Club Shay Shay - Bow Wow Part 1 - The Volume

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Damn. I just knew you didn't know about this.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
I was went you posted it.

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Uh you good, I would have known.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
That's all the same way.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
I'm trying to keep it low key on, trying to all.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
My life, grinding all my life, sacrifice Hustle Petrick Price.
One slice got the bronic Geist. Swap all my life.
I'd be grinding all my life, all my life, grinding
all my life, sacrifice Hustle pet Price, one slice got
the bronic Geist. Swap all my life. I'd be grinding
all my life.

Speaker 4 (00:39):
Hello, Welcome to another episode of Club Shad Shape. I
am your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the propriud of
Club Shasha stopping by for conversation and the drink Today.
Is one of the originators of Aura, one of the
most influential people in hip hop, one of hip hop's
biggest name and most most recognizable voices. He's earned a
spot in the Guinness Book of World Record as the
youngest solo rapper to I have a number one hit

(01:01):
on the US R and B and Rap Chart. He
sold out Madison Square Garden three times before the age
of sixteen. He has a career spanning over twenty five years,
he sold ten million albums.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
He and he's only thirty eight years of age.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
A certified child prodigy, a former teenage sensation, an air
defining artist, A gifted performer and well rounded entertainer. He
has multi platinum selling songs and chart topping tours. A
Hollywood blockbuster actor and a global star. A TV personality
and a host, A one of a kind creative and
an outside personality, A business savage entrepreneur, A significant figure

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in the early two thousand, He's an influence on the culture,
and he's undeniable.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Here he is ladies and gentlemen?

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Bye, wow, what's I don't even throw both A lot
of that answer. I was caught up and that was dope.
You're like that I did all that FI, I did
all that was fire.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
So when you know what, I don't live it anything, bro,
but I got you gotta just you got it yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
I was always told like, if somebody's house has a drink,
you gotta have it.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
So if that broke twenty five years twenty five, ooh.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
It's that brown too.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, God damn bo.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
It's smooth though. Yeah, I wasna sip.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, We're gonna see up like a shot. You're like
a shot, all right, I thought them a shot. Thanks
for coming stop, Thanks for stopping by. I really appreciate.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
I know you're busy and you took time out of
your business schedule to give a few moments of your time,
so I greatly greatly appreciate that. Likewise, let's go back
to where it all started, Columbus, Ohio. What's your best
memories of growing up in Columbus, Ohio.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Best memories growing up in Columbus, Ohio Just being a kid,
you know what I mean, Just being a kid and
doing what young boys like to do. Playing football. Of course,
that went kind of fast once I got hit for
the first time. I'm telling my stepdad at the time, like, yo,
I'm going to defense. I think I'm gonna move to dB.
I think that I want to do the hit now.

(02:57):
I don't want to get hit no more. So, just
things like that. Wh just you know places that I
used to hang out, you know, United East Skating Rink
was it was like the the thing growing up. Me
and my boys used to go to the skating rink,
get dropped off all the time, and you know that's
where all the little girls would be at and we'll
think we doing something up there, but just it's just
a peaceful place for me when I think about Columbus
and growing up there, being raised there for the time

(03:19):
that I was there before I came to Atlanta. But
the Columbus is my heart's, my soul, is my everything.
I'll go back.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Do you get back, Yeah?

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yeah, yeah, like we just I just left. It was
just in Cleveland, which was crazy how every day is
a line because it was my birthday. Wow, So it's
kind of emotional returning home.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Sold out crowd.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Birthday, brought out some legends. I brought our bone thugs
and of course they're from Cleveland. Had a chance to
bring them out, and Jermaine came out, JD came out,
surprised me, did a little speech live on things. I
got kind of teary, outed and start you know, crying.
So the people about how they know how much you
know Ohio means and me, not just Columbus in particularly,
but just the whole time state period.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
But when you were growing up in columb of Ohio,
what did you want to.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
Be a football player an athlete?

Speaker 1 (04:07):
I wanted to go to Duke, So you want to
be a Hooper. I wanted to hop like I didn't
know that, like basketball players was as tall as they are.
Like now I've been around them South the movie and
all that, but growing up like I didn't have no
access to players. So on TV, everybody to me to
like normal height right right. And then I remember one
day somebod like YouTube short to play. I'm like what

(04:29):
you mean? And I finally like, I'm like, oh damn, yeah,
and this ain't gonna work. Everybody's six feet up, Like
it ain't gonna work. But that was my first thing
was to go to Duke. And then I said, if
that wasn't gonna work out, Jerry McGuire is like one
of my favorite movies. I said, if I can't play
the game, then I'd rather have some type of you know,
arm in it, which would be a sports agent. So
once I saw Jerry mcguire' say wow, it's a thing

(04:50):
that I could do. I could still be around sports,
but I don't necessarily have to get hit. I don't
have to worry about breaking the limb or nothing like that.
But I could still be IMG to it. Then that
would be.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
It, right.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
So what was him The dynamic of your family so
you have siblings. You mentioned your stepdad your mom, So
was your real dad? Did you know who he was?
Was he around?

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah? Pop's definitely not my pops. And my father we
had kind of like a I won't even say a
word relationship. My father you know, endused in an alcohol
you know what I mean, was an alcohol like I said,
I'm proud to say it was too because he changed
his life.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Wow, that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Over like completely a whole different person. Where now we're
able to catch up, you know, go have lunch, he's
able to reach out to me now. So I alwaysknew.
I always wanted the best for my father, and I
think growing up without him, you always want that that
father figure, that that person to be there. I mean,
I've had him, but it's nothing like your own blood,
and I wanted I wanted that ony. But yeah, growing up,

(05:45):
really it was just me and moms. You know, my moms.
They get married at one point that was cool, and
you know, but even before that, it's always been me
and mom's and now it's me and mom so and
wills fall off.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
Right, you know what, Let's let's talk about this. And
I always want to move past this you're from Columbus, Ohio.
There's another famous person from Columbus, Ohio who's an All
Pro football player, played with the Pittsburgh Steelers, with to
the Jets. I think he finished his career with Kansas City.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yep. And I don't know.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
I don't really know how it started by well, maybe
you can add some some context of this. I think
you said, like, Okay, I'm the most famous person, or
I'm the I said I'm the biggest, You're the biggest
from Columbus, Okay.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Veggas, Okay, I feel I mean, I'm supposed to feel
like that anybody with some type of success, especially coming
from a small city like that. I mean, we got
a lot of legends. James Bussell, Douglas's got Rest of Soul,
and some Columbus myself. It's a list of others, even Lotto.
A lot of people don't know a lot of Atlanta,
but a lot of from Columbus, Like that's what she
was born.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Said that.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
But yeah, man, I mean it's just.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Did you expect to get any kind of backlash?

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yeah? I knew it.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Oh, you knew he was gonna say something. Somebody.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
I didn't know that Levy Island was gonna say something.
But I knew somebody was going to say something just
because of the energy. Look, it all stemmed from the
National Championship game.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Okayy buck Eys is in Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
It's rare that I get Columbus in Atlanta together and
is in Atlanta. We go to the Dome. I go
to the suite, my boys, all my boys from Columbus.
We all got to well, they got the box and
so I'm looking. They're like, you gotta have a drink.
I'm like, y'ain't got none over that I drink and
we got tequila. I'm like, brod, don't drink Patron. That's Patron.

(07:18):
Happened to take a couple of shots. We won, and
I got on live and it just I.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Just thought you thought I won? Yeah, I thought.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
And I was trying to make it to people don't notice.
I was trying to get to the field. My security
said about you just kept trying to get to the field.
And I did get to the field and they was celibrating.
I'm like, they're not let me out there. They're like,
bad man, we will, but we can't. I'm like, you
gotta let me out there, Like I'm the biggest thing
from the and riding off of emotions. I went on
my live and I said what I said, but I
didn't know that he was gonna come back. And I

(07:44):
will say this, I reached out to him so I
saw the video. I'm not like most cash it. I'm
not like the back and forth on it and.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Try to keep it going. You try to saddle, I'm
gonna call you.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
So I didn't want to DM, like, YO, call me.
I don't do the internet yelling over the thing. Spoke
like men passed it up. I told him where I
was coming from with it. He apologized, like, man, you know,
I jumped out there not knowing blah blah blah like that,
and people spoke for me. I had the sacond one,
but I got love for living on That's a.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Good Okay, I appreciate it. Did you know he was
from Columbus? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Knew?

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Okay, Yeah, nice little thing. So let me ask you this.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
So before you because okay, you're in Columbus, Ohio, you
say I want to go to Duke, but you really
come to the realization.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
It ain't gonna happen. Yeah, and so now you hipped
your focus.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
Now you realized or come to the realization basketball ain't
happening now, what is the focus?

