December 19, 2021 • 57 mins
The guys debate what the NBA should do about the latest COVID-19 outbreak in the league, congratulate Urban Meyer on getting fired, and talk about fake boxing that’s actually real boxing before welcoming rapper Chris Crack to the show.
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entire fucking world has COVID. We're talking about that and
what the NBA is gonna do going forward, and we
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podcast A right as always, Jenkinson Jones is hosted by
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my good friends Dragonfly Jones, Zak A Tyler, everybody a
good le, Jethro Jenkins, a K. John was Aunt Bubbs,
I'm Guardy b Ak, Mike and Uh. I said it
up top, but it does kind of feel like every
person that you've heard of has COVID at the current
moment um. So that's what we that's where we're gonna start. Uh.
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Looking at last year's All Star team, I mean it's
like more than half of the dudes who are All
Stars have COVID are in COVID protocols currently. Yes, I
mean it's that crazy. Yeah, ship is wild. Now. We
saw them postpone, what five or six games today. Like,
I do think that a shutdown for a few weeks
is coming, but I think that the NBA is limping
to that fucking Christmas slate. They're gonna get there. They
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got to give those advertisers that bag. However the funk
they gotta get it, And I do think a shutdown
probably happens after that. But we're getting those Christmas games
the same way. They wouldn't let us miss them last year,
and they wanted to start it around that time. The
same thing this year that, you know what I mean,
Like that's just there's just too much money there. But
like I personally know like six people that called it
last week, you know what I'm saying, That ship was
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putting hands and feet on Zac, you know what I mean.
Like like I was like, I want to clown you
because I'm gonna say it here, and they caught it
at a Santa Bar crawl and I'm like, I really
want to fire your ass up because that's very on
brand for Zach. But I'm gonna wait to that motherfucker
stop jumping your ass, you know what I mean? But yeah,
like dog, but when when it comes to the NBA, dog,
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Like I mean, dude, we're watching G League games. We're
watching G League games, dog, you know what I mean?
Like you feel me like this, We're gonna watch with Christmas. Dude.
The Bulls are missing nine players. Nine players. One dude
said he's showering with with the mask on, and the
next day he called Kobe quickly you know what I mean.
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Next David protocols were quickly you know what I mean?
Like this is this is serious, bro. I think maybe
the entire nation may be heading towards that way too.
It's just moving too fast. Okay, let's talk about let's
do something dangerous and talk about what we think should happen.
Because I don't know, Tyler, I think I disagree with
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you because I don't think what I don't think businesses
or people have any have any Shut the funk up,
it's not true. I disagreed with Tyler's predictions many times.
That's not true. Don't say that. Okay, go ahead, how
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dare you. I don't think that big businesses or the
average American family has and I'm not talking about people
on Twitter. I'm talking about the average people in the country.
I don't think there's any tolerance left for shutdowns or
lockdowns of almost any kind, like I think it personally,
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I think it's more likely, and the NBA floated this
as a little trial balloon last week. I think it's
more likely that they say, if you have the ship,
but you're vaccinated and boosted and you don't have any symptoms,
you could play. I think that I think that's more
likely than that they actually pull the switch and shut
everything down for two weeks. And I think the NFL
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is already kind of moving in that direction a little bit.
I think the fact that they're postponing games is that
because we have to remember when when they did the
um you know, the shutdown in fucking and then when
they when they did that whole fucking blitz of one season.
The reason they let that ship fly in we have
to have this ship wrapped up for the Olympics, right
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Like that was why they couldn't postpone shit or anything there.
But they've shown that they are willing to, you know, push,
you know, because these games that they're postponing they getting
tacked onto the end of the schedule. The regular season
is going to be extended here, right. There's nothing that
that we're working against here. And in the regular season,
the finals are probably gonna end like the fucking middle
of July, the way she is looking right about now. Right. So,
I think that the fact that they've shown that they're
willing to postponemies, that they probably would be willing to say,
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let's shut this ship down for two or three weeks,
get this fucking spread, fucking contained, and then we don't
have to do this ship anymore. The postponent that is
the wildest part of that statement was the fact that
the Olympics actually happened, because I forgot that really happened
last year. I forgot that should happen. Um, you know, yeah,
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and I don't know. I mean, we're we will, we
will find out. It does seem like from what And
I'm obsessive about this year because we have two kids
in school who are now fully vaccinated. You know, my
wife and I are both boosted, but we were stretched
out about it this school year, sending them back before
they were able to get the vaccine. Um. And what
everyone says seems to be saying is they're predicting the
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spike to be mid January, so it will be a
much faster up and down than the previous waves just
because of it's less people are going to hospital, or
I should say a smaller percentage of people who are
infected are going to go to the hospital. The fact
that so many people are either vaccinated or have had
COVID does mean that there is more natural immunity against
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severe responses. But I think that's why I can see
the NBA in the NFL being like, yeah, no one
wants to watch a G League game. I can. It
seems more likely to me that they would ask Kevin
Durant if he'd rather play then, you know then that
they would say let's not have any basketball for two
weeks um in January. But I don't know. I mean,
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I wouldn't be that surprised by a shutdown because I
can see the players union being very public about going.
You told us this virus was so serious that we
had to do X X X and X too play.
You can't fucking tell us now that this new variant
is less fatal, so therefore we should be out on
the court with the ship. The NBA is a business,
and it's really hard to sell a product without the
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motherfucker this averaging thirty nine points of fucking game. Okay,
you know what I mean, Like he is I mean that,
I mean I could see that, but I mean, what
the the thing about this one at least is that, um,
it's more like other viruses and the fact that it is,
you know, more contagious also it's it's it's more mild,
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you know what I mean. So I think with Delta,
you know, it was weird that it was stronger and
more contagious. It was, you know, but I don't know
what's gonna happen gee this ship. I just I think
I think I think that we all kind of realized.
You said, like the nation doesn't want to lockdown. You
think the lation the nation is against that type of ship.
I think we're all just kind of realizing this is
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our reality, you know what I mean, Like it's not
going anywhere. You know what I'm saying, Get the vacky
and then just you know, sit some prayers up. You
feel me Like, I don't know where you guys are.
I'll say I'll say this about my family on the podcast.
Where we are is we we got the vaccines. We
got my wife and I have the booster. Our kids
are fully vaccinated. If it's some motherfucker's out there who
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are not taking steps to protect themselves this deep into
the pandemic, My patients and sympathy and empathy meters are
low as fuck for those people. And you know, I'm
not talking about the families of those people, absolutely, but
as far as all that, Like, my sympathy is with
our friends who are nurses that are about to have
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to go through another way where they're still telling us
almost everyone that's in the ICU with them is unvac
stated and the vaccine has been out for almost a year.
So for me, I'm like my mom asked me, She's like,
can I still come down with the stuff? I said, fu, Yeah,
We're not missing another Christmas with Grandma. My kids are
gonna miss anymore school. We went to Disneyland with the
mass on and everything last week, like we sat in
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the house for a year and a half. I mean,
I'm strict over here. Bro. I'm like, you're strict as
fun as you should be because you're thinking about protecting
your family and your and your daughter obviously is too
young to be protect you get some vacky I think
she'll get some vaccinations, like in the next two weeks.
But yeah, I'm like, yo, we need we need a
negative COVID test. You know what I mean, are you
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vaccinated if not? Double mask and this motherfucker like making
you know them holes in each mask half is big,
you feel what I'm saying. Like, I'm pretty strict around here.
I mean We've been invited to places. I was like, yeah,
we'll go, and then when when the all macrons already
hit and I'm like, yeah, it's just not happening. You know,
it's just not safe. So I don't know, man, I mean,
I'm really fine with the lockdown ge like I feel
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bad for that. She's a more social person. I mean,
I have my little bouts, but for the most part,
I don't like niggas anyway. I don't like ship, I
don't go outside and Earl swear shirt Feel Me one
of my favorite, my favorite Earl albums and one of
my favorite albums. So yes, that's me. Yeah, I mean,
that's that's pretty much where I'm at. Like, you know,
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lockdown suck, but I'm not stressed about it, like like
I'm i'd be. I'm worried about you know, cats like
Jackson who are like you know what I'm saying, going
through this ship for the second time in like three years. Like,
don't I don't know what early twenties me. I don't
know how I would have dealt with this ship, but
oh washtup. Me is fine with it, you know what
I mean? I know how to deal with it. I'd
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have been stupid, I'd be vacky, but I've been dumb.
I've been going. I would have called it would have
been I would have called it a Santa par You
know what I'm saying, Like you feel me, you know
what I mean. I think that's where my like this
deep into the pandemic. That's where my anger comes from.
What I was angry about early on was I didn't
feel like we were doing enough for for kids and
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for for uh. I don't know what the politically correct
terms underserved communities or whatever, but basically, we threw black
kids and Mexican kids and some own kids in Long
Beach under the bus because we shut down schools and
every public service that they used. It was their tether
to nutrition, etcetera. So I didn't feel like we built
in enough things to take care of those people. What
I'm angry about now is just my own kids, just
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like these dudes missed school for a year, like they
didn't you know, they didn't get to play sports for
a year. Like you're talking about an eight and a
six year old. That's their whole memory. My kids don't
remember life before masks or COVID or whatever. And I
that's the world. I mean, that's the world they're going
to grow up in. But I'm not prepared for let's
just close schools back now for a month or you
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know whatever else. To me at this point, it's like
this vaccine has been out, and if you are, you're
playing Russian Roulette with the virus. That's your business. I
don't know, buddy, Buddy, let's talk about those Christmas games?
Are they gonna be? I mean, are we gonna watch them?
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I don't think Nets without Katie. I do completely agree
with Tyler. They will. They will sign the three of
us up to play for the Nets before they cancel
a single Christmas game show the show they did that
ship when ADULTA was whooping Nigga's ass. Stay with like, bro,
but it's Christmas, you know what I mean? The market
of dollars too crazy. Shit, I love all the sports
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ahead I'm gonna say that the Christmas games are gonna
go down. Regarless, They're gonna go down every year because
that's like their second biggest fucking chip when they put
on that they put on the table for you know,
TV deals. It's playoffs, and then it's the Christmas game,
you know what I mean? So those Christmas games happen
in regardless. Bro, how much money do they make off
the Christmas games? Like competitive playoffs? I know, like the
playoffs as a whole probably make more money, obvious because
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it's more games. When you when you say they, you
mean the podcast networks for the NBA is n B
A the NBA? Like, I wonder how much how much
of the Tyler is right that I do think it's
the second thing behind the playoffs. So to an extent,
the broadcast deal itself is probably pretty heavily tied to
the existence of those games, which what's the what's the
what's their deal with ESPN, ABC and n T N
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T hold on A Sorry TV, we lost ESPN YouTube
TV just lost the listeners to watch it. Some watch.
