Craig
Jones Alexander Volkanowski. Alexander Volkanowski, who had success defending takedowns,
is also.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Helping him prepare. What do you make of that? Seeing
all those guys.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Ask let's make this Craig one fighting.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Everybody asked you, what like he.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Helped me to improve something? To improve something.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
It's not working like this when you bring someone for
one camp or for two camps.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
I just give you a good example.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
I tell you yesterday what about Hamzad fighting? I think
deplicy bring many coaches, but it's not help.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
It's not working like this.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
He was waiting. Why was he waiting so long to try?
Did he ever sprawl? Du plus? Did he ever sprawl?
I I don't think he ever.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Sprawled upset, but I don't think he even watched the
wrestling match in the TV.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
You know he didn't sprawl one time.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
There was one thing you had to do in that fight,
and that was defend wrestler.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
He he didn't sprawl.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
So do you think Jack will be able to wrestle
or be able to stop takedowns? Or do you anticipate
that you're gonna be able to take him down to control?
Speaker 4 (27:16):
But you know, I will tell you again again again
how to stop?
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Are you comfortable? Are you comfortable standing and striking with Jack?
Dela Madeline? If you need to for twenty.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Seven wrestle against bosher. I will strike. I can strike
as anyone. You know, I strikers Dustin, Oh fight almost.
I strikers Vogue.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
You know I'm not the restler. I'm the best in
my life fight.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
You know when you talk about these guys, there's some
things when we talk, you always say crazy stuff. But
there's a clip where you were talking about Dustin Fourier's
black belt. There's just so many clips to you like
talking about these guys when you fight them, or is
it what's expected? Because Dustin was able to in the takedowns.
Dustin was able to stay upright and you have to
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beat him on the feet. But are you surprised at
times when you get in there with someone when you
have an idea that they're not going to be as
good at something, Because like I said, Dustin's a black belt.
He was able to defend himself up until the fifth round,
and then.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
You did to get a takedown. You did exactly what
we teach you. That's the one that takedown will teach you.
With the leg, that's the one we teach you.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
And us don't have this technique, man, Yes, single leg,
double licks and the pressure.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
The best wrestling school, the best wrestling country in the
world right now, and you're telling me we don't have something.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Single leg, double leg and pressure. That's it.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
So so again, are you surprised?
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Yeah, like surprise. Yeah, honestly, I'm surprised.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
He defended wrestling well, but I am not black belt
and I still finish him in the last round.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Would you be surprised if Jack is able to defend
every takedown, every takedown?
Speaker 4 (28:57):
Yeah, No, it's not possible. Every take it down.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
It's not possible.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Maybe someone someone that you can defend, but not able
to take it down.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
You think you can take anybody down? If I take
you down, you never took me down.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
I swear I have video.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Man, you want me to show you the picture of
me and you in whose hand is Ramero holding up
after the after the match?
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Now we're talking about picture takedown, not about picture.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
I have video and I take you down.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
You know You've been promising this video for three fights
now and I've never seen the video.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yeah, you need to show me the video. If you
win this fight this weekend, what would that mean to
you in legacy? Because I think earlier in the week
I heard you on an interview and you spoke about legacy.
I don't know that I've ever heard you say legacy before.
What would this mean to you and your legacy? To
become a champion in two divisions?
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Man, I take the title. I have the title, I
have the money. Now it's now, it's the legacy, now
the hike and built. People fight for the second beilt,
just for the legacy.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
You know most of them, and like you, you take
the second build and make sense.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
No vegas.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
But I defended it in Madison Square Garden. What it
becomes double champion. I fought Madison Square Garden too.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Islam, but not for the second belt.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
I had two belts when I came into Madison Square
Garden and left with two belts.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
See you see when I close, You understand I closed.
To beat your old records.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Are you'd have to have the second belt still Islam
and you have more title.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
Defend the Hall of Fame fame.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Yes, there's a lot, you can list them all. You
know what I know. You know what I know. You
asked me.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
You know I need to sund things to look and
I want to beat you know mine? Yeah, yeah, you
need to so and I will be one of the
best fighters from AKA.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Yeah, you already wanted the best of all time from
me Aka.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
You know right now, you know, right now in AKA history,
it's me Habib only two over you. Now you got
to you pass Luke and Kane Noel King. Still you're
number four. You're still number four because Kate came to
a little bit better than you in his career.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Little bit k still.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Me Kabe never lost, so I kind of put him
number one because he's undefeated.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
It's hard not to lose. You lost. Think about this
like the one time to get you know what I'm saying,
you could never lose, like you were better than the guy,
but you make mistake. Kabeb never lost.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
It's impossible to like never lose, right, So yes, I
will put him number He's very good. Twenty nine fights,
no losses, even sometimes you fall down like somebody kitch you.
