Jenkins and Jonez - Love Is Blind Season 7, Episodes 7-9 Reaction

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Welcome to Jagnison Jones on the Volume podcast Network. It
is Thursday, October the tenth, and it is our Love
Is Blind Episode seven through nine recap a big episode
wide spoiler alert for anyone who has not watched the
latest drop of Love is Blind yet, But obviously everything
we're going to be discussing from this point.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Forward is a spoiler.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
We will be doing another recap episode next Thursday after
the next drop, which is Tyler was pointing out in
our group chat, looks like it's gonna be at least
a hum Dinger, possibly also a.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Doozy, maybe maybe even a hoot and Nanny the Triple Crown.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
It might be the Triple Crowd as always Jakinson Jones
hosted by Dragonfly Jones and Tyler.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Everybody have the gun the.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
Jethro Jenkins A K. John, I'm guardy b A k A.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Mike, mother fucking Mike.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
Got my jasmine green tea? You know, ready to talk
about ready to talk about our show with the Tellers.
We're previous always by the lovely and talented Jackson Stephon
By and the equally talented, equally Lovely, although he has
not seen the most the two most recent episodes.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Josh Rodriguez, how are you doing? How you're doing?

Speaker 4 (02:50):
You're just gonna let it. We're just gonna spoil the
ship out of the whole.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Thing for you. It's one episode. I saw, just one episode.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
Okay, okay, all right, well this is time to pass
the uh uh. This sticks over to Tyler, who is
our Love is Blind?

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Uh I gotta come up with the word. God, damn it.
This is my passion project. All right there.

Speaker 5 (03:11):
I will die for this Love Is Blind ship.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
Can you show people your notes? Like, just hold them up, couple, man,
ready to go, my couple out this motherfucker like two
and a half of notes you're making my pause.

Speaker 5 (03:29):
I do rewind it because I'm like, hold, did that
motherfucker really say.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Like what what if summer say.

Speaker 5 (03:35):
Somebody be doing with me, someone be pointing out ship
that might have slipped.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Said she wants you to see school with the rewind.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
Oh wow, that's I cannot rewind ship when I'm watching
it with That's a real for whatever reason, that really
drives her crazy.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
That would be like she's probably like, bro, like she
knew what was coming before it actually happens, and.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
Something super funny will happen, and I'll click it back
and I'll just hear the like.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
You thank her after you heard that. I appreciate you.

Speaker 5 (04:10):
Yeah, somebody ride in shackle you man.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
That's she's my assistant coach in the film room.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Dog. Did you see that.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
She got the laser pointer on its broken cover?

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Is right here?

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Showed me when the safety is a cheating down when
I misseding this show. Okay, so ah, I got a
little spicy with this drop. Okay, So there's two couples here.
We we're gonna that that where shit got really spicy
for him. So we're gonna open with one, We're gonna
end with one, right, Okay, the first one. We're gonna
open with Stephen and Monica. And okay, so Stephen and Monica,

(04:51):
like we saw how ship was starting to kind of
turn south with him, where Monica was like, bro, you
just don't shut up, like, can't I get a motherfucker learning,
And it picks up where they're outside they're having lunch
and Monica talks about how, you know, you mentioned in
the pods how you would always get me flowers and
you haven't gotten me flowers yet, And a part of

(05:14):
me was was I was a bit torn with that,
right because for what I'm like, bro, y'all learn fucking Mexico,
like like you know, saying get a man some time,
you know what I'm saying. But also a part of
me respected that because it's like, you know, on this five,
we're we're big proponents of tell people the way you
want to be loved, and Monica was, you know, that
was clear communication, regardless of how annoying it might have been.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
I did not suck with her. I did not fuck
with her.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
After I was like, I get this woman off my
fucking that's a lot.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Of flower flower, flower.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Flowers, Like, what's going on with these flowers? You know,
bigger than Steven nigga.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
At the same time, that's some ship Steven said he
would do right, like like, how how much can we fall?

Speaker 5 (05:54):
Yeah, you know, I was speaking hypothetically on that.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
That's so ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
In particular, has traded Jose to spend eight dollars, bitch,
Like what are we doing?

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Right? But yeah and so and so.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
You know, they had that moment, they had that that
discussion where where basically, you know, Monica is just letting
Stephen know again, Bro, you're phoning a bit short here,
and here's where you're falling a bit short here, and
Steven does the whole yeah you know, blah blah blah,
I'm gonna do better better, which has been kind of
a recurring thing with them lately.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
Right, The only interjection I want to make before, because
there's so much stuff I know you're gonna talk about
with them, is I feel I do feel like the
language of progressive like psychiatry, has become a little bit
of a mask for people just being shitty people sometimes
and I do feel like that happens with the love
language stuff sometimes. Where she was like she's the one
that killed me. Was when she said gifts are the

(06:44):
third thing. She was like, I need words of affirmation,
I need whatever the other thing was. If we're just
gonna list every way, then it kind of sounds like
you just need to be and like and for her
response to them him clearly communicating, okay, because of the
financial upbringing I had, buying lots of stuff for people

(07:05):
is not how I express things.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
And her response to that was not understanding at all.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
It was I would never let my financial upbringing prevent
us from growing as a couple.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Or have you heard of Louis Baton, which is like.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Who is that? He is he a big deal?

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Like nigga, Like what are you doing? Your expectations are
not you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (07:25):
That's unfair. Yeah, Baton doesn't make the sex toy shit.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Bro, he would have heard about that, but yeah, it's
just you know, their dynamic there. It just shows how
I feel like so many I feel like, how so
many relationships humble because Steven's like, well, this is not
a big deal to me, Why does it need to
be a big deal to you.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Know, that's not how it works. Bro.

Speaker 5 (07:51):
If it's a big deal to her, make it a
big deal to you.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
You know what I'm saying, if you truly care about her,
because like Summer likes gifts and ship. I don't give
a fuck about gifts, but I know she likes, so
I get her gets like It's that fucking simple.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
But anyway, but just find somebody that kind of matches
up with you, you know what I'm saying, Like that
can be done as well, Like if you're not comfortable
spending that type of bread and she wants Louis Vauton shit,
or she wants a bunch of shit and you're not that, hey,
that might.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Not be the person.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Like, there's ways to figure that out rather than like,
you know, pretending, you know.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
What I mean.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Monica made it a point, I'm not really tripping off
designer shit. Just show me that you you're thinking about me.
Just binding shit to show me that you're thinking about.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
But then she brings up Louis Vauton and fucking like, nigga,
this is like thirteen hundred dollars, he ain't even heard of.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
The motherfucker's like he's a big deal. This motherfucker. You know,
look at this nigga. Man, he was lying.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
He said he never heard of Louis Vita. So let's
be let's start there was lying potently Louis Vauton, dog.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
I mean, I don't know the nigga didn't know he
was a nigga. You feel me like that type of
motherfucker never bought Italian black man, nigga. That's the type
of nigga that don't know Louis this dog.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
But yeah, so okay, So then we have that moment,
right and and it's it's it's the same old story.
They work past it, you know, get all love w
blah blah blah. Then we have the dinner that comes
up where you know, all the couples are reuniting. There's
a whole little moment where there's fireworks going off, and
you know, all the girls are watching the fireworks. A
few of the ladies, you know, fiances are with him,
and Steven and Garrett are talking, and Monica asked Stephen

(09:25):
to come watch.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
The fireworks for her. Right.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
See, like I said, you got to give Monica her
credit because she communicates clearly, regardless of how annoying she is.
And then you know, Stephen just got lost in conversational
Garrett didn't come to see her. The fireworks are over, Monica
comes back and you know, says the little passive aggressive
that was so romantic, thanks for watching the fireworks with me,
which is annoying, Like I said, annoying, annoying, as annoying
as fuck. But bro, she communicated she wanted that man

(09:50):
to watch fireworks with him. He didn't, and she came
back and do that shit in his face, right, Like
I said, you cannot say that because so many times
I feel like, speaking from my experience, I have been
in the dark about ship that a woman I was
dealing with wanted, and I get in trouble for not
reading minds.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
But Monica does not want you to read her mind.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
She's telling you what she's telling Stephen what she wants,
and Stephen is just fumbling. Bro, you know what I'm saying,
regardless of how annoying it is, because I was, like,
like I said, I was, I was. I was watching
it like, oh god, she's annoying as fuck. But the
paper trail is there, she's covering her.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
You know what.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
I like, there's a downside of being in a relationship
with the phrase per my last email.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
But at least you're not being asked.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Exactly, but that's exactly the email is there. And then okay,
that's not the energy you want, but go ahead. Yeah, yeah,
so you know, and and and and Stephen Jamie look
looks like he feels bad about that, right, And he
goes over and he tries to make it.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
He looks scared.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
He looks like, yeah, yeah, there was that moment he
was sitting on the chair like, oh ship, I might
have really fucked this up. I keep sucking up time
after time. There was that moment for sure. But then
he goes back when they're all calm, you know, at
the table, and he's talking and you know, he's talking
about how you know, I apologize. Me and Garrett were
deep in conversation, and he was like Garrett's mind just

(11:08):
process his things a bit differently to where he takes
the place here.

Speaker 5 (11:12):
It was, right, It was a weirdess conversation.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
It gets even weirder because then the motherfucker's like, and
now that you know we're kind of like, you know,
internet famous, they're gonna be, you know, women in our
DMS asking to suck my dick, and I'm like, whoa
we get here?

Speaker 2 (11:26):
And that's a lot of said She was like, how
did we get here?

Speaker 3 (11:29):
Mike Shark didn't let you rewind that part to see
how we got here?

Speaker 5 (11:34):
Like, like, bro, did we miss something due? It was
just a weird left turned dog.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
I thought him.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
I thought him like coming in that moment immediately after
was kind of weird. I thought like, that wasn't the place,
the place and time to have that conversation in front
of the people, Like take the al bro, calm yourself, nigga,
and then talk about it later and then make this
make steps to change, like you're having a like a

(12:02):
a in house conversation out of the house, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 4 (12:05):
Yeah, but I have I have an answer on that,
I think John, which is that he is a serial liar,
as Tyler's about to go over that we discovered later on, right, Yeah,
And I you know, we have a a Sean and
I have a friend who you know, struggle with sex
addiction like genuinely like required like treatment for it and everything.
And in retrospect, I was like, I should really have

(12:26):
recognized more of this stuff because I think that sitting
down is that I've lost control of the narrative. So
I have to have to get here and like whatever's
coming out, I got to be able to direct traffic
on what people are saying.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
About me and what they think about me and all
this shit. That was my feeling. Yeah that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Yeah, if we felt really awkward, though, I was like,
what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (12:49):
And even before he made the actual comment, the fact
that he was like talking about me and Garrett had
this really big moment right in front of Taylor, I'm like, dude,
what are you trying to do?

Speaker 7 (12:59):
Like them apart, like what's your deal with that?

Speaker 3 (13:02):
It was so bizarre and Taylor's like, bro, what the
fuck are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Like Taylor was not Taylor was not going.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Though time for bro, you know what I mean? Like
this saying a bunch of nothing, That's what he was saying.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
Yeah, yep, So that's how ship is for them in Mexico.
Then we go back to DC. Right, we come back
to DC, Steven finds out he's out of work. He's
an electrician. That's how shit works, you know, I'm sure
job the job you don't have any jobs working for you.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
You know, electricians are going to find work though, too,
Like yeah, yeah, there's that too.

Speaker 5 (13:35):
There's that too.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
And then you know, him and Monica have a conversation
and shit gets weird again, dog like like he's like, well,
you know, if you want to just use me as
a piece of meat and if you just like, you know,
drop your drugs, and I think that would be so
fucking hot, being that I don't have a job, I
like you like, yeah, listen, bro, that woman is thirty

(13:57):
six years old, Like you think that just saying, Hey,
some some dick over here. If you wanted to a
thirty six year old, what's.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Probably had She's attractive, you know what I'm saying, She's
probably had way more dicta he than she wants, Like
you know what I'm saying, come on, gee, this ain't new.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
And then and then the conversation gets a bit real.
Even though that was a weird ass angle that fucking
Stephen Tuke. You can tell her was joking, but she
gets real because Monica, you know, you know, Steven's talking
about freaky ship. And then Monica is like, well, you know,
I haven't been giving you sex lately because you've been
talking about how you're you got second us about being married, right,
and she's like, you know.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
I'm my freak.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Don't activate it if I know, if we ain't walking
down that motherfuckers, which is yeah, which is like, like I said.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Communicating clearly for sure.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Yeah I did that. That wasn't annoying at all. That
made a thousand, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (14:47):
Yeah, a very clear communicator. We gos's how you feel
about her? And then so so then you know, with
with with with this couple, you know things, you know,
they go over the other spotlines and then we come
back and we see we get the traumatic music, we
get the the unsteady camera, the camera on the shoulder,
unsteady angles.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
We we and we see tailor the boom mic. You
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (15:13):
It's good storytelling.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
It's good storytelling. It tells you that that that added
intensity is happening. It's great.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Yeah, it wasn't a sterilized environment anymore. It was real
life at that point, you know.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
What I mean.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
And we see and we see Taylor at the crib
comforting Monica in fucking earshot of Stephen basically saying you
deserve better than that, like just like evil.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yes, you raiding that nigga? You feel me?

