March 18, 2025 • 28 mins
Jason answers NBA mailbag questions from listeners on topics such as a potential Los Angeles Lakers-Golden State Warriors playoff series between LeBron James and Luka Doncic vs. Steph Curry and Jimmy Butler, who's better between Austin Reaves and Brandin Podziemski, what the heck are the Dallas Mavericks doing, and more.
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4:15 - Start
5:15 - Lakers/Warriors matchup
9:15 - Are Nuggets still contenders
14:00 - Steph's Finals legacy
29:00 - What are the Mavericks doing
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Today we're hitting our mail bag. A bunch of you
guys dropped a bunch of really good questions. Remember, if
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I've just been doing a lot of traveling in March,
so we've been on a funky schedule. But after the
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Like I mentioned earlier, keep dropping mailback questions in the
YouTube comments. All right, let's talk some basketball. First question, Hello,
and thank you for the amazing content every week. My
question is about the new Warriors with Jimmy Butler. After
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the All Star Break, the Warriors had the second easiest
remaining schedule in the league. So our thirteen to one
in the games with Jimmy is it a bit inflated
and not an accurate depiction of their team. So I
think a couple of different things are true. Like, I
think it's okay to acknowledge that the Warriors have had
an easy schedule while also not overthinking what this team
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is actually capable of doing. They've been an elite defense
all year. Their offense has been the issue in this stretch.
Steph is playing by far the best offense he's played
all year, and Jimmy Butler has helped unlock a bunch
of different dimensions to the offense that weren't there in
the past. So like, on the one hand, like, do
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I know for sure how good Golden State is compared
to the best teams in the league. No, I don't.
I Also, I'm not sure we're gonna find out until
we get to the playoffs. They've got five games left
against the upper tier in the Western Conference. They've got
two against Denver, one against Monday night. We're covering that
game live. This mail bag is being recorded on Monday,
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so you guys will already know the result by then.
But there's one more against Denver, a game against the Lakers,
a game against the Rockets, and a game against the Grizzlies.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Those will be.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Opportunities for us to learn more. But like again, like
the teams that I view as the as the primary
barriers for any team's success in this league are the
Thunder out West and the Calves and Celtics out East,
and we're just not going to get to see it.
But at the same time, again, even though some of
that is being left up to you know, hypothesis from us,
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there's a huge part of it that's like, let's not
overthink it. The Warriors have beat the Thunder twice this year.
They've beat the Celtics this year. In those games, it
was a combination of elite defense and Steph rising to
the occasion and everybody playing well off of it, and
so like, while there is a good amount of hypothesis here,
I think it's my personal hypothesis would be that that
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team is one of the top tier teams in the
Western Conference. Like I think they're at least on the
same level as Denver and the Lakers, and probably closer
to the Thunder than we're willing to admit. At a
certain point, you just don't want to overthink it elite defense,
Steph Curry, Jimmy Butler, Like, I don't need to do
a ton of second guessing whether or not that team
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is capable of doing damage in the Western Conference. Next question,
I'm a firm believer that the twenty twenty one Lakers
would have repeated if Lebron and ad were healthy. What
do you think? Also, you have the best basketball content
out there keeping up. Thank you so much for the
kind words. So I think so, hey, really is this simple? Like,
do you think that the twenty twenty one Milwaukee Bucks
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or the twenty twenty one Phoenix Suns, or the Atlanta
Hawks or the Clippers of that Kawhi Leonard those were
literally the final four teams that year as all of
the elite teams that were great in the previous year
broke down from all of the extra wear and tear
that they took on from the bubble, And so like
they're legitimate champions. The twenty twenty one Milwaukee Bucks, I
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never want to go back and try to try to
take away credit or anything like that. But who do
I think was the best team that year? I think
it was the Lakers because right before Solomon Hill dived
dove into Lebron's leg, he was playing like one of
the best players in the league when they were. When
Lebron was injured, Ad was injured and the team was
out of rhythm, they still took a two to one
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lead on the Phoenix Suns before Ad pulled his scroin muscle.
So yeah, I think they probably would have repeated. But again,
everyone that year that played in that playoff run broke down,
like everyone broke down, and so at a certain point,
like even if they beat the Suns team they could
have broken down in a later series. It just would
have been really difficult to turn around and win a
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championship after what happened in that bubble season? Are the
Denver Nuggets still contenders? Based on the recent performances against
good teams? Yoki seems to be playing well, but his
counterparts are having a lot of issues, be it with
injuries or finishing plays. Thank you, Jason for your awesome insight.
As always, I appreciate it. So I'm having a really,
really hard time making a read on this Denver Nuggets
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team because, on the one hand, it's abundantly clear as
you're watching them that they're leaving a lot in reserve,
Like it doesn't take a rocket scientist to tell you
that they're capable of beating the Washington Wizards or winning
comfortably against an Austin Reeves led Lakers team that's missing
four of their five starters. The tricky thing is they
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are practicing playing bad basketball. They are using these games
in the regular season to play a brand of basketball
that will get them beat. And so on one hand,
I look at it like Nikole Jokic tons of continuity.
We have seen these guys play better defense in the past.
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What if they get to April and it's like Jokic
starts defending better in ball screens and being more active
with his hands. Aaron Gordon's there, unhealthy and doing a
really nice job as a lone man cleaning things up.
Christian Brown, Peyton Watson are out there as wrecking balls.
They're just doing their job, and suddenly it comes together.
