Colin is joined by John Middlekauff, host of “3 and Out” to break down the college football playoff.
They start with Indiana’s blowout of Alabama and Colin explains why Curt Cignetti’s coaching has produced a Hoosier team that’s great in every facet of the game (2:00). They also break down what makes Fernando Mendoza such a great quarterback (9:45).
They move to Oregon dominating Texas Tech and Colin highlights the talent discrepancy between the two teams and they agree that this young Oregon roster is going to be even better next year (18:15).
They recap Miami’s thumping of Ohio State and Colin predicts the Hurricanes will meet Indiana in the championship game. They credit Mario Cristobal’s recruiting prowess for building a physically imposing roster full of NFL talent (25:45).
They preview the semifinal round and make their predictions for those games (37:00).
Finally, they discuss USC’s loss to TCU and Colin argues Lincoln Riley should be on the hot seat next season for failing to develop a defense during his tenure (38:00).
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going to do some college football stuff tonight. Everything from
Ohio State losing, Lincoln Riley's current situation at USC, the
Oregon win, the Indiana route of Alabama. There's a lot
to talk about. Let's start with Indiana. It's you know,
there's two I had two strong feelings going into today.
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I didn't have a strong feeling on Oregon Texas Tech.
I thought it would be ugly and low scoring, and
it was for Texas Tech. I thought nine and a
half to Miami was the side, and I thought Indiana
was going to blow out Alabama. I've watched Alabama play.
This is probably the sixth time I've yet to watch
him play a complete game, even the games in which
I love their game plan. John, they can't run the
football and ty Simpson to me, if you pressure him.
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I just thought Indiana was going to get a big,
relentless pass rush and I was going to have I
think Mendoz is great. I think he's really good college quarterback.
Are you shocked Indiana we're doing this now? When they
lead twenty four to nothing, it's not competitive. Are you
shocked by the ease of it?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Well, I'm not once you watch it, but going into it,
you have these long breaks between This isn't the NFL,
right where you play every week, so you kind of
forget and then I go, oh, yeah, they were the
team that just beat Ohio State and have as good
of a defense. They hit Colin like they're the University
of Miami and the brand. Let's face it, Once you
don't watch them for a couple of weeks, it kind
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of seeps back in and then you realize, no, this
is the best coach team in the country. Right, Sure,
we'll get into USC They would die to have a
coach this physical. I mean, one thing you watch Signetti,
he runs an NFL operation. They bring an offensive lineman
in the backfield. They have a physical presence in their
run game. They run. You know, Fernando Mendoza is an
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extremely talented player, but he excels because they have a
great defense, a great running game, of physical you know,
just operation, and then he dominates within that. And to me,
they're coordinators and their head coaches mentality. You might as
well just take Indiana away and throw a blue blood
brand on it for those of us that have been
watching college football forever because we're thrown off by Indiana.
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But they're as good as any team we've seen the
last several years. They just have a different brand.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah, And I think if you watch their tackling, they're
the best tackling team I've seen in college football. I mean,
I keep thinking over the last twenty four hours, Miami
and Indiana are the two most physically capable teams in
the country. I think Georgia is good, but I've seen
Georgia's druggle offensively for long stretches. Indiana runs the ball
on everybody in Indiana. There they're receivers. I don't know
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how great they are. They make tough catches. I mean
they just that team catches the ball. They tackle exceedingly well.
They've run on everybody to some degree. And you know,
I was sitting there. I was I was talking to
an NFL GM today about Kurt Signetti and he knew him,
and he said, you know, his dad is coaching. He said,
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what he basically's done. He's the opposite Elaine Kiffin, where
you know he had, you know, a dad that coached.
But he wasn't this like high flying hot candidate. He
just did everything. He's run recruiting. He's a CEO that's
been in every department of the company until he gets
the company. And he's so well versed in recruiting and
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O line play and like, I mean, just everything. They're
so buttoned up. I told a buddy today, they will
remind me you would remember this kind of the Don
James Huskies when Washington was a national power. They had
very good talent, not always the best, but very good talent,
and NFL quarterback. But they always won special teams. They
were great tackling, they ran on everybody, and they'd hit
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on an occasional big plays and it didn't matter who
they were playing. They it could be usc but you
always felt you had the best coach. And when I
watched Signettes's team, I'm like, it's like Saban without the yelling,
without the volume. Like he just sits on that sideline.
He's almost a mad scientist. He's always got a scowl.
I'm just I think Signettes's teams are so tight and
so smart. John. When Alabama tried that fake punt early
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in the game and they were gonna punt, did they
moved Tys Simpson up to the line and who's your
players were all like it was almost they were so
prepared for it. And then they didn't bite on like
three fakes and I was like, Okay, a lot of
college teams would bite on this. This team is coached
almost professionally at Indiana.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
To me, two things always stand out for physical football teams,
because you know, any team with good defensive lineman can
look like a physical team. Do your defensive backs hit
their's due and run? And can you run the ball
in any situation they can. And obviously their quarterback factors
into the run game as well because he can take
off at any moment. But they had the offensive lineman
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in the Big ten of the year. You know, when
you think who is the best offensive lineman in the
Big ten, what do you think? Iowa, Michigan. You know,
historically Pete's teams would have had a bunch of them
back in the day, right, Oregon's had a ton of
offensive linemen. No, it's the Indiana left tackle. And you
know what's funny. As I start texting around him because
this guy a blue chip, you know, high round pick,
They're like, well, we don't know if he's gonna come out,
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but he's probably gonna be a guard. So it's not
like he's doing this with a guy that's gonna go number.
You know, it's this isn't Joe Alt playing left tackle,
So there is Listen. I worked for Pat Hill, who
used to employ Kurtzignetti's brother Frank, and my cousin was
on those teams in the mid two thousand. He's like,
you know what's funny is here in Kurt talk. Frank
was a lot. They have a little arrogance about him.
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Theyve been around football their entire life, right, and like
you said, this guy wasn't handed, Like even when he
got to work for Nick Saban, he had already kind
of worked his way up. I saw Philip Rivers. Did
you see the clip? He was Philip Rivers quarterback coach
and offensive coordinator. And Philip was talking about twenty years ago,
that was before Nick Saban. But then he took you know,
Nick Saban said, you know, I remember on game day
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earlier this year, he said, I used to present my
coaches sometimes, you know these jobs. Hey, Jimmy came to
me so and so jobs open, and everyone in the
room would laugh, you know, like I up. I and
the one guy that used to always rate Kurtz Signetti
was always interested in, like I'm ready. I want to
because I want to be a head coach. And you
and I talk a lot about this with the coordinators
thing in the NFL. You know, Fangio Flora is about
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to get a These coordinators are now making five six
million dollars. Like you can be a coordinator for a
long time and make millions of dollars, you know in
college historically, like sometimes if you weren't getting a call.
You might have to take a lower to your job
and it could shoot you right up. And it took
him a long time. Like when he said google me,
everyone laughed rightfully so because it was funny. But when
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you did google him, it's got a little Klin duboor like.
All he did was win at a lower level that
usually translates.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
So Mendoz is so interesting to me against the Blitz today.
At the time we're doing this, he was six for six.
And the two things that jumped out about this game.
Coming into this game, every team with a buy was
zero and six. And what you had noticed and you
saw this with Ohio State, they weren't physically ready. They
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got pushed around for the verse quarter because when you have,
you know, two three weeks off, you don't tackle a lot.
And you watch the first two series Indiana Alabama, Indiana
was tackling Indiana. You could tell Kurt Signetti their time off,
they hit, they did hitting. And that's what's really the
difference is you just don't tackle much when you have
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time off. You're given nineteen twenty year old kids three
four weeks off. They may you know, they may be
undisciplined right there with their buddies. They're hanging out. They're
not hitting as much in practice. So that's the first thing.
The second thing with Mendoza, I know he doesn't. He
reminds me a lot of Andrew Luck. Now Luck I
think was a better scrambler, but Mendoza. And I'm watching
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this here live. Mendoza on two or three times today,
decided I'm going to run John. He's big, he is
a bit And when you're six' five and you run
and you just lean, forward you see this With Josh
allen Or Banner Cam, newton it's an extra three. Yards
these guys are. Big mendoza has a way of. Running
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he doesn't blow you, away but he leans into it
and all of a sudden you look up and you're, like,
oh he got seven yards. Running and the other thing
that jumps out to me about him he doesn't miss
on the bubble, screens on the stuff out of the
flat like it's a little the opposite Of Kayleb. Williams
we love the high. Side you don't know about the.
Layups this kid gives. Me he's Like. Herbert he doesn't
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miss the layup all the stuff underneath the drag, routes the,
flats you, know all your bubble. Stuff he's one hundred
for one. Hundred he just hits on all of that.
STUFF i don't. KNOW i know a lot of people
say they have questions about, him but sixty eight percent
career completion, percentage he's unbelievable against The. Blitz that's a
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Little Drake. May by the, Way Drake may's very good
against The, blitz which usually year two in THE. Nfl you're,
NOT i. DON'T i can't believe he would not be
the number one.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Pick, YEAH i, MEAN i haven't talked to anyone with questions.
ANYMORE i, MEAN i think he cemented as the number one.
GUY i think after. Today, Again i'm not trying to
overreact to one, game BUT i think most people are
kind of universally rooting For Dante moore to go back to. School,
yeah he doesn't have to go to The, jets because
at the end of the, day when you're coming out
as a, quarterback these guys are making millions of dollars
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in college and you get you get a raise when
you're a top, pick but ultimately you're trying to play
in THE. Nfl for a decade plus and make hundreds
of millions of. Dollars and we now have a couple
of recent examples trailer As Anthony richardson And Dante moore
is better than those, guys but like their career is
done ever making money like that that rookie. Contract so
you See Fernando, Mendoza like you, know this game against
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The raiders and The, CHIEFS i mean The chiefs right
now have the ninth. Pick they are incentivized to lose
because depending on how it shakes, out they could be
as high as. Eight well it's not just drafting. Eight,
well they only would have to give a second round
pick maybe to move up three or four slots to
get the best defensive player on the. Board it's a
or they go, Back like that's a prime. POSITION i
mean The chiefs have been drafted thirty. Two So Adie
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reid is incentivized to lose this game against The. Raiders
now potentially if The giants lose The, COWBOYS i think
The raiders can still keep it win or lose the.
