Ben Askren and Daniel Cormier ARE BACK with another episode of Funky and the Champ to talk about the biggest topics in MMA and the UFC! Ben and DC react to Alex Pereira predicting his head-kick KO vs. Jiri Prochazka before the fight. And the guys give their take on an INTENSE faceoff between Israel Adesanya and Dricus Du Plessis ahead of their UFC 305 headliner in Perth. Plus, Askren GOES IN ON Jon Jones playing mind games with his opponents, and why he believes a Pereira vs. Jones fight could play out like his Ciryl Gane fight did. #Volume #Herd
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Speaker 2 (01:48):
What up, guys? What was a brand new episode of
Funking champ On Daniel Cormier that's been asking what's up? Ben?
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I'm doing good? Uh get married for fourth of July
America's birthday. We're I celebrate fireworks, do some fun things.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Well I heard that you got like a really busy day,
Like I mean, I do that the life of being
asking every day?
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Uh, well, you know what I actually thought I had
got through my busy stretch, a lot of traveling, a
lot of wrestling, you know, and then my wife just
she throws these surprise social engagements on me, which whatever,
I'm sure we're gonna have a good time. I just
didn't know about it, you know, till like yesterday afternoon.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Hey, so like wrestling wise boy, oh yeah, Aspering won
the National Wrestling Duels.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Well, team Wisconsin, it was.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
It was your team essentially, it was your team. Look,
I love how generous you are with the praise of
the entire state. But it was the Asking Wrestling Academy.
I mean, y'all wrestled good bro. Congratulations.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Yeah, I appreciate that was that was a big thing
for us. That something we were trying to do for
a long time. We brought in all the big troops
and and we got it done.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
It was great.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
You know, what I think is the most amazing thing
is how you get your seniors when they're done still compete.
That's massive, man, And how many people do that?
Speaker 4 (03:04):
No, I mean that's we have a good relationship with
them and they know we've we've done a lot for
them and there you know, we say, hey, come do
this one thing and we'll also have a really good
time and they were into it.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah that's awesome man. Congratulations, Like that's not something you
expect from Wisconsin. But well, I guess now you do.
Now we are, But you guys like, Wisconsin is a state.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Daniel, someday you can move here and to boid that
seventeen percent state federal tax.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Wisconsin state income tax, ustad state federal tax state Incume
you're a smart guy. You have, Hey, you and Michael
Chandler are both guys that are smart and went to Missouri. Boys.
Sometimes y'all do some dumb shit, I mean, id or
say some dumb shit. Anyhow, Ben, are you into because
(03:55):
you know Louis? You know Louise boy, Louis. Let me
tell you some You've never met a bigger Poloton fan
in Luise?
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I mean this, really no, I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
God, Bro, he is the fucking president of the Alex
Perrera fan Club, Pullton, This Polloton, that Pullton.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
So am I gonna show up one day for this
podcast and he's gonna have the face paint on, Bro.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
He is.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
He is literally the biggest front runner you've ever met.
He's all you know who my two favorite fighters are.
I'm like, who, Luis? Oh Poloton in Islam? I mean,
come on, that's hard. That's hard, right, Ben? Anyhow? Funny Yes,
Pullton and Coach Plinio were talking after the knockout, saying
they saw him on saw him, I'm talking about your
(04:40):
p hospital on social media doing something and said I'm
gonna head kick him. Ben. Does it work like that?
I mean, does it work like that for a fight
you see something on the internet that you can just
implement it or does it feel like to you this
is something that he might have been working on and
doing and it showed itself. He took advantage because Louise
(05:01):
is all in. Louise believes that this just happened on
a whim. I'm not so sold. If I'm being.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Honest, I'm not so.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
I would say I'm in the middle somewhere because I
have had instances like that before where I just I
saw someone do something and wrestling that in fighting. But
I said, oh, we could take advantage of that, right
as a coach and say oh what in.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
But Ben, fifteen minutes before you went out there to wrestle.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Well.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
So the other difference is, you know, with me coaching
all my guys, the other high school kids, I've never
seen them before, right, so it would be the first
time I see them and I'll say, oh, there's there's
the there's that thing, you know, like whereas Yuri is like,
he's probably watched the Office film, He's already fought him before.
He's you know, he's been training for this fight, and
so it's like I feel like there's probably already some
things he was picking up on, and maybe that was
(05:46):
just like a quick reminder of like, oh yeah, that's
going to be open. And you know, at the day,
there was a lot of other things working for him. Also,
like there was a lot of things working for him,
so that wasn't the only thing working for him.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
He did. He did everything right and then fighting me,
Uri had no moments. It's really odd how you have
a fight between two fighters that have already fought and
the fight looks completely different. The first time Ye had moments,
he had takedowns, He was able to take him down
and hold him down, he was able to strike with him.
(06:19):
This time, I don't even know the Urine land a
significant strike. Do you recall him landing a significant.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
S well, you know, significant strike.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
I always hate that it's called the significant strike because
bro on the scorecard, it's anything that is not a
jab as a snimicant strike, which doesn't feel right at all.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
There's a jab not hurt.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Well, that hurts, and sometimes you know, an uppercut missus
or hitching you up here it doesn't hurt. So yeah,
I mean it feels like a weird terminology for significant strike.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
You know, I did in Trouble with that a lot,
a lot where I get mad about the takedown. I
get mad about the takedown because I don't agree with
the terminology. Mad at me about that.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Because that Matt Returners considered a takedown that is one.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
And also a takedown doesn't count unless you hold him
there for a serect. Yes, but if I pick you
up and I throw you to the ground, that's a takedown.