The NBA's current TV broadcasting contract expires in two thousand
twenty four, but they're already negotiating blah. Blah blah. The
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current broadcasting contracts started in two thousand sixteen, and it's
reportedly worth a total of twenty four billion dollars. The
kids them, that's what they say. Story from September NBA
aiming for new TV deal worth seventy five billion dollars
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over good God Almighty having money. Goddamn. I was prepared
for that number to be bigger than I was prepared
for that number to be, But I was not prepared
for it to be that much bigger than prepared for
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Jesus Christ seventy damn. Wow, that's that's stuff to wrap
my head around. Let's talk about something funny. Urban Meyer
got fired. Finally you did it, and it paid off
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for you. I think nothing in the world could be
funnier to me, truly than the ultimate competitor meathead college football,
Mr Competition, Mr. We gotta go harder than the other
guy get taken down for kicking his kicker in the leg.
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I honestly think it's the funniest thing that's ever happened.
Said y'all were pro Urban after that. No, No, that's
not thinking that far. I said. I said, this is
not going to turn the tide. Of public opinion against Irman.
I said, it probably helps him. I said, because football
culture is a violent culture, and no one gives a
funk about kickers, So that a lot of my fuckers, Wow,
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Urban kick the kicker. He might be with the ship,
you know what I'm saying. That's how a lot of
motherfucker's thought about that. I'm sure a lot of motherfuckers
that kicker should have made his ass, but he didn't
because he's a kicker. That's why I know what he's
about kickers. I hate the niggodi square off and take
his feet off the ground. Nigga punches. Man, think out
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here kicking fun that dude. I hate a kicking ass nigger. Man.
I just one thing that's funny to me is everyone
going like, well, imagine if your boss were to kick you.
I don't work at a job. That's the NFL, bro,
You know I was doing beat his ass. No, I
would have beat his ass, but I don't have. But
that's the structure. The NFL is more like the military
than it is like my job. You know what I mean.
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These dudes are fucking crazy. If you ever been around
a NFL team, if Harber would have kicked you, he
would be like he got jumped after that, mom, So
I would have had cleats on face if if he
would have kicked me. But the funniest quote in sports
history is the kicker said, hey, man, you can't kick me,
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and Urban said a quote, I'm the headball coach. I'll
kick you one of the funk I want. Then like,
but he said ball coach. That speaks to like, you
know a particular you know time period. I'm the headball coach.
You know what I mean? That is some sec ship
to say he need to take his ass back to college. Bro,
No one talks like that in the promsch Danny Spurry
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aspect South Carolina or some ship. Bro. That nigger really
let it grow. Man, kick he should be out of him. Bro.
That's and then went to the newspaper and told on himself.
He made himself look sickly not urban weird as dude.
Everybody in that situation. I hate that. I hate to
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kicking ass gonna get kicked and then tell people we
got kicked. Nick, you let a kicking a windout, and
you are a kicker. If anyone could offset king, you
might have had hands, but you got feet. You could have. Really,
you don't put put a boot on that nigger could
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have seen him like ten yards. You feel me. At
least he got kicked. He went to the paper and
told him he got kicked. He called the Tampa Bay
Times and said, you'll never believe what Urban Meyer didn't
to me, and they would home. He was another end,
holding the phone cover, laughing like a motherfucker like nigg
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I don't know as a reporter talking to an NFL player,
I don't care if it's a kicker or putter. I
don't know as a reporter how you don't have to
mute the phone because you're laughing when he gives you
the I'll kick you whenever the funk I want question.
I just he told you what I remember? Can you
write that out for me so I make sure I'm
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hearing you. Cor I know I've said this before, but
I remember when my little brother got flamed so bad
somebody called him SpongeBob square head in third in second grade,
I think something like that, and he told me, and
I had to, you know, because I was laughing, like
damn on the bus this morning. That's something second grade,
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his weight class with that one. He actually heard. I
was like, you ran into that one known that nick
he said it, and I put the pone away like
my mama actually said, don't laugh, but they call it
your brother sponge. But and she started laughing when she
told me. You know, if a nigga he made my
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mama and her youngest son, dog, that nig is a god.
He's somewhere making somebody cry right now. Dog, you know
what I mean anyway, But it's the same ship, you
know what I mean straight laughing on the other things
like bitch, please do come on well? Final final ruling,
Urban Meyer. That's the devil. That's that's a devil. Bangs
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the cavil. That's the devil he just missed. Um, let's
talk about fake boxing a boxing. Um. Do you want
to talk about Jake Paul first or about Frank Gore first? Tyler,
Frank Gore looks like he looks like he was like
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he was in his over and said the whole fucking
bout like like he looked like he had no idea
what the fun he was doing out there. Dryn Williams
has done like m M a training and we kind
of saw the between those two in that fight. And
then Darren beat the funk out of him and then
had some words. It was him his hisself where he said,
I'm gonna go sit my old dumbass down and leave
this to the professionals. And he said that after whooping
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the man's ass. So that just tells you how demanding
boxing is. Bro for real. It makes me feel like
Gored never has sparred without his helmet on, you know
what I'm saying, Like I don't know with the head gear,
you know what I mean, Like because he was in there, like, whoa,
this really hurts. I would never get hit in the
head without no motherfucking head gear, and it hurts with
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head gear, you know what I mean. But then with
the faces he was making. Oh God, even when he
got when he got pushed, he looked like he was like,
do I gotta get back up? Ain't somebody's supposed to
help me? Where the rap that? Jesus Christ, Jess. I
don't know, but but but I thought Gore was gonna
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whoop him just out of this fact that he's just
he's a running back dude, you know, like he's been
beat up his entire life career. He got in that
ring and all boy was putting them things on him
and he just had nothing. You feel me like, why
do he bullied him when he pushed him, Like damn
you know when he pushed him down. I'm like, damn,
you get bullied in there? You are you are running
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back crazy to watch he the punch where he was
he spaced out for a second and then caught went
on the left side of his jaw and then turned
it looked like directly at the camera to be like like,
why is this person hitting me? Help me? He cannot
believe he was getting punched in the boxing match. He
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was just dumbfounded. This is what they'd be doing it here.
But listen, that was that. It was shocking to see
because we've seen a lot of We seen a couple
of hoopers get their ass whoofed you know I mean?
And when they went to boxing. But yeah, that's ship.
I'm a I'm a convert too. How impressive anyone who
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does any form of combat sport is because Frank Gore
to me, was the toughest player I've ever seen in
the toughest sport that we have in this country. He
carried the ball three thousands, seven hundred and thirty five
times in the NFL. He was an NFL running back
at thirty six years old. He gained sixteen thousand yards
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in the NFL, and he literally looked to the camera
and scream, get me out of here with Darren Williams
point guard with a blonde fro. People in there were Oakley,
that nigga was in there with Darren will Williams. You
feel me like d E R O N you know
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what I'm saying, Like dog like Ah, that was wild.
But I mean Darren also Darren like, dude, if he's
if he's been training like this, you know, like he's
probably more comfortable with it, you know what I'm saying.
But yeah, who would you most like to see knock out?
Jake Paul? Who would be the most emotionally satisfying person
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to see knocked that man out at this point in time?
Because I am I'm sick of it, sick of this
must be stopped. That's that's who would I most want
to see knock him out? As a really good question,
mm hmmm, John, I want to see John knocking out.
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It will clean me up a lot of y'all over
here today because you see what he when he when
he the way he hit homeboy, he looked he felt
like the nutcracker that Nigga locked up, slew foot, fell
face first. Motherfucking dude wipes on his ass. Bro, it
was all bad. I don't know, bro, I'm a podcast.
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That's where I was supposed to be, you know what
I mean. Hell, No salute to dude wipes for the
best placed corporate at all time with his booty tooted
it up in the air. They was taking full advantage
of the moment too, you see they twitter. It was
all It was all him on his face and ship
jokes like dog man name Nate Robinson getting some redeption
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and knocking his ass out. That would be like some
black rocket ship. Because this mother is right about now,
you know what I'm saying. So that would be cool,
good to see, but it ain't happening. They ain't happening, Bro.
It's he gonna You're gonna kill little town to sweating
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and shipped from my No bro, no dog like I
don't know who it is. I don't know if a
real one like the one that's gonna knock h out,
We'll really get in there with him, you know what
I'm saying. Because it's just a waste of day time.
But he fought a real box. He get his ass whoop.
You know what I'm saying. But if someone's got to
do it, bro, man, he said he setting it up.
He knew what time it was with all boys. Oh boy,
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got Jake. Paul's really got Jake. Paul's ain't tattooed on
him to get a rematch and get his ass wholop,
not fall on the ground face for a slew footge
with his ass in the air saying dude, wipes you.
I got a man and tattooing you for that, like bro,
that that I feel Bro, I feel bad for Wooley
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like ship. And he was real respectful after this time.
He was like, you know what I mean, Oh you
want to hear you know, you know in the post
fight you know what I'm saying interview, She's just it's
it's it's not funny anymore. Bro. I didn't even laugh.
I was just like, Damn, I'm sad this white man.
It's been like two there's some racism and they're somewhere
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I don't know where it's saying, but it's feeling like
Willie from St. Louis too, right, Yeah, from St. Louis
Man and he one of the ones. This nigger was
like a UFC champ for like four or five years
or something. He was knocking motherfucker's out, Bro, fighting dogs.
We need a boxer knocked out by YouTubers. We need
we need a boxer in the octagon. Bro. We know,
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we know he's forty. He's forty, and you know what
I'm saying, he's taken. You know what I mean. You
could probably flick him on his chain and that motherfucker
get knocked out. You know what I mean at this point?
