Nerd Sesh — Trivia Time with Bebida Tailgate - The Volume

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume. Oh my god, how could he do that? Why?

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Charles Darwin?

Speaker 1 (00:18):
The Nerds is where it's at.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Welcome everybody back into Nerd sesshon As always, I'm Carson
Breber and alongside me is Logan Canden, and today we
are joined by a very special guest. We have Shaw
from bebita tailgate with us and we're gonna be playing
some trivia NBA and NFL. But first things, first, shot,
how you doing today? Man?

Speaker 2 (00:40):
What up? What up? Carson Logan audience, Glad to be
an honorary Nerd for the day.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
You've earned it, man, you've earned it. We both love
your trivia content, as we were just saying before we
started recording, so we should have some fun today. I
will briefly explain the format for anybody who hasn't seen
the show. Logan and I are going to be split
onto opposing teams, so we have both come up with
questions for each other. And then Shaw is going to
be full time quarterback to speak in playground football term,

(01:09):
so he's going to be helping whichever one of us
is answering the question the entire time, So we have
a five minute limit per question. Theoretically, sometimes we may
stretch beyond that, but we try to keep to that
so we don't linger too long on any one question,
and then we'll basically offer hints as needed depending on
the difficulty of the question. So with that logan, why

(01:32):
don't you get us started? What's the first question?

Speaker 1 (01:34):
All right? And honor if you be in here with us, shaw,
I'll give you a shout out too. For his social content,
you guys can check him out at Babita Underscore Tailgate
on Twitter and at babita dot tailgate on ig and TikTok.
Really simple, gentlemen, I need you guys to name NBA
Finals MVPs until somebody messes up.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Okay, who starts?

Speaker 2 (01:54):
I thought we were teammates. We are.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
I guess he's putting us at odds and odds format
I've called an audible all right, I can start Willis
Reid Well, I.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Just already know this is gonna end for me. Let's
go Shaquille O.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Neil Okay, John Halchek, Kobe Bryant, Jojo White White, Let's
go Lebron, Bill.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Walton, Okay, Let's go Derk Novitsky, James Worthy, Kawhi, Leonard
Joe Dumars, Magic Johnson, Jerry West, Kareem Abdullah Jabbar.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Paul Pierce.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Let's go, oh man, let's go Jokich, Tony Parker, Timmy d.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Nice. That's who I was about to go with. Have
we said magic yet?

Speaker 2 (02:51):
No?

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Magic? First one?

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Good?

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Is that yours? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Yeah, yeah, I'm playing magic.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Let's go. Oh hm, I think I might have said magic,
but let's go with Uh. I'm not totally sure, so
I'm not gonna send it. Let's go Hakeem.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Okay, let's go chauncey.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Oh, that's a good one. Okay, how about d Wade.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
D Wade is a good one. Let's go with west
On celt.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Mmmm see, I don't even know if I like, I
assume Logan's checking these because I know.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
These are these are these are automatic for me? Seventy eight?

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Is west On seld Yeah? Yeah, okay, fair enough. Let's
go Elgend Baylor.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
No, no, yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
No, he didn't. He actually never got a ring when
they won in seventy two. He played nine games that
season and then he retired. His knees were like totally
done at that point.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
I can't I can't believe we get to Elgin before
Michael Jordan bro.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Wow No said yeah, class, I was gonna go Dennis
Johnson next. I hope that you didn't say Magic Shaw,
but I trust that Logan was monitoring there. All right. Well,
interesting to start at odds with my teammate. But I
am counting that as a win for the fellas because
we got a lot of finals. MVPs rattled off there.
All right, guys, The Rams are now zero to three

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after their loss just last night, putting them on track
to become the fifth team since two thousand to miss
consecutive postseasons after a Super Bowl appearance? Can you guys
name me the other four?

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Okay, so han, let me confirm the question. Other four
teams to miss consecutive postseasons after winning the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Not necessarily winning, just appearing. There are two winners here,
but four who at least made an appearance.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Okay, since what year?

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Since two thousand?

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Since two thousand? All right?

Speaker 1 (05:00):
The first team I think of is the twenty fifteen
Broncos after Peyton left. Did both of those teams missed
the playoffs?

Speaker 2 (05:07):
I don't know if that's true, because did When was
Tim Tebow's time?

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Tibo was twenty eleven.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Okay before was before Payton? Okay, yeah, because that would
be Brock Osweiler, or.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Yeah, you would we get add in Trevor Simmy in
the year after. I think because Brock got that bag
with the Texans. I'm trying to think about.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
The first mind. The first one that comes in my
mind was Brad Johnson the Buccaneers in two thousand. I
know that defense is pretty wicked. I can't imagine they
lost everyone, but I honestly am unsure what they did
in the one season every single Brady team made the
Super Bowl or made the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Oh for sure to safe bet hm, I am wondering
about that. I think you're right though, two bucks. I
think two thousand Ravens might be a good answer too,
because Dilford does and come back.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Maybe even hmm, that was the thing of the Kerry
Collins Giants, but that might have been ninety nine.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
I don't even know if that counts the Giants. That
was the two thousand Super Bowl. And I will say
I've been holding off on giving you guys credit just
because you were sort of leaving these up in there.
But you have two of the answers and there's actually five.
I misspoke, but the Broncos are correct and the two
box are correct.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
What about the seven Bears?

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Oh well, yes, that's correct. That's the sixth season. The
super Bowl was in February oh seven, but yes they
missed the next two years. Great poll.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Wow, Rex Grossman couldn't get together.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
I guess no, that was not a built to be
a dynasty.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Who would believe it?

Speaker 3 (06:44):
Man?

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Hall of Fame career right there? Uh Man? All right,
so we got three?

Speaker 3 (06:51):
You do, And for what it's worth, the two thousand
and two Giants or sorry, the two thousand Giants are
a great guess. They made it back in O two,
they only lost in the wildcard round, and they missed
it entirely in OH one. So that is as close
as you can get to a correct answer. What if
you guys are off to a strong start.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
What about the team that the Bucks beat? What about
the two Raiders?

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Let's go, dude, that is correct. So just one remaining
and it's actually a super Bowl winner.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
I make it a lot easier because the losers are
hard to concept, harder to remember.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Is it the is it the two thousand Broncos? After
l way.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
No, they won ninety seven, ninety eight mm for what
it's worth, though they did miss in ninety nine, made
it back in two thousand.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Let's see, it's definitely not none of the Steelers teams.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Actually hold up. I don't know, we went eight. We
definite both super Bowl trips. I want to say after
every Super Bowl trip the Steelers went eight. I'm a
huge Steelers fan too, no way, b.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
Yeah, I from you said we and I was.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Like, he's just got a very collaborative mindset. He embraces
all fan bases.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Oh that's gnarly. Yeah that is so cool.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Hashtag here we go.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
I mean, we definitely we went eight and eight after
I feel like, almost every super Bowl trip but two seasons.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yeah, we missed the two playoffs in a row after
Super Bowl. I mean we definitely didn't. You know five,
our defense was way too good to miss.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Those well six, ben could.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Have been they see. I was gonna say the Seahawks,
but you said they won.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah, so I will just give you guys on the Steelers.
They did miss the playoffs the year after both of
their Super Bowl wins, but yeah, they then would make
it the following year. So closer than you might think
for how consistently good they were.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
It's do you think it's the Eagles then? Like Nick
Foles Eagles, I can't remember. I mean, I remember Peterson
didn't last long afterwards.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Hmmm, I remember them being good every year since that.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Any either of Eli's Giants teams, man like, I can
see them regressing to eight and eight pretty easily.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
It definitely could be an ELI giantstam mean, if they
didn't win the Super Bowl, they were pretty mediocre in facts.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
It's true story of his life.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
The super Bowl guy lost.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Man. Would you guys like to put that in as
a guess? Yes, actually it's correct. The twenty eleven Giants
they missed in twenty twelve and twenty thirteen. The Eagles
were a good thought because they did take a step back,
but they made the playoffs. Actually both of the next
two years. They just won nine games both those years though,
So great start, gentlemen, very clean performance. Awesome.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
Good question to Carson from guys that climbed the mountain
and won a title. I need you guys to tell
me the top five NBA players with the most games
played who never won an NBA championship.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
That's a really fun quiesttion.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
One's pretty obvious, or at least one of the five
has to be Carmelo.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yeah, Mello's actually not here.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
Wow, is Chris Paul here?