You and I both know that.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
They do they count that in the UFC.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
No, they don't. That's why I get mad. I'm like, well,
that's the takedown. So when Kobe coming to the Tomorrow
luzmanl Russ and he hit that double leg, he runs
Usman down to his hip and then Usman turns and
stands up. They said it's not a takedown.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
So, I mean I actually kind of a little bit
agree with them, because like in mixed martial arts, I
don't think a takedown should count.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Like you know, the thing I hate so much.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
And I don't know if it's Joe Rogan or Anark
that's guilty in this, But so they always say something like,
maybe get takedown in the round to steal the round,
and it's like, if you get taked down ten seconds up,
it shouldn't count, like it should come for nothing because
you've done nothing thing with it.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
That's that's that's me, but that and I also say
that you win. I always say that when I also
say that when shut up. I also say that when.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Are you a broken record? Right now?
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Are you a broken record?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I also say that when shut up. When we're in
a very even round and the round is tit fitat
and it's fifty to fifty with twenty seconds left, and
someone secures a takedown, I feel like that separates them
from their opponent, really wins them the wrong because there
(08:36):
is no difference in the striking, there is no difference
in the damage, there is no difference in some rounds.
So something has to differentiate the two. That's the takedown.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Okay, Yeah, I feel like if someone gets the takedown
and they do nothing with it, it should have Really
he's coming from wrestler should have very minimal value, Like
I would rather someone take me down and not punch
me at all, then like get a really hard light
kick even for example, Yeah, yeah, you're right, but surely
like a body kick or you know, hard punch out
(09:09):
much get taken on and have them not punch me,
then you know, get one of those things happen.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Ben is Alex Perrau living in a world where he's
just benefiting from being there at the right time, because
you go back five years in this division, the top
five is myself, wrestler, Jones wrestler, Yes, Bader wrestler, Rumbell
(09:38):
Johnson was a wrestler. Yep, Phil Davis was a wrestler.
Is he is he benefiting from living in the right
time right now? Because his top five is Urie Striker,
Jamal striker, rockets striker, Uncliath is a bit of a
(09:59):
grappler to but he's mostly a striker.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah, not grappling heavy. Yeah, this is Daniel.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
It's weird because you know, one of the things that
you would say about mixed martial arts or that you
generally thought, which now he is.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I mean he's going up there on like the all
timer list at this point.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Ye, and it's it's wild because one of the things
you would have said previously is if someone is so
specific with one genre, they're gonna fight someone who's gonna
have like you know, I think about rock paper scissors,
right yea, and they all beat each other. You're gonna
fight someone who's different stylistically from you.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
At some point.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
But he's this far in, I mean, he's two belts
in and many defenses in. He still has a fought
a really good wrestler.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
And I don't think there were I don't think I
don't think there is any.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Well, it's weird, I say, I mean that would go
to another points like, well, let me ask.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
You this, why are why are really good guys choosing
not to wrestle at this point? That one's weird to
me because you know, say ten years ago is right,
there was all these high level wrestlers coming in, and
now we don't see all that many high level wresler's
making the transition, so you're not gonna get them. At
the top of the day, I was saying.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Like, where are all the kids that where are all
the people that wrestle that weigh two hundred and thirty pounds. Yeah,
for real, like seriously, because tell me the top ten.
I bet you can pull up the light heavyway top
ten right now in the UFC.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I will do it.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
When you look at that and you look at the
people there, they're don't they're don and they don't seem
to have many matchups that will cause him a ton
of problems. I bring this up because of this. I
don't know if he wants to. I don't know how
long he can run this type of string together because
(11:47):
everybody he fights will have to strike with him. And
when you strike with him, it has proven time and
time again, then he knocks you out.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
So if you don't mean that ability, Dane, you look
at one five and one ninety five, there's not really
a person in the top ten in either division that
is like you would you would say is a super
high level wrestler and uses it a lot in mixed
martial arts. Yeah, and for weird, Yes, it's weird because
they just don't exist, you heavyweight, that's not really the case.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Blades shoots a lot of takedowns Espinall.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Time Wrestle, All Wrestle and graft Al Maida can wrestle. Yeah,
but eighty five and two five.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
It's thin who's duo five?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Top ten?
Speaker 1 (12:33):
We got uh Alis Yeary the live.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Start at ten and TV backwards.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah, okay, sorry Anthony Smith, Anthony who does he could be?
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I'm not my boy. He is not the top ten
after last weekend.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Okay, well he is. I'm on the website and he
colonel here, so.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
He's number ten after that fight he had last weekend.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I don't know, maybe they haven't updated. I'm not certain.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Okay, so Smith owed him here round tree Walker, cry
alov Reki Blokowitz, hal Elkliav Prasca.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
I mean, I guess jan Behovich can be considered a.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Guy that he's not grappling heavy.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I'm just saying, though, when he fought each other, he
was able to take him down and control well.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
And so that's the thing that's that feels so weird
about Peira, is you, like I said, you kind of
have to start putting in an al Teimer category when
he's won multiple belts, defended titles. But then you think about, okay, well,
Yoh's not really good wrestler and took him down and
kept him down the whole round, right, the whole round
is he is, he who's not a wrestler, took him
down and kept numbers him time. He can wrestle a
(13:38):
little bit, a little bit, and so you think, like, okay,
if he fights a really good wrestler, this may be
a problem for him.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
But then you will get the rankings to your point
and you say, but there are none.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Are are there any guys in that ranking that you
would consider favorite to beat him? I mean unklia of odds.