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Next step Jenkins and Jones. Listeners, We have a special
guest on today's episode, one of my favorite rappers in
the motherfucking game. Right now, Mr Neil Rigors. Mr. You
(30:59):
all ready know where I had her at. Mr Yeah bitch,
Chris crack Man, Welcome to the show. We appreciate you
fucking with us, bro, Man, I appreciate y'all. Man. How
y'all doing, Man, We're good. God, we're good. Bro. How's
everything with you? Man? Everything good? Man. Um, I'm just
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working on some ship man, as always, I'm never not
working on that. But I got some new ship coming
with fools go. They just hit me up like, let's
let's go on and get it going. Man. Okay, so
what you got, what you got cooking with them? If
you can say, you can speak on it. I can't
really say too much. But they just hit me up
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like like, uh, like yo, let's let's let's get something
going like like solid, you know, because I'd be sending
them ship. They'd be asking me to, you know, funk
with some what do I got some new ship or whatever?
But but they're like, let's put the let's put the
gas on this ship though, for sure. Sure. So for
the people who are just being introduced to you, you know,
just listening to the first time and go ahead and
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tell the who who the fun Chris crack is, um
Man just uh a Neil Ricker man or I'm a
cool nigger man. I smoke a little bit of weed.
But I got my ship together. You speeling me nice balance.
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You're my favorite experience in music right now. Like I'm
playing your ship all the time. I'm changing diapers talking
about they just crackheads. You know what I'm saying. Don't
they harmed because they just crackheads? You know what I'm saying.
But like dog, like, where do you where do you
get like the names for your ship? Because like my
(32:46):
lady be listening to and she like, who is this?
I'm like, it's crip, you know this is this is
Chris Crack. You know the song is fat with the
good lotion like I gotta She looked at me like,
what the fun You know what I'm saying, Brady booty
hair like my nigger. You know what I'm saying. But
where you be getting this ship? It's so creative and funny,
you know what I mean? Um, Well, when when I
when I'm done with the song and I'm and I'm
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putting the songs together, and I'm like, fully, you know,
really kind of done with the process because I can't
really name a song beforehand because it's not done, you
know what I'm saying. So a producer sent you a
beat called like Kitty met you know what I'm saying.
You know, so I can't I can't name a song
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off that I ain't even wrote the full ship, so
I wait till I'm done with it, and and like
the first thing, I just make sure it's the very
first thing that comes to my mind. That's the name
of that song. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, your mind be
going some wild places yea, yeah yeah. So you know, um,
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John just said, you know you're you're like one of
his favorite listening experiences. And I totally co signed that
ship because when I'm like introducing motherfucker's to you and
I'm a Chris Crap motherfucking evangelists bro, Like I tell
everybody you know, they gotta pep your ship. And when
when I yeah, you already know, and you know when
I holler at him and I'm like, yo, you gotta
listen to this, dude. The first thing I lead with
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is fun, right, I say this motherfucker's music is fun
because you know everybody knows the motherfucker Yeah, because you know,
everybody knows motherfucker's can rap and make good music. But
it's not a lot of motherfucker's making fun music. And
you know what I'm saying. And we yeah, And we
were discussing this ship last week. I was like, Bro,
you can fucking rap, you got a crazy ear for melody.
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Your ship be artsy as fucking you know, jam And
and it's like usually artists who are as talented as
you take themselves very seriously, you know what I'm saying.
Like it's a stern fucking listening experience listening to two
motherfucker's who can rap like you and as a who
are as artistic as you. So you know, you're someone
who who brings you your personality and your humor into it,
and we don't see that a lot. Why do you
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think that it's so rare for rappers to show us
that side? Because rappers are really funny, like motherfucker's like Drake, Yeah,
a comedian, you know what they pay the kids? Yeah, yeah,
you know, but he's a motherfucking cool guy, ladies, ladies
man in this rap right, Like, he doesn't really show
that side. So, so what makes you you think that,
you know, why do you show so much of yourself
to us? And why do you think that a lot
of rappers don't On the other end, because niggas are
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too serious, Like niggas are just just too serious, Like
like even if you are gang banging, every day is
bullets flying over your head, it's you know, cracking the kitchen.
Your mom's ain't there. It's like it's like fam you
can still you know, make the best out of the
situation if you're in jail. You know, niggas be having
a ball in jail. You'd be seeing them on, seeing
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them on, you know, going viral and ship like doing
TikTok dances and ship. Niggers be letting, niggas be letting
like that whole like gang banging on bacon thing. They
let that just go too far, like just too serious.
Just chill out, man, you know what I'm saying, Like
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you said, like we already know, we can wrap, we
already know, like let's get something else, Let's do something else.
Let's you know, yeh talk Chris. I'm from Long Beach
and a lot of people here have made the comment
that gang bangers are funnier than gangster rappers for that
exact reason, right, Like dudes who are actually if your
if your life is actually serious like that, yeah, probably
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you are much more likely to be like you said,
a funny person than if you're someone who you're like,
I'm sitting down to record. I have to show everyone
that I'm very fucking somebody believe you anyway when you
when you're too tough like you, you always got the
guys that are not only tougher than you, but they
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don't believe the motherfucking thing you say. You know what
I'm saying. And and and you you could have just
went and robbed and look a store right now before
you hit the booth, and you like this the gun
I used. And you got that nigger that's sitting at
the crib that just is just crame in for somebody
to say something. He don't believe you say, you know
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what I'm saying. So it's and and he best believed
he waged bigger than you. He got more guns than you.
He got you know, it's always a nigger tougher bro.
It's not that ship that sho ain't working. A lot
of niggas be like, I'm different from these niggas, but
they don't be different, you know what I'm saying. You
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actually have your own sound, though, Like how would you
describe your ship? You know what I mean, if you
if you you know you wanted me to tell somebody
about your music, how should I describe your ship? Um?
I would say like, like, uh, it's like it's like
a love or hate kind of thing. Man, Like it's
kind of like you're gonna love him or you're gonna
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hate him. That's what That's what I used to tell
people when I used to like be passing cd s
album should I'd be like, man, you're gonna love this ship.
You're gonna hate this ship, but but but that's believe
best believe if you love it, you're gonna funk with
me forever. You know what I'm saying. And I got niggas.
I got niggas to this day. Be like, bro, I
remember you back when you was started up. See them
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the niggas that love you know what I'm saying. Sure
for sure, Bro, you like my my You got like
the most played ship in my Apple Music ship Sex
Streams about Pothonic Friends, which is probably like my favorite
song from you, that ship so Hard. That's like the
song that that that I recommend the motherfucker's when I'm
first putting put them on, putting them on to you.
You know what I'm saying. And then like Cramer on
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Murphy Brown is like the other one because that's you
just you know, some soul sample ship just rapping, you
know what I'm saying. So it's like both sides of you.
The sex stream ship is the melodic ship. Cramer on
Murphy Brown is the rapping ship. So that brings me
to my next question. Like, you know, I think I
remember reading somewhere where it said that you grew up
being more in love with R and B than rap
as a kid. Yeah, yeah, and and and and I
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hear that because so many, so much of your ship
that you sample. It's not it's not like who who
doesn't ship. Cut cut your producer for the most part. Yeah,
I mean i'd be producing. Me and Cutter produced together.
He produces, I produced. We you know, we're all doing it.
But yeah, he's my main engineer, producer. Yes, that's my
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brother for sure. For show. And like I was saying,
it's like the samples are ship that if you were
a fucking kid in the nineties or the two thousands,
you grew up on you know what I'm saying, Like,
that's the ship you choose. Like a lot of mother
fucker's digging creates the find obscure ship. You are hitting
us with like nostalgia ship, you know what I'm saying,
And that's something and that's something that I love about
your ship. So so how do you think that you
loving R and B as much as you do? How
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do you think that that plays until you being the
the artist that you are? Um, Because my ship is,
like you said, more melodic I've seen on ship. I'm
more uh daring, I guess like I'm more willing to
you know, take a chance. He may just be too hard,
too hard, and then they wonder why they wonder why
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it's all niggas at the show. Maybe all one fucker's
got to get some girls around. Don't know a bit,
just want to be around. You are none of none
of them are none of them hunted other niggas you
with like you know what I'm saying, like, nah, man,
you got to have a little player to you. You
know what I'm saying. You got the R and B
showed me how to you know what I'm saying, be
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wavy showed me how to talk to women, show me
how to how to study women. You know what I'm
saying to what to look for, what not to you
know what I mean? All that R and B just
put that player to me that the rap ship was
already all around everywhere, all around me. So the R
and B just you know, added a little players ship.
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Did I read in an interview that you were more
like interested in comedy than in music when when you
were young? Can talk about that? You talking about your
sense of fund Yeah? Yeah, my favorite comedian all time
is Martin Lawrence, like all time, you know what I'm saying,
Cat Williams, you know, all of all the great niggers,
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you know what I'm saying with the with the I
like the weird comedians. And I used to stay up
late watching you know, comedy ship getting in trouble because
I'm supposed to be going to school and all that.
You know what, man, I'm I'm, I'm I'm. I wanted
to be a comedian like a momfucker. Like yeah, And
then it's interesting that you that like that. First of all,
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that's an interesting path. But I think you were kind
of describing with titling your songs like that's almost like
an improv comic, right, You're like, the first thought, fucking go,
don't sit there and workshout the ship. It's the first,
right but I but I know that worked on me
because and Tyler is right. He recommends you a lot
and he does not recommend a lot of ship. So
when he puts something in the group chat, we definitely
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always listen to it. But he recommended He was like,
you have to listen to us a song called Hose
and Trader Joe that is on an album called White
People Love Algorithms. And I was like, I almost don't
want to listen to this song because it can't be
better than I'm hoping that it was based off those titles.
The titles be the truth though, because the homes being
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Trader Joe's niggas be fapping with the good lotion, you
know what I mean? Like, I'm like, this is facts.
I believe everything he says, you know what I mean.
I gotta give got to give credit to my homie
for that fapping with the good lotion, um ugly for modeling.
I let him hear that song, and the only response
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this man gave me was fat with the good lotion.