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Chris Paul's not here either. They're in the top twenty five.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
So Melo played nineteen seasons if I'm correct.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Mello's just outside. Mello's literally the first guy out of
the top ten. So it's a really good guess.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
So that's crazy. So we are on a level that
I didn't expect. I was gonna throw out Dale Ellis
because he played sixteen or seventeen years, but.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Dale ellis top twenty five, right behind Chris Paul.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Actually, we're looking for twenty seasons without an NBA championship.
There's not that many players who have played twenty seasons.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
No, there's not.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
And when we're talking like twenty plus seasons, we've got
to go back old school. I imagine how Greer had
to have won a championship with de wil Chamberlain year
sixty seven. Uh huh?

Speaker 3 (10:57):
Did Sam Perkins get a ring on any of those
Lakers teams or did he join after?

Speaker 1 (11:03):
And that's a crazy good guess. Man, He's literally number ten.
If we're to ten, that would be a correct answer.
That's a really good poll.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Wow wow, that honestly the four of the I've got one,
I've got one to kembe.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
The Kemba's not here either. This is to kembe. Top
twenty five, I mean, you're you guys are cooking. The
top four of the top five.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Are pretty What about Elgin Baylor?

Speaker 1 (11:29):
No brainers. Elgin Baylor is a good guess too.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
I mean, you just have to have crazy longevity, dude.
You have to have played for two.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Decades minimum one three hundred and eighty games played.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
That's remarkable. Okay, so that's not enough for Chuck to
be here, or that's too many for Chuck to be here.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Too many for Chuck? And four of the five got
to an NBA finals.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
Oh we haven't said Reggie. That's an obvious one.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Reggie is here. Reggie is the fourth most games played
without a ring?

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Is Terry Porter here?

Speaker 1 (12:05):
I love the Terry Porter. Shout out, dude, Terry Porter
number thirteen on this list.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
Painting around the corners?

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Okay, how many? How many of these guys are we
talking before the merger? None?

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Actually?

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Okay, all of them.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Surprisingly, all of these guys but one played in basically
the same era of basketball.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
So I'm thinking I'm thinking Jordan opponents. That's just where
my mind goes with that guys.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Ewing, Oh is such a good guest. Dude, he's also
top twenty five.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
That's crazy that he's not. There is Derek Harper here, logan.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Man, dude, Derek Harper's I believe, yes, he's right behind
Dale Elis.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
You know, there's no shame in some good guests.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
No, no, these are these are this is this is
pretty pretty immaculate.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Hmmm. How many? How many All Stars are on this list? Like,
I mean totally years? How many total all stars.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
These guys are? Stones man?

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Okay, oh wow, so maybe we're overthinking.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
This total here.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Let me actually like the Sean Kemp wouldn't have played
long enough. Oh, Buck Williams.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Oh gosh, dude, you're a beast man. Buck Williams is seven.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Though I'm not a beast if I can't actually get
the top five.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
So thirty three All Star appearances across the four guys.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
Remaining, Wow, they're lobsters.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Okay, And I'll give you a hint. All of them
lost in the finals. Yeah to the same guy.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Yeah, all right, So let's think about Carl Malone.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Oh and Stockton, Dude, and Stockton both here, two and three.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
There we go, let's go.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
Man, I just erased those guys from my memory. It
always takes longer than it should.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
And one of these guys never actually got to a finals,
the other did.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
In the nine guys, we're missing one in five right now?

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Correct?

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Oh, we're missing one. I mean, if you've played more
games than Karl Malone and John Stockton period, you're in
some some rarefied air. And is everybody of.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
The Jordan era or all but number one or just
number five is also the Jordan era?

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah? Okay, so and number five lost to Jordan in
a finals? All right?

Speaker 3 (14:23):
Well, Sean Kemp wouldn't have played long enough? Oh is
it dead left? Shremp not deafy? He played like sixteen years.
But yeah, I guess that's right. We're talking about it
pretty crazy.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Who are the six teams?

Speaker 3 (14:39):
So we go Showtime Lakers, then we go Clyves Blazers,
then we go the Suns, where I don't think it's
anybody on that team. Thunder Dan wouldn't have played quite
long enough. Then we go to the Sonics, and then
we go jazz jazz, So I mean, give you a hit?
Is it Percy hot Fukins.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
It's not a bad guess. This guy was a role
player on the championship team.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Oh it's Uncle Cliff. It's Cliff Robinson.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
He is Uncle Cliff's all you guys are missing number one.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Well, it's insane, insane okay, number one position.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
Wing wing Okay. And this is not a Jordanaire guy.
So I think modern because longevity is at its peak nowadays. So, wow,
this is so stupid. It's not Rudy Gay, is it?

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Shout out Rudy Gay. I mean he's years deadlift shrimp.
Also a disgustingly good guess where he's top.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Thirty, you know, good to be in the right ballpark
at the.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Rudy Gay also right behind dead left shrimp. Okay, this
guy one and forty one games played.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Wow, fifteen hundred games. This is gonna be so obvious,
I now, really.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Oh my god, bro, it's Vince Carter.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
It's Vince.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Dude.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
I don't know if I've over complicated a question more
than that. I mean, I'm out here slinging Derek Harper.
We're talking about if Dead Left SHREMP has enough games
and all of those dudes were bona fide stars. That's
a great question. And I've got another question for you
guys about a certain subset of players who didn't achieve
a certain feat, but these guys actually did at least

(16:26):
win the big Game. Can you name me the eight
Super Bowl MVPs who never made a Pro Bowl?

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Oh, this is a fire question.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
I don't know if I can do that.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
You got a teammate for that very yeah, hmm.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
So let's think Malcolm Smith is going to be here, right.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
Nope, never a pro bowler?

Speaker 2 (16:49):
What about Santonio Holmes?

