May 21, 2025 • 56 mins
Welcome back to part 2 of our conversation with 2 Chainz!
In this special on-the-road episode of Club Shay Shay, Shannon Sharpe hits the streets of Atlanta for an exclusive day in the life with none other than hip hop icon, entrepreneur, and proud ATL native — 2 Chainz. From the gym to the garage, and even his award-winning restaurant, we get an intimate look at the grind and mindset that power the Grammy-winning artist and part-owner of the Atlanta Hawks' G-League team.
Known for his distinctive style, sharp business acumen, and undeniable influence in pop culture, 2 Chainz proves he’s more than just a rapper — he’s a unifying force, a father, a husband, and a man of the people.
Tune in as 2 Chainz breaks down his intense workouts, explaining the difference between habit and hard work and how he stays sharp physically and mentally. Then, get a tour of his prized classic cars, including a ’72 Chevelle, a custom alligator-interior ride, and a sentimental Chevy truck reimagined for his late father, each with its own story — from horsepower to photo ops with Lil Wayne and plans for Barrett-Jackson.
Dive deep into the studio grind with 2 Chainz’s creative process, where convenience rules and freestyling captures the moment’s energy. He shares stories about his early connections with Ludacris, Lil Wayne, and how they shaped his artistry and business sense. From turning down a private jet invitation with Jermaine Dupri due to loyalty, to gifting Wayne red Gucci boots, his journey reveals lessons in trust, integrity, and hustle.
2 Chainz also talks candidly about business advice for artists, emphasizing passion over trendy passive income. He calls himself a “property hoarder,” revealing savvy real estate strategies that balance impulsive purchases with smart investments. His philosophy extends to forgiveness after a theft at his nail salon and how social media changes transparency.
He recalls his time being loosely affiliated with Kanye West’s G.O.O.D. Music and how Baby (from Cash Money) inspired him to start charging for features. Despite that, he maintains a strong work ethic, often turning around feature requests in a single day to demonstrate professionalism.
Hear 2 Chainz reflect on his youth in College Park, his rough encounters with the law, and how basketball saved him through tough times, even as he faced setbacks in college sports. His stories of loyalty, family, and love are deeply personal—from proposing to his wife on a big stage to balancing fame with fatherhood.
They discuss his work with Eminem, Drake, and the competitive studio environment where legends push each other to greatness. 2 Chainz shares insights on ghostwriting, sampling, and the importance of hearing the full song before clearing samples.
Get an insider look at his establishments, a glimpse into his life as a husband and father who values humor, support, and real connection.
The episode ends with reflections on Atlanta’s music scene, strip club culture as a music incubator, filmmaking ambitions, and lasting friendships with Atlanta legends.
This episode is a masterclass in authenticity, hustle, and legacy —from the mind of one of hip hop’s most respected voices.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thank you for coming back. Part two is underway.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
You do it.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
I'm from I'm from a pre DM era. Yeah yeah, yeah, yes,
you had to walk up on them? Yeah yeah, you
know what I'm saying, how you know, have something to say?
Has not? Instead of like just seeing like an emoji recommunicate,
it's a little different. But I saw and and uh
(00:24):
we just you know, just hit it off. Were you nervous? Now,
I've never been nervous when it comes to females. Yeah, no, no, no,
I'm you know, I'm one of them. I think I'm
a pretty charming yeah for the charming fellas. You know,
I'm because I know what. I ran to the table too,
So yeah, it wasn't. It was just about me knowing
that this was the one more than anything, you know,
(00:47):
which which I believe. I think.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I think I read a stat where it says like,
I think maybe eighty percent of the men who have
never asked a woman out on a date personally, So
like you walk up to that individual like, hey, how
you doing such and such?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
My name as this, what's your name? I would like
to take you out? Now that's too scripted, right, anything
about let's go on a date. It doesn't normally have
it happened. You meet somebody, you hang out, you know,
I just don't right now, right now a date with
me and and my gret. We might be at the studio.
It's just anything, you know, the date.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
You don't like the script, the okay, we going out
to eat, we going out.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
To the date. Yeah, like that don't even sound right.
That sounds like a real script to me. You know,
I think the normal way is you end up at Candyland,
you know what I'm saying, having a drink or to whatever.
And you know, you you might don't want to sell
as a date, but that's exactly what that was, you know.
So yeah, that's what I like to before you.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I mean, when you when you heavy into the adult
entertainment industry, would you come in here with other things
a normal thing that you would do.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
I came here afar, I owned it. Yeah, I'm like,
being from Atlanta, the strip clubs is one to break
music and too known to have like popular people absolutely congregating. Yeah,
so I've been coming to strip clubs. I'm like maybe
like fifteen to sixteen. It was a strip club on
Cleveland Avenue called Pleasers, and they used to do and
(02:15):
we might need to do it here. They used to
have free popcorn like little and that little smell. I
used to be a home gry. I go in there, man,
I eat three things.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
You know, I thought you was gonna say that one
on pause.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I thought, I mean, I thought you gonna say Claremont.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
No, no, no, they don't know nothingbody, Clermont.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
No, I can't believe that that that club that he's
talking about. Actually, have you know women upwards of fifty
sixty years of seventy years for show? Yeah, I want
to see I want I'm not co signing that because
once I heard that that what was going on? You
gotta go away.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
You got to go one time to see it for
yourself because you don't believe it.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I don't. I do believe it. You got I don't
have to see it. You gotta see it. I do believe.
I've heard it from too many different people. You got
to see a man to know that. Women And I
ain't judging. It's men's in there watching, yeah, and women,
but it's seven year old women in the bow teeth
no teeth, hey, man say they say theys ain't way.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Like like you see it like on National Geographic, the
Women on Africa.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
They yeah, yeah, yeah, Atlanta, that's the culture. Yeah. Man,
I think Magic opened his spot in the eighties. Oh yeah,
oh but yeah yeah. But you I mean you you
so you're like, okay, I'm gonna get this. She's like, okay, man,
I can see that. Yeah, this whole spot has been repurposed,
you know what I'm saying. So the seating everything, so
(03:41):
that whole process. They came in. Now, my mom, I
was just because my mom, if she could, she would
come in here. But I was like, Mom, just don't
do me like that. You know what I'm saying. She
goes to all my spots, escoing all that, she'll be
with my aunt's hanging out. So my mom will come
up here and eat, but she won't hang out, right,
you know what I'm saying. But you know, my wife
and everybody else will. And it was just a whole
(04:01):
process from beginning to end, and they were definitely a
part of it. No one was in the blind with this.
What do you think the top three cities for adult
entertainment is Atlanta, Houston, and Miami. Can't go wrong Atlanta,
Houston in Miami for sure, yeah, Houston had made it
come up. Yeah, yeah, that's it right there in the cities.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
With the video with you, I get.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I think it was a video with you and you
shout with Kiki in the in the in the strip club,
Kiky Palmer.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Oh King can't been in hill n k. He hadn't
been in here. Don't know what man having been?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
It wasn't here? But where was what do you remember
where it was?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Nah? But Kei key ship Burgo like me, so we've
been we beig were cool. But I hadn't seen it in
a minute, like I know this last movie it was
hard with a yeah, yeah, but I've had too many.
It's entertainer here every weekend. Yeah, it's an entertaining here.
Football player like I ain't ain't not, but like it's
an entertainer here. It's yeah, if you're part of the culture,
(05:15):
you've you've been there.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Yeah, I would have known because I know Madge or
been on a mass thirty years. Do you like when
when the when the dancers want to come in and
they come an audition, you audition them.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
I've been here for auditions before for sure.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
So what what's what's the idea?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
What are you looking for their particular height, their particular shape,
their particular personality.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
There's a particular I mean, it's hard to tell personality.
He's doing audition because you're not really talking to them.
You get them on stage and it's two songs. One
will close on one wall, close off right, and you
see if they can dance first, because this is, you know,
an entertainment facility. If they can't dance, then that kind
of ends it right there. Blak and dance. Then you
(05:56):
start looking at other other things, and then you know
it's not really about because people like natural bodies, people
like BBLS, people like white, people like black, people like
different things. So it's up to me, yes, for me
to try to have a little bit of everything. So
when I'm when I'm in here trying to get girls,
I'm trying to fill voids for something that we may
(06:17):
not have, okay, or if we got too many looking
this way, I'm trying to bring in something like that.
So I'm just trying to have options for people who
come in. Right, What is it.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
About the script club? The music, because you get some
of the best music in the daughter.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
It's the energy. It's about dances. So originally girls would
come on stage to do their set and they would
tell the DJ what they wanted to dance to, right,
And so the reason they're telling the DJ to play
this is because it's making people spend money, right, And
so it had a direct connection with everything that's going on.
(06:55):
So that's why our records really, when they do good
in Atlanta strip club, they do good all over because
it's like a weird science to us to where people
tip or do something to the song, you know, and
it doesn't even have to have that kind of connotation
in the music, but if it's the tempo is right
and it has that vibe to it, and people can
(07:15):
throw money or dance to it once once it incubates
in the strip club, it could just live.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Anywhere were you all? You were obviously you around. But
did you ever bump into Big Meat when he when they.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Were in Atlanta? Yeah, Yeah, for sure, that was that
was That was the time. It was. It was a
time that could never be duplicated, man, because I've never
seen that many you know, brothers get along and have
they and everybody had Yeah and Shine, I can actually
say I saw that with my eyes, and you know,
(07:50):
the prices on the streets was different and everything, you know,
and I was in my I was selling weed at
the time, so it was like I wasn't even in
the same game that they was dealing then. So I
just wanted to I just wanted to get I remember
just really wanting to like have access to me to
just like sell my weed to him. I would have
(08:12):
to sell it to a few other members around before
I could even just get to them. But yeah, I
mean it was. It was a time in Atlanta that
I don't think could be you know, duplicated. Man, too
much money flying around, too many zero cares given, you know.
So I'll tell you what something else that won't ever
be duplicated. Freak Nick, Nah, freak won't be duplicated either.
(08:33):
I remember being I remember those days too. I saw
from ninety two to ninety six. I saw girls before
the turking was out. They would do it.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
They would a way back when that that would I mean,
that is what they called it.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
But they were doing that back back in here, wearing
no clothes, Guys doing the most, too much, dudes doing
too u dude's doing too much because they in the traffic.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
You think it was like Freaknick, when they came here
for them for that Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday night.
Once you see at Atlanta traffic, it was like that
way back when. I mean it was worse because you
remember at a certain point in time, they even blocked
the intersect, they blocked the exits. So once you got
on eighty five seventy five, you had to go damn
near the Clayton County.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Yeah, wow, you remember that. I was on feet. You
look up, you've been on the walk eight miles. If
you know these people, they're parking their car and getting done.
You just meet people, You interact, and somebody got this
big ass camquarter yes, and you just don't even know
what footage you shot with yourself, but you people would
literally it was a gdlock. So eighty five was like
(09:41):
a parking lot.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
You people literally stopped and they were dancing on the
street and just like and I was. I remember thinking
to myself, I say change. I don't know how much
longer they're gonna let this go on, cause this thing
is getting out of control.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Skin when it starts skinning, When it starts skinning black
folks is over.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
And they remember they shut down the mall, they started
shutting down them all at three o'clock in the afternoon.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
But again making black post Scared.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Last Jane, you want to, I mean, you've done a
little acting, you want to just is that something you
would like to take on, take on a more responsibility,
do a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Of I wouldn't mind doing acting, but I'm actually interested
in being behind the camera. Okay, okay, Yeah. I shot
my first short Felm called Red Class. Shot it last summer, roughly,
you know, based upon my life, and uh, it will
be in a few festivals.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
You mentioned it's like it's a short film, it's only
twenty minutes.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
But it's it's it's really well put together, and so
I'm excited about getting that off my chest and everything
that comes with that. And I'm also excited about producing
what's after that, which will be aligned and tied to that.