Yokics plays like the best player in the world. The
offense continues to look super smooth as they have all
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that continuity. I'm not gonna sit here and say that's
not a potential outcome, if, of course it is. But
NBA history tells us that when you practice playing bad
basketball in the regular season, like being a bottom ten
defense the way that the Denver Nuggets are, NBA history
tells us that team gets beat. So like, I don't
know what to make of it, and like I see
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Denver Nuggets fans getting frustrated, I don't blame them like this,
this roster already has its shortcomings. So if there was
an opportunity for you, for you to win the title,
it would be by practicing playing the sharpest and best
possible basketball that you can play. So, like, everything in
my brain is screaming, this Denver team can't do it
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because they're just missing these basic checkpoints on the way.
But there's always a part of like my basketball heart
that says, don't write off Jokic, Murray, Michael Porter Junior,
and Aaron Gordon in a playoff series. So to do
with that bit of information, which you will next question
who is better? A lot of like little nitty gritty
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Lakers Warriors questions, like a head to head Lakers Warriors
questions today, which I think are fascinating. Who is better
Austin Reeves or Brandon Pajemski. They're very different types of players.
So for instance, like Austin Reeves just averaged thirty one,
seven and seven over his last three games, Brandon Pajemski
is not capable of that. So, like, there's no doubt
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that Austin is a substantially better offensive player. But Brandon
Pajemski has turned into a very reliable guard defender in
this league who's been doing a really nice job pressuring
the ball and playing a very important role in the
Warriors defensive scheme. And he's also been a productive cog
in the offensive system as kind of like a second
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side action guy and like a connective playmaker.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Right.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
So to put that into a more concise statement, I
would say that Austin is better than Pods in my opinion,
But the gap smaller than the.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Statistical performance would lead you to believe.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Have you noticed any difference in Luca's ability to beat
people off the ball? Is it just me or has
he struggled a bit more in that department? And are
you concerned about it? I'm not concerned about that at
all whatsoever. Uh, Luca had a move against KD in
the early first quarter yesterday. It was the one that
put them up twenty to nine, where he chained together
like a aggressive move to the left, a counter moved
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to the right, and then a pullback dribble and like
stopped on a dime on the pullback dribble. Like it
literally looked like someone hit like pause and rewind instantaneously,
like he was moving forward and suddenly he was moving backwards.
It was very similar to the movie hit Rudy Gobert
with in the Western Conference Finals game winner in Game two,
And on that move, I was like, oh, like, Luca's
really starting to get his legs back underneath him.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Now.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
He did have a pretty bad ankle sprain yesterday and
who knows what that means for his mobility and the
big picture. But honestly, to take to go even deeper
to the root of your question, do I have concern
about Luca's ability to beat people off the ball even
when he was in terrible shape in the early Lakers games.
He's just so big and strong, and he's just so
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good at getting defenders to lean the wrong way. With
his fakes that even when he was out of shape,
he was rumbling his way downhill towards the rim. Like
Luca's ability to get the ball into the paint is
such an incredible asset in one of the most underrated
parts of his game because it's super resilient. It's a
trait that works against just about everybody in just about
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every scheme except for a blitz, which now you're playing
four on three out of anyway. Thanks question, how do
you perceive Steph Curry's two finals that he won with
Kevin Durant on the roster. Seems to me the larger
NBA fan base and analysts write them off because Steph
didn't win Finals MVP, although he played at an extremely
high level. How did they factor into his legacy? In
your view? This is a super complex and loaded question.
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I don't think anybody cares necessarily that he didn't win
Finals MVP. I've seen like some lowbrow stuff, like just
like trolls kind of focusing on that sort of thing.
I do think that there's some reality to the basic
fact that every NBA championship has a different level of
resonence with people. This goes like, let's just go back
through through recent NBA history, Like, there's not a lot
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of people that are profoundly moved by the twenty twenty
four Celtics, who have five players who catch over thirty
million dollars a year on the open market, beating the
Pacers and the injury ravaged Pacers and the injury ravaged
Calves along the way to winning a title against a
good Western Conference team, but a team, a Western Conference
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team that nobody thought was the best Western Conference team
last year.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Like that title still a title.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
They're not gonna get a lot of casual fans that
are like, oh, my goodness, this is the most impressive
thing anyone's ever done. Same sort of thing goes with
the Denver Nuggets if you look through like they were
considered one of the better teams in the league, but
they faced a lot of like semi limited teams along
the way, and then they didn't have to face the
team out of the Eastern Conference that everybody feared, which
was the Boston Celtics or the Milwaukee Bucks. And so
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it has a certain amount of like do just a
little bit of a weird kind of like public perception
of that title. Twenty twenty two when Steph Curry beat
that Celtics team and that team didn't have a secondary star. Like,
of all of the championships Steph won, that is by
far the most resident. That is the championship that when
you look back, like that's the one that's unassailable. That's
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the one that even the people that don't like Steph
that much are like, holy shit, that was crazy, Like
down two to one on the road in Boston, hitting
all those crazy, insane shots he did to drop a
forty piece to win the title, like that was crazy, right,
Like even I could say the same thing in reverse
about Lebron, Like Lebron's twenty twenty title when he won
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with Anthony Davis, that title is the least resonant of
the four that Lebron won. If you go back to
twenty sixteen, that was Lebron's title. That was similar to
the Steph one in twenty twenty three, where it's like,
that's unassailable, you can't shit on that. That is the accomplishment,
that is the defining moment of Lebron's career. That twenty
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twenty titles still championship, it still counts in the leisure
but it's not the one that's going to resonate for
the length of time that we talk about Lebron James
the way that that twenty sixteen title does, or the
twenty thirteen when they're down three to two in the
finals and they have to go to seven games in
the Eastern Conference Finals and the NBA Finals, those resonate
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differently with Steph as you look back to the twenty
seventeen finals. Here's the simplest way that I could put
it to you, guys. In twenty seventeen, before the season
and in twenty eighteen, before the season, the Warriors were
so favored over the field that before the season started,
so in early October, the sports books had them as
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a negative odds favorite to win the title, meaning if
you bet a dollar in October for the Warriors to
win the title, you were gonna win less than a dollar.