Speaker 3 (16:51):
That's correct, Antonio never a pro bowler? Kind of surprising, Yeah, honestly.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
I mean he had a couple one K seasons with us,
and then when he once to the Jets, he was
honestly done.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
All right, Well, thanks for being honest.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
I just I thought I thought Antonio was gonna be
better after he man.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
No, for sure, Jet actually is Joe Flacco yere.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
No elite made the Pro Bowl. Yeah, Flacco made a
prob I think two or three.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
That's generous.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
There's one there's another Harvey, I can't remember his last name,
Harvey Martin. Harvey Martin.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
That's a good thought. Harvey Martin was a pro bowler.
And by the way, guys, I'm sorry, I literally presumed
that Joe Flacco had been a pro bowler. He was
actually never a pro bowler. So this list is now
nine names long.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
Wow, I cannot believe that Eli got in four times
and Flacco never did.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Didn't Huntley make it last year? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (17:50):
Huntley made it last year. But now there's about eighteen
Pro Bowl quarterbacks. It's got ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
That defeated the integrity of the whole Pro Bowl for real.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
And Tyrod was a pro bowler a year back in
the day, and as sucked gone ridiculous. What about what.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
About Larry Brown?

Speaker 3 (18:10):
Larry Brown correct never a pro bowler?

Speaker 2 (18:12):
Wow? I thought he was.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
He may have been a special teamers pro bowler. What
Desmond Howard?

Speaker 3 (18:19):
Desmond Howard was a special teams pro bowler one time?
How about Dion Branch Deon Branch is.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Correct on the same line to think him about Dexter Jackson, that.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
Is also correct. You guys are cooking only three to go?

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Hm hmm.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
One of these is really surprising. It is honestly more
surprising than Flacco that this guy was never a pro bowler. Well,
I would say, so, hm hmm.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
Like hmm, I figure it's gonna be an old QB.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Then uh no, there is an old QB. There is
actually two throwback qbs left on the list, but that's
not who.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
I was described at Jim Plunkett.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Jim Plunkett never a pro bowler.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
God call.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Hm, I'm sorry, did you say there's another throwback QB too?

Speaker 3 (19:10):
There is?

Speaker 2 (19:10):
What about like Earl Morale?

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Oh, I love that thought. Earl Morale. I don't think
was ever Super Bowl MVP.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
They might just lost it. I think a sixty eight
he lost.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
I would have I think, I mean, I think Starr
was an MVP. I think Lindy Dawson would have been
a Pro Bowl. Uh, definitely, Johnny Hugh, Joe Namath, all
those guys if you.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Like at Yeah, it's not quite that far back.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Okay, m oh, Doug Williams did he winn MVP?

Speaker 3 (19:38):
Doug Williams is correct, nicely done. So now you just
have one guy who, again surprising that he is on
this list.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Hmmm.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
Carry Collins, not carry Collins, never Super Bowl MVP.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
He hugged four in that game Man four picks.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Who won Super MVP that year?

Speaker 3 (20:01):
Ray Lewis Oh, ray Lewis Man. Hmmm, surprising that he's here,
very good, particularly in the postseason. This guy, and he's
not at the typical Super Bowl MVP position, that meaning
he's not a quarterback.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
M I was thinking quarterback.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
Yeah, you're gonna want to pivot off.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
That is it?

Speaker 1 (20:28):
Timmy Smith?

Speaker 3 (20:30):
No, Timmy Smith. Actually not Super Bowl MVP.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
I'm like scared that it's gonna be hind Sward.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
It's not Hines Hines. Hines was a four time pro bowler, Okay,
but honestly, in terms of all time stature, it's not
that far off. Like this guy may wear a gold
jacket someday.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Oh is this it's Julian Edelman.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Huh, it's Julian Edelman Man, never a pro bowler.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
I was. I was just having a conversation with my
business partner last week. Hines Ward Edelman Ocho Senko first
one in the fame?

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Heines, for sure, right, I think it's probably Hines. But
that being said, Chad's got him beat in terms of
like peak regular season production with inferior quarterback plays. So
it might be Chad. If you're rewarding team success, then
heines has the edge. But how much does anyone receiver

(21:32):
have to do with tea?

Speaker 1 (21:33):
I mean, but I mean, but longevity I think matters there.
But I did think Chad. Chad was one of my
one of my favorite players growing up. I thought he
was like a guaranteed Hall of Famer.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
NFL did not like him. They did not like him.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
No, that's true, that's true. But he's definitely got the
highest peak out of that list.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
So they don't like. They don't like to either man,
any of the any of the receivers like that.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
That's which is literally the signature thing of the position
as dudes who can talks and just embrace it.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Yeah, you just brought up some of the guys who
performed the biggest on the Super Bowl stage. I need
you guys to name every player since two thousand two
average thirty points per game or more in an NBA finals.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Ooh in a finals.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Well, we can start with Shack right at the top
of the century. Does it three times in a row?

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Three times?

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Then Duncan didn't do it?

Speaker 2 (22:26):
No.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
Three, he averaged like twenty eight. Nobody did it No. Four,
So I think we can go to d Wade d
waighte is correct. Oh skipped over Allen Iverson, who averaged
thirty five point six and oh one you did.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
Holy shit, it's a lot more.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
He went crazy, man, I mean forty eight in game one.
That's an all timer.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Okay, let's let's knock off Lebron off the list.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Yeah, let's do it.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Lebron also the only other one to do it three times?

Speaker 3 (22:57):
Yeah, that's crazy. And how many them were losses? Twenty eighteen?
He obviously did it twenty seventeen, he did it right.
Those are both losses.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Throw Steph Curry on that list.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Boom two times, Yes, Jannie correct. Jokic now did it
this past year.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Boom.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
You guys just got two to go to go.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
Oh Kobe boom oh nine, he was thirty two a
game and uh.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
MIS finals MVP Kevin durant.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Ka Boom two times. Oh, nicely done, y'all.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
That's a great one. Kadi was thirty five a game
in seventeen. He went absolutely berserk. Let's go, we're cooking shaw,
I mean, you're cooking full time over there. Man, you're
doing work on both NBA and NFL.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
I'm hungry. I'm hungry time.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
Dude was ready to be a nerd for the day. Okay,
this is a really cool question. Can you guys name
me if I do say so myself. Every player to
throw a touchdown at least sixty different receivers in their career,
and there are six guys on this list.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
I'll start out, gotta be the most obvious one. Well,
I have two actually, Fitzmagic, yes, number four, Fitzmagic, and
my second one is Vinnie Testivaci.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
You're number three. Very nicely done, Vinnie, one of just
three members of the seventy club on this list. Wow,
and it's crazy. Ad Yeah, I'll read out the touchdown
to player ratios once we have the full list, because
there's a disparity between those two and some of the
other guys here.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Man, this is tough because you not only had to
be good, you had to be like not good enough
to where like you bounced around in situations. I'll say, oh,
what about what about Brett Farv?

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (24:50):
Farv is number six. Nicely done. He threw five hundred
and eight touchdowns to sixty one players.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
I mean fin, I'm thinking Randall Cunningham.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Ooh, Cunningham is not on this list. Let's see.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Longevity is a good way to think about it too, though,
because guys that just stuck around, like, I don't know,
you think Breeze or Peyton could have snuck in here.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
I can't imagine there's any list in the NFL without
Brady on it.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Yeah, so that is correct. Brady is number one and
it's not even close. Ninety six players and Breeze is
number two, so you guys just have one to go.
Peyton is not correct, but I think he's not a
bad guess. So Cunningham through to thirty nine different receivers,
that's solid. I don't know. Hayton through to forty nine

(25:45):
it's also pretty good.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
What number on the list that we're looking for right now?

