August 2, 2025 • 41 mins
Jeff Teague and the Club 520 guys are LIVE from WWE SummerSlam, where R-Truth talks about his journey through the WWE, from being on the streets, to being a veteran for the WWE. Truth talks about the WWE Netflix documentary, and much more!
1:51 - Episode Start
2:00 - He's the Real B Hen
4:45 - Getting locked up and making it to WWE
8:00 - World platform for music
9:00 - Walking out to your own song
11:30 - Milestone moment
13:15 - Music career taking off
14:55 - Adjusting to social media
16:30 - Netflix wrestling documentary
18:25 - Going off script
19:45 - Nose bleeding from training
21:30 - Getting comfortable in WWE
23:45 - Accomplishments to date
28:30 - Beloved by peers in WWE
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Speaker 1 (05:53):
Oh yeah, we're gonna have some fun today, man, Man,
First this first, how did you get into wrestle? It
obviously you've been in the party century for a very
long time period. O G, how did you get into
this realm? Man?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Wrestle was no way, no way on my radar, dog,
you know what I'm saying. Like, all right, just picture
me coming out of high school. Now, in high school,
I was always like the class clown, the entertaining guy.
But in high school, man, I was a show opening
for a lot of artists that came through North Carolina,
South Carolina. Kawimet did it on the ground. Tracy Spencer
(06:24):
Chup Rock all those people. So I'm playing football and
all this thing and my thing. I got locked up, man,
A couple of times, more than two or three times. Man,
I met a guy named Jack Crockett in the Halfway
House and him and his brother started professional wrestling in
the South with Rick Flair MC and Tea the Rorys
all those guys. So it's like he introduced me to
(06:45):
professional wrestling.
Speaker 8 (06:46):
Man.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I kind of turned him down a couple of times.
But I was at the point in my life man,
where I was like I was ready to get off
the street and had kids. I started giving up. I
started giving her down. You know what I'm saying, You
have that You're going to be having an added two
to that. You know what I'm saying. I don't give up,
you know I'm saying. But I started carrying dog, and
it was like I got sick and tired of being
sick and tired. Yeah, so me wanting to be this
(07:07):
rap star, man, this big rap legend the whole time,
but hitting all these adversities in life, man, and growing
up on the streets and doing this and that, man,
and just being tired, but not I know what I
want to do you know what I'm saying? So I
know what it's like to have that confusion of what
I want to do with my life. Man, I'm like
twenty four, twenty three, twenty four, twenty five years old,
(07:28):
back and forth to jail, trying to do it on
the streets, trying to But I justified it because I
was paying for the limos, I was paying for my
dancers outfits. I was playing for the studio time. I
was like, you know what I'm saying. I was for
real with it, but I was trying to I was
trying to make something happen. Don't have dances, it's just they, buddy, Nah,
I was taking I was doing the dog. I was
trying to, like, really move it, man, I don't want
(07:50):
to be the next empty happening back then. Dog that's
all he said, the dancing. But yeah, but I was
giving a show doll. He was like everybody, all the
rappers back then with my time was stayed day lane.
I stayed in mind. Man. Mine was more like would
you see me do not like entertaining like like a
show dog. So anyway, back to the story, I got
jammed up. Man. Met Jack Crockett in the halfway house. Now.
(08:11):
The deputies was trying to get someone to invest in
my music career, and they got to Bouy to invest
my music career. I become a big rap star and
they can get out of the jail house and be
my personal security. That was planned, but they ran into
Jack Crocket and Jack Crocker was like, nah, I think
you should do this, and you know, he took me
to three w CW shows and I saw Ray Flaird
come down the ramp man and Crockett is like, see
(08:32):
that could be you. You rapping and you dancing and
you getting the ring, and you can mix all this
stuff he was doing in jail with the wrestling, and
you'd be the first of your kind and you make
money and you may investing yourself if you don't want
need nobody else to invest in you. That's what got
me involved with wrestling. Man, that's crazy. You take a
different route, Berdy to get where you want to go to.
Man like and I feel like life the universe god man,
(08:56):
we got resources and tools out here to use. Man,
but we'd be living so fast and life be lifeing us.
We don't take time to like and sometime we'll get
we'll hit that breakwater where you have to take time
to Like if some of us don't learn or pick
a better play or choose different but I did something
I never thought about doing professional wrestling. That's crazy. And
now you get to show show music. I'm one of
(09:18):
the biggest talking about worked out for never even knew
that would happen like that. It's like, yes, my audience, Bro,
I'm talking about like to be going to be able
to go worldwide? Brother, have them singing my song? I
wrote What's up? Uh you a trailer doll? You know
what I'm saying. Like in Tennessee, I wrote What's Up? Doll?
So it's like to go to ease yet or poland
or a last or whatever, and these people singing my song.
(09:40):
Though great promo, Bro, you won you it's a win.
Be easy to get the like. But you just man,
I'm gonna live in testimony for for anybody. Bro, like
to like keep going, keep going. You know what I'm saying,
regardless of how I look, how I feel. What I'm saying,
You're gonna you human, You're gonna go through it. Uh
(10:01):
the word about the rain man. Like most people like
they don't like to get to go through the stormers
and that that ship I was learned to adjusting that mug.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
You know what I'm saying, he'd been moving right. No,
that's sure, man, That's the hell was a story because
that song platinum. Like my nephew was, he grew up
a wrestling fanly where you got in here, it.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Was just like what's up? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Like what's that still?
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Like you coming down the ramp and yes youve gorilla
and you come out and everybody singing your song.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Bro, that's like it's an overwhelming feeling. Man. I tell
you to know where I come from with that, like
you telling y'all man, like me sitting in my son
my studios, in my son's room. You know what I'm saying.
It like that. So it made me writing that song, man,
and you know, feeling a little bit of what I
went through with the song. Like a lot of people
even heard the I did look a listening session last
(10:48):
night at the Cult of Vine Lash in New York,
and I was letting people know a lot of people
never heard the full version of What's Up because they
just see me come out of the ring with the
What's Up up? But that speaks about everything I done.
Did you know what I'm saying? The adversities and being
well Matt and they appreciative of I received from people.
And if you listen to the full song of What's Up,
(11:10):
it's there.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
I asked the question, Obviously, you come out, you geet
everybody playing your music vibes is right.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
How do you say focus? Are going to wrestle after that?
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Because if I walk out to twenty thousand people singing
my song, fuckbout to do this live?
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Right?
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I want to go a fie, But you still got
to stay locked in. I'm locked in. I'm just giving
you part of me before I get in there. Okay,
you can see the other part of me. You know
what I'm saying. At different levels to us, you know
I'm saying. So it's you locked in, you focus, same
way as Rock go out there or Taker or Austin. Yeah,
when you hear that, can you smell out he's locked in.
(11:44):
He's in the thing, but he's mad when you're out there,
you know what I'm saying. When you're that glass break,
you know what I'm saying. You know you stay locked in.
What's the hardest part about wrestling? Though? Like I always
wanted to ask on the all that Bro, I would say,
like you psychology, Yeah, your mental in the ring, he
(12:05):
should be. You gotta land in that ring and know
where you at all the time. Okay, I don't care
what telling the story because these people these already there's
people that watch this stuff, man, and keep up with them.