Speaker 3 (15:41):
And and and and shots the tailor. That's some stand
up ship, real friend right there. Yeah, and so you know,
then the ship on unfolds where we find out that
this motherfucker said he was doing a sleep test.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
I had never heard of that also.

Speaker 4 (15:59):
In summer, like sleep So I have a lot of
friends who doesn't sleep tests.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Yes, yeah, yeah, those because because someone thinks he's full
of shit, because she thinks if you're sure, it doesn't
cover that.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
It's a Depending on it can be quite expensive depending
on what the disorder is. It can be covered by
insurance though, because I have a friend who you know,
if you have apnea, that's like a heart condition. So
it kind of depends on how it gets written up
because of the way our fucking health insurance system is.
If your doctor writes it up convincingly enough that it's
a medical necessity, it can be covered. Because I have

(16:33):
friends wo've had to pay for it, and I have
friends who had it covered.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
I think he's full of shit though, because he's full
of shit, you know what I mean. Like, I think
like he probably lied about it, you know what I mean,
like because it's him, But yeah, it's it's a thing
though for sure, it gets pretty serious.

Speaker 8 (16:48):
A quick Google search says that the average cost of
an in lift sleep study is three thousand dollars or
prices here from one thousand to over ten thousand dollars,
and you don't have insurance.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
He lost a job.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
Yeah, but but if you, But if you, because like
our friends with apnea, if you can't sleep, if you
wake up tired every single day, three hundred sixty five
days a year, one thousand dollars for a sleep test
is like, sure, it's it's it's It's like if you
have if you've had a migraine for like over twelve hours,
all of a sudden the Egyptian shit about drilling a
hole in your skull is like, let's.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Try it, like you know what.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Also also like usually you keep your insurance a little
bit after you lose your job, like he might you
know me, might I have a month left on this.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
I don't know how it works with electricians, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 4 (17:31):
Yeah, now he's fullishit is he said he was drunk
at the sleep test. If you go into it as
if you go into an in lab sleep test, Well,
guess what they want in laboratory. They want to controlled experiment,
right right, They don't want you showing up drunk, fucking
sexting someone Like number one, you're drunk, that's not how
you would normally sleep. And number two you're I mean,

(17:52):
like you don't have your You're not just laying in
bed with your phone doing whatever you want, because then
it's not a control study. So that's where I felt
like it was bullshit. You know, maybe he met someone
at the sleep study or something like that, but yeah,
like he didn't show up drunken, horny, and the doctors
were like, cool, this probably won't affect our readings at all.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
He's just watching a little porn. It's nothing, you know
what I mean. He is drunk. Give this man his
cell phones. He's just tagging. Who doesn't take part in that?
You know what I mean? Is it not America Nigga?

Speaker 4 (18:24):
Like I like PEG is part of Right Before.

Speaker 9 (18:28):
Going to Sleep, part of an evening PG that ship
was so but but.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Yeah, so you know, and basically Monica tells him, yo,
I saw your text and she says your texts were
dealing with disgusting.

Speaker 5 (18:47):
Kinks like I don't want to know, but I low
key do you.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Want to know? I want to know. I'm grown. I
can hear it, you know what I mean. I can
hear it as.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Long as Noah's I don't want to see it, might
need to right right, right.

Speaker 5 (19:03):
But but but Mike, you said you have some investigative.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
Monica has been doing interviews since these since these episodes dropped,
and she revealed how she discovered the text messages, which
for me is a part of the story obviously doesn't
change anything.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
I was wondering why one of the same thing.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
Yeah, so they're in the apartment. As you can see,
they're all in this like it's it's sort of weird,
and they put them in like a halfway home, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
But they're all apartments, right, But they're basically all in
this like dorm room. So all of them are in
the same one. So they're all in the same.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
And so, which which makes sense because they want the
interaction between them and all this other stuff. But Taylor
and Garrett, who obviously are friends with Monica, we're going
to bring over a tray of autumn cookies that they
had just baked.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
A couple of all time.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Laugh had been dirty pegging six soies, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
But he wanted to talk about pegging.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
Because they were waiting on the text from Garrett that
they were bringing the cookies over. Steven went to the bathroom,
left his phone on the counter. The text from Garrett came.
She opened it, saw his unread text from this other woman.
She was like, I debated about, like should I click
it or not? And then I clicked it and she
was like, I just couldn't even fucking believe what was

(20:29):
in there when I saw it.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
She divulge. No, I think they're saving that for the reunion.

Speaker 5 (20:36):
They got n tell us what.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Says here Stephen BDSM Does that mean anything to you?

Speaker 6 (20:50):
I can't believe Stephen is as the chat is calling
him three fifths of a fan capital F capital a
capital n uh.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
I can't.

Speaker 7 (21:00):
He's three fits to the fan and is not locking
his phone.

Speaker 6 (21:02):
But the password that is just I mean, he's a
lunatic and he deserves everything that's coming.

Speaker 7 (21:08):
He deserves everything that's coming to like but from all
from a behavior.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
Stand like all compulsive addicts, there's an inherent desire to
himself and get caught. There's the only way to explain
that ship there, because there's because it shouldn't surprise you
that Monico would check the text message either, you know
what I mean, And I don't mean that in an
insulting way.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
It's no, yeah, yeah, yeah, They're trying to make the
biggest decision of their lives and potentially big in their life,
and like a three week span like that's going to
raise anxieties.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Motherfuckers is going to go through phones, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
Yeah, And also I forget who said it, but it
was like a very prominent prosecutor who was talking about
the ditty shit and he was and they were like,
we will, We're we they will find evidence here because
sexual deviance do not get rid of their their ship
for whatever reason. He's like, that is a common thing
with them. They hold types of that ship. So yeah,
so yeah, I mean, look like Monica was annoying as fuck,

(22:02):
but I still felt so bad for in that moment.

Speaker 5 (22:04):
She did not deserve that shiit bro.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
No.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Of course that was horrible, Yeah, of course that was horrible.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yeah, And also like I felt like she was I
don't maybe I'm tripping she knew Old Boy wasn't necessarily
her cup of tea, you know what I mean. But
she was trying to make it shake. She was talking
herself into how it could work. And this motherfucker, you
know what I'm saying, is out here, you know, texting

(22:28):
wild Ship did she you know what I'm saying, the
wild text messages.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
She can't even repeat it seems, you know what I mean,
the disgusting kinks kicks.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
I mean, listen, there's a lot of shit that's been
normalized for in twenty twenty four. For you to say kink,
it got to be crazy. It might have been because
pegging isn't even considered kink to me anymore. Like you know,
there's enough.

Speaker 6 (22:51):
For niggas motherfuckers, you know, And she didn't really react
to crazy people.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Yeah, they pegging out here, solid motherfuckers be out here pegging,
all right, Right, they're pegging out here, like you boy said,
like Solomon, you know, they pegging out here. You feel
I'm saying that didn't necessarily even kink. So he on
some you know O the other other ship. You know
what I mean, a porn hub, you know what I mean,
like real weird.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
You feel me, so I need to know what they
were talking about.

Speaker 5 (23:15):
Yeah, we need to know, brod we didn't even know.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
He hass tok and she was probably a freaky frog too.
He was texted too, Bro, You know what I mean?
How many times did he say your dick gets hard
from blowing in the wind. That happened to me at
what seventeen?

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Bro? I'm a bro. How ya dicks to get hard
for blowing in the wind? After? You know what I'm saying? Like,
you know, like three.

Speaker 7 (23:37):
Times on camera, which means how will cause you to
get off camera?

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Bro? You are sick. You need help, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 5 (23:46):
We need draft king dogs for whatever the kink is.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
Actually I think we might.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Play dog, you know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (23:59):
You know what I mean plus four fifty but it's
in play.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
But it's a play bro crazy dog. But the way
he walked away, where he was like, I I can't,
I can't.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
Yeah, like this, I felt so horrible for her, bro,
like I've never been like thank god, I've ever been
cheated on or whatever. But the question she was asking
him where she was like, you were just gonna go
shake my dad's hand?

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Was wrong?

Speaker 2 (24:31):
There was two moments in this in these episodes that
made me emotion. That was one.

Speaker 4 (24:34):
I was like, fuck, yeah, crazy, you were like two
hours ago like okay, Like like John said, like clearly
you know yes?

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Like are her?

Speaker 4 (24:43):
Were her mannerisms in the earlier episodes annoying like they
were to me? But you could see how much she
was working to adjust herself. This dude she found herself with.
She was she was putting in a lot of work.
And so to go from that to like, oh no,
there's nothing here, like this dude is fucking out.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Of his mind.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
Hey, I can't even imagine on television too.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
On television, hey, she put that motherfucking in the blinder.
She was like, you keep telling me I'm right. I
know I'm right. Stop telling me that. Tell me why
you did what you did. And that is like the
main cop out for when a dude sucks up is
they think if they own it, if they assume accountability
on it, that all will be forgiving. And she's like, nah,
that she ain't flying motherfucker. Why are you a freaky
f all? Like that was what she was off.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
She was absolutely culting him.

Speaker 7 (25:27):
He was like, oh, I didn't lie She's like, you
lie about wanting to get married.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Bro. He was like damn.

Speaker 4 (25:33):
He's like, oh, you got me pretty good on that one.
Like I think every man who's been caught in a
lie by a woman, it turns into a fucking congress person,
like Tyler is exactly right. It's like, well, if I
take my medicine, it'll be like no no no no
no no no, when you were fucking nineteen, maybe.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
But not your ass naked, my boy, you know what
I'm saying. And you just got to deal with that.
But show she made she made it Venmo.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
We heard the goddamn like like, rub me my ship, Like, listen, dog.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
I don't know, bro, I came, I came all the
way around on Monica. What's the purpose of that, dude?
I mean, was it?

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Jess Clout like you did all of this, all of
this for dms like that, that's a certain level of
sick to like at at what age, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
A whole career.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
You're lying to this extent on camera, documenting your fucking idiocy,
you know what I'm saying, And craziness just for potential
d ms.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
You know what I mean? There's gonna be so many
women that want to suck me cook. It's just all
about exposure.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
What this came out of a grown man's mouth, Like
he said this to another person, like thinking that was
going to be a thing that was normal women to.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Two wins. Taylor was like, what the fun was that?

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Like this is also like there is no other situation
where those two women would be in his company.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
This is the only time, you know what I mean?
Like at this bro like, h well, that was a
couple number one number one episode.

Speaker 6 (27:29):
Carless in the chat was like, ironically, he's probably gonna
get no dms after all this.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
It's not it's not think so that's the There are
some nasty woman out there who were trying to see
what they get down and like, I promise you think about.

Speaker 6 (27:44):
How badly we want to see what those d ms are.
I promise you all those freaky frog ladies want to
want to know what's in those You're not.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
Gonna scare me off with anything. But but again, this
is the quote tweet economy. Like in the internet world,
the all that matters is how many people you've exposed
yourself or your product to and what your conversion rate is.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
But the conversion rate is never zero. Yeah, yeah, what
woman had three like like like it is. It is
a very well known fact. Like you think you nasty,
wait till you meet a nasty woman like bro like
women are most A lot of women think most men
are prudes, and a lot of women will be like, Okay,
he's not approved.

Speaker 5 (28:19):
Let me see what what what's going on with him?

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Them? D D cut clutch the pearls.

Speaker 5 (28:27):
He might he might meet his match in those thes,
but those.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Walk up that room like this nigga, grab your pocket
book and run.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Okay, okay.

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Speaker 2 (29:30):
Hannah and Nick.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
You know, Hannah and Nick are so interesting to me,
and I'll tell you why. It's because I do not
feel like they're good for each other. But they have
moments where I'm like, y'all have been married for fifteen years,
where like, do y'all get that that.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Feel that moment? Yeah, there's just a moment in the
kitchen when I felt like that.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
For so because they'll have arguments, I'm like, oh, they're
not gonna make it, and they're good fucking two minutes later,
and I'm.

Speaker 5 (29:57):
Like, bro, that's like married shit right there.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
So I'm honestly like I thought they weren't going to
make it. I'm honestly not sure where I'm at with
them right now.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
I could totally see Yeah, I mean, I don't disagree
with you and hey both. I found Hannah to be
very grading over the I'm I'm really big on like
a certain baseline of respect. And I know it's some
couples dynamics where it's like they talk a lot of shit,
you know, to each other whatever, and there's times where
that could be fun.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
But she's like really like she.