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Number five? This guy through to sixty two different players,
and he is the toughest name on this list bar none.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
So it's not gonna be I was thinking like a
Carson Palmer, a Kurt Warner, not on that level.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
No, you have eliminated the all time tier. It's very interesting.
There's like the three dudes on this list who outlasted
all of the skill position players, and that's why they're
so high up with Brady, Breeze and Farv. And then
there's the dudes who were like just good enough to
stick around and play for ten different teams. All right,
that is where the last guy.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Let's let's get weird, is it Jeff George?

Speaker 3 (26:25):
Not Jeff George? But I love it? Keepn coming like that.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
It's a it's a shame. It's definitely not Josh Johnson
despite his travel.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
No, it's not. He has the teams. He does not
have the touchdowns, though.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
You gotta play to make the list.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
I guess, yeah, Jeff George thirty three receivers.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
I shut up my man. Steve de Berg, Oh.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
Would you like to shout him out? No way, it's
Steve de Berg. Bro Steve de Berg. Wow, only one
hundred and ninety six touchdowns, but to sixty two different players.
So that's what I'm talking about, Like fits, this is
two hundred and twenty three touchdowns, Vinnie's two seventy five,
and then the other dudes are all above five hundred.
It's just a crazy disparity.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
Who is the Burg's number one guy?

Speaker 3 (27:10):
That's a good question. Actually, let me pull that up
real quick, Logan, do you have any guesses on that?

Speaker 1 (27:15):
I'd say it has to be in the Chiefs in
the nineties when he had like his little breakout, you know,
twenty five plus TD season. I don't know who's been there.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
That's that's good thinking. It's Stefan Page, who caught a
whopping fourteen touchdowns. I'm not gonna lie. I've barely heard
of any of these dudes. Freddy Solomon in yel metals,
but yeah, you know Freddy Solomon, Freddy fast feet they
called him. And then Gerald Carter is number three. So
how about that he was with the Bucks.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Oh yeah, I think he's related to Jay Z.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
No, that's Jimmy Carter's son, Jared Fault.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Yeah, is it really.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Carson? That's absolutely that's kind of considering how bad Steve
Debergy sucked for most of his career.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yeah, isn't isn't his thing? He was replaced by the
Two Goats or something?

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yeah, exactly, replaced by I'm so glad you know that dude.
Replaced by Elway, replaced by Montana, replaced by Steve Young. Like, wow,
if you wanted to be like a Hall of Fame, QB.
You backed up Steve and Marino too. Marino, it's crazy, man.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
No way he was that. I guess he had longevity
if he hit each two different receivers.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
He played twenty years. Yeah, crazy, great question.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
All right, guys, we're gonna play a game, a Nervous
Sash classic. Haven't broke it out in a while? Odd
man out. I'm gonna ask you, guys three questions. You're
gonna tell me the odd man out for each one.
First one, I won the NBA MVP Award with lower
than forty five percent shooting from the field. Bob Coosey,

(28:52):
Kobe Bryant, Derrick Rose, James Harden, and Russell Westbrook. One
of these guys did not win MVP wither than forty
five percent from the field. Who is it?

Speaker 3 (29:02):
Okay? So Kouzi would literally have been like thirty seven.
He's an easy write off. Russ was I think exactly
forty two point five. Harden was in the forty fours.
I'm pretty sure his efficiency is way better because of
the volume of threes and free throws, but pure field
goal percentage. And then Kobe and who's our last option?

Speaker 1 (29:24):
D Rose?

Speaker 3 (29:26):
Oh wow? They're the two toughest, they are the two closest.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
I've got to lean towards d Rose just based on
the shot selection.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Yeah, I actually think I think Kobe did and not
de Rose. I don't know, because that's the thing you
think about. D Rose is like the rim pressure. But
he took a good amount of pull up jumpers and
he didn't make a great percentage of them. He really
wasn't very efficient. But I could go either way on this.
This is these are the two. I'm very confident one

(30:00):
of these two. I'm willing to trust in you and
go all right, right, all right, I think Kobe's odd
man out.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Big Truz, he is the odd man.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Now.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Kobe was forty seven percent. I believe he roasters at
forty four. Okay, well done, guys, Next up. I was
the leading scorer on a finals champion Tony Parker, Rip Hamilton,
wes Unseld, Gus Williams or Isaiah Thomas.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Well this is easy. It's West Unseld.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Easy under ten points a game, Okay, Final one. I
was a ten time All NBA first team selection. Jerry West,
Tim Duncan, Bob Pettitt, Larry Bird or Michael Jordan.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
That's a great one. I that's a really good one.
My first thought, I don't want to buzz this in.
I think it might be Duncan, as crazy as that is.
For the longevity, I'm not sure if he got ten.
But then again, Larry, there's no way Larry could have ten.

(31:05):
He basically played twelve seasons. Maybe they gave it to
him the first year after his back injury, but there's
no way in his last two. Can you give the
five names again, Logan?

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah, I got you, Bird Pettit Jordan, Duncan and Jerry West.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Pettit is safe, mj is safe? West?

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Who is who is Jay West? Competition at the position?

Speaker 3 (31:38):
So Oscar was automatic first team for the decade. Outside
of that, I can't think of a lot of dudes
taking a spot from Jerry. The thing is he only
played fourteen seasons, and his last season he was hurt.
He missed over half the year. So ten out of
thirteen that's just a really hard rate to hit. And

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you know in the early years he does have to
compete with. This is a tricky one, man, You know what, dude,
I honestly think it's Duncan. I think between KG and Dirk.
I think he would have gotten enough taken off of him.
I'm gonna guess he's at like nine. But I don't know.
What do you think.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
I thought we were looking for who has has ten?
Out of the group, we're looking for who doesn't have ten?

Speaker 1 (32:25):
For who has one of these guys has nine selections?

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Got it understood? Okay? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (32:33):
It sucks because I know that Duncan is eight time
first Team All Defense and seven times second Team All Defense.
That doesn't do anything for us. But I know that
off the top of my head. I wish I had
the All NBA off the top of my head.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
I think I would keep that in the back of
your head too.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Oh okay, word, I don't even know if that does
anything for I think that leans us towards he's under ten.
I mean, he is the most underrated player in NBA history.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
Yeah, should we rip it? Let's rip it, all right,
let's rip it.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Duncan he actually has ten? Guys? Carson, it was Larry
Bird he only gets nine.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
I totally overthought that a.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Little abbreviated to uh, don't can I believe it's ten
West eleven, Pettit eleven Jordan ten exactly. But yeah, Bird,
just a little bit of a shorter, you know, prime
than you realize.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
No.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
I literally thought, he is the one who doesn't look
like KEI belongs here. So I was like, they must
have given it to him the first year off injury,
off reputation. His production was still good that first season,
But all right, we go. We went two out of
three on those Nothing wrong with that. Okay, gentlemen, We're
gonna lean right into your shared Steelers fandom here, because
you guys may have just discovered it, but I already

(33:41):
knew that you're both Steelers fans. I'd do my homework.
Can you guys name me fifteen starters for the OZ
five Super Bowl winning Pittsburgh Steelers?