He's a plus one thirty dollars against Uncliath.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Yeah, that to me, I'm in front colliab I you
know I and we've talked about many times. I am
kind of against the champ champ thing. I loved it
back in the day when George Saint Pierre Anderson Silba,
when they fought everyone in the division, they cleared out
their divisions, they beat everyone, right, I'm all in for that.
So there's still some guys in here he hasn't fought,
(14:22):
and he's one of it. Seems to be one of
the only champions currently who wants to be really active,
like he's very active.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yeah, he's fighting frequently.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Do do you put him in there? And Caliath as
as a promotion knowing the dangers of that fight. Whenever
you have a guy in Pereira who is really a
massive star ben, he says Chama. He says Chama, like seriously,
he says Chama. If people go crazy, dog, I put
(14:54):
a video of him I was doing that stupid walk
that he doesn't Yeah, the and he goes Tauma. It's
got like eighty thousand likes.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
That's ridiculous, crazy bro.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
So So hold, I do what you asked me a
question I do want.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
The party has a promotion where you go, I kind
of put him in there with somebody else.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Well, okay, so let's tell us the UFC does doesn't
has try to move people up the wrongs faster, you know,
Sewn Omalley kind of a nice path. Alex Praro had
a nice path to out Ofsanya.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
They do do this.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
But the one thing the UFC, to my knowledge, does
not do is protected. It's protected and unlessen They might
give you a more favorable fight one time, right, they
might say, oh, let's jump this guy because this one's
gonna be big money or whatever, but they're not going
to do it over the course of three or four
or five fights. They do not protect you remember that
famous Vince McMahon quote that he said about mixed martial arts.
(15:53):
It was funny, said they'll never make a billion dollars
because they can't control the outcomes, right.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
So they can't make the star, star bill, star building.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
But they've done it, so I don't see any reason
why they wouldn't change. And they said they might pick
a couple opponents, but they're not going to protect him
for a long time. He's going to have to fight
the best guys in the division or bump up. And
you know, honestly, Aspinall is significantly tougher fight things for him.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
It's so dangerous for him, is so dangerous. He's so
big and he's so good at everything. I don't know
if that hey, but I'll tell you one thing Jones said.
Now he might stick around because he goes the options
are looking great. And if I'm Jones, look man, if
I'm Jones, I fight step A. I beat step A.
And then I called out the UFC to make Perrera
(16:41):
go up, knowing that you can take all that thunder
because Jones versus Perera would be a massive, uh yeah,
a massive payday.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I still I listen. I love Alex Perero.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
So it almost feels I feel guilty saying this, but
it feels like that would be similar to sebro Ghan.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yes, he bro Jones is a minus eight hundred favorite
to fight Perra and beat Perera if they were to fight.
So it's just like not a great matchup. But I
love Alex man. It couldn't have happened to a better
guy than Perera, his team and those people, because shauma
is one of the coolest words I've ever.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Heard our life.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
But John Jones is the I mean, I don't know,
it's like, I feel like this is me as a fan.
I feel like I get so sick of it, and
I have to assume other fans fe the same way
as me. It's like it just feels like he's constantly
playing games. I mean, he's fought one time, Siro Gone
his fight before that, his fight that was February of
twenty twenty. We're talking four and a half years ago.
(17:45):
He's had a singular fight.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
No, I know, I know, it's well, yeah, he got
hurt last time, so you gotta give.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Him a little Yeah, but four and a half years,
how how many times can you be hurt?
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just before we move on real quick because we can't
stay long today. You have stuff I have I do.
But bro urrope ro Hotchka had convinced himself that that
Alex was doing.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I hate it. That was I literally brought that up.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
I do those videos for my booky Man, if you
start talking like that, that is a clear sign you're
gonna get your ass kicked. Like if you're starting to
worry about witchcraft, like, nope, you're done.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
You're not gonna win. I said it.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
I said, listen, if if he'ple worried about witchcraft, this
is gonna be over quick. He's gonna get knocked out.
And that was what happened.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Ben.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
He walked on the stage after weigh ins, he goes.
I could see it in his eyes. He was trying
to do something.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
He was like, you're crazy.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
No, seriously, bro. Whenever Alex's song was playing and ye
was in the middle of the octagon, He's literally like
pulling in the the energy, like putting it inside of himself.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
No monoga, dude.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
When you get when you get that far, it's a
little too far, and yeah, I said it. I said
it like I hate this, hate the fact they thing
about this thing about that type of stuff. Man, it's
probably over for you.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
It was awesome, dude. I love Yari bro, I love
Yuri's so what She's the best? All right, Ben Israel,
ad of Sonya and drink is due plus c Yes
are now scheduled for Perth at UFC three oh five.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
I believe yesterday had a press conference, dude, plus seeing
that is Signya faced off for the first time, the
first time we've seen them come together since that very
uncomfortable interaction inside the octagon. Was that? What would you
say when I said that it was.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Very uncomfortable, very.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Very uncomfortable, especially like people who aren't black. We're like, wa,
this is crazy. So anyhow they come together, how much
do you think it bothered Edisnia because one of the
reasons they're so mad at each other are is he
and so upset South Africa? Africa. You so eloquently.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Talked about the history, talked.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
About the history and explained it to us as to
why a guy like Edisanya would feel that. But then
the first thing, or one of the first things Strickling,
not Strickland. Draken says, is it's very exciting for me.