Speaker 5 (30:25):
She knows the buttons to push. She knows.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Yeah, She's like, I can be a bitch, like like
you don't have to be this way, you know what
I'm saying, You could not be that way, like you could.

Speaker 6 (30:39):
Decide her her fiance is confiding in her brother to
be like, oh.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
Is this normal that I feel like that clip, that
clip is going to be a tough draught of medicine
for fucking Hannah, Like like she walked out of the
room for thirty seconds and her brother was like, that's
my problem with her too.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
I had yeah, yeah, yeah, with those.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Total strain, you're stranger.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
That's crazy confiding in one another Like I've been waiting
to fight somebody to talk about.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
This with, you know what I mean. Like, but but
also she was right.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
He did go to like like from zero to like
all of a sudden, you're talking about her being on
deployed like nigga, like that that was a lot, you know,
what I mean, I was a big jump and.

Speaker 4 (31:24):
I didn't like the way necessarily she was like berating
him about all this shit he didn't know how to do,
but also like he didn't know how to.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Do, so you can't list. I'm gonna tell you. I'm
gonna tell you.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
I think I'm certain I tell you this ship.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
And I still remember the feeling in this moment.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
I was in the car of my homies and the
person I was at end of time called me and asked,
is it two cups of water and one cup of
rice or two cups of rice and one cup of water?
And I was I have never been more dumbfounded in
my life. So you're gonna put a one cup of
water in two cups of rice? And thought that was
gonna work?

Speaker 2 (31:59):
How do visualized that? Due? So I when when when
he said that, I was triggered. I was triggered, you
know what I mean. I was like not being there, nigga.
You know what I mean, I get hit. I ain't
blame her.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
That is a silly, silly questions for somebody that said
they can cook.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
But he bro also also we can't. The nigga's a loser.
He's a loser.

Speaker 7 (32:24):
Unfortunately, the nigga's a fucking loser.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
He came in there with all that confidence where Jordan's
thinking ship.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Was cool and ship nigga, he said, what.

Speaker 5 (32:35):
The mid Jordan's don't mean Middle the mid Jordans.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
That's a particular nig the Midjordan. The mid Jordans ones
are crazy.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
Those are the ones left champs that nobody wants. Nigga,
you know what I mean, The Purple Jordan's one Mids.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
He's the only nigga that bought them. You know what
I mean. Living in the fucking basement.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
No photos, photo, one photo in the whole fucking wall.
You know what I'm saying, Like, nigga, you know, it's just, bro,
he's a loser. So she came from his house where
he stays in a basement, and then he's sitting her
up talking about some how do I boil water? Well, look, bitch,
I'm enough, Okay, No, I gotta get in that ass, nigga.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Okay, I get it. We got limits, man, we got limits.

Speaker 6 (33:22):
Is really funny about how much of a loser he is,
which is like, not everyone is financially literate, and that's okay,
but to be like to be like, I've.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Never invested in the stocks before. That's okay too.

Speaker 6 (33:32):
Not everyone's done that, but that's okay. But then she
goes she's like, what do you mean what else do
you do? And he was like, you know sports? And
she was like, she was like what, like you know
about sports?

Speaker 2 (33:43):
No?

Speaker 4 (33:44):
But when she said do you know what stocks are?
And his face looked like what do what does the
mitochondria do? Like, Nigga, you feel me, I've actually never
conceived role does the mitochondria have?

Speaker 1 (34:02):
And you know what I mean, like he looked like
his eyes fucking crossed.

Speaker 4 (34:06):
Vinnie with the comic core math bro and this is
just not how we did the ship.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
I couldn't tell you.

Speaker 11 (34:12):
And then on her because she was like, you know, like,
well stocks, actually, Nigga, you could just shut the fuck
up in this moment too, and not dig in the
hole even more because y'all live with your mom and
you can't boil water.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Nigga's time to shut the fuck up.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
But I think I think to Tyler's point, the one
thing though about them, he's a loser, and he clearly
knows he's a loser, which is why he had the
whole swamp persona, and she's a bit she has like
a bitchy personality, and she's clearly aware that it's something.
So like, what interests me about them is there is
an intersection of them that's like, we know we're.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Young and we're figuring things out.

Speaker 4 (34:50):
This seems like the person who might help me get
to that point. And that's actually I think for people
their age with major personality defects, it's a more honest
place for a relationship to be then, where a lot
of these people are trying to be I think, like,
and we've seen those, yeah, but that's why I Tyler.
There are times where it's like this field they almost

(35:12):
sound like my grandparents, you know what I mean. Like
there are moments like that where you're like, no, you
can see that there's a shared understanding that now they
might also just say I'm tired of fucking teaching you
how to tie your shoes, and I'm tired of you
saying I'm a fucking loser for living at home with
my mom.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
I don't think he's a loser for living at home.
I think he's a loser, you know what I mean. Like,
I don't like people live at home with their parents.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
I mean, this.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Economy is fucking crazy, you feel me, Like, yeah, like
niggas live at home, Like it's hard out here. Bro,
this is not our parents' economy. You know, It's not
like if you lived at home, you was a real
bumb as.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
That's not why he's a loser. He's a loser because
he's a loser, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Like, there's a number of things that we're seeing where like,
my guy, you need to figure this out. You know
what I'm saying that a twenty eight year old shouldn't
be dealing with this type of shit.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
The thing is that I Nick doesn't give a fuck
about his shortcummings, right, and I think Hannah is a
bit self conscious about hers. And I've noticed that when
you get those two of those types of people together,
the one who doesn't give a fuck always wins, bro,
he always really yes.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
It seemed like the dynamic has switch though, because it
seemed like he was the person who like was like,
you know, she felt like she was winning by picking him,
and I feel like he's like trying to hold on,
like this is a ticket out of my mom's house,
you know what I mean? Like that's what it kind
of feels like to me, where he's like kind of desperate,
like he did not want to ask her that question

(36:37):
about cooking, that was the last thing on the planet,
but he had He looked at that motherfucker try to
do the math, and he just couldn't figure it out,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (36:49):
I have two other notes about them. One is the
saddest moment in TV history was him talking to her
little brother about like what about being a kicker?

Speaker 5 (36:59):
That motherfucker's scrushed up like a fucking razor.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
Like a kicker, like the Fu's like, I want to
be an offensive lineman, a real man.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
I want to be a real athlete, Nigga, I want
to be a football player, not a kicker.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
That's a different you know.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
Kicker shiers like I don't give a fuck.

Speaker 5 (37:15):
But but the other thing, kicker, why should I care?

Speaker 4 (37:19):
The other thing I noticed, The thing I judge people
in the most harshly on is how they are in
the meeting with their fiance's family, because that's such a
like performative service moment to like how much do you
care about this person? And I was impressed with the
way she was with his family, you know what I mean,
Like when she I agree with you and so and again,

(37:40):
that to me, like I do feel like that's a
significant you know, like that's a significant thing of like
she she doesn't have only the mode of pointing out
what a fucking manchild he is. There's a thing where
she could be like, no, there are things I like
about him, and I'm not just gonna relentlessly shit talk
you to the thing that I thought, I mean, standing
directly over your bedroom.

Speaker 6 (38:02):
I think that I thought I was interesting about the
meeting the parents part is how Hannah's mom was like, dude,
are you stressed out?

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Like can you relax?

Speaker 6 (38:12):
Mom was like you are stressed, which is like, is
this not how Hannah normally is or have they not
seen her in a while? Like I thought that was
just interesting that they observed that because it's obviously true,
but like if it's not this, Yeah, I was like,
that was a really interesting thing for her mom to
say to a daughter.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
She said some of the things she saw, like like
she probably talked like her, like how she was moving
was very normal and stuff like that, you know what
I mean. But yeah, I feel like they were really
good with each other's parents, Like, it wasn't what was
that niggas Francisco Cipriano, whatever the fuck the nigga's name
with Madrid, It wasn't that type of situation.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Rams, Yeah, why did you get that motherfucker too Italian names?

Speaker 2 (38:49):
And he's got an I don't know that nigga. I
don't know he'd be having to taco meet out and
nigga with them shirts. You feel what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
So even like a Francisco, don't say you know, like
a nigga nan it looks like it looks like.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
He doesn't like a world famous soccer player. I'll give
you that from Brazil situation. But they did good. I
think he did incredible though. Yeah, so yeah, yeah, so yeah.
I'm interested to see what happens to Hanna and Nick.
Like I said, I thought they were cooked, but I
don't know. I feel like they are both cool with
each other's bullshit. Bro, I feel like that's what it
all boils down to.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
I don't know if she is. I don't know if
she is. I think he's dealing.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
I don't know if she I think I think I
think his bull annoys her, But it's not a deal
breaker for her.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
The only problem is with his deficiencies. There's a lot
more to uncover there, Like you know what I mean,
Like that, in the process of getting married and moving
and all this other stuff, you're gonna find out a
lot of shit that that dude does not know about.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
If he doesn't know how to boil water, like that.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
Was a fucking William and Mary Grant, like a public ivy,
the oldest public university in the nation.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
That motherfucker can't pull water.

Speaker 4 (39:57):
And I'll tell you one thing, because I do have
some sim for him, knowing a lot of people who
chase the pro sports thing, who like you were in
the minor leaguees till you were twenty five and you
basically get out of that shit at eighteen years old
because you don't pick up any life skills in that
shit period. Those people know how to make Ramen bro
They know how to boil water.

Speaker 12 (40:16):
He does not know how to do shit Like yeah,
that man like he stay on campus or I mean,
cause like how do you stay on I guess like
you just all you did was go to the beild,
to the caf and he like you did even then, like.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
He was a single million he went, he was.

Speaker 4 (40:33):
Playing semi pro football, like I looked at his football BioPen,
like he was playing in some of those like developmental
leagues and shit like that. So it's like they're not
giving you team meals over there, like seven.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
Days a week, bro, like you had to do it.

Speaker 4 (40:44):
It's probably just his parents were giving him enough money
he could do whatever he wanted. But like anyone who
really went through that process, you for sure know how
to make yourself some ninety nine cent pasta with some
dollar fifty pasta.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
Sauceage like that motherfucker lived in a in a three
story brick house in the DC area. That motherfucker broney period. Yeah,
that is a two and a half million dollar house.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
That boy Maya Maya can't boil water. Vinnie can boil water. Bro.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
It's taught in elementary science classes, you know what I'm saying,
Like the science has been given to you since elementary.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
You you know, turn it on. He probably was waiting
for that motherfucker. He under he over he under cooked it, undercooked,
undercooked the ad double. I love.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
I love a motherfucker that confidently says words wrong, no
niggas and right for so for so had I had
somebody else dating that used to say words are all
the time. She was one one word she would be like,
instead of atrocious, she said, that's atrocious. And the arguments
that ship was perfect for somebody to be mad at

(42:02):
you and say that's natrocious.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
All of a sudden, we're all laughing. You know what
I'm saying. It was that was one of many words.
But yeah, bro, I love the motherfuckering to fuck up
a good word like that for sure.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
Okay, So some next couple, Garrett and Taylor, like nothing
spectacular happened here. We met Garrett's family in Fredericksburg, Virginia.
Folks aren't famliar with Fredericksburg, Virginia. It is a I've
always said this, like I will hear you out if
you say, like northern Virginia, like Alexandria, fairfaxt et cetera
is in the South, The South starts in Fredericksburg, Virginia.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
Yeah, ain't shit in Fredericksburg.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
But like a big ass CarMax and a motherfucking cracker
barrel that has a fucking sign, I shit you not
a cracker barrel that has a sign that goes up
to like one hundred feet in the air, like you
see that motherfucker for like ten miles away, knowing you're
coming up on Freddicksburg. So like like, bro, like that
that is that is the Mason Dixon line. Bro, that
big ass crack of Barel signe. That is that is

(43:04):
when the South starts dog. But so you know, they
had that moment where they're like, okay, let's exchange social media.
Let's exchange Instagram, so which I feels like a big
deal in twenty twenty four relationships and ain't shut on
his Instagram, but him fucking spearfishent which I'm like, yeah,
that would be me if I was Instagram ass motherfucker
and you know, yeah, right right, so your but but

(43:28):
I will say, I will say, you know, of course
we had that they had that moment where they showed
up and you know, hel Monica down during that moment.
I would say something that that might you know, be
a big issue, is is Taylor is really big on
moving back to San Diego, and Garrett's like, bro, we
can live in Fredericksburg. And I'm telling you, like I said,
if Fredericksburg ain't ship out there, it is country.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
It is.