It's a soap opera. And yeah, but I'm sure you,
like Bro, know that wasn't suposed happen this. Yeah, a
lot of guys being able to learn and be able
(12:27):
to tell that story, not just so much as doing
moves or wrestling fans have seen it all. When you can,
when you can like have that ring a wearans that
psychology to be able to tell a story and in
the wrestle being who say you never stopped learning, just
like in life, but you never stopped learning, you know
what I'm saying? So good? All right, man.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
One of our favorite parts of the show man sean moments.
What's that movie of life for? You know what I'm saying.
Obviously you get to wrestling, find your footage. What's that
first moment? Like you get that first check? I know,
I know responsible would you go crash? You went went crazy?
Speaker 2 (12:57):
First? Big boy check man at first check Bro. I
stared at for a while. You know what I'm saying.
I just stared at for a while, man. And they
come from like hustling on the street man, and like
doing all kinds of like street stuff and horses nickel
bag yo. You know what I'm saying. I was like,
a damn, you're going from my age. Then you go
(13:19):
to you I'm saying, get that at the corner. Wait
just kid, but yeah, get that first legit dog, like
from from from a dream to like being offered something
(13:43):
to going to get the green to like going that
way to get to a different round man, and like
the right way. And I got kids, Bro, Sometimes you
gotta pat yourself on the back. And that was one
of the moments I packed myself on the back from
w W BRO Like I checked Bro.
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Speaker 2 (15:04):
Almost like having that new fit the first day of school. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying that that was my first checkout. Yeah,
under that.
Speaker 10 (15:14):
Yeah, now you put the black forces, Yeah, double up,
I don't about plenty back forces then.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yeah, that's that's a fast forward.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
But like obviously with you being around for so long,
the way that wrestling is like evolved, especially with social
media and stuff like that. Like you're coming out making
music now you gotta change your songs that go on
streaming platforms where you could be an artists Dyer indirectly?
What's that like, especially with the exposure that you have
because wrestlings only grow more and more, Like we got
these dope vs that going Summer slim two days now,
Like it's more exposure now than ever.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah, but it's it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Man.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
It's almost like I wrote my own story. We just
talked about story. Yeah, bro, like what get the country out?
I wanted songs on that. Man. It's called moments, right,
and it's like we came up with moments cause like
life situations us, but we create moments and situations create
(16:13):
moments for us all the time. And sometimes a lot
of good shit come out of bad moments or a
lot of good things. A want of good moments so mad,
it's like we just have to take more chances man,
and take every moment we can get when it happens, Man,
it got to take advantage of it, execute it, man,
like it become that moment. And like, Bro, I just
(16:34):
like I try to execute every chance, every opportunity I get,
man to like XC the next sale. And I feel
like I rewrote my chapter when I told you like
trying to be that big rap star to like go
on a different route to getting with Jack Crockett, to
get into professional wrestling. To now, Man, we at this
era where like social media. Back when I was doing
BRO with no social media like that, So it's social
(16:55):
media now, like people are more engaging and watching and
seeing you in like the moment. The opportunities is their dogs.
So it's like, what the music is just taking off
because my hardcore fans is now being exposed to my music.
So it's like it sounds like a domino effect. Man,
things just is lining up now for me. Was it
easy for you to adjust to social media when it
(17:17):
got the popping? Oh? Hell no, man, No, that's like Bro,
I ain't that old man. He makes it seem like
I was right in the future. Foote you on TikTok
doing your things. Yeah, just so I know you're comfortable
now yeah, but initially hit did you you know what
I mean? Was you ready for it? I was ready
for it? Okay, but I went back from you got
(17:39):
mailed you, so yeah, yeah called Tom.
Speaker 10 (17:45):
Everybody had Tom, right, you have your page that never
even met Tom. Yeah yeah, bro, but remember that what
TikTok is so so big?
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Now?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Like when the parthe when I kept bro, I just
Matt Hardy. I got to thank you. Matt Hardy got
me in. Like social media. YouTube was the thing first, right,
YouTube started, like and Matt would do these videos and
he was like, bro, you should do video on your music.
And like I'm like, oh, okay, man, you know what
I'm saying, Like Matt was putting me on game with it.
And that was before social media was popping like that,
(18:22):
and it just got my interest in my I became
this grind, you know what I'm saying. Like, so I'm like, shit,
I need to get in there, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, YouTube,
any and everything that's popping mask a social media man.
I gravitate to it, man, because that's the way, a
direct way of reaching your audience man. And just almost
like reinventing yourself, adapting and evolving and just keeping that
(18:47):
shit moving right.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
Yeah, Can I ask you a question, like being a
fan of wrestling growing up, I didn't know the backstories
or wrestlers or I didn't know how the nuances of wrestling.
But now, like having a documentary on Netflix, they talk
about what's really going on behind the scenes, like letting
us know about the refs talking and kind of got
in the matches and things like that. Would you ever
thinking to get to that point where like they elect
(19:09):
people in like that.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
What you mean as far as like knowing like they
let us in like the fans like now we know yeah, yeah,
with the Rabbit. It doesn't bother me though the fact that,
like we know those movies ain't real, right. We know
it's a director and they got shit. We know that,
(19:34):
but somehow we block that ship out. And you want
to pick this apart because you know, but still you
have to give the ref the production crew, the producers.
There's so many hands and there's so many ingredients they
take to make this cake, you see what I'm saying,
And when you make that cake, brothers, like a lot
(19:54):
of people can't be executed and they know that, and
you know you could be the referee, but that referee
job is so important. The referee is keeping us in
que stuff. The referee listening to the truck and that
refereece listening to the cameras on there have us can't
walk with you, gum at the same time what I'm saying,
and you got to listen to this crowd right here.
(20:15):
So all that is playing the element everything. So even
though everybody is in the know, sometimes people don't know
how to you know what I'm saying. So but but
like and then putting the match together, it all bro
like you pull them agree together. Man, everything got the
uh they got to move on every cylinder.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Nah.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
I was telling him about that earlier, like how how
it's tough it is to put a match together. I'm like, man,
I will forget step B step. Like, man, he jumped
off the top rope. Some might still be over here.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
What's that where you like kind of jumped off the
script or whatever that happens. If if we got like
a s we got ten minute match. But you got
to put in time for you to go out there.
You got to put in your commercial time. And when
you go to commercial, but he's still working. He's still
working sometime the match before you might go over. So
(21:07):
everything you talked about you're gonna do out there, squad
that we got to change that. So you got to
get go on the fly. You and you got the
rep telling you and they telling them, Okay, we got
like tim, we got four minutes, So you got to
know exactly what you can do, how you can deliver
execute it in four minutes. You don't want to go
over time. It's money, yeah, fact. So it's like a
lot of people can't work under that pressure, like you
(21:29):
should be able to go that mean, you go that
ring and we know what the finish is and that's it, bro,
we're gonna call that out in the ring.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Ain't know what, I'll be terrible wrestling.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
And the ref is giving you times, she's giving you that. Oh,
she's giving you the time, and so you got to
like it. It's or it's it's a combination of stuff
that works together, and you be surprised the people that
picking apart, like ah Man that figure out after that.