That is how clearly more talented that team was than
anyone else in the league. Doesn't mean they're not champions,
doesn't mean those titles don't count, but yeah, like think
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about what think about a bet you've placed recently on
DraftKings where you received negative odds, and like, think about
how you expected that team to win, or you expected
that player to hit those points, rebounds, assists, score a touchdown,
whatever it was, you expected it with the negative odds.
That's how everyone felt about those Warriors teams before we
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even started playing basketball. So at a certain point, I
do think it's worth at least acknowledging that those titles
carry a different level of weight in the court of
public opinion. But it doesn't change the fact that at
the time I still believed Steph was one of the
greatest players in NBA history, who was more than good
enough to be the best player in a champmpionship team,
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thus a champion and should be respected as such. So
on and so forth for KD, Like to me, I
didn't need to see KD go to the Warriors in
twenty seventeen to know that he could be a champion.
He was playing with Russell Westbrook, who was like, you know,
like a kind of a hectic basketball player that made
a lot of big mistakes in big spots, and his
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team didn't have a lot of offensive talent around him. Was
a very big, bruising type of team. I'm not trying
to say that, you know, KD doesn't share some blame
for the failures of the thunder beforehand. But I knew
in twenty fourteen that KD was good enough to be
a champion and thus a championship level player. He just
hadn't done it yet. And so like, like that's the thing.
It shouldn't take us seeing Steph in twenty twenty four
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or twenty twenty two winning a title against long odds
for us to acknowledge that he's a champion. It shouldn't
take Lebron winning a title in twenty sixteen against long
odds for us to acknowledge that he's a champion type
that type of all time great. But it's just kind
of of unfortunately the way that it works in the
court of public opinion. To put it simply, just like
anytime you watch anybody do everything or anything, the degree
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of difficulty matters and how impressed you are. I watched
John Mayer once at the Sphere play an entire two
shows missing his index finger on his fretting hand, and
that was far more impressive than anything I've ever seen
him do because of the degree of difficulty it is.
It is just a natural part of the way that
we process information. So yeah, like to me, they were
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champions at championships. To me, they you know, kind of
add to the story of Steph Curry's career. But like
when someone asks me to explain to them, tell me
about Steph Curry twenty years from now. Tell me about
Steph Curry, Tell me about why he was as good
as he was, tell me about his greatest accomplishments. I'm
probably not going to talk a ton about twenty seventeen
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in twenty eighteen because there was very little in the
way of adversity in those seasons. Like I've said this
before on the record, everyone says, oh, if Chris Paul
didn't get hurt, they might have lost in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I don't feel that way. I think that the Warriors.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
And must win games in Game six and Game seven
would have got it done. I think that lineup that
Steph kd Klay Thompson at the peak of his powers,
Draymond Green, best defensive player in the league, Andre Gudala
is still good and mobile at that point, that was
the best five man lineup that has ever been constructed
on a normal basketball team, not counting like All Star
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teams or Team USA. And so that certainly is going
to play a role in their.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Ability to win a championship.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Who do you think would win in a playoff series
with the Lakers versus Warriors? Like I said, I had
a couple questions this year about specifically about Lakers versus Warriors,
or this mailbag specifically about Lakers versus Warriors. Who do
you think would win a playoff series Lakers with Warriors
with a healthy Lebron and why I think the Lakers
would win this series. There are two reasons why, in
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particular that I think the Lakers would do really well
in this particular matchup. As we saw in the Boston game,
and as I've talked about extensively, this is a Lakers
defense that has been the number one defense in the
NBA for a long time, and one of the reasons
why has been JJ Redick's game planning. They have been very,
very good at finding the guys on the floor that
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they can help off of, in using those guys as
roamers and rotators, and targeting all their defensive attention against
the skilled offensive players on the floor. Boston was uniquely
equipped to truly space. The Lakers out enforce Austin and
Luca at a guard in space and they had some issues.
And I still am concerned about the Lakers in a
Celtics particular matchup against the Warriors again. And there have
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been nights when we had a night the other day
where against the Kings where Draymond Green and Gary Payton
went you know, seven for eleven from three, and like
they might have a game like that or two in
a series against the Lakers where it ends up going
the other way. But like the Lakers have the personnel
to help the Warriors, excuse me, have the personnel that
the Lakers can help off of. And in that context,
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the Lakers have literally been the best defense in basketball
for a while. So like they have the ability to
guard Golden State in a certain way that they can
struggle against a team like Boston for instance. And then
on the other end of the floor, you're talking about
two giant matchup attacking forwards and Lebron James and Luka
Doncic that are consistently going to have two or three
guys on the floor that they can attack. There's just
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a lot of perimeter, a lack of perimeter size with
Golden State that Lebron and Luca will take advantage of
and it's like, Okay, well what if we just put
Draymond on Luca and we put Jimmy Butler on Lebron. Okay,
you have zero size on the back line. Now, who's
gonna guard Ruy? Hatchro Mura, Who's gonna guard Austin Reeves?
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Like it turn into a situation where the Lakers just
have matchup advantages all over the floor in that particular matchup.
And while yes, Steph is a problem and the Lakers
don't have a good guard defender on the roster, they
have the tools to because of Golden State's non shooters
on the floor, to consistently keep Steph in a crowd,
Whereas the Lakers can put together lineups with Austin Ruy,
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Dorian Finney Smith, Lebron, and Luca where you literally cannot
help off of anybody. And Lebron and Luke are going
to get to take their pick on which matchups they.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Want to attack.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Like, I am tempted to pick the Lakers to win
the West if they're healthy. That's how high I view
that team when they're actually put together when they're healthy.