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Oh? I think we can.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
I'm pretty off, I say, I say, let's name like
every starter. You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
If you want the extra credit, go for it.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
We'll go one by one. We'll go one by one.
You gonna starts off.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Logging, all right, let's let's go offense, Big Ben, Yes,
let's go Hines Ward correct fast, Willie Parker yep.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
Troon bettis.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
Well not considered a starter?

Speaker 2 (34:17):
How many? How many? Scope is scope? Scope players are
considered it started.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
So that's a good question. You've got a full back
left or receiver left and a tight end left es Yep.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
We're gonna have Dan Kreider Ken Krider.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
At full back and we have one receiver left. Yeah,
let's go Antoine Randol.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
That is correct.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
On the line, we're gonna have Alan Fanica.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Yep. Do I have to stay on offense? Can?

Speaker 1 (34:43):
No? No?

Speaker 2 (34:44):
No, no, no, you want let's go Chris Hoke.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
Chris Hope not listed as a starter.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
How about Chris Hope?

Speaker 3 (34:54):
Uh no, not listed as a starter?

Speaker 2 (34:56):
How about Hofen?

Speaker 3 (34:59):
Yes? That is correct.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
On the other side, do we get Aaron Smith?

Speaker 3 (35:04):
Aaron Smith? Correct? Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
I might be mixing my years here here.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
James Ferrier, James Ferrier correct?

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Is it Justin Hartwig? Is that our center?

Speaker 3 (35:17):
No, it's not, but similar name.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Oh it's Jeff Hardings.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
Jeff Hardings.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Let's go with uh the man with no hands, best
cornerback in the league.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
I Taylor, Ike Taylor, I don't know about you, shot.
I don't think any Steelers player has frustrated me the
way Ike Taylor frustrated me week to week On Sundays,
Man Ike was good to get burn a little bit.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
I want to feel I feel that shot does not
relate to.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
That he was pretty good. I mean he couldn't cash.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
I liked Ikeman, but I got Burn a lot. Who
was we got Troy? We haven't said Troy yet? Who
would have been in Free Safety?

Speaker 2 (35:58):
I think it was before Ryan Clark. I don't think
Ryan Clark was in the five.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Actually, I think I might know who it is here.
You get it?

Speaker 2 (36:05):
I got to guess though, is it really gay?

Speaker 3 (36:09):
Not willly gay?

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Is it Mike Logan?

Speaker 3 (36:13):
Wait? Also, I'm sorry Chris Hope was correct. Shout out
to you, seaw I I messed that up. No, not
Mike Logan. So I think you guys you just need
one more to be at fifteen. But if you want
to go for every starter, be my guest. I think

(36:33):
the old line would be hard to get all five,
but we do.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
We got Max Starks.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
Yeah, you got Max Starks at right tackle, Casey Hampton,
of course, Casey Hampton, yep.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Do we got a Marvel Smith.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
Marvel Smith left tackle?

Speaker 2 (36:47):
All right?

Speaker 3 (36:47):
Logan took that personally when I said the old line
would be hard?

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Do we get Trey Essex?

Speaker 2 (36:53):
No two, No, uh, let go Lamar Woodley would been
the second Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Yeah, we would have had Timmins, right, it's not Timmins.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
No, no, he's good linebacker.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Yeah, yeah, definitely Clark Hagen's.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
Clark Hagen's is here, and that's not the second good
linebacker I was talking about. There's a dude better than.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
That, James Harrison.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
We had pas Man.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
That's exactly right, Joey Porter, the original.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
All right, two to go guys, A corner and the
right guard Townsend.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
Oh my god, this is a masterclass, gentlemen. You guys
are cooking. The right guard, the right guard. Let me
see if I can pull up. It's not Foster. This
guy was with the Steelers O two through seven and
he was a consistent starter in that time. Oh, Foster

(37:59):
held it down at guard for a long time, pretty
much right after this guy left.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
I'm just happy I got the right position there. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
Yeah, no, well played right guard and left guard, Raman
Foster played versatile. Wow.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Oh man, I don't I don't wanna, I don't wanna
stop one short. What of this guy's initials?

Speaker 3 (38:19):
Man? Ks?

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Oh this is Kendall Simmons.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
Yeah, dude, Damn, what a performance. Let's go here we go. Steelers,
bring out the terrible towels, gentlemen.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Nicely done. I don't think I have a single friend
who could have done that. Well done.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
A teamwork makes a dream work. Man. I'm pumped as
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Speaker 1 (39:22):
What are Steelers? What are Steelers teams known.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
For dude, the segues here are just unbelievable. Logan defense defense.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
I need you guys to name me these seven players
that have eight or more First team All Defense selections.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
Okay, this I think I think we can do cleanly.
So Duncan has eight.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Yeah we're talking NBA here, Yeah, I was ready to.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
Can I get Brian Urlocker? Okay, I think well MJ
has nine? I think Gary Payton has nine, Rowling Kobe
has twelve. Who else do you need to get? Bobby
Jones and Scottie they both have oh my god, or eleven?
Maybe Bobby Jones Even.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
So, Jones and Pippen have eight First team with duncan
you know.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
You were doing?

Speaker 1 (40:17):
You were saying total a defense.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
Total all defense for those two is where if you just.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
Have one to go arguably the best defender on this list.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
That's interesting because a Keem doesn't have that many first
team selections. I think he only has like six. It
was just insane being a wack in those days.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
A Keem actually only has that doesn't feel like a
real stat. Rudy Gober has more first seam All Defense
selections than this team era.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
Man, I mean, when you're going up against Token Bay
and Robinson and Ewing every year for a decade. You know,
you got to share the wealth a little bit. Okay,
so we have one all time great defender left made
his life. I asked, Oh, it's it's is it Kareem?

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Oh not Kareem, Kareem is Kareem's high up here? He's
got five five Okay. This guy made his last first
team All Defense with Kobe in twenty eleven.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Run our test.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
That's such a good guess.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
Yeah, that's who you would think who was Still they're clamping.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
It's no starters.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
You love this guy, man, I love this guy.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
I know you love this guy too.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
I mean he's got like six All Defense teams, but uh.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Wow, he's on the eleven team.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Or I meant, I meant, yeah, he's on the All
Defense team, not with Cob Sorry.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
I didn't mean Lakers.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
I didn't mean to mess you guys up like that. Sorry. No,
he made his last All Defense It's team in twenty eleven,
the same year that Kobe made his last one.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
Okay, I see, So, yeah, it's some great defender who
doesn't first team on defense. Man, that's the brand. I mean,
how are we missing this. We've already said KG.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
Or no, you guys already said KG. That's my fault.
That's my fault completely.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
Oh well, I'm pretty sure I did. I thought he
was one of the dudes I rattled off. But I've
been thinking him the entire t.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
You could, I mean, you could have penciled him into bam,
that's all the go.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
Okay, yeah, because he's also he's nine or no, how
yeah he's nine nine exactly? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,
great question. Logan. All right, can you guys name me
the one quarterback in Jet's history who has had three
thousand yards in at least three seasons? And I want
you guys to try to rip this correctly. So discuss

(42:52):
your guests and then come to me with something final,
because I feel like if you have multiple shots at it,
you can probably just get it enough.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
How many times?

Speaker 3 (43:02):
At least three three thousand yard seasons?

Speaker 2 (43:05):
Wowa Jet?