A lot of people can't can't wear on booze. I
don't feel me.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Aspect of it.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
It's so crazy, Bro. When I man, I was when
I first started training dogs. Seriously, Bro, I would sit
there and go sit down, look at TV, Bro, and
my nose just started bleeding. So just from like weastive training,
following up, back, following up back, the roads of the
physical aspect of learning the formula. It's a formulative wrestler. Yeah,
(22:22):
it ain't just no. Yeah, So it's sitting there, your
nose get to bleed, yeah, trigles down then yeah. Yeah listen,
I know you know that. But I got football because
I got to tide the injuries. You gotta understand. I
said I was bro. I was a willing vessel. I
(22:43):
wanted to do anything to get off some streets. I
was ready to like I had to take care of
my kids. I had to be a man. I had
to like, I had to. I had to step up
to the plate. So he was like, damn, I go
out of football, but he offered me this wrestling. I
had to go up in there and I got bit
by the bug. Injuries was just they became injuries. Yeah.
I don't have like six seventh vertebrae, both shoulders dislocated.
(23:08):
I had three broke wheels, one cracked over here. I
had my chest storm cracked, just located hip, a tender surgery,
U quat. When I first came back, three metal toss
of bone broke on my foot. I broke that obule.
So yeah, you get you get the injuries, but there
(23:29):
are Yeah. So okay man from a noose. Yeah that
(23:57):
was just a yeah. So that but when did you
what year is he get comfortable in the w W
or whatever?
Speaker 8 (24:04):
I get comfortable? Yeah, like when you was like all right,
I'm here now, Like, oh, when I signed that car,
I got that check. Yeah when I first when I first,
you know, you have to go to developmental.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
You know what I'm saying. I get that call. You
know what I'm saying, We're gonna sign you up. Like, oh, well,
I'm going to w A B. Then you had to
I had to go to Memphis. So I lived in Memphis, man,
uh for like a year because but when they tell you,
you know, I'm just I'm that not mature guy from
the street. Now you know I got the contract. I'm happy, right,
but I'm doing some difficating. I'm ready to go send
you the Memphis learn how to wrestle our way. Now
(24:38):
we're gonna teach you that psychology. We're gonna teach you
that ring wears. Wrestling ain't just wrestling, but it's a whole.
It's a it's a business. So me learning that, learned
that I heard we'll have you down there for six months.
You can be on TV. That stayed locked in my head, Dog,
don't stay locked into your set, playing or whatever, because
plans are subject to change. So it's like, uh, six
(25:00):
months came brou I was not out of there, young
got relationship at home. Man, I ain't going right. I'm
going through like this mental stuff. Like I'm like, and
I'm doing good in Memphis. I'm doing something totally different.
I'm on the contract. This is that. But I was
just in my own head man, And I remember my
contract was coming up, and Bro, I wasn't gonna resign it.
Didn't know what I was gonna do. I was gonna
go back to Charlotte. Dude didn't want to resign it.
(25:21):
And now a road dog came down there and saw me,
and that's when he was like, hey, man, you want
to be my partner. Take in Billy. I said, Man,
I'm about to quit. Doug, I said, this thing' for
me dog, I tried, man, he said, brother, what are
you talking about? He said, Bro, you he's just like
me inside your head. You can have it, just give
me a couple of months. But I had you up
there with me.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Can you can you do that?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Bro? And Brouh, I just like got who I was,
and we forget who we are sometimes, so man like
a dude like him just stepped back up, brou And
I did it for you know. I was on w
W New York that was yeah the road dog roll doll. Yeah.
What's that feeling like? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
You started off in this situation because you know what
I'm saying, you want by for your family, and now
your kids get to see you grow at the same
time they go on. What's that like now to see
the reception of who you are, to respect you get
from the community, and then to see like you accomplishing
everything in real time?
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Packed myself on the bike. Yeah, and I hope I
can be living walkers testimony for not like kids, but
for everybody. Bro. You know what I'm saying, Like I
get told so many time by people man, not just
people of color man, but like all race nationality man,
Like inspiring and encouraging and just making them feel like that. Bro,
(26:34):
that that's that means more than me anything. I un done. Yeah,
you feel me? Where the where the nickname come from?
With their name or truth? Oh what we were talking
about speedy or what? You know what I'm saying in
the street.
Speaker 11 (26:51):
No, no, my wrong, hide row hide go figure respect.
That's what patriotche Yeah conversation Yeah, sure it up forever.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
So I'm like you said, I'm the one I watched
wrestling faithfully, so I know you you went through a
contract thing whatever.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
I don't know if that was part of the show
or whatever.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
I was gonna go. But when you got released and
everybody was mad, like our truth, our truth, go what
we're doing?
Speaker 2 (27:26):
What are we doing?
Speaker 5 (27:27):
Then you come back, you make this miracle, come back
and it's great. You show up on the show and
everybody's going crazy and you cut the dreads you do
all that was that plan?
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Like the whole I know, I'm saying, like the whole thing?
Did you really get released? See? Because you put it
like that, dog, I like I like this keeping people
in suspense now talk about David Copperfield and exposing rafts
or not. This and that like, nah, I can't let
you see what's inside the hat, right, Yeah, not mad?
(28:00):
I was mad. I'm like that and now what I'm
like again, I'm a walking testimony for people. Dogs, bro,
I've never had that much about on all my social
media over a hundred million people brone hundred million. That's
not all just wrestling fans. Yeah, not just my peers,
my employee, but that that's they gave me an on
(28:21):
my chef, I always call myself to Sundown Superman, but
suntann dog dog. But I see that. Yeah, but with
(28:44):
that love man, like a hundred million dollars, I wasn't
expecting that. It's like it's never happened before like that.
So it was like the whole world came together. Man,
one thing will quit on one thing. Do everybody a
hundred million people agree to one thing? Like why can't
be well, we can't be like that all the time.
(29:04):
Like that's that was deep with me, Dog, that was
and my son up to me Dog in the garage,
he was like, Dad, it wasn't no waste, And that
to me went for all the bring this business any
kind of beings. You're gonna sacrifice time you have to
make time for time like I missed so many I
missed anniversary, birthday parties, graduations, inducting, I missed so much
(29:28):
stuff that was. But but to help create and leave
behind and give stability to you know what I'm saying,
make a foundation for it. So it's like that right there, man,
that appreciation BRU was like it paid. It made up
for everything. And the reason why I do that, you
know what I'm saying. Like I never had I never
been to w W World Champion, I never had no beat.
(29:51):
But I've done and taken what I was giving and
made what I could make out of a dog and
made the best out of it. I became it. I
rolled it, you know what I'm saying. And people that
have invested their time with their grandparents, their fathers, their
underst their almost they grew up watching me. It's that
they invested so much into my character, into me as
(30:12):
but it was the impact and the impact was but
it was so received and feeled by me though it
was bro I can't tell how many time I cried
just out like ain't nothing wrong. I ain't saying I
ain't worried about nothing. I'm good for Like it damn
you got much love for.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
It was crazy. I mean everybody was mad.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
I'm like, but every I was, yeah, I'm talking about
mad dog like man. I was, yeah, like what we're doing.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
Yeah, because you give such a different view on it,
Like you come in, you you get that comedy of relief.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
You joke with everybody, but you can tell everybody in
the locker room love you.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
Like I'm like, everybody rock on him, and it's kind
of like you were wunder that. Y'all really like rocking
together because y'all even mommy of y'all, like everybody loved him.