Two African guys fighting for a world championship. How mad
do you think that made any You believe the fact
(22:06):
that EDISGNYA wasn't inebriated, it may not have bothered him
as much as it did whenever they were at that event.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Hmmm, No, I wouldn't say.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
I would say it bothered him for sure, just based
on Drake though smart to do that. Uh yeah, I
think so. I mean that's kind of what Drakes has
done to this point. And you know said I didn't
love some of the trash talking against Sean Strickland. I
thought it was a little bulls belt, but he did
it anyways and it worked, So I.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Really don't see why he wouldn't continue with that type
of behavior.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Did you see what Sean Strickland said to it against
Peyton about team Peyton Talbot?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Know what he said?
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Peyton Talbot is awesome through Yes, And Sean Strickland wrote
something like, uh no, Sean Strickland's out of his mind, dude,
He said.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Yes, But did you see Sean Strickland fight that marine?
I want I kind of want the backstory on it.
But like, did that guy, why did you get beat
up so bad?
Speaker 1 (23:01):
I don't know, man, I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
I don't know why fans do that, the ones that
just decide I want to fight an MMA fighter, Like
it's the dumbest thing in the world. You're not beat up.
But anyhow, Yeah, he he made a very bad gay
joke about Baton Talbot. I don't know what, dude, it
was bad. Sean Strick composted it like Sean Sean does
though Sean it was on Twitter or on ex or
(23:27):
I don't know where it was. I saw it was
a picture. It was bad. Sean does whatever he wants.
It's so crazy. Sean also is mad at Robert Whitaker.
Told Robert Witicker sit his ass in the back because
he should be the backup fighter. But is this fight?
Is this fight between Dracerson?
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Is he.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Does it mean as much as is he? No? No,
let me let me rephrase this by is he making
it so important that it's the history of the entire
country or the continent?
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Is that a good thing or a bad thing? Is
that unneeded pressure for Edison you to put on himself?
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Yeah, I would definitely say unneeded. But some people that's positive, right,
some people maybe not so good. You know, they crack
under that type of pressure. So maybe out of signings
type of guy where he feels like he needs to
feel that pressure, he needs to feel that type of emotion.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
I think I don't think I've ever seen him like
sway like. Actually, I would say with the strickl fight
where he lost, I think that was one where he
didn't kind of build it up too much, you know,
where it was kind of like it almost looked like
he was taking it easy or was under was he
was underwhelmed by Sean Stricklins, didn't come out to fight
as hard as he maybe should have. So maybe he
(24:52):
needs that type of thing that's to be more positive
for him.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
You think that's good for a guy that was honestly
talking about being done until two thousand twenty seven, it
almost that was weird.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
That was so weird though, Yeah, but he.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Was like he wanted a break and now he's in
the biggest fight that he can get.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Yes, well, I put some of these guys dated.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
I don't know if I don't know if you ever
dealt this with your athletes, some of your athletes, because
those are people, you know, even closer than these fighters.
Some dudes just say some wild things and you have
to be like, come on, man, you.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Don't really that's dumb.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
You don't really mean it, you know, like that's totally illogical.
Let me just talk to you for three minutes and
tell you why that's illogical. And then you talk to
me like, yeah, you're right, I shouldn't make sense. I
shouldn't have done that, you know, like so, and I
feel like out of sign is that kind of guy?
Speaker 1 (25:40):
So like when he said I'm not fighting on twenty
twenty seven, if you.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Would have loved me wager that I would have wagered
all my bitcoin on that that was not.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Gonna happen twenty twenty seven. Yeah, right, Like it was.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
So ridiculous for real, I would have I would have
want so many bitcoin on that.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I just think that. I just think that he was
frustrated losing that fight to Sean Strickland, and bro it's
also hard right whenever he was the guy he gets
beat by Sean Strickland, who Perera beat. It's like there's
a whole thing. Those guys will always be linked to
each other, and that has to be hard for a
guy like Edisanya. But I love this fight. I love
(26:19):
that these two guys are going to settle the score.
You know what's crazy to me is Ury's weird, right,
Ury's weird, but and Ury fights weird. Yes, but we
have now seen Perera able to just figure it out. Yes, Drake,
(26:41):
this is weird, but nobody can figure him out, figure
them out? Yet? How does he win with that style?
Speaker 1 (26:49):
I mean, dude, that was you know it was I was.
I was a doubter.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
I saw the way he's this is weird, and I
thought Robert Whitaker was going to beat him. Then I
thought Sean's Chicken was gonna beat him, and he has
just continued to prove us wrong. And so you know,
like when I watch them, I feel like, Israel Asi,
you should be able to beat him, but given what's happened,
it's like, oh man, that's how I feel. But I
(27:13):
would have a hard time making that bed.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
I think Drake is actually takes our thoughts and he
goes and he applies it to himself and he gets better.
I made fun of him and his wrestling in one fight.
I was like, yeah, do that. I was like, that
makes no sense. But then he comes back the next
fight and he does something way better and it worked,
and it's like he fixed it. It's like he fixed
it from fight one to the next fight because he
(27:37):
wanted to prove that he could do it. It was crazy. Bro,
He's he's a good champion and I'm excited about that
one in Perth. And also, you actually got me an appearance,
so for the first time, I feel like you're giving
me something, whereas I'm usually always giving you stuff in
this relationship and they say hand come, they say hand come,
hand go in relationships. Unfortunately, it hasn't been that way.