Speaker 3 (43:06):
Wowa Jet.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
I'm conflicted between two guys, and it's Nameth and it's
Ken O'Brien.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
I'm not conflicted about Namath. I don't.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
I mean, I wouldn't guess Nameth. Namath would not be
my mo I don't feel like it's him.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
I think his best years, aside from maybe one, was
around twenty seven hundred.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
I think you're right.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
I don't know. I don't know much about Ken O'Brien.
I would say in the modern era, Sanchez has been
their best quarterback, but I don't think enough three years
worth three thousand they get.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
To two AFC title games where he's the majority starter.
But I don't even know if he was. I really
don't think he Yeah, I don't think he was slinging
the rock like that. Oh damn.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
Chad.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Pennington's an interesting answer too, mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
Him and Lavernius call could have could have hooked up
a few couple of years.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
No, for sure. I actually think that's because Fitzpatrick has
their most prolific but he's only there like one year.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
Man.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
I honestly think I'm leaning Pennington right now. I don't know.
I'm I'm conflicted because I because Ken O'Brien was a
good QB. He's just underrated because he overlooked because he
got drafted in the same draft as Marino.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
You know, h what about testa Verday. How many years
we've seen in New York.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Oh my gosh, i't even though about Vinnie. We oh,
we had a couple guys, you.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Might be the best quarterback jets I've ever had.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
You're right, it's a highly esteemed list. Considering all the
names you guys thrown out, one of them is going
to be the most accomplished in terms of three thousand
yard seasons.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
I mean, I actually think I think I'm leaning Vinnie either,
just for if not we get to we get to
answer Vinnie, I give him another shout out. But I
do think I mean he's the that's QB they've had.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
There's definitely no question about that. The question is, I mean,
how many years is he there? Five? Five?

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Maybe that's about right, I think, because he goes he
goes Tampa Bay, he goes Cleveland, he goes Baltimore, and
they asked spends about five years there? Yeah, I mean
my three are definitely Testa, Verdi, O'Brien, and Pennington. I
don't know. I'm thinking I'm leaning Vinnie right now.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
I have pretty much no no way to really conceptualize
who it would be between the three, So I'm down
to toss Vinnie in there in the flames.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
Okay, So you guys did a lot of great thinking here,
and everybody who you named did this twice. But Vinnie
is one of those guys who only did it twice,
and you exactly identified the problem shot. He just wasn't
there long enough. He spent six seasons in New York
in that first stint, but only three as the full
time starter. He easily cleared it in two of those

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three years. The answer is Ken O'Brien, and actually, technically
Joe Namath did it a third time in the AFL,
which I wasn't counting twice in the NFL, one in
the AFL. But O'Brien is the clean leader either way
because he did it four times. But you guys mentioned
Sanchez did it twice, Pennington did it twice. Richard Todd

(46:23):
also did it twice. Wow, and then Fitzmagic, farv In,
Boomerasias and all did it once. Just a rich history
of quarterbacks for the Jets.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
Alabama legend Richard Todd, He's next up after Namath Man's
that's a ridiculous list from the random Jets quarterbacks. I'm
gonna describe a random NBA player to you guys, and
you're gonna tell me who it is. This guy averaged
twenty five points per game one time, twenty points per
game four times. He was top eleven in points per

(46:55):
game four times as well. He had no major awards
in his career, not even an All Star or All
NBA appearance, but he was a one time Most Improved
Player he won.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
Okay, oh man.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
They give it away?

Speaker 3 (47:09):
Is that Rats? I think I know who it is,
as Danny Granger.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
It's not Danny Granger.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
He won one playoff series in his entire career and
was top five in steels per game twice. He retired
in twenty seventeen after a twelve year career with four
different franchises.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
I know who it is, but I should have known
the no All Stars? Is it Monte Alis?

Speaker 1 (47:34):
It's Monte Ellis.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
I thought Monte first, but then I kind of forgot
the no All Star hint because Danny Granger definitely made
an All Star team. But Monte was a bucket man.
And let me tell you, growing up in the Bay,
Monte was everyone's hero. Everyone wanted to be Monte. Nobody
wanted to be that Curry fella. Monte was sick, he
was athletic, he was tatted and he ultimately wasn't very
good for winning basketball, but he was cool. He was cool. Okay,

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this is another straightforward one for you guys. Who was
the Packers all time leader in games played? Mm hmm.
And I'm gonna give you guys, we'll say five strikes
on this one because it's it's worth having some guesses.

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But so I may want you to go all day.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
If Carson's asking this, I would assume it's not gonna
be Brett fav.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
Uh, it would be Rogers.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
Ever Farv now does Rogers have him?

Speaker 2 (48:35):
Was in my Minnesota for what five seasons?

Speaker 1 (48:38):
He's in Minnesota for two, New York for one. Yeah,
I mean I think I still think far would have
outnumbered Rogers. I'm not sure though.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
What about what about like a Mason Crosby.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
I actually I really like that logic. That's a that's
a good.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
Expects you to rip it like that. It's Mason Crosby man,
great thinking. He narrowly has more than Farv two fifty
eight for Crosby, two fifty five for Farv two thirty
for Rogers. They're the comfortable top three. But that was
great thinking. Sixteen years in Green Bay for Mason Crosby.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Yeah, weirdly enough, the second you asked the question, Mason
Crosbey is just like I knew it. I just knew
it for no reason.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
I mean, that's that's great thinking, dude, because like, kickers
have an awesome path. They can just play forever. So
that's that's nice work.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Until they ruin the season for you.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
Yeah. True, true, It's such a brutal job, man. I
think about it all the time, how terrible it is.
Every time I see a kicker miss, I'm like, God,
who does that guy even eat lunch with? You know?
Who does he go out with?

Speaker 1 (49:48):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (49:49):
Tough life.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
It's a it's a no win situation. Man. If you
if you make it, that's your job. If you miss,
you're the enemy of the uh of the city for
a week. Yeah, guys, uh, I need you to name
the top five non big man with the most career rebounds.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
Well, can we get started with Lebron?

Speaker 2 (50:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (50:12):
Lebron is number five.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
I'm assuming non big man is not a four or
a five exactly. So winger Reguard, can we get Elgin Baylor?
He was a monster?

Speaker 1 (50:24):
Can get elgend Baylor? He's number one?

Speaker 3 (50:27):
Yeah, dude, was putting up eighteen boards a game one year.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
Yeah, so that's a decent era to think of because
rebounds were so inflated. But Elgin was also just a
freak man. He was jumping about a foot and a
half higher than everybody else in that era.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
What about Big O? Where do you think he lists?

Speaker 3 (50:47):
That's a good thought, that's a really good thought.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
Wow, that's a phenomenal answer. Big O is number.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
Six, and let's build off of that. And oh see
Russ didn't come into the gates racking up boards like
Big O', but he has played longer. So is he here?

Speaker 1 (51:01):
Russ number four?