Speaker 1 (08:39):
The focus was just being a kid and letting it
just happen. So I remember at the time, I want
to say, uh, I was on the football field okay,
and my mother walked up to the fence. She was like,
cam here, and I was like, all right, what's up?
Said We're going to Atlanta tomorrow, Like for what? And
she's like, I know, you said. You just want to

(09:01):
live a normal life. You want to be a kid.
You don't want to do the things. After the whole
death Throaw thing fell out, I was over the music business.
I was like, I'm done with it. So but this
is God by the name of Jamine Duprex. I want
you to mean, I'm like who he found criss Cross
and growing up I was so envious a criss Cross. Yeah,
because when Snoop had me, I feel like that was
my time, even though it wasn't. And I was like,
I don't want to meet him. I don't want to
go nowhere. I'm in full passing gear. I'm like, I
don't want to go. I want to be right here

(09:22):
about house. I want to be a kid. I don't
want to do that. Man, My MoMA like, I don't
want here none. You got to say you were going,
sure enough. I never looked back. Yep. So what.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
After? You're playing sports and being a kid. So obviously
your mom realized that you have a talent. So you're
doing talent shows?

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (09:43):
So are you in a group?

Speaker 1 (09:45):
No group?

Speaker 2 (09:45):
No group? Is you solo? Sol rapping? Doing RB? So? What? What? What?
What is your what is your spiel? What are you doing?

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Believe it or not? It was comedy. My mom brought
me that red, white and yellow blue Fisher Price microphone.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Yeah, it can take.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
I used to always mimic people, used to always mimic stuff.
So it went from that to my mom playing rap music. Okay,
we got a young mom. So from that then it
went to okay, he wanted to be an entertainer. There's
something in him. We just don't know what it is.
Is it the comedian stuff, is it the music? But
the way I would hold a calm or remote control

(10:21):
resembling a microphone in my movements, I just knew how
to imitate what I saw. And then you know that
one special night when Snoop and Dre and them came
to Columbus, I had night that was my chance, and
and that was my night to really flex what I've
been not really working on, but that I just possessed
like it just it was just second nature to entertain
and just have fun with it. And then I think

(10:43):
when mom saw that and saw me up on that
stage from all them people, and then Snoop and Dre
wanted to meet me, that's when they clicked for Mama, like, Okay,
this boy about to be a rap. I don't want
you focus on nothing else. Rap rap rap, You get
out there, they gonna take care of school and all that.
This is who you are and never looked back.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
But you had it originally before you became bow while
you was kid gangster howe how did you get Did
you give yourself that dame? If somebody gave you?

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Somebody gave me that name? Because I love gangster rap,
you know what I mean? My mom, Like I said.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Even with that heavy curse, that your mom would let.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Me man, let me hear all that, let me hear
all that, Like that was me. That's me on doggiesthing
on Snoop kids, cursing and all that. So it just
fit me and then I remember getting with Snoop and
he was like, what's your name is? Like kid gangster.
He was like this, that ain't gonna work. Then he
looking like but he little meat though, right, he little
Snoop And then he said a little Snoop, I'm the

(11:37):
big dog. I'm the big bow while you you love bye.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Right, So Snoop gave you that name, gave me the name,
and it's stuck.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Stuck. You liked it, though it was weird at first
because I was so I used to kick gangst and
I'm like, like, little Bow, I'm like, it didn't really ring.
And I remember him telling me I want you to
repeat it, like I want you to get comfortable saying
that name. That's who you are, that's your name. Your
name is little Bow Wow. And I was like, that's dope.
And basically, it's like, no matter where you go in life,

(12:05):
no matter who you signed with, no matter what you do,
you're gonna always have a piece of Snoop with you
because you are the little meat. And I gave you
that name, so you know that name mean everything to me.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
So in other words, you were the first little There
are a lot of little There are a lot of
l I Al's, but you were the first.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
I was one of the first. Kim was out before
Lou Kim. Kim was out before. Okay, am I one
of the biggest little.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
So in the talent When you did talent shows in Columbus,
you were rapping. Correct, you win them, you win all
your show killing them, you killing them.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Jack the Rapper, that's one of like the biggest hip
hop Yeah, yep, yep.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
So you gave me Jackie Rapper did.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Jack the Rapper did all that at everything like open
up for tupacet yo yo back in the day. Yeah, man,
I want to find that picture so bad. That picture
is so tough. Yeah, open up for people. I mean
I was doing everything. I mean you name it, man,
I was I remember doing that.

Speaker 4 (12:57):
You were a traveling Oh yeah, it was up. It
wasn't just no okay in Columbus. And then I go
to Cleveland, and I go to can and I go
to theast Ohio. You was going to state to state and.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
I really have to move much because Columbus, you know,
that's the capital. And then for me being at Columbus
isn't like a big city like in Atlanta or New York.
If you're ringing bells in anything sports music, like you
can seriously own the town, like they will get behind
you at rally to let you know, like you here.
So it's almost like I really have to go nowhere.

(13:28):
Like a lot of the competitions that we were doing
in Columbus, I was winning them, performing at East High School.
I did it like I've done it, and everybody in
Columbus that they know like this boy. It didn't happen overnight.
Remember about coming to here, sneaking in here? You know
his mom and them would I mean, I did it all.
I did it all.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
How did you learn that stage present? Were you ever nervous?
Because it strikes me like you're just the natural performer
and nerves was never an issue with you?

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Or did you have to do develop bat?

Speaker 1 (14:02):
I love that stage. I love the stage.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
It's because your mom probably had you performing in front
of family and friends of the very young gay so
they come over, hey baby, do that head.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
My mom would be like, don't hold stop covering the
damn mic. You can't cover the mic. You muffle all
your rappers want to cover the mic. You gotta hold
the mic right there underneath. I'm like man, it's just
it's what I'm hosting, right, But when I'm rapping, I gotta,
I gotta get in my bag. L L y l
L did it for me watching him perform. So many

(14:36):
similarities that I see when I look at L pertaining
to myself, heavy female records, the women fan base. But
when you watch him perform, to me, that's my idol,
that's my goal to that's my goal. That's the film
that I watch. You know, we watch film when we study.
I watch old l Cooja performances and you will see

(14:56):
the moves that I've stole from this man. I'm happy
to say that he knows this. Oh gee, that's my
he knows he's my goat. And when I watched him,
I was just like, Yo, this dude rocks like he
rocks up crowd. That's what I want to do. I gotta.
It's cool to have it hit. It's cool to sound
good on the record, it's cool to but when people
come see you live and console that pay they money

(15:18):
and the music matches, but what they see live live
is different. Right, you got you got it? So for me,
I took I take the stage very shit, and I
come from that cloth. I come from that era where
performing is everything right, rocking the crowd, rocking the house.
So LLL is the only person that I watch for that,
and you'll see it like little subtle things. The leg
thing I do is all when I'm been down, when

(15:40):
I'm rapping friends, I'm is, I feel like I'm performing bad.
I'm bad every night when I do fresh, I really
feel like I'm doing bad. So he means so much
to me, just performance wives and everything that he's done.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
Did you ever get nervous and forget a lyric or
forget a step or something while you was on stage?

Speaker 1 (15:55):
I get it one time. One time I was in Chicago.
That's when I first came out. Jermaine was on stage. First.
He brought me out to do bounds with me. I
come out, there are kids you not. I wrapped the
second verse on the first verse, and the completely threw
off everything. I'm hearing my ad libs saying different things,

(16:17):
and I promise you, I remember, like it was yester day,
the face that Jermaine had, Oh it was that. It
was like that's what it was. And I'm looking at
him like he can see it in my eyes. But
I'm just gonna keep rapping, like he's saying, I'm gonna
just keep it going.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Right, But I knew the crowd. Did the crowd, Oh.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
They more definitely knew. Okay, but the thing is keep going.
But I've had my misshaps and then fell through holes
on stage.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yeah, Like we noticed that. I have these things on
stage sometimes where I get lunched out of yes. Yes,
And you gotta be careful because if somebody else is
coming up, if I have a surprise gest, it'll be down.
So you know, this was it this tour. This was
our first run of the Millennium, well my second, my

(17:05):
first run with the Millennium. And I had soldier boy
in the whole and I forgot that the night before
we did MSG. I didn't have them because we couldn't
bring our stage. So it's down soldiers in it waiting
and I kid you not, and I was a little hungover.
It was my birthday. The night before I literally went missing.
Sam fell on top of soldier he in the hole,

(17:25):
like what the hell is going on? I done fell
on him and I said, bro oh my god. And
then he looks at me, he gonna, man, you ain't
you do what I think you dad, Bro, I said, Bro,
I fell through the hole all these people. I said,
we're gonna stand up straight and we're gonna come up together.
And when we came up together, we came up laughing
and it was a it was a moment. But my

(17:47):
manager was like, yo, so I got so, I got
the stage. He said, men, you got to post it
before anybody else posted. So but yes, things happened. Things happened.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
So as a kid, were your mom allowed you to
go to concerts as a kid and see some of
this gangster rap and see some of these rappers.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Do you remember the first concert you went to?

Speaker 1 (18:01):
First concert I went to was the Chronic tour Snoop,
Dre Boss and Onyx right years old. Yep, I was there.
I was there and from that point on you was
hooked gone.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
So they brought so did you know they were gonna
bring you out?