And I was like, that's it. Isn't that a flowing
try joint to I like It's funny they say you
grew on on R and BE because I'll be telling people,
I'm like, it's he wrapped like a nigga that grew
up listening to R and B, which is which you
can you can hear that. But like I want to
tell you when I became a fan. I became a
(42:50):
fan when he was talking like I call it, like, yeo,
we gotta get this nick on the pot. He was
talking about the chick with the missing side to shout
out the toy and do all the dope crisis. Lord, Hey,
them be the ones, nig don't. It's the trick I
learned from my old g man. You gotta make the
(43:10):
ditch laugh real hard. But she do one of them
and you can see the side it go. She goes,
what is it about the chip? What's it about that?
So that's what it is about the ones with the
side too? Yeah, yeah, yeah, they just they just you know,
if you ain't got the side teeth, bro, I just
(43:31):
feel like you're a little more Darren, you know what
I'm saying, a little more adventurous. You just said the
two you feel like I'm here. I'm not a long
time you know, No judging, but it's just like, I
just feel like you you do give a little less fun,
which is cool. That's cool. I'm I'm with it, you
(43:53):
know what I'm saying. Yeah, but I knew at that moment,
I'm like, this a real one, This a Neil Rigor
of d Yeah. So so you know a question that
I always get, you know, when I'm ever recommending you,
is where do they start? Because you know, they go
to your Apple Music page or whatever and they see
you got like twent you know what I'm saying, Like
(44:15):
you crank the money albums in the last four years
and all of them. Ship is hard. So do you
have a place you would recommend you know, a new
listener to start at orger um No, because you know
what I put I put my music in different places
on purpose so that when when a person is like, yeah,
I listened to your whole catalog, I'm like, what did
(44:36):
you listen to? What's the name? And you're like nah,
and then you go down that rap but hoole, it's all.
It's all. It's a whole bunch of other albums on
this one, you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, I
like that. I like to have Easter eggs around the internet,
you know what I mean? Mhm. I tweeted yesterday like
thank god body found you know, alchemists. You know what
(44:56):
I'm saying, Like, I feel like that connection is beautiful. Yeah,
what producer? You know what I'm saying, would you put
you know, would you team up with a link up
with if you could choose any producer that would kind
of like, you know, you could build off with with
the type of sound you're looking forward. I'm gonna say
the best answer mad Live mm hmm. Yeah, I've heard
(45:19):
about that guy. And and and next up would be
Knowledge for Shore. Oh yeah, Knowledge, Knowledge going Knowledge crazy
his beat tapes Alane just dummy. And the next one
would be would be Javachi. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
he got some ship to be a crazy link up there,
and his producer is crazy too. He had some ship
(45:40):
with Freddy right yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Now I funk
with Jai Man I was. You know, I tell you
a story about my man off the pod Man. You know,
I don't want to put him on blast, not for
he's a real niggag for real, for real. Yeah yeah show.
(46:00):
So you know, like we said, you know you you're
someone who cranks out like four or five albums a year.
You know you said you got the Foods Go ship
coming next that you can't really speak on. You haven't
even coming next that you can speak on that we
can Chris Crack fans and new lessons can look forwards. You. Um,
I was, I was really on some real ship. I
was about to drop an album, uh in January. I
was gonna drop that bitch like that at the latest,
(46:22):
like January eleven. But uh, fool's gonna just hit me
up like a couple of days ago, and they was like, Yo,
let us hear some ship. So I'm I'm gonna I'm
gonna do you know that justice, and I'm gonna let
them pick, you know, from what they want to pick from.
You know what I'm saying, Because you want to make
everything you do the best. You know what I'm saying. Well,
(46:42):
I know so, so I'm I'm gonna hold my ship
real quick. Uh you know what I'm saying, because because
when I when I um, when they've done picking the songs,
it's probably gonna be to three months down the line,
I'm gonna have fifty most homes on deck so you
on saying I have I have three more albums on deck,
(47:03):
so I'm just really, you know, I'm just really trying
to trying to, you know, make that the best thing
right now. And then and then I you know, I
had like two more albums ready to go, so I
want to. I read in another interview you were talking
about one of the reasons your songs are so short
is you're kind of trying to hack the streaming platforms
(47:23):
a little bit because of how fucked up the business
model is. I was curious for your opinion on that, because,
on the one hand, someone who is more creative and
kind of off the wall like you, it's it's maybe
easier to find your audience when you're going through the
internet than if it was and you had to try
and convince the one guy a Power one oh six
(47:44):
to play this ship or whatever. But on the other hand,
if you were that one guy in ninety two, they
just handed you a million fucking dollars, whereas now it's
these big corporations that honestly have nothing to do with music,
like Apple doesn't give a funk about music, right, but
they're deciding, oh, you get one tenth of ascent per
listener or whatever, Like, what what is the what is
it like trying to kind of break through in this
(48:06):
era of um what the industry looks like? Well, I
think there's a lot more Uh, it's a lot more accessible.
For show. Back in the day, you had to know
somebody that knew somebody that knew somebody. And I was
just to even get in the in the in the
first door. We got to know somebody to know some
you know what I'm saying, Yeah that I like it
(48:31):
right now because you can I can just make a
song in my bedroom in my draws and upload that
bits in my draws you feel me and and it
could be a hit. How is it being a rapper
in Chicago? I feel like Chicago is one of the
one of the most if not the most slept on
city of the nation. Like creatively, there's so much fucking
talent in Chicago. Like if fucking Saba was in New York,
(48:54):
l he be a platinum artist right now. Just over
look at Chicago, you're feel I'm saying, yeah, I think
it's like influenced like the even the largest cities, you
know what I mean. How's your experience been as as
as a rapper from you know, from Chicago. Um, it's
different from me on two levels. One because I'm not
from where other all the other rappers are from. And two, um,
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just because I'm so different from all other rappers. It's
kind of it kind of pushed me in my own category,
not trying to be cocky or not, because that's not
really necessarily a good thing, but it kind of pushed
me in my own, you know, by myself. Chicago's are
real on your own, by yourself type place anyway, So
it's like it's just, you know, I'm just a nigger
(49:39):
from Chicago. Who's who's rapping you know a little bit
better than the rest of you know. I thought you
might be from Detroit at first, because the first thing
I heard was like Danny Brown. Yeah, but you know
what I'm saying, like it's similar to you, like, go ahead,
(49:59):
go ahead. Danny Brown. Um was a real big influence
on my on my career, man, like like a real
like he actually changed my life. I went to a
Danny Brown show and probably like twenty twelve, it was
twelve one of them, and yeah, that should change my life.
G I was like, well, I don't gotta be. I
(50:19):
don't gotta be tough. I don't gotta be a thug.
I don't gotta what. I could do this and I
can do that. I can rap about drugs, I can
rap about all of the wild funny ship that I
that I would be thinking about, but I can't say
because I got to too busy being tough and ship.
I was like, what that was? That was? That was
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the beginning of Chris Crack right there, because I remember
here for the first time, and I was like, I
was like, I don't really think I liked this, you
know what I'm saying, But it was something about it
that made it stay on my mind. I just kept
hearing it in the in the back of my mind.
I kept hearing that blood after blood, and I kept
hearing that what the funk? I got to lave fault
(51:04):
and I was just like, why is this? You know?
And I went back and listened on some acid. Yeah.
I literally like became somebody else that night, like real talk,
real ship, like real ship. I don't I don't, I
(51:25):
got I always show my love to Danny Brown. I
got a Danny Brown tattoo on my legs. First first
time I heard Danny Brown I think was on album
of the Year Black milk Um and I played I
wanted to find All Danny Brown Ship. I played him
like we can have straight and now. I had a
similar experience when I heard you, you know what I'm saying,
(51:46):
where I was like, I don't want to listen to
nothing else, you know what I'm saying, So like that's
so that's the the similarity there where it's like, you know,
very very individual, like you can't. I haven't had this
listening experience before. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, hell yeah. Triple
Lex was a life changing song and album, you know
what I mean. I appreciate that, bro. Well ship man,
we appreciate the funk. Are you hopping on with us?
(52:08):
You know, like like as you see, we are all
big fucking fans. We're pulling for you. You know what
I'm saying. We want you to blow You want everyone
and go stream your ship. Run that ship up, Chris
motherfucking crack a. Neil Riggor coming through to the Jacob.
We appreciate you do for real. Yeah, man, I appreciate y'all. Man,
I appreciate y'all having me on. Man. It's hello love man,
(52:29):
y'all be looking out man, put you people on. Man, Man,
I appreciate you. I appreciate you. Uh that the research
y'all did too though, because you know people be having
you on. They just be asking you, so, man, where
are you from sow this research? What do your job? Bro? Bro? Bro?
(52:50):
When when the Deell got up and walked out the interview,
when that reporter said that he ain't hurt the new album,
was like that, we need more of that exactly now.
I I wouldn't do that because I'm not on her level.
Like the self awareness. How are you not prepared for
a right right? You claiming you're and a del fan
(53:11):
and and you haven't heard her album. She's like the
biggest artist in the world. It's like, yeah, yeah, I'm
walking out. Yeah, you can't really say I couldn't find
the newer I didn't know it was out. No bro
this week, bro, like it's commercials. This man burger king
(53:37):
her face, biggest apple. You know you see that ship
she cuts you on that old motherfucker's past that ship,
which is even more disrespectful before interview got down. Yeah, yeah,
he should have just lied. I mean, I mean I
would have just kept it. Really just would have went
and listened to it right right after. You know what
(53:58):
I'm saying. Yeah, for sure, I noticed that the new
album is really it really develops a lot of your
themes that you've been working on throughout your career. Got
him ready, I gotta have him in the clip you
feel all the time? All right? Our thanks to Chris Cracks,
Christopher Crack, Christopher, I don't have a good I don't
(54:22):
have a good I don't have a good option for
saying Chris Crack but without sounding like a thirty seven
year old white man, I don't have a lane here.
So Chris Crack, Chris Crack, Tyler, thanks for having him
on the Pope man. I. I know we've been recommending
him to a lot of people, and it sounds like
a lot of people have been taking taking our advice
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because I see quite a bit of that in the
Jenkinson Jones mentions naked you feel me you know I mean,
and once again shout out to the six with the
Mr Side too. Like I said, Toy, you know what
I mean. Our time was enjoyed, Toy from the South Side.