When we're back home, because yeah, that comedy relief. He
joked with everybody. It's like the same feeling. And I
know I looked at everybody, but they was tweeting.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
I was like, yeah they hot.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yeah I'm talking about not even just from my colleagues man,
like camera, crew, production, catering, like it's just like the Who,
but that it was just so much love man, from
the the crew that put the ring up. Like you
know what I'm saying, because if you passed me and
thatw up whatever, rent and win, I don't give you
(31:35):
with that show with that was a show Dog. You
get some doubt from me, you know what I'm saying
that everything worked together. Bro, we met that album dropping man,
Uh was twelfth dollars. It's dropping dog. Okay, yeah, country country,
country Dog. Then my rap stuff is out there a
lot people. You know, I got the rap album out court,
chick got Legacy Dog. I will check Legacy out. But
(31:57):
the white album, man, that's the country side. That's what
he's gonna be wearing.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
It was that on.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
He's wearing them on the album cover. Or No, I
got country boots on and I got one country boot
that's air Force one. Serious dog. You gotta get one dog.
I've been T shirt and the dog. You gotta get
us a picture of that. I got a T shirt
of a daughter air Force one. Won't you wear you
(32:27):
wear d right?
Speaker 1 (32:29):
No?
Speaker 12 (32:30):
You were if they black? Here got you the black
boots on the ground, boots on the ground, the mill.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
No, I can't I with them though. Yeah. He also
like right here he's talking that. Okay, Okay, that was
(33:02):
real real not hearing it.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
These are real, These these are real.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
You you the true on the album, every color is
a different song. Yeah. So it's like story man, that's
hard though.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Yeah, we'll ask you a question. Obviously been a part
of many moments, many matches. What's one of your favorite
matches or a crazy moment? And the matches sit out,
see that you remember still to this day, I can't.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Pick one man crazy crazy moment? M hm damn, what's
a crazy moment? Man? Talk about one of them? Injury?
Speaker 13 (33:45):
You broke everything that wasn't funny though crazy, expect to
get hurt or a crazy mate or a city you
put up here like, I know it's gonna be lit
like that ship.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
What can you say that? Hell you matter, judo or
what if? Yeah? Then the lot come out. I didn't lie, dog,
I was I was jet up. That was young, dog.
Oh I was young. It's your ship. I was like,
what thirty? But thirty? There are some thirty year old like, yeah,
(34:22):
I've probably done ship, they said, before saying pointing the camera,
y'all ab out there? What the like? Because you did
a move came up the top road where lay drop
and I had to flew that week. Oh man, I
was sick. So y'all continued to have bubble guts. Yeah, bro,
du you gotta go in the show. Bro.
Speaker 10 (34:42):
Oh yeah, you're round. Yeah, that's what I want to
run into the fast. No, but y'all, y'all don't know
it in the ring the person I just said after
the math, why that's going through the whole rhythm mall.
(35:07):
You know'm saying, I'm not gonna tell you right, and
the ship myself like you got.
Speaker 12 (35:11):
Yeah, I respect that, but yeah, but that's that's the worker.
When you saw him that, he's like, like, what's going
on that?
Speaker 2 (35:20):
After all? Like look aks right here. None of y'all
have ever like farted past gas, pushed it out and
shipped like one or two drops and shit.
Speaker 10 (35:29):
Come out one or two spurts, true, one of right, now,
I have you no, I know you never been sick.
I know I've been sick, but I know my body
said a bad. Y'all ain't never passed gas or push
it out. And oh bro y'all lie man, you never
had comments. I'm always have a folk. Yeah shortle is right.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
You never shot it.
Speaker 10 (35:55):
I ain't know said didn't want admit it. You didn't
want to doing them. Yeah something now only coming out right,
I'm saying he's coming out by right. I probably have.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
You know, like thinking you at home saying, you wrestling
with somebody. Look, but okay, you're gonna blame me, and
I'm trying of like I'm thinking I should be at
home in bed. I should be, but I'm trying to
fulfill my job and go out and perform for y'all.
Know what I'm saying. I respected, but just somebody. I
got to bubble us a little bit and I come
up the top rope. You move instantly. It was over
(36:40):
with new immedia immediate and it wasn't a lot.
Speaker 14 (36:44):
I have the tight boxes, but it wasn't even not
you said the fact up that motherfucker much because of
that legs you're sitting down, Bro, it happened.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Want. I wasn't expected that.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Cy. That's the crazy right there.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
I'll get you right, yeah, man, what a moment. I
mean injuries, dog, you just keep going, Man, I got
people with my tendon. Dog. I was running and a
lot of people don't know like a batailler injury is
just you could just simply be running that it pops
and yeah, have a move, I do. I'll go run
(37:21):
and I do up and by the corner and the
back flip before I even got to the corner. As
soon as I touched the apron, I felt the pop
and I'm already in motion up in the air, so
I had to come down on one foot. Then I
did the back flip. When I tried to stand you know,
the ptalla, there was nothing there. I relapse and then
I tried to stand back up, but you got to
it's a hole right there on your knees. So it
(37:42):
was like it was done, uh squad, And that happened
on NXT Wrestling Grayson Waller and it's again running dog
and most of those injuries not from like a hard
definitely impact. It's just simple stuff you do though, So.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
That's always tell people like you used to feel how
you want to about the production aspect of it. Man,
for you to be an athlete, to do wrestling consistently
and as much as y'all wrestling, especially with y'all travel schedule,
the way y'all have to take care of your bodies
and be on the road consistently, not staying at home
different hotels.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Yeah, there's a number of respect for y'all appreciated. Man. Yeah,
it's a grinds, a hustlebody. It's demanding. It's I man,
you got to commit to it. How many off days
did you say you are now we have a lot more. Okay,
now is totally different. It's different than I used to
work two hundred and eighty days a year. That's what
(38:34):
it was though, Like what I say, missing those birthdays
down the bridge. That's when we was working Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday. No,
it was Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday. I would go
home to be on Tuesday and Wednesday dog And that
happened like year round. I would be home two days.
Occasionally we would get that thirday home. Wasn't that Yeah,
(38:56):
And a lot of times them, like I know, it
wasn't always flying something like that. The drive different four
hours two hours? Uh usually anything over like five hours
they drive their fly us. But that's like, yeah, one
show Thursday, thursdaynight smikedown. I used to be on Thursday.
Then we do a Friday livyvand in a Saturday livey
event Sunday and then a Monday raw and then you
know what I'm saying, fly home Tuesday, You're on Tuesday,
(39:17):
you sleep home Wednesday, then Thursday right back out again. Yeah,
you have even do that for a while and I've
been doing it for so many years. Man, you get,
you get adjusted, you get it's routine to you now.
So it's what year is this for you? Shit? Man
(39:39):
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Man.
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A salute to you from even it gonna be an impact,
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The nation is still rapping with you. Everybody still rock. Yes, Yes,
I'm more drunk. I'm more popular than I have ever
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that's what twenty seven years. Shit, I'm more popular now though.
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It's crazy.
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Put it in the work. It's just all here with Tom.
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Wrestle was no way, no way on my radar, dog,
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me coming out of high school. Now, in high school,
I was always like the class clown, the entertaining guy.