I'm not one hundred percent sure about that yet. I'm
waiting until we get closer to the playoffs to make
my final take on that front. But like, I'm pretty
high on this Lakers team. I think they're going to
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be really, really good. Like Okasee and Boston are really
the two teams that I'm particularly worried about there, So
I would pick them against the Warriors in a playoff series.
Next question, why can't the Mavericks just stop? It's embarrassing
talking about the Patrick Dumont interview that was released the
other day. So the Patrick Dumont interview, you guys saw
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that when he gave that long spiel. There's a bunch
of really problematic stuff in that interview. There's one where
he was like, yeah, I have you running the MAVs
as like a family operation. It's something I do with
my wife and kids. Immediately I'm like, boom, you're setting
yourself up for failure because it's like like that, I've
seen this. This happens a lot more in the NBA
than you think. This is why it's so ridiculous that
everyone's hyper critical of Lebron forgetting his kid a end
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of the bench spot on the Los Angeles Lakers. Is like,
there are many franchises around the league that are rampant
with nepotism, like rampant with it. There are front offices
that I won't get into it, but there are multiple
front offices where it's like a known commodity around the
league that they let incompetent people make decisions because they're
related to the owners. Like it is, it is a
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problem around the entire league. But when I saw that
from Patrick Demona, I was like, dude, like, you're not
supposed to say the quiet part out loud, Like I
let my wife and kids and my mother in law
make these big picture decisions about our basketball team. That's
just foolishness. Let basketball experts who have dedicated their life
to understanding the game of basketball make your basketball decisions.
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If you're not interested in doing that, you're not a
serious team. The second piece of it was that long
drawn out expression of why they traded Luca, And there
wasn't a ton of substance offered in there, But one
of the big things that he kept harping on was
the idea that they weren't close. You know, we felt
like we weren't close in the finals, and then we
get into the regular season and all these other teams
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are better and blah blah, blah blah. And the part
that bothered me about that is, you guys, remember how
I was talking about the Mavericks in the early part
of the season. I viewed them as the most talented
roster in the Western Conference overall when Luca was healthy,
Like when I looked at that roster as a roster
that can cause some serious problems when Luca was healthy,
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they were competitive all year without Luca. And so it's
one of those things where like any take he had,
as it pertains to oh, the rest of the league
got better. You added Klay Thompson, you added Naji Marshall,
you brought in a bunch of ball handling. You addressed
some specific problems that you had last year.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
PJ.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Washington was shooting better on above the break threes after
being terrible on him last year in the postseason, Like
a lot of specific things were tilting towards this is
gonna work when Luca comes back. And so like, here's
the thing, there is no case for trading Luca the
way they did. So what these people need to do
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is get the hell out of the media and just go.
If you have some ulterior motive, whether it's moving the
team to a different city, or maybe you just hate
Lucas as a personal beef. Whatever the issue is, stop
talking about it because when you talk about it, you
guys just sound like imbeciles, every single one of you.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
There's no good take.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
There's no rationale that holds up for shipping off a
twenty five year old prospect who's already one of the
greatest players in the history of the league in that
span of his career and who continued to trend forward.
It was completely acidine. There's no way around it. And honestly,
I just feel really bad for MAVs fans, and I'm
with you, guys. Why can't the Mavericks just stop? I agree,
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they need to just stop. What's done is done. Stop
the media tour. You don't sound savvy explaining to everybody
how you run your team and why you got rid
of Luca. You look like an imbecile. Last question before
we get out of here, when did you start experiencing
growth spurts and how painful was it if it was.
I grew a ton in high school. I was five
foot ten as a freshman, and between my freshman year
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and my junior year, I skyrocketed up to six point
four or excuse me, six foot four, and then I
got up to sixty six as a senior, and it
immediately manifested in like creaky joints. I like literally used
to run around like Bambi when I was in high school.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
It was crazy.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Famously, when I was a senior, I had a breakaway
dunk against the worst team and like I was terrible
high school basketball player. I was a super late bloomer.
And we played against this team in Tucson that was
one of the lesser high schools in town. So I
finally got an opportunity to play because it was one
of the worst players on the team. And at six
foot six, I had a breakaway and I went up
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to like go dunk it, and like my knee like buckled,
and I just threw the ball into the bottom of
the rim, and thank god I didn't fall over. But
like it was about one of the most embarrassing things
that I that I can remember in my time as
a basketball player, and it was because I just grew
way too fast in such a short period of time.
There was a good amount of pain in that phase.
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And like I also had really bad acne when I
was in high school, and I actually went on acutane.
And if any of you guys have ever done any
research on accutane, it like literally dries out your joints,
so like in addition to the growth spurt stuff, I
also like my joints weren't properly lubricated because of me
using acutane, and so I was just in pain literally
all the time. But it was funny because I ended
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up like growing into my body as soon as I
got to like nineteen twenty years old, and at that
point I became like freaky athletic, like I had like
about a forty inth vertical and I remember it was
so funny. I had a buddy of mine who came
to one of my Juco games and he, you know,
he just happened to stop by. He's like, hey, man,
I want to come check out your game. He came
to sat up in the bleachers in the corner by himself,
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and we rode to the game together because we lived
in Tucson together at the time. And I had a
breakaway dunk, like a steal and a breakaway and and
I just like literally just did like a backscratcher, like
touch the ball on my shoulder blades and like chucked
it through the rim as hard as I could. And
we were in the car on the way home, and
my buddy's like looking at me, and he's like, were
you thinking about the Desert View game when you had
that fast break? And I was like, yeah, I was
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thinking about the Desert View game because it was like
every time i'd get a breakaway, I would just think
about this like horrible embarrassing moment that I had when
I was in high schoo But yeah, I just I
was a late bloomer in general, and I grew a
ton in those couple of years, and so I just
couldn't move. And then what ended up happening is I
just kind of grew into my body and then suddenly
I can move, and it ended up being like a
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strength attribute for me when I was playing basketball in college.