Game but like that's a, guy and then obviously the,
character how smart the kid. IS i, mean he's just
a high level. Guy when they told the story about
him getting all the guys in the, heisman everyone who
was gonna tend their background. Information do you know what
that sounded like a guy that if he didn't play
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football and had gone To, Calor, indiana would be running
taking over For Jamie diamond in like fifteen twenty years
and would be one of those he would. Be he
would crush it in. Life he just happens to be
six or five, athletic big arm likes. Football that same
thing With Andrew. Luck Andrew luck could have easily just
never played. Football ran an architecture, firm not Not Rand stanford,
football but Ran stafford the. University and that's what to.
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Me and people like he's kind of, goofy he who
kind of likes goofy. Coaches they don't want to have
to worry about, you you. Know you know The cousins. Thing,
look the knock On cousins was he was wasn't that
he was like goofy and. Religious it was he wasn't
good enough that that was enough that people love the
guy from the. Jump it was he wasn't talented. Enough
that's not the case. Here he's playing WITH nfl wide receivers.
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Too the serat kid definitely IS i Mean, becker the
little white guys picking plays left and. Right that goes,
okay Because indiana looks like AN nfl. Team they like
to run the, ball they have a couple of wide,
receivers they RUN nfl schemes with. Signetti, yeah it immediately
translates to. Me the question is, like If i'm, him,
hey spy Tech Tom, brady can we clean up the
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organization a little bit. BEFORE i just signed up to
come here Because i'm not signing up for everything that's
going on there right.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Now. YEAH i talked to AN nfl head coach three
weeks ago and he told me That mendoza is one
of the easiest quarterbacks to profile going into a draft
Because indiana runs so MUCH nfl. Stuff he, goes it's so,
easy he, goes you can watch twenty five thirty five
plays Of indiana and you know what throws he can
make and what what he can and can't. Do he,
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goes he's going to BE i.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Mean he made every throw today that you would see
on AN nfl Game saturday or.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Someday and by the, way everybody Loves Ty. SIMPSON i
talked to a general manager two weeks. AGO i, SAID
i don't get. IT i think he's just a, guy
and and THE gm, said he is just a. Guy
bama's got, great great wide. Receivers caylin De boor is
an excellent offensive. Coach he couldn't do anything. Today and
when you juxtapose him With, mendoza it's a different looking. Player,
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now not, CLOSE i.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Would, SAY i would put saying there. TOO i Mean
mendoza looks physically different than. Saying he looks much more
poised under. Pressure that's the other. Thing he moves. Forward
you Watch Ty simpson and saying they kind of go
backwards or. Sideways mendoza's looking to go. Forward and that
is a big. Deal for. SACKS i Mean yesterday's saying
it was sacked like five times for like almost fifty.
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Yards you know that you can't take seven eight yard
sacks in, college let alone in THE. Nfl they're DRIVE
i think ninety five percent of drives end on a
punt when you take a. Sack so when you See,
mendoza like there were plays Where bama was close to,
him he moved, away he moved. Forward isn't he a
good example too of we've seen this now With, burrow
you Know baker years. Ago guys that just stay in
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college get better work on their, craft and now at
the transfer, portal you can really line yourself. Up kind
of a unique. Situation people, go why weren't all these
other teams? Interested his brother was on the, team so
there was obviously a connection with the. Family but he
definitely made the right decision if other people were.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Calling, yeah he played At cal for two, years so
you can't just look at him In indiana and, go,
well he's GOT nfl. Guys cal is you, Know cal
Had Jared, Goff cal Had Aaron. Rodgers these places Like
cal OR Nc state which don't have five star, guys right,
like you have to play with average guys college football.
Players Kurt signetti has done a lot of high end.
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RECRUITING i, mean if you go but he worked With,
saban did a lot of. Recruiting he spotted, him AND
i just he's easy to root. For i've always said
one of the things that turns me off with quarterbacks
is trying to be. Cool The Johnny, manziel The Cam,
newton you know THAT i want to be. Cool baker
had a little bit of, that but not as. Much
baker WAS i think pretty a smart. Kid he just
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he had a chip on his. Shoulder it wasn't a cool.
Thing it was a chip on his shoulder. Thing But
Jay cutler had a little bit of that little loof
a little too cool for. SCHOOL i like dorky. GUYS
i liked Luck tom Brady is first ten years was.
DORKY i mean he was his first ten years.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Mean And Hayden, MANNING i don't think is like mister
cool guy walking into the. Room you, know he's like
a football.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Nerd, YEAH i mean like like Like Kirk, cousins say
what you want that dude's get an. Extend he's still slinging.
It SO i don't. KNOW i JUST i Find mendoza
the remarkable young, man AND i think he's gonna crush
in THE.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Nfl you know all that, Matters, Colin AND i think
you saw this in The Ohio state game when his,
teammates the entire team on that stage gravitated toward. Him you,
know whether you're six foot five or whether you're Like Brock,
purty who's in your corner as a. Quarterback and we
have a long now list of. Guys we've seen a
lot in THE nfl over the last twenty plus years
where it's, LIKE i don't think they like this guy that.
Much and you Watch mendoz in That Ohio state, game
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and those guys gravitated toward. HIM i, went, whoa this
Guy's it's not like he'd been there three, years, right
he'd only been there nine. Months it's, like these guys
love this.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Guy by the. Way now it's thirty one to Three, Indiana.
Okay oregon Beats Texas tech twenty three to. Nothing, Listen
Texas tech had eighty eight yards offense in the first.
Half Dante more was twenty six to thirty, three no,
touchdowns one. Pick it was a really really ugly. GAME
i Think oregon should have blown him out thirty five.
Nothing the totally, dominated but they had. Penalties i'll tell
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you That Finny, kid that That Brandon Finny kidd had
like three, turnovers two, picks three. Picks he had a.
Freshman he's going to be a Starred. Oregon but, again
so here's what we know about the. Playoff James madison
automatic qualifier blown, out two lane automatic. Qualifier, right they
get that bid blown Out Texas tech weakest schedule of
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the final, eight blown, out not. Competitive you would hope
this would be instructive going forward for the. Committee let's
stop this nonsense that everybody let's be. Fair it's always
one of my knocks on the college football, media AND
i understand newspaper guys tend to kind of lean left
and inclusive and, everybody it's. Football football is not. Inclusive
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it's for, big, strong a lot of violent, guys, size, force,
speed raw talent. Wins you Watched Texas tech, offensively how
many guys could start For oregon now that now they
Had bailey The, russians a stud who have a former.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Standard their defense was like AN sec paid for.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Defense, yeah, yeah they're, upfront they're they're the real. Deal but,
offensively that's a that's just an average at best college football.
Program and so what we saw today Is, oregon who's
been recruiting five star guys for a long, time buying
them and recruiting them out Of southern col not just
buying them they but they've crystal ball Recruited Dan lanning
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can recruit even the coaches that haven't been great there could.
Recruit oregon's had a pipeline At Southern california recruiting for twenty,
years and over the last ten to twelve they BEAT
usc on, guys and now they've got A Richard booster THAN.
Usc So oregon's had the Elite West coast talent for
a long. Time BUT i think my takeaway on this
Is Dante moore. Again compare them To mendoza. Today it's
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a different. Class it's not the same Guy. Dante in my,
Opinion dante's going to be twenty one next year in.
College he should come.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Back i'm in. AGREEMENT i MEAN i listen financially, historically it's, like,
yeah if you could be a top five, pick he
makes so much money in this day and, age he's
gonna get a raise if he. RETURNS i mean you
could be talking about like an eight million dollar. QUARTERBACK
i see a guy that's still listen to a lot
of people in THE nfl are in, agreement like kind
of rooting for him to go. Back. YES i text
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a couple of people, today you, know the buzz yep
some you. KNOW i think within going into this, month
people thought that he was leaning coming. Out you watch
today like there's a lot to improve On the other
thing just from like a tangible aspect to his. Game
he's not a great. Athlete you, know you watch him move.
AROUND i know this ain't Like Caleb. Williams you, know
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this Wasn't mendoza run around. Today so he's he's a
more much more of a pocket quarterback than EVEN i.
Realized and, listen they had what they say on the,
broadcast they had twenty four touchdowns by true freshman this.
YEAR i mean they were the youngest team in the.
Country they. ARE i, mean they got a chance to
be way better next, year which is crazy to say
given they're headed to The final four and they just
made the playoffs last. YEAR i, mean this thing is.
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Rolling i'm rooting for him to come back BECAUSE i
think it's fun to watch these teams kind of maintain
like Watching indiana for a couple of. Years BUT i
think people are kind of. Torn if he has more
games like, THIS i think he could easily justify coming.
Back the other thing is, like do you want to
go to The? Jets do you want to go to The?
Jets and let's say you've made the last couple years
ten million dollars in Organ, okay so you'll make sign
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the contract for thirty five million. Dollars if it goes really,
poorly you're not going to make any more. Money, really
if it goes well and you're. Prepared this is his
first year. STARTING i know he started a little bit For,
chip but people don't it was a. Disaster remember as
like a true. FRESHMAN i think he goes back hones
his craft. Improves like some of these, guys he's much
more ready to make the move next year because he's
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got to go to a bad team no matter, what
and then he can have a long career being a
multi contract. Guy but the guy saw to day it's,
fine like he's an exciting young, prospect but you know
he's Like i'm rooting for him to return and financially
now it's like they'll pay him a lot of money to.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Say Ohio state gets thumped By miami twenty four to.
Fourteen you, know it's, interesting So Ohio state scored fourteen
points Against, texas ten Against, indiana and fourteen Against. Miami
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now some of it is they Lost judkins And Travon,
henderson two great running. Backs you have to go back
To Sony michelle And Nick chubb At georgia where you're
out a college team with two big time. BACKS i
think their offensive line in a couple of spots is
not very. GOOD i Think Julian saying is a. KID
i mean he's a. KID i mean he needs two
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more years in college and he's not hyper. Athletic he's
a sit in the pocket and throw. Guy they have
very good wide. Receivers everybody knows. That BUT i would
say one of the THINGS i like about this, tournament
And i'm gonna pat myself in the back when The
College Football playoff came, UP i, said this is going
to be better for college. Football do you Want, Bama,
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Georgia clemson in three of the next four national Champions
in college? Football until the last two, years you kind
of knew In october who the best two teams. WERE i,
Mean Ohio state lost To michigan last year as a
twenty point, favorite reeled off multiple wins wins THE. Naty
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you didn't know until The National championship was. Over oh my,
God Ohio state's the best team in the country right now?