But in high school, man, I was a show opening
for a lot of artists that came through North Carolina,
South Carolina. Kawimet did it on the ground. Tracy Spencer
(06:24):
Chup Rock all those people. So I'm playing football and
all this thing and my thing. I got locked up, man,
A couple of times, more than two or three times. Man,
I met a guy named Jack Crockett in the Halfway
House and him and his brother started professional wrestling in
the South with Rick Flair MC and Tea the Rorys
all those guys. So it's like he introduced me to
(06:45):
professional wrestling.
Speaker 8 (06:46):
Man.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I kind of turned him down a couple of times.
But I was at the point in my life man,
where I was like I was ready to get off
the street and had kids. I started giving up. I
started giving her down. You know what I'm saying, You
have that You're going to be having an added two
to that. You know what I'm saying. I don't give up,
you know I'm saying. But I started carrying dog, and
it was like I got sick and tired of being
sick and tired. Yeah, so me wanting to be this
(07:07):
rap star, man, this big rap legend the whole time,
but hitting all these adversities in life, man, and growing
up on the streets and doing this and that, man,
and just being tired, but not I know what I
want to do you know what I'm saying? So I
know what it's like to have that confusion of what
I want to do with my life. Man, I'm like
twenty four, twenty three, twenty four, twenty five years old,
(07:28):
back and forth to jail, trying to do it on
the streets, trying to But I justified it because I
was paying for the limos, I was paying for my
dancers outfits. I was playing for the studio time. I
was like, you know what I'm saying. I was for
real with it, but I was trying to I was
trying to make something happen. Don't have dances, it's just they, buddy, Nah,
I was taking I was doing the dog. I was
trying to, like, really move it, man, I don't want
(07:50):
to be the next empty happening back then. Dog that's
all he said, the dancing. But yeah, but I was
giving a show doll. He was like everybody, all the
rappers back then with my time was stayed day lane.
I stayed in mind. Man. Mine was more like would
you see me do not like entertaining like like a
show dog. So anyway, back to the story, I got
jammed up. Man. Met Jack Crockett in the halfway house. Now.
(08:11):
The deputies was trying to get someone to invest in
my music career, and they got to Bouy to invest
my music career. I become a big rap star and
they can get out of the jail house and be
my personal security. That was planned, but they ran into
Jack Crocket and Jack Crocker was like, nah, I think
you should do this, and you know, he took me
to three w CW shows and I saw Ray Flaird
come down the ramp man and Crockett is like, see
(08:32):
that could be you. You rapping and you dancing and
you getting the ring, and you can mix all this
stuff he was doing in jail with the wrestling, and
you'd be the first of your kind and you make
money and you may investing yourself if you don't want
need nobody else to invest in you. That's what got
me involved with wrestling. Man, that's crazy. You take a
different route, Berdy to get where you want to go to.
Man like and I feel like life the universe god man,
(08:56):
we got resources and tools out here to use. Man,
but we'd be living so fast and life be lifeing us.
We don't take time to like and sometime we'll get
we'll hit that breakwater where you have to take time
to Like if some of us don't learn or pick
a better play or choose different but I did something
I never thought about doing professional wrestling. That's crazy. And
now you get to show show music. I'm one of
(09:18):
the biggest talking about worked out for never even knew
that would happen like that. It's like, yes, my audience, Bro,
I'm talking about like to be going to be able
to go worldwide? Brother, have them singing my song? I
wrote What's up? Uh you a trailer doll? You know
what I'm saying. Like in Tennessee, I wrote What's Up? Doll?
So it's like to go to ease yet or poland
or a last or whatever, and these people singing my song.
(09:40):
Though great promo, Bro, you won you it's a win.
Be easy to get the like. But you just man,
I'm gonna live in testimony for for anybody. Bro, like
to like keep going, keep going. You know what I'm saying,
regardless of how I look, how I feel. What I'm saying,
You're gonna you human, You're gonna go through it. Uh
(10:01):
the word about the rain man. Like most people like
they don't like to get to go through the stormers
and that that ship I was learned to adjusting that mug.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
You know what I'm saying, he'd been moving right. No,
that's sure, man, That's the hell was a story because
that song platinum. Like my nephew was, he grew up
a wrestling fanly where you got in here, it.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Was just like what's up? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Like what's that still?
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Like you coming down the ramp and yes youve gorilla
and you come out and everybody singing your song.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Bro, that's like it's an overwhelming feeling. Man. I tell
you to know where I come from with that, like
you telling y'all man, like me sitting in my son
my studios, in my son's room. You know what I'm saying.
It like that. So it made me writing that song, man,
and you know, feeling a little bit of what I
went through with the song. Like a lot of people
even heard the I did look a listening session last
(10:48):
night at the Cult of Vine Lash in New York,
and I was letting people know a lot of people
never heard the full version of What's Up because they
just see me come out of the ring with the
What's Up up? But that speaks about everything I done.
Did you know what I'm saying? The adversities and being
well Matt and they appreciative of I received from people.
And if you listen to the full song of What's Up,
(11:10):
it's there.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
I asked the question, Obviously, you come out, you geet
everybody playing your music vibes is right.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
How do you say focus? Are going to wrestle after that?
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Because if I walk out to twenty thousand people singing
my song, fuckbout to do this live?
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Right?
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I want to go a fie, But you still got
to stay locked in. I'm locked in. I'm just giving
you part of me before I get in there. Okay,
you can see the other part of me. You know
what I'm saying. At different levels to us, you know
I'm saying. So it's you locked in, you focus, same
way as Rock go out there or Taker or Austin. Yeah,
when you hear that, can you smell out he's locked in.
(11:44):
He's in the thing, but he's mad when you're out there,
you know what I'm saying. When you're that glass break,
you know what I'm saying. You know you stay locked in.
What's the hardest part about wrestling? Though? Like I always
wanted to ask on the all that Bro, I would say,
like you psychology, Yeah, your mental in the ring, he
(12:05):
should be. You gotta land in that ring and know
where you at all the time. Okay, I don't care
what telling the story because these people these already there's
people that watch this stuff, man, and keep up with them.
It's a soap opera. And yeah, but I'm sure you,
like Bro, know that wasn't suposed happen this. Yeah, a
lot of guys being able to learn and be able
(12:27):
to tell that story, not just so much as doing
moves or wrestling fans have seen it all. When you can,
when you can like have that ring a wearans that
psychology to be able to tell a story and in
the wrestle being who say you never stopped learning, just
like in life, but you never stopped learning, you know
what I'm saying? So good? All right, man.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
One of our favorite parts of the show man sean moments.
What's that movie of life for? You know what I'm saying.
Obviously you get to wrestling, find your footage. What's that
first moment? Like you get that first check? I know,
I know responsible would you go crash? You went went crazy?
Speaker 2 (12:57):
First? Big boy check man at first check Bro. I
stared at for a while. You know what I'm saying.
I just stared at for a while, man. And they
come from like hustling on the street man, and like
doing all kinds of like street stuff and horses nickel
bag yo. You know what I'm saying. I was like,
a damn, you're going from my age. Then you go
(13:19):
to you I'm saying, get that at the corner. Wait
just kid, but yeah, get that first legit dog, like
from from from a dream to like being offered something
(13:43):
to going to get the green to like going that
way to get to a different round man, and like
the right way. And I got kids, Bro, Sometimes you
gotta pat yourself on the back. And that was one
of the moments I packed myself on the back from
w W BRO Like I checked Bro.