(28:01):
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Speaker 2 (01:48):
What up, guys? What was a brand new episode of
Funking champ On Daniel Cormier that's been asking what's up? Ben?
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I'm doing good? Uh get married for fourth of July
America's birthday. We're I celebrate fireworks, do some fun things.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Well I heard that you got like a really busy day,
Like I mean, I do that the life of being
asking every day?
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Uh, well, you know what I actually thought I had
got through my busy stretch, a lot of traveling, a
lot of wrestling, you know, and then my wife just
she throws these surprise social engagements on me, which whatever,
I'm sure we're gonna have a good time. I just
didn't know about it, you know, till like yesterday afternoon.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Hey, so like wrestling wise boy, oh yeah, Aspering won
the National Wrestling Duels.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Well, team Wisconsin, it was.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
It was your team essentially, it was your team. Look,
I love how generous you are with the praise of
the entire state. But it was the Asking Wrestling Academy.
I mean, y'all wrestled good bro. Congratulations.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Yeah, I appreciate that was that was a big thing
for us. That something we were trying to do for
a long time. We brought in all the big troops
and and we got it done.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
It was great.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
You know, what I think is the most amazing thing
is how you get your seniors when they're done still compete.
That's massive, man, And how many people do that?
Speaker 4 (03:04):
No, I mean that's we have a good relationship with
them and they know we've we've done a lot for
them and there you know, we say, hey, come do
this one thing and we'll also have a really good
time and they were into it.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah that's awesome man. Congratulations, Like that's not something you
expect from Wisconsin. But well, I guess now you do.
Now we are, But you guys like, Wisconsin is a state.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Daniel, someday you can move here and to boid that
seventeen percent state federal tax.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Wisconsin state income tax, ustad state federal tax state Incume
you're a smart guy. You have, Hey, you and Michael
Chandler are both guys that are smart and went to Missouri. Boys.
Sometimes y'all do some dumb shit, I mean, id or
say some dumb shit. Anyhow, Ben, are you into because
(03:55):
you know Louis? You know Louise boy, Louis. Let me
tell you some You've never met a bigger Poloton fan
in Luise?
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I mean this, really no, I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
God, Bro, he is the fucking president of the Alex
Perrera fan Club, Pullton, This Polloton, that Pullton.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
So am I gonna show up one day for this
podcast and he's gonna have the face paint on, Bro.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
He is.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
He is literally the biggest front runner you've ever met.
He's all you know who my two favorite fighters are.
I'm like, who, Luis? Oh Poloton in Islam? I mean,
come on, that's hard. That's hard, right, Ben? Anyhow? Funny Yes,
Pullton and Coach Plinio were talking after the knockout, saying
they saw him on saw him, I'm talking about your
(04:40):
p hospital on social media doing something and said I'm
gonna head kick him. Ben. Does it work like that?
I mean, does it work like that for a fight
you see something on the internet that you can just
implement it or does it feel like to you this
is something that he might have been working on and
doing and it showed itself. He took advantage because Louise
(05:01):
is all in. Louise believes that this just happened on
a whim. I'm not so sold. If I'm being.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Honest, I'm not so.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
I would say I'm in the middle somewhere because I
have had instances like that before where I just I
saw someone do something and wrestling that in fighting. But
I said, oh, we could take advantage of that, right
as a coach and say oh what in.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
But Ben, fifteen minutes before you went out there to wrestle.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Well.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
So the other difference is, you know, with me coaching
all my guys, the other high school kids, I've never
seen them before, right, so it would be the first
time I see them and I'll say, oh, there's there's
the there's that thing, you know, like whereas Yuri is like,
he's probably watched the Office film, He's already fought him before.
He's you know, he's been training for this fight, and
so it's like I feel like there's probably already some
things he was picking up on, and maybe that was
(05:46):
just like a quick reminder of like, oh yeah, that's
going to be open. And you know, at the day,
there was a lot of other things working for him. Also,
like there was a lot of things working for him,
so that wasn't the only thing working for him.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
He did. He did everything right and then fighting me,
Uri had no moments. It's really odd how you have
a fight between two fighters that have already fought and
the fight looks completely different. The first time Ye had moments,
he had takedowns, He was able to take him down
and hold him down, he was able to strike with him.
(06:19):
This time, I don't even know the Urine land a
significant strike. Do you recall him landing a significant.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
S well, you know, significant strike.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
I always hate that it's called the significant strike because
bro on the scorecard, it's anything that is not a
jab as a snimicant strike, which doesn't feel right at all.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
There's a jab not hurt.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Well, that hurts, and sometimes you know, an uppercut missus
or hitching you up here it doesn't hurt. So yeah,
I mean it feels like a weird terminology for significant strike.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
You know, I did in Trouble with that a lot,
a lot where I get mad about the takedown. I
get mad about the takedown because I don't agree with
the terminology. Mad at me about that.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Because that Matt Returners considered a takedown that is one.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
And also a takedown doesn't count unless you hold him
there for a serect. Yes, but if I pick you
up and I throw you to the ground, that's a takedown.