Speaker 5 (43:49):
But but if that's what you like, that's what you like.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
And Taylor is like, you know, I want to go
back home to San Diego, which is just two different
total ends of the spectrum. So I think that's something
that we might need to keep our eyes on. Also,
Taylor lives in the basement of the house that her
best friend owns. I was like, that's the coolest shit ever.
You're living in a sitcom, Like you have no idea,
Like how blessed you are if I can live in
the basement that of the house that my friend you know,

(44:12):
own at her age and her in the twenties, Like
not now, you know that would be losing ship, but.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
You're talking about now leaving your wife and moving into
the basement of your best friends.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
Her place was reflective of where she's at in life.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
She's for sure, that's like Northwest looked like TC like
super expensive out there.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (44:35):
But but but but also her friend group seemed like
a sitcom to be brought. It was like the friend
group was rainbow color. There was every ethnicity.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
Understand, they even have the fast gay black guy, right,
You're right from since Designing Woman Dog.

Speaker 4 (44:54):
Yes, Like literally, like okay, we want to put a
black dude on the show, but we don't want to
offend the South by having a black dude kiss anyway.
So we're gonna make a super a super gay black
dude that's gonna be who we cast on the show.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
One hundred Yeah, so you know, nothing nothing there, but
you know, we did see some ship in the previous
where it looks like shit might get spicy too.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
I think they got a road to hoe with their parents,
but I do think it seems like they have a
commitment to each other over it, and I respected that.

Speaker 8 (45:20):
He he.

Speaker 4 (45:21):
They've been giving each other assurances at each step of like, hey,
my parents don't want to be at the wedding.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Said yeah, I mean I'm not chripping off with this,
and that's the way to move.

Speaker 6 (45:33):
I think the promo is is just you know, the
editors have to find a way to keep it interesting
for all the couple.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
I think so too.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
I think, like, I think that could have been different
vo over totally different, Like she could have been crying
because she's happy, you know what I mean, Like the
vio could have you know, like in the music you
could you could.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
I think they'll be fine.

Speaker 4 (45:50):
I'm really the other notes, Tyler, I saw the same
thing as you of like they're already the couple that's
comforting betrayed friend, which is like such a we've been
married for fifteen years.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Like the way that they were, the way that they
were both sitting with.

Speaker 4 (46:05):
Monica, not even just Taylor, but the way like Garrett
was comforting her and was like like I'll check in
on YouTube like one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
Yeah, yeah, Like like when Garrett was like, Monica deserves
better and Taylor was like Monica deserves a Garrett, and
I was and Garrett was like, you know, Taylor deserves
a Garrett.

Speaker 5 (46:21):
I was like, goddamn ten ten ten out of tense
of both.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
For each other. God damn well.

Speaker 4 (46:27):
And the flip side of that that I wanted to
say Shar's the line after seeing her meeting his family
was Wow, she policy consulted the fuck out of that,
Like she was like script perfect in like I understand
it's new, I really care about him, Like I'm not crazy,
I understand, I agree with you at the time, Like
she just handled that all so perfectly and so sensitively

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to him while not being like the way Ramses did
when he was meeting Marissa's friends while not just talking
the whole time, but letting her, letting his family have
their say. Like, I was just super impressed with the
way she handled that whole ship.

Speaker 5 (47:04):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
Yeah, I mean, bro Like, like I said, the potential
is there for them to be an all time great
love is black couple.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
Bro Like, well, we'll see how shit.

Speaker 5 (47:14):
Shakes out, though. Yeah, you never know. You never know,
motherfucking know. That's the that's the beauty of the show.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
All right, On to Tim and Alex, the couple that
I have been told to stop calling the Biggins.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
The Bigginess is. No, you can call them the Biggins is.
That's what Sean and I have been calling them since you.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
Said that ship Hell okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, they're
they're big people, like they're I thought you were saying
like they're they're they're fatties, and I'm like, they're not.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
They're not big to me like that. I'm like, they're not.
I don't see that. I mean, they just thick. They
just thick.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
Yeah, they just thick. I mean I misinterpreted what you
were saying. I thought you meant, like, you know what
I mean, like I said, welcome to the clumps. Like
I was, like, God damn, brother, you know what I mean,
you were the one that should welcome to the clumps.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
I know, I know.

Speaker 7 (47:58):
That's what I know.

Speaker 4 (47:58):
I was.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
I was saying that thought he was saying no, But no,
I don't said. Yeah, I said, I said, I don't
think she's big, bro. I just think she thinks you
feel me. That's what I said too. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
Like, Bro, they went to their little furnished apartment in
d C. And the first thing they said, is this
queen big bag? Is this queen bad big enough for
both of us?

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Yeah? They have been a healthy ass couple dogs.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
I thought she was calling him big back in a
particular way. I ain't big big bone is different than
big back. Okay, cool, you know.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
But you know, I want to say, Bro, I'm liking
him more and more the more. Can such a good jude.
He is such a good thing.

Speaker 4 (48:40):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
Yeah, And so you know we start we you know,
we go to his crib. His crib is fucking imctim.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
You can tell that he's a super clean dude, military
background and all that, and he's got all this ship
laid out and you see his humor come out in
his deadcoord where you see you see the painting of
him and like and like royal, this regal and then
his his little uh uh you know Schnauser in it too,
his little schnauserready, and it's like it is little. It

(49:07):
got a little couch, you know, matching brown leather couch. Yeah, yeah, man,
And it's just like, bro, really really like this dude.
So and then we have the moment where we meet
Alex's parents, we meet his his mom or her mom,
her dad, and her brothers, and it's like bro like, like,
you know, Tim just wins everybody over.

Speaker 5 (49:28):
He's out there really yeah, oh god, it was a
beautiful thing.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
He's out there grilling, grilling steak, grilling chickens, asking him
if they want steak or chicken, like just being the
total fucking host. And he has a really heartfelt conversation
with Alex's dad, who's speech ascern because he has MS
as as Alex has mentioned, she says both her parents
have that, and you know, you know, Alex's dad was

(49:53):
went on that front like I ain't gonna really fuck
with this dude. I don't funk with him like that
and he met fucking Tim and Tim Melton that dude's
fucking heart. Tim won that dude over so convincingly, and
it wasn't even like Tim was bullshit and Tim was
just being genuine self, right, and it was it was
just a really beautiful moment where where Alice's dad got
emotional and saying that you know how much you know

(50:15):
Alex means him and and you know how he he
would be honored if you know, if if, if Tim
is you know, her husband and all that, and it
was just it was just a really beautiful moment.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:27):
Yeah, because during these conversations, Alex kind of not like
menacingly dangled that ship over it. But she was like, bro,
if my family ain't with you, I ain't fucking with you,
which I respect, understandable, understandable right, And and and sim
one of those one of that family over convincingly just
by being himself, just a really genuine dude.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
I really liked that guy. Bro.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
I was crying at the conversation between Tim and mister
Bird for sure.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
It was just like, damn, bro, this was that's It's
crazy how he how he waved his daughter over afterwards
and hugged her and like how that was like a stessing,
like a really really big moment.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
I was like, Nigga, you goes Man, drop a book.
I'm aa by that motherfucker. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (51:07):
Facts, Yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
And then and then we had the moment where we
go from this super clean, pristine, you know, military dude
house to Alex's ship like.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
She's doing backflips, to that motherfucker taking her clothes off.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
Nigga like broward Nigga, Like it's that damn y'all see them.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
I know I've seen the goofy meme, the damn girl
you live like this, Like that's what he walked into. Dog.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
I was like, God, damn like that, bro.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
You had that moment where it's where meeting meeting like
a junkie woman is just wild, bro, because they're just
so in the minority. It's like, I did not expect
to come over to your house and have to fucking
step over a three foot fucking.

Speaker 5 (51:54):
Tall pile of launey to come into your bedroom. Like,
I did not sign up to this.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
This is wild, bro.

Speaker 4 (52:04):
I just heard vulnerability to of like understanding what it
looks like to some to someone who's like coming into
this space.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Was like, yeah, I'm with you, Tyler. They've really grown
on me.

Speaker 4 (52:15):
His uh, your ancestors dreamed of this couch? Was also
I thought the funniest lie.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
I legitimately thought about you.

Speaker 5 (52:22):
I legitimately thought about you when you showed us.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
Your recliner and I was like, Bro, there is no
there are no gaps when you pull that motherfucker out.

Speaker 5 (52:28):
You remember that conversation. I ligitimately thought about that, Bro.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
I know.

Speaker 6 (52:33):
She was like, men just love a recliner, and I
was like, this podcast has personal experience.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
You ever you ever took a nap in a recline? God? Bro,
baseball playoffs. I'm I'm well rested. I don't need to
sleep study right now.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
You know, there's low key better than the bed, honestly,
you know what I'm saying, Just like because the situation
in which you get it is always so needed, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (52:54):
Crazy in the chat actually said I would get a
fake apartment before they put before I put that on TV,
like New.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
TV is coming like like like bro, like how could
you not even front of the cameras? That's my concern here.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
They were coming like did they know they were. I mean,
I guess if they watched the course.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
I mean sneak back to the crib. You know what
I'm saying, I'll be back. I got to straighten up,
you know how you litting and showty if don't nobody know,
you know you carrying out for an hour or so
and shit, Yeah, yeah, that's your house.

Speaker 5 (53:23):
Nigga.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
Tell them niggas to say they ass.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
Outside the fun they don't, right, right, he ain't the police,
you know what I mean, Like, tell the answer.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
Go sit down, I'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
You ain't gonna have me looking crazy on national television,
you hear me, ain't no way.

Speaker 5 (53:37):
Yeah, so you know my my main concern. I don't
think Tim and Alex's is gonna work.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
And I guess my main concern here is someone who
has always been like the jokes thing you come up against,
the girl who doesn't find your ship to be funny
at all. I'm like, bro, like it gets to the
point where, Okay, my jokes don't do anything for you,
but you not fuck on my jokes. It's putting me
in a bad mood now too, right, Like I gotta
shake too, because you know.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
The other day when we was when we was clowning.
You know what I'm saying, Who didn't find you funny?
Does that happen before?

Speaker 5 (54:10):
That's that's never happened to you.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
I mean, I mean all I got is jokes.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
Niggas ain't gonna fuck with me if if she don't
find me funny, nigga, I mean there was.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
I got penis and jokes, nigga, That's all I had
for a long time in my life.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
You feel what I'm saying, So like, nigga, if you
ain't find me funny, you we wasn't gonna make it nowhere. Yeah,
were y'all at a particular point though, because you might
have you might have been we were younger, doing different ship.
You might have moved a particular way that she was like,
ain't shit funny because you doing ship that ain't funny here.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
That's so you were still funny, but you was was
he was moving left, You should have moved right.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
You know what.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
I have been there before where I fed up the
vibes and the jokes just don't hit the same. Yeah,
also just didn't really dig my sense of human I
was like, okay, thishi ain't okay.

Speaker 5 (54:57):
That's because.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Because the whole thing is, I'm not doing these jokes
for me. I'm doing it for you. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
I'm trying to make you laugh, I'm trying to make
you feel good. If you're not accepting my fucking you
know me pouring into you like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (55:10):
There's nothing here for us.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
Yeah that makes sense, that makes sense.

Speaker 5 (55:15):
But yeah, yeah, interesting to see how they how they
you know, plan out next couple.

Speaker 4 (55:21):
Bro, I'm very excited to talk about both of the
last two couples.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
Tyler.

Speaker 5 (55:24):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
All right, So Marissa and Ramsey's this fucking super passionate
ass couple whose fire has been burning bright as fuck.
We finally fucking see some friction here, right.

Speaker 4 (55:39):
Can I Can I tell you, because you had the
perfect meme for Tim and Alex, can I tell you
the meme I have for Marissa and Ramses. Yes, was
that it's the tweet that goes around that it's always
two dumb bitches telling each other exactly.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
That's Marissa and Ramses.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
Hey, I feel like we found out so much about
Marissa with with with with this drop, not so much
about Yeah, we kind of found out a lot about
rams Is too, about how how firm he is in
his police as well. But okay, so it starts in
you know, we see the couple there in Mexico, their bed,
they're pillow talking and Rissa talks about she wants a
black wedding where everyone shows up in black and there

(56:20):
she's only white. I'm like, okay, that's different, Like that's
a that's a you know, peculiar thing there.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
And then we get back.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Mary Adams family is you know what I mean, but hey,
we all got our own desires, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
Then we get back to DC and they're having dinner
and they have a discussion about like you know, their
their beliefs, their religion, their spirituality and ship. And we
find and I this made so much motherfu sensity about her.
We found out this girl grew up Mormon. I was like, ah,
is crazy, Like don't don't yeah, like yeah yeah, yeah,

(56:56):
like God black people by giving us black right tribe
of Ham.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
That that's what the court? Yes, And I would say this.

Speaker 4 (57:04):
I started liking Marissa one hundred thousand times more after
finding out that she grew up as a black Mormon
because I have a friend who's Mormon and grew up Mormon,
who's black, who's left the church. I have a friend
who's gay who left the church. That's like leaving. That's
not like I grew up Catholic, but I'm going to church.
There's like pressures put on your family to bring you

(57:25):
back in. It is like ritualized casting you off. And
the fact that she's gone through that, and we saw how.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
Great her mom's was a Mormon.