You know you can lose a fight.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Even still right now, he never lose beat you inside.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
That you Hey, he's super, he's he's insanely big. And
you know how you always say, but there's the thing
like you say, but there's the thing like you say, Hey,
you need to do this every day so you get
skinny Baba is skinny.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
He grapple every day every week. Kabeb is not skinny.
Bro could be weighed so heavy right now? And big?
Speaker 4 (32:13):
No, he's big but not fit.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
I don't know if you've.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Seen his legs, his ankles, fat.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
His leg and this you see this part, it's very fat.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
You can right now?
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Okay, So tell me Saturday night, how do you expect
this fight to go?
Speaker 4 (32:39):
I hope he's gonna be easy, but I don't think
he's gonna be easy.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
He's a good now, he's a good watches many fights. Uh,
some of the striker if you take him down, they're
like uncomfortable there.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
But I see he scrambles. He scrambles really well. Whenever
the fight is.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Gross, you know, have to move what you what to do?
You know he's good everywhere. Uh, I hope he's gonna
be easy, but.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Ready for anything.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Did you Was he bigger than you thought whenever you
stood in front of him.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
No, he's look like the same tour.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
But maybe inside the catch he's gonna be a couple
of kag you bigger than me.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
But still if the fight there.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
You'll come to my room and give me some food.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
I'm gonna have the traditional dagger stand food.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
I remember last time after the fight, you give me
the what do you give me? What?
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Yeah, I give you like this one now it was
the like biscuit with the cheese and you eat this one.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
It's very good.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Huh, you will bring it again.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
That's in Los Angeles. It's a restaurant only Los Angeles Portos.
It's very good. But some things I'll bring you. I'll
bring you something, but you have to win. If you
don't win, you get no. You get no, you get
no snacks, no food, No go back to Daggers Dan
and don't get fed. You know how we play out there.
Last thing. You guys all come from the same place,
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extremely close. All these goals that are set out in
front of you, to achieve them, to accomplish them. Did
you ever imagine that this would be your career? Like
thinking back to that kid that walked into AKA when
you and islam My Metalf had two different colored shirts.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Remember is Islam.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Red Islam black because we great Islam gray Islam red.
It's like, could you ever imagine that your career would
be this? Like the number one pound pound fighter in
the world that just came.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Through the kid and look at the whole.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
You know, you came Loskis Luke, and I thinking my
picture never gonna, never gonna be. Why now I can
move You old guys, you guys finish.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
You've done so much.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
You might not have thought that you could be up there,
but I'm telling you, the first day you walked into
the gym, it was very evident that you would be
a WA champ.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Thinking, you know, I have this success and thanks God
that I have everything right now. I have belts, you know,
and you guys also, yeah, it can help me a
lot by training like so hot AKA always the bike room.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
I still remember this room. I don't like this room,
but still.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Remember more than anything.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Somebody asked me yesterday, like what do you miss about fighting?
I don't miss fighting, I don't miss walking out. I
don't miss any of that. I just missed the opportunity
to spend all that time that we had in the
gym where you're you train and you talk and you
hang out.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
The camaraderie. That's what I missed the most.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Let's make one camp in AKA, not like crazy Heart
training just for weight.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
You know with me, you now, so you admit, now,
have you maybe need to lose a few pounds to
this guy is a fat shamer man Islam maka chev.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
We will bring Luke you talk.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
You see Luke Instagram. This knocks out of his mind,
which all would have.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
We have to bring him back fix his mind.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
His mind is broken this long. It's not what happened
to his mind.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
I don't know what this is. The gloves he fights there.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
No, he fought without the gloves and he fought Darren Till.
Remember Darren Till knocked him out. This is crazy, knockout,
very very bad knockout.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Luke.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Why why when he was vis you and that kid
you have to teach him to box to.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Dude, like to how to live to don't know.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
I'm a man, I'm a man. He's a man. You're
a man.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
We can't teach one man how to live his life. Man,
Why don't you call him and tell him? Why don't
you call Luke and say, hey, Luke, you need to
like maybe stop like going crazy.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
All the time to come to two three years.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
No, keep Luke and Dagger's there forever, Luke, We're gonna
help you, my brother. It's not market fights for you
have see Walter Way Championship this weekend, looking to become
a champion and two way classes. One of the best
fighters of all time and one of the best fighters
pound for pound of all time sitting to my.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Left right here.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Thanks for checking in again, my brother. I appreciate you. Heay,
he's a wrestled guy. I just butt in practice the
other day.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
Yea.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
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