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Not at all?

Speaker 2 (18:19):
So A. J.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Johnson got restless? So who plays e Zale on Friday? Ye?
He was the MC was the host of the tour
and during the intermission he said, you know, anybody want
to come up here and think they got with the tape?
And he picked me out the crowd. Like, bring a
little man up. I'm talking about front of like sixteen thousand.
I just started rapping, rapping, you know, a little wrap

(18:42):
somebody might have wrote for me. Crowd going crazy. They
throwing money on the stage. You know me. I stopped rapping.
I'm grabbing the money. I'm like, man, this right here,
I'm like, forget this. And I'm like, Dan, you know
what I mean. And then crowd was going crazy and
dads actually Daz was like he was the one who
saw me, and he said, man, I'm about to take
you to the back and let you meet Snoop Dogg

(19:02):
and Doctor Droy. I'm about to bring you back here.
Little Homy Cold brought me back there, met him, and
that's when I met Dre and Snoop for the first time.
I got this epic photo at six years old in
the middle of Dre and Snoop. And then that's when
they was like, you know what, We're gonna do this
every night. We're gonna bring him on the road, put
him in the crowd, and we're gonna yell like, who
want to come on? We're gonna pickh me every night

(19:23):
and we're gonna let a little man get off.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Oh, So that's how that worked.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
Okay, So now I'll be knowing because they'd be like, oh,
and they be bringing this person up and that person
already be playing it.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Might might have already been playing me. But that's that's
where they stood with like, yoow, we're gonna bring a
little man with us. And I never look back.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
So when they told you, so, okay, we're gonna do this.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
So when you go out there and they say, oh,
Dad takes you back, you meet Snoop, you meet Dre,
and they say they're gonna bring you out.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Do you remember the song that you performed out there with?

Speaker 1 (19:47):
I definitely don't. I definitely don't. And it was tours,
like the end of stretch of the tour. So what
I do remember was as soon as the tour was over,
they went in production for Snoop album from Okay Style.
I was around when he made Dogs. I was in
studio sessions while Wow, they were making it and creating
it like I'm watching unk in the booth, like I'm
sitting out here just watching them work on this album, right,

(20:09):
And that's how I got on the album, you know
what I mean? From being there, And then I did
a couple of records at leaked Day on the day
on YouTube day out. It's bad. It's bad. The language
that I was using, it is crazy. They had me
on something.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
Yeah, if CPS would have found out back they came
and got you.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
I mean it was crazy what it was on. They
were really molding me to be a little Snoop, like
for real, I had corrupt writing my rhyms, and you know,
at that time, it was just stuff that you know,
a seven six year old should't really be rapping about,
and Snoop knew that, and then you know, that's how
the whole thing kind of played out.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
Did you feel like everything because it happened so quick,
You're six years old, you're on stage, you had a concert,
you see them, you go back, you start doing this.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Did you feel like everything was coming easy?

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Not that it was coming easy, I feel like it
wasn't coming fast enough.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
Actually, you know, because once I got to LA, a
lot of artists, well I don't know about now, but
I know back then a lot of artists had to
sit on the label. We call that basically when they
sign you, but you're gonna wait your time. Artists development
were gonna get you right, and and all this type
of stuff. So I just felt like I was ready.
You felt you was already right. It wasn't no sense
to wait, man, I was ready. I won't it, you

(21:15):
know what I mean. But obviously it wasn't my time.
Chris Crosses on fire, ABC was out. I probably would
have drowned like they had the market sold up, you
know what I mean. So it was perfect timing for
Snoop to be like, you know what, I know the
person I'm gonna put him with. I know exactly where
he needed to go, because this death row thing is
just not it for him, Like it's not safe, and

(21:36):
I don't want him growing up being influenced by the
gang culture. Now he banging and he doing this doing.
I know exactly what to do with he. I'm gonna
place him right with Jamae Duprix, and I know he
gonna take it exactly where I know he need to go. Yep.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
But before that happened, you signed the death row and
you moved to Cali, and your mom didn't go with you.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Moms ain't. Moms end up coming out there later, but
off the rip, I was staying with a Nancy Fletcher
that's that's one of Snoop's background singers at the time.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
How old you you remember how you were probably.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Like six one on seven and you go ahead.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah, that's a lot of trust.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
A lot of trust. But trusted Nancy with everything. She
was such a sweet person, sweetheart, took care of me,
took me in and lived with her, and I really
wasn't around the guy as much like it was a
home environment even in La that my mom ended up
coming out there later and we ended up getting an
apartment I believe Sherman Oak somewhere it was. And then
from there, uh, my mom went back and then I

(22:36):
went back after her, back to Columbus, and that's when
I wanted to play football and just be a kid.
Then we got that call.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Wow, I mean, things are happened so fast.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
So okay, now you rapping on the Dog Style album,
You're like, but Snoop, Snoop, not only he did you
a favor twice. He brought you out there because he
saw the talent in you, but he also saw that
you know what what I'm rapping about and what this
culture is about. He doesn't need to be a part
of this, and he moves you alone well, because did

(23:06):
you know that's what he was doing it for, or
you thought like maybe I'm not good enough and they
don't believe in me.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
It never was a moment where I felt like I
wasn't good enough. I understood because it was so no
he never did. But it was so self experiential. It
didn't have it didn't it didn't have to the writ
ones on the wall. I seen it just being around,
witnessing the things that was going on and seeing what
seeing what Snoop was going through, I knew he didn't
have time to focus on the artist. He had to

(23:32):
focus solely on himself, and he felt like that was
so selfish. It would be selfish of him to worry
about him. But still having me there, I'm getting older.
I'm getting older, and it's like, man, this dude, I
know this kid can go. I just got to put
him with somebody. I don't want to be the reason
he doesn't make it. He has to make it, and
we have moved him out here. The next thing for

(23:53):
him is boom JD. And it was almost like almost
like like dropping up your kid and come to get him.
It was like here you go, JD. But look nephew,
I'm gonna swerve it around the block. A little later on,
we're gonna meet all right. Once I got hot, it
was up and first album, second single, snow Man Dog
number one, So it's like he was right, I'm gonna

(24:15):
place you there and we're gonna I'm gonna come back
around and can get you. Yeah, I'm gonna come get you.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
And he got me when he was onna dog father
Jenny Juice. Did you know what Jenny Juice was?

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Nope. I just remember seeing this green bottle all the
time at Larryby Studios. Yeah, with the little red circle
on him. I'm like, man, why y'all be having that around?
And there was always some orange juice around. I'm like,
what is that? Like, let's tang around. That was the
thing back then. You don't hear, like, you don't hear
nobody talking about that, talk about bring me twenty bottles
of gin, Like you don't hear that, Like that's not

(24:44):
the thing. But yeah, I had no clue. I just
knew this is green bottle with this red sticker on it,
and it's always in the studio or it's around, and
it's always next to some damn orange juice. I don't
get it.

Speaker 4 (24:55):
But around that time Tupac was around. Yeah, and I
that you tried to sneak in the studio.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Absolutely absolutely, just one thing about me, I always remained
like being a kid, no matter how big I got,
no matter what I was doing, being a child and
everything to me, you know, And yeah, that's true. Pot
was working and I'm like, I got to see this.
I want to see it, and I want to see it. Right.

(25:21):
I don't even know he even remembers me because I
opened up for him years back, but I don't even
think you know, it's the same kid, you know what
I mean. So definitely try to sneak in most definitely
I wanted to see that up post. But I'm glad
I got the chance to watch Snoop though, because to
be there to witness watching him create one of the
greatest hip hop albums of all time and say he
was in the same room and watched it how I

(25:43):
was and back then, how the tracks were. You know,
they used to have to get the razors and cut
the cut the tape. Like it was amazing.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Watching how it all came together.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Yep, I was there for it, Like I hear the
I played dog Eastude. Now it's like it's weird for
me because every song I just remember where I was, like,
I love, I'm glad that I was able to have
that moment.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Was sugar around that during that time.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Most definitely shit was around one hundred percent, most definitely.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
So you left, so Snoop drops you off at Jermain Duprix.
What was your first interaction? What was your first conversation
with JD?