Speaker 4 (57:34):
Like her mom was a Mormon, I would guess based
on what she said about how patriarchal the church was,
I would guess it was her dad. Oh, there's not
a lot of incentive for women to be the drivers
of and yeah, yeah for sure.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
Yeah. The mom is like, I don't I don't get
those Yeah yeah, And so you know that's always shocked.

Speaker 5 (57:55):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
And they have, you know, a conversation about their beliefs
about how who they to officiate their weddings and all that,
and and Ramsey says, you know, he he's not necessary
sore if he believes in God.

Speaker 5 (58:05):
He's like, you know what if I do believe?

Speaker 2 (58:07):
And he says the same shit I've said. It's so
many times. If I do believe in God.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
I'm sure God ain't gonna tip off me not believing
in them, you know what I'm saying, Like you know
what I'm saying, which is something that I've always kind
of believed as well.

Speaker 4 (58:16):
But he did have that consit, he did have that
Crucifis necklace on while he's talking about it, which I
always I'm not Catholic or Christian, but it's always crazy
to me.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
It's like that's a person's dead body.

Speaker 4 (58:26):
If you don't believe that's God, you believe, you're just
wearing a statue of someone who is murdered and is
dead on there, Like you know what I mean, Like
it's a crazy fashion accessory.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
Brother, he's doing it for the vibes. Vibes, man, for
the vibes. Hang right on top of that taco meet.
You feel what I'm saying. I see you, Francisco, Yeah,
on the toco meat. I see you, Cipriano. Do you think,
my boy? You feel.

Speaker 8 (58:55):
So?

Speaker 3 (58:55):
You know, they had that that that that pretty, you know,
cool conversation about marriage, but then ship to Marissa's military service,
and shit got very real and in that moment.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
Where and understandably so he's standing on some solid ship.
But go ahead.

Speaker 5 (59:08):
I was at this point, Yeah you feel me.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
Yeah, Ramses is completely adamantly anti military. He said, you know,
Marissa just got off the military a couple of years ago,
and Marissa flat I asked him if I was still
in the military when when you when we met, would
you up to dated men? He fled, I said no,
And you know, to Ramsey's credit, I know he's like,
you know, his his whole employment situation is a thing
of concern. But he you know, I've googled up on

(59:34):
what he's done, and he has worked in like social
justice reform.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
I saw that ship too. Yeah right, yeah, like four
years or that's crazy. Y'all are fucking with him over that.
He proposed to her, but she was the military.

Speaker 4 (59:52):
The show is to find out without seeing each other,
what your like values and stances are. He found out
she was in the military, but she had a cute voice,
and so he didn't ask during the like ten times
they talked that they didn't see each other. Hey, by
the way, it's a deal breaker for me if you
don't actively hate the military.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, that's not just that.
He didn't want her to enjoy back up.

Speaker 4 (01:00:21):
It was like he like it did say actively in hearing, no,
but like it clearly bothered him to a level that
was like, what are either of you doing by not
knowing this about each other?

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
Like what were you like it was just all cancer
Leo Leo?

Speaker 4 (01:00:37):
Or it was all like she's she genuinely has like
the cutest voice, right, Like I totally get that, but
like if this is such a clearly I mean, he's
from Venezuela. Of course you don't fuck with the United
States military. But the person you're talking to, like has
said to the camera but not to you. All of
her friends are in.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
But she spoke about how fucked up America moves outside
of America, you know what I mean. She spoke to
imperialism and she didn't fuck with that. So she was
speaking about saying things and like, yes, I mean potentially,
but he doesn't know that. He doesn't know that, you know,
like you were talking about how he was moving, you
know what I'm saying. She said, I was in the military,
but I saw some things out in fuck with so

(01:01:18):
I'm not in military anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
And then she throws in, well, what.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
If I joined a military and what about this shit
you just said about the band, you know, you moving
in a particular way that you didn't believe in Like
that don't make no sense. So I mean, I feel
like he spoke to you know, she spoke to not
wanting to be in the military and seeing the issue.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
With how they operate outside of the outside of the
United States, and.

Speaker 4 (01:01:38):
So you know what I mean, I think I think
there's equal weight on both of them for so because
it like, because it's the military, it's not religion or
race or the things that probably normally come up as
these kinds of conversations in the in the pod, I
think it's easy to gloss that over. But this is
clearly a really central belief of both of theirs that
they completely.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
Even though it was clearly there.

Speaker 4 (01:01:59):
This is not like someone hiding a kid, like she
was up front about the fact that she was a
veteran and that most of her relations all of her
all of her previous relationships. And also she told him
she was with the Trump supporter for three years.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Did she tell him or does she tell you? I
think she told him. She told the white man.

Speaker 8 (01:02:21):
To someone who considers themselves progressive, like, to me, out
have been a huge red flag.

Speaker 4 (01:02:27):
Ram did not do his job as a journalist. I
asked the correct follow up, I thought, I thought told him.

Speaker 5 (01:02:37):
I thought it was that thought that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
Yeah, I thought.

Speaker 7 (01:02:43):
Ramsey knew that. I think he would been out immediate, but.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
So but I guess.

Speaker 4 (01:02:48):
She wasn't hiding that information. He just was like neither
of them were actually trying to learn these centrally important
things about each other, which to me, it's difficult to
sympathize with either of I.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
Dividly remember the conversation that happened because they asked, like,
you know what is probably you know, your your most
extreme political stanceship, Like, I don't think that we need
to like you know, you know, ostracized people have different
political beliefs and us I did her Trump support. He
was like, my most radical belief is that anyone who
works should have health insurance.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Like bro, that's census as fuck, that's.

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
Middle tow Like like, I remember that conversation because I
remember that ain't fucking radical at all.

Speaker 5 (01:03:24):
My god, I remember the wing in this country though people.

Speaker 4 (01:03:27):
Hey, but I'm gonna I'm gonna bring it back to this.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
I said this ship on the last episode.

Speaker 4 (01:03:31):
She could have been with the dude who understood where
she was coming from, all the military ship, who fucked
with all the fantasy books, but she just like liked.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
She could have been with a pearl imperialism ass nigga,
but she decided not to for hers, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
But look at her now. The way she talks.

Speaker 8 (01:03:53):
About like gender and things of that nature are super progressive.
Like when she was talking about the Barbie movie and
when she no, no no no no no no no,
no no no.

Speaker 4 (01:04:01):
You can't say that he's a centrist for thinking that
people should be able to live on forty hours a
week and then say she's progressive on gender because the
Barbie movie helped me out.

Speaker 8 (01:04:11):
I'm saying sounded more progressive. This Her idea of gender
and gender roles come across more progressive than a centrist
would be in this country.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
I don't like.

Speaker 4 (01:04:21):
I grew up in like the second gayest country in America,
I guess. But like to me, what she was saying
was the exact same ship as him saying, like my
radical belief, like the Barbie movie helps you understand that
you don't like the patriarchy bro at the age that
you are. I mean, I'm glad you got to that point,
but you're not going to paint that to me as like, oh,
she's like very progressive gender.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
Barb. He's young and she just military. She bro she's
come a long way. You know, she's a military Mormon kid.
She's technically nineteen years old.

Speaker 7 (01:04:57):
Bro to her baseline, she she's the most left person
in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
That movie blew her fucking mind.

Speaker 4 (01:05:06):
Dog you like your response to like the It's just
my point is the conversation they had about the military.
To me, having now seen this whole show, that seems
like a.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
First episode pod conversation. Like when he pulled a.

Speaker 4 (01:05:17):
James Baldwin quote out and she looked at him, was
are you actually like a like she looked at him
like he was Antifa when.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
You like, I'm like, I did this right here? Continue
I like you that out on her?

Speaker 4 (01:05:36):
Okay, Yeah, And then she took him to meet her
like friends who I assume are all from the military,
and they were like, buddy, you might be barking up
the wrong tree.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Brother. He was.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
He was laying the ass up so much. You know,
you're getting points off on a motherfucker. When they stopped,
where are you from?

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
You know you cook it?

Speaker 5 (01:06:00):
You either cook it or you look like a dickead.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
He wasn't looking like they was gonna have to pop
the Trump and stop his ass.

Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
But like, yeah, but but but but Rams said something
during that dinner table conversation. It was like, I believe
your politics are intrinsically tied to your ethics and you
can't separate him. And I think if she would have
told him she dated a Trump supporting the pods, he
would have for sure, you know, mentioned that, right, So but.

Speaker 4 (01:06:26):
What But the question is what did like why did
Bodon get information out of her that he didn't get out?

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
Like if this is someone you really trying to.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
Listenably New Francisco one fucking with it, you know what
I listen.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
She knew what to divulge.

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
She knew that man sounded black, and she knew she
could not tell that black man that she dated a
Trump support it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
That's what she does not. She does not read to
me as U.

Speaker 4 (01:06:51):
On top of it enough to be that Like I
agree with what y'all were saying about how naives she
seems like she is, But I feel like he was
equally Even though he's not as naive a person, I
feel like he was equally naive in the process of
riving at whether.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
He was going to be close to this person or not.
I think he was. Honestly, I agree with you.

Speaker 4 (01:07:10):
And then I understand they both see each other and
they're both like fuck, like hell, yes, this is fucking great.
I understand that, But it is like, it's crazy to
be if you if you think of like Hannah and Nick,
who I think we all agree are very flawed and immature.
By the time they were in the apartment together, they
were literally going through a checklist of like how are

(01:07:30):
we going to handle the finances? What household things? Are
you good at versus bad?

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
These two people. He's like, oh, so you still like
the military, and she was like, I grew up on
military basis. This is my entire life. Like that's I
said they did was fuck. All they did was have
sex the.

Speaker 7 (01:07:46):
Entire time, and there's so much more stuff with which
God bless God.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
Well yeah, yeah, so now they give to the apartment.
They start speaking in holy shit, I didn't know these things.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
You your quote James Baldwin, you know what I'm saying, nigga,
I just hopped off the motherfucking war navel ship.

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
Nigga, Like that man quoted James Ball into a Mormon
like he was there. He was standing at home. That
man called James Ball went to a Mormon like he was.
He was not there to play. But but yeah, we're
gonna start back to the whole little sex thing because
there's another wrinkle that comes to that. But then we
had the moment where oh yeah, he met Marissa's family

(01:08:27):
and Marissa's mom, Maurissa's sister and a couple of Marissa's brothers,
and one of the brothers popped up looked just like
the motherfucker nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
I'm like you a pirate ass motherfucker too. I was like,
you know what I mean? You know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (01:08:45):
As I like how the sister addressed it right away, though,
like white people do this all the time.

Speaker 4 (01:08:50):
No one's gonna come here in my family.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Tell me my sister looks like data simbling like ass nigga.
You know what I'm saying. Bro.

Speaker 5 (01:09:00):
Have y'all seen like that Instagram page that's like siblings
are like.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
The world siblings are dating is amazing. Yes, me and
summer playing that ship all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
We legit like, we will point out couples in public
that look like brother, like, look at the motherfucker, Like, bro,
I really think, yeah, I think I think you legitimately
have to be very much vain and self centered to
like a couple with some of it looks just like.
It's so intriguing to me though, because those people are
usually interested as hell as we're seeing with Marissa and Ramseys.
But you know, she had that moment, and they had

(01:09:31):
that moment where they met with with the family and
her mom was just on some other ship.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
When things were explained, brother, Yes, things were explained.

Speaker 4 (01:09:38):
Like I said, I gained a lot of respect from
Marissa over the course of the episodes of like for
you to be who you are coming out of where
you came from, right, yeah, considering yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
And then one brother who just didn't say anything the
whole time.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
He was like, you're not gonna be in this at
it with that, with that, with that half smile painted
on his face, nigga, you know what I mean, eating
with a half smile.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
It was interesting to see.

Speaker 4 (01:10:07):
He was sending imaginary text messages about his mom to
his friends. The whole time, just like everyone's gonna get
to see this ship now.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
Like this is just an inside joke between.

Speaker 5 (01:10:15):
Me and my friends.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
For the let I thought I was playing. Now you
know what time it is, bro?

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
You feel yeah, but you know, my Duke's was wild,
but I think she had legitimate concerns for someone and
for her her child was in this situation.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
The delivery though, but yes, the delivery.

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
Was wild as fun. But yeah, she was like, Bro,
you are you know you are? You worked for a nonprofit,
You're in between jobs right now. My daughter is about
to get a law degree from Johns Hopkins. Like you
are not gonna fuck you are not gonna you know.
And she said the whole thing about how you know
she's been fucked over so many times by men in
her life, by her dad and and all that. She's like,

(01:10:50):
I'm not gonna let that happen a yet. I think
that there's a lot of guilt that she's probably wearing, yeah,
that she's rejecting, like, you know, I couldn't protect my
baby girl from her dad.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
I'm a protector from this motherfucker. Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
She came in there firing his ass up. She's like,
I don't like you, Jerry Kell. I don't like your brain.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
I don't like your walk nigga. I don't like how
you eat steak nigga, walk.