Speaker 2 (51:02):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
You guys have one throwback in one big modern guard.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
Big modern guard. Yeah, like a one throwback, one big
modern guard.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
The big modern guard makes me think either Kid or Harden.
I don't know if I mean kid. I think is
like six point three boards a game in his career.
I don't know why I have these numbers in my head.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
I think when he says big, I mean height though.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
Right, But kids, well he's six ' four. I guess
he's not massive, but he was a bigger point.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
I'm thinking like a six seven guard, like a not
Evan Turner, but someone there on that size.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
If it were Evan Turner, I would drop everything and
leave right now. Uh okay, that's an interesting thought. So
let's think Clyde was a really good rebounder. I would
say a long time, I would say, don't ever think
this is it. Jason Kidd.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Jason Kidd is number two, So you guys just have
a throwback wing. Here was a good rebounder about five
a game for his career, but definitely longevity plays into
him being here.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
That's not that many at all to be here. So
this is a dude who played.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
Six point three for his career?

Speaker 3 (52:14):
Is it Honda Bam?

Speaker 2 (52:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (52:17):
Wow, Yeah I thought so. I thought so, and then
the numbers sealed it.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
And then Jay Kid is also at six point three
for his career.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
Let's go all right. So I just mentioned to you
guys the agony of being a kicker, but one thing
that they do overwhelmingly do is lead the league in
point score. However, this year, Raheem Moster is actually leading
the NFL in points scored through three weeks, and that's
something that a non kicker has achieved only nine times

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since the merger. Can you name me every player to
do that, to lead the league in point scored as
a non kicker.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Wow, and you're talking touchdown. You're talking about yeah, real points,
not fantasy points.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
No, no, no, correct. So you contributed six points, okay, and
you can't do it as a quarterback because you have
to be the one getting into the end zone.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
I mean, Ladania Tomlinson has to be here, right.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
Two thousand and six.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
My first guest to shut up Sean Alexander.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
Two thousand and five. Ap oh ap has actually never
done this.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
I was going for the running back MVPs.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
It's a good thinking.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
What about uh was it man Larry Johnson?

Speaker 3 (53:34):
Not Larry Johnsons Priese Toms two thousand and two.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
Wow, all right, so we're going all running backs?

Speaker 3 (53:41):
Maybe mos dude, Randy Moss makes so much sense, but
he somehow actually didn't. What about Jerry Jerry with his
twenty two touchdown season? Did so?

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (53:55):
From now, it's all running backs, Barry not Barry, Walter
not Walter.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
I guess they were playing more detensive.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
Emmett Emmett is correct. Nineteen ninety five.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
What about what about Jim Brown?

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (54:15):
Not Jim Brown? He may have done this pre merger.
I didn't check, but not post merger.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
I saw a stat last week. Well I didn't fact
check it that Jerry or that h Jim Brown never
had attack, never had a rush for a loss.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
I that's incredible if that's true, and honestly I buy it, dude,
I buy it. That guy was one of a kind.
So yeah, Mason Crosby is the one who beat out
Randy in his twenty three touchdown season, and he beat
him out by a field goal. Dude. Wow, LT had

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one hundred and eighty six points, which is the most
by anybody ever, which is crazy because he's a non kicker.
What about what about Eric Dickerson not Dickerson? Good thought,
John Riggins not Rigo. So you have the only guy
who's done this multiple times left haven't gotten him yet.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
You said not not Riggins, as if it was another redskin.
But there's no way it would be another redskin.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
No, No, I did not mean to lead it always
Dryll Davis. That's such a good thought, dude, TD is
somehow not here. Marshall Falk, God, Marshall Falk. He's the
only guy to do it twice. Two thousand and two
thousand and one back to back, and now you've got
the two furthest back players further back than anybody who

(55:45):
you've named so far. Franco Not Franco, Chuck Ford. Who
what are you doing, Roger Craig, I mean keeping comming
fellas we can go all day. No, these guys are
all timers.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
Just respect Chuck Foreman like that.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Okay, oh I will, no, it's his name, but we're
looking at a raider.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
Yeah, yeah, you Arcus Allen, Marcus Allen. Marcus Allen did
it in the shortened nineteen eighty two season asterisk fraudulent
points scoring title. He had fourteen tuddies in nine games
as a rookie. Bro Wow, yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
What are they?

Speaker 2 (56:33):
One more player pre eighty.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
Two pre eighty two Larry Zonka Not Larry Zonka.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
M I mean it's not Franco, is it? Well?

Speaker 3 (56:47):
Why don't you guess him for a second time, Logan?

Speaker 1 (56:51):
It just makes so much sense. He was such a
good dual threat back man.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
We had Stalwart and Swan stealing tutties from them, and
we were a defensive led team, probably keeping the score
pretty low.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
Oh, Jay concerns me when Logan guesses the same dude,
like two minutes apart. Yeah, it's Oj. It's the Jews.
He was loose for a whole lot of touchdowns in
the nineteen seventy five season. Nicely done, guys.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
Is it frank O Harris?

Speaker 2 (57:17):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (57:18):
Yes, has been issued and it is frank O Harris.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
I thought so, man, I just had to guess him
one more time. All right, all right, guys, I got
a really simple one. True or false. Kobe Bryant has
more first round playoff exits than Michael Jordan.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
Okay, so let's think MJ loses first round in eighty
six to the Celtics, and uh, I'm pretty sure that's it.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
No, I think I think. I think he lost first
round two or three years. I think, well, I don't
think they made it in his rookie year.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
That's what I was thinking. So, oh, he might be right.
Eighty seven, eighty seven, you might be right.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
Dam he had even done in eighty nine too.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
No, eighty nine they lost to the Pistons. I'm pretty sure.
Let's think about Kobe. Kobe for sure in six and
o seven. Outside of that, Kobe in twenty twelve, I
want to say would have lost first round. I'm trying

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to think about his first and second years. Those Lakers
teams were good, but they didn't have a lot of
playoff success.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
Like well, there was the one where he airballed the
three in his first or second year, but that was
a I don't think that was his first round.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
Yeah, that I don't think was first round. But I
still I still think Kobe has more shots at it.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
I'm probably a lot more.

Speaker 3 (59:00):
Yeah, he's got more seasons for sure. And then I
mean again, twenty twelve, No, that was second round. They
lost to the Thunder, so it's not that year.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
I don't think he made the playoffs after that year.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
Twenty thirteen, I think with Nash and Dwight, they made
it and lost first round. If I remember, well, they
know they might not have made it. They had to
have made it. I think they made it and lost
first year, they had to have made it. I think,
like I think they won like forty five games. I
want to say, Kobe, here's Kobe the Wizards years they

(59:38):
didn't make it. I think it's Kobe.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
You're saying Kobe has more.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
Kobe has more, Yes, he actually doesn't.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
The only time Kobe lost in the first round was
six and seven to Phoenix. Jordan lost in the first
round his first three seasons eighty five to Milwaukee in Boston,
eighty six and eighty seven. It's honestly remarkable, but they
didn't get bounced more often in the first round.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
Many good never, that is remarkable. I mean good thinking,
seaw you had it with more of the early Jordan years. Wow,
I thought one of those years after the two titles win.
But yeah, I mean, I guess once twenty twelve was
ruled out. That's a good one. That's a good one.
That's a tough one. All right, guys, this is a

(01:00:24):
format of question that I love to ask. Calvin Johnson
had seven different quarterbacks throw him a touchdown pass. Can
you name all of them in his entire career?

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Stafford? Yes? Or correct?

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
What about Chewn Hill?