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Like why are you late? While you late? That was
it and he couldn't believe it because you got to
think I despised, like I didn't really rock with JD
at first because of the Cris Cross stuff. So I'm like, man,
now I'm about to go work with the person who
put the put them in motion. And I don't know, man,

(26:35):
what if he trying to savage? I don't know, man,
I don't know. I want to be with my man.
I want a dog man. I won't be with Snoop.
And I remember he picked me up in Buckhead, me
and my mom from the Higher Hotel and all JD
curt me if I'm wrong. I don't know if it
was the black one or the white one. He had two billies.
Big boy Billy, and he picked me up on one.
Never seen a billion in my life. So I'm walking

(26:56):
to the hotel. I'm like, man, you late, man, you had
me and my mama send a dotel all day. He like, damn,
that's crazy. Like this kid is a start, Like this's
the first thing he's telling me. I'm like, yeah, man,
because he look like a kid in me too. Jamaica
was fun and short. I'm taller to him now, but
like I just close. It was closed hype back then,
and I'm just like that was it. I was like,
you late. And then the first question I asked him,

(27:19):
I said, Yo, why this car ain't got no logo
on it? It's just a bell here? Like what did
I never seen it coming from Columba. I've never seen
no car with just a be on it. There's a Bentley.
I'm like, I never I don't know what that is.
But all I know, Shannon, he had the thick rabbit
fir you know what I'm somebody was killing him Billy
comming in. I mean, I was like, nah, this this

(27:40):
is different, this is this this okay, it's something Yeah, yeah,
we ain't got these And and then from there he
knew exactly what to do is I went to the
crib when his house flexed on eleven cars in the driveway.
Never seen nothing like. We had two Bentley's Porsches Rovers
the seven forty five and they was out back then.
I'm mean Ferrari's I'm man JD was wild And when

(28:04):
I saw that I'm with for I was like, Mama,
I'm kind of glad. I ain't see this.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
This is different.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Listen, I'm like, man JD. He he I will say
this the first man and that I seen. I'm on
two wives that I seen myself, and I said, dang,
I want him to be like he's what I look
up to him as as a father figure, Juman fill

(28:36):
that void that my father left. You know what I'm saying.
Like when I saw him, I'm new man. I want
to I want to make I want to make him happy.
I want to I want to make him the most
money so we can keep buying cars. I want he
he showed me the blueprint. I want everything he got
plus more. And you know that's like being a kid
on the block and you see the dude come around
and the s far figure, You're like, damn, that's gonna
be me one. I just gotta know how to get

(28:58):
to it. And when I saw that, I'm like.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
All right, this is how old were you at that time?

Speaker 1 (29:03):
I'm probably like eleven now, okay, probably eleven. JD had
me like eleven, right, So when I saw it saying,
I was like, when we get in that studio, that's
what I wanted. And he made me sit for a minute.
We did a song on the Wildlid West soundtrack for
Will Smith. It ain't do nothing, and the song can't
do nothing, but it made it to the soundtrack, right,
It ain't do nothing. It wasn't. He was just making

(29:24):
sure I was ready. But I was so happy to
do that record. And I remember playing that song all
the time, like all right, we got some chemistry. We're
gonna make some magic here. This is up. This is
me and you for life. For sure.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
You understood. You said that he had Chris Crawls, the
Brad Usher, so you knew he had made big stars,
and you're like, well, hell, he did it for them,
you can do it for me. Yeah, was that your
thought process?

Speaker 1 (29:52):
You think that? And there's sometimes where it could be
a top producer and it don't happen for you like that,
Like I've seen cats coming and so so death and
it might not work out for and I see him
leave so so Death and they blossom. So every situation
ain't is different. It's totally different, you know what I mean.
But Jermaine just he he I told him, I said, listen,

(30:14):
if I'm not the biggest artist you have had in
your label, then I feel like I want to be
the biggest artist you ever had sand next to you.
That's what I want to be.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
Why do you think you and JD had the chemistry
that you guys, that you guys possessed, You had it,
you felt it right off the bat.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Why do you think there was such great chemistry between
you two?

Speaker 1 (30:31):
I think because Jermaine is the only child and I
am too. Oh okay, and also being at Jermaine was
that too, And I just think that he might have
always wanted a little brother and I always wanted a
big brother or father and I never had it. He

(30:52):
never had it. Twe met each other, so at first
it started out like that's big bro. That's big bro.
That's a little bro. Then it's like, nah, that's really
like your son, bro, Like that man me look up
to you y'all talking like you'll walk out everything. And
it was true, and I think that's what made it
so perfect. I was looking for something and he was
probably looking for something and then boom, like to this

(31:12):
day like I ain't got that, No son I got
he is my son, bow is my son. That's my
sont like Hell said, say it probably too.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
Working with Usher, did you feel like he was gonna
be able to do that because you said a lot
of times you see guys that be with these heils,
these great producers, and they don't find success over there.
They go somewhere that the producer that's not a known right,
but he had Usher, and Usher was just fire exploded.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
I was there for that. I was there. Look, man,
I had the Confession's album for anybody had it on
a burnt disc like coming like from the studio though
Jermaine us to ride around to it before it even
came out. We was I knew, I knew what that
was gonna be. And just yeah, and not only not
just my projects that Jermaine has worked on, but being

(31:57):
there for the Confession's album and watching him and Brian
Michael Cox how they did it and you know, it
only inspired me more. And I remember Jermaine like, he
sent me to an Usher concert one time. I need
you to go get inspired. I think you just getting
a little bit too relaxed. So he sent me off
to Usher's concert and I believe it's a confessional tour

(32:18):
went and I was just mom blowing. I was like, man,
I gotta I gotta fit of the game. I gotta
get it, I gotta turn it back up. So Jermaine
is just a wizard of He just knows right. He
just knows how to put you in certain situations. He
knows that each artist is different, but he knows how
to tap into each one of his artists. But I
definitely told him if I signed with you, if I'm
gonna roll with you, I want to be the biggest

(32:38):
artist you ever had.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
He did that?

Speaker 4 (32:42):
Did that when you started to blow up bounce with me?
You had that's my name, puppy love Ghetto girls. How
did that change your life? Now you're in a different
stratosphere now, did you act differently or were you to
steal the same about I was.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Bad as hell. I was bad as hell. I was
bad as hell. I would go listen it Okay, so
around the time this triple platinum bottle, this first album. Man,
I'm pulling up to the salso, death of Officers going
out hitting the power start just boom boom boom, lights
go off in the office. Everybody computers means going on.
They're like, what, damn, Jermaine banned me from the studio.

(33:14):
Jermaine banned me from the office.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Damn, you cooked up like that.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
I was a bad kid, Like I knew, that's what
and that's why I believe when people ask me, like,
how do you think you still have your head on
your shoulders, I'm like, because I have my I have
my childhood, right. You know, nobody took that away from me.
I played, like I said, I played football, but even
when I was famous, I remained a kid. I was
pulling pranks on people, like I said, turn off the
power at the office. I just had no care and

(33:38):
not only being a superstar, a young superstar, but I'm
still a kid. So I got that. Ha ha. Well,
then you can say right now, because I'm paying your
beers yo, be yo, bes, I'm keeping the lights on
so I can turn these lights off whenever I feel
like so. And I'm a kid, so it's only so
much gonna do. But call my mama. That's all you
can do. Or tell Jermaine and Jamaica be like stop.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
And I ain't stopping. So yeah, I've.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Remained a kid, bro. And if Jamaine was said, he'll
tell you that's one thing that boy did. We could
be anywhere. He just always at that time, he was.

Speaker 4 (34:12):
A kid and he remained at What was your favorite
what's your favorite memory from that time?

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Favorite memory from that time? It'll be side my Massaquare garden. Wow, yeah,
MSG for sure, the garden. And it's so many moments,
Like I'm just sitting there thinking, it's so many Me
and Madonna, so many, so many memories, but that one

(34:42):
right there was different from me right because I'm like
all the history that happens, and it has been thirteen a
little boyfriend, Ohio, really sixteen thousand kids in here, this
is crazy. And then to do it again, and then
they come back and do it again, and then to
be thirty eight and we still doing it. It's a
blessings I know of him.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
I never imagined, did you think I mean, because I mean,
I don't know. I'm trying to think if they're a
child star. That's as big as you were at that now,
as big as you were back then, because you had to.
I mean yeah, teenage girls follow you. The small girls
follow you, fainting just like wanted to take a picture,
wanted to get a glimpse of you, wanted to see
just wanted to see bow wow.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
I mean, one person, come to mind. The closest thing
the little bout will probably be Beaber. Okay, I'll give it,
I give it a JB. That's my man. That only
because he started young. I was thirteen though, so I
was the youngest. I'm not sure. I think Beber might
might be thirteen, fourteen whatever. But the closest that I'm saying,
because Chris started at fifteen sixteen, right, he was already

(35:45):
right getting to it where you know me and Bee
was probably like thirteen.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
Years right, because when Michael blew up, he was in
the group. He wasn't solo like you and be like
you like you were like Beabs were. He was with
the Jackson five and then once he went on his own.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Good night, cut out, good night.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
So what was the craziest fan interaction?

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Now, this this is good. I'm in Chicago, I had
three sold our shows in one day. Right, That's how
I used to do them, theater shows. Right, We'll do
like the one o'clock, then the Mad Name, and then
we'll do the seven pm one. Right, three sod O
sholds one day. It's crazy. So during I want to say,
after the second show, yep. After the second show, I

(36:29):
go out to my tour bus and it's a loading
dock and you just look up and you see all
the fans waving their posters and screaming, and I just
see legs, feet and bottom of tennis shoes in there.
Girl jumped off the loading dock, off the bridge like
the tunnel and lands on the top of my tour bus.
And she was I've never seen nothing like that. And

(36:50):
I was like, what that.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
She wasn't hurt, Nope.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
And I'm not getting down to you sign this, please,
you gotta sign this. We had to call the fire
department at it, come out, put the ladder up to
the bus, get her down safely. I signed it for
and in Rest's history. The funny thing is, I've met
her and I know she's watching this. I've met her
again since and she always reminds me, you know, what

(37:13):
I'm like, I jumped off your bus. I'd be like,
oh my gosh, and she's grown now, and every time
I see it, it's funny. Just she always bringing it
up all the time. But yeah, that was wild.