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Like I mentioned earlier, keep dropping mailback questions in the
YouTube comments. All right, let's talk some basketball. First question, Hello,
and thank you for the amazing content every week. My
question is about the new Warriors with Jimmy Butler. After
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the All Star Break, the Warriors had the second easiest
remaining schedule in the league. So our thirteen to one
in the games with Jimmy is it a bit inflated
and not an accurate depiction of their team. So I
think a couple of different things are true. Like, I
think it's okay to acknowledge that the Warriors have had
an easy schedule while also not overthinking what this team
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is actually capable of doing. They've been an elite defense
all year. Their offense has been the issue in this stretch.
Steph is playing by far the best offense he's played
all year, and Jimmy Butler has helped unlock a bunch
of different dimensions to the offense that weren't there in
the past. So like, on the one hand, like, do
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I know for sure how good Golden State is compared
to the best teams in the league. No, I don't.
I Also, I'm not sure we're gonna find out until
we get to the playoffs. They've got five games left
against the upper tier in the Western Conference. They've got
two against Denver, one against Monday night. We're covering that
game live. This mail bag is being recorded on Monday,
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so you guys will already know the result by then.
But there's one more against Denver, a game against the Lakers,
a game against the Rockets, and a game against the Grizzlies.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Those will be.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Opportunities for us to learn more. But like again, like
the teams that I view as the as the primary
barriers for any team's success in this league are the
Thunder out West and the Calves and Celtics out East,
and we're just not going to get to see it.
But at the same time, again, even though some of
that is being left up to you know, hypothesis from us,
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there's a huge part of it that's like, let's not
overthink it. The Warriors have beat the Thunder twice this year.
They've beat the Celtics this year. In those games, it
was a combination of elite defense and Steph rising to
the occasion and everybody playing well off of it, and
so like, while there is a good amount of hypothesis here,
I think it's my personal hypothesis would be that that
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team is one of the top tier teams in the
Western Conference. Like I think they're at least on the
same level as Denver and the Lakers, and probably closer
to the Thunder than we're willing to admit. At a
certain point, you just don't want to overthink it elite defense,
Steph Curry, Jimmy Butler, Like, I don't need to do
a ton of second guessing whether or not that team
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is capable of doing damage in the Western Conference. Next question,
I'm a firm believer that the twenty twenty one Lakers
would have repeated if Lebron and ad were healthy. What
do you think? Also, you have the best basketball content
out there keeping up. Thank you so much for the
kind words. So I think so, hey, really is this simple? Like,
do you think that the twenty twenty one Milwaukee Bucks
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or the twenty twenty one Phoenix Suns, or the Atlanta
Hawks or the Clippers of that Kawhi Leonard those were
literally the final four teams that year as all of
the elite teams that were great in the previous year
broke down from all of the extra wear and tear
that they took on from the bubble, And so like
they're legitimate champions. The twenty twenty one Milwaukee Bucks, I
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never want to go back and try to try to
take away credit or anything like that. But who do
I think was the best team that year? I think
it was the Lakers because right before Solomon Hill dived
dove into Lebron's leg, he was playing like one of
the best players in the league when they were. When
Lebron was injured, Ad was injured and the team was
out of rhythm, they still took a two to one
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lead on the Phoenix Suns before Ad pulled his scroin muscle.
So yeah, I think they probably would have repeated. But again,
everyone that year that played in that playoff run broke down,
like everyone broke down, and so at a certain point,
like even if they beat the Suns team they could
have broken down in a later series. It just would
have been really difficult to turn around and win a
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championship after what happened in that bubble season? Are the
Denver Nuggets still contenders? Based on the recent performances against
good teams? Yoki seems to be playing well, but his
counterparts are having a lot of issues, be it with
injuries or finishing plays. Thank you, Jason for your awesome insight.
As always, I appreciate it. So I'm having a really,
really hard time making a read on this Denver Nuggets
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team because, on the one hand, it's abundantly clear as
you're watching them that they're leaving a lot in reserve,
Like it doesn't take a rocket scientist to tell you
that they're capable of beating the Washington Wizards or winning
comfortably against an Austin Reeves led Lakers team that's missing
four of their five starters. The tricky thing is they
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are practicing playing bad basketball. They are using these games
in the regular season to play a brand of basketball
that will get them beat. And so on one hand,
I look at it like Nikole Jokic tons of continuity.
We have seen these guys play better defense in the past.
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What if they get to April and it's like Jokic
starts defending better in ball screens and being more active
with his hands. Aaron Gordon's there, unhealthy and doing a
really nice job as a lone man cleaning things up.
Christian Brown, Peyton Watson are out there as wrecking balls.
They're just doing their job, and suddenly it comes together.
Yokics plays like the best player in the world. The
offense continues to look super smooth as they have all
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that continuity. I'm not gonna sit here and say that's
not a potential outcome, if, of course it is. But
NBA history tells us that when you practice playing bad
basketball in the regular season, like being a bottom ten
defense the way that the Denver Nuggets are, NBA history
tells us that team gets beat. So like, I don't
know what to make of it, and like I see
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Denver Nuggets fans getting frustrated, I don't blame them like this,
this roster already has its shortcomings. So if there was
an opportunity for you, for you to win the title,
it would be by practicing playing the sharpest and best
possible basketball that you can play. So, like, everything in
my brain is screaming, this Denver team can't do it
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because they're just missing these basic checkpoints on the way.
But there's always a part of like my basketball heart
that says, don't write off Jokic, Murray, Michael Porter Junior,
and Aaron Gordon in a playoff series. So to do
with that bit of information, which you will next question
who is better? A lot of like little nitty gritty
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Lakers Warriors questions, like a head to head Lakers Warriors
questions today, which I think are fascinating. Who is better
Austin Reeves or Brandon Pajemski. They're very different types of players.