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
Right right right right.

Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
She came in there, She came in there war ready,
like she was not there to be one over. She
was there to lay the wall down. And like I said,
i'm i'm, I'm I understand being so protective of your
child in such a unique situation like this. I do
think there's certain ways you can go about it. But
like I said, if you're if you're a mom who
is trying to protect your kid from getting hurt again,

(01:11:35):
I don't know how much I can blame you.

Speaker 8 (01:11:36):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
Yeah, it's de.

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
Yeah, I think it's delivery because she was uncomfortable, the
other kids were uncomfortable. Was I parent and she didn't care,
you know what I mean? And I think that could
be traumatizing as well, you know what I mean? So like,
if your delivery to help your kid is to hurt
them as well, I don't think that's the way to
go about it, or to embarrass them, you know what
I mean, Like you got to move a particular way,
So like I can't blame her for how she felt,

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but like being that it didn't seem like the children
were even comfortable with how she was acting or delivering
the message.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
It just didn't seem like it was the right way
to me.

Speaker 4 (01:12:11):
I think all parents are trying to make sure that
their number one issue is solved in the next generation,
right like well, like emotionally engaged parents.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
Clay's dad in the last season was not that way.
You won't go to therapy for the reasons. I went
to therapys.

Speaker 4 (01:12:24):
That's right, that's right, And I'm that way that way
like most parents.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
I know.

Speaker 4 (01:12:29):
It's like, hey, like I know it's not gonna be perfect,
but it's gonna be some different shit. My parents were
that way too, and still messed up other things.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
But that's like part of it.

Speaker 4 (01:12:36):
And I feel like that's where her mom is coming from.
It's just she's not understanding the strength of what she's
doing is probably part of what's creating the dynamic where
she said, I've been fighting her about her other boyfriend
and this other thing, and it's like, but that's you're
not guiding her, then you're just sort of so aggressively.
It's like a Greek myth, like you're so aggressively trying

(01:12:58):
to avoid your daughter having the same face.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Is you that you're going to cause it to happen
or something? You know what You're gonna wind up, you know,
sleeping with her after you like frind you actually throw a.

Speaker 4 (01:13:09):
Frisbee and cut his head off or some ship, but
like like the whole like I'll cut your balls off thing,
Like you have to do that off camera, bro, Like
like if if you're acting out of love for your daughter,
that you can't do that ship. You can't make a
scene out of your own self, is how I feel
about it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
It became about her, That's what it came. It became
about her.

Speaker 5 (01:13:27):
Yeah, I should know when we signed up when we
saw that song ring down.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
I tell you that age group it made, It made
a particular thing. Fucker's move was a particular way at
that point.

Speaker 3 (01:13:39):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
That's a that's a but that is a decision at
that age to have a tongue ring nigga.

Speaker 4 (01:13:44):
So can I just say the funniest ship about this
and I love this is the couple. I feel like
I've gone back and forth on both of them, like
ten times. Ramses was willing to put the James Baldwin
book back up on the shelf. He was willing to say.
The only place I'll actually draw line is your active
participation in the military. If you support the troops, cool,
if all your friends are troops, cool. But if you're

(01:14:07):
asking me to put a condom on my penis, that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
Hey, bro, Hey man, I know John's gonna have a
wild tape. No, I'm not going to have a wild test.
I'm not gonna have a No, I'm not go like nigga.
I'm just saying that, I Bro, don't.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
She doesn't want to get birth controlled? Yeah, a nigga
the side effects of that ship.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
I understand that ship. Also understand him not liking condom sex.
You know what I mean. I was.

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
I was throwing the dice a lot because you know
what I'm saying, you know, because I because it's just trash.
It's really wild that in twenty twenty four, that is,
you know, like kind of like we could have better
ways of fucking like that. It is wild to me,
you know what I'm saying, That's got to be a
better way. But anyway, I think they both had points,
but it's still a biggish. I think you know, I
think they both had points go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
Because all of the other ways are for the women.
I'm birth control.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
Yeah, why is it not like I heard something? We're
like there was they were looking at them up there.
We were trying men's birth control, but they were side effects,
but the side effects of women's birth control.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
What do you mean, I will, I will have a government.

Speaker 7 (01:15:14):
Don't know how to like, don't understand, no, but I.

Speaker 4 (01:15:17):
Was, I would say, because I have a friend who
actually is in is in research on some of the stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
The issue. The issue is biological.

Speaker 4 (01:15:25):
The issue is that the man produces his part of
the fertilized egg, like at a rate of ten thousand
per hour or whatever, whereas the woman has like you know,
every woman is born with the same number of eggs
that she's going to have, Like they don't gain eggs.
So the issue for men is you're trying to stop
a regenerative process. But it really is like a I mean,

(01:15:45):
it seems to me the easiest thing to do is
going to be to find a way to get vasectomies
that are more reversible. Is basically it because it's difficult
to the act of finishing having sex, like produces the challenge,
you know what I mean. So it's it's it's not
as easy as like, oh, we're going to give you
a pill that makes you infertile, but then when you're
ready to not be infertile, we're just gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
We'll just let the eggs start flowing again. You know
what I mean? This is like you know, yeah, yeah, but.

Speaker 4 (01:16:12):
No, but and I'm not saying that because I don't
think the bonus should be on man. I'm just saying, like,
that's the legitimate difficult scientifically. You know, you don't want
to have kids, she's ready to have kids but doesn't
want to go on birth control. Well, brother, it's condoms
or it's chucking duck, Like it's not a lot of.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
Man pull and pray. It worked for years. We can
do that, best, man, You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:16:34):
Yeah, but you're not about to go to an ex
Mormon woman and say, hey, I'm not who's your wife
and say I'm not ready for a baby yet We're
going to the clinic, Like yeah, Shi, it is not
going to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
Bro.

Speaker 6 (01:16:46):
I thought that was just a truly insane, insane especially
after like I'm like, mister progressive billionaires are inethicals, armies
that I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
Like things.

Speaker 7 (01:16:58):
Aggressive, and then the boem it gets to like women's rights.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
He's like, I don't, I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:17:03):
Know, owardly, identifying progressive man secretly, and then immediately back he.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
Said, we're not going to be I mean, he said,
I need sex.

Speaker 5 (01:17:14):
That is.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
That I'm enjoyable. You can do what you want with
your body. But also I don't like condom sex. What
he said, I understand how that may have come across
as a you know, an ultimatum you feel me, So
if that's what he meant, yeah, But also but I
mean what she was saying, well, I mean, I don't

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He's just saying, like, I don't want to funk without
with condoms you don't want So we're at we're at
a difficult you know what I'm saying, cross world right now?

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
You know what I mean. So Steven's got some ideas
for him. You heard of You ever know about her
under arm?

Speaker 5 (01:17:57):
Have you heard him?

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
But how do you feel about that? A little meat
right behind her ear?

Speaker 5 (01:18:03):
You never thought about that?

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
All right? So you never heard of septom play.

Speaker 5 (01:18:23):
Now to the to the Spicy, Ending to the spicy sandwich.
We have fucking Tyler and Ashley.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
Dog your boy, your boy Tyler. I thought he boys.

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
I thought he redeemed us, but he proved to be
a typical talent. Time will tell you she ain't looking
good right now. So okay, you know Jackson has looked good. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Jackson in the group chat and was like, yo, did
y'all there's some you know, TikTok detectives, you know, on
on some Love is Blonde ship talk about our boy

(01:18:56):
Taler Do you all want me to spill the beans?
And we had a discussion on there about that, right
and basically like the whole thing kind of this is
where I knew that it was going to be exposed
where we had the scene where they went back to
d C and there was the moment where Tyler and
and Ashley were like, you know, praying or whatever and

(01:19:17):
this motherfucker tearing up and ship and then they had
them on where they.

Speaker 5 (01:19:21):
Were talking about what they would name their kids.

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
I was like, ah, he.

Speaker 4 (01:19:24):
Also said while they were praying, protect our families, which
I think is when he started tearing.

Speaker 13 (01:19:33):
Yeah, yeah he is absolute and yeah, and they had
that and then they showed us that footage talking about
who gets the name who you know with their kids,
and then we didn't see a whole bunch of them.

Speaker 3 (01:19:46):
I was like, why would they just show us that
and then just focused so much on the other couples.
That's great television. And then the only other time we
saw them again was when we met Ashley's dad, who
was cool as fuck, like like a perfect step dad,
like pray for right.

Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
He looks like Jerry Rice, which I agree.

Speaker 4 (01:20:03):
With, y oh absolutely, I feel like we all got
He looks like locked in Jerry Rice too, not Jerry
Rice on bullshit, but like her dad might hunt him down,
you know what I mean, Like you could feel his
when you love your kids so much that you start crying,
talk about how much you love them, bro, there's other
things mixed up in that as a father, especially.

Speaker 3 (01:20:22):
Sure, did y'all ask for y'all wife's dad's permission, you know,
for his blessing?

Speaker 2 (01:20:28):
Yeah, y'all shit?

Speaker 4 (01:20:29):
Or no?

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
No, I would, And I don't know that I would
have respect.

Speaker 4 (01:20:34):
I proposed to shar when we were twenty one years old,
in our third year of college, and you know her dad.
I think her dad probably would have given it her
mom definitely would not have given it. Her mom is
the type of person who would want to be asked
for permission. Her dad grew up on a Pineapple dirotation
in Hawaii. Bro, Like he just we met each other.

(01:20:55):
He was like, you're a Niners fan. I was like
for sure, and he was like, you know, like we
just Her dad would was like one of my closest
friends from even before we you know. Yeah, but so no,
I did not, And shar specifically was like, don't ever
do some weirdo old fashioned ship like trying to ask
my dad for.

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
My hand decisions around here right right?

Speaker 3 (01:21:18):
Summer wanted me to get it. Wasn't gonna stop ship
if he said no. But Summer wanted me to go
the problem of you know, and I fun with her.
Step up, that's my dog like we homies, man, Like
I told you the cool ass motherfucker from Oakland, Bro,
Like that's my dog.

Speaker 5 (01:21:31):
So but yeah, I was just interested in that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
John, what what what? I want to hear a little
more from John? What would you how would that have gone?
Or what was it? Like? What was the decision? Did
rather make it clear to you she didn't want you
to do that nigga. I'm glad she's Indian. I didn't
go into the house until I said I was married.
He was getting married, nigga, right the nigga? What the fuck? What?

(01:22:02):
It was like, Hey, we get married, Okay, you know
what I mean. I couldn't even exist to I asked.

Speaker 3 (01:22:11):
I asked Summer's dad for his blessing after Christmas dinner
and I was and you'll know, I grew out, you know,
for the family on Christmas and I was like, bro,
I was putting ribs in my Cadillac to ask the
Oakland man to marry his daughter.

Speaker 5 (01:22:27):
I was like, this is the blackest shit I ever
did in my mother fucking life.

Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
You you you were you were like sircy or something.

Speaker 4 (01:22:33):
You have some witch powers. Though you could have asked
him for anything after you fucking grow for him.

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
You know, that's a good time for you know what
I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:22:43):
Let me ask you question, would you like to have
ready access to this type of cooking regularly?

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
And you're like, here's the best rib you've ever had?

Speaker 4 (01:22:51):
You know, by the way, while the endorphins are flowing.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
Stars, he wanted to marry. If you would ask him,
he would have said yes, that meant it's incredible.

Speaker 3 (01:23:06):
But so you know, back to Tyler and Ashley, you know,
they had the moment they met the dad. You know,
Ashley's out. I was like, you know, I'm with it, whatever, whatever,
And then we have the moment where we get the
big motherfucking reveal, the big cliffhanger, where we find out
that Tyler tells Ashley two weeks before they're getting married

(01:23:27):
that he has three kids and he says, he says
that they are sperm donor kids that he has. That
he's still and he's still active in their lives. And
he says that he had a lesbian friend, a lesbian
female friend, and you know, he gave her some babies
because she wanted some babies, and he's still active in

(01:23:49):
their life.

Speaker 5 (01:23:49):
That's what he's sticking with, can't you be clear?

Speaker 4 (01:23:52):
Based on the TikTok investigations, like he tried to half
break it to her and even that didn't go well.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
Each tried to tell her like before that happened or no,
because that's not the full truth according.

Speaker 4 (01:24:09):
To at least and I guess this is potentially spoilers
going foot, But according to the social media ship, that's
going around.

Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
I don't think that it is sperm donor. No there
reporting there.

Speaker 6 (01:24:20):
There's a couple of things here that I've found on
the internet. One an interview from Tyler saying he told
he wanted to tell her off camera.

Speaker 7 (01:24:27):
He's like, I couldn't think of the right moment to
tell her.