Today is It, miami is It? Indiana is It? Georgia
we know it's Not. Bama that's THE, Nfl, john you
don't know AND i don't know who the best team
in THE nfl is until usually late third Quarter Super,
bowl and you're, like, okay all, right that's. Why same
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with The World. Series we didn't know Until game, seven
final out The dodgers were better than The Blue. Jays
and so you, KNOW i have no problem SAYING i kept, saying,
folks what are you holding on? To the sport's. Broken
the ratings were, down the attendance was. Down, well now
the attendant is, up the ratings are. Up this is
why it's great because college football never allowed you to.
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Grow if you had an awful loss In, october Like
miami loses To, louisville it was. Over, john you wreck your.
Season you're A fiesta bole Tops And i'm Watching miami
Wreck Ohio. State and my takeaway today Is miami's gonna
Face indiana in The National. Championship they even more Than.
Indiana they almost Intimidated Ohio state's offensive.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Line, well let's use YOUR nfl. Example take The. Rams
if they played The eagles in the first, round not
crazy they. Lose also not crazy IF i told you
in three weeks they're in The Super bowl and that
is what THE nfl brings to the, table which college
football never. Did to. Me the thing that stood, OUT
i mean the difference in the game were the two
tackles for Ohiose state want skates all that, long and
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that was the difference in the. Game And mario is
a good example of you, know a guy who's viewed
a little bit like a meathead by the media and
people just around college, football but there is no disputing
his understanding of talent and building a. Team like obviously
where we sit, Today Dan lanning And Lincoln, RILEY i
think they were hired the same. Cycle it's not even, close,
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right but at the time they were, Hired Dan lanning's
job At oregon was came. Equipped why Because mario was
A i, MEAN i think he's known as one, of
if not the best recruiters in the. Country. Yeah and
the team that he, built and he's a former ligneman
on the, trenches they, dominate AND i give him. Credit
Like Carson beck was good last. NIGHT i think he
was fifty percent on third. Down he made some huge
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plays with his. Legs, yep you watch saying And Ty
simpson they kind of look frazzled he's very under, control very.
POISED i don't Know ben there before right With, georgia
his record against the top, Teams Mario christobal built a
team to make a run in the. Playoff Ohio, state
in theory. Does but when you have bad, tackles you
got to play some of these Teams, indiana same. Thing
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where could they take advantage of a line of? Scrimmage
and it's harder now because you can't. STACK i bet
historically it's Like Orlando pace and the backup Was Orlando
pace two point. Zero, well those days are. Done it's
harder to keep those, guys and so if you get
an injury we saw last, year it's harder to piece mail,
it even for the. Elites and there's, LIKE i don't
put that loss as. Much On Ryan, DAY i was
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like bad play calling because there's nothing you can do
when you find yourself in a situation where they HAVE
nfl high end pass rushers and your tackles are just
completely you can't call. Place, Meanwhile, mario did you see
the size of his two. Tackles they both look Like Trent.
Williams they are. MASSIVE i HAD nfl scouting directors texting,
me did you see the right, tackle shove that. Guy i'm,
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like that guy has away three hundred and fifty. Pounds
and what Did mario talked about it after the. Game
he talked about it Was saban this, morning the, mass the,
size the, toughness and he kept using this term. Violence.
Violence mario's kind of like from the hardball mold and
it's not as pretty and he's lost some weird games
blowing it. Late but in terms of the teams he,
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built LIKE i would say even last year they were
excellent on, offense their defense was. Terrible, well now their,
offense you, know is getting, better and their defense is
it doesn't get any. Better LIKE i would, Say indiana
and them feel like near the, top But miami's got
a few more juice with some high END nfl. Guys,
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Now indiana's well coach and they're, tough but there's a, like,
Yeah miami's well coached and tough, too but they got
a guy that's gonna go in the top six rushing the.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
PASSER i had a pretty good source inside The MIAMI
i will just SAY i have a really good source
inside Of, miami and their takeaway was going into the,
game they felt they were going to Bully Ohio. State
and they also Felt indiana was the best coach team
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they've seen this. Year so The miami people like they
have respect for, everybody, right but they're, like they know
how Well indiana's. Coached they they Thought indiana was going
to Thump, alabama And miami felt that game was exactly
What miami thought they were going to. Do they didn't
Think Ohio state was going to be able to move the,
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Ball So miami's got great confidence on what they. Do
that game turned out Like miami people thought it was
going to turn.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Out they sat last night That Ohio state hadn't been
down fourteen points in like three. Years most of their
games Playing iowa's and The. Rutgers, yeah they don't play
With oregon every. Year they bully a lot of.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
People, Listen Chip kelly, Left Brian hartline got that. Job.
Left in the last couple of, Games Ryan day has
done the play calling and they've scored ten and fourteen points.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
And physically shoved around and physically shoved around.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
And those two. Games that's not a knock On Ryan.
Day but when you don't call plays all year and
then you're given play calling as a head. Coach it's just.
Different you're asked to do a different. Responsibility and so
the two games in Which Ryan day took over the
play calling all that talent twenty four points. Total by the.
Way the edit THING i love about college football now
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that was never the case is you have to watch
all the. Games AND i was kind of one of
those guys that thought Maybe Notre dame should get in Over,
miami even Though miami had beaten. HIM i was like
on the fence on. IT i think had to head.
Matters it can't be the only. Thing and THEN i
WATCHED i Watched John miami Thump pittsburgh thirty eight to,
seven dominate time of, possession AND i sat there AND
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i wanted to watch that, game AND i, thought, shit
Warm weather Team, Pittsburgh pittsburgh's. Decent and THEN i started
going and looking at The Notre Dame miami head the
heads And i'm, like, No miami's a better. Team they
beat him head to head when you look at similar.
Opponents and then but the truth was you have to
watch all the, games and so college, football you didn't
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have to watch them. All If alabama BEAT lsu And
georgia and you're you, know or it felt like before
the playoff you kind of had a sense of who
was the best. Team you kind of knew it was baked.
In unless they were knocked, off, right and even if
they lost close, late you're, like, Well, OBAMA, Lsu, Clemson
they're still the. Team this new college football is a
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little like THE. Nfl you have to watch all the.
GAMES i, mean four weeks ago we both thought The
rams were easily the most complete team in the. LEAGUE i,
mean they're only a touchdown favor over the Awful Arizona Cardinals, Sunday,
LIKE i don't even know if they're the first or
second best team in their. Divis they could be the
(29:44):
third best team in their. Division Miami week seven Against miami,
today This miami team would have beaten this That miami
team by three. Touchdowns you got to watch the games.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
NOW i think two things can be. True one In
miami Played Notre dame and beat, Them, right they played
a game and they beat. Them alabama had to get
in because as we sit right, now in these conference
championships still exist in the manner in which they. Do
you could knock a team for going because next year
teams would bow out if they were in a, situation,
(30:16):
Right but if we're if you AND i were sitting
here ranking the, teams because it turns Out oklahoma the,
QUARTERBACK i don't know what happened to, him but he
fell off a. Cliff they're not very. GOOD i mean
their defense is, good but their, OFFENSES i mean pretty low. Level,
right if you were Ranking Miami Notre dame In, Alabama
alabama would be third because you would say the one
Thing Notre dame brings that is translating to this, tournament
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WHICH i say all the. TIME i bet that if
we went and talked To Carson palmer in Southern, california
you gotta be good on. Defense, obviously you've got to
score points high high, level high, school high level, college
high level Prof if you aren't a physical team on
the line of, scrimmage you're. Not alabama can't run the.
Ball i'm A Kaylin duboor, guy BUT i can't Imagine
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Nick saban looking, Going, guys what's going? On we can't
just this pass happy. Offense it's just not gonna work
out in this. Conference and when you play the other
best teams in the country from whatever, conference they're gonna
HAVE nfl guys on both lines of, scrimmage and you
can't be a finesse. Team look At, OREGON i would,
Say oregon has really turned into a PHYSICAL i mean
(31:17):
that's The Dan lanning mindset that he's brought From saban
And Kirby. Smart it's gonna translate as they keep getting
high end.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Players, yeah, god this is a being. Down she's thirty
eight to three Now.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Alabama you know what's funny is my. WIFE i walked
in as they were doing like the pregame. WARMUPS i
went on a coffee, run and she's, like it's really,
cool you, know root for this little. Underdog i'm, like,
well historically they, are but they're a touchdown plus favored
in this. Game you, know you know this is a.
Team i'm pretty sure they, SAY i don't think they'd
ever been to The Rose, bowl, Right AND i, mean,
(31:52):
Shit bama now has been to two of the last.
Three now it's a little different with the, playoffs but
you just see this little. Brand it doesn't happen very
often in college sports that because you, Know oregon slowly
moved up right in the late. Nineties in the early two,
Thousands indiana went from like zero to one hundred overnight
to all of a sudden BE i mean for the
last two. YEARS i, mean you could argue they're like
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one of the premier, programs and this, year if they
want it, all you could argue they have the best
two year run of any team in the, country right
there with The Oho.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
State SO i Like indiana when they Play. OREGON i like.
THAT i Like indiana by they already beat him. ONCE
i Think indiana may be better. Today SO i Take
indiana again to Beat oregon ten points. ISH i Think.
Miami we'll see How georgia plays Against Ole miss. TONIGHT
i Think georgia is gonna thump him thirty. TWENTY i
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think they're gonna beat. HIM i think that's.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
A great final.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Four it's a great final. FOUR i would Take miami
to Beat georgia the way they're. PLAYING i want to
address to The Lincoln riley. Thing so you, know you
just said two things can be. True you AND i
think would both. Agree Lincoln roley is a really smart,
guy very good offensive. Coach next year he'll have his
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best offensive. Line they've run the ball since he got.
There they ran the ball At. Oklahoma he's a great.
Judge Jayden mayava A unlv didn't look anything close to
this when he came TO. Usc he develops. Quarterbacks but
what he doesn't do AND i think next year he
should be on the hot seat what he doesn't. Do
they had sixteen mistackles AGAINST. Tcu he has yet to
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develop a defense At oklahoma or AT. Usc and The Deanton,
lynn the coordinator going To Penn, state was supposed to
coach in The Alamo. BOWL i mean he addressed the
media the day before and then something weird. HAPPENED i don't.