You and I both know that.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
They do they count that in the UFC.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
No, they don't. That's why I get mad. I'm like, well,
that's the takedown. So when Kobe coming to the Tomorrow
luzmanl Russ and he hit that double leg, he runs
Usman down to his hip and then Usman turns and
stands up. They said it's not a takedown.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
So, I mean I actually kind of a little bit
agree with them, because like in mixed martial arts, I
don't think a takedown should count.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Like you know, the thing I hate so much.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
And I don't know if it's Joe Rogan or Anark
that's guilty in this, But so they always say something like,
maybe get takedown in the round to steal the round,
and it's like, if you get taked down ten seconds up,
it shouldn't count, like it should come for nothing because
you've done nothing thing with it.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
That's that's that's me, but that and I also say
that you win. I always say that when I also
say that when shut up. I also say that when.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Are you a broken record? Right now?
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Are you a broken record?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I also say that when shut up. When we're in
a very even round and the round is tit fitat
and it's fifty to fifty with twenty seconds left, and
someone secures a takedown, I feel like that separates them
from their opponent, really wins them the wrong because there
(08:36):
is no difference in the striking, there is no difference
in the damage, there is no difference in some rounds.
So something has to differentiate the two. That's the takedown.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Okay, Yeah, I feel like if someone gets the takedown
and they do nothing with it, it should have Really
he's coming from wrestler should have very minimal value, Like
I would rather someone take me down and not punch
me at all, then like get a really hard light
kick even for example, Yeah, yeah, you're right, but surely
like a body kick or you know, hard punch out
(09:09):
much get taken on and have them not punch me,
then you know, get one of those things happen.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Ben is Alex Perrau living in a world where he's
just benefiting from being there at the right time, because
you go back five years in this division, the top
five is myself, wrestler, Jones wrestler, Yes, Bader wrestler, Rumbell
(09:38):
Johnson was a wrestler. Yep, Phil Davis was a wrestler.
Is he is he benefiting from living in the right
time right now? Because his top five is Urie Striker,
Jamal striker, rockets striker, Uncliath is a bit of a
(09:59):
grappler to but he's mostly a striker.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah, not grappling heavy. Yeah, this is Daniel.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
It's weird because you know, one of the things that
you would say about mixed martial arts or that you
generally thought, which now he is.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I mean he's going up there on like the all
timer list at this point.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Ye, and it's it's wild because one of the things
you would have said previously is if someone is so
specific with one genre, they're gonna fight someone who's gonna
have like you know, I think about rock paper scissors,
right yea, and they all beat each other. You're gonna
fight someone who's different stylistically from you.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
At some point.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
But he's this far in, I mean, he's two belts
in and many defenses in. He still has a fought
a really good wrestler.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
And I don't think there were I don't think I
don't think there is any.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Well, it's weird, I say, I mean that would go
to another points like, well, let me ask.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
You this, why are why are really good guys choosing
not to wrestle at this point? That one's weird to
me because you know, say ten years ago is right,
there was all these high level wrestlers coming in, and
now we don't see all that many high level wresler's
making the transition, so you're not gonna get them. At
the top of the day, I was saying.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Like, where are all the kids that where are all
the people that wrestle that weigh two hundred and thirty pounds. Yeah,
for real, like seriously, because tell me the top ten.
I bet you can pull up the light heavyway top
ten right now in the UFC.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I will do it.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
When you look at that and you look at the
people there, they're don't they're don and they don't seem
to have many matchups that will cause him a ton
of problems. I bring this up because of this. I
don't know if he wants to. I don't know how
long he can run this type of string together because
(11:47):
everybody he fights will have to strike with him. And
when you strike with him, it has proven time and
time again, then he knocks you out.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
So if you don't mean that ability, Dane, you look
at one five and one ninety five, there's not really
a person in the top ten in either division that
is like you would you would say is a super
high level wrestler and uses it a lot in mixed
martial arts. Yeah, and for weird, Yes, it's weird because
they just don't exist, you heavyweight, that's not really the case.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Blades shoots a lot of takedowns Espinall.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Time Wrestle, All Wrestle and graft Al Maida can wrestle. Yeah,
but eighty five and two five.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
It's thin who's duo five?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Top ten?
Speaker 1 (12:33):
We got uh Alis Yeary the live.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Start at ten and TV backwards.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah, okay, sorry Anthony Smith, Anthony who does he could be?
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I'm not my boy. He is not the top ten
after last weekend.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Okay, well he is. I'm on the website and he
colonel here, so.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
He's number ten after that fight he had last weekend.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I don't know, maybe they haven't updated. I'm not certain.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Okay, so Smith owed him here round tree Walker, cry
alov Reki Blokowitz, hal Elkliav Prasca.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
I mean, I guess jan Behovich can be considered a.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Guy that he's not grappling heavy.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I'm just saying, though, when he fought each other, he
was able to take him down and control well.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
And so that's the thing that's that feels so weird
about Peira, is you, like I said, you kind of
have to start putting in an al Teimer category when
he's won multiple belts, defended titles. But then you think about, okay, well,
Yoh's not really good wrestler and took him down and
kept him down the whole round, right, the whole round
is he is, he who's not a wrestler, took him
down and kept numbers him time. He can wrestle a
(13:38):
little bit, a little bit, and so you think, like, okay,
if he fights a really good wrestler, this may be
a problem for him.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
But then you will get the rankings to your point
and you say, but there are none.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Are are there any guys in that ranking that you
would consider favorite to beat him? I mean unklia of odds.
He's a plus one thirty dollars against Uncliath.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Yeah, that to me, I'm in front colliab I you
know I and we've talked about many times. I am
kind of against the champ champ thing. I loved it
back in the day when George Saint Pierre Anderson Silba,
when they fought everyone in the division, they cleared out
their divisions, they beat everyone, right, I'm all in for that.