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
You guys have the top three Stafford with fifty six,
Hill with eight, Orlovsky with seven, Drew Stanton, Drew stan
Throum too.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Oh man, Now you have another two guys like one.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
You have one guy with exactly one, and then you
have a guy with five and a guy with four.
John Kidna Kidnap had five. He's the stud still out there.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Oh, man, I don't know if I'm anything.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
Calvin comes in seven is don't they Culpepper here?

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
Yeah, you're a beast, Logan, don'te Coulpepper threw him four
and the last one is in the very seven season
that you mentioned, and it's the toughest one on this list.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
How many touchdowns does this guy have in his whole career?

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
Oh, in his whole career he has nine?

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
Man, I was gonna guess Josh McCown, but that can't
be right. If he has nine total, they have been
count out there running routes. Man, he's playing wide receiver
for the Lions too, Dude.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
Athletic?

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Is that right?

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
Sneaky?

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
He walks at Taysom Hill could run.

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
For real, dude. Also, by the way, his middle name
is tread Well, So that's how you knew that he
had a bit of that receiver gene in him. He
actual he walked, so Lakwan could not run very successfully.
So this last guy, and for what it's worth, I
think Logan, this falls on you because of your weird

(01:02:12):
obsession in two thousands quarterbacks. This guy his only season
as like a legit starter, he started eight games, for
another NFC team the year after this. That probably won't
do too much for you, given that there's sixteen NFC teams.
Went to UC Davis, go Aggies, where my mom went.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
When did what year did he enter the NFL.

Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
Two thousand and two, but he didn't get any He
didn't appear in a game until oh.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
Four, always with the Lions. Or no, you said he
went to one more NFC team.

Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
Yeah, I don't want to say that one because that'll
give it away.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
I'm not going to be Charlie Betch. No Betch also
went to Eastern Michigan.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
Shout out hmm, all right, he was a team.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
Was he drafted by the Lions.

Speaker 3 (01:03:06):
He was drafted by the Saints two in the sixth round.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
JT O. Sullivan?

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
Yeah, you're a.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
Machine, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
Who JT O. Sullivan? You may know him now as
the Quarterback School. He actually makes YouTube content heed his
like film breakdowns and they're pretty good. But yeah, jto
Sullivan nicely.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
Don did not know he was Gions QB Yeah bounced around.
All right, guys, we're going back to the championship scene.
The teams that just fell short were on the cusp
of being some of the greatest teams of all times.
Can you guys name the five teams with the best
regular season record who didn't win the NBA Finals?

Speaker 3 (01:03:46):
Sure? Can? Can we start seventy three and nine? Don't
mean a thing without a ring?

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
So sad?

Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
Then can we get the sixty seven win two thousand
and seven MAVs. I mean I skipped over one because
the nineteen seventy three Celtics won sixty eight games, that's right?
And uh, who else is still out there? Who won
sixty five?

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Plus?

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
Do we get the nine Calves here with sixty six wins? Yes,
you do, the number five? Okay, so we've got another
sixty six win team left.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Actually, more than that, you have a sixty seven win
team left. Golp and this is disgusting.

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
It's disgusting.

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
Well, I mean that you've that you've cooked this, No,
that you've cooked this, question this, this, uh, this this quickly?

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
Well, I imagine the fans of this team were pretty disgusted
when they didn't win it all. Mm hmm, okay, sixties
they were.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
They were pretty disgusted considering how their playoff run ended.
Sixers not the sixers, that's a good guess.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
Considering how their playoff run ended, some sort of blown lead,
maybe some sort of Shenanigans, Tim Donnage got his got
his impact, felt.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
No cheating more more something just unfortunate injury.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
Yeah, that's what you gotta think. I mean, I just
can't believe that I'm spacing on a sixty seven win
team right now, because there's so few in.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
History kind of forgotten because they got overshadowed.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Are we looking at it like like now, I was
gonna say Paul George Pacers, but it wouldn't be.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
That, not a Paul George pa but a team let
out by a really great wing.

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
So let's think the eighty six Celtics won sixty seven.
They obviously won the title. The fifteen Warriors won sixty seven,
they won the title. There's just not that many of
them in history let out by a great wing.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
Like I said, maybe got overshadowed for some reason.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
Yeah, that's interesting. I mean that makes me think think
MJ beat him or something that's normally where I go
and I think overshadowed. What is this pre or post
two thousand, post two thousand? Oh my god, Okay, so
this is oh my god, dude, that's it. First of all,
a great hint logan. It's the twenty sixteen Spurs.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
Is the twenty sixty seven.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
Games, and they were whooping on the doves when Kawhi
got hurt. Exactly right, Yeah, nicely done. I was thinking
too far back, but they were in rarefied air man.
That's a crazy regular season. I mean, really think about it.
Two teams winning sixty seven games in the same conference.
I don't know when we'll ever see that again. All right, guys,

(01:06:41):
Second to last question here, and it's an interesting one.
Maybe tough, maybe easy, I can't really tell. In nineteen seventy,
Don McCafferty became the first rookie head coach to win
the Super Bowl. Don't worry, the question is not about him.
I'm giving you guys that just for context. Who was
the only rookie coach sense to achieve that feat winning

(01:07:05):
the Super Bowl in their first year?

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
Tomlin goes a ton eight his rookie year, after Coward leaves.
Then we win the Super Bowl in No.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
Eight.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
I didn't know that anybody else had done this.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
Oh, but you knew about the great Don McCafferty.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
No, I actually didn't know, because you did. Didn't McCafferty
coach the Jets, didn't he?

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
Uh no, that you're thinking of webu Bank. McCafferty coached
the Colts.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
Oh, I don't know you. Bank only coached like three
seasons in the NFL too. That's why I was thinking
about him.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
First year coaching.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
Oh oh, oh, it's Barry Switzer.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
Dude, it's not Barry Switzer. But I can't tell you
how good of a thought that is.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
How is it not Barry Switzer?

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
Because he won it in his second year?

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
What did the Cowboys do the year previous?

Speaker 3 (01:07:58):
They won twelve games his first year and they lost
in the conference championship game. Switzer was the one year
out of the four where they didn't win it. That
was his first season. They won ninety two, ninety three,
ninety five. His first year was ninety four. But again,
that's a great thought, and I can't really emphasize how
good of thinking that is too much.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
Jimmy Johnson.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
Oh no, it's not Jimmy Johnson.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
Okay, I mean that I didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
I didn't know if you were trying to leave.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
No, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. It's it's not quite
that on the nose. But there's something very much shared
in common.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
Is it uh first year with a franchise or first
year ever as a head coach.

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
Well, that's actually a good question. I believe both.

Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
Okay, I wasn't gonna guest stick for meal when he
came back to the Rams. I don't know if that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
Yeah, this was this guy's first year as a head coach, period,
wasn't Chuck Nod's for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
Took him a minute. Took him a minute. Correct, It's
worth the wait though.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
Hm.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
What was the team's record the year before? They won
the Super Bowl?

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
So that's that's good thinking. The year before they were
ten and six and they actually won the Super Bowl.
So that's where I was trying to get you with
the Barry Switzer thing. This guy took over for a
great situation that had already climbed the mountain before Tom Flores,

(01:09:30):
not Tom Flores. That's good thinking. The back to back
coach great coach succession chain. You've got the right idea there.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
Uh oh, who is the Broncos coach in ninety eight?

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
Mike Shanahan.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
It's not Shanahan.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
Past the back.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
Pass the torch onto somebody.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
George