KNOW i don't have it. SOURCED i tried to find out.
TODAY i don't. Know and then he just he didn't coach.
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It but my take is a lot of people will say, this,
well he's got kind of the same record Of Clay. Hilton,
Well Clay hilton took Over sark's. Roster sark could. Recruit
there was a lot OF nfl guys on that. Roster
there was a lot of four Star Southern california. Kids
riley Inherited Clay helton's, roster which basically had forty decent,
players very few, great forty. Decent SO i do think
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it was different AND i do THINK usc feels offensively
at least really well, coached especially when you watch the home.
Games BUT i do think next year should be the
year they had a number one recruiting. Class they have
good they're, capitalized there's a lot of money in the.
Program they're spending it an nil and five years in
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or four years. In and if you look At Oklahoma
john he has yet to build a really physically imposing.
Defense signette's done, It Ohio state's got, It miami's got.
It all these Coat Dan, lanning all these coaches have.
Done Texas tech's not a great. Program they had a great.
Defense alabama. Didn't but maybe that's Just indiana Routing. Alabama
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but my takeaway Is lincoln is one of. Those maybe
that's kind of this new kind Of Lane. Kiffen we
know he's exceptional on one side of the. Ball lane
doesn't have a history of building a bunch of great defenses.
Either AND i don't know if it's in the. PRACTICE
i don't know if that's where it. Unravels BUT i
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think next year is the year that if they don't
become a playoff, TEAM i think it's incredibly reasonable to
just say it didn't work. Out it was, fun it
was better than previous, coaches but considering the, resources it
just didn't work.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
OUT i think there are a lot of variables. HERE
i do think The Notre dame, thing AND i heard
you And peyton talking about, it and obviously there's a
lot of. Conversation a lot OF usc people are not,
happy you, know the tradition going, away which is very.
Understandable there is a. Windings there is a, whiningess it
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feels like to his side a little. Bit and, yeah college,
coaches wouldn't you, say basketball and, football whether you're winning or,
losing they're always a little. Whiny but when you, win
no one. Cares AND i think once you, START i,
mean they went nine and. Four and LIKE i said
About Dan, Lanning, Okay dan got a much easier. Runway
well we're not in year two. Anymore we're in your.
Four why does his team stocked With california, kids especially
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from Southern, california and you'res still struggling physically to sustain
even IF i Throw signetti, Out he's a historic, outlier,
right how doubt these other? Guys is It mario in year?
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Four?
Speaker 2 (36:24):
RIGHT i mean because he left When Dan lanning took.
Over look what he's doing In miami and your team
is not even remotely competitive. ENOUGH i think THIS i
was texting with, you you, know The lyn. Situation him
go Into Penn state. Again they're. Financial is he PLAYING
usc trying to quadruple his salary or? WHATEVER i kind
of get. It but he's also going to a team
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that's it's weird to Say Penn state's, rival but technically they.
Are now you're gonna play them most year if they
play him next. Year so they're just stealing your defensive
coordinator who you stole FROM, usc who was a huge
upgrade for you based on your history as.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
A defensive CORPS.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
U so who are you going to high as being
your new defensive. COORDINATOR i think we both. Agree if
he gets it, wrong it could derail his career AT.
Usc and, TWO i know everyone talks about the, class
right the number one. Class someone forwarded me an. Article
Because california rules a little different in a lot of,
states they can pay these kids in high. School you,
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Know california wants that revenue to, Start they start taxing
that money when it exchanged. Hands so these kids are
getting bought in high school where an other they have
to wait till they get on. Campus unique. Rule so
it's not like these kids are signing up because they
believe in the vision Like georgia Or. Texas they're getting paid.
Early so but also they're. Eighteen you know what Has
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Rick patino been? Saying the high school kid and at
this parallels college or football as, well and not just.
Basketball how many kids are really from that? Class Not
they're not all going to show up and Be Reggie.
Bush so the transfer portal is actually much more impactful
for next year than the.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Class, Right, YEAH i MEAN i know the high school.
Class there's four guys in that. Class there's a wide,
receiver there's a tight. End market is.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
There a pass rusher that's supposed to be like A
bosa bro.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Something, yeah they've got a pass rusher From New. Jersey
they have a wide, receiver they have a tight. End
those three, guys and they have one defensive tackle that'll
be a rotational defensial. Tackle they'll have three guys out
of that class that will absolutely make an. Impact, okay
there's a twenty.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Two there're twenty two guys on a field and you're
rotating thirty plus. Players you know it's. Not and let's
say their. Impact let's say one of them rolls an
ankle and you're assuming the best, case, right you just
you never.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Know, Yes, now look at their.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Schedule they Play Ohio, state they Play, oregon they Play Penn, STATE.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
I, mean they Play, washington they Play, yeah they're At
Penn state At. Indiana do you think the play offs next, Year,
WELL i think it's. THERE i will say. This they
bring the quarterback back and he will be in a
short list of the best quarterbacks in the, country so that.
Helps he'll be one of the top, seven eight nine
quarterbacks in the. Country And Lincoln riley's really good with.
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Quarterbacks they're going to have to rely on a freshman
tight end and two freshman. Receivers the old line will
be good and they will be big. Defensively but we
know this team doesn't travel. Well That Penn state game
ends up being Late, october they're not going to win that.
Game they just don't win that. Game they couldn't win. It.
Illinois it is a program AND i think this is
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completely fair that has not shown the ability to win
when they're uncomfortable being on the, road the weather's less than.
Ideal they don't get a call here or. There they
haven't shown the ability to do, that and SO i
JUST i look at. THIS i GUESS i Think lincoln dirty.
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SMART i think he's a great offensive. Coach but now
you're gonna be in your. Five there's no more. Excuses
this team Isn't they don't, tackle they're not, physical they
don't play unless it's ideal. CONDITIONS i, mean they're actually at,
home really really. Tough, sorry you can't play all your games, home.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
And next year to of the home games Are. Oregon Ohiose.
STATE i mean they're gonna be underdogs about those, GAMES
i would, Assume, SO i, mean it's not weird at
all if they lose. THEM i do think his comments
THAT i saw after The bowl game basically like headed
into your, five now we're. READY i think that rubbed
a lot of people the wrong. Way AND i get
they've invested more money over the last you know. Year
the other thing, is you, KNOW i Think i've talked
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to SOME nfl. People he's not the biggest personality. Guy
and when you look at a lot of these coaches
historically in college, football you go back to the, seventies
let alone out kind of got some big. Personalities now
with the money and GM's now run a lot of the,
recruiting your coaches don't need to. Recruit it's changed a little,
bit BUT i still think it. MATTERS i, mean you
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look At Dan, lanning WHO i say has elevated immediately
to one of the best and most respected coaches in the.
COUNTRY a lot of juice behind that, guy and you're telling,
me you, know at the end of the, day you
don't quite have to recruit the same way because Money trump's.
Off but if we're offering the Same kirby's got. Personality you,
Know Dan lanning SAW i Hes lane could be a
little bit of a weird, cat but he's very energetic
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and into this stuff and.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Learned mario Crystal, ball big.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Guy he lives. For mario Crystal ball is like the
more buttoned up At. Oseron you Know Ed edward was
one of the great recruiters in the history of college.
Football mario feels a little more, focused more of a family,
guy a little more dialed in from What i've, heard.
Workaholic AND i don't, know, MAN i THINK usc BECAUSE
i think there's so much hype behind this, class WHICH
i think would have mattered ten twenty years. Ago pete
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had him. FOREVER i think they're a little less relevant
now because all of a, sudden you win nine to
eight games, again those kids could, leave you, know so
it's like you're not even guaranteed to have him for
three years. ANYMORE i think this transfer, portal which opens,
tomorrow has clearly proven to be much more. IMPACT i,
mean look At Fernando. MENDEUX i mean on a year
to year, basis the transfer portal kind of has changed
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the playoffs for college. FOOTBALL i would, say, YEAH i,
LISTEN i just AND us is probably gonna do. Well they.
SHOULD i, mean they should have a lot of money
to buy some of these, guys but they better get
the whatever Whoever Texas tech's on for the defensive, LINE
i would just call those. Guys you, know it used
to be like the Moment alabama, offered you, know a
kid could be have no you, know a couple of
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low school. Offers saban would give an offer Every sea
school would. OFFER i THINK i Think lincoln needs to
draft a little bit more off Like oregon And texas
when it.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Comes To David bailey was From, STANFORD usc passed on.
Him he goes To Texas. Tech you can't block. Him
so there you. Go i'll tell. You i'll say it.
AGAIN i know this is, obnoxious but when The College
Football playoff expanded in college foot well me and all these,
CHANGES i, said, folks it's going to be way. Better
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it's going to feel like THE, nfl THE, nil the transfer.
Portal we have a chance to Have Indiana miami AN acc,
team a basketball school in The National. CHAMPIONSHIP i. Listen
i'll Like oregon in, forever AND i do think it.
Helps they Played, indiana so they at least they've seen.
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THEM i think it'll be a really good football, game
a really FUN i think it'll be that'll be a
really fun football game to. Watch But I'm i'm watching
these games AND i just love Got it's thirty eight to.
Three Now, INDIANA i take.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
ONE i think one big. CHALLENGE i was texting someone.
THIS i think the transfer portal opens, tomorrow right On. Friday, yeah, yeah.
Yeah both his, Coordinators tosh And, stein are head coaches
in other. Places. Yes, again so we don't have a
two week break. ANYMORE i think these games next week
are Like thursday And. Friday there's a normal. Week now
for these, teams those, GUYS i mean they're gonna work.
(43:44):
CRAZY i, mean did you read the article About lane
staff going back and. Forth they're working like thirty hour.
DAYS i think they're gonna be at a little disadvantage
Where indiana's. COORDINATORS i don't know why no one ever
Interviews indiana's, coordinators but The shanahan and the defensive coordinators
feel like some of the best coordinators in the. Country
they're just staying In. Indiana So tosh and definitely the
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dude At Kentucky. Stein i'm sure they are going to
be a heavy transfer portal. Teams their brains are gonna
be on a swivel just trying to do a game plan,
slash trying to work their staff from far. Away pretty big.