So there's still some guys in here he hasn't fought,
(14:22):
and he's one of it. Seems to be one of
the only champions currently who wants to be really active,
like he's very active.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yeah, he's fighting frequently.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Do do you put him in there? And Caliath as
as a promotion knowing the dangers of that fight. Whenever
you have a guy in Pereira who is really a
massive star ben, he says Chama. He says Chama, like seriously,
he says Chama. If people go crazy, dog, I put
(14:54):
a video of him I was doing that stupid walk
that he doesn't Yeah, the and he goes Tauma. It's
got like eighty thousand likes.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
That's ridiculous, crazy bro.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
So So hold, I do what you asked me a
question I do want.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
The party has a promotion where you go, I kind
of put him in there with somebody else.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Well, okay, so let's tell us the UFC does doesn't
has try to move people up the wrongs faster, you know,
Sewn Omalley kind of a nice path. Alex Praro had
a nice path to out Ofsanya.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
They do do this.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
But the one thing the UFC, to my knowledge, does
not do is protected. It's protected and unlessen They might
give you a more favorable fight one time, right, they
might say, oh, let's jump this guy because this one's
gonna be big money or whatever, but they're not going
to do it over the course of three or four
or five fights. They do not protect you remember that
famous Vince McMahon quote that he said about mixed martial arts.
(15:53):
It was funny, said they'll never make a billion dollars
because they can't control the outcomes, right.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
So they can't make the star, star bill, star building.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
But they've done it, so I don't see any reason
why they wouldn't change. And they said they might pick
a couple opponents, but they're not going to protect him
for a long time. He's going to have to fight
the best guys in the division or bump up. And
you know, honestly, Aspinall is significantly tougher fight things for him.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
It's so dangerous for him, is so dangerous. He's so
big and he's so good at everything. I don't know
if that hey, but I'll tell you one thing Jones said.
Now he might stick around because he goes the options
are looking great. And if I'm Jones, look man, if
I'm Jones, I fight step A. I beat step A.
And then I called out the UFC to make Perrera
(16:41):
go up, knowing that you can take all that thunder
because Jones versus Perera would be a massive, uh yeah,
a massive payday.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I still I listen. I love Alex Perero.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
So it almost feels I feel guilty saying this, but
it feels like that would be similar to sebro Ghan.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yes, he bro Jones is a minus eight hundred favorite
to fight Perra and beat Perera if they were to fight.
So it's just like not a great matchup. But I
love Alex man. It couldn't have happened to a better
guy than Perera, his team and those people, because shauma
is one of the coolest words I've ever.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Heard our life.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
But John Jones is the I mean, I don't know,
it's like, I feel like this is me as a fan.
I feel like I get so sick of it, and
I have to assume other fans fe the same way
as me. It's like it just feels like he's constantly
playing games. I mean, he's fought one time, Siro Gone
his fight before that, his fight that was February of
twenty twenty. We're talking four and a half years ago.
(17:45):
He's had a singular fight.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
No, I know, I know, it's well, yeah, he got
hurt last time, so you gotta give.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Him a little Yeah, but four and a half years,
how how many times can you be hurt?
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just before we move on real quick because we can't
stay long today. You have stuff I have I do.
But bro urrope ro Hotchka had convinced himself that that
Alex was doing.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I hate it. That was I literally brought that up.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
I do those videos for my booky Man, if you
start talking like that, that is a clear sign you're
gonna get your ass kicked. Like if you're starting to
worry about witchcraft, like, nope, you're done.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
You're not gonna win. I said it.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
I said, listen, if if he'ple worried about witchcraft, this
is gonna be over quick. He's gonna get knocked out.
And that was what happened.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Ben.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
He walked on the stage after weigh ins, he goes.
I could see it in his eyes. He was trying
to do something.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
He was like, you're crazy.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
No, seriously, bro. Whenever Alex's song was playing and ye
was in the middle of the octagon, He's literally like
pulling in the the energy, like putting it inside of himself.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
No monoga, dude.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
When you get when you get that far, it's a
little too far, and yeah, I said it. I said
it like I hate this, hate the fact they thing
about this thing about that type of stuff. Man, it's
probably over for you.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
It was awesome, dude. I love Yari bro, I love
Yuri's so what She's the best? All right, Ben Israel,
ad of Sonya and drink is due plus c Yes
are now scheduled for Perth at UFC three oh five.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
I believe yesterday had a press conference, dude, plus seeing
that is Signya faced off for the first time, the
first time we've seen them come together since that very
uncomfortable interaction inside the octagon. Was that? What would you
say when I said that it was.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Very uncomfortable, very.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Very uncomfortable, especially like people who aren't black. We're like, wa,
this is crazy. So anyhow they come together, how much
do you think it bothered Edisnia because one of the
reasons they're so mad at each other are is he
and so upset South Africa? Africa. You so eloquently.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Talked about the history, talked.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
About the history and explained it to us as to
why a guy like Edisanya would feel that. But then
the first thing, or one of the first things Strickling,
not Strickland. Draken says, is it's very exciting for me.