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Speaker 2 (15:04):
Almost like having that new fit the first day of school. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying that that was my first checkout. Yeah,
under that.
Speaker 10 (15:14):
Yeah, now you put the black forces, Yeah, double up,
I don't about plenty back forces then.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yeah, that's that's a fast forward.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
But like obviously with you being around for so long,
the way that wrestling is like evolved, especially with social
media and stuff like that. Like you're coming out making
music now you gotta change your songs that go on
streaming platforms where you could be an artists Dyer indirectly?
What's that like, especially with the exposure that you have
because wrestlings only grow more and more, Like we got
these dope vs that going Summer slim two days now,
Like it's more exposure now than ever.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah, but it's it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Man.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
It's almost like I wrote my own story. We just
talked about story. Yeah, bro, like what get the country out?
I wanted songs on that. Man. It's called moments, right,
and it's like we came up with moments cause like
life situations us, but we create moments and situations create
(16:13):
moments for us all the time. And sometimes a lot
of good shit come out of bad moments or a
lot of good things. A want of good moments so mad,
it's like we just have to take more chances man,
and take every moment we can get when it happens, Man,
it got to take advantage of it, execute it, man,
like it become that moment. And like, Bro, I just
(16:34):
like I try to execute every chance, every opportunity I get,
man to like XC the next sale. And I feel
like I rewrote my chapter when I told you like
trying to be that big rap star to like go
on a different route to getting with Jack Crockett, to
get into professional wrestling. To now, Man, we at this
era where like social media. Back when I was doing
BRO with no social media like that, So it's social
(16:55):
media now, like people are more engaging and watching and
seeing you in like the moment. The opportunities is their dogs.
So it's like, what the music is just taking off
because my hardcore fans is now being exposed to my music.
So it's like it sounds like a domino effect. Man,
things just is lining up now for me. Was it
easy for you to adjust to social media when it
(17:17):
got the popping? Oh? Hell no, man, No, that's like Bro,
I ain't that old man. He makes it seem like
I was right in the future. Foote you on TikTok
doing your things. Yeah, just so I know you're comfortable
now yeah, but initially hit did you you know what
I mean? Was you ready for it? I was ready
for it? Okay, but I went back from you got
(17:39):
mailed you, so yeah, yeah called Tom.
Speaker 10 (17:45):
Everybody had Tom, right, you have your page that never
even met Tom. Yeah yeah, bro, but remember that what
TikTok is so so big?
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Now?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Like when the parthe when I kept bro, I just
Matt Hardy. I got to thank you. Matt Hardy got
me in. Like social media. YouTube was the thing first, right,
YouTube started, like and Matt would do these videos and
he was like, bro, you should do video on your music.
And like I'm like, oh, okay, man, you know what
I'm saying, Like Matt was putting me on game with it.
And that was before social media was popping like that,
(18:22):
and it just got my interest in my I became
this grind, you know what I'm saying. Like, so I'm like, shit,
I need to get in there, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, YouTube,
any and everything that's popping mask a social media man.
I gravitate to it, man, because that's the way, a
direct way of reaching your audience man. And just almost
like reinventing yourself, adapting and evolving and just keeping that
(18:47):
shit moving right.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
Yeah, Can I ask you a question, like being a
fan of wrestling growing up, I didn't know the backstories
or wrestlers or I didn't know how the nuances of wrestling.
But now, like having a documentary on Netflix, they talk
about what's really going on behind the scenes, like letting
us know about the refs talking and kind of got
in the matches and things like that. Would you ever
thinking to get to that point where like they elect
(19:09):
people in like that.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
What you mean as far as like knowing like they
let us in like the fans like now we know yeah, yeah,
with the Rabbit. It doesn't bother me though the fact that,
like we know those movies ain't real, right. We know
it's a director and they got shit. We know that,
(19:34):
but somehow we block that ship out. And you want
to pick this apart because you know, but still you
have to give the ref the production crew, the producers.
There's so many hands and there's so many ingredients they
take to make this cake, you see what I'm saying,
And when you make that cake, brothers, like a lot
(19:54):
of people can't be executed and they know that, and
you know you could be the referee, but that referee
job is so important. The referee is keeping us in
que stuff. The referee listening to the truck and that
refereece listening to the cameras on there have us can't
walk with you, gum at the same time what I'm saying,
and you got to listen to this crowd right here.
(20:15):
So all that is playing the element everything. So even
though everybody is in the know, sometimes people don't know
how to you know what I'm saying. So but but
like and then putting the match together, it all bro
like you pull them agree together. Man, everything got the
uh they got to move on every cylinder.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Nah.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
I was telling him about that earlier, like how how
it's tough it is to put a match together. I'm like, man,
I will forget step B step. Like, man, he jumped
off the top rope. Some might still be over here.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
What's that where you like kind of jumped off the
script or whatever that happens. If if we got like
a s we got ten minute match. But you got
to put in time for you to go out there.
You got to put in your commercial time. And when
you go to commercial, but he's still working. He's still
working sometime the match before you might go over. So
(21:07):
everything you talked about you're gonna do out there, squad
that we got to change that. So you got to
get go on the fly. You and you got the
rep telling you and they telling them, Okay, we got
like tim, we got four minutes, So you got to
know exactly what you can do, how you can deliver
execute it in four minutes. You don't want to go
over time. It's money, yeah, fact. So it's like a
lot of people can't work under that pressure, like you
(21:29):
should be able to go that mean, you go that
ring and we know what the finish is and that's it, bro,
we're gonna call that out in the ring.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Ain't know what, I'll be terrible wrestling.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
And the ref is giving you times, she's giving you that. Oh,
she's giving you the time, and so you got to
like it. It's or it's it's a combination of stuff
that works together, and you be surprised the people that
picking apart, like ah Man that figure out after that.
A lot of people can't can't wear on booze. I
don't feel me.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Aspect of it.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
It's so crazy, Bro. When I man, I was when
I first started training dogs. Seriously, Bro, I would sit
there and go sit down, look at TV, Bro, and
my nose just started bleeding. So just from like weastive training,
following up, back, following up back, the roads of the
physical aspect of learning the formula. It's a formulative wrestler. Yeah,
(22:22):
it ain't just no. Yeah, So it's sitting there, your
nose get to bleed, yeah, trigles down then yeah. Yeah listen,
I know you know that. But I got football because
I got to tide the injuries. You gotta understand. I
said I was bro. I was a willing vessel. I
(22:43):
wanted to do anything to get off some streets. I
was ready to like I had to take care of
my kids. I had to be a man. I had
to like, I had to. I had to step up
to the plate. So he was like, damn, I go
out of football, but he offered me this wrestling. I
had to go up in there and I got bit
by the bug. Injuries was just they became injuries. Yeah.
I don't have like six seventh vertebrae, both shoulders dislocated.
(23:08):
I had three broke wheels, one cracked over here. I
had my chest storm cracked, just located hip, a tender surgery,
U quat. When I first came back, three metal toss
of bone broke on my foot. I broke that obule.
So yeah, you get you get the injuries, but there
(23:29):
are Yeah. So okay man from a noose. Yeah that
(23:57):
was just a yeah. So that but when did you
what year is he get comfortable in the w W
or whatever?