DISADVANTAGE i. Know landing was big On my guys are. Good, well,
yeah it's a lot easier when you got two and
a half. Weeks it becomes a little tougher with six
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or seven days to, manage both for first time head.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Coaches all, right let's go Watch Georgia Ole miss.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
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going to do some college football stuff tonight. Everything from
Ohio State losing, Lincoln Riley's current situation at USC, the
Oregon win, the Indiana route of Alabama. There's a lot
to talk about. Let's start with Indiana. It's you know,
there's two I had two strong feelings going into today.
(01:53):
I didn't have a strong feeling on Oregon Texas Tech.
I thought it would be ugly and low scoring, and
it was for Texas Tech. I thought nine and a
half to Miami was the side, and I thought Indiana
was going to blow out Alabama. I've watched Alabama play.
This is probably the sixth time I've yet to watch
him play a complete game, even the games in which
I love their game plan. John, they can't run the
football and ty Simpson to me, if you pressure him.
(02:16):
I just thought Indiana was going to get a big,
relentless pass rush and I was going to have I
think Mendoz is great. I think he's really good college quarterback.
Are you shocked Indiana we're doing this now? When they
lead twenty four to nothing, it's not competitive. Are you
shocked by the ease of it?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Well, I'm not once you watch it, but going into it,
you have these long breaks between This isn't the NFL,
right where you play every week, so you kind of
forget and then I go, oh, yeah, they were the
team that just beat Ohio State and have as good
of a defense. They hit Colin like they're the University
of Miami and the brand. Let's face it, Once you
don't watch them for a couple of weeks, it kind
(02:55):
of seeps back in and then you realize, no, this
is the best coach team in the country. Right, Sure,
we'll get into USC They would die to have a
coach this physical. I mean, one thing you watch Signetti,
he runs an NFL operation. They bring an offensive lineman
in the backfield. They have a physical presence in their
run game. They run. You know, Fernando Mendoza is an
(03:15):
extremely talented player, but he excels because they have a
great defense, a great running game, of physical you know,
just operation, and then he dominates within that. And to me,
they're coordinators and their head coaches mentality. You might as
well just take Indiana away and throw a blue blood
brand on it for those of us that have been
watching college football forever because we're thrown off by Indiana.
(03:38):
But they're as good as any team we've seen the
last several years. They just have a different brand.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah, And I think if you watch their tackling, they're
the best tackling team I've seen in college football. I mean,
I keep thinking over the last twenty four hours, Miami
and Indiana are the two most physically capable teams in
the country. I think Georgia is good, but I've seen
Georgia's druggle offensively for long stretches. Indiana runs the ball
on everybody in Indiana. There they're receivers. I don't know
(04:08):
how great they are. They make tough catches. I mean
they just that team catches the ball. They tackle exceedingly well.
They've run on everybody to some degree. And you know,
I was sitting there. I was I was talking to
an NFL GM today about Kurt Signetti and he knew him,
and he said, you know, his dad is coaching. He said,
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what he basically's done. He's the opposite Elaine Kiffin, where
you know he had, you know, a dad that coached.
But he wasn't this like high flying hot candidate. He
just did everything. He's run recruiting. He's a CEO that's
been in every department of the company until he gets
the company. And he's so well versed in recruiting and
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O line play and like, I mean, just everything. They're
so buttoned up. I told a buddy today, they will
remind me you would remember this kind of the Don
James Huskies when Washington was a national power. They had
very good talent, not always the best, but very good talent,
and NFL quarterback. But they always won special teams. They
were great tackling, they ran on everybody, and they'd hit
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on an occasional big plays and it didn't matter who
they were playing. They it could be usc but you
always felt you had the best coach. And when I
watched Signettes's team, I'm like, it's like Saban without the yelling,
without the volume. Like he just sits on that sideline.
He's almost a mad scientist. He's always got a scowl.
I'm just I think Signettes's teams are so tight and
so smart. John. When Alabama tried that fake punt early
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in the game and they were gonna punt, did they
moved Tys Simpson up to the line and who's your
players were all like it was almost they were so
prepared for it. And then they didn't bite on like
three fakes and I was like, Okay, a lot of
college teams would bite on this. This team is coached
almost professionally at Indiana.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
To me, two things always stand out for physical football teams,
because you know, any team with good defensive lineman can
look like a physical team. Do your defensive backs hit
their's due and run? And can you run the ball
in any situation they can. And obviously their quarterback factors
into the run game as well because he can take
off at any moment. But they had the offensive lineman
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in the Big ten of the year. You know, when
you think who is the best offensive lineman in the
Big ten, what do you think? Iowa, Michigan. You know,
historically Pete's teams would have had a bunch of them
back in the day, right, Oregon's had a ton of
offensive linemen. No, it's the Indiana left tackle. And you
know what's funny. As I start texting around him because
this guy a blue chip, you know, high round pick,
They're like, well, we don't know if he's gonna come out,
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but he's probably gonna be a guard. So it's not
like he's doing this with a guy that's gonna go number.
You know, it's this isn't Joe Alt playing left tackle,
So there is Listen. I worked for Pat Hill, who
used to employ Kurtzignetti's brother Frank, and my cousin was
on those teams in the mid two thousand. He's like,
you know what's funny is here in Kurt talk. Frank
was a lot. They have a little arrogance about him.
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Theyve been around football their entire life, right, and like
you said, this guy wasn't handed, Like even when he
got to work for Nick Saban, he had already kind
of worked his way up. I saw Philip Rivers. Did
you see the clip? He was Philip Rivers quarterback coach
and offensive coordinator. And Philip was talking about twenty years ago,
that was before Nick Saban. But then he took you know,
Nick Saban said, you know, I remember on game day
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earlier this year, he said, I used to present my
coaches sometimes, you know these jobs. Hey, Jimmy came to
me so and so jobs open, and everyone in the
room would laugh, you know, like I up. I and
the one guy that used to always rate Kurtz Signetti
was always interested in, like I'm ready. I want to
because I want to be a head coach. And you
and I talk a lot about this with the coordinators
thing in the NFL. You know, Fangio Flora is about
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to get a These coordinators are now making five six
million dollars. Like you can be a coordinator for a
long time and make millions of dollars, you know in
college historically, like sometimes if you weren't getting a call.
You might have to take a lower to your job
and it could shoot you right up. And it took
him a long time. Like when he said google me,
everyone laughed rightfully so because it was funny. But when
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you did google him, it's got a little Klin duboor like.
All he did was win at a lower level that
usually translates.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
So Mendoz is so interesting to me against the Blitz today.
At the time we're doing this, he was six for six.
And the two things that jumped out about this game.
Coming into this game, every team with a buy was
zero and six. And what you had noticed and you
saw this with Ohio State, they weren't physically ready. They
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got pushed around for the verse quarter because when you have,
you know, two three weeks off, you don't tackle a lot.
And you watch the first two series Indiana Alabama, Indiana
was tackling Indiana. You could tell Kurt Signetti their time off,
they hit, they did hitting. And that's what's really the
difference is you just don't tackle much when you have
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time off. You're given nineteen twenty year old kids three
four weeks off. They may you know, they may be
undisciplined right there with their buddies. They're hanging out. They're
not hitting as much in practice. So that's the first thing.
The second thing with Mendoza, I know he doesn't. He
reminds me a lot of Andrew Luck. Now Luck I
think was a better scrambler, but Mendoza. And I'm watching
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this here live. Mendoza on two or three times today,
decided I'm going to run John. He's big, he is
a bit And when you're six' five and you run
and you just lean, forward you see this With Josh
allen Or Banner Cam, newton it's an extra three. Yards
these guys are. Big mendoza has a way of. Running
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he doesn't blow you, away but he leans into it
and all of a sudden you look up and you're, like,
oh he got seven yards. Running and the other thing
that jumps out to me about him he doesn't miss
on the bubble, screens on the stuff out of the
flat like it's a little the opposite Of Kayleb. Williams
we love the high. Side you don't know about the.
Layups this kid gives. Me he's Like. Herbert he doesn't
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miss the layup all the stuff underneath the drag, routes the,
flats you, know all your bubble. Stuff he's one hundred
for one. Hundred he just hits on all of that.
STUFF i don't. KNOW i know a lot of people
say they have questions about, him but sixty eight percent
career completion, percentage he's unbelievable against The. Blitz that's a
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Little Drake. May by the, Way Drake may's very good
against The, blitz which usually year two in THE. Nfl you're,
NOT i. DON'T i can't believe he would not be
the number one.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Pick, YEAH i, MEAN i haven't talked to anyone with questions.
ANYMORE i, MEAN i think he cemented as the number one.
GUY i think after. Today, Again i'm not trying to
overreact to one, game BUT i think most people are
kind of universally rooting For Dante moore to go back to. School,
yeah he doesn't have to go to The, jets because
at the end of the, day when you're coming out
as a, quarterback these guys are making millions of dollars
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in college and you get you get a raise when
you're a top, pick but ultimately you're trying to play
in THE. Nfl for a decade plus and make hundreds
of millions of. Dollars and we now have a couple
of recent examples trailer As Anthony richardson And Dante moore
is better than those, guys but like their career is
done ever making money like that that rookie. Contract so
you See Fernando, Mendoza like you, know this game against
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The raiders and The, CHIEFS i mean The chiefs right
now have the ninth. Pick they are incentivized to lose
because depending on how it shakes, out they could be
as high as. Eight well it's not just drafting. Eight,
well they only would have to give a second round
pick maybe to move up three or four slots to
get the best defensive player on the. Board it's a
or they go, Back like that's a prime. POSITION i
mean The chiefs have been drafted thirty. Two So Adie
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reid is incentivized to lose this game against The. Raiders
now potentially if The giants lose The, COWBOYS i think
The raiders can still keep it win or lose the.
Game but like that's a, guy and then obviously the,
character how smart the kid. IS i, mean he's just
a high level. Guy when they told the story about
him getting all the guys in the, heisman everyone who
was gonna tend their background. Information do you know what
that sounded like a guy that if he didn't play
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football and had gone To, Calor, indiana would be running
taking over For Jamie diamond in like fifteen twenty years
and would be one of those he would. Be he
would crush it in. Life he just happens to be
six or five, athletic big arm likes. Football that same
thing With Andrew. Luck Andrew luck could have easily just
never played. Football ran an architecture, firm not Not Rand stanford,
football but Ran stafford the. University and that's what to.