You think, uh, do we have anything else that we're
(55:08):
talking about? Uh? We um we looked at uh. Someone
sent me a link to a podcast charting website that
I have no idea if it's legit or not, but
shout out to everyone who's listening to the podcast. The
numbers are crazy. We're the we're one of the top
ten sports podcast in Greece. Shout to, shoutouts, shout outs
(55:30):
to Greece. Actually was a lie. I wouldn't be surprised
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on the Volume podcast Network. Is Monday, December and the
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(02:46):
my good friends Dragonfly Jones, Zak A Tyler, everybody a
good le, Jethro Jenkins, a K. John was Aunt Bubbs,
I'm Guardy b Ak, Mike and Uh. I said it
up top, but it does kind of feel like every
person that you've heard of has COVID at the current
moment um. So that's what we that's where we're gonna start. Uh.
(03:07):
Looking at last year's All Star team, I mean it's
like more than half of the dudes who are All
Stars have COVID are in COVID protocols currently. Yes, I
mean it's that crazy. Yeah, ship is wild. Now. We
saw them postpone, what five or six games today. Like,
I do think that a shutdown for a few weeks
is coming, but I think that the NBA is limping
to that fucking Christmas slate. They're gonna get there. They
(03:29):
got to give those advertisers that bag. However the funk
they gotta get it, And I do think a shutdown
probably happens after that. But we're getting those Christmas games
the same way. They wouldn't let us miss them last year,
and they wanted to start it around that time. The
same thing this year that, you know what I mean,
Like that's just there's just too much money there. But
like I personally know like six people that called it
last week, you know what I'm saying, That ship was
(03:51):
putting hands and feet on Zac, you know what I mean.
Like like I was like, I want to clown you
because I'm gonna say it here, and they caught it
at a Santa Bar crawl and I'm like, I really
want to fire your ass up because that's very on
brand for Zach. But I'm gonna wait to that motherfucker
stop jumping your ass, you know what I mean? But yeah,
like dog, but when when it comes to the NBA, dog,
(04:13):
Like I mean, dude, we're watching G League games. We're
watching G League games, dog, you know what I mean?
Like you feel me like this, We're gonna watch with Christmas. Dude.
The Bulls are missing nine players. Nine players. One dude
said he's showering with with the mask on, and the
next day he called Kobe quickly you know what I mean.
(04:33):
Next David protocols were quickly you know what I mean?
Like this is this is serious, bro. I think maybe
the entire nation may be heading towards that way too.
It's just moving too fast. Okay, let's talk about let's
do something dangerous and talk about what we think should happen.
Because I don't know, Tyler, I think I disagree with
(04:55):
you because I don't think what I don't think businesses
or people have any have any Shut the funk up,
it's not true. I disagreed with Tyler's predictions many times.
That's not true. Don't say that. Okay, go ahead, how
(05:17):
dare you. I don't think that big businesses or the
average American family has and I'm not talking about people
on Twitter. I'm talking about the average people in the country.
I don't think there's any tolerance left for shutdowns or
lockdowns of almost any kind, like I think it personally,
(05:37):
I think it's more likely, and the NBA floated this
as a little trial balloon last week. I think it's
more likely that they say, if you have the ship,
but you're vaccinated and boosted and you don't have any symptoms,
you could play. I think that I think that's more
likely than that they actually pull the switch and shut
everything down for two weeks. And I think the NFL
(05:59):
is already kind of moving in that direction a little bit.
I think the fact that they're postponing games is that
because we have to remember when when they did the
um you know, the shutdown in fucking and then when
they when they did that whole fucking blitz of one season.
The reason they let that ship fly in we have
to have this ship wrapped up for the Olympics, right
(06:20):
Like that was why they couldn't postpone shit or anything there.
But they've shown that they are willing to, you know, push,
you know, because these games that they're postponing they getting
tacked onto the end of the schedule. The regular season
is going to be extended here, right. There's nothing that
that we're working against here. And in the regular season,
the finals are probably gonna end like the fucking middle
of July, the way she is looking right about now. Right. So,
I think that the fact that they've shown that they're
willing to postponemies, that they probably would be willing to say,
(06:43):
let's shut this ship down for two or three weeks,
get this fucking spread, fucking contained, and then we don't
have to do this ship anymore. The postponent that is
the wildest part of that statement was the fact that
the Olympics actually happened, because I forgot that really happened
last year. I forgot that should happen. Um, you know, yeah,
(07:05):
and I don't know. I mean, we're we will, we
will find out. It does seem like from what And
I'm obsessive about this year because we have two kids
in school who are now fully vaccinated. You know, my
wife and I are both boosted, but we were stretched
out about it this school year, sending them back before
they were able to get the vaccine. Um. And what
everyone says seems to be saying is they're predicting the
(07:26):
spike to be mid January, so it will be a
much faster up and down than the previous waves just
because of it's less people are going to hospital, or
I should say a smaller percentage of people who are
infected are going to go to the hospital. The fact
that so many people are either vaccinated or have had
COVID does mean that there is more natural immunity against
(07:47):
severe responses. But I think that's why I can see
the NBA in the NFL being like, yeah, no one
wants to watch a G League game. I can. It
seems more likely to me that they would ask Kevin
Durant if he'd rather play then, you know then that
they would say let's not have any basketball for two
weeks um in January. But I don't know. I mean,
(08:10):
I wouldn't be that surprised by a shutdown because I
can see the players union being very public about going.
You told us this virus was so serious that we
had to do X X X and X too play.
You can't fucking tell us now that this new variant
is less fatal, so therefore we should be out on
the court with the ship. The NBA is a business,
and it's really hard to sell a product without the
(08:32):
motherfucker this averaging thirty nine points of fucking game. Okay,
you know what I mean, Like he is I mean that,
I mean I could see that, but I mean, what
the the thing about this one at least is that, um,
it's more like other viruses and the fact that it is,
you know, more contagious also it's it's it's more mild,
(08:53):
you know what I mean. So I think with Delta,
you know, it was weird that it was stronger and
more contagious. It was, you know, but I don't know
what's gonna happen gee this ship. I just I think
I think I think that we all kind of realized.
You said, like the nation doesn't want to lockdown. You
think the lation the nation is against that type of ship.
I think we're all just kind of realizing this is
(09:13):
our reality, you know what I mean, Like it's not
going anywhere. You know what I'm saying, Get the vacky
and then just you know, sit some prayers up. You
feel me Like, I don't know where you guys are.
I'll say I'll say this about my family on the podcast.
Where we are is we we got the vaccines. We
got my wife and I have the booster. Our kids
are fully vaccinated. If it's some motherfucker's out there who
(09:34):
are not taking steps to protect themselves this deep into
the pandemic, My patients and sympathy and empathy meters are
low as fuck for those people. And you know, I'm
not talking about the families of those people, absolutely, but
as far as all that, Like, my sympathy is with
our friends who are nurses that are about to have
(09:55):
to go through another way where they're still telling us
almost everyone that's in the ICU with them is unvac
stated and the vaccine has been out for almost a year.
So for me, I'm like my mom asked me, She's like,
can I still come down with the stuff? I said, fu, Yeah,
We're not missing another Christmas with Grandma. My kids are
gonna miss anymore school. We went to Disneyland with the
mass on and everything last week, like we sat in
(10:16):
the house for a year and a half. I mean,
I'm strict over here. Bro. I'm like, you're strict as
fun as you should be because you're thinking about protecting
your family and your and your daughter obviously is too
young to be protect you get some vacky I think
she'll get some vaccinations, like in the next two weeks.
But yeah, I'm like, yo, we need we need a
negative COVID test. You know what I mean, are you
(10:37):
vaccinated if not? Double mask and this motherfucker like making
you know them holes in each mask half is big,
you feel what I'm saying. Like, I'm pretty strict around here.
I mean We've been invited to places. I was like, yeah,
we'll go, and then when when the all macrons already
hit and I'm like, yeah, it's just not happening. You know,
it's just not safe. So I don't know, man, I mean,
I'm really fine with the lockdown ge like I feel
(10:59):
bad for that. She's a more social person. I mean,
I have my little bouts, but for the most part,
I don't like niggas anyway. I don't like ship, I
don't go outside and Earl swear shirt Feel Me one
of my favorite, my favorite Earl albums and one of
my favorite albums. So yes, that's me. Yeah, I mean,
that's that's pretty much where I'm at. Like, you know,
(11:21):
lockdown suck, but I'm not stressed about it, like like
I'm i'd be. I'm worried about you know, cats like
Jackson who are like you know what I'm saying, going
through this ship for the second time in like three years. Like,
don't I don't know what early twenties me. I don't
know how I would have dealt with this ship, but
oh washtup. Me is fine with it, you know what
I mean? I know how to deal with it. I'd
(11:42):
have been stupid, I'd be vacky, but I've been dumb.
I've been going. I would have called it would have
been I would have called it a Santa par You
know what I'm saying, Like you feel me, you know
what I mean. I think that's where my like this
deep into the pandemic. That's where my anger comes from.
What I was angry about early on was I didn't
feel like we were doing enough for for kids and
(12:03):
for for uh. I don't know what the politically correct
terms underserved communities or whatever, but basically, we threw black
kids and Mexican kids and some own kids in Long
Beach under the bus because we shut down schools and
every public service that they used. It was their tether
to nutrition, etcetera. So I didn't feel like we built
in enough things to take care of those people. What
I'm angry about now is just my own kids, just
(12:24):
like these dudes missed school for a year, like they
didn't you know, they didn't get to play sports for
a year. Like you're talking about an eight and a
six year old. That's their whole memory. My kids don't
remember life before masks or COVID or whatever. And I
that's the world. I mean, that's the world they're going
to grow up in. But I'm not prepared for let's
just close schools back now for a month or you
(12:46):
know whatever else. To me at this point, it's like
this vaccine has been out, and if you are, you're
playing Russian Roulette with the virus. That's your business. I
don't know, buddy, Buddy, let's talk about those Christmas games?
Are they gonna be? I mean, are we gonna watch them?