So that's where I'm with it. I'm really in it,
and up to now, I kind of have kept it
a little, you know, to myself, kind of a secret
(10:54):
a little bit, but right now I think it's time
for people to really know I really got something special
coming out and and I'm just as attracted to this
feeling of doing something good as I was back in
the days with my mixtape, my music, I just feel
like I got something special to bring to the table.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I meant to ask you this earlier. You got fifty
to narrate your album with Lil Wayne. How would you
able to pull that off? You had a relationship with Pitty?
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah, yeah, they just called him. He either called him
or I saw him because I was in being met.
Before I was in being met, I was invited to
a dinner where I met a lot of the producers
and writers and stuff, and then obviously he put me
(11:43):
in the BMF thing. Yeah, and so you know what's
the worst thing somebody could tell you is no, you know,
I figure got a long time ago if you don't
actually want to know. So, yeah, I got this. You
know I got this. I want you to narrate because
he to me when I was describing, when I was
(12:03):
describing the album, it felt so cinematic, and I felt
like I wanted somebody to narrate the project. But I
wanted to be somebody that never said their name. But
you just know who it is, right, you know what
I'm saying? Just they just yeah, so you know you
got your you got Snoop. It's a few of me
Snoop fifth, Sameel Jackson, like a Morgan. Yeah, it's like
(12:28):
they don't have to say, hell, hey, this is more
you don't They don't have to say their name. And
so I don't know if it just got this. So
I actually wrote everything he said, man, and he just
killed it and sent it back. And yeah, your last
name is Epps.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
You were telling me that Omar, which is a cousin
of yours, helped you write your your twin, your short
your short film.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
You related to Mike. Mike. I want to say, Michae
is a Epps do marriage if I'm not mistaken, But
most Epps are related. Let's just say that.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
I'm trying to figure out why do so many rappers
come from the south Side? The Future, Gunner, Little Baby, Outcast, Jeez, Gucca,
man Walker, Flopper.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
None of them from the south Side. What are you from? Yeah,
like like Gucci from Zone six Future, like Kirk was so.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
You talking about so you talk about Zone six, you
talked about that, which first forty eight the.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
South side would be like College Park or Clayton County,
And so your south Side artists will be Jamaine dupri Okay,
Lotto Walker flock of me. Uh, you can somewhat say
outcast because they were from East Point, right, that's the
south side, But basically everybody else is from either the
(13:45):
West side of Atlanta or East side.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
I mean, did you know any of these any of
these are artists when you were coming up.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
I'm doing Guccia a very long time. I'm doing Guccia
a very very long time. That's what I can. All
those people. You went to North Clayton, Yeah, Monica and
Seer graduation, Yeah, Monica, Monica, Monica I went to school.
We went to school during the same time. I'm not
sure if she she went there or not. Maybe she
(14:14):
went there for a year or two, or to Riverdale,
she went to one of those schools. But I met
Monica in high school, right, I have known her for
that long. Titty well, how do you get that name?
Titty Boy is a homegrown name that I got from
basically just being the only child, a spoil brad, somebody
that's very close to their mom. Me and my mom
have a great relationship even to this day. We talked
(14:35):
every single day. She hangs out with me and hang
we go to the game together. We you know, so
people used to be like, ain't nothing but a titty
boy be you know, you know that's where you're like
safety zone. The comfort zone for me was that early
(14:55):
on that yeah mom so and my mom she liked
that too. She's kind of like, like, I love you man.
She borderline bully. So, ain't nobody gonna mess with me
or her? I mean, so, I'm just like used to
just being a bunner airs. How was it being raised
by a single mother. It's actually it's like it's cool.
(15:22):
I don't think I would change it. I don't know how.
I don't think I would change it because now I
had to be the man of the house, correct, so
I replaced now. It's definitely some obstacles, m but it
forces you to grow up faster, mature faster. You know.
Playtime be over real quick when you when you're the
(15:45):
only Yeah, playtime is over real quick. Liked.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Is there a part of you that resent that that
you didn't really get to have a full childhood because,
like you said, you're the only man in the house,
and so you're a expected to grow up a lot
sooner than say, had your dad been in the household.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
There's another dominant male figure in the picture. No, it's no.
When I was seven, I remember this very bivily. My
older cousin, he threw away the toys I had, like,
threw away my toys. I was playing with like a
hulke coke and wrestling like Charlie. We're not playing with
(16:24):
no toys, you know what I'm saying, throw them away.
And I remember being crushed, like being hurt because I'm
the only child. I'll be sitting up here having a
whole you.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Got a whole conversation, you got a whole story going on.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
We got a whole This is up, man. I'm in
the middle of a w W. This is a whole.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Cage man, the whole match going on.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
You know what. And so, But when I look back,
I appreciate the moments because I couldn't. I couldn't think
like a kid or even you know, I can act
like here. But I grew my mental the way that
(17:05):
I think mature, way faster than my actual physical strength
and all of that. I was mentally strong way before
I was physically strong. But that was due to me
having to do that. And so they always say, what
don't you know kill you make me stronger in this
(17:26):
case right here, I appreciate it. I wouldn't. I can't
sit here and give you a story on me being
close to dying or that I know of, you know
what I'm saying. But I can tell you how much
I just lived, you know what I'm saying. And I've
lived being consciously a little bit more mature than say
(17:46):
somebody else can just go around play at like nothing
is going wrong. Like I have to way back learn
how to do money orders or fill out certain things
and know how to ask for menthol new Court whatever
mentho are and all this old stuff. Then I ain't
got no bends. They don't even sell these stuff to kids. No,
you know what I'm saying. But I'm going to the store.
I got to get all this stuff and stockings. You
(18:09):
remember women used to wear stockings. I gotta go in
the store by stockings. I got to me in a
stocking caf we had. We don't cut my you know
exactly what it is. I don't have to walk across
count of road. This is this is the thing is
busy just to go to a store. That's what cigarettes
and stockings for her and all this old stuff. So
you know, I can't imagine, like, why was even doing
(18:29):
this type of stuff at eleven or twelve years old?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
You know, you got arrested, I think at fifteen, got
arrested again at seventeen. Did you feel an obligation because,
like you said, you're the only You're the male figure,
your only child, and you wanted to do something to
help your mom because you saw what your mom was
going through. Nobody knows what a person going through except
somebody that's really close to that person. And you saw
your mom struggle. You saw your mom going through that.
(18:52):
Is that why you kind of got into that life
or was it something else that drew you to it.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
So if I if I live in Hawaii, if I
was born in Hawaii, I think I would know how
to serve right. It's I adapt. If I was raised
in Colorado or whatever, I would be good at skin right.
But my family, my mom, lived in these low social
(19:27):
economic spaces and they were traps. So'm I live in
these traps. It's not like traps are really place places.
People come there to buy drugs and leave, But it's
like the zoo. They come to the zoo and leave,
but I'm staying at the zoo all day. I'm here forever.
I'm like, and so I'm from the trap. So everybody
(19:48):
around me does the same thing. It's kind of like
neighborhoods and gangs and stuff like that. Like some people
are just it's really because they mom live here. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. My mom lives here. You know.
It's always this special kid of somebody we don't want
to expose to this lifestyle or whatever. But I wasn't
that kid, right, and the actually the fifteen year old
(20:12):
when I go to get in trouble when I'm fifteen,
I'm I'm my mom knows I sell drugs. You know
what I'm saying. My mom knows this. It's not even
a secret. My mom used to do drugs, right, so
it it wasn't like a huge secret. And it was
(20:32):
just this time my father was already incocerated and my
mom just had I don't even know if there was
a boyfriend or just a somebody who sold dope, but
they came in our house after being chased by the
police to try to come in the house and flush it.
Just kind of like made they wear in our house
and I'm I was sleep I remember being on my
(20:54):
little air mattress sleep. But what I used to do
before I go to sleep was eatos and milk. It
was like a routine, a little milk. And that night
I had like I don't know, ten cracksacks and whatever,
and I put the cracksacks in his napkin, and I
bought the napkin up and I put it in the
red little cup that my milk was in. I sat
it by my air mattress because honestly, at the early age,
(21:16):
I had to be creative with where I put stuff
because people will steal for me while I was sleep.
I'm steal money out of my pip. I would put
pants under my pillow and money still would be missing.
So I would start having creative ways on just hide
and stuff around. The police come in and eventually i'm
(21:37):
I'm kind of handcuffed in the hallway, and eventually I
kind of see somebody kicked that cup over. And when
they kicked that cup over, I see the sacks come out. Now,
the sacks. All this happens in my room. So they
take my mom to jail with this dude. They let
me call somebody like a cousin to come get me. Leave,
(22:00):
and when I come back, some people in the neighborhood
because the house has been busted, people that ran in
the neighborhood and just start through my stuff. Yeah, going
through my my our apartment, so and the door off
the hinges. So my friend lets me move like live
with him for a while. He stayed in apartments as well.
And so while I'm living with him, I'm going to school.
He don't go to school as much as me, but
(22:22):
I'm going, you know, as often as I can. I'm going.
And I think that they tried to serve me a
warrant for that stuff, that cocaine and being mine, and
I was nowhere around to be so they had to
come to my school and get me. And so that's
how that particular incident happened. But my mom was fully
aware of what I had going on. Did she ever say, hey, son,
(22:47):
stopped that you going? Did you? Did your mom ever
try to No? No, no, No, it's deeper than it's
so deep, it's crazy, they say association, bring on simulation. Yeah,
it's deep.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
So they take you to Jeviy Right, how long are
you and Jewy?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Like a week and a half. But I didn't know,
like they had because you know, I'm like playing basketball.
So I got people coming up there that I guess
it's it's Clayton Council. People know people, so I guess
people are in areas where they can see me and
I can't see them. People are checking up on them.
(23:29):
But but like the first two or three days, I
was super to myself. They won't even really shower, but
then I got sprayed with whatever they spray you with,
so I had to like take the initial shower after
that they got they sprayed down. Make sure you got
no bug after they sprayed in the station. After they sprayed,
(23:51):
but they was really like shanty. They was telling me, Sean,
you're gonna have to take a you know, you're gonna
have to get that stuff off you. So after I
did that, the next couple of times, I just kind
of stayed in my room. And then then they played basketball,
so I said, oh man, I said, I'm you know,
(24:12):
I got everybody got the same shoes whatever. So that's
what got me through that little extra little week or whatever.
It was. Basketball. And then I don't know how they
figured it out. Somebody caught a pointed, somebody looked out
for me and I remember my name being called, and oh,
is this the first time? Yeah, because one of these times,
(24:35):
one of these times, all right, So either that time
I got called and they released me, but maybe the
next time I got locked up, which was in high school,
again they called my name, and I remember just talking
so much shit to the to my celly's and there
everybody else or whatever, and I gave them my store
and then when I walked out, they put me in maximum.
(24:58):
And that's where like we people do real stuff. Yeah,
And I said, God has punished me from breaking. I
said I was supposed to be in him. They said
Ben put on his red suit. I had on the orange,
so they told me put on his red suit. And
I done, just damn it, not that boop. I done,
damn it, did everything leaving out this cell, and for
some reason, I don't know what happened paperwork wise, but
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they got me in here next to somebody who done
swallow the razor blade and tried to go to the
hospital and the skate. This person is a serial rapist.
The sale is maximum and has the electric doors when
they closed open, but it's it's it's too many people
in there. So you got people sleeping outside of it.
And it was just like that experience was even kind
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of a little bit more nerve breaking than when I
went to Jubia or whatever, just because of the maximum
I could still hear the maximum doors and then there's
just a bunch of not telling stories or whatever. But
that was like my and I've been al When I
became a rapper, I got in way more trouble than
I got in back then. It felt like I was targeted.