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Me and people like he's kind of, goofy he who
kind of likes goofy. Coaches they don't want to have
to worry about, you you. Know you know The cousins. Thing,
look the knock On cousins was he was wasn't that
he was like goofy and. Religious it was he wasn't
good enough that that was enough that people love the
guy from the. Jump it was he wasn't talented. Enough
that's not the case. Here he's playing WITH nfl wide receivers.
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Too the serat kid definitely IS i Mean, becker the
little white guys picking plays left and. Right that goes,
okay Because indiana looks like AN nfl. Team they like
to run the, ball they have a couple of wide,
receivers they RUN nfl schemes with. Signetti, yeah it immediately
translates to. Me the question is, like If i'm, him,
hey spy Tech Tom, brady can we clean up the
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organization a little bit. BEFORE i just signed up to
come here Because i'm not signing up for everything that's
going on there right.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Now. YEAH i talked to AN nfl head coach three
weeks ago and he told me That mendoza is one
of the easiest quarterbacks to profile going into a draft
Because indiana runs so MUCH nfl. Stuff he, goes it's so,
easy he, goes you can watch twenty five thirty five
plays Of indiana and you know what throws he can
make and what what he can and can't. Do he,
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goes he's going to BE i.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Mean he made every throw today that you would see
on AN nfl Game saturday or.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Someday and by the, way everybody Loves Ty. SIMPSON i
talked to a general manager two weeks. AGO i, SAID
i don't get. IT i think he's just a, guy
and and THE gm, said he is just a. Guy
bama's got, great great wide. Receivers caylin De boor is
an excellent offensive. Coach he couldn't do anything. Today and
when you juxtapose him With, mendoza it's a different looking. Player,
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now not, CLOSE i.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Would, SAY i would put saying there. TOO i Mean
mendoza looks physically different than. Saying he looks much more
poised under. Pressure that's the other. Thing he moves. Forward
you Watch Ty simpson and saying they kind of go
backwards or. Sideways mendoza's looking to go. Forward and that
is a big. Deal for. SACKS i Mean yesterday's saying
it was sacked like five times for like almost fifty.
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Yards you know that you can't take seven eight yard
sacks in, college let alone in THE. Nfl they're DRIVE
i think ninety five percent of drives end on a
punt when you take a. Sack so when you See,
mendoza like there were plays Where bama was close to,
him he moved, away he moved. Forward isn't he a
good example too of we've seen this now With, burrow
you Know baker years. Ago guys that just stay in
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college get better work on their, craft and now at
the transfer, portal you can really line yourself. Up kind
of a unique. Situation people, go why weren't all these
other teams? Interested his brother was on the, team so
there was obviously a connection with the. Family but he
definitely made the right decision if other people were.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Calling, yeah he played At cal for two, years so
you can't just look at him In indiana and, go,
well he's GOT nfl. Guys cal is you, Know cal
Had Jared, Goff cal Had Aaron. Rodgers these places Like
cal OR Nc state which don't have five star, guys right,
like you have to play with average guys college football.
Players Kurt signetti has done a lot of high end.
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RECRUITING i, mean if you go but he worked With,
saban did a lot of. Recruiting he spotted, him AND
i just he's easy to root. For i've always said
one of the things that turns me off with quarterbacks
is trying to be. Cool The Johnny, manziel The Cam,
newton you know THAT i want to be. Cool baker
had a little bit of, that but not as. Much
baker WAS i think pretty a smart. Kid he just
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he had a chip on his. Shoulder it wasn't a cool.
Thing it was a chip on his shoulder. Thing But
Jay cutler had a little bit of that little loof
a little too cool for. SCHOOL i like dorky. GUYS
i liked Luck tom Brady is first ten years was.
DORKY i mean he was his first ten years.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Mean And Hayden, MANNING i don't think is like mister
cool guy walking into the. Room you, know he's like
a football.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Nerd, YEAH i mean like like Like Kirk, cousins say
what you want that dude's get an. Extend he's still slinging.
It SO i don't. KNOW i JUST i Find mendoza
the remarkable young, man AND i think he's gonna crush
in THE.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Nfl you know all that, Matters, Colin AND i think
you saw this in The Ohio state game when his,
teammates the entire team on that stage gravitated toward. Him you,
know whether you're six foot five or whether you're Like Brock,
purty who's in your corner as a. Quarterback and we
have a long now list of. Guys we've seen a
lot in THE nfl over the last twenty plus years
where it's, LIKE i don't think they like this guy that.
Much and you Watch mendoz in That Ohio state, game
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and those guys gravitated toward. HIM i, went, whoa this
Guy's it's not like he'd been there three, years, right
he'd only been there nine. Months it's, like these guys
love this.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Guy by the. Way now it's thirty one to Three, Indiana.
Okay oregon Beats Texas tech twenty three to. Nothing, Listen
Texas tech had eighty eight yards offense in the first.
Half Dante more was twenty six to thirty, three no,
touchdowns one. Pick it was a really really ugly. GAME
i Think oregon should have blown him out thirty five.
Nothing the totally, dominated but they had. Penalties i'll tell
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you That Finny, kid that That Brandon Finny kidd had
like three, turnovers two, picks three. Picks he had a.
Freshman he's going to be a Starred. Oregon but, again
so here's what we know about the. Playoff James madison
automatic qualifier blown, out two lane automatic. Qualifier, right they
get that bid blown Out Texas tech weakest schedule of
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the final, eight blown, out not. Competitive you would hope
this would be instructive going forward for the. Committee let's
stop this nonsense that everybody let's be. Fair it's always
one of my knocks on the college football, media AND
i understand newspaper guys tend to kind of lean left
and inclusive and, everybody it's. Football football is not. Inclusive
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it's for, big, strong a lot of violent, guys, size, force,
speed raw talent. Wins you Watched Texas tech, offensively how
many guys could start For oregon now that now they
Had bailey The, russians a stud who have a former.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Standard their defense was like AN sec paid for.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Defense, yeah, yeah they're, upfront they're they're the real. Deal but,
offensively that's a that's just an average at best college football.
Program and so what we saw today Is, oregon who's
been recruiting five star guys for a long, time buying
them and recruiting them out Of southern col not just
buying them they but they've crystal ball Recruited Dan lanning
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can recruit even the coaches that haven't been great there could.
Recruit oregon's had a pipeline At Southern california recruiting for twenty,
years and over the last ten to twelve they BEAT
usc on, guys and now they've got A Richard booster THAN.
Usc So oregon's had the Elite West coast talent for
a long. Time BUT i think my takeaway on this
Is Dante moore. Again compare them To mendoza. Today it's
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a different. Class it's not the same Guy. Dante in my,
Opinion dante's going to be twenty one next year in.
College he should come.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Back i'm in. AGREEMENT i MEAN i listen financially, historically it's, like,
yeah if you could be a top five, pick he
makes so much money in this day and, age he's
gonna get a raise if he. RETURNS i mean you
could be talking about like an eight million dollar. QUARTERBACK
i see a guy that's still listen to a lot
of people in THE nfl are in, agreement like kind
of rooting for him to go. Back. YES i text
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a couple of people, today you, know the buzz yep
some you. KNOW i think within going into this, month
people thought that he was leaning coming. Out you watch
today like there's a lot to improve On the other
thing just from like a tangible aspect to his. Game
he's not a great. Athlete you, know you watch him move.
AROUND i know this ain't Like Caleb. Williams you, know
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this Wasn't mendoza run around. Today so he's he's a
more much more of a pocket quarterback than EVEN i.
Realized and, listen they had what they say on the,
broadcast they had twenty four touchdowns by true freshman this.
YEAR i mean they were the youngest team in the.
Country they. ARE i, mean they got a chance to
be way better next, year which is crazy to say
given they're headed to The final four and they just
made the playoffs last. YEAR i, mean this thing is.
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Rolling i'm rooting for him to come back BECAUSE i
think it's fun to watch these teams kind of maintain
like Watching indiana for a couple of. Years BUT i
think people are kind of. Torn if he has more
games like, THIS i think he could easily justify coming.
Back the other thing is, like do you want to
go to The? Jets do you want to go to The?
Jets and let's say you've made the last couple years
ten million dollars in Organ, okay so you'll make sign
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the contract for thirty five million. Dollars if it goes really,
poorly you're not going to make any more. Money, really
if it goes well and you're. Prepared this is his
first year. STARTING i know he started a little bit For,
chip but people don't it was a. Disaster remember as
like a true. FRESHMAN i think he goes back hones
his craft. Improves like some of these, guys he's much
more ready to make the move next year because he's
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got to go to a bad team no matter, what
and then he can have a long career being a
multi contract. Guy but the guy saw to day it's,
fine like he's an exciting young, prospect but you know
he's Like i'm rooting for him to return and financially
now it's like they'll pay him a lot of money to.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Say Ohio state gets thumped By miami twenty four to.
Fourteen you, know it's, interesting So Ohio state scored fourteen
points Against, texas ten Against, indiana and fourteen Against. Miami
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now some of it is they Lost judkins And Travon,
henderson two great running. Backs you have to go back
To Sony michelle And Nick chubb At georgia where you're
out a college team with two big time. BACKS i
think their offensive line in a couple of spots is
not very. GOOD i Think Julian saying is a. KID
i mean he's a. KID i mean he needs two
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more years in college and he's not hyper. Athletic he's
a sit in the pocket and throw. Guy they have
very good wide. Receivers everybody knows. That BUT i would
say one of the THINGS i like about this, tournament
And i'm gonna pat myself in the back when The
College Football playoff came, UP i, said this is going
to be better for college. Football do you Want, Bama,
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Georgia clemson in three of the next four national Champions
in college? Football until the last two, years you kind
of knew In october who the best two teams. WERE i,
Mean Ohio state lost To michigan last year as a
twenty point, favorite reeled off multiple wins wins THE. Naty
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you didn't know until The National championship was. Over oh my,
God Ohio state's the best team in the country right now?
Today is It, miami is It? Indiana is It? Georgia
we know it's Not. Bama that's THE, Nfl, john you
don't know AND i don't know who the best team
in THE nfl is until usually late third Quarter Super,
bowl and you're, like, okay all, right that's. Why same
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with The World. Series we didn't know Until game, seven
final out The dodgers were better than The Blue. Jays
and so you, KNOW i have no problem SAYING i kept, saying,
folks what are you holding on? To the sport's. Broken
the ratings were, down the attendance was. Down, well now
the attendant is, up the ratings are. Up this is
why it's great because college football never allowed you to.