(13:08):
I don't think Nets without Katie. I do completely agree
with Tyler. They will. They will sign the three of
us up to play for the Nets before they cancel
a single Christmas game show the show they did that
ship when ADULTA was whooping Nigga's ass. Stay with like, bro,
but it's Christmas, you know what I mean? The market
of dollars too crazy. Shit, I love all the sports
(13:32):
ahead I'm gonna say that the Christmas games are gonna
go down. Regarless, They're gonna go down every year because
that's like their second biggest fucking chip when they put
on that they put on the table for you know,
TV deals. It's playoffs, and then it's the Christmas game,
you know what I mean? So those Christmas games happen
in regardless. Bro, how much money do they make off
the Christmas games? Like competitive playoffs? I know, like the
playoffs as a whole probably make more money, obvious because
(13:53):
it's more games. When you when you say they, you
mean the podcast networks for the NBA is n B
A the NBA? Like, I wonder how much how much
of the Tyler is right that I do think it's
the second thing behind the playoffs. So to an extent,
the broadcast deal itself is probably pretty heavily tied to
the existence of those games, which what's the what's the
what's their deal with ESPN, ABC and n T N
(14:14):
T hold on A Sorry TV, we lost ESPN YouTube
TV just lost the listeners to watch it. Some watch.
The NBA's current TV broadcasting contract expires in two thousand
twenty four, but they're already negotiating blah. Blah blah. The
(14:34):
current broadcasting contracts started in two thousand sixteen, and it's
reportedly worth a total of twenty four billion dollars. The
kids them, that's what they say. Story from September NBA
aiming for new TV deal worth seventy five billion dollars
(14:55):
over good God Almighty having money. Goddamn. I was prepared
for that number to be bigger than I was prepared
for that number to be, But I was not prepared
for it to be that much bigger than prepared for
(15:20):
Jesus Christ seventy damn. Wow, that's that's stuff to wrap
my head around. Let's talk about something funny. Urban Meyer
got fired. Finally you did it, and it paid off
(15:40):
for you. I think nothing in the world could be
funnier to me, truly than the ultimate competitor meathead college football,
Mr Competition, Mr. We gotta go harder than the other
guy get taken down for kicking his kicker in the leg.
(16:03):
I honestly think it's the funniest thing that's ever happened.
Said y'all were pro Urban after that. No, No, that's
not thinking that far. I said. I said, this is
not going to turn the tide. Of public opinion against Irman.
I said, it probably helps him. I said, because football
culture is a violent culture, and no one gives a
funk about kickers, So that a lot of my fuckers, Wow,
(16:26):
Urban kick the kicker. He might be with the ship,
you know what I'm saying. That's how a lot of
motherfucker's thought about that. I'm sure a lot of motherfuckers
that kicker should have made his ass, but he didn't
because he's a kicker. That's why I know what he's
about kickers. I hate the niggodi square off and take
his feet off the ground. Nigga punches. Man, think out
(16:46):
here kicking fun that dude. I hate a kicking ass nigger. Man.
I just one thing that's funny to me is everyone
going like, well, imagine if your boss were to kick you.
I don't work at a job. That's the NFL, bro,
You know I was doing beat his ass. No, I
would have beat his ass, but I don't have. But
that's the structure. The NFL is more like the military
than it is like my job. You know what I mean.
(17:08):
These dudes are fucking crazy. If you ever been around
a NFL team, if Harber would have kicked you, he
would be like he got jumped after that, mom, So
I would have had cleats on face if if he
would have kicked me. But the funniest quote in sports
history is the kicker said, hey, man, you can't kick me,
(17:29):
and Urban said a quote, I'm the headball coach. I'll
kick you one of the funk I want. Then like,
but he said ball coach. That speaks to like, you
know a particular you know time period. I'm the headball coach.
You know what I mean? That is some sec ship
to say he need to take his ass back to college. Bro,
No one talks like that in the promsch Danny Spurry
(17:52):
aspect South Carolina or some ship. Bro. That nigger really
let it grow. Man, kick he should be out of him. Bro.
That's and then went to the newspaper and told on himself.
He made himself look sickly not urban weird as dude.
Everybody in that situation. I hate that. I hate to
(18:13):
kicking ass gonna get kicked and then tell people we
got kicked. Nick, you let a kicking a windout, and
you are a kicker. If anyone could offset king, you
might have had hands, but you got feet. You could have. Really,
you don't put put a boot on that nigger could
(18:34):
have seen him like ten yards. You feel me. At
least he got kicked. He went to the paper and
told him he got kicked. He called the Tampa Bay
Times and said, you'll never believe what Urban Meyer didn't
to me, and they would home. He was another end,
holding the phone cover, laughing like a motherfucker like nigg
(18:56):
I don't know as a reporter talking to an NFL player,
I don't care if it's a kicker or putter. I
don't know as a reporter how you don't have to
mute the phone because you're laughing when he gives you
the I'll kick you whenever the funk I want question.
I just he told you what I remember? Can you
write that out for me so I make sure I'm
(19:17):
hearing you. Cor I know I've said this before, but
I remember when my little brother got flamed so bad
somebody called him SpongeBob square head in third in second grade,
I think something like that, and he told me, and
I had to, you know, because I was laughing, like
damn on the bus this morning. That's something second grade,
(19:38):
his weight class with that one. He actually heard. I
was like, you ran into that one known that nick
he said it, and I put the pone away like
my mama actually said, don't laugh, but they call it
your brother sponge. But and she started laughing when she
told me. You know, if a nigga he made my
(19:59):
mama and her youngest son, dog, that nig is a god.
He's somewhere making somebody cry right now. Dog, you know
what I mean anyway, But it's the same ship, you
know what I mean straight laughing on the other things
like bitch, please do come on well? Final final ruling,
Urban Meyer. That's the devil. That's that's a devil. Bangs
(20:24):
the cavil. That's the devil he just missed. Um, let's
talk about fake boxing a boxing. Um. Do you want
to talk about Jake Paul first or about Frank Gore first? Tyler,
Frank Gore looks like he looks like he was like
(20:47):
he was in his over and said the whole fucking
bout like like he looked like he had no idea
what the fun he was doing out there. Dryn Williams
has done like m M a training and we kind
of saw the between those two in that fight. And
then Darren beat the funk out of him and then
had some words. It was him his hisself where he said,
I'm gonna go sit my old dumbass down and leave
this to the professionals. And he said that after whooping
(21:10):
the man's ass. So that just tells you how demanding
boxing is. Bro for real. It makes me feel like
Gored never has sparred without his helmet on, you know
what I'm saying, Like I don't know with the head gear,
you know what I mean, Like because he was in there, like, whoa,
this really hurts. I would never get hit in the
head without no motherfucking head gear, and it hurts with
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head gear, you know what I mean. But then with
the faces he was making. Oh God, even when he
got when he got pushed, he looked like he was like,
do I gotta get back up? Ain't somebody's supposed to
help me? Where the rap that? Jesus Christ, Jess. I
don't know, but but but I thought Gore was gonna
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whoop him just out of this fact that he's just
he's a running back dude, you know, like he's been
beat up his entire life career. He got in that
ring and all boy was putting them things on him
and he just had nothing. You feel me like, why
do he bullied him when he pushed him, Like damn
you know when he pushed him down. I'm like, damn,
you get bullied in there? You are you are running
(22:16):
back crazy to watch he the punch where he was
he spaced out for a second and then caught went
on the left side of his jaw and then turned
it looked like directly at the camera to be like like,
why is this person hitting me? Help me? He cannot
believe he was getting punched in the boxing match. He
(22:37):
was just dumbfounded. This is what they'd be doing it here.
But listen, that was that. It was shocking to see
because we've seen a lot of We seen a couple
of hoopers get their ass whoofed you know I mean?
And when they went to boxing. But yeah, that's ship.
I'm a I'm a convert too. How impressive anyone who
(22:59):
does any form of combat sport is because Frank Gore
to me, was the toughest player I've ever seen in
the toughest sport that we have in this country. He
carried the ball three thousands, seven hundred and thirty five
times in the NFL. He was an NFL running back
at thirty six years old. He gained sixteen thousand yards
(23:23):
in the NFL, and he literally looked to the camera
and scream, get me out of here with Darren Williams
point guard with a blonde fro. People in there were Oakley,
that nigga was in there with Darren will Williams. You
feel me like d E R O N you know
(23:45):
what I'm saying, Like dog like Ah, that was wild.
But I mean Darren also Darren like, dude, if he's
if he's been training like this, you know, like he's
probably more comfortable with it, you know what I'm saying.
But yeah, who would you most like to see knock out?
Jake Paul? Who would be the most emotionally satisfying person
(24:06):
to see knocked that man out at this point in time?
Because I am I'm sick of it, sick of this
must be stopped. That's that's who would I most want
to see knock him out? As a really good question,
mm hmmm, John, I want to see John knocking out.
(24:29):
It will clean me up a lot of y'all over
here today because you see what he when he when
he the way he hit homeboy, he looked he felt
like the nutcracker that Nigga locked up, slew foot, fell
face first. Motherfucking dude wipes on his ass. Bro, it
was all bad. I don't know, bro, I'm a podcast.
(24:51):
That's where I was supposed to be, you know what
I mean. Hell, No salute to dude wipes for the
best placed corporate at all time with his booty tooted
it up in the air. They was taking full advantage
of the moment too, you see they twitter. It was
all It was all him on his face and ship
jokes like dog man name Nate Robinson getting some redeption
(25:15):
and knocking his ass out. That would be like some
black rocket ship. Because this mother is right about now,
you know what I'm saying. So that would be cool,
good to see, but it ain't happening. They ain't happening, Bro.
It's he gonna You're gonna kill little town to sweating
(25:36):
and shipped from my No bro, no dog like I
don't know who it is. I don't know if a
real one like the one that's gonna knock h out,
We'll really get in there with him, you know what
I'm saying. Because it's just a waste of day time.
But he fought a real box. He get his ass whoop.
You know what I'm saying. But if someone's got to
do it, bro, man, he said he setting it up.
He knew what time it was with all boys. Oh boy,
(25:56):
got Jake. Paul's really got Jake. Paul's ain't tattooed on
him to get a rematch and get his ass wholop,
not fall on the ground face for a slew footge
with his ass in the air saying dude, wipes you.
I got a man and tattooing you for that, like bro,
that that I feel Bro, I feel bad for Wooley
(26:18):
like ship. And he was real respectful after this time.