But back then it was almost like the situations I
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went through, I wouldn't even be right here now next
to you if I didn't go through them. But when
I was currently in that, in that position, I thought
my world was going to end. I thought my word
with the Jewi thing, it was the most I was
the most shamed. I was so ashamed. When I got
well of my twelfth grade year, I had scholarships to
many different schools to play basketball, and actually, mister s
(26:23):
At just just just my mama. Mama told me, don't
even take all this week to school. You know what
I'm saying. It's not even a lot of weed at
this time. It's like some nicks. It's one hundred dollars
worth with knicks or something crazy. So it's not even
a lot of weed, but I get caught with it,
and that puts a blend. Missie. I lose scholarships, I
lose people, so it make you feel like your life
(26:46):
gonna end. But then I end up going to somewhere
else where I meet these different people in the love
of my life and some other things, and it just
worked out differently. So I tell anybody, which I have
told some of my little play nephews that have grown up,
that it's got to some trouble right now. I tell
them just to live long enough, man, anything, have you
lived long enough? You know, stat of prison, stat the graveyard? Man. Man,
(27:09):
this stuff can turn around and you could just this
just can be a part of your story now because yeah,
I can just tell it so freely now like boo,
And it might sound cool. I'm not trying to make
it sound it's not cool at all, but I actually
experienced it. I had to tell my kids just like
you know, I went to Juveie and fifteen while you
doing all this, like I really like so just to
(27:31):
just to express that, I just feel like sometimes we
go through stuff and it just it really do make
us a better person because now I'm not interested in
none of that type of lifestyle you know, in the hood,
getting shot, shooting somebody, going to jail. Any of that
is a part of puberty. It's like part of adolaccie.
(27:51):
You fully don't even develop or grow up unless something
like that has happened. Like, man, you ain't been shot,
You ain't shot nobody, you ain't never even been to jail.
It's like one of those right things is like I
don't know if you've really been through this, so that part.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Even through all that, you get an opportunity to get
a scholarship. You start off going to ASU Alabama State. Right,
what happened in Alabama State.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Alabama State was trigger. So they called me man, super
vulnerable up. But I'm happy they did. Man, they called
me after they heard. This is pre social media, so
the schools just recruited me. Don't know, I got locked
up in school. So I'm literally down there like like
(28:35):
somebody asked me in a letter, because I'm getting these
letters every week, you know, after practice, when you're good
to coach, I'm sure you use them, but it's two
three players to get like these little letters from people
that's interested in them. You know what I'm saying. It's
me and Mom were getting these letters, and I wish
I had these letters now. But but one of the
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letters was asking me how you think you did on
their sat you know, And I started being like, damn,
it's crazy. You know, I'm a little shamed. I got
caught with weed in school, right, you know, and the
Alabama State they call. I talked to him on the phone.
They say, we heard what happened. You know what, I man,
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were looking for a big guard. You know. We two
hours from Atlanta. It was already some people from my
school that was down there, so it made my transition
a little easier. And when I go down When I
go down there to play, they get fired. The coaches
that were going to be so much interest, just telling
(29:37):
me everything what they were gonna promise me, you know,
a little weight program to put a little little little
something on me. And they gets fired before anything, before
I even ever, I never even ran to practice with
these guys. Right, and here comes a coach in his
own four players, and I remember our I remember him
(30:00):
walking in to my left. I remember him walking in,
and four all the tall you know, looked like Hoopers.
And from that point on, I ain't cared about basketball
no more. Really, I don't care about this. You lost
interests that quick cause he came in. It's this whole
(30:22):
energy change. When he came in, he already had his
mindset on. He wented and brought these players if people
aren't going to use them, and so that just you know,
it just took. It just discouraged me for so many
reasons because I've been playing basketball since I was seven
years old. You know what I'm saying here a I'm
playing here, I am in my mind, I don't even
supposed to be at this school, right, and now you're
telling me whatever, showing me I ain't finna play. Oh man,
(30:44):
I just just did not mess with you know what
I mean. So commenced the trapping, commenced to going up
and down the road. But you leave that and go
to VSU, go to Virginia State. No, I go to TSGs.
I mean nah, I'm sorry, Test gigains TSU. Everybody that
I went to Test Gig, which is a thirty minutes
up the road right so here it is Atlanta, dude
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in Alabama. Right, you can imagine like the ego or
the mentality that you have. And I was taught a
few lessons in Alabama, Like you know, they ain't nothing
to play with it. I was taught a few lessons.
So I have a party at a club and I
got on. This. This is when Park Wind is silk Forsachi. Yeah, yeah,
(31:26):
they like four fifty. Yeah, I got me one. I
got on. So I'm like, I'm sharp Shanon. Yeah. The
club ain't got nothing but Andre. Looker, this is called Andre.
I think it's about out of twenty dollars. Yeah, but
I from Atlanta, and I you know, I've been the
one twelve a couple of times, and these people, they
have balls in the club. So I'm just I'm gonna
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represent the Atlanta culture down here Alabama. Manfore, you know,
that's a huge fight that breaks out in the club.
And when the fight breaks out, a young lady gets
her eye damn and severely to my probably low sight
in it almost you know, and everybody just started to
point the finger at me. I said, my party, and
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he Socty shirt. That's all I'm hearing for. Socty shirt me,
Sachi shirt me. So I do like anybody who got sins,
I'm getting out of here. I ain't sticking around. I
immediately immediately, bro, I just went to a whole nother
school as soon as I started. It's probably took two weeks.
I go to a whole nother school because I got
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I got a couple homeboys at this other school is
thirty minutes. They've been coming down here kicking it with me.
So I got a homeboy to play on their team.
And Tuskegee was D two but they still was good.
I'm stay was D one but they was really like
still thirty minutes. So I go down to this school
and it was very very interesting because my degree was
something in computer or programming or something like that. So
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when I go to Tuskegee, I end up changing my
major to psychology because the actual teacher was my grandfather's sister,
so my great aunt. So it was just interesting to
meet her, and she already knew so much information about me.
I figured she was gonna let me cheat what she
never did. And I ended up taking that and graduated
from that, but I ended up leaving Tusky and going
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back to Alabama. Staate, Okay, you meet your wife.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
I think the question that you probably get asked a
lot and correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Is that they like change? Bro? How you stay married?
How you stay committed when you have all this around
you at your fingertips and you go home to the
mother you're three? How all the time I've seen, I've
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seen what it. I've seen what it. I'm seen what
it looked like. You know what I'm seeing. I've seen
what outside looked like. I've seen all perspectives, you know
what I'm saying. But it's just something about having that
stability and that loyalty. I mean, really that real lord,
to that real love. Yeah, you can't really just find
(34:06):
it everywhere, especially when you become a certain when you
get to a certain level, I don't know how real
a face it.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
It's either everybody, oh change, Oh I love change. He
looked good. It's easy to say that now. But when
I wasn't to change, when y'all was calling me by
my government name.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Yeah, it's I think that's just you know, even working
in the in a owning a strip club, even in
this space right here, I already already knew that. You know,
people were probably just assuming that I was gonna just, yeah,
you know, throw it all away. You know, and I
just couldn't wait to prove people you know wrong, you
(34:44):
know what I'm saying. And girls walk around me naked
all the time. Now, I don't know if that's done
something to my libido because a girl walking ahead naked, now,
I just it's just just be naked. It won't even
like it should just be a naked girl.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
You might need to get on them. Roast bark like
your boy.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
No, no, no, no, everything still worked real good on me. No, no,
let's listen. We do know. Everything works really good for me,
really really good. Yeah, you know, pause, everything works.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
But but that that just does interest you.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
I'm just saying it's any given days, thirty and forty
fifty naked women in Yeah, I ain't walking around with
no boner in here by seeing no forty fifty women.
I see it. So I just see it every day.
Oh you know, Yeah, you're on your route whatever that
roast bark, Yeah, roast whatever you take twenty three, you're
gonna be around here looking at stabbing folks. All excuse me,
(35:42):
stabbing folks trying to get to the I gotta go
to the bar. They come on, now, I got control
over d boat. Yeah, I got control. Man, you proposed
that to your wife?
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Did you know you're gonna propose because you proposed that
the Matt Galla correct?
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Oh, Man, I had to man, that was big. Man
went that's you know, sometimes you gotta do somethwhere they
can go back and it's historically go back and yeah. Now,
so this is what happened. Man, I get there, I
get invited by Pasaca because I'm doing a collaboration with Pasaci,
my Homemisso lay here we go. They let us go
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to Pasacci on Fifth Avenue, New York. We get all
type of ship. You know what I'm saying. They got custom,
they got a lady that flew over the dude keysha
make up from from all this and everything. You know.
So I had already plan said, Man, this would be dope.
Everybody see it. You know what I'm saying. Play I'll
(36:38):
be throwing a little player card whatever, just like you know,
put it. Man, listen, we get there, all kind of
stuff try to prevent me from doing it. Get there,
wait up the line. It's just all type of stuff.
So man, I get I'm thinking a couple of times. Man,
I got it right here in my pocket. I'm thinking, man,
just keep thinking. I said, man, I'm going to do this. Man,
(37:02):
I want to do it on them. So it takes
so long to get there. At this point, it seems
like it's just never gonna happen. So I get there,
we get on. When I finally get there, we get
on the steps and Kesha she look around that's are
going now and then, but they won't come out. I said,
(37:22):
what does this mean? You know what? I'm there like
because I don't want her to see me doing this.
I want to already have it out, you know what
I'm saying. So I get the pulling, I get the
pulling and it comes on out and so I get
on the knee and then Keepsa turned around look at
me and said, baby, you are right. She's like you okay,
(37:45):
She's like, I guess fail or something because she just
didn't expect it. So I think it was cool for
it to be a surprise on such a huge stage.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
But you had proposed before at the BT was twenty thirteen.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Right, No, we just went out then and people thought
it was like that. Like me and Keisha. We looked
good together and stuck and pictures and every time we
would step out and then she was somebody that I
was calling my wife before we even had right, you know,
before we.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Well, you know, you had to be there because you
make that presentation the course say Okay, that what you've
been saying.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, i'd been saying.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
You know how you oh yeah, that's why.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Yeah, you know how you just say that like this,
you just I mean, you know. And for a long
time I felt like she deserved the wedding. She deserved,
she deserved all that before the most part, I was
treating her like a wife. Correct.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Yeah, it's a you have a star study wedding. Kim
and Kanye Little Wang, Lisia, Keith Switz beat Gucca Maine.
Monica tended at the Vasaka wedding at the Vasacea Mansion
in Miami.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Is that what you had to Yeah, I'm trying to
think Monica came. Man, my mind, it was a blur.
You don't remember. You were just so focused on I
think that. I don't think Alicia can Her, Swiss came,
everybody else came, all those other names came. But it
was nice. Man. The thing about that wasn't It wasn't
It wasn't so much the celebrities that came out. It
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was the people that I was able to show something
like my uncle who I was telling you about, who
had all the necklaces that's no longer here. He was there,
Keisha Grandmama was there. Like it was people that hadn't
been to Miami Beach, hadn't been to fasatur I got.
I got the mansion in the hotel next to it.
I rent the whole hotel for everybody else. Yeah. So
(39:26):
it's just the situation that we just close, you know
what I'm saying, And it's unlimited food and liquor. So
I like to show people a good time, like in
this space. I don't know about you, but I like
to show people like you know I loved, Like I
like to show him a good time. Yeah, I like
to show him a good time to bring the ass
back them a bad time. I show people a good time,
and it just be like I had a good time.
It might be a one off thing, like man, you know,
(39:47):
I had to put my mom on the jet. You know,
I'm jumping on. Just let me put my mom on
the jet. You know. It's just certain things I like
just want to offer the people that I loved.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Right the kids aspect, you mentioned that you were the
only child raised by a single parent, it almost seems
like you did the total opposite. W like you wanted
to be You felt you needed to be around for
your kids, that what you went through, your kids would
(40:15):
never experience what you went through.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Absolutely, I had to I had to sell drugs. I
actually started selling drugs at twelve, but they were just nicks.