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Grow if you had an awful loss In, october Like
miami loses To, louisville it was. Over, john you wreck your.
Season you're A fiesta bole Tops And i'm Watching miami
Wreck Ohio. State and my takeaway today Is miami's gonna
Face indiana in The National. Championship they even more Than.
Indiana they almost Intimidated Ohio state's offensive.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Line, well let's use YOUR nfl. Example take The. Rams
if they played The eagles in the first, round not
crazy they. Lose also not crazy IF i told you
in three weeks they're in The Super bowl and that
is what THE nfl brings to the, table which college
football never. Did to. Me the thing that stood, OUT
i mean the difference in the game were the two
tackles for Ohiose state want skates all that, long and
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that was the difference in the. Game And mario is
a good example of you, know a guy who's viewed
a little bit like a meathead by the media and
people just around college, football but there is no disputing
his understanding of talent and building a. Team like obviously
where we sit, Today Dan lanning And Lincoln, RILEY i
think they were hired the same. Cycle it's not even, close,
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right but at the time they were, Hired Dan lanning's
job At oregon was came. Equipped why Because mario was
A i, MEAN i think he's known as one, of
if not the best recruiters in the. Country. Yeah and
the team that he, built and he's a former ligneman
on the, trenches they, dominate AND i give him. Credit
Like Carson beck was good last. NIGHT i think he
was fifty percent on third. Down he made some huge
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plays with his. Legs, yep you watch saying And Ty
simpson they kind of look frazzled he's very under, control very.
POISED i don't Know ben there before right With, georgia
his record against the top, Teams Mario christobal built a
team to make a run in the. Playoff Ohio, state
in theory. Does but when you have bad, tackles you
got to play some of these Teams, indiana same. Thing
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where could they take advantage of a line of? Scrimmage
and it's harder now because you can't. STACK i bet
historically it's Like Orlando pace and the backup Was Orlando
pace two point. Zero, well those days are. Done it's
harder to keep those, guys and so if you get
an injury we saw last, year it's harder to piece mail,
it even for the. Elites and there's, LIKE i don't
put that loss as. Much On Ryan, DAY i was
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like bad play calling because there's nothing you can do
when you find yourself in a situation where they HAVE
nfl high end pass rushers and your tackles are just
completely you can't call. Place, Meanwhile, mario did you see
the size of his two. Tackles they both look Like Trent.
Williams they are. MASSIVE i HAD nfl scouting directors texting,
me did you see the right, tackle shove that. Guy i'm,
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like that guy has away three hundred and fifty. Pounds
and what Did mario talked about it after the. Game
he talked about it Was saban this, morning the, mass the,
size the, toughness and he kept using this term. Violence.
Violence mario's kind of like from the hardball mold and
it's not as pretty and he's lost some weird games
blowing it. Late but in terms of the teams he,
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built LIKE i would say even last year they were
excellent on, offense their defense was. Terrible, well now their,
offense you, know is getting, better and their defense is
it doesn't get any. Better LIKE i would, Say indiana
and them feel like near the, top But miami's got
a few more juice with some high END nfl. Guys,
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Now indiana's well coach and they're, tough but there's a, like,
Yeah miami's well coached and tough, too but they got
a guy that's gonna go in the top six rushing the.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
PASSER i had a pretty good source inside The MIAMI
i will just SAY i have a really good source
inside Of, miami and their takeaway was going into the,
game they felt they were going to Bully Ohio. State
and they also Felt indiana was the best coach team
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they've seen this. Year so The miami people like they
have respect for, everybody, right but they're, like they know
how Well indiana's. Coached they they Thought indiana was going
to Thump, alabama And miami felt that game was exactly
What miami thought they were going to. Do they didn't
Think Ohio state was going to be able to move the,
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Ball So miami's got great confidence on what they. Do
that game turned out Like miami people thought it was
going to turn.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Out they sat last night That Ohio state hadn't been
down fourteen points in like three. Years most of their
games Playing iowa's and The. Rutgers, yeah they don't play
With oregon every. Year they bully a lot of.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
People, Listen Chip kelly, Left Brian hartline got that. Job.
Left in the last couple of, Games Ryan day has
done the play calling and they've scored ten and fourteen points.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
And physically shoved around and physically shoved around.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
And those two. Games that's not a knock On Ryan.
Day but when you don't call plays all year and
then you're given play calling as a head. Coach it's just.
Different you're asked to do a different. Responsibility and so
the two games in Which Ryan day took over the
play calling all that talent twenty four points. Total by the.
Way the edit THING i love about college football now
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that was never the case is you have to watch
all the. Games AND i was kind of one of
those guys that thought Maybe Notre dame should get in Over,
miami even Though miami had beaten. HIM i was like
on the fence on. IT i think had to head.
Matters it can't be the only. Thing and THEN i
WATCHED i Watched John miami Thump pittsburgh thirty eight to,
seven dominate time of, possession AND i sat there AND
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i wanted to watch that, game AND i, thought, shit
Warm weather Team, Pittsburgh pittsburgh's. Decent and THEN i started
going and looking at The Notre Dame miami head the
heads And i'm, like, No miami's a better. Team they
beat him head to head when you look at similar.
Opponents and then but the truth was you have to
watch all the, games and so college, football you didn't
(29:02):
have to watch them. All If alabama BEAT lsu And
georgia and you're you, know or it felt like before
the playoff you kind of had a sense of who
was the best. Team you kind of knew it was baked.
In unless they were knocked, off, right and even if
they lost close, late you're, like, Well, OBAMA, Lsu, Clemson
they're still the. Team this new college football is a
(29:24):
little like THE. Nfl you have to watch all the.
GAMES i, mean four weeks ago we both thought The
rams were easily the most complete team in the. LEAGUE i,
mean they're only a touchdown favor over the Awful Arizona Cardinals, Sunday,
LIKE i don't even know if they're the first or
second best team in their. Divis they could be the
(29:44):
third best team in their. Division Miami week seven Against miami,
today This miami team would have beaten this That miami
team by three. Touchdowns you got to watch the games.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
NOW i think two things can be. True one In
miami Played Notre dame and beat, Them, right they played
a game and they beat. Them alabama had to get
in because as we sit right, now in these conference
championships still exist in the manner in which they. Do
you could knock a team for going because next year
teams would bow out if they were in a, situation,
(30:16):
Right but if we're if you AND i were sitting
here ranking the, teams because it turns Out oklahoma the,
QUARTERBACK i don't know what happened to, him but he
fell off a. Cliff they're not very. GOOD i mean
their defense is, good but their, OFFENSES i mean pretty low. Level,
right if you were Ranking Miami Notre dame In, Alabama
alabama would be third because you would say the one
Thing Notre dame brings that is translating to this, tournament
(30:37):
WHICH i say all the. TIME i bet that if
we went and talked To Carson palmer in Southern, california
you gotta be good on. Defense, obviously you've got to
score points high high, level high, school high level, college
high level Prof if you aren't a physical team on
the line of, scrimmage you're. Not alabama can't run the.
Ball i'm A Kaylin duboor, guy BUT i can't Imagine
(30:57):
Nick saban looking, Going, guys what's going? On we can't
just this pass happy. Offense it's just not gonna work
out in this. Conference and when you play the other
best teams in the country from whatever, conference they're gonna
HAVE nfl guys on both lines of, scrimmage and you
can't be a finesse. Team look At, OREGON i would,
Say oregon has really turned into a PHYSICAL i mean
(31:17):
that's The Dan lanning mindset that he's brought From saban
And Kirby. Smart it's gonna translate as they keep getting
high end.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Players, yeah, god this is a being. Down she's thirty
eight to three Now.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Alabama you know what's funny is my. WIFE i walked
in as they were doing like the pregame. WARMUPS i
went on a coffee, run and she's, like it's really,
cool you, know root for this little. Underdog i'm, like,
well historically they, are but they're a touchdown plus favored
in this. Game you, know you know this is a.
Team i'm pretty sure they, SAY i don't think they'd
ever been to The Rose, bowl, Right AND i, mean,
(31:52):
Shit bama now has been to two of the last.
Three now it's a little different with the, playoffs but
you just see this little. Brand it doesn't happen very
often in college sports that because you, Know oregon slowly
moved up right in the late. Nineties in the early two,
Thousands indiana went from like zero to one hundred overnight
to all of a sudden BE i mean for the
last two. YEARS i, mean you could argue they're like
(32:13):
one of the premier, programs and this, year if they
want it, all you could argue they have the best
two year run of any team in the, country right
there with The Oho.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
State SO i Like indiana when they Play. OREGON i like.
THAT i Like indiana by they already beat him. ONCE
i Think indiana may be better. Today SO i Take
indiana again to Beat oregon ten points. ISH i Think.
Miami we'll see How georgia plays Against Ole miss. TONIGHT
i Think georgia is gonna thump him thirty. TWENTY i
(32:40):
think they're gonna beat. HIM i think that's.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
A great final.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Four it's a great final. FOUR i would Take miami
to Beat georgia the way they're. PLAYING i want to
address to The Lincoln riley. Thing so you, know you
just said two things can be. True you AND i
think would both. Agree Lincoln roley is a really smart,
guy very good offensive. Coach next year he'll have his
(33:03):
best offensive. Line they've run the ball since he got.
There they ran the ball At. Oklahoma he's a great.
Judge Jayden mayava A unlv didn't look anything close to
this when he came TO. Usc he develops. Quarterbacks but
what he doesn't do AND i think next year he
should be on the hot seat what he doesn't. Do
they had sixteen mistackles AGAINST. Tcu he has yet to
(33:25):
develop a defense At oklahoma or AT. Usc and The Deanton,
lynn the coordinator going To Penn, state was supposed to
coach in The Alamo. BOWL i mean he addressed the
media the day before and then something weird. HAPPENED i don't.
KNOW i don't have it. SOURCED i tried to find out.
TODAY i don't. Know and then he just he didn't coach.
(33:47):
It but my take is a lot of people will say, this,
well he's got kind of the same record Of Clay. Hilton,
Well Clay hilton took Over sark's. Roster sark could. Recruit
there was a lot OF nfl guys on that. Roster
there was a lot of four Star Southern california. Kids
riley Inherited Clay helton's, roster which basically had forty decent,
players very few, great forty. Decent SO i do think
(34:10):
it was different AND i do THINK usc feels offensively
at least really well, coached especially when you watch the home.