Speaker 4 (37:26):
But during that time also there was another little came out,
Little Romeo. Was that a healthy competition between you two guys?

Speaker 1 (37:33):
I really didn't feel no competition, honestly, because I never
really looked at him or nobody. Yeah, and it's not
even from like an arrogant or thing. It's more of
I was just focused on doing me. I didn't really
have time to you know what I mean, I feel big.
I mean three million records, I'm toring arenas like It's
really no, I'm not trying to compete nobody. I'm just

(37:55):
doing my thing and I'm winning. I think during that
time with him and me, when he came out, it
was a lot of it was easy to compare.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
Right because you're both young, you look wild.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
Wow, he got the I got the Mickey Mouse, he
got the Bugs Bunny. We both have two iconic hip
hop gurus behind this. I got JD. He got p.
It was just so easy to pin us together and
me and Rome never wanted the fans to pick and
choose and do all that for both of them. It's
enough space to eat. And we always had a cool relationship,
you know what I mean. And I remember as we

(38:27):
got older, he told me, like, Bro, you know I
did all that. Bro, I did that cause I looked
up to you, Bro, like you know what I mean,
Like I was no different than every other little boy
with braids. Bro, it was you. Why you think I'm
Harlem shaking in my videos? I know that's yours. Why
do you think I'm doing the seawalk movi. I know that,
but I looked up to you, brow, and I never
told you that. And I want to say, any game

(38:47):
my roleses when me and Solio Boy did verses, he
came on the stage and gave another speech like balu
the Jordans, I'm the Kobe and you know soldiers Lebron
how reput it. But yeah, I never in life had
a problem Romeo, never in life. I think it was
more of and if he was here said the same thing.
It was more of the people trying to stir up
something to give the media and everybody something to talk about.

(39:08):
But we ain't let it happen on Have you ever
been starstruck? Hell yeah, on two occasions. Okay, one of them,
I was bout like I'm like me, I'm here now,
Barack Obama got me really man to the day, I
still feel like it was fake. I feel like it
was a cutout, Like was it really him? Bro? I

(39:30):
went to the White House Like, that's a big flex
for me because I remember. I remember like they we
used to have to save up our money and ask
our mamas for field trip to take the bus up
to DC. Yeah, just so you can go thirteen hour
trip or eight hour drive on the yellow bus. They
gonna stand outside the gate, yeah, yeah, to see the way,
to see, not going inside, not going inside it no,

(39:52):
I mean nothing. I'm like, man, this the boy, this
is the flags. But I'm gotta I'm in here right
like I'm looking. I'm man, what I'm walking around under there?
And immediately they called our group, damn, time to go
downstairs take pictures. I'm like, all right, I ain't know
what to expect. I'm like, man, I'm damn, it's crazy, man,
you see it on my face. I'm like, man, this

(40:12):
is wild, Like I never thought man. I walked hit
that corner. Miss Michelle was right there, Obama right there.
First thing he said, road bounce in Chicago. It's like
road bounce.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
You already know. Let go.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
I'm like this, all that's dope. You saw that's hard.
I appreciate that. That's hard. And then we took the photo. Bro,
if I if we post a picture of myself, but
I had the biggest smile. That's probably the biggest smile
you'll ever see on my face because I just couldn't
believe it. And I sent the picture right to my mom,
and you know that that was a moment right there,
that that definitely was a moment. And then the first

(40:48):
time I met MJ I call him mister Jordan, but Michael,
but mister Jordan. I called mister Jordan and Lucky levitating
that there.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
He don't seem real, does he.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
I've been trying to tell my boys that it's different,
y'all here, it's different. It's different. I know, I know,
I know where your goat is. We're gonna get to
that later, but it's different.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
He don't seem real.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
I'm trying to tell people it's different, dude, it's different.
It's different. And how we met for the first time.
It's crazy because Marcus. Marcus is one of my close friends.
We pretty much grew up together. Every screen tour, I
stayed at the house, the house that they just sold.
I will always stay there. And how we met was
we didn't even meet during like Mike. So just imagine.

(41:30):
So I'm over at Marcus the house. I told you
I'm a big Duke fan. That's a North Carolin. That's
a tar Helle. You have it.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
You don't play that.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
I wore rebox to the house. I wore some oss.
That was my guy. After marcus dad retired, AI was
my man. Attacked the break, I just saw me. So
I'm in the house of the opposers. I wake up,
Me and Marcus in his room. We wake up in
the morning. I just see that door crack open like
a father, like a real dad. Hey, what bullshits these?

(42:00):
And Marcus looking like I don't even you already know it,
don't even look at me. It's jump Man forever. I'm
on the floor asleep. I'm like, huh he like d
George Bow, I'm like, yeah, she's going to trash John
Michael Man, Get Get Get, Get, Get Get get a
little mass some kicks ben after I never saw my
officers ever. Yeah, Marcus, throw my officers away, Gone gone.

(42:25):
That was my introduction and ever since then, anytime you
see me, it's short ship. When you're gonna grow, When
you gonna grows short, short ship, look at you. He
ain't gonna go and grow in, look like he always
gonna pop it.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
Yes, he gonna pop Yes.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
And you know that was probably wasn't even probably only
two times I was like, oh wow, okay, okay, these photos,
Oh that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
I mean, people don't know them, but you do realize,
like Lebron is only two years older.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
Than I know. Do you see like talling Yo, I
got one of the coldest pictures. That's crazy.

Speaker 4 (43:04):
Beyonce's five years older than you. Listen, So how do
you think you are in this picture?

Speaker 1 (43:07):
I'm probably like thirteen and then like fourteen, No, thirteen,
probably thirteen on, No, fourteen or I might be fourteen.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
Yeah, I think no, look at this, that picture is incredible.
How is this when you're like you're like six, how
old are you here? That that's whole game.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
I'm like thirteen right there? Hold on, that's probably all
in the same time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because it was
my Almo. Then I want to say, no, I don't
think we were. We were probably working on my album
at the time, cause I got the ice out making
my Shain, so I got the chain already. But I
don't think Bounce when came out. It was about to
come out right, yep, just around money and the thing
era because I came out and performed with jay Z

(43:43):
and JD in Atlanta here at the ah Trup. So yeah, yah,
that's around that time.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
When you see those pictures, what goes through your man?

Speaker 1 (43:52):
Is that kid seventy eight years old now? Yet? Uh? Legacy, legacy?

Speaker 2 (44:00):
How old are you in this picture?

Speaker 1 (44:01):
Thirteen sixteen sixteen? In that picture, yep, Bron was about
to go to le Bron at eighteen sixteen and I
was at a tr when we did that. I got
a cold picture of Lebron after that when he got
to the league that I never shared with nobody, and
I told myself, my boy, noticed are some of the
day he retired. So I'm gonna post it. I got
a fire picture in Atlanta too, Wow with Bron Fire.

(44:24):
Can't wait. I can't wait to post it.

Speaker 4 (44:27):
You did the remakes jumping jumping Destiny's Child's remake. What
was what was your interaction with them? I mean because
the meet beyond because at the time their Destiny Child
Beyonce hadn't gone off on own yet, but they're still
They're the hottest women's.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
Group out absolutely, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
And so you meet them, So what's what's going through
your mind?

Speaker 1 (44:47):
I go to Houston for the first time, okay with
Jad and Bron Michael Cox. Okay, we go down there,
they working on the record. I'm in the studio with them.
Beyonce was younger back then, was the three of the
work with And the thing is we were label mates.
So Destey Child was on Columbia, I was on Columbia.
So we always intertwined, like always was moving through each other.
If I'm at the wards there there, if I'm in
the office having a meeting, I'm in New York, the

(45:08):
girls are there too, so I will always see them.
And that's how me and Salons was able to have
our own friendship and our own thing. And you even
see her play a little part of my career. And
we did a movie together, Johnsan Vacation, and then she
was in one of my videos. And that's how that
whole thing kind of stemmed. And then Yvette, who works
very close to to Beyonce, was also overseeing some of

(45:29):
my projects too, so we were label mate. So it
was just so easy to have that blend. But yeah, man,
it was. It was a pleasure working with them. And
even to this day when I see b she's always
the same, Kelly as well, They're all Michelle, They're always
the same. I can I can say that like, never changed,
never switched up, And I was happy that I had.
I got a chance to work with Destiny's Child, the group, Like,

(45:50):
that's something I hold dearly.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Your song bounds with me. It was in the soundtrack
Big Mama House. How did that? How did that?

Speaker 4 (45:58):
How does the if you get a song on the
soundtrack and it's obviously the movie, how does that help
a song?