But it was for my mom and her boyfriend, right,
and you know, it was almost like they gave me
a little something to keep, you know, like it was
forty fifty dollars. But I never have to even go
through that with with hey, lord, heaven a harmony, Like
(40:40):
I don't have to tell them that now. Granted, when
I'm tryna teach 'em a lesson, sometime I may have
a flashback and tell yo, I'm I love you, right,
like this is the reason, Like you know what I'm saying,
I didn't have this and this wasn't around. I had
to learn the hard way or whatever. But yeah, me
me growing up with one not in the household necessarily
(41:00):
not my father anyway, but it made me want to
like be around and also, like you know, I got
the money, so but I just got to try to
like offer certain experiences too, like they can remember like
certain trips or certain games. Whatever I do. I mean,
you know you'll never get it one hundred percent right,
but I'm trying.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
Damon Walliams told me the best thing his dad did
was come home. How do you balance? How do you
balance change? Because you not having having to do what
you did, but and it got you here to make
sure you're like, Okay, I want to give my kids enough,
but not give them too much, because you know, tough
times create tough men.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Tough men create easy times. Easy times create weak kids.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Weak kids create hard times. It's like, how does chain
who didn't have a lot, but you know your mother
loved you. How do you impart instill, impartake the wisdom,
partake the wisdom that you learn. To make sure your
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kids appreciate what you're doing, but not take it for granted.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
That's a good one. I might have to ask all.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
That because you know what do we always say change.
I don't want my kids to go through none of
what I went through, but think about what it made you,
don't man?
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Listen? Man, I literally and this is an inside joke
with me and my wife. I literally got a song
that I play in my head to take cold showers,
and it's like a joke like if like we go
swear in the water, ain't just it shit, be like
it's the ambitious of a ride about Tupac. I play
(42:49):
that in my head when I get a shower or
just take a cold Man, I've been wired to do
something because like I ain't have no hart water, or
we had to turn the water off from six to
six and then take the same little tea thing and
turn it back on. Or even stealing lights, stuff that
they would never know about, like it just wouldn't even happen,
(43:10):
you know what I'm saying. But like even still or
borrowing lights, not if you're still them going to your
neighbor getting an extension cord from their house always to
your house and you see this big old cord going
through your big old orange two three orange cords connected
going to your house. Like, man, it's just unbelievable that
I you know, it's just good to be on the
other side of.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
That, absolutely, you know what I'm saying. You blew up
at thirty five. What do you tell people that feel
like it's too late for them because a lot of
times people don't feel like they make it about twenty
one twenty two, like, oh, it's over me. But here
you are having success later. I mean it's it's not
like you're fifty. But I'm saying a lot of people
have successful little early, especially in this game. But you
(43:50):
had success at thirty five. What do you tell people?
That says? Man, it's and just not in music, but
in anything, because a lot of times people don't feel
like they're successful early on, there's no chance for them
to be successful later.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
It may be too late for if that's if that's
what they believe, Okay, that's their thought. Probe that's what
they believe, right, Yeah, But if you company like me,
you might put out a number one record any time,
Like I'm trying to be up with up one hundred
million for us all, Oh I'm nowhere. They're content with
my space or nothing I'm doing. So it's about the person.
(44:25):
And I also feel that you know, you know, the
person knows, Like, let me ask you this, did you
know you was going to the NFL? Yeah. Every time
I ask somebody that they and it's crazy that it's like, man,
you didn't know it was, but did you.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
It's something about, yeah, I didn't have no plan. I
didn't have no plan. B. I didn't have no plan. C.
That was it everything. I had a tone vision. I
didn't see anything but see myself in the NFL and
getting my grandmother out of that thousand square puts in
the block home.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
I'm gonna be just. I'm telling you, man, So people
in positions like us, if it's like I would like
to tell somebody that that's like man like having that
little wonder, you will know. Yeah, you can't trick yourself.
You'll know yep. Now for me, I didn't know when,
(45:17):
but I just knew, bro, I could just change the
climb of the room. I knew my person now that
I knew, I wasn't no lame. I knew I'm from Atlanta.
I knew how to dress. I knew I was popping.
I knew I really hustled. I know I really hooped.
I know I really just was well, No, I just
it just was just I was just waiting on the
dots to connect. Right.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
Let me ask you there basketball, when you've growing up
obviously frame.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Who what are some of the players that you like that.
You like, man, I really like this game. I want you.
I'm kind of modeled my game after that. My game.
I'm a tall guard, well not even anymore, Like I'm
probably a short six five So right now, according to
(46:04):
the league, I might be a short guard right now,
But when I was playing, I was like labeled as
a tall guard, so I would like watching more you know,
tall guard stuff, whether it was somebody like a Penny.
Penny was my number one player. I got recruited by Memphis, okay,
so that was one of the places I thought I
(46:25):
was gonna play to like live out his you know
footsteps of that type of stuff like that. Penny was
like my number one player, man, I like I like
everything about about Penny.
Speaker 3 (46:37):
There have been some great rappers that that who So
I'm gonna let Okay, you got Cole Drake, pe Master P,
Damon Gillard, who is Gilly the Kid, Chris Brown, Quavo,
Little Dirt Game, Nelly.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
Can play too, David Skin Hoop French Montalant. Yeah, that's
a lot of people that can hoop. Man. I like
that because I kind of can tell your child, you
know what I'm saying about how you shoot. I can
kind of tell your childhood and I like I like
I like that. I like that people was outside playing ball.
(47:15):
You know what I'm saying. We was growing up or whatever.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
So yeah, man, I'm trying to figure out how you
are little baby lost to Kwavo A Jack Harlow.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
I know how we lost to them. No, I just
it just it just it wasn't a day. That wasn't
a day.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
Right, you're for adopted that game by yourself.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
I should have. I should have, but it maybe next time.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
Give me your top five basketball players of all time?
Chain's top five that don't have to be the best.
But who are your top five?
Speaker 1 (47:49):
Shortan Kobe, little Bron. I throw shocking now and if
I want to win all the games, I'm gonna have
to put step in now. Nice little list. That's a
(48:13):
nice little list. You got a few old. You didn't
go too far back. I can see I've been living alone.
I can do I could do the whole I could
do Errows, I can do the Jordan era, I could
do the Kobe era, and I can do the Lebron
are you know they always arguing but none you know
what I mean? So I could really do one from
each era. But if I just had to combine them,
number three would definitely be on the team. And then
I feel in the blanks, who's your goat? Who's your
(48:35):
basketball goat? Man? I just man, I just love that
Kobe guy. Man, because you got to tell you to
a Kobe I don't got no. Oh yes, I got
the number twenty four years. Yeah, how you be knowing
every damn thing? Yeah, dude, man, but I think everybody
went and got mam but this. Yeah, but when they
passed away, because it was just so out in the
(48:55):
blue and I had just saw New Year's that had
just saw bringing in New year and uh.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
I he shot him a DM, like Christmas Day, just.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
DM and going back and forth.
Speaker 3 (49:08):
I think Vanessa just had had had the fourth girl,
and I was like, bro, I know you're trying, but
you just can't get the little you can't get a.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
Good little mamba.
Speaker 3 (49:17):
And he said, Hey, these little mama seeters that I got,
I got mine. He was talking about the one that
passed away with him. He said, that's my that's my son.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
Yeah. Yeah. She was like that. Yeah. And so so
I met I met I met Jordan's once or twice.
He was really nice. He was cool. I met Kobe
many times. We had conversations about basketball, and then somewhat
seemed like he might have respected my i Q. And
(49:44):
then Lebron and I are good friend, Yeah, real great
friends because he Lebron. They are on your record, right yeah, man,
Me and him have hung out. My kids has been
to his house and all of that. Our wives has
hung out before and all that.
Speaker 3 (49:59):
So yeah, so help me understand this, because there's been
a lot of conversation Briannie getting drafted that make it
seem like Bronnie went top five.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
He's the fifty fifth pick in the draft.
Speaker 3 (50:10):
They only got they only got sixty spots, it did bet,
so you go to the first two round. You only
got first two rounds, right, So he went fifty five
the only five player that the fifty six, So only
five players.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Went after him.
Speaker 3 (50:21):
That make it seem like he top five. There's been
a lot of criticism about all man. He wouldn't even
been in the league if it wasn't for his daddy.
Y'll your fourth and so what's he supposed to do?
Speaker 1 (50:31):
I mean, if you're in a position to help your kids,
or isn't that what you should do change. You know that,
you know, that's how you know. I'm gonna show you
whatn't appetism looked like when mine get old, show you
you have you can't get there on you be come
in brother, Hey man, look out, I'll be back right
(50:54):
dropping him off. Now, I'll figure. But it's just like
that's he did nothing wrong. And then and actually you're
seeing a whole other side when Brownie been playing, uh
in the G League and just the culmination of just
what this season doing. He just he's a different player already.
And that's what happens. It's like when kids play up, right,
(51:15):
you know what I'm saying. When kids play up they
get better. They get better. Man, you ain't got no choice.
You get stronger, you do all type of stuff, and
you don't even know your body can do this type
of stuff. Man, that's interesting. That's how it works with
me changing.
Speaker 3 (51:27):
My brother's three years older, and then my next youngest,
my next youngest cousin's five years and it went six years,
and then it went seven years. So I'm playing against
guys three to five to six to seven years older
than me.
Speaker 1 (51:40):
I ain't got no choice but to get better. You
get tough and get to Oh yeah, yeah, they knock
your ass down in any care. You have to be
tough playing against them because they man. And this is
what I know now from my son playing ball. It's
a difference between seven, eight, nine and ten year old
Like body different, sure, how they move, coordination, you know,
(52:02):
footwork and everything.
Speaker 3 (52:04):
So yeah, you mentioned the cyber truck earlier. Uh and
people like dad, I don't want no cyber truck. Eli
musky the out of y'all, y'all you like, Man, I
love my cyber truck.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
Man, I just live. I leave here on Friday night. Man,
I get me an order fries. Yeah, I get in
my truck. I put it on autonomous and I just
let it take me home while I eat fries. And
(52:35):
I tell myself, this ain't drinking and drive right, I
ain't doing nothing. Man, eat some fries. Is eating fries
and that's it. In the car. It's gonna's gonna hit
this blinker. It's gonna stop, it's gonna do all that.
It's so small. It's like it's like me. It's like
(52:59):
whoever run Apple do something? And then now they like
you're gonna keep that Apple phone? Like get off my
line with that, Get off my line with that. You
know what I'm saying, this is k Yeah, I'm keeping it.
You crazy. Yeah Yeah, I'm keeping it and driving it
and so yeah. So you know, with that being said,
(53:19):
I ain't here to sell no product because I ain't
getting no money. I had to pay for mine. But
at the end of the day, it's it's one of
my convenient and we talked about convenience. It's convenient for me.
You got anything you want to promote, You got anything
you want to sell. We talked about red clay, We
talked about everything. Yeah, I got some stuff for you.
What you got, I got some stuff for you. Far
I go, let me do it, Let me give it,
(53:41):
Let me get you some product for you before you
get out of here. We have we have had it
all right, all right. First of all, this is some
hall of fame. Like I'll be seeing you now because
you don't like to cuss, you be like ish, Yeah,
this is this is some hall of fame. Ish right here. Okay,
there's some hall of fame. Ish looking good. They love
they they going crazy about the these the candy lamb
(54:05):
Letterman jacket, that's for you, that's for you, Shannon. Yeah,
that's that's the new Hall of Fame. Ish we be passing. Yeah, yeah,
look for this. Yeah, dollars float and gloat. They be
(54:25):
floating and gravity. That's nice. I appreciate that. Thank you, man.