Speaker 2 (01:24:29):
He gave some bullshit, he said, I want to.

Speaker 6 (01:24:31):
Tell her off camera that I did tell her off
camera then as she was like, no, we are taking
this to camera, you psycho. And then the other parts
of it is there's a lot of mixed reporting, like
Facebook investigation reporting, but it seems as though he is
not just a sperm donor.

Speaker 4 (01:24:46):
There is right because because the because the mother, because
the first of all, because there's a legal custody dispute,
which is that's a matter of public record, and it's
actually been reopened since the episode's dropped. And then second
of all, the woman's mom I think it was, was
on TikTok saying no, he threw the quote he threw
the kids away a year ago.

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
That hasn't had any contact.

Speaker 3 (01:25:06):
That clip since y'all was from the grandmama of the babies. Yes,
but yeah, yeah, but you know, I feel like so
many people are saying, why would he be so active
in their life if he was a sperm donor blah
blah blah blah blah. And I don't think that's a
smoking gun necessarily because I would never personally do that.
But if I had a homegirl who wanted kids, and

(01:25:27):
I agree to it, like the one condition I'd have
is I need to have access to my kids, like
I'm the parent, Like that would be my one condition, right,
But I wouldn't, Like I said, it's just some some
shit I probably would never do. But if I did
decide to do, that would be my one condition. So
him being active in the kids' lives even though he was,
you know, quote unquote a sperm donor, I don't think
that's a smoking gun. Also the fact that he said
that was his lesbian friend. I've seen some pictures of

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her and.

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
She real you know.

Speaker 5 (01:25:52):
That that story holds up too. I'll just leave it
at that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
I ain't gonna lie. Yeah, yeah, that part, but but
I mean, you can't judge. I was basic on that,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:26:03):
But uh, I mean, I just I just it just
all the other shit just doesn't seem like it doesn't
add up to the story he told. Yeah, and then
also the fact that, like nigga, you went that long
without talking about kids period. That should have been that
should have been if you're talking about y'all talking to
me in the first meeting in the pod, maybe you

(01:26:23):
thought that, you know what I'm saying, like, you know,
telling somebody you had three kids would be you know
what I'm saying, some people wouldn't get to see.

Speaker 2 (01:26:31):
You who you are.

Speaker 1 (01:26:32):
And you might be right, nigga, but regardless, you have
to let people know that that is a big part
of your life. I couldn't imagine going a day without
talking about Shorty's you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:26:41):
You had three of them that you just absolutely agnored
for weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:26:44):
So, like, I mean, it could be true what he said,
but I don't give him the benefit of the doubt,
being that he's been so disingenuous.

Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
For the jump.

Speaker 3 (01:26:52):
Yes, he could, he could very much have told the
truth about you know, this was my lesbian friend who
I wanted to help have kids. He could have he
could be telling that you on that, but he's still
very much deceitful because he didn't. He wasn't up front,
period period, because.

Speaker 7 (01:27:04):
Because the whole thing not even a bad look necessarily
just keeping it from her.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
Yeah, I mean, I mean kids, three kids.

Speaker 1 (01:27:11):
I understand why somebody wouldn't want to sign up to
be that's a big that's a big so like I mean,
but I don't feel like he's anything's wrong with having
you know, three kids, you know what I'm saying. But
like I just feel like, yes, that's going to be
something that a lot of people don't want to sign
up for, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:27:30):
But like, regardless, you know that is not you know.

Speaker 1 (01:27:33):
Your responsibility is to be honest in this situation, and
he was nowhere near that.

Speaker 3 (01:27:37):
Yeah, and and I would have put that ship out front,
like as soon as kids came up, like period. Yeah,
I'm not quote unquote technically a father, but I do
have three children that I yeah, I was a surrogate
for that. I that I'm very much active with active.
And if you if you don't, you don't like like bro,
I would just never like. And and the whole thing
about about it, You know, you just can't say this

(01:27:59):
ship slipped your mind because whenever you're dating and kids
come up, like even if you don't have kids, you
always lean on ship like, well, now I might not
have kids, but you know I got some god kids,
or or I got some little cousins who I love
like they're my own, or or I got some nieces
and that everyone goes to that right and and bro,
these are your legitimate blood kids even though they're not.
I guess the social definition of your children because you know,

(01:28:20):
there's not that whole male contract with you and the
mother y'all, y'all are friends.

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
This is surrogate shit.

Speaker 3 (01:28:25):
But yeah, I feel like no one, no one would
overlook that once that topic comes up in good faith.

Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
Doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 7 (01:28:32):
Yeah, it was on the chat said where's your family, dude?

Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
Yeah, where's your family?

Speaker 4 (01:28:38):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
That is Tyler Bro. Tyler Bro is your family? You
lost your family, dude. I just just chosen one, man,
I just I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:28:51):
And also like if those regardless if you're active in
those kids' lives as a surrogate or if they're your kids,
you know, you have kids with the same woman out
of love, whatever the fuck, and you're just hiding them
like with the level of guilt, Like, not for a
second do I want my kids to think that I'm

(01:29:11):
not completely thankful and proud of them, you know what
I mean, And so for him to be hiding that way,
that's just that's so disgusting. As soon as I saw that,
every time I looked at him, I just saw I
just I mean, maybe I probably felt how she did.
I'm like, you nasty, dirty motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (01:29:30):
Every time he was on camera, like a dam see
the fuck, nigga. You know what I'm saying. You see
the fuck? You can't just see the fuck? Man?

Speaker 4 (01:29:43):
I just even the thing I don't understand, even if
you don't care about your kids, which just seems like
he has a different relationship with his kids than we do,
John or whatever, how could he enjoy the time he's
spending with her with that hanging over their head?

Speaker 2 (01:29:56):
That's what?

Speaker 4 (01:29:56):
Like, how are you on the camel like having fun?
How are you like you know, how are you praying together?
Not just like shitting yourself with anxiety about like oh
I just said families like that, right, like yeah, yeah,
let me is the.

Speaker 2 (01:30:12):
Bad guy and the tast cycle.

Speaker 6 (01:30:14):
The track is correctly pointing out it's not just deceitful,
it's not just disrespectful. It is emotionally manipulate, and it
is it is is intentional and emotionally manipulative.

Speaker 2 (01:30:22):
It's not just like accidental.

Speaker 4 (01:30:23):
Because because because I do think he I don't think
he is a sperm donor. I think that he tried
to like half break it to her, like I'm gonna
tell her I was a.

Speaker 2 (01:30:32):
Sperm donor and I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:30:33):
That's why I wanted to tell her off camera too,
because it was a flat out life ro I didn't
want to document it. And then she brought it on
camera and he had it kind of own up to
the ship. Now he's not I hee caught up in
his lives.

Speaker 2 (01:30:42):
Nigga, the fuck.

Speaker 4 (01:30:46):
He let the you know, like we were talking about
the Barbie movie. He's a he's Aaron Donald Tyler. Aaron
Donald Tyler let us down, bro.

Speaker 3 (01:30:54):
He was supposed to be the prince who was promised.
That was the first thing I said. This is doing
great for the name. Time isn't fucking nineteen ninety two?

Speaker 2 (01:31:04):
Ass Tyler?

Speaker 4 (01:31:05):
Right there?

Speaker 3 (01:31:05):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:31:06):
Not a lot of generation.

Speaker 4 (01:31:07):
But but and then also is it true is it
like usually as true as it was last year in
this year, that like love is blind, is reflective of
reality because the best, the most attractive, best women get
treated the worst.

Speaker 2 (01:31:20):
Is this historically true on the show or has it
just been the last two seasons because I Ashley is like, yeah,
out of ten bro, he should have figured, he should
have figured yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:31:34):
I mean I think that's just I don't think that. Yeah,
I think that is that's just life period.

Speaker 3 (01:31:38):
I think most I think there's a very huge proportion
of men who are terrible versus like women who are terrible.

Speaker 4 (01:31:44):
You know what I'm saying. I firmly believe that from
my interactions, should have told her let's run away to France,
you know what I mean? Like when he saw her,
it should have been like, I gotta really make an
effort if I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:31:53):
Going to be emotionally manipulent, if I gotta turn it
all the way to one hundred.

Speaker 1 (01:31:57):
What's wild is like seeing this Like people talk about
how nasty the streets are, right, and I always see
people talking about their experiences, and I'd be like, who
the fuck are y'all fucking with? Like, who are y'all
fucking with? Like I don't, like, I don't meet people
that are this bad. You feel what I'm saying, Right,
you know what I mean, But like seeing like this

(01:32:20):
on television, Like I feel like the streets are much
nastier maybe now than when we were younger, or maybe
they were nasty than I thought, and I just wouldn't
as deep in them as motherfuckers were, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:32:31):
I think the sad truth is, and this is something
I think about quite a bit, is like just with
the numbers, the percentages of how many men are out
there committing sexual crimes or whatever else is I do
think it is that it's like there's just people who
walk among us every day that are like good demons.

Speaker 2 (01:32:47):
And I mean you see you see it with this.

Speaker 4 (01:32:48):
These people are on television, These people are on camera
like twenty four hours a day or whatever, and there's
people who hid this shit till however deep you know. So,
I but that's the sad truth, bro, because I know
when I was younger, like when I was a teenager,
I was in college, I was one of those like
a man who hits a woman is a isn't a
real man, or any man who couldn't talk to his
kids as a monster. And the older you get, you're like,

(01:33:10):
they're not monsters, they're just men. Like what just what
that average like, It's just the average person is worse
than we think that they are, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:33:19):
We thought we could see those people. We thought there
were tails, right, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:33:24):
That's why when when Tyler talked about the percentage of
man versus what women understand as such a younger age
than we do, that that's not the case that you
that you can't tell, you know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (01:33:34):
And I think that's whole in the woods with the
bear versus a man thing, that was very illustrative of
the awareness that women have of the dangers of men.

Speaker 2 (01:33:43):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:33:43):
Yeah, there was like I remember seeing like a list
of like the creepiest things on the planet and men
were third.

Speaker 2 (01:33:54):
Just men like you know what I'm saying, because at
least thousand kinds of bugs like that. Bro, you know
what I mean. Whatever, But have you seen a fucking man?
You know what I'm saying. We're both hairless bears, you
know what I mean. Motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (01:34:12):
See a white tire, you know, on the on a
tire on the prowl, nigga. See a man run towards
a tiger? You know what I'm saying. You got a
better chance to see Nigga hate ship dog crazy?

Speaker 4 (01:34:24):
Have there been women like I feel like the two
seasons I've seen, it's always like a handful of dudes.

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
On the show who are the worst?

Speaker 4 (01:34:32):
Like what is the ratio just on this show of
secretly horrible women to secretly horrible man?

Speaker 3 (01:34:38):
We had that whole little friend group last season. Remember
them two chicks who were fucking terrible. I forget their names,
but yeah, it's it's every season we get like two
or three terrible dudes. And yeah, you know, and like
I said, the worst women are just annoying, like Monica right,
like like like the the Monica Stevens. Yeah, the Dynamics,

(01:34:59):
like the perfect example, are annoying.

Speaker 2 (01:35:05):
Hannah's kind of unkind. Hannah's kind of unkind, you know
what I mean. But it's a body in a closet.
It's nick like a hundred for this nigga hid three
children three.

Speaker 1 (01:35:23):
We got on fucking Drake for hiding a child, but
he was in a child's life. This motherfucker hid three
kids and dipped on them.

Speaker 2 (01:35:32):
He's a fucking demon.

Speaker 3 (01:35:34):
Who doesn't who doesn't brag on twins every chance? The
nigga what twins a secret.

Speaker 1 (01:35:40):
Nigga, he's the Come on, man, Bro, you got three
kids you were raising, like that's the nigga like you
hid three like the their names didn't slip out of
your mouth once, Like you're a psychopath. Right, you're talking
about praying for the family and don't mention your fucking
ChIL trick.

Speaker 2 (01:36:01):
Or you're talking about naming kids. You're talking about well
row and not even talking.

Speaker 1 (01:36:06):
About the kids you've already have on this planet. Bro,
every time I look at this nigga, I'm like, bruh,
you as a bitch dog.

Speaker 2 (01:36:14):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:36:16):
God Lee, I was watching this golf shit then the
motherfucker said he said, a motherfucker can't beat me in
anything but being a fuck nigger. That's what he said.
I'm looking, Bro, I'm like, I subscribed that. I heard
that ship like y'all I need that. But this is
a ten out of ten fuck nigga. Bro, You feel

(01:36:38):
what I'm saying. Dog nasty, nasty, nasty, no respect for
nothing he's doing right now, Bro, Tyler, period.

Speaker 4 (01:36:44):
This has been a very long part already, But what
are your expectations for next next week's drops?

Speaker 5 (01:36:49):
Ah, okay, so I guess I guess we can do.
We can do our whole little things.

Speaker 2 (01:36:55):
Have the lines moved on the on the couple of
lines of move for sure? All right, Steven Andmonica, they're done.