So for instance, like Austin Reeves just averaged thirty one,
seven and seven over his last three games, Brandon Pajemski
is not capable of that. So, like, there's no doubt
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that Austin is a substantially better offensive player. But Brandon
Pajemski has turned into a very reliable guard defender in
this league who's been doing a really nice job pressuring
the ball and playing a very important role in the
Warriors defensive scheme. And he's also been a productive cog
in the offensive system as kind of like a second
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side action guy and like a connective playmaker.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Right.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
So to put that into a more concise statement, I
would say that Austin is better than Pods in my opinion,
But the gap smaller than the.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Statistical performance would lead you to believe.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Have you noticed any difference in Luca's ability to beat
people off the ball? Is it just me or has
he struggled a bit more in that department? And are
you concerned about it? I'm not concerned about that at
all whatsoever. Uh, Luca had a move against KD in
the early first quarter yesterday. It was the one that
put them up twenty to nine, where he chained together
like a aggressive move to the left, a counter moved
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to the right, and then a pullback dribble and like
stopped on a dime on the pullback dribble. Like it
literally looked like someone hit like pause and rewind instantaneously,
like he was moving forward and suddenly he was moving backwards.
It was very similar to the movie hit Rudy Gobert
with in the Western Conference Finals game winner in Game two,
And on that move, I was like, oh, like, Luca's
really starting to get his legs back underneath him.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Now.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
He did have a pretty bad ankle sprain yesterday and
who knows what that means for his mobility and the
big picture. But honestly, to take to go even deeper
to the root of your question, do I have concern
about Luca's ability to beat people off the ball even
when he was in terrible shape in the early Lakers games.
He's just so big and strong, and he's just so
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good at getting defenders to lean the wrong way. With
his fakes that even when he was out of shape,
he was rumbling his way downhill towards the rim. Like
Luca's ability to get the ball into the paint is
such an incredible asset in one of the most underrated
parts of his game because it's super resilient. It's a
trait that works against just about everybody in just about
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every scheme except for a blitz, which now you're playing
four on three out of anyway. Thanks question, how do
you perceive Steph Curry's two finals that he won with
Kevin Durant on the roster. Seems to me the larger
NBA fan base and analysts write them off because Steph
didn't win Finals MVP, although he played at an extremely
high level. How did they factor into his legacy? In
your view? This is a super complex and loaded question.
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I don't think anybody cares necessarily that he didn't win
Finals MVP. I've seen like some lowbrow stuff, like just
like trolls kind of focusing on that sort of thing.
I do think that there's some reality to the basic
fact that every NBA championship has a different level of
resonence with people. This goes like, let's just go back
through through recent NBA history, Like, there's not a lot
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of people that are profoundly moved by the twenty twenty
four Celtics, who have five players who catch over thirty
million dollars a year on the open market, beating the
Pacers and the injury ravaged Pacers and the injury ravaged
Calves along the way to winning a title against a
good Western Conference team, but a team, a Western Conference
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team that nobody thought was the best Western Conference team
last year.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Like that title still a title.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
They're not gonna get a lot of casual fans that
are like, oh, my goodness, this is the most impressive
thing anyone's ever done. Same sort of thing goes with
the Denver Nuggets if you look through like they were
considered one of the better teams in the league, but
they faced a lot of like semi limited teams along
the way, and then they didn't have to face the
team out of the Eastern Conference that everybody feared, which
was the Boston Celtics or the Milwaukee Bucks. And so
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it has a certain amount of like do just a
little bit of a weird kind of like public perception
of that title. Twenty twenty two when Steph Curry beat
that Celtics team and that team didn't have a secondary star. Like,
of all of the championships Steph won, that is by
far the most resident. That is the championship that when
you look back, like that's the one that's unassailable. That's
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the one that even the people that don't like Steph
that much are like, holy shit, that was crazy, Like
down two to one on the road in Boston, hitting
all those crazy, insane shots he did to drop a
forty piece to win the title, like that was crazy, right,
Like even I could say the same thing in reverse
about Lebron, Like Lebron's twenty twenty title when he won
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with Anthony Davis, that title is the least resonant of
the four that Lebron won. If you go back to
twenty sixteen, that was Lebron's title. That was similar to
the Steph one in twenty twenty three, where it's like,
that's unassailable, you can't shit on that. That is the accomplishment,
that is the defining moment of Lebron's career. That twenty
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twenty titles still championship, it still counts in the leisure
but it's not the one that's going to resonate for
the length of time that we talk about Lebron James
the way that that twenty sixteen title does, or the
twenty thirteen when they're down three to two in the
finals and they have to go to seven games in
the Eastern Conference Finals and the NBA Finals, those resonate
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differently with Steph as you look back to the twenty
seventeen finals. Here's the simplest way that I could put
it to you, guys. In twenty seventeen, before the season
and in twenty eighteen, before the season, the Warriors were
so favored over the field that before the season started,
so in early October, the sports books had them as
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a negative odds favorite to win the title, meaning if
you bet a dollar in October for the Warriors to
win the title, you were gonna win less than a dollar.
That is how clearly more talented that team was than
anyone else in the league. Doesn't mean they're not champions,
doesn't mean those titles don't count, but yeah, like think
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about what think about a bet you've placed recently on
DraftKings where you received negative odds, and like, think about
how you expected that team to win, or you expected
that player to hit those points, rebounds, assists, score a touchdown,
whatever it was, you expected it with the negative odds.