Two African guys fighting for a world championship. How mad
do you think that made any You believe the fact
(22:06):
that EDISGNYA wasn't inebriated, it may not have bothered him
as much as it did whenever they were at that event.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Hmmm, No, I wouldn't say.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
I would say it bothered him for sure, just based
on Drake though smart to do that. Uh yeah, I
think so. I mean that's kind of what Drakes has
done to this point. And you know said I didn't
love some of the trash talking against Sean Strickland. I
thought it was a little bulls belt, but he did
it anyways and it worked, So I.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Really don't see why he wouldn't continue with that type
of behavior.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Did you see what Sean Strickland said to it against
Peyton about team Peyton Talbot?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Know what he said?
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Peyton Talbot is awesome through Yes, And Sean Strickland wrote
something like, uh no, Sean Strickland's out of his mind, dude,
He said.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Yes, But did you see Sean Strickland fight that marine?
I want I kind of want the backstory on it.
But like, did that guy, why did you get beat
up so bad?
Speaker 1 (23:01):
I don't know, man, I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
I don't know why fans do that, the ones that
just decide I want to fight an MMA fighter, Like
it's the dumbest thing in the world. You're not beat up.
But anyhow, Yeah, he he made a very bad gay
joke about Baton Talbot. I don't know what, dude, it
was bad. Sean Strick composted it like Sean Sean does
though Sean it was on Twitter or on ex or
(23:27):
I don't know where it was. I saw it was
a picture. It was bad. Sean does whatever he wants.
It's so crazy. Sean also is mad at Robert Whitaker.
Told Robert Witicker sit his ass in the back because
he should be the backup fighter. But is this fight?
Is this fight between Dracerson?
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Is he.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Does it mean as much as is he? No? No,
let me let me rephrase this by is he making
it so important that it's the history of the entire
country or the continent?
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Is that a good thing or a bad thing? Is
that unneeded pressure for Edison you to put on himself?
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Yeah, I would definitely say unneeded. But some people that's positive, right,
some people maybe not so good. You know, they crack
under that type of pressure. So maybe out of signings
type of guy where he feels like he needs to
feel that pressure, he needs to feel that type of emotion.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
I think I don't think I've ever seen him like
sway like. Actually, I would say with the strickl fight
where he lost, I think that was one where he
didn't kind of build it up too much, you know,
where it was kind of like it almost looked like
he was taking it easy or was under was he
was underwhelmed by Sean Stricklins, didn't come out to fight
as hard as he maybe should have. So maybe he
(24:52):
needs that type of thing that's to be more positive
for him.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
You think that's good for a guy that was honestly
talking about being done until two thousand twenty seven, it
almost that was weird.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
That was so weird though, Yeah, but he.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Was like he wanted a break and now he's in
the biggest fight that he can get.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Yes, well, I put some of these guys dated.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
I don't know if I don't know if you ever
dealt this with your athletes, some of your athletes, because
those are people, you know, even closer than these fighters.
Some dudes just say some wild things and you have
to be like, come on, man, you.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Don't really that's dumb.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
You don't really mean it, you know, like that's totally illogical.
Let me just talk to you for three minutes and
tell you why that's illogical. And then you talk to
me like, yeah, you're right, I shouldn't make sense. I
shouldn't have done that, you know, like so, and I
feel like out of sign is that kind of guy?
Speaker 1 (25:40):
So like when he said I'm not fighting on twenty
twenty seven, if you.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Would have loved me wager that I would have wagered
all my bitcoin on that that was not.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Gonna happen twenty twenty seven. Yeah, right, Like it was.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
So ridiculous for real, I would have I would have
want so many bitcoin on that.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I just think that. I just think that he was
frustrated losing that fight to Sean Strickland, and bro it's
also hard right whenever he was the guy he gets
beat by Sean Strickland, who Perera beat. It's like there's
a whole thing. Those guys will always be linked to
each other, and that has to be hard for a
guy like Edisanya. But I love this fight. I love
(26:19):
that these two guys are going to settle the score.
You know what's crazy to me is Ury's weird, right,
Ury's weird, but and Ury fights weird. Yes, but we
have now seen Perera able to just figure it out. Yes, Drake,
(26:41):
this is weird, but nobody can figure him out, figure
them out? Yet? How does he win with that style?
Speaker 1 (26:49):
I mean, dude, that was you know it was I was.
I was a doubter.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
I saw the way he's this is weird, and I
thought Robert Whitaker was going to beat him. Then I
thought Sean's Chicken was gonna beat him, and he has
just continued to prove us wrong. And so you know,
like when I watch them, I feel like, Israel Asi,
you should be able to beat him, but given what's happened,
it's like, oh man, that's how I feel. But I
(27:13):
would have a hard time making that bed.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
I think Drake is actually takes our thoughts and he
goes and he applies it to himself and he gets better.
I made fun of him and his wrestling in one fight.
I was like, yeah, do that. I was like, that
makes no sense. But then he comes back the next
fight and he does something way better and it worked,
and it's like he fixed it. It's like he fixed
it from fight one to the next fight because he
(27:37):
wanted to prove that he could do it. It was crazy. Bro,
He's he's a good champion and I'm excited about that
one in Perth. And also, you actually got me an appearance,
so for the first time, I feel like you're giving
me something, whereas I'm usually always giving you stuff in
this relationship and they say hand come, they say hand come,
hand go in relationships. Unfortunately, it hasn't been that way.
(28:01):
From being asking and hey, Ben, I know you got
a real busy day, my brother. Thank you for doing
the podcast and we always enjoy it. Thank you for
your time, guys, I have been asking. I'm Daniel Cormier.
Happy fourth of July. Guys. We'll catch you on the
next one. Peace.
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