Appreciate what you're supposed to drop later on you might
have to. And then this right here, oh man, this
right here, this real merch Candleland merchant, a couple of
T shirts, and I think we got a bottle of
Halo cologne. And Halo has sold one thousand bottles of
(54:45):
cologne already called Halo by Halo and you can go
to me and Halo dot com to purchase it. But
the man doing so good with the We were having
a few meanings about taking up another level really and yeah,
you just I'm telling you man, the man can say
I'm talking about he got that from his daddy. Huh wow,
that is true. This the cologne Halo by hend Try
(55:07):
to see what the smell like right now, because see
we're selling in the club too, were selling here Candland. Yeah,
the house mom and the dancers and all that got
some of this stuff around Christmas. Great killan Gary mcgif.
See he watching you think he's something Yeah, yeah, he know, okay,
yeah see that's a real see I know he thought
gonna na. I thought you're gonna have light some like
(55:27):
smell like a little kid stuff, right the grown ups
around here square now on the moji. Yeah yeah yeah
hit upside my head. Yeah yeah, I appreciate too.
Speaker 4 (55:40):
Chains all my life, grinding all my life, sacri fights, hustle,
back price, one slice, got the bro the dice squat
all my life. I'd been grinding all my life, all
my life, grinding all my life, sacri fights, hustle, had
the price in one slice, got the bowling gus to
(56:03):
swap all my life. I've been running all my life.
Speaker 1 (56:06):
M m hm
Thank you for coming back. Part two is underway.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
You do it.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
I'm from I'm from a pre DM era. Yeah yeah, yeah, yes,
you had to walk up on them? Yeah yeah, you
know what I'm saying, how you know, have something to say?
Has not? Instead of like just seeing like an emoji recommunicate,
it's a little different. But I saw and and uh
(00:24):
we just you know, just hit it off. Were you nervous? Now,
I've never been nervous when it comes to females. Yeah, no, no, no,
I'm you know, I'm one of them. I think I'm
a pretty charming yeah for the charming fellas. You know,
I'm because I know what. I ran to the table too,
So yeah, it wasn't. It was just about me knowing
that this was the one more than anything, you know,
(00:47):
which which I believe. I think.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I think I read a stat where it says like,
I think maybe eighty percent of the men who have
never asked a woman out on a date personally, So
like you walk up to that individual like, hey, how
you doing such and such?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
My name as this, what's your name? I would like
to take you out? Now that's too scripted, right, anything
about let's go on a date. It doesn't normally have
it happened. You meet somebody, you hang out, you know,
I just don't right now, right now a date with
me and and my gret. We might be at the studio.
It's just anything, you know, the date.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
You don't like the script, the okay, we going out
to eat, we going out.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
To the date. Yeah, like that don't even sound right.
That sounds like a real script to me. You know,
I think the normal way is you end up at Candyland,
you know what I'm saying, having a drink or to whatever.
And you know, you you might don't want to sell
as a date, but that's exactly what that was, you know.
So yeah, that's what I like to before you.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I mean, when you when you heavy into the adult
entertainment industry, would you come in here with other things
a normal thing that you would do.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
I came here afar, I owned it. Yeah, I'm like,
being from Atlanta, the strip clubs is one to break
music and too known to have like popular people absolutely congregating. Yeah,
so I've been coming to strip clubs. I'm like maybe
like fifteen to sixteen. It was a strip club on
Cleveland Avenue called Pleasers, and they used to do and
(02:15):
we might need to do it here. They used to
have free popcorn like little and that little smell. I
used to be a home gry. I go in there, man,
I eat three things.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
You know, I thought you was gonna say that one
on pause.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I thought, I mean, I thought you gonna say Claremont.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
No, no, no, they don't know nothingbody, Clermont.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
No, I can't believe that that that club that he's
talking about. Actually, have you know women upwards of fifty
sixty years of seventy years for show? Yeah, I want
to see I want I'm not co signing that because
once I heard that that what was going on? You
gotta go away.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
You got to go one time to see it for
yourself because you don't believe it.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I don't. I do believe it. You got I don't
have to see it. You gotta see it. I do believe.
I've heard it from too many different people. You got
to see a man to know that. Women And I
ain't judging. It's men's in there watching, yeah, and women,
but it's seven year old women in the bow teeth
no teeth, hey, man say they say theys ain't way.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Like like you see it like on National Geographic, the
Women on Africa.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
They yeah, yeah, yeah, Atlanta, that's the culture. Yeah. Man,
I think Magic opened his spot in the eighties. Oh yeah,
oh but yeah yeah. But you I mean you you
so you're like, okay, I'm gonna get this. She's like, okay, man,
I can see that. Yeah, this whole spot has been repurposed,
you know what I'm saying. So the seating everything, so
(03:41):
that whole process. They came in. Now, my mom, I
was just because my mom, if she could, she would
come in here. But I was like, Mom, just don't
do me like that. You know what I'm saying. She
goes to all my spots, escoing all that, she'll be
with my aunt's hanging out. So my mom will come
up here and eat, but she won't hang out, right,
you know what I'm saying. But you know, my wife
and everybody else will. And it was just a whole
(04:01):
process from beginning to end, and they were definitely a
part of it. No one was in the blind with this.
What do you think the top three cities for adult
entertainment is Atlanta, Houston, and Miami. Can't go wrong Atlanta,
Houston in Miami for sure, yeah, Houston had made it
come up. Yeah, yeah, that's it right there in the cities.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
With the video with you, I get.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I think it was a video with you and you
shout with Kiki in the in the in the strip club,
Kiky Palmer.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Oh King can't been in hill n k. He hadn't
been in here. Don't know what man having been?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
It wasn't here? But where was what do you remember
where it was?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Nah? But Kei key ship Burgo like me, so we've
been we beig were cool. But I hadn't seen it in
a minute, like I know this last movie it was
hard with a yeah, yeah, but I've had too many.
It's entertainer here every weekend. Yeah, it's an entertaining here.
Football player like I ain't ain't not, but like it's
an entertainer here. It's yeah, if you're part of the culture,
(05:15):
you've you've been there.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Yeah, I would have known because I know Madge or
been on a mass thirty years. Do you like when
when the when the dancers want to come in and
they come an audition, you audition them.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
I've been here for auditions before for sure.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
So what what's what's the idea?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
What are you looking for their particular height, their particular shape,
their particular personality.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
There's a particular I mean, it's hard to tell personality.
He's doing audition because you're not really talking to them.
You get them on stage and it's two songs. One
will close on one wall, close off right, and you
see if they can dance first, because this is, you know,
an entertainment facility. If they can't dance, then that kind
of ends it right there. Blak and dance. Then you
(05:56):
start looking at other other things, and then you know
it's not really about because people like natural bodies, people
like BBLS, people like white, people like black, people like
different things. So it's up to me, yes, for me
to try to have a little bit of everything. So
when I'm when I'm in here trying to get girls,
I'm trying to fill voids for something that we may
(06:17):
not have, okay, or if we got too many looking
this way, I'm trying to bring in something like that.
So I'm just trying to have options for people who
come in. Right, What is it.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
About the script club? The music, because you get some
of the best music in the daughter.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
It's the energy. It's about dances. So originally girls would
come on stage to do their set and they would
tell the DJ what they wanted to dance to, right,
And so the reason they're telling the DJ to play
this is because it's making people spend money, right, And
so it had a direct connection with everything that's going on.
(06:55):
So that's why our records really, when they do good
in Atlanta strip club, they do good all over because
it's like a weird science to us to where people
tip or do something to the song, you know, and
it doesn't even have to have that kind of connotation
in the music, but if it's the tempo is right
and it has that vibe to it, and people can
(07:15):
throw money or dance to it once once it incubates
in the strip club, it could just live.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Anywhere were you all? You were obviously you around. But
did you ever bump into Big Meat when he when they.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Were in Atlanta? Yeah, Yeah, for sure, that was that
was That was the time. It was. It was a
time that could never be duplicated, man, because I've never
seen that many you know, brothers get along and have
they and everybody had Yeah and Shine, I can actually
say I saw that with my eyes, and you know,
(07:50):
the prices on the streets was different and everything, you know,
and I was in my I was selling weed at
the time, so it was like I wasn't even in
the same game that they was dealing then. So I
just wanted to I just wanted to get I remember
just really wanting to like have access to me to
just like sell my weed to him. I would have
(08:12):
to sell it to a few other members around before
I could even just get to them. But yeah, I
mean it was. It was a time in Atlanta that
I don't think could be you know, duplicated. Man, too
much money flying around, too many zero cares given, you know.
So I'll tell you what something else that won't ever
be duplicated. Freak Nick, Nah, freak won't be duplicated either.
(08:33):
I remember being I remember those days too. I saw
from ninety two to ninety six. I saw girls before
the turking was out. They would do it.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
They would a way back when that that would I mean,
that is what they called it.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
But they were doing that back back in here, wearing
no clothes, Guys doing the most, too much, dudes doing
too u dude's doing too much because they in the traffic.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
You think it was like Freaknick, when they came here
for them for that Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday night.
Once you see at Atlanta traffic, it was like that
way back when. I mean it was worse because you
remember at a certain point in time, they even blocked
the intersect, they blocked the exits. So once you got
on eighty five seventy five, you had to go damn
near the Clayton County.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Yeah, wow, you remember that. I was on feet. You
look up, you've been on the walk eight miles. If
you know these people, they're parking their car and getting done.
You just meet people, You interact, and somebody got this
big ass camquarter yes, and you just don't even know
what footage you shot with yourself, but you people would
literally it was a gdlock. So eighty five was like
(09:41):
a parking lot.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
You people literally stopped and they were dancing on the
street and just like and I was. I remember thinking
to myself, I say change. I don't know how much
longer they're gonna let this go on, cause this thing
is getting out of control.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Skin when it starts skinning, When it starts skinning black
folks is over.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
And they remember they shut down the mall, they started
shutting down them all at three o'clock in the afternoon.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
But again making black post Scared.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Last Jane, you want to, I mean, you've done a
little acting, you want to just is that something you
would like to take on, take on a more responsibility,
do a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Of I wouldn't mind doing acting, but I'm actually interested
in being behind the camera. Okay, okay, Yeah. I shot
my first short Felm called Red Class. Shot it last summer, roughly,
you know, based upon my life, and uh, it will
be in a few festivals.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
You mentioned it's like it's a short film, it's only
twenty minutes.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
But it's it's it's really well put together, and so
I'm excited about getting that off my chest and everything
that comes with that. And I'm also excited about producing
what's after that, which will be aligned and tied to that.
So that's where I'm with it. I'm really in it,
and up to now, I kind of have kept it
a little, you know, to myself, kind of a secret
(10:54):
a little bit, but right now I think it's time
for people to really know I really got something special
coming out and and I'm just as attracted to this
feeling of doing something good as I was back in
the days with my mixtape, my music, I just feel
like I got something special to bring to the table.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I meant to ask you this earlier. You got fifty
to narrate your album with Lil Wayne. How would you
able to pull that off? You had a relationship with Pitty?
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah, yeah, they just called him. He either called him
or I saw him because I was in being met.