He was like, you know what I mean, Oh you
want to hear you know, you know in the post
fight you know what I'm saying interview, She's just it's
it's it's not funny anymore. Bro. I didn't even laugh.
I was just like, Damn, I'm sad this white man.
It's been like two there's some racism and they're somewhere
(26:38):
I don't know where it's saying, but it's feeling like
Willie from St. Louis too, right, Yeah, from St. Louis
Man and he one of the ones. This nigger was
like a UFC champ for like four or five years
or something. He was knocking motherfucker's out, Bro, fighting dogs.
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get knocked out. You know what I mean at this point?
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Next step Jenkins and Jones. Listeners, We have a special
guest on today's episode, one of my favorite rappers in
the motherfucking game. Right now, Mr Neil Rigors. Mr. You
(30:59):
all ready know where I had her at. Mr Yeah bitch,
Chris crack Man, Welcome to the show. We appreciate you
fucking with us, bro, Man, I appreciate y'all. Man. How
y'all doing, Man, We're good. God, we're good. Bro. How's
everything with you? Man? Everything good? Man. Um, I'm just
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working on some ship man, as always, I'm never not
working on that. But I got some new ship coming
with fools go. They just hit me up like, let's
let's go on and get it going. Man. Okay, so
what you got, what you got cooking with them? If
you can say, you can speak on it. I can't
really say too much. But they just hit me up
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like like, uh, like yo, let's let's let's get something
going like like solid, you know, because I'd be sending
them ship. They'd be asking me to, you know, funk
with some what do I got some new ship or whatever?
But but they're like, let's put the let's put the
gas on this ship though, for sure. Sure. So for
the people who are just being introduced to you, you know,
just listening to the first time and go ahead and
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tell the who who the fun Chris crack is, um
Man just uh a Neil Ricker man or I'm a
cool nigger man. I smoke a little bit of weed.
But I got my ship together. You speeling me nice balance.
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You're my favorite experience in music right now. Like I'm
playing your ship all the time. I'm changing diapers talking
about they just crackheads. You know what I'm saying. Don't
they harmed because they just crackheads? You know what I'm saying.
But like dog, like, where do you where do you
get like the names for your ship? Because like my
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lady be listening to and she like, who is this?
I'm like, it's crip, you know this is this is
Chris Crack. You know the song is fat with the
good lotion like I gotta She looked at me like,
what the fun You know what I'm saying, Brady booty
hair like my nigger. You know what I'm saying. But
where you be getting this ship? It's so creative and funny,
you know what I mean? Um, Well, when when I
when I'm done with the song and I'm and I'm
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putting the songs together, and I'm like, fully, you know,
really kind of done with the process because I can't
really name a song beforehand because it's not done, you
know what I'm saying. So a producer sent you a
beat called like Kitty met you know what I'm saying.
You know, so I can't I can't name a song
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off that I ain't even wrote the full ship, so
I wait till I'm done with it, and and like
the first thing, I just make sure it's the very
first thing that comes to my mind. That's the name
of that song. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, your mind be
going some wild places yea, yeah yeah. So you know, um,
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John just said, you know you're you're like one of
his favorite listening experiences. And I totally co signed that
ship because when I'm like introducing motherfucker's to you and
I'm a Chris Crap motherfucking evangelists bro, Like I tell
everybody you know, they gotta pep your ship. And when
when I yeah, you already know, and you know when
I holler at him and I'm like, yo, you gotta
listen to this, dude. The first thing I lead with
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is fun, right, I say this motherfucker's music is fun
because you know everybody knows the motherfucker Yeah, because you know,
everybody knows motherfucker's can rap and make good music. But
it's not a lot of motherfucker's making fun music. And
you know what I'm saying. And we yeah, And we
were discussing this ship last week. I was like, Bro,
you can fucking rap, you got a crazy ear for melody.
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Your ship be artsy as fucking you know, jam And
and it's like usually artists who are as talented as
you take themselves very seriously, you know what I'm saying.
Like it's a stern fucking listening experience listening to two
motherfucker's who can rap like you and as a who
are as artistic as you. So you know, you're someone
who who brings you your personality and your humor into it,
and we don't see that a lot. Why do you
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think that it's so rare for rappers to show us
that side? Because rappers are really funny, like motherfucker's like Drake, Yeah,
a comedian, you know what they pay the kids? Yeah, yeah,
you know, but he's a motherfucking cool guy, ladies, ladies
man in this rap right, Like, he doesn't really show
that side. So, so what makes you you think that,
you know, why do you show so much of yourself
to us? And why do you think that a lot
of rappers don't On the other end, because niggas are
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too serious, Like niggas are just just too serious, Like
like even if you are gang banging, every day is
bullets flying over your head, it's you know, cracking the kitchen.
Your mom's ain't there. It's like it's like fam you
can still you know, make the best out of the
situation if you're in jail. You know, niggas be having
a ball in jail. You'd be seeing them on, seeing
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them on, you know, going viral and ship like doing
TikTok dances and ship. Niggers be letting, niggas be letting
like that whole like gang banging on bacon thing. They
let that just go too far, like just too serious.
Just chill out, man, you know what I'm saying, Like
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you said, like we already know, we can wrap, we
already know, like let's get something else, Let's do something else.
Let's you know, yeh talk Chris. I'm from Long Beach
and a lot of people here have made the comment
that gang bangers are funnier than gangster rappers for that
exact reason, right, Like dudes who are actually if your
if your life is actually serious like that, yeah, probably
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you are much more likely to be like you said,
a funny person than if you're someone who you're like,
I'm sitting down to record. I have to show everyone
that I'm very fucking somebody believe you anyway when you
when you're too tough like you, you always got the
guys that are not only tougher than you, but they
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don't believe the motherfucking thing you say. You know what
I'm saying. And and and you you could have just
went and robbed and look a store right now before
you hit the booth, and you like this the gun
I used. And you got that nigger that's sitting at
the crib that just is just crame in for somebody
to say something. He don't believe you say, you know
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what I'm saying. So it's and and he best believed
he waged bigger than you. He got more guns than you.
He got you know, it's always a nigger tougher bro.
It's not that ship that sho ain't working. A lot
of niggas be like, I'm different from these niggas, but
they don't be different, you know what I'm saying. You
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actually have your own sound, though, Like how would you
describe your ship? You know what I mean, if you
if you you know you wanted me to tell somebody
about your music, how should I describe your ship? Um?
I would say like, like, uh, it's like it's like
a love or hate kind of thing. Man, Like it's
kind of like you're gonna love him or you're gonna
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hate him. That's what That's what I used to tell
people when I used to like be passing cd s
album should I'd be like, man, you're gonna love this ship.
You're gonna hate this ship, but but but that's believe
best believe if you love it, you're gonna funk with
me forever. You know what I'm saying. And I got niggas.
I got niggas to this day. Be like, bro, I
remember you back when you was started up. See them
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the niggas that love you know what I'm saying. Sure
for sure, Bro, you like my my You got like
the most played ship in my Apple Music ship Sex
Streams about Pothonic Friends, which is probably like my favorite
song from you, that ship so Hard. That's like the
song that that that I recommend the motherfucker's when I'm
first putting put them on, putting them on to you.
You know what I'm saying. And then like Cramer on
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Murphy Brown is like the other one because that's you
just you know, some soul sample ship just rapping, you
know what I'm saying. So it's like both sides of you.
The sex stream ship is the melodic ship. Cramer on
Murphy Brown is the rapping ship. So that brings me
to my next question. Like, you know, I think I
remember reading somewhere where it said that you grew up
being more in love with R and B than rap
as a kid. Yeah, yeah, and and and and I
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hear that because so many, so much of your ship
that you sample. It's not it's not like who who
doesn't ship. Cut cut your producer for the most part. Yeah,
I mean i'd be producing. Me and Cutter produced together.
He produces, I produced. We you know, we're all doing it.
But yeah, he's my main engineer, producer. Yes, that's my
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brother for sure. For show. And like I was saying,
it's like the samples are ship that if you were
a fucking kid in the nineties or the two thousands,
you grew up on you know what I'm saying, Like,
that's the ship you choose. Like a lot of mother
fucker's digging creates the find obscure ship. You are hitting
us with like nostalgia ship, you know what I'm saying,
And that's something and that's something that I love about
your ship. So so how do you think that you
loving R and B as much as you do? How
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do you think that that plays until you being the
the artist that you are? Um, Because my ship is,
like you said, more melodic I've seen on ship. I'm
more uh daring, I guess like I'm more willing to
you know, take a chance. He may just be too hard,
too hard, and then they wonder why they wonder why
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it's all niggas at the show. Maybe all one fucker's
got to get some girls around. Don't know a bit,
just want to be around. You are none of none
of them are none of them hunted other niggas you
with like you know what I'm saying, like, nah, man,
you got to have a little player to you. You
know what I'm saying. You got the R and B
showed me how to you know what I'm saying, be
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wavy showed me how to talk to women, show me
how to how to study women. You know what I'm
saying to what to look for, what not to you
know what I mean? All that R and B just
put that player to me that the rap ship was
already all around everywhere, all around me. So the R
and B just you know, added a little players ship.
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Did I read in an interview that you were more
like interested in comedy than in music when when you
were young? Can talk about that? You talking about your
sense of fund Yeah? Yeah, my favorite comedian all time
is Martin Lawrence, like all time, you know what I'm saying,
Cat Williams, you know, all of all the great niggers,
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you know what I'm saying with the with the I
like the weird comedians. And I used to stay up
late watching you know, comedy ship getting in trouble because
I'm supposed to be going to school and all that.
You know what, man, I'm I'm, I'm I'm. I wanted
to be a comedian like a momfucker. Like yeah, And
then it's interesting that you that like that. First of all,
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that's an interesting path. But I think you were kind
of describing with titling your songs like that's almost like
an improv comic, right, You're like, the first thought, fucking go,
don't sit there and workshout the ship. It's the first,
right but I but I know that worked on me
because and Tyler is right. He recommends you a lot
and he does not recommend a lot of ship. So
when he puts something in the group chat, we definitely
(41:46):
always listen to it. But he recommended He was like,
you have to listen to us a song called Hose
and Trader Joe that is on an album called White
People Love Algorithms. And I was like, I almost don't
want to listen to this song because it can't be
better than I'm hoping that it was based off those titles.