Speaker 5 (01:37:01):
There could put.

Speaker 3 (01:37:03):
Nick bro like I said, I thought they were like
if we were talking about getting married, I thought they'd
be like plus ten thousand like the move the line
of his moved.

Speaker 5 (01:37:11):
I put them at plus like three thousand right now, brom.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
But yeah, but John the.

Speaker 4 (01:37:20):
Three though, I mean, go ahead, Do y'all feel like
they're not going to get married or you're just saying
you don't like them, like, cause that's I don't like
them more than I did after the last one. But
I do feel much more that it's likely that they
get married than I did after the last drop.

Speaker 2 (01:37:35):
I don't think they're guessing.

Speaker 1 (01:37:36):
I think, yeah, yeah, I think they're just I think
that to sign up for that for a lifetime seems crazy,
even for those crazy kids, you know what I.

Speaker 2 (01:37:45):
Mean, Like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:37:48):
It just seems like a little too much, Like, yes,
I want to make this work, but I don't want
to get married.

Speaker 2 (01:37:54):
I want to try, but not married in two weeks.
That's a lot.

Speaker 5 (01:37:58):
That's a lot, So Gean Taylor, they were like minus
ten thousand.

Speaker 3 (01:38:03):
I will say I think the San Diego wrinkle, I
think that was that has a little something. I'd put
them at like minus eighty five hundred.

Speaker 6 (01:38:10):
Now, Okay, still her mom maybe doesn't like really fun
with him, but I still think they're gonna get it.

Speaker 4 (01:38:17):
I also, they're the only couple they showed in the
next uh coming up episodes where they like are at
a wedding.

Speaker 6 (01:38:25):
Right, a lot of like dresses shots and altar shots,
but actually they are there present.

Speaker 14 (01:38:31):
Yeah, the one I've just seen dressing altarshots of people
that never made it, Like we saw Megan Fox in
the last one, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:38:42):
Yeah, but we but she never made it to the altars,
so like they'll do they do those type of things too. True.

Speaker 4 (01:38:47):
Yeah, I just feel like with the whatever that couple was,
that was like perfect for each other, and like Charge
showed me a picture from last year. Charge showed me
a picture of him on Instagram. They're still like running
around the house giggling with each other every day.

Speaker 2 (01:38:58):
Shit.

Speaker 5 (01:38:59):
Yeah, yeah, they try to throw a head Johnny and.

Speaker 2 (01:39:04):
Amy Amy. They tried to throw a headfake in the
edit with them too.

Speaker 4 (01:39:09):
That was like, oh, they're worried about the Actually I
think it was a birth control They're worried about, like
what they're gonna have kids in the birth control And
it was like people who like each other and are
committed to each other are more likely to figure the
question of San Diego and whatever else. She's asking him
to move to San Diego. I understand that's different from
where she's coming from, but like, of the places to

(01:39:29):
be asked to move to San Diego would be have
to be like the top five.

Speaker 2 (01:39:34):
Things, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:39:34):
And he's very smart, you know what I mean. So
he knows they have money and they're gonna be yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's like, come on, bro, his.

Speaker 2 (01:39:43):
Family's got understand.

Speaker 4 (01:39:44):
His family is gonna get a condo in San Diego
and be out there two weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:39:47):
Out of every month.

Speaker 1 (01:39:48):
Like, Bro, when they when they put up to that
motherfucking house, is that becauses Fredericksburg because that motherfucker look beautiful?

Speaker 2 (01:39:55):
Is that like a like a cheaper house in general?
Because it's in a country or place.

Speaker 3 (01:40:00):
Olsburg is about an hour from DC an hour from
its middle of fucking nowhere.

Speaker 1 (01:40:04):
Virginia's so okay, so you can get a good side.
But that mother, that s point, that joint looks pristine,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:40:09):
I'm looking at Zillo for Fredericksburg right now, brother, people
from LA County, Like there should be a like thing
that Like if you live in LA County, Zillow doesn't
let you look at housing.

Speaker 2 (01:40:19):
Period because you're gonna be wondering why. You know what
I'm saying, gun laws, Who cares? You know what I mean, Like,
we'll figure it out.

Speaker 4 (01:40:28):
I don't need I don't need good ethnic food that there.

Speaker 1 (01:40:30):
Actually right right right, it's right. I'm gonna be honest
by something. What I saw in the mama's face, You
feel me?

Speaker 2 (01:40:42):
Yeah, for sure, I saw, I saw. I don't know,
like you know what I mean? Like, do is Fredericksburgh
have a history of like Fridsburgh have history of?

Speaker 4 (01:40:49):
She's got an underbyte built for She's got an under
for a clan hood. Bro, she has an under byte
built for a clan hood.

Speaker 2 (01:40:56):
That's just it.

Speaker 1 (01:40:56):
I don't say obviously, I'm not going that far, but
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:40:59):
I wouldn't want to be in that household. I'll tell
you that.

Speaker 1 (01:41:02):
You know what I mean, coming from his mom, right right,
I wouldn't My mama wouldn't let me spend the night
over there.

Speaker 2 (01:41:08):
I'll tell you that. You know what I mean, she'd
be like, he can come over and play with us.

Speaker 4 (01:41:13):
Yeah, Like I said, you would not want to live there, Bro.
I could afford to live there, though, Yeah, I could
afford to live quite comfortable.

Speaker 1 (01:41:22):
I mean, if you could afford to live in Long Be,
you could afford to live anywhere. That's how fucked up
it is out here, you.

Speaker 2 (01:41:27):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:41:28):
Yeah, Like Fredericksburg had a fucking block in the middle
of their downtown from like the slave auction, and that
shit got removed like during summer twenty twenty, and Fredericksburg
was going crazy that yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:41:38):
Yeah, yeah, yes, I mean, but you can sit kind
of see that in her Yeah you know.

Speaker 3 (01:41:42):
What I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:41:44):
Yeah, she was trying to do the calculation on how
how Asian or how Chinese Taylor was Like she she
was like sizing her up.

Speaker 2 (01:41:52):
What was the fraction? Yeah? You see three fits speaking?
All right? So Tim and Alex where we are with them?
Here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:42:06):
If I didn't see the previews of the next drop,
I would have felt that they might be on their way.

Speaker 5 (01:42:10):
But we saw some ship down those peoples, and it's like, bro, Yeah, I.

Speaker 6 (01:42:14):
Mean I think they have to be The line has
to be moving more in the direction of yes, simply
because Alex is like, I cannot I will not marry
you unless my dad gives you his blessing and he did.

Speaker 5 (01:42:23):
Yeah, like overwhelmingly.

Speaker 7 (01:42:25):
So that is like has to move the.

Speaker 2 (01:42:26):
Line in that direction.

Speaker 7 (01:42:27):
I think, even if it's not all the way in
that direction, that has to move that that way.

Speaker 2 (01:42:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:42:31):
I think I figured we'll put him out about plus
five hundred. Wouldn't it be all the way to surprise?
But I still will be a bit.

Speaker 2 (01:42:39):
Yeah, I would be surprised as well.

Speaker 3 (01:42:40):
Yeah, Marissa and ramsays, I feel like they were all
pick them, you know, at first, because like I said,
we hadn't seen them. We hadn't seen them testivating, they had,
you know, a power Puff schedule we hate. We hadn't
seen them testavating, hadn't going on the road.

Speaker 2 (01:42:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:42:53):
We saw we saw them get rough drop right, Yeah,
we saw we saw pull out a few nail biders, right,
So where are we at with them?

Speaker 1 (01:43:03):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (01:43:03):
I'm leaning on the side if they do not get married.
I think that's why I'm announced it. I don't see
it happening.

Speaker 2 (01:43:10):
It's just it's the military stuff seems a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:43:14):
I mean, it seems like they're it's not only that,
you know, she's uh, you know what, ex military and
all of that and all the friends. It's like it's
like it seems like personality wise, like I had an
uncle who went to the military, came back.

Speaker 2 (01:43:25):
He was pro black, like fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:43:27):
All this shit, you know what I mean, Like you
know what I mean, he saw some shit he ain't
fucked with and was like he was in the Navy too,
you know what I mean. So, but so it's not
just X Navy. It's just a personality. I think their
personality different. Like this dude's bringing out you know, you know,
she'said she was a black Mormon and he's talking about
James Baldwin.

Speaker 2 (01:43:42):
I mean, that's a very different life. Yeah, yeah, you
know every day, you know that's gonna weigh on you.

Speaker 4 (01:43:48):
I just think, like, what what interests me about the
show is that, like the longer shar and I have
been together, like more than half our lives at this
point in twenty twenty two years we've been together. Like,
the more you understand the value of the experiment, the
pheromones will get you so far, bro, Like pheromones and
everything else, they will get you so far for sure.
And I do think that they're important, Like I think

(01:44:09):
the attraction and.

Speaker 2 (01:44:10):
On that is very important. But the truth is, shar
and I talk about this all the time.

Speaker 4 (01:44:14):
If people ask us for advice, we just like, we're
really lucky because we all know people who took a
hard left turn or hard right turn whatever when they're
thirty five. And now I'm into the stuff Steven's into,
or as it turns out, I want to have sex
with like forty different guys a month, or you know,
like marriages don't. But hey, bro, hey yeah. But like
you see friends, like the older you get, you see

(01:44:35):
friends where it's like, oh, this is some shit that
took them down, that's like just one of them. As
you get older, you want different things and just back
lucky enough. And I do think luck is as big
a part of as anything else. Like we just haven't
neither of us have grown in a direction that the
other one couldn't go with them.

Speaker 2 (01:44:51):
And the truth is, the.

Speaker 4 (01:44:52):
Pheromones are as they're as there for Ramses and Marissa
as they've probably ever been for two people, you know,
who met each other on planet Earth. But I feel
like the pheromones will get you through the military thing
or the birth control thing, you know, like the pheromones
can't get you through. Oh, there is a fundamental incompatibility,
you know what I mean. And it feels like they're

(01:45:13):
carrying too much weight on a boat that's not built
sturdy enough to use a naval analogy.

Speaker 2 (01:45:19):
Also, the pheromones are gonna hit the same if you know,
if blocking them or if they're wrapped up wrapped up
in some brother. All right, we've been going for an hour.

Speaker 1 (01:45:34):
Also, condom smell, Like, condom smell is a bad smell.

Speaker 2 (01:45:38):
You smell like they should at least fix that.

Speaker 1 (01:45:41):
Yeah, that's the reason why they shouldn't least fix condom smell,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:45:46):
One of the worst smells.

Speaker 3 (01:45:48):
Last last talent, Ashley, I think we were all on
the on the boat of we didn't think it was
going to happen because Tyler was going to realize that
she wasn't pouring into him the way that she needed to.

Speaker 2 (01:46:00):
But the ship doesn't change, like I actually a low
down dirty dog.

Speaker 3 (01:46:04):
I still I'm still on the side that they don't
get married, So I don't think that moves the line
that much. But the dynamic has shifted to where it's like, Bro,
Ashley is not fucking stupid, She's not gonna do this.

Speaker 2 (01:46:13):
No, Also, I hope she doesn't. She don't do this.

Speaker 1 (01:46:18):
I don't think she will, but like I'm actively rooting
against them doing it, you know what I'm saying. Like,
I don't know if I like, maybe there's some couples
where I was like, this is some bullshit, you know
what I mean, But I didn't really care enough if
they did it or not, you know what I mean.
I don't want her to deal with this goofy nigga.
Keep him away from people, period.

Speaker 2 (01:46:35):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:46:36):
She's gonna leave him, but her dms are gonna look
like a cheesecake factor in many Bro, she's gonna be
able to choose anything she wants at any time.

Speaker 2 (01:46:43):
It's gonna look like, uh, what's your boy name? The
red the Italian nigga? What he what he has? Wanted
to look like what he wanted to look like. You
feel me?

Speaker 1 (01:46:52):
What's his name, Steven? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's what
she bro. You know what I'm saying. She gonna be
Yeah yeah, he's the chief.

Speaker 2 (01:47:01):
Gave fact menu, all different flavors and all different cultures. Nigga,
what do I want today? What country do I want
to visit today?

Speaker 5 (01:47:12):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:47:15):
Good for her too.

Speaker 4 (01:47:18):
With that weird Thank you for captaining our thorough Love
is Blind recap. Excellent job as always your note, sticked ass.
We will be back on Monday, not knowing a Sunday show,
which is my fault. Apologies to everyone who look forward
to spending their Sundays with us. Will be back Monday
morning with the sports weekend recap and uh and then
we for sure know next week.

Speaker 2 (01:47:37):
We'll do the Love is Blind.

Speaker 4 (01:47:38):
Recap after the next drop, but we'll have this schedule
up on the Socials after we figure out, and we
will see y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:47:44):
In a couple of days. Hope everyone has a great weekend. Bye.
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