Before I was in being met, I was invited to
a dinner where I met a lot of the producers
and writers and stuff, and then obviously he put me
(11:43):
in the BMF thing. Yeah, and so you know what's
the worst thing somebody could tell you is no, you know,
I figure got a long time ago if you don't
actually want to know. So, yeah, I got this. You
know I got this. I want you to narrate because
he to me when I was describing, when I was
(12:03):
describing the album, it felt so cinematic, and I felt
like I wanted somebody to narrate the project. But I
wanted to be somebody that never said their name. But
you just know who it is, right, you know what
I'm saying? Just they just yeah, so you know you
got your you got Snoop. It's a few of me
Snoop fifth, Sameel Jackson, like a Morgan. Yeah, it's like
(12:28):
they don't have to say, hell, hey, this is more
you don't They don't have to say their name. And
so I don't know if it just got this. So
I actually wrote everything he said, man, and he just
killed it and sent it back. And yeah, your last
name is Epps.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
You were telling me that Omar, which is a cousin
of yours, helped you write your your twin, your short
your short film.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
You related to Mike. Mike. I want to say, Michae
is a Epps do marriage if I'm not mistaken, But
most Epps are related. Let's just say that.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
I'm trying to figure out why do so many rappers
come from the south Side? The Future, Gunner, Little Baby, Outcast, Jeez, Gucca,
man Walker, Flopper.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
None of them from the south Side. What are you from? Yeah,
like like Gucci from Zone six Future, like Kirk was so.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
You talking about so you talk about Zone six, you
talked about that, which first forty eight the.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
South side would be like College Park or Clayton County,
And so your south Side artists will be Jamaine dupri Okay,
Lotto Walker flock of me. Uh, you can somewhat say
outcast because they were from East Point, right, that's the
south side, But basically everybody else is from either the
(13:45):
West side of Atlanta or East side.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
I mean, did you know any of these any of
these are artists when you were coming up.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
I'm doing Guccia a very long time. I'm doing Guccia
a very very long time. That's what I can. All
those people. You went to North Clayton, Yeah, Monica and
Seer graduation, Yeah, Monica, Monica, Monica I went to school.
We went to school during the same time. I'm not
sure if she she went there or not. Maybe she
(14:14):
went there for a year or two, or to Riverdale,
she went to one of those schools. But I met
Monica in high school, right, I have known her for
that long. Titty well, how do you get that name?
Titty Boy is a homegrown name that I got from
basically just being the only child, a spoil brad, somebody
that's very close to their mom. Me and my mom
have a great relationship even to this day. We talked
(14:35):
every single day. She hangs out with me and hang
we go to the game together. We you know, so
people used to be like, ain't nothing but a titty
boy be you know, you know that's where you're like
safety zone. The comfort zone for me was that early
(14:55):
on that yeah mom so and my mom she liked
that too. She's kind of like, like, I love you man.
She borderline bully. So, ain't nobody gonna mess with me
or her? I mean, so, I'm just like used to
just being a bunner airs. How was it being raised
by a single mother. It's actually it's like it's cool.
(15:22):
I don't think I would change it. I don't know how.
I don't think I would change it because now I
had to be the man of the house, correct, so
I replaced now. It's definitely some obstacles, m but it
forces you to grow up faster, mature faster. You know.
Playtime be over real quick when you when you're the
(15:45):
only Yeah, playtime is over real quick. Liked.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Is there a part of you that resent that that
you didn't really get to have a full childhood because,
like you said, you're the only man in the house,
and so you're a expected to grow up a lot
sooner than say, had your dad been in the household.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
There's another dominant male figure in the picture. No, it's no.
When I was seven, I remember this very bivily. My
older cousin, he threw away the toys I had, like,
threw away my toys. I was playing with like a
hulke coke and wrestling like Charlie. We're not playing with
(16:24):
no toys, you know what I'm saying, throw them away.
And I remember being crushed, like being hurt because I'm
the only child. I'll be sitting up here having a
whole you.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Got a whole conversation, you got a whole story going on.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
We got a whole This is up, man. I'm in
the middle of a w W. This is a whole.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Cage man, the whole match going on.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
You know what. And so, But when I look back,
I appreciate the moments because I couldn't. I couldn't think
like a kid or even you know, I can act
like here. But I grew my mental the way that
(17:05):
I think mature, way faster than my actual physical strength
and all of that. I was mentally strong way before
I was physically strong. But that was due to me
having to do that. And so they always say, what
don't you know kill you make me stronger in this
(17:26):
case right here, I appreciate it. I wouldn't. I can't
sit here and give you a story on me being
close to dying or that I know of, you know
what I'm saying. But I can tell you how much
I just lived, you know what I'm saying. And I've
lived being consciously a little bit more mature than say
(17:46):
somebody else can just go around play at like nothing
is going wrong. Like I have to way back learn
how to do money orders or fill out certain things
and know how to ask for menthol new Court whatever
mentho are and all this old stuff. Then I ain't
got no bends. They don't even sell these stuff to kids. No,
you know what I'm saying. But I'm going to the store.
I got to get all this stuff and stockings. You
(18:09):
remember women used to wear stockings. I gotta go in
the store by stockings. I got to me in a
stocking caf we had. We don't cut my you know
exactly what it is. I don't have to walk across
count of road. This is this is the thing is
busy just to go to a store. That's what cigarettes
and stockings for her and all this old stuff. So
you know, I can't imagine, like, why was even doing
(18:29):
this type of stuff at eleven or twelve years old?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
You know, you got arrested, I think at fifteen, got
arrested again at seventeen. Did you feel an obligation because,
like you said, you're the only You're the male figure,
your only child, and you wanted to do something to
help your mom because you saw what your mom was
going through. Nobody knows what a person going through except
somebody that's really close to that person. And you saw
your mom struggle. You saw your mom going through that.
(18:52):
Is that why you kind of got into that life
or was it something else that drew you to it.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
So if I if I live in Hawaii, if I
was born in Hawaii, I think I would know how
to serve right. It's I adapt. If I was raised
in Colorado or whatever, I would be good at skin right.
But my family, my mom, lived in these low social
(19:27):
economic spaces and they were traps. So'm I live in
these traps. It's not like traps are really place places.
People come there to buy drugs and leave, But it's
like the zoo. They come to the zoo and leave,
but I'm staying at the zoo all day. I'm here forever.
I'm like, and so I'm from the trap. So everybody
(19:48):
around me does the same thing. It's kind of like
neighborhoods and gangs and stuff like that. Like some people
are just it's really because they mom live here. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. My mom lives here. You know.
It's always this special kid of somebody we don't want
to expose to this lifestyle or whatever. But I wasn't
that kid, right, and the actually the fifteen year old
(20:12):
when I go to get in trouble when I'm fifteen,
I'm I'm my mom knows I sell drugs. You know
what I'm saying. My mom knows this. It's not even
a secret. My mom used to do drugs, right, so
it it wasn't like a huge secret. And it was
(20:32):
just this time my father was already incocerated and my
mom just had I don't even know if there was
a boyfriend or just a somebody who sold dope, but
they came in our house after being chased by the
police to try to come in the house and flush it.
Just kind of like made they wear in our house
and I'm I was sleep I remember being on my
(20:54):
little air mattress sleep. But what I used to do
before I go to sleep was eatos and milk. It
was like a routine, a little milk. And that night
I had like I don't know, ten cracksacks and whatever,
and I put the cracksacks in his napkin, and I
bought the napkin up and I put it in the
red little cup that my milk was in. I sat
it by my air mattress because honestly, at the early age,
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I had to be creative with where I put stuff
because people will steal for me while I was sleep.
I'm steal money out of my pip. I would put
pants under my pillow and money still would be missing.
So I would start having creative ways on just hide
and stuff around. The police come in and eventually i'm
(21:37):
I'm kind of handcuffed in the hallway, and eventually I
kind of see somebody kicked that cup over. And when
they kicked that cup over, I see the sacks come out. Now,
the sacks. All this happens in my room. So they
take my mom to jail with this dude. They let
me call somebody like a cousin to come get me. Leave,
(22:00):
and when I come back, some people in the neighborhood
because the house has been busted, people that ran in
the neighborhood and just start through my stuff. Yeah, going
through my my our apartment, so and the door off
the hinges. So my friend lets me move like live
with him for a while. He stayed in apartments as well.
And so while I'm living with him, I'm going to school.
He don't go to school as much as me, but
(22:22):
I'm going, you know, as often as I can. I'm going.
And I think that they tried to serve me a
warrant for that stuff, that cocaine and being mine, and
I was nowhere around to be so they had to
come to my school and get me. And so that's
how that particular incident happened. But my mom was fully
aware of what I had going on. Did she ever say, hey, son,
(22:47):
stopped that you going? Did you? Did your mom ever
try to No? No, no, No, it's deeper than it's
so deep, it's crazy, they say association, bring on simulation. Yeah,
it's deep.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
So they take you to Jeviy Right, how long are
you and Jewy?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Like a week and a half. But I didn't know,
like they had because you know, I'm like playing basketball.
So I got people coming up there that I guess
it's it's Clayton Council. People know people, so I guess
people are in areas where they can see me and
I can't see them. People are checking up on them.
(23:29):
But but like the first two or three days, I
was super to myself. They won't even really shower, but
then I got sprayed with whatever they spray you with,
so I had to like take the initial shower after
that they got they sprayed down. Make sure you got
no bug after they sprayed in the station. After they sprayed,
(23:51):
but they was really like shanty. They was telling me, Sean,
you're gonna have to take a you know, you're gonna
have to get that stuff off you. So after I
did that, the next couple of times, I just kind
of stayed in my room. And then then they played basketball,
so I said, oh man, I said, I'm you know,
(24:12):
I got everybody got the same shoes whatever. So that's
what got me through that little extra little week or whatever.
It was. Basketball. And then I don't know how they
figured it out. Somebody caught a pointed, somebody looked out
for me and I remember my name being called, and oh,
is this the first time? Yeah, because one of these times,
(24:35):
one of these times, all right, So either that time
I got called and they released me, but maybe the
next time I got locked up, which was in high school,
again they called my name, and I remember just talking
so much shit to the to my celly's and there
everybody else or whatever, and I gave them my store
and then when I walked out, they put me in maximum.
(24:58):
And that's where like we people do real stuff. Yeah,
And I said, God has punished me from breaking. I
said I was supposed to be in him. They said
Ben put on his red suit. I had on the orange,
so they told me put on his red suit. And
I done, just damn it, not that boop. I done,
damn it, did everything leaving out this cell, and for
some reason, I don't know what happened paperwork wise, but
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they got me in here next to somebody who done
swallow the razor blade and tried to go to the
hospital and the skate. This person is a serial rapist.
The sale is maximum and has the electric doors when
they closed open, but it's it's it's too many people
in there. So you got people sleeping outside of it.
And it was just like that experience was even kind
(25:39):
of a little bit more nerve breaking than when I
went to Jubia or whatever, just because of the maximum
I could still hear the maximum doors and then there's
just a bunch of not telling stories or whatever. But
that was like my and I've been al When I
became a rapper, I got in way more trouble than
I got in back then. It felt like I was targeted.
But back then it was almost like the situations I
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went through, I wouldn't even be right here now next
to you if I didn't go through them. But when
I was currently in that, in that position, I thought
my world was going to end. I thought my word
with the Jewi thing, it was the most I was
the most shamed. I was so ashamed. When I got
well of my twelfth grade year, I had scholarships to
many different schools to play basketball, and actually, mister s
(26:23):
At just just just my mama. Mama told me, don't
even take all this week to school. You know what
I'm saying. It's not even a lot of weed at
this time. It's like some nicks. It's one hundred dollars
worth with knicks or something crazy. So it's not even
a lot of weed, but I get caught with it,
and that puts a blend. Missie. I lose scholarships, I
lose people, so it make you feel like your life
(26:46):
gonna end. But then I end up going to somewhere
else where I meet these different people in the love
of my life and some other things, and it just
worked out differently. So I tell anybody, which I have
told some of my little play nephews that have grown up,
that it's got to some trouble right now. I tell
them just to live long enough, man, anything, have you
lived long enough? You know, stat of prison, stat the graveyard? Man. Man,
(27:09):
this stuff can turn around and you could just this
just can be a part of your story now because yeah,
I can just tell it so freely now like boo,
And it might sound cool. I'm not trying to make
it sound it's not cool at all, but I actually
experienced it. I had to tell my kids just like
you know, I went to Juveie and fifteen while you
doing all this, like I really like so just to
(27:31):
just to express that, I just feel like sometimes we
go through stuff and it just it really do make
us a better person because now I'm not interested in
none of that type of lifestyle you know, in the hood,
getting shot, shooting somebody, going to jail. Any of that
is a part of puberty. It's like part of adolaccie.