The titles be the truth though, because the homes being
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Trader Joe's niggas be fapping with the good lotion, you
know what I mean? Like, I'm like, this is facts.
I believe everything he says, you know what I mean.
I gotta give got to give credit to my homie
for that fapping with the good lotion, um ugly for modeling.
I let him hear that song, and the only response
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this man gave me was fat with the good lotion.
And I was like, that's it. Isn't that a flowing
try joint to I like It's funny they say you
grew on on R and BE because I'll be telling people,
I'm like, it's he wrapped like a nigga that grew
up listening to R and B, which is which you
can you can hear that. But like I want to
tell you when I became a fan. I became a
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fan when he was talking like I call it, like, yeo,
we gotta get this nick on the pot. He was
talking about the chick with the missing side to shout
out the toy and do all the dope crisis. Lord, Hey,
them be the ones, nig don't. It's the trick I
learned from my old g man. You gotta make the
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ditch laugh real hard. But she do one of them
and you can see the side it go. She goes,
what is it about the chip? What's it about that?
So that's what it is about the ones with the
side too? Yeah, yeah, yeah, they just they just you know,
if you ain't got the side teeth, bro, I just
(43:31):
feel like you're a little more Darren, you know what
I'm saying, a little more adventurous. You just said the
two you feel like I'm here. I'm not a long
time you know, No judging, but it's just like, I
just feel like you you do give a little less fun,
which is cool. That's cool. I'm I'm with it, you
(43:53):
know what I'm saying. Yeah, but I knew at that moment,
I'm like, this a real one, This a Neil Rigor
of d Yeah. So so you know a question that
I always get, you know, when I'm ever recommending you,
is where do they start? Because you know, they go
to your Apple Music page or whatever and they see
you got like twent you know what I'm saying, Like
(44:15):
you crank the money albums in the last four years
and all of them. Ship is hard. So do you
have a place you would recommend you know, a new
listener to start at orger um No, because you know
what I put I put my music in different places
on purpose so that when when a person is like, yeah,
I listened to your whole catalog, I'm like, what did
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you listen to? What's the name? And you're like nah,
and then you go down that rap but hoole, it's all.
It's all. It's a whole bunch of other albums on
this one, you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, I
like that. I like to have Easter eggs around the internet,
you know what I mean? Mhm. I tweeted yesterday like
thank god body found you know, alchemists. You know what
(44:56):
I'm saying, Like, I feel like that connection is beautiful. Yeah,
what producer? You know what I'm saying, would you put
you know, would you team up with a link up
with if you could choose any producer that would kind
of like, you know, you could build off with with
the type of sound you're looking forward. I'm gonna say
the best answer mad Live mm hmm. Yeah, I've heard
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about that guy. And and and next up would be
Knowledge for Shore. Oh yeah, Knowledge, Knowledge going Knowledge crazy
his beat tapes Alane just dummy. And the next one
would be would be Javachi. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
he got some ship to be a crazy link up there,
and his producer is crazy too. He had some ship
(45:40):
with Freddy right yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Now I funk
with Jai Man I was. You know, I tell you
a story about my man off the pod Man. You know,
I don't want to put him on blast, not for
he's a real niggag for real, for real. Yeah yeah show.
(46:00):
So you know, like we said, you know you you're
someone who cranks out like four or five albums a year.
You know you said you got the Foods Go ship
coming next that you can't really speak on. You haven't
even coming next that you can speak on that we
can Chris Crack fans and new lessons can look forwards. You. Um,
I was, I was really on some real ship. I
was about to drop an album, uh in January. I
was gonna drop that bitch like that at the latest,
(46:22):
like January eleven. But uh, fool's gonna just hit me
up like a couple of days ago, and they was like, Yo,
let us hear some ship. So I'm I'm gonna I'm
gonna do you know that justice, and I'm gonna let
them pick, you know, from what they want to pick from.
You know what I'm saying, Because you want to make
everything you do the best. You know what I'm saying. Well,
(46:42):
I know so, so I'm I'm gonna hold my ship
real quick. Uh you know what I'm saying, because because
when I when I um, when they've done picking the songs,
it's probably gonna be to three months down the line,
I'm gonna have fifty most homes on deck so you
on saying I have I have three more albums on deck,
(47:03):
so I'm just really, you know, I'm just really trying
to trying to, you know, make that the best thing
right now. And then and then I you know, I
had like two more albums ready to go, so I
want to. I read in another interview you were talking
about one of the reasons your songs are so short
is you're kind of trying to hack the streaming platforms
(47:23):
a little bit because of how fucked up the business
model is. I was curious for your opinion on that, because,
on the one hand, someone who is more creative and
kind of off the wall like you, it's it's maybe
easier to find your audience when you're going through the
internet than if it was and you had to try
and convince the one guy a Power one oh six
(47:44):
to play this ship or whatever. But on the other hand,
if you were that one guy in ninety two, they
just handed you a million fucking dollars, whereas now it's
these big corporations that honestly have nothing to do with music,
like Apple doesn't give a funk about music, right, but
they're deciding, oh, you get one tenth of ascent per
listener or whatever, Like, what what is the what is
it like trying to kind of break through in this
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era of um what the industry looks like? Well, I
think there's a lot more Uh, it's a lot more accessible.
For show. Back in the day, you had to know
somebody that knew somebody that knew somebody. And I was
just to even get in the in the in the
first door. We got to know somebody to know some
you know what I'm saying, Yeah that I like it
(48:31):
right now because you can I can just make a
song in my bedroom in my draws and upload that
bits in my draws you feel me and and it
could be a hit. How is it being a rapper
in Chicago? I feel like Chicago is one of the
one of the most if not the most slept on
city of the nation. Like creatively, there's so much fucking
talent in Chicago. Like if fucking Saba was in New York,
(48:54):
l he be a platinum artist right now. Just over
look at Chicago, you're feel I'm saying, yeah, I think
it's like influenced like the even the largest cities, you
know what I mean. How's your experience been as as
as a rapper from you know, from Chicago. Um, it's
different from me on two levels. One because I'm not
from where other all the other rappers are from. And two, um,
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just because I'm so different from all other rappers. It's
kind of it kind of pushed me in my own category,
not trying to be cocky or not, because that's not
really necessarily a good thing, but it kind of pushed
me in my own, you know, by myself. Chicago's are
real on your own, by yourself type place anyway, So
it's like it's just, you know, I'm just a nigger
(49:39):
from Chicago. Who's who's rapping you know a little bit
better than the rest of you know. I thought you
might be from Detroit at first, because the first thing
I heard was like Danny Brown. Yeah, but you know
what I'm saying, like it's similar to you, like, go ahead,
(49:59):
go ahead. Danny Brown. Um was a real big influence
on my on my career, man, like like a real
like he actually changed my life. I went to a
Danny Brown show and probably like twenty twelve, it was
twelve one of them, and yeah, that should change my life.
G I was like, well, I don't gotta be. I
(50:19):
don't gotta be tough. I don't gotta be a thug.
I don't gotta what. I could do this and I
can do that. I can rap about drugs, I can
rap about all of the wild funny ship that I
that I would be thinking about, but I can't say
because I got to too busy being tough and ship.
I was like, what that was? That was? That was
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the beginning of Chris Crack right there, because I remember
here for the first time, and I was like, I
was like, I don't really think I liked this, you
know what I'm saying, But it was something about it
that made it stay on my mind. I just kept
hearing it in the in the back of my mind.
I kept hearing that blood after blood, and I kept
hearing that what the funk? I got to lave fault
(51:04):
and I was just like, why is this? You know?
And I went back and listened on some acid. Yeah.
I literally like became somebody else that night, like real talk,
real ship, like real ship. I don't I don't, I
(51:25):
got I always show my love to Danny Brown. I
got a Danny Brown tattoo on my legs. First first
time I heard Danny Brown I think was on album
of the Year Black milk Um and I played I
wanted to find All Danny Brown Ship. I played him
like we can have straight and now. I had a
similar experience when I heard you, you know what I'm saying,
(51:46):
where I was like, I don't want to listen to
nothing else, you know what I'm saying, So like that's
so that's the the similarity there where it's like, you know,
very very individual, like you can't. I haven't had this
listening experience before. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, hell yeah. Triple
Lex was a life changing song and album, you know
what I mean. I appreciate that, bro. Well ship man,
we appreciate the funk. Are you hopping on with us?
(52:08):
You know, like like as you see, we are all
big fucking fans. We're pulling for you. You know what
I'm saying. We want you to blow You want everyone
and go stream your ship. Run that ship up, Chris
motherfucking crack a. Neil Riggor coming through to the Jacob.
We appreciate you do for real. Yeah, man, I appreciate y'all. Man,
I appreciate y'all having me on. Man. It's hello love man,
(52:29):
y'all be looking out man, put you people on. Man, Man,
I appreciate you. I appreciate you. Uh that the research
y'all did too though, because you know people be having
you on. They just be asking you, so, man, where
are you from sow this research? What do your job? Bro? Bro? Bro?
(52:50):
When when the Deell got up and walked out the interview,
when that reporter said that he ain't hurt the new album,
was like that, we need more of that exactly now.
I I wouldn't do that because I'm not on her level.
Like the self awareness. How are you not prepared for
a right right? You claiming you're and a del fan
(53:11):
and and you haven't heard her album. She's like the
biggest artist in the world. It's like, yeah, yeah, I'm
walking out. Yeah, you can't really say I couldn't find
the newer I didn't know it was out. No bro
this week, bro, like it's commercials. This man burger king
(53:37):
her face, biggest apple. You know you see that ship
she cuts you on that old motherfucker's past that ship,
which is even more disrespectful before interview got down. Yeah, yeah,
he should have just lied. I mean, I mean I
would have just kept it. Really just would have went
and listened to it right right after. You know what
(53:58):
I'm saying. Yeah, for sure, I noticed that the new
album is really it really develops a lot of your
themes that you've been working on throughout your career. Got
him ready, I gotta have him in the clip you
feel all the time? All right? Our thanks to Chris Cracks,
Christopher Crack, Christopher, I don't have a good I don't
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have a good I don't have a good option for
saying Chris Crack but without sounding like a thirty seven
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