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Does it help or does it really take it to
the next level if.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
It's a hit, yeah, if it's a hit yeah. But also,
I mean, like soundtracks were so big back then. They
were talking about Men in Black soundtracks, soundtracks doing double
triple platinum, right, and yes there were the first single
off of a soundtrack usually nine times out of ten
was a smash record, right, and I guess that's what

(46:30):
happened with Big Mama Sauce with Bouncer, because it became
a number one record, right, and it definitely jumped started
everything having placement in the movie, hearing it, and then
bringing it to life with the video on how Jermaine
presented me to because the first single off of that
Big Mama Soaue soundtrack was him and Monica right and
nas and he ushered me in at the end of
that video. It was like, he's the future. Who is

(46:53):
this bust through the door? It's a beat to the
oath that they like, whoa like? Who is this little kid?
And it was the perfect set up, and Jermaine teism
and I remember the screen blowing up off of it,
and then that's how we segue in to bounce him.
He let me do a little bit of bounce them
at the end of the day video and then we
went and shot the real thing.

Speaker 4 (47:10):
Now, okay, you're blowing up, you're doing your rap thing,
you're singing. How did this transition takes the little right
and now you're doing movies? Did you always want to
do that? Did you see that? Naturally?

Speaker 1 (47:25):
I had no idea. I had no idea. I wasn't
even in the plan. By me playing so much basketball
incorporated sports into my videos. Once the were of Dog
came out and we went in Trouble Platinum. It's like
Olly is on this kid. He's the biggest thing in
music right now. And then twentieth Century Fox is working

(47:46):
on his movie about a kid could play basketball pretty good.
We gotta get a little bow out. It's only one
kid and it was because of how hot I was
over here, brought their attention and they came in out me.
So John Schultz director, like Mike came to Columbus, Ohio.
Right this is now, I'm fourteen. I did like Mike
at fourteen fourteen. Now, yeah, we're in the gym. Didn't

(48:09):
after try for the movie cast me. I was cast
before they came down, which is in the gym shooting talking.
It's like how we are and you know, you got
the part of something cooking when they're like, okay, cool,
so you know we got to get the schedule right
and get your hair at you know la, And that
does I think about this. I'm not taking none of
this stuff. He's saying serious, like nothing he's telling me
because I'm so ghetto in my mind that when you

(48:31):
say movie, I'm thinking baller Block and I'm thinking we
about to go shoot a DVD, like straight to DVD.
Like when you say movie to me, like at the age,
I'm mad, that's how far off from Hollywood I was.
I'm thinking like the movies that I like to watch, right,
because movies I like to watch, it don't look like
you know how to make them type of movies.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
So it's just dope.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
So we get to LA. I still don't know how
big this thing is. I reported to set and I
was like, what is going on? I am lost, like
I knew nothing. I never how to acting coach. I
thought I had to memorize my whole script. Like I

(49:09):
didn't know. We break it up in days and we
shoot three scenes. No no, I thought we were gonna
shoot the whole movie in one day, and I thought
I had to memorize this whole script. I was thrown off.
But I've always been the type person throw me in
the water, let me let me figure it out.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
I'll learn how to swim.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
Right.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
Man.

Speaker 4 (49:27):
You look at all these movies all about the Benjamins,
like Mike Johnson's Family Vacation Roll, Bounced the Fast in
the Fear of Tokyo, Drift, a lot of they ticket Medell,
Big Family, A big, happy family, Scary Movie.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Five f nine.

Speaker 4 (49:40):
You've been in TV shows with Steve Harvey, Medisha, Entourage, CSI, Cyber.
Now you having it like, Okay, I got this music
career and I got this acting career. Did you would
you ever torn like I feel like I'm cheating. I
feel like I'm cheating on one or the other.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
Earlier I was earlier in my career was because it
you know, it's the saying that hot, it's the music.
You gotta stay with it. But then as I got
older and I started figuring the music being the South
and the ups, the downs, the stress, I was like,
this Hollywood thing is Hawaii. This is a mess. Once

(50:18):
I got to that point, I could let go of
that feeling because then acting and being on this set
brought me so much happiness because of the stability right
rapping and moving. I'm on the road, I'm toring them
in a different city every night. The sleep patterns off,
I'm in the club. I got a host. I gotta
do this. I got It's just sometimes it's just like woo,
woo wooooo. It just becomes a lot with the acting
side of things. You know what you're shooting Monday through

(50:39):
Friday schedule, you know what time to wake up. It's
the same thing. It's like a nine to five that
just pay like an unne ef you know what I'm saying.
That's all it is, right, and that's what made me
love acting more than the music. At that particular time.
I can't say. I can't it's not the same, not
the same.

Speaker 4 (51:00):
The first movie He Is, if I'm not mistaken, it
was all about the Benjamins with Mike ELPs and Q.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
Correct and if that's not correct, and it's Carmen with
Beyonce and most death. Okay, I did Carmen. Robert Townsend
directed that movie.

Speaker 4 (51:13):
So you do the Mike ELPs and and and Q.
How did how did that come about?

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Being bow Wow? Being the hottest kid in the world
and que want of a badass boy to play that
part in similar like Mike Go get a Little bow Wow.
I remember being in Miami. That was the first time
I went. It was hot as hell, yes, and I
was sitting all day when we played these interview bad people.

(51:40):
Several labels set on this. Yeah, definitely was, but it
was it was cool, it was fun. It was fun.
I remember like it was just they worked with Mike
Epps and working with CE and then took fast forward
time and now look it's like damn you mentioned lottery
ticket and now they in my movie Q and Mike
caps like full circle. I went from having three lines

(52:01):
with Mike to him starring in my movie with me.
So wow, God is good.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
And then you do like Mike, and you have NBA players.

Speaker 4 (52:09):
You have Ai Bench, Carter Trades, some with t Max,
Steve Francis, Dirk, Gary Peyton, Gary Payton, what's your favorite
what's your favorite moment about being on the set. And
now all of a sudden, these NBA players, Because at
once point a time you wanted to be.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
A bad one player.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
Oh and so now you're on you got your own movie. Yeah,
and you're on the set and you got NBA players.
These some of the best NBA players. I was doing
to them what cats do to me.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
If I go to a U r L battle, if
I go somewhere, you'll Battlet me rap for you, let
me let me get that what man. I was challenging
left and right, I need that. I need that one
on one. I got no cap. Jason Kidd played me,
Gary Payton played me. One on one. I beat Lonzo
even though he wasn't just talking about NBA players in general,

(52:55):
beat him. That's recorded as document. Lonzo ball ball did
I with no shoes on? You cooked it with no shoes.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
You got the footage.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
It's everywhere.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
You cooked them. Wow, you cooked them.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
They were talking about this onpo that Oh man, what
Lakers came down here in Tatlanta when he was playing
with the Lakers, all of them, Brandon Ingham, everybody was
at the studio. We got it, you know, Jermaine got it.
We got a gym inside full court basketball court. I'm
not playing around, okay, I need that. I need that

(53:31):
bow no shoes on bow. I beat him in the
first round, the second round and came back. He did
his thing. He took it real seriously, he wasn't playing
because we was filming, so I knew he was like this.
They about to put that out of course, of course,
of course put that out there.

Speaker 4 (53:49):
Being at your height in the movie, you dunked. Yeah,
what's that feeling like? Because you have to like build
a back like I want to know what it feels like.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
I was nervous. Really, I would never because we had
tested like I was on this harness, on this brig
So as I'm running, I remember they pulled it too
hard and it's like whoa. When I got to the
rim too fast and it was like yo, and we
got to slow it down a little bit. But once
we got it, I really had to run and then
they would do it and then I would go up.
It was I loved it was fun.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
You're doing all kind of crazy dunk. Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
I was ready for the league then I was ready.

Speaker 4 (54:25):
What about You know Lebron did did a remake of
Space Jam? Would you like Lebron to do a remake?
Is there somebody out there that could do a remake
of like Mike? Would you like to see a remake
of Like Mike? Or is it too soon?

Speaker 1 (54:39):
I don't think it's too soon. I think it should
have happened already, right. And they tried to do a
part two. They try to take it to the street
ball aspect. That's when it didn't do good. To this day,
I don't and the fans don't consider that a part
two to nothing. I don't even like talk about it,
you know what I'm saying. But I definitely feel that
there is something there's been. I did is that we've

(55:01):
been playing around with just talking nothing locked in even
if it's my daughter or you know, does Calvin have
a son? Now? You know?

Speaker 2 (55:11):
I like that?