That's how everyone felt about those Warriors teams before we
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even started playing basketball. So at a certain point, I
do think it's worth at least acknowledging that those titles
carry a different level of weight in the court of
public opinion. But it doesn't change the fact that at
the time I still believed Steph was one of the
greatest players in NBA history, who was more than good
enough to be the best player in a champmpionship team,
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thus a champion and should be respected as such. So
on and so forth for KD, Like to me, I
didn't need to see KD go to the Warriors in
twenty seventeen to know that he could be a champion.
He was playing with Russell Westbrook, who was like, you know,
like a kind of a hectic basketball player that made
a lot of big mistakes in big spots, and his
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team didn't have a lot of offensive talent around him. Was
a very big, bruising type of team. I'm not trying
to say that, you know, KD doesn't share some blame
for the failures of the thunder beforehand. But I knew
in twenty fourteen that KD was good enough to be
a champion and thus a championship level player. He just
hadn't done it yet. And so like, like that's the thing.
It shouldn't take us seeing Steph in twenty twenty four
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or twenty twenty two winning a title against long odds
for us to acknowledge that he's a champion. It shouldn't
take Lebron winning a title in twenty sixteen against long
odds for us to acknowledge that he's a champion type
that type of all time great. But it's just kind
of of unfortunately the way that it works in the
court of public opinion. To put it simply, just like
anytime you watch anybody do everything or anything, the degree
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of difficulty matters and how impressed you are. I watched
John Mayer once at the Sphere play an entire two
shows missing his index finger on his fretting hand, and
that was far more impressive than anything I've ever seen
him do because of the degree of difficulty it is.
It is just a natural part of the way that
we process information. So yeah, like to me, they were
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champions at championships. To me, they you know, kind of
add to the story of Steph Curry's career. But like
when someone asks me to explain to them, tell me
about Steph Curry twenty years from now. Tell me about
Steph Curry, Tell me about why he was as good
as he was, tell me about his greatest accomplishments. I'm
probably not going to talk a ton about twenty seventeen
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in twenty eighteen because there was very little in the
way of adversity in those seasons. Like I've said this
before on the record, everyone says, oh, if Chris Paul
didn't get hurt, they might have lost in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I don't feel that way. I think that the Warriors.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
And must win games in Game six and Game seven
would have got it done. I think that lineup that
Steph kd Klay Thompson at the peak of his powers,
Draymond Green, best defensive player in the league, Andre Gudala
is still good and mobile at that point, that was
the best five man lineup that has ever been constructed
on a normal basketball team, not counting like All Star
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teams or Team USA. And so that certainly is going
to play a role in their.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Ability to win a championship.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Who do you think would win in a playoff series
with the Lakers versus Warriors? Like I said, I had
a couple questions this year about specifically about Lakers versus Warriors,
or this mailbag specifically about Lakers versus Warriors. Who do
you think would win a playoff series Lakers with Warriors
with a healthy Lebron and why I think the Lakers
would win this series. There are two reasons why, in
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particular that I think the Lakers would do really well
in this particular matchup. As we saw in the Boston game,
and as I've talked about extensively, this is a Lakers
defense that has been the number one defense in the
NBA for a long time, and one of the reasons
why has been JJ Redick's game planning. They have been very,
very good at finding the guys on the floor that
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they can help off of, in using those guys as
roamers and rotators, and targeting all their defensive attention against
the skilled offensive players on the floor. Boston was uniquely
equipped to truly space. The Lakers out enforce Austin and
Luca at a guard in space and they had some issues.
And I still am concerned about the Lakers in a
Celtics particular matchup against the Warriors again. And there have
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been nights when we had a night the other day
where against the Kings where Draymond Green and Gary Payton
went you know, seven for eleven from three, and like
they might have a game like that or two in
a series against the Lakers where it ends up going
the other way. But like the Lakers have the personnel
to help the Warriors, excuse me, have the personnel that
the Lakers can help off of. And in that context,
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the Lakers have literally been the best defense in basketball
for a while. So like they have the ability to
guard Golden State in a certain way that they can
struggle against a team like Boston for instance. And then
on the other end of the floor, you're talking about
two giant matchup attacking forwards and Lebron James and Luka
Doncic that are consistently going to have two or three
guys on the floor that they can attack. There's just
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a lot of perimeter, a lack of perimeter size with
Golden State that Lebron and Luca will take advantage of
and it's like, Okay, well what if we just put
Draymond on Luca and we put Jimmy Butler on Lebron. Okay,
you have zero size on the back line. Now, who's
gonna guard Ruy? Hatchro Mura, Who's gonna guard Austin Reeves?
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Like it turn into a situation where the Lakers just
have matchup advantages all over the floor in that particular matchup.
And while yes, Steph is a problem and the Lakers
don't have a good guard defender on the roster, they
have the tools to because of Golden State's non shooters
on the floor, to consistently keep Steph in a crowd,
Whereas the Lakers can put together lineups with Austin Ruy,
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Dorian Finney Smith, Lebron, and Luca where you literally cannot
help off of anybody. And Lebron and Luke are going
to get to take their pick on which matchups they.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Want to attack.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Like, I am tempted to pick the Lakers to win
the West if they're healthy. That's how high I view
that team when they're actually put together when they're healthy.
I'm not one hundred percent sure about that yet. I'm
waiting until we get closer to the playoffs to make
my final take on that front. But like, I'm pretty
high on this Lakers team. I think they're going to
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be really, really good. Like Okasee and Boston are really
the two teams that I'm particularly worried about there, So
I would pick them against the Warriors in a playoff series.