Speaker 8 (24:04):
I get comfortable? Yeah, like when you was like all right,
I'm here now, Like, oh, when I signed that car,
I got that check. Yeah when I first when I first,
you know, you have to go to developmental.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
You know what I'm saying. I get that call. You
know what I'm saying, We're gonna sign you up. Like, oh, well,
I'm going to w A B. Then you had to
I had to go to Memphis. So I lived in Memphis, man,
uh for like a year because but when they tell you,
you know, I'm just I'm that not mature guy from
the street. Now you know I got the contract. I'm happy, right,
but I'm doing some difficating. I'm ready to go send
you the Memphis learn how to wrestle our way. Now
(24:38):
we're gonna teach you that psychology. We're gonna teach you
that ring wears. Wrestling ain't just wrestling, but it's a whole.
It's a it's a business. So me learning that, learned
that I heard we'll have you down there for six months.
You can be on TV. That stayed locked in my head, Dog,
don't stay locked into your set, playing or whatever, because
plans are subject to change. So it's like, uh, six
(25:00):
months came brou I was not out of there, young
got relationship at home. Man, I ain't going right. I'm
going through like this mental stuff. Like I'm like, and
I'm doing good in Memphis. I'm doing something totally different.
I'm on the contract. This is that. But I was
just in my own head man, And I remember my
contract was coming up, and Bro, I wasn't gonna resign it.
Didn't know what I was gonna do. I was gonna
go back to Charlotte. Dude didn't want to resign it.
(25:21):
And now a road dog came down there and saw me,
and that's when he was like, hey, man, you want
to be my partner. Take in Billy. I said, Man,
I'm about to quit. Doug, I said, this thing' for
me dog, I tried, man, he said, brother, what are
you talking about? He said, Bro, you he's just like
me inside your head. You can have it, just give
me a couple of months. But I had you up
there with me.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Can you can you do that?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Bro? And Brouh, I just like got who I was,
and we forget who we are sometimes, so man like
a dude like him just stepped back up, brou And
I did it for you know. I was on w
W New York that was yeah the road dog roll doll. Yeah.
What's that feeling like? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
You started off in this situation because you know what
I'm saying, you want by for your family, and now
your kids get to see you grow at the same
time they go on. What's that like now to see
the reception of who you are, to respect you get
from the community, and then to see like you accomplishing
everything in real time?
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Packed myself on the bike. Yeah, and I hope I
can be living walkers testimony for not like kids, but
for everybody. Bro. You know what I'm saying, Like I
get told so many time by people man, not just
people of color man, but like all race nationality man,
Like inspiring and encouraging and just making them feel like that. Bro,
(26:34):
that that's that means more than me anything. I un done. Yeah,
you feel me? Where the where the nickname come from?
With their name or truth? Oh what we were talking
about speedy or what? You know what I'm saying in
the street.
Speaker 11 (26:51):
No, no, my wrong, hide row hide go figure respect.
That's what patriotche Yeah conversation Yeah, sure it up forever.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
So I'm like you said, I'm the one I watched
wrestling faithfully, so I know you you went through a
contract thing whatever.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
I don't know if that was part of the show
or whatever.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
I was gonna go. But when you got released and
everybody was mad, like our truth, our truth, go what
we're doing?
Speaker 2 (27:26):
What are we doing?
Speaker 5 (27:27):
Then you come back, you make this miracle, come back
and it's great. You show up on the show and
everybody's going crazy and you cut the dreads you do
all that was that plan?
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Like the whole I know, I'm saying, like the whole thing?
Did you really get released? See? Because you put it
like that, dog, I like I like this keeping people
in suspense now talk about David Copperfield and exposing rafts
or not. This and that like, nah, I can't let
you see what's inside the hat, right, Yeah, not mad?
(28:00):
I was mad. I'm like that and now what I'm
like again, I'm a walking testimony for people. Dogs, bro,
I've never had that much about on all my social
media over a hundred million people brone hundred million. That's
not all just wrestling fans. Yeah, not just my peers,
my employee, but that that's they gave me an on
(28:21):
my chef, I always call myself to Sundown Superman, but
suntann dog dog. But I see that. Yeah, but with
(28:44):
that love man, like a hundred million dollars, I wasn't
expecting that. It's like it's never happened before like that.
So it was like the whole world came together. Man,
one thing will quit on one thing. Do everybody a
hundred million people agree to one thing? Like why can't
be well, we can't be like that all the time.
(29:04):
Like that's that was deep with me, Dog, that was
and my son up to me Dog in the garage,
he was like, Dad, it wasn't no waste, And that
to me went for all the bring this business any
kind of beings. You're gonna sacrifice time you have to
make time for time like I missed so many I
missed anniversary, birthday parties, graduations, inducting, I missed so much
(29:28):
stuff that was. But but to help create and leave
behind and give stability to you know what I'm saying,
make a foundation for it. So it's like that right there, man,
that appreciation BRU was like it paid. It made up
for everything. And the reason why I do that, you
know what I'm saying. Like I never had I never
been to w W World Champion, I never had no beat.
(29:51):
But I've done and taken what I was giving and
made what I could make out of a dog and
made the best out of it. I became it. I
rolled it, you know what I'm saying. And people that
have invested their time with their grandparents, their fathers, their
underst their almost they grew up watching me. It's that
they invested so much into my character, into me as
(30:12):
but it was the impact and the impact was but
it was so received and feeled by me though it
was bro I can't tell how many time I cried
just out like ain't nothing wrong. I ain't saying I
ain't worried about nothing. I'm good for Like it damn
you got much love for.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
It was crazy. I mean everybody was mad.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
I'm like, but every I was, yeah, I'm talking about
mad dog like man. I was, yeah, like what we're doing.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
Yeah, because you give such a different view on it,
Like you come in, you you get that comedy of relief.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
You joke with everybody, but you can tell everybody in
the locker room love you.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
Like I'm like, everybody rock on him, and it's kind
of like you were wunder that. Y'all really like rocking
together because y'all even mommy of y'all, like everybody loved him.
When we're back home, because yeah, that comedy relief. He
joked with everybody. It's like the same feeling. And I
know I looked at everybody, but they was tweeting.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
I was like, yeah they hot.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yeah I'm talking about not even just from my colleagues man,
like camera, crew, production, catering, like it's just like the Who,
but that it was just so much love man, from
the the crew that put the ring up. Like you
know what I'm saying, because if you passed me and
thatw up whatever, rent and win, I don't give you
(31:35):
with that show with that was a show Dog. You
get some doubt from me, you know what I'm saying
that everything worked together. Bro, we met that album dropping man,
Uh was twelfth dollars. It's dropping dog. Okay, yeah, country country,
country Dog. Then my rap stuff is out there a
lot people. You know, I got the rap album out court,
chick got Legacy Dog. I will check Legacy out. But
(31:57):
the white album, man, that's the country side. That's what
he's gonna be wearing.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
It was that on.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
He's wearing them on the album cover. Or No, I
got country boots on and I got one country boot
that's air Force one. Serious dog. You gotta get one dog.
I've been T shirt and the dog. You gotta get
us a picture of that. I got a T shirt
of a daughter air Force one. Won't you wear you
(32:27):
wear d right?
Speaker 1 (32:29):
No?