Speaker 1 (55:11):
And my am I now is more Chestnut now the
head coach or he's the owner. Am I still playing
and I'm now the yeah, like what's the dynamic? And
we definitely can do it now, I feel because even
women's basketball is dominating to But I just see it.
I see the Steph Curry, I see Broun, I see KD.
Deep book. I just see that cover of with the

(55:34):
new Guys, and I think that'd be dope to do
it if done right. And I think that it's highly possible.
What if Nike released like Mike Shoe, I would with
my me and Nike spoke about this and then we
did it. I'll be happy as alsha what to come
up because a lot of people don't know the l
like Mike Shoe was the convers the doctor to convers. Yes,

(55:55):
you have no idea like they had. We have the blazer,
which is the shoe I actually wore the movie. And
then we have the Converts Tar Hill with the star
with the doctor j joont Yes, and it was it was,
it was. We was torn between the two twentis is rock.
They could not pick Fox could not pick. They were like, Yo,

(56:15):
I'm like, you gotta go with the Nike, Like what
are we talking about here? So and they dropped the
Blazer and people still rock the Blazers. They're come in
different flavors. But I definitely felt like being at that
movie was so iconic and so monumental. The Blazers should
have came out, even me. Do you imagine how much
money not you would have made it. They would have

(56:36):
sold the light mic shoe, Yeah, like right in time
in the movie release and put that shoot out right.
That would have been crazy.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
Another guy that you played one on one with, Kobe
rest his soul.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
I knew he was gonna bring this one up.

Speaker 4 (56:48):
You got it. Hell no, See Kobe don't take key.
He don't take it either. He going for the gun.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
Yo.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
Let me tell you man, Yo, I thought I was
gonna have a cool moment for the internet, like I'm
about to go play cole Ma Matha. You know, do
my little thing, make a little couple of buckets, and
you know it's gonna be what it's gonna be. I went.
The only reason why we played was because Jermaine's assistant
at the time played Kobe and got smoked, I mean bad.

(57:20):
So I'm like, man, hold up, hold up, hold up,
hold up, hold up. I ain't no, no, no, hold up.
And at the and at that time, I'm big on
Bron like I think bron is like, and I want
my Cleveland Indian had to the to the to the
to Kobe camp all out like, man, you ain't about
to d him like that. I'm like, it's team Heat.
I'm like, you like what you want. I'm like, man, yeah,
you were still playing. I don't want to play. So
Jermaine like, all right, hold up, hold up, hold on,

(57:41):
hold up, and I'm gonna tell you something. All that
he bow wow and he nah. He took it for real.
I left Yo, I left that gym, and I said,
I will never play in the NBA, nor do I
want to. I was so sword. Then I went to Orlando.

(58:02):
That's right. I went to Orlando to go hang out
with Chris. We go to a Magic's game, Big Baby,
lands on me. Now it's the next day after I
play card. I'm sore in his hand right, his big
ass lands on me, like I'm like this, I just
couldn't do it like Kobe. None, he's got you none.

(58:23):
He smothered me. He he pat his thumb in my waist.
He was doing like he was playing you like a
real He was hand checking and going. And that if Kobe,
I promise God rest his soul, if he was allowed
right now, if he was allowed to play defense like
he played defense on me in the league or the
league could play defense like that nowadays, it'd be a problem.
Like he literally had his thumb like in my side.

(58:45):
He was telling me, you're gonna go where with them.
I'll tell you to go. You're gonna go where. I'm like,
I'm doing this. He said, yeah, slap me, push me,
push me. I like that shit pushed me. And then
we're so dope about the one on one is people
got a chance to see Kobe in the light that
they never got a chance to seekoking. Yeah, you hear
about the Mama bntality, but it's hard to hear when
you're watching TV. But when we said the YouTube we

(59:07):
play one on one. You hear him my condolences. Man, Man,
we can't play like that. I don't get I don't
give it. Who said you can make rules? It ain't
no rules. And he talking to me, talking to me crazy,
talking to me like I'm not bad. He talking like yeah,
And the bet was a thousand dollars or if I
made one shot, he was gonna pay for two floor

(59:28):
seats for the entire year for me. He was gonna
eat that.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
Damn. You know the Lakers tickets cast to it.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
That's why he ain't. That's why he went so hard,
because you know, you we courside of gaining them.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
We know I must have we day up there.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
Yeah, so to pay for two for the whole year.
What I was trying my best to go out this
You try to get one basket. Look, it's all you
had to get with one basket. Listen, man, it was
a clip. If we watch it, we play it back
where he missed the ball, the ball go over here,
I go get the ball. I swear to god, I
grabbed the ball. You're gonna hear Jermaine saying, let's go.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
Bal showed it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
Shoot it. I wanted to, but by the time I
raised up. It was no time like even though it
was price space, the way he closed out that's six'
six that, man it turned into like seven to. One i'm, like,
oh hell, NO i, SAID i ain't shooting. It then
he just slapped the ball in my. Hand he pushed

(01:00:20):
me around and throwing. Me i'm, like, MAN i can't do.
It then he dunk throw.

Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
Me Day, by all you had to do was get
one basket and you get floor sets to The lakers
game for the whole.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
YEAR i tried my.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Hardest he wouldn't let me do, it wouldn't let me,
dribble he wouldn't let me. Dribble i'm having the, ball.
Man he reaching over, me grabbed me like mm. Hmm
god rest his. Soul and, yeah, man that that meant
something to. Me that's SOMETHING i can go back at my.

(01:00:52):
Life that right there is like a bucket, List like
every kid would love to Bela Kobe bryant one on
one Play kobe and then for that to tragedy. Happen,
Yeah that's Something i'm always hold dearly to my.

Speaker 4 (01:01:03):
Heart, yeah for, sure you. Do Johnson Family. Vacation steve, Said,
salon you had you knew salons before you, Did joe, right, yep.
Yep so that's what it made it. Easy so what
was it like on the? Set because you got two great,
Comedians said And, steve they probably kept it like the entire.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
Time they did they. Did they was always joking, around
and especially when you were with, comedians the best part
is they go off. Script that's when they had their.
Best they were pay. Attention you'll be watching them and
miss your turn, like oh, damn it's, me it's my,
line my. Fault they went off script and that's when
that's when comedians at their. Best, no no story really
sticks out really crazy Because steve came and shot all

(01:01:41):
of his parts on one. Day If i'm not, mistaken really,
yep he was in. Out, Yeah steve was in and.
Out But i's spent a lot of, TIME i, said
learning from, him talking to him and saying knows how
to turn it on it off, right like, said is
a real cool Saint Louis Cat like he's just laid,
back super, cool and you know he'll say things and
it'd be, funny like, man you know that dude over

(01:02:02):
there that She he'll say like. Something but he was
always super cool AND i remember just being in school
all the. Time that's ALL i was, doing working on
movies in it was. SCHOOL i spend more time in
the classroom THAN i did on. Set that's HOW i
go right roll. Bounds you Got Nick cannon making, Good Mike,
ELPs Charlie. Murphy what what was it about?

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
That how was that? Set roll?

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
Bounce set Was i'm trying to find the word to
describe it to. Me it would, Work it was. WORK
i was at a DIFFERENT i was in a different
place in my. LIFE i was sixteen on the, seventeen
living In chicago on my, own becoming a young man

(01:02:46):
now smelling myself a little a little too. BIT i
was in a weird space in. Life that's WHY i
was able to do that role and do it BECAUSE
i wasn't, acting you know WHAT i. MEAN i was
just getting paid to show my, real raw emotions and
that's What that's HOW i was. Feeling the scene with the,
car me breaking, it crying and it was intense like
that movie. Brought that movie turned me into an. Actor

(01:03:07):
working With sean, McBride i remember before we the day
before we shot that, scene the garage, scene the, car
he told, me look, Tomorrow i'm not gonna talk to.
YOU i was, like what he's, Like i'm not Gonna
i'm not gonna say what he. WANT i need. You locked,
In i'm gonna need. YOU i need you. TOMORROW i
didn't understand what that. Meant came to set next morning

(01:03:28):
when the trailer good, morning everybody was.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Up what's, up?

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
Shy they don't no good morning? Back, okay, cool it's a.
Character So I'm i'm going off your. Energy Then i'm
on what you. Own SO i did the same thing.
TOO i locked, IN i ain't want to. Talk and
when we got to that, set he drove himself. Down
he drove his car and set in the car and,
said don't call me out here until y'all called. Rolling

(01:03:53):
and he told me right before they Called, Action i'm
about to bring it out your ass. Today i'm bringing
out you. TODAY i ain't know what he. Meant it's
like you about to see it different you. Today. Action
damn right into. It looking at, him my, MOM i
just start. CRYING i JUST i don't. Know it was
just he and he just gave me the biggest hug

(01:04:13):
after he was done doing, it and Sound i'm so
proud of. You there was his real. Tears then he
really cried with, me Like i'm so proud you are an, actor.
Boy and that day was the DAY i, said oh,
Yeah AND i never had an acting, coach, nothing but
that was the. Day that was the day that you, Said,
Okay i'm an. ACTOR i can finally Say i'm an.
Act i'm not a rapper who. Acts i'm an. Actor. Yeah,

(01:04:35):
Yeah i'm not getting these roles because of the rap.
Stuff no. More i'm getting them BECAUSE i can do,
it And i'm going on tape And i'm killing. It
AND i took it very, seriously very.