Next question, why can't the Mavericks just stop? It's embarrassing
talking about the Patrick Dumont interview that was released the
other day. So the Patrick Dumont interview, you guys saw
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that when he gave that long spiel. There's a bunch
of really problematic stuff in that interview. There's one where
he was like, yeah, I have you running the MAVs
as like a family operation. It's something I do with
my wife and kids. Immediately I'm like, boom, you're setting
yourself up for failure because it's like like that, I've
seen this. This happens a lot more in the NBA
than you think. This is why it's so ridiculous that
everyone's hyper critical of Lebron forgetting his kid a end
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of the bench spot on the Los Angeles Lakers. Is like,
there are many franchises around the league that are rampant
with nepotism, like rampant with it. There are front offices
that I won't get into it, but there are multiple
front offices where it's like a known commodity around the
league that they let incompetent people make decisions because they're
related to the owners. Like it is, it is a
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problem around the entire league. But when I saw that
from Patrick Demona, I was like, dude, like, you're not
supposed to say the quiet part out loud, Like I
let my wife and kids and my mother in law
make these big picture decisions about our basketball team. That's
just foolishness. Let basketball experts who have dedicated their life
to understanding the game of basketball make your basketball decisions.
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If you're not interested in doing that, you're not a
serious team. The second piece of it was that long
drawn out expression of why they traded Luca, And there
wasn't a ton of substance offered in there, But one
of the big things that he kept harping on was
the idea that they weren't close. You know, we felt
like we weren't close in the finals, and then we
get into the regular season and all these other teams
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are better and blah blah, blah blah. And the part
that bothered me about that is, you guys, remember how
I was talking about the Mavericks in the early part
of the season. I viewed them as the most talented
roster in the Western Conference overall when Luca was healthy,
Like when I looked at that roster as a roster
that can cause some serious problems when Luca was healthy,
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they were competitive all year without Luca. And so it's
one of those things where like any take he had,
as it pertains to oh, the rest of the league
got better. You added Klay Thompson, you added Naji Marshall,
you brought in a bunch of ball handling. You addressed
some specific problems that you had last year.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
PJ.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Washington was shooting better on above the break threes after
being terrible on him last year in the postseason, Like
a lot of specific things were tilting towards this is
gonna work when Luca comes back. And so like, here's
the thing, there is no case for trading Luca the
way they did. So what these people need to do
(24:43):
is get the hell out of the media and just go.
If you have some ulterior motive, whether it's moving the
team to a different city, or maybe you just hate
Lucas as a personal beef. Whatever the issue is, stop
talking about it because when you talk about it, you
guys just sound like imbeciles, every single one of you.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
There's no good take.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
There's no rationale that holds up for shipping off a
twenty five year old prospect who's already one of the
greatest players in the history of the league in that
span of his career and who continued to trend forward.
It was completely acidine. There's no way around it. And honestly,
I just feel really bad for MAVs fans, and I'm
with you, guys. Why can't the Mavericks just stop? I agree,
(25:26):
they need to just stop. What's done is done. Stop
the media tour. You don't sound savvy explaining to everybody
how you run your team and why you got rid
of Luca. You look like an imbecile. Last question before
we get out of here, when did you start experiencing
growth spurts and how painful was it if it was.
I grew a ton in high school. I was five
foot ten as a freshman, and between my freshman year
(25:50):
and my junior year, I skyrocketed up to six point
four or excuse me, six foot four, and then I
got up to sixty six as a senior, and it
immediately manifested in like creaky joints. I like literally used
to run around like Bambi when I was in high school.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
It was crazy.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Famously, when I was a senior, I had a breakaway
dunk against the worst team and like I was terrible
high school basketball player. I was a super late bloomer.
And we played against this team in Tucson that was
one of the lesser high schools in town. So I
finally got an opportunity to play because it was one
of the worst players on the team. And at six
foot six, I had a breakaway and I went up
(26:26):
to like go dunk it, and like my knee like buckled,
and I just threw the ball into the bottom of
the rim, and thank god I didn't fall over. But
like it was about one of the most embarrassing things
that I that I can remember in my time as
a basketball player, and it was because I just grew
way too fast in such a short period of time.
There was a good amount of pain in that phase.
(26:47):
And like I also had really bad acne when I
was in high school, and I actually went on acutane.
And if any of you guys have ever done any
research on accutane, it like literally dries out your joints,
so like in addition to the growth spurt stuff, I
also like my joints weren't properly lubricated because of me
using acutane, and so I was just in pain literally
all the time. But it was funny because I ended
(27:08):
up like growing into my body as soon as I
got to like nineteen twenty years old, and at that
point I became like freaky athletic, like I had like
about a forty inth vertical and I remember it was
so funny. I had a buddy of mine who came
to one of my Juco games and he, you know,
he just happened to stop by. He's like, hey, man,
I want to come check out your game. He came
to sat up in the bleachers in the corner by himself,
(27:30):
and we rode to the game together because we lived
in Tucson together at the time. And I had a
breakaway dunk, like a steal and a breakaway and and
I just like literally just did like a backscratcher, like
touch the ball on my shoulder blades and like chucked
it through the rim as hard as I could. And
we were in the car on the way home, and
my buddy's like looking at me, and he's like, were
you thinking about the Desert View game when you had
that fast break? And I was like, yeah, I was
(27:51):
thinking about the Desert View game because it was like
every time i'd get a breakaway, I would just think
about this like horrible embarrassing moment that I had when
I was in high schoo But yeah, I just I
was a late bloomer in general, and I grew a
ton in those couple of years, and so I just
couldn't move. And then what ended up happening is I
just kind of grew into my body and then suddenly
I can move, and it ended up being like a
(28:11):
strength attribute for me when I was playing basketball in college.
All right, guys, It's all I have for today is
always to sincerely appreciate you guys for supporting me and
supporting the show, the volume.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
What's up guys?
Speaker 1 (28:24):
As always, I appreciate you for listening to and supporting
OOPS tonight. It would actually be really helpful for us,
if you guys would take a second and leave a
rating and a review. As always, I appreciate you guys
supporting us, but if you could take a minute to
do that, I'd really appreciate it.
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