Games BUT i do think next year should be the
year they had a number one recruiting. Class they have
good they're, capitalized there's a lot of money in the.
Program they're spending it an nil and five years in
(34:30):
or four years. In and if you look At Oklahoma
john he has yet to build a really physically imposing.
Defense signette's done, It Ohio state's got, It miami's got.
It all these Coat Dan, lanning all these coaches have.
Done Texas tech's not a great. Program they had a great.
Defense alabama. Didn't but maybe that's Just indiana Routing. Alabama
(34:52):
but my takeaway Is lincoln is one of. Those maybe
that's kind of this new kind Of Lane. Kiffen we
know he's exceptional on one side of the. Ball lane
doesn't have a history of building a bunch of great defenses.
Either AND i don't know if it's in the. PRACTICE
i don't know if that's where it. Unravels BUT i
(35:14):
think next year is the year that if they don't
become a playoff, TEAM i think it's incredibly reasonable to
just say it didn't work. Out it was, fun it
was better than previous, coaches but considering the, resources it
just didn't work.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
OUT i think there are a lot of variables. HERE
i do think The Notre dame, thing AND i heard
you And peyton talking about, it and obviously there's a
lot of. Conversation a lot OF usc people are not,
happy you, know the tradition going, away which is very.
Understandable there is a. Windings there is a, whiningess it
(35:47):
feels like to his side a little. Bit and, yeah college,
coaches wouldn't you, say basketball and, football whether you're winning or,
losing they're always a little. Whiny but when you, win
no one. Cares AND i think once you, START i,
mean they went nine and. Four and LIKE i said
About Dan, Lanning, Okay dan got a much easier. Runway
well we're not in year two. Anymore we're in your.
Four why does his team stocked With california, kids especially
(36:11):
from Southern, california and you'res still struggling physically to sustain
even IF i Throw signetti, Out he's a historic, outlier,
right how doubt these other? Guys is It mario in year?
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Four?
Speaker 2 (36:24):
RIGHT i mean because he left When Dan lanning took.
Over look what he's doing In miami and your team
is not even remotely competitive. ENOUGH i think THIS i
was texting with, you you, know The lyn. Situation him
go Into Penn state. Again they're. Financial is he PLAYING
usc trying to quadruple his salary or? WHATEVER i kind
of get. It but he's also going to a team
(36:46):
that's it's weird to Say Penn state's, rival but technically they.
Are now you're gonna play them most year if they
play him next. Year so they're just stealing your defensive
coordinator who you stole FROM, usc who was a huge
upgrade for you based on your history as.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
A defensive CORPS.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
U so who are you going to high as being
your new defensive. COORDINATOR i think we both. Agree if
he gets it, wrong it could derail his career AT.
Usc and, TWO i know everyone talks about the, class
right the number one. Class someone forwarded me an. Article
Because california rules a little different in a lot of,
states they can pay these kids in high. School you,
(37:18):
Know california wants that revenue to, Start they start taxing
that money when it exchanged. Hands so these kids are
getting bought in high school where an other they have
to wait till they get on. Campus unique. Rule so
it's not like these kids are signing up because they
believe in the vision Like georgia Or. Texas they're getting paid.
Early so but also they're. Eighteen you know what Has
(37:38):
Rick patino been? Saying the high school kid and at
this parallels college or football as, well and not just.
Basketball how many kids are really from that? Class Not
they're not all going to show up and Be Reggie.
Bush so the transfer portal is actually much more impactful
for next year than the.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Class, Right, YEAH i MEAN i know the high school.
Class there's four guys in that. Class there's a wide,
receiver there's a tight. End market is.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
There a pass rusher that's supposed to be like A
bosa bro.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Something, yeah they've got a pass rusher From New. Jersey
they have a wide, receiver they have a tight. End
those three, guys and they have one defensive tackle that'll
be a rotational defensial. Tackle they'll have three guys out
of that class that will absolutely make an. Impact, okay
there's a twenty.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Two there're twenty two guys on a field and you're
rotating thirty plus. Players you know it's. Not and let's
say their. Impact let's say one of them rolls an
ankle and you're assuming the best, case, right you just
you never.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Know, Yes, now look at their.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Schedule they Play Ohio, state they Play, oregon they Play Penn, STATE.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
I, mean they Play, washington they Play, yeah they're At
Penn state At. Indiana do you think the play offs next, Year,
WELL i think it's. THERE i will say. This they
bring the quarterback back and he will be in a
short list of the best quarterbacks in the, country so that.
Helps he'll be one of the top, seven eight nine
quarterbacks in the. Country And Lincoln riley's really good with.
(38:59):
Quarterbacks they're going to have to rely on a freshman
tight end and two freshman. Receivers the old line will
be good and they will be big. Defensively but we
know this team doesn't travel. Well That Penn state game
ends up being Late, october they're not going to win that.
Game they just don't win that. Game they couldn't win. It.
Illinois it is a program AND i think this is
(39:20):
completely fair that has not shown the ability to win
when they're uncomfortable being on the, road the weather's less than.
Ideal they don't get a call here or. There they
haven't shown the ability to do, that and SO i
JUST i look at. THIS i GUESS i Think lincoln dirty.
(39:41):
SMART i think he's a great offensive. Coach but now
you're gonna be in your. Five there's no more. Excuses
this team Isn't they don't, tackle they're not, physical they
don't play unless it's ideal. CONDITIONS i, mean they're actually at,
home really really. Tough, sorry you can't play all your games, home.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
And next year to of the home games Are. Oregon Ohiose.
STATE i mean they're gonna be underdogs about those, GAMES
i would, Assume, SO i, mean it's not weird at
all if they lose. THEM i do think his comments
THAT i saw after The bowl game basically like headed
into your, five now we're. READY i think that rubbed
a lot of people the wrong. Way AND i get
they've invested more money over the last you know. Year
the other thing, is you, KNOW i Think i've talked
(40:21):
to SOME nfl. People he's not the biggest personality. Guy
and when you look at a lot of these coaches
historically in college, football you go back to the, seventies
let alone out kind of got some big. Personalities now
with the money and GM's now run a lot of the,
recruiting your coaches don't need to. Recruit it's changed a little,
bit BUT i still think it. MATTERS i, mean you
(40:42):
look At Dan, lanning WHO i say has elevated immediately
to one of the best and most respected coaches in the.
COUNTRY a lot of juice behind that, guy and you're telling,
me you, know at the end of the, day you
don't quite have to recruit the same way because Money trump's.
Off but if we're offering the Same kirby's got. Personality you,
Know Dan lanning SAW i Hes lane could be a
little bit of a weird, cat but he's very energetic
(41:04):
and into this stuff and.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Learned mario Crystal, ball big.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Guy he lives. For mario Crystal ball is like the
more buttoned up At. Oseron you Know Ed edward was
one of the great recruiters in the history of college.
Football mario feels a little more, focused more of a family,
guy a little more dialed in from What i've, heard.
Workaholic AND i don't, know, MAN i THINK usc BECAUSE
i think there's so much hype behind this, class WHICH
i think would have mattered ten twenty years. Ago pete
(41:29):
had him. FOREVER i think they're a little less relevant
now because all of a, sudden you win nine to
eight games, again those kids could, leave you, know so
it's like you're not even guaranteed to have him for
three years. ANYMORE i think this transfer, portal which opens,
tomorrow has clearly proven to be much more. IMPACT i,
mean look At Fernando. MENDEUX i mean on a year
to year, basis the transfer portal kind of has changed
(41:53):
the playoffs for college. FOOTBALL i would, say, YEAH i,
LISTEN i just AND us is probably gonna do. Well they.
SHOULD i, mean they should have a lot of money
to buy some of these, guys but they better get
the whatever Whoever Texas tech's on for the defensive, LINE
i would just call those. Guys you, know it used
to be like the Moment alabama, offered you, know a
kid could be have no you, know a couple of
(42:13):
low school. Offers saban would give an offer Every sea
school would. OFFER i THINK i Think lincoln needs to
draft a little bit more off Like oregon And texas
when it.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Comes To David bailey was From, STANFORD usc passed on.
Him he goes To Texas. Tech you can't block. Him
so there you. Go i'll tell. You i'll say it.
AGAIN i know this is, obnoxious but when The College
Football playoff expanded in college foot well me and all these,
CHANGES i, said, folks it's going to be way. Better
(42:43):
it's going to feel like THE, nfl THE, nil the transfer.
Portal we have a chance to Have Indiana miami AN acc,
team a basketball school in The National. CHAMPIONSHIP i. Listen
i'll Like oregon in, forever AND i do think it.
Helps they Played, indiana so they at least they've seen.
(43:05):
THEM i think it'll be a really good football, game
a really FUN i think it'll be that'll be a
really fun football game to. Watch But I'm i'm watching
these games AND i just love Got it's thirty eight to.
Three Now, INDIANA i take.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
ONE i think one big. CHALLENGE i was texting someone.
THIS i think the transfer portal opens, tomorrow right On. Friday, yeah, yeah.
Yeah both his, Coordinators tosh And, stein are head coaches
in other. Places. Yes, again so we don't have a
two week break. ANYMORE i think these games next week
are Like thursday And. Friday there's a normal. Week now
for these, teams those, GUYS i mean they're gonna work.
(43:44):
CRAZY i, mean did you read the article About lane
staff going back and. Forth they're working like thirty hour.
DAYS i think they're gonna be at a little disadvantage
Where indiana's. COORDINATORS i don't know why no one ever
Interviews indiana's, coordinators but The shanahan and the defensive coordinators
feel like some of the best coordinators in the. Country
they're just staying In. Indiana So tosh and definitely the
(44:05):
dude At Kentucky. Stein i'm sure they are going to
be a heavy transfer portal. Teams their brains are gonna
be on a swivel just trying to do a game plan,
slash trying to work their staff from far. Away pretty big.
DISADVANTAGE i. Know landing was big On my guys are. Good, well,
yeah it's a lot easier when you got two and
a half. Weeks it becomes a little tougher with six
(44:26):
or seven days to, manage both for first time head.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Coaches all, right let's go Watch Georgia Ole miss.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Have a good. Night have you new? Year the volume
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