Speaker 4 (01:04:43):
Serious you Did fast and The, furious but Like Van Diefel, luda,
yeah those, GUYS.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
I worked with, him you did the last one. Yo,
YAH i finally got a chance to.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
Work, yeah, YEAH i.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
WAS i was waiting on, that LIKE i was, like,
okay we got to meet up at some. Point because
the movies That ludle wasn't in were the ones THAT
i was. IN i felt like the louter of those
movies pretty. MUCH i was the you, KNOW i was the, rapper,
right you know What i'm. Saying and for me to
get that opportunity to be in the scene With reese And.
LUDA i always visioned that, that BUT i always Visit
twiggy has to Meet luther's. Character its is only right

(01:05:18):
that they, meet and that was the dynamic of that
scene was. Us this was the first time we've ever
seen each other in, life but we've heard of each,
other but we never. Met so that was. Dope and
then to work With Vin Diesel he SO i worked
With vinezel. Twice such a good, dude stand up, dude
easy to work, with the whole, family easy to work,
with like, fast, faster and fear of sets is it

(01:05:39):
don't feel like work because everyone's been together for ten plus, years,
Right so it's just we get. It you don't have
to worry about kneeling that the way you don't have
to worry about coming to set that that SCENE i
carry in my. Line, man it's, Normal like it's just so.
Normal it's so easy. Going and working With Justin, lynn
WHO i feel is the, greatest fast and furious, director Right,

(01:06:01):
OKAY i feel that deeply in my. Heart AND i
had the chance to work with him on his first,
one which Was Tokyo.

Speaker 4 (01:06:06):
Drip right, now this is the last one coming. Up
they bring in the rock. Back you're gonna be in that.
One if they called me.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
There we're, There, andy they called me, there we're.

Speaker 4 (01:06:16):
There, right you worked at H medea's what big happy
family With tyler per because you, Know i've heard only
great things about about you, know his set and how
professionally it, is how he, pays how he takes care of.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
His whoa put it his. Way you know how long
you might play for a. Team, yeah and let's say
you about, it you get traded about to go to the. Team,
yeah and you get like, a let's See Bill. Belichick
you done went from having a, cool fun. Coach, yeah
you're doing it your, way and then you get. Traded

(01:06:50):
Now Bill belichick your? Coach you like ad Damn, yeah,
OKAY i got beyond my best, Behavior, YES i got
beyond My. YEAH tp like. That oh, yeah most. Definitely
because his style is he comes from, plays so he's
used to things moving very very quickly. Quick so WHEN

(01:07:11):
i got to, Set i'm always, preparous So i'm never.
Worried i'm ready for. Whatever first scene was the hardest
scene of the, day he gave. Me i'll never. Forget
first scene was the backyard. Scene with the. Fellas it
was a long. SCENE i, said, damn are he giving
us the scene? First this is the first scene the, gate,
like he don't want us to crawl into it, now

(01:07:32):
and he wants you to move. Fast you gotta know
it on, next, close, Next so it's like you gotta get.
It and he's so hands on and he's a. Genius
he is the person that came in with the. Byering
that WAS. Tp he did that BECAUSE i Remember tiana
going off with me in the scene and all you

(01:07:55):
hear is Mister perry behind the thing On Patsril. Weaver
you gotta pad it a little, harder pada like thisa
get in and getting. THERE i want to, Say byn
the crew, Labbing i'm trying not to. Laugh but he saw.
It he's watching the monitor and he's like something's missing
in the middle of the. Scene he'll just throw stuff at,

(01:08:16):
you like and you got to be able to get
with it and. Go And Tianna grass and she got.
It she's, like get getto even, more get over with
it bybe. MAN i want you to annoy. People, Wow
and boy did she she she did not. Disappoint she
did not. Disappoint so that was A tiler. Thing, he's
LIKE i, said he knows how To he mixes that

(01:08:37):
play stuff with the movie and AND i love. IT
i love working With tyler BECAUSE i love to work.
FAST i love to move. On And tyler is the
only PERSON i know in the film business who can
shoot a, movie a big production, movie in seven days
and it's gonna come to the theater and you'll think
it took three. Months he knows he changed the.

Speaker 3 (01:08:56):
Game.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
Man i'm telling you that man changed the. Game i'm seeing.
It It's i'm, Like i'll be on, Sets i'm, like oh my.
God which was A Tyler Perry studio.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
Production they moved.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Fast so, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
How would it work WITH T T? Telly I'ma Taylor.

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
Oh, fun been DOING tt for, ever like super cool, person.
Talented now she's, directed which is. Dope AND i want
to say that was her first. Movie, yeah that was
her first movie she. Did she did really, really really
really good AND i expect to see on more. STUFF
i think she should have did more right after. That

(01:09:32):
but LIKE i, said she's very talented AND i wish
nothing but the best For. Tea that's my.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
Job.

Speaker 4 (01:09:38):
Bowder you remember the first time you open up your
bank account and you saw a, thousand one hundred, thousand
a million dollars in your.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
Account, Nope BUT i remember turning, eighteen had to go
back To columbus AND i had to sit in front
of that. Judge he's, like, okay about to turn over your.
FINANCES i was like, okay because you know when you
it was like the jack in the, beginning you fill
the TRUST, yep you can't touch. It it's got like
A Jackie coogan account or somebody DOES i say that?

(01:10:05):
Right so, YEAH i think that's what they call. It
correct me If i'm, wrong but, yeah you can't touch
it like your parents. Can't. Nobody the judge oversees, it
and then when you turn, eighteen he turns it's, okay
turns it over to. You here you. Go AND i
was so happy because he. Did the judge never understood
WHY i needed A ferrari at. SEVENTEEN i had to

(01:10:26):
go to him for every major. Purchase he had to approve.
It And i'm, LIKE i am a rap. Star YEAH
i need, Money YEAH i need A, Trump YEAH i
need A. Ferrari it's not. Safe he can do something
like a three SERIES bmw will be. Perfect it's, like,
bro like you you know WHO i?

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
Am you talking about a three, series three Series.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
Beamber SO i, mean that's that's WHAT i can get or,
get you. Know i'm, like you don't understand the. Culture.
DOG i can't wait TILL i turn eighteen and get.
It but, yeah of, course, man you always remember seeing.
That even to this, DAY i still get. Excited like
my manager will go over numbers and you know What i'm,
saying we'll have no business and he always shows me
stuff And i'm, like, Damn god is. Good yeah that's

(01:11:14):
ALL i can. Say god is.

Speaker 4 (01:11:15):
Good when they turned when they turned the account over to,
you what was your first major?

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
PURCHASE i went car crazy because Remember, Jermaine, YEAH i
had to catch HIS. A, yeah SO i. Went my
first purchase WAS. A i wanted. IT i started off,
small BUT i really wanted this, car The Nie him
FIFTY z when they first came.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
Out, OKAY i wanted.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
Them it was.

Speaker 4 (01:11:36):
Cool, everybody that's your fast and furious or something like.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
That NOT i do.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
FACT i did fast after, fact, YEP i wanted that.
Cars just thought it was. Cool, yeah got. That you
know how it. Is you started getting more, money see different.
THING i went From, NOW i gotta gone on A
Maserati maserati second. Car AND i kept calling The Maserati
ferrari because you know they Sell maserati at The ferari.
Dealership SO i just tell my, ABOY i got A Ferrari.
Kari they're, like, what, OH i got A Ferrari maserati

(01:12:03):
black on. Black they're, like you got A maserati, right, no, no,
no So ferrari. Misarati it don't. EXIST i didn't like
them telling me that doesn't. Exist you had to go
get took it, back ripen yellow three, Sixty you got A.
Rari so at the time WHEN i had the yellow three,
SIXTY i had. THAT i had The Billy Rover Hummer,

(01:12:27):
mayback took the Yellow frari, back got a drop red
fo Thirty spider had that for a, minute got rid
of that and got a rage Lambou mercelago bought. THAT
i went car. Crazy that's ALL i loved was CAUSE
i already had the. HOUSE i, WANT i want the.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
Whips, yeah BECAUSE i what was that your reality?

Speaker 4 (01:12:45):
Show you and your mom and you went and got
the maybox yept.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
My second May. BACK i bought my mom bought me
my very first twenty first birthday, right and THEN i
didn't really see a point of having. One then it
was a waste of. Money but WHEN i went and
bought my may back on the, SHOW i bought that.
One BUT i really NOW i can enjoy it because
the lifestyle is. DIFFERENT i don't want to get car
having the duy And i'm going out hosting And i'm,

(01:13:09):
working or if it's a late now at the studio
And i'm trying to make it all the way back
to the other side of, town which is you, Know
atlanta traffic crazy fifty five. Minutes, Yeah i'm. Far so it's,
LIKE i never want to be putting in. Situations So
i've got the may back just for comfort, reasons and
it just makes sense for. ME i live far filming every,
day trapping is moving and grooving out and, besides like

(01:13:30):
even after, THIS i used to love just getting in my,
car taking my shoes and kick. Back you ain't got
to worry about. That you ain't got to worry about,
nothing right. Nothing so, yep this concludes the first half
of my.

Speaker 4 (01:13:40):
Conversation part two is also posted and you can access
it to whichever podcast platform you just listen to part
one on just simply go back to club profile And
i'll see you there

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