Speaker 12 (32:30):
You were if they black? Here got you the black
boots on the ground, boots on the ground, the mill.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
No, I can't I with them though. Yeah. He also
like right here he's talking that. Okay, Okay, that was
(33:02):
real real not hearing it.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
These are real, These these are real.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
You you the true on the album, every color is
a different song. Yeah. So it's like story man, that's
hard though.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Yeah, we'll ask you a question. Obviously been a part
of many moments, many matches. What's one of your favorite
matches or a crazy moment? And the matches sit out,
see that you remember still to this day, I can't.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Pick one man crazy crazy moment? M hm damn, what's
a crazy moment? Man? Talk about one of them? Injury?
Speaker 13 (33:45):
You broke everything that wasn't funny though crazy, expect to
get hurt or a crazy mate or a city you
put up here like, I know it's gonna be lit
like that ship.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
What can you say that? Hell you matter, judo or
what if? Yeah? Then the lot come out. I didn't lie, dog,
I was I was jet up. That was young, dog.
Oh I was young. It's your ship. I was like,
what thirty? But thirty? There are some thirty year old like, yeah,
(34:22):
I've probably done ship, they said, before saying pointing the camera,
y'all ab out there? What the like? Because you did
a move came up the top road where lay drop
and I had to flew that week. Oh man, I
was sick. So y'all continued to have bubble guts. Yeah, bro,
du you gotta go in the show. Bro.
Speaker 10 (34:42):
Oh yeah, you're round. Yeah, that's what I want to
run into the fast. No, but y'all, y'all don't know
it in the ring the person I just said after
the math, why that's going through the whole rhythm mall.
(35:07):
You know'm saying, I'm not gonna tell you right, and
the ship myself like you got.
Speaker 12 (35:11):
Yeah, I respect that, but yeah, but that's that's the worker.
When you saw him that, he's like, like, what's going
on that?
Speaker 2 (35:20):
After all? Like look aks right here. None of y'all
have ever like farted past gas, pushed it out and
shipped like one or two drops and shit.
Speaker 10 (35:29):
Come out one or two spurts, true, one of right, now,
I have you no, I know you never been sick.
I know I've been sick, but I know my body
said a bad. Y'all ain't never passed gas or push
it out. And oh bro y'all lie man, you never
had comments. I'm always have a folk. Yeah shortle is right.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
You never shot it.
Speaker 10 (35:55):
I ain't know said didn't want admit it. You didn't
want to doing them. Yeah something now only coming out right,
I'm saying he's coming out by right. I probably have.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
You know, like thinking you at home saying, you wrestling
with somebody. Look, but okay, you're gonna blame me, and
I'm trying of like I'm thinking I should be at
home in bed. I should be, but I'm trying to
fulfill my job and go out and perform for y'all.
Know what I'm saying. I respected, but just somebody. I
got to bubble us a little bit and I come
up the top rope. You move instantly. It was over
(36:40):
with new immedia immediate and it wasn't a lot.
Speaker 14 (36:44):
I have the tight boxes, but it wasn't even not
you said the fact up that motherfucker much because of
that legs you're sitting down, Bro, it happened.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Want. I wasn't expected that.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Cy. That's the crazy right there.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
I'll get you right, yeah, man, what a moment. I
mean injuries, dog, you just keep going, Man, I got
people with my tendon. Dog. I was running and a
lot of people don't know like a batailler injury is
just you could just simply be running that it pops
and yeah, have a move, I do. I'll go run
(37:21):
and I do up and by the corner and the
back flip before I even got to the corner. As
soon as I touched the apron, I felt the pop
and I'm already in motion up in the air, so
I had to come down on one foot. Then I
did the back flip. When I tried to stand you know,
the ptalla, there was nothing there. I relapse and then
I tried to stand back up, but you got to
it's a hole right there on your knees. So it
(37:42):
was like it was done, uh squad, And that happened
on NXT Wrestling Grayson Waller and it's again running dog
and most of those injuries not from like a hard
definitely impact. It's just simple stuff you do though, So.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
That's always tell people like you used to feel how
you want to about the production aspect of it. Man,
for you to be an athlete, to do wrestling consistently
and as much as y'all wrestling, especially with y'all travel schedule,
the way y'all have to take care of your bodies
and be on the road consistently, not staying at home
different hotels.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Yeah, there's a number of respect for y'all appreciated. Man. Yeah,
it's a grinds, a hustlebody. It's demanding. It's I man,
you got to commit to it. How many off days
did you say you are now we have a lot more. Okay,
now is totally different. It's different than I used to
work two hundred and eighty days a year. That's what
(38:34):
it was though, Like what I say, missing those birthdays
down the bridge. That's when we was working Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday. No,
it was Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday. I would go
home to be on Tuesday and Wednesday dog And that
happened like year round. I would be home two days.
Occasionally we would get that thirday home. Wasn't that Yeah,
(38:56):
And a lot of times them, like I know, it
wasn't always flying something like that. The drive different four
hours two hours? Uh usually anything over like five hours
they drive their fly us. But that's like, yeah, one
show Thursday, thursdaynight smikedown. I used to be on Thursday.
Then we do a Friday livyvand in a Saturday livey
event Sunday and then a Monday raw and then you
know what I'm saying, fly home Tuesday, You're on Tuesday,
(39:17):
you sleep home Wednesday, then Thursday right back out again. Yeah,
you have even do that for a while and I've
been doing it for so many years. Man, you get,
you get adjusted, you get it's routine to you now.
So it's what year is this for you? Shit? Man
(39:39):
till I just total Yeah, not even when I was
in in ninety eight.
Speaker 15 (39:43):
Man, damn ninety eight you o Jay super Oh what's that?
Twin said, I guess it's going almost Yeah, thats alute
to you for the longevity.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
Man.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
We see a lot of people coming on this situations,
some people on not even long enough.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
A salute to you from even it gonna be an impact,
Like you said, this just happened a couple of months ago, and.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
The nation is still rapping with you. Everybody still rock. Yes, Yes,
I'm more drunk. I'm more popular than I have ever
been in my career, dog than I've ever been. And
that's what twenty seven years. Shit, I'm more popular now though.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Put it in the work. It's just all here with Tom.
Everybody journey different.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Yeah, man, Man, very disturbing man, Very appreciated. Listen, man,
we appreciate you pulling up on us. Be here man,
telling people they can grasp some merchant before we get
out of here.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Shop Club five, twenty dot com Baby.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
You know the bos Man one more time for the
good people at chiying Man, shout out the chime. We
appreciate youll getting this here last was certain at least
man shout out to the good people at Bootma. Will
you know the vos Baby ninety nine ninety nine. Listen
are saying, y'all need to tap in, mate. We try
to back next to the chirps. My boy gotta get
it what you call it?
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Club five to five?
Speaker 5 (40:50):
So I had a house and I had a club
in the bottom of it, and my address was five
twenty Yeah, and that's where we started the podcast at.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Yeah, yeah, okay, that's good. You would have had this
home of fossil what we asked some of the city
right side. That's it. That's the wind stars signed for sure.
You wear white or black horses there for Boom, we prefer.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
The white.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Is white. Yes, we appreciate you though. Bro. Thanks y'all.
My album is on the White Home or someone album
dropped the white albums on the way. August twelveth go
get it tap in you know what this club file
twenty will be back next time. The volume
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