(27:51):
You fully don't even develop or grow up unless something
like that has happened. Like, man, you ain't been shot,
You ain't shot nobody, you ain't never even been to jail.
It's like one of those right things is like I
don't know if you've really been through this, so that part.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Even through all that, you get an opportunity to get
a scholarship. You start off going to ASU Alabama State. Right,
what happened in Alabama State.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Alabama State was trigger. So they called me man, super
vulnerable up. But I'm happy they did. Man, they called
me after they heard. This is pre social media, so
the schools just recruited me. Don't know, I got locked
up in school. So I'm literally down there like like
(28:35):
somebody asked me in a letter, because I'm getting these
letters every week, you know, after practice, when you're good
to coach, I'm sure you use them, but it's two
three players to get like these little letters from people
that's interested in them. You know what I'm saying. It's
me and Mom were getting these letters, and I wish
I had these letters now. But but one of the
(28:56):
letters was asking me how you think you did on
their sat you know, And I started being like, damn,
it's crazy. You know, I'm a little shamed. I got
caught with weed in school, right, you know, and the
Alabama State they call. I talked to him on the phone.
They say, we heard what happened. You know what, I man,
(29:17):
were looking for a big guard. You know. We two
hours from Atlanta. It was already some people from my
school that was down there, so it made my transition
a little easier. And when I go down When I
go down there to play, they get fired. The coaches
that were going to be so much interest, just telling
(29:37):
me everything what they were gonna promise me, you know,
a little weight program to put a little little little
something on me. And they gets fired before anything, before
I even ever, I never even ran to practice with
these guys. Right, and here comes a coach in his
own four players, and I remember our I remember him
(30:00):
walking in to my left. I remember him walking in,
and four all the tall you know, looked like Hoopers.
And from that point on, I ain't cared about basketball
no more. Really, I don't care about this. You lost
interests that quick cause he came in. It's this whole
(30:22):
energy change. When he came in, he already had his
mindset on. He wented and brought these players if people
aren't going to use them, and so that just you know,
it just took. It just discouraged me for so many
reasons because I've been playing basketball since I was seven
years old. You know what I'm saying here a I'm
playing here, I am in my mind, I don't even
supposed to be at this school, right, and now you're
telling me whatever, showing me I ain't finna play. Oh man,
(30:44):
I just just did not mess with you know what
I mean. So commenced the trapping, commenced to going up
and down the road. But you leave that and go
to VSU, go to Virginia State. No, I go to TSGs.
I mean nah, I'm sorry, Test gigains TSU. Everybody that
I went to Test Gig, which is a thirty minutes
up the road right so here it is Atlanta, dude
(31:04):
in Alabama. Right, you can imagine like the ego or
the mentality that you have. And I was taught a
few lessons in Alabama, Like you know, they ain't nothing
to play with it. I was taught a few lessons.
So I have a party at a club and I
got on. This. This is when Park Wind is silk Forsachi. Yeah, yeah,
(31:26):
they like four fifty. Yeah, I got me one. I
got on. So I'm like, I'm sharp Shanon. Yeah. The
club ain't got nothing but Andre. Looker, this is called Andre.
I think it's about out of twenty dollars. Yeah, but
I from Atlanta, and I you know, I've been the
one twelve a couple of times, and these people, they
have balls in the club. So I'm just I'm gonna
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represent the Atlanta culture down here Alabama. Manfore, you know,
that's a huge fight that breaks out in the club.
And when the fight breaks out, a young lady gets
her eye damn and severely to my probably low sight
in it almost you know, and everybody just started to
point the finger at me. I said, my party, and
(32:11):
he Socty shirt. That's all I'm hearing for. Socty shirt me,
Sachi shirt me. So I do like anybody who got sins,
I'm getting out of here. I ain't sticking around. I
immediately immediately, bro, I just went to a whole nother
school as soon as I started. It's probably took two weeks.
I go to a whole nother school because I got
(32:32):
I got a couple homeboys at this other school is
thirty minutes. They've been coming down here kicking it with me.
So I got a homeboy to play on their team.
And Tuskegee was D two but they still was good.
I'm stay was D one but they was really like
still thirty minutes. So I go down to this school
and it was very very interesting because my degree was
something in computer or programming or something like that. So
(32:55):
when I go to Tuskegee, I end up changing my
major to psychology because the actual teacher was my grandfather's sister,
so my great aunt. So it was just interesting to
meet her, and she already knew so much information about me.
I figured she was gonna let me cheat what she
never did. And I ended up taking that and graduated
from that, but I ended up leaving Tusky and going
(33:17):
back to Alabama. Staate, Okay, you meet your wife.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
I think the question that you probably get asked a
lot and correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Is that they like change? Bro? How you stay married?
How you stay committed when you have all this around
you at your fingertips and you go home to the
mother you're three? How all the time I've seen, I've
(33:46):
seen what it. I've seen what it. I'm seen what
it looked like. You know what I'm seeing. I've seen
what outside looked like. I've seen all perspectives, you know
what I'm saying. But it's just something about having that
stability and that loyalty. I mean, really that real lord,
to that real love. Yeah, you can't really just find
(34:06):
it everywhere, especially when you become a certain when you
get to a certain level, I don't know how real
a face it.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
It's either everybody, oh change, Oh I love change. He
looked good. It's easy to say that now. But when
I wasn't to change, when y'all was calling me by
my government name.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Yeah, it's I think that's just you know, even working
in the in a owning a strip club, even in
this space right here, I already already knew that. You know,
people were probably just assuming that I was gonna just, yeah,
you know, throw it all away. You know, and I
just couldn't wait to prove people you know wrong, you
(34:44):
know what I'm saying. And girls walk around me naked
all the time. Now, I don't know if that's done
something to my libido because a girl walking ahead naked, now,
I just it's just just be naked. It won't even
like it should just be a naked girl.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
You might need to get on them. Roast bark like
your boy.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
No, no, no, no, everything still worked real good on me. No, no,
let's listen. We do know. Everything works really good for me,
really really good. Yeah, you know, pause, everything works.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
But but that that just does interest you.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
I'm just saying it's any given days, thirty and forty
fifty naked women in Yeah, I ain't walking around with
no boner in here by seeing no forty fifty women.
I see it. So I just see it every day.
Oh you know, Yeah, you're on your route whatever that
roast bark, Yeah, roast whatever you take twenty three, you're
gonna be around here looking at stabbing folks. All excuse me,
(35:42):
stabbing folks trying to get to the I gotta go
to the bar. They come on, now, I got control
over d boat. Yeah, I got control. Man, you proposed
that to your wife?
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Did you know you're gonna propose because you proposed that
the Matt Galla correct?
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Oh, Man, I had to man, that was big. Man
went that's you know, sometimes you gotta do somethwhere they
can go back and it's historically go back and yeah. Now,
so this is what happened. Man, I get there, I
get invited by Pasaca because I'm doing a collaboration with Pasaci,
my Homemisso lay here we go. They let us go
(36:17):
to Pasacci on Fifth Avenue, New York. We get all
type of ship. You know what I'm saying. They got custom,
they got a lady that flew over the dude keysha
make up from from all this and everything. You know.
So I had already plan said, Man, this would be dope.
Everybody see it. You know what I'm saying. Play I'll
(36:38):
be throwing a little player card whatever, just like you know,
put it. Man, listen, we get there, all kind of
stuff try to prevent me from doing it. Get there,
wait up the line. It's just all type of stuff.
So man, I get I'm thinking a couple of times. Man,
I got it right here in my pocket. I'm thinking, man,
just keep thinking. I said, man, I'm going to do this. Man,
(37:02):
I want to do it on them. So it takes
so long to get there. At this point, it seems
like it's just never gonna happen. So I get there,
we get on. When I finally get there, we get
on the steps and Kesha she look around that's are
going now and then, but they won't come out. I said,
(37:22):
what does this mean? You know what? I'm there like
because I don't want her to see me doing this.
I want to already have it out, you know what
I'm saying. So I get the pulling, I get the
pulling and it comes on out and so I get
on the knee and then Keepsa turned around look at
me and said, baby, you are right. She's like you okay,
(37:45):
She's like, I guess fail or something because she just
didn't expect it. So I think it was cool for
it to be a surprise on such a huge stage.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
But you had proposed before at the BT was twenty thirteen.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Right, No, we just went out then and people thought
it was like that. Like me and Keisha. We looked
good together and stuck and pictures and every time we
would step out and then she was somebody that I
was calling my wife before we even had right, you know,
before we.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Well, you know, you had to be there because you
make that presentation the course say Okay, that what you've
been saying.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, i'd been saying.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
You know how you oh yeah, that's why.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Yeah, you know how you just say that like this,
you just I mean, you know. And for a long
time I felt like she deserved the wedding. She deserved,
she deserved all that before the most part, I was
treating her like a wife. Correct.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Yeah, it's a you have a star study wedding. Kim
and Kanye Little Wang, Lisia, Keith Switz beat Gucca Maine.
Monica tended at the Vasaka wedding at the Vasacea Mansion
in Miami.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Is that what you had to Yeah, I'm trying to
think Monica came. Man, my mind, it was a blur.
You don't remember. You were just so focused on I
think that. I don't think Alicia can Her, Swiss came,
everybody else came, all those other names came. But it
was nice. Man. The thing about that wasn't It wasn't
It wasn't so much the celebrities that came out. It
(39:04):
was the people that I was able to show something
like my uncle who I was telling you about, who
had all the necklaces that's no longer here. He was there,
Keisha Grandmama was there. Like it was people that hadn't
been to Miami Beach, hadn't been to fasatur I got.
I got the mansion in the hotel next to it.
I rent the whole hotel for everybody else. Yeah. So
(39:26):
it's just the situation that we just close, you know
what I'm saying, And it's unlimited food and liquor. So
I like to show people a good time, like in
this space. I don't know about you, but I like
to show people like you know I loved, Like I
like to show him a good time. Yeah, I like
to show him a good time to bring the ass
back them a bad time. I show people a good time,
and it just be like I had a good time.
It might be a one off thing, like man, you know,
(39:47):
I had to put my mom on the jet. You know,
I'm jumping on. Just let me put my mom on
the jet. You know. It's just certain things I like
just want to offer the people that I loved.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Right the kids aspect, you mentioned that you were the
only child raised by a single parent, it almost seems
like you did the total opposite. W like you wanted
to be You felt you needed to be around for
your kids, that what you went through, your kids would
(40:15):
never experience what you went through.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Absolutely, I had to I had to sell drugs. I
actually started selling drugs at twelve, but they were just nicks.
But it was for my mom and her boyfriend, right,
and you know, it was almost like they gave me
a little something to keep, you know, like it was
forty fifty dollars. But I never have to even go
through that with with hey, lord, heaven a harmony, Like
(40:40):
I don't have to tell them that now. Granted, when
I'm tryna teach 'em a lesson, sometime I may have
a flashback and tell yo, I'm I love you, right,
like this is the reason, Like you know what I'm saying,
I didn't have this and this wasn't around. I had
to learn the hard way or whatever. But yeah, me
me growing up with one not in the household necessarily
(41:00):
not my father anyway, but it made me want to
like be around and also, like you know, I got
the money, so but I just got to try to
like offer certain experiences too, like they can remember like
certain trips or certain games. Whatever I do. I mean,
you know you'll never get it one hundred percent right,
but I'm trying.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
Damon Walliams told me the best thing his dad did
was come home. How do you balance? How do you
balance change? Because you not having having to do what
you did, but and it got you here to make
sure you're like, Okay, I want to give my kids enough,
but not give them too much, because you know, tough
times create tough men.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Tough men create easy times. Easy times create weak kids.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Weak kids create hard times. It's like, how does chain
who didn't have a lot, but you know your mother
loved you. How do you impart instill, impartake the wisdom,
partake the wisdom that you learn. To make sure your
(42:09):
kids appreciate what you're doing, but not take it for granted.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
That's a good one. I might have to ask all.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
That because you know what do we always say change.
I don't want my kids to go through none of
what I went through, but think about what it made you,
don't man?
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Listen? Man, I literally and this is an inside joke
with me and my wife. I literally got a song
that I play in my head to take cold showers,
and it's like a joke like if like we go
swear in the water, ain't just it shit, be like
it's the ambitious of a ride about Tupac. I play
(42:49):
that in my head when I get a shower or
just take a cold Man, I've been wired to do
something because like I ain't have no hart water, or
we had to turn the water off from six to
six and then take the same little tea thing and
turn it back on. Or even stealing lights, stuff that
they would never know about, like it just wouldn't even happen,
(43:10):
you know what I'm saying. But like even still or
borrowing lights, not if you're still them going to your
neighbor getting an extension cord from their house always to
your house and you see this big old cord going
through your big old orange two three orange cords connected
going to your house. Like, man, it's just unbelievable that
I you know, it's just good to be on the
other side of.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
That, absolutely, you know what I'm saying. You blew up
at thirty five. What do you tell people that feel
like it's too late for them because a lot of
times people don't feel like they make it about twenty
one twenty two, like, oh, it's over me. But here
you are having success later. I mean it's it's not
like you're fifty. But I'm saying a lot of people
have successful little early, especially in this game. But you
(43:50):
had success at thirty five. What do you tell people?
That says? Man, it's and just not in music, but
in anything, because a lot of times people don't feel
like they're successful early on, there's no chance for them
to be successful later.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
It may be too late for if that's if that's
what they believe, Okay, that's their thought. Probe that's what
they believe, right, Yeah, But if you company like me,
you might put out a number one record any time,
Like I'm trying to be up with up one hundred
million for us all, Oh I'm nowhere. They're content with
my space or nothing I'm doing. So it's about the person.
(44:25):
And I also feel that you know, you know, the
person knows, Like, let me ask you this, did you
know you was going to the NFL? Yeah. Every time
I ask somebody that they and it's crazy that it's like, man,
you didn't know it was, but did you.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
It's something about, yeah, I didn't have no plan. I
didn't have no plan. B. I didn't have no plan. C.
That was it everything. I had a tone vision. I
didn't see anything but see myself in the NFL and
getting my grandmother out of that thousand square puts in
the block home.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
I'm gonna be just. I'm telling you, man, So people
in positions like us, if it's like I would like
to tell somebody that that's like man like having that
little wonder, you will know. Yeah, you can't trick yourself.
You'll know yep. Now for me, I didn't know when,
(45:17):
but I just knew, bro, I could just change the
climb of the room. I knew my person now that
I knew, I wasn't no lame. I knew I'm from Atlanta.
I knew how to dress. I knew I was popping.
I knew I really hustled. I know I really hooped.
I know I really just was well, No, I just
it just was just I was just waiting on the
dots to connect. Right.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
Let me ask you there basketball, when you've growing up
obviously frame.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Who what are some of the players that you like that.
You like, man, I really like this game. I want you.
I'm kind of modeled my game after that. My game.
I'm a tall guard, well not even anymore, Like I'm
probably a short six five So right now, according to
(46:04):
the league, I might be a short guard right now,
But when I was playing, I was like labeled as
a tall guard, so I would like watching more you know,
tall guard stuff, whether it was somebody like a Penny.
Penny was my number one player. I got recruited by Memphis, okay,
so that was one of the places I thought I
(46:25):
was gonna play to like live out his you know
footsteps of that type of stuff like that. Penny was
like my number one player, man, I like I like
everything about about Penny.
Speaker 3 (46:37):
There have been some great rappers that that who So
I'm gonna let Okay, you got Cole Drake, pe Master P,
Damon Gillard, who is Gilly the Kid, Chris Brown, Quavo,
Little Dirt Game, Nelly.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
Can play too, David Skin Hoop French Montalant. Yeah, that's
a lot of people that can hoop. Man. I like
that because I kind of can tell your child, you
know what I'm saying about how you shoot. I can
kind of tell your childhood and I like I like
I like that. I like that people was outside playing ball.
(47:15):
You know what I'm saying. We was growing up or whatever.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
So yeah, man, I'm trying to figure out how you
are little baby lost to Kwavo A Jack Harlow.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
I know how we lost to them. No, I just
it just it just it wasn't a day. That wasn't
a day.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
Right, you're for adopted that game by yourself.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
I should have. I should have, but it maybe next time.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
Give me your top five basketball players of all time?
Chain's top five that don't have to be the best.
But who are your top five?
Speaker 1 (47:49):
Shortan Kobe, little Bron. I throw shocking now and if
I want to win all the games, I'm gonna have
to put step in now. Nice little list. That's a
(48:13):
nice little list. You got a few old. You didn't
go too far back. I can see I've been living alone.
I can do I could do the whole I could
do Errows, I can do the Jordan era, I could
do the Kobe era, and I can do the Lebron
are you know they always arguing but none you know
what I mean? So I could really do one from
each era. But if I just had to combine them,
number three would definitely be on the team. And then
I feel in the blanks, who's your goat? Who's your
(48:35):
basketball goat? Man? I just man, I just love that
Kobe guy. Man, because you got to tell you to
a Kobe I don't got no. Oh yes, I got
the number twenty four years. Yeah, how you be knowing
every damn thing? Yeah, dude, man, but I think everybody
went and got mam but this. Yeah, but when they
passed away, because it was just so out in the
(48:55):
blue and I had just saw New Year's that had
just saw bringing in New year and uh.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
I he shot him a DM, like Christmas Day, just.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
DM and going back and forth.
Speaker 3 (49:08):
I think Vanessa just had had had the fourth girl,
and I was like, bro, I know you're trying, but
you just can't get the little you can't get a.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
Good little mamba.
Speaker 3 (49:17):
And he said, Hey, these little mama seeters that I got,
I got mine. He was talking about the one that
passed away with him. He said, that's my that's my son.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
Yeah. Yeah. She was like that. Yeah. And so so
I met I met I met Jordan's once or twice.
He was really nice. He was cool. I met Kobe
many times. We had conversations about basketball, and then somewhat
seemed like he might have respected my i Q. And
(49:44):
then Lebron and I are good friend, Yeah, real great
friends because he Lebron. They are on your record, right yeah, man,
Me and him have hung out. My kids has been
to his house and all of that. Our wives has
hung out before and all that.
Speaker 3 (49:59):
So yeah, so help me understand this, because there's been
a lot of conversation Briannie getting drafted that make it
seem like Bronnie went top five.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
He's the fifty fifth pick in the draft.
Speaker 3 (50:10):
They only got they only got sixty spots, it did bet,
so you go to the first two round. You only
got first two rounds, right, So he went fifty five
the only five player that the fifty six, So only
five players.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Went after him.
Speaker 3 (50:21):
That make it seem like he top five. There's been
a lot of criticism about all man. He wouldn't even
been in the league if it wasn't for his daddy.
Y'll your fourth and so what's he supposed to do?
Speaker 1 (50:31):
I mean, if you're in a position to help your kids,
or isn't that what you should do change. You know that,
you know, that's how you know. I'm gonna show you
whatn't appetism looked like when mine get old, show you
you have you can't get there on you be come
in brother, Hey man, look out, I'll be back right
(50:54):
dropping him off. Now, I'll figure. But it's just like
that's he did nothing wrong. And then and actually you're
seeing a whole other side when Brownie been playing, uh
in the G League and just the culmination of just
what this season doing. He just he's a different player already.
And that's what happens. It's like when kids play up, right,
(51:15):
you know what I'm saying. When kids play up they
get better. They get better. Man, you ain't got no choice.
You get stronger, you do all type of stuff, and
you don't even know your body can do this type
of stuff. Man, that's interesting. That's how it works with
me changing.
Speaker 3 (51:27):
My brother's three years older, and then my next youngest,
my next youngest cousin's five years and it went six years,
and then it went seven years. So I'm playing against
guys three to five to six to seven years older
than me.
Speaker 1 (51:40):
I ain't got no choice but to get better. You
get tough and get to Oh yeah, yeah, they knock
your ass down in any care. You have to be
tough playing against them because they man. And this is
what I know now from my son playing ball. It's
a difference between seven, eight, nine and ten year old
Like body different, sure, how they move, coordination, you know,
(52:02):
footwork and everything.
Speaker 3 (52:04):
So yeah, you mentioned the cyber truck earlier. Uh and
people like dad, I don't want no cyber truck. Eli
musky the out of y'all, y'all you like, Man, I
love my cyber truck.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
Man, I just live. I leave here on Friday night. Man,
I get me an order fries. Yeah, I get in
my truck. I put it on autonomous and I just
let it take me home while I eat fries. And
(52:35):
I tell myself, this ain't drinking and drive right, I
ain't doing nothing. Man, eat some fries. Is eating fries
and that's it. In the car. It's gonna's gonna hit
this blinker. It's gonna stop, it's gonna do all that.
It's so small. It's like it's like me. It's like
(52:59):
whoever run Apple do something? And then now they like
you're gonna keep that Apple phone? Like get off my
line with that, Get off my line with that. You
know what I'm saying, this is k Yeah, I'm keeping it.
You crazy. Yeah Yeah, I'm keeping it and driving it
and so yeah. So you know, with that being said,
(53:19):
I ain't here to sell no product because I ain't
getting no money. I had to pay for mine. But
at the end of the day, it's it's one of
my convenient and we talked about convenience. It's convenient for me.
You got anything you want to promote, You got anything
you want to sell. We talked about red clay, We
talked about everything. Yeah, I got some stuff for you.
What you got, I got some stuff for you. Far
I go, let me do it, Let me give it,
(53:41):
Let me get you some product for you before you
get out of here. We have we have had it
all right, all right. First of all, this is some
hall of fame. Like I'll be seeing you now because
you don't like to cuss, you be like ish, Yeah,
this is this is some hall of fame. Ish right here. Okay,
there's some hall of fame. Ish looking good. They love
they they going crazy about the these the candy lamb
(54:05):
Letterman jacket, that's for you, that's for you, Shannon. Yeah,
that's that's the new Hall of Fame. Ish we be passing. Yeah, yeah,
look for this. Yeah, dollars float and gloat. They be
(54:25):
floating and gravity. That's nice. I appreciate that. Thank you, man.
Appreciate what you're supposed to drop later on you might
have to. And then this right here, oh man, this
right here, this real merch Candleland merchant, a couple of
T shirts, and I think we got a bottle of
Halo cologne. And Halo has sold one thousand bottles of
(54:45):
cologne already called Halo by Halo and you can go
to me and Halo dot com to purchase it. But
the man doing so good with the We were having
a few meanings about taking up another level really and yeah,
you just I'm telling you man, the man can say
I'm talking about he got that from his daddy. Huh wow,
that is true. This the cologne Halo by hend Try
(55:07):
to see what the smell like right now, because see
we're selling in the club too, were selling here Candland. Yeah,
the house mom and the dancers and all that got
some of this stuff around Christmas. Great killan Gary mcgif.
See he watching you think he's something Yeah, yeah, he know, okay,
yeah see that's a real see I know he thought
gonna na. I thought you're gonna have light some like
(55:27):
smell like a little kid stuff, right the grown ups
around here square now on the moji. Yeah yeah yeah
hit upside my head. Yeah yeah, I appreciate too.
Speaker 4 (55:40):
Chains all my life, grinding all my life, sacri fights, hustle,
back price, one slice, got the bro the dice squat
all my life. I'd been grinding all my life, all
my life, grinding all my life, sacri fights, hustle, had
the price in one slice, got the bowling gus to
(56:03):
swap all my life. I've been running all my life.
Speaker 1 (56:06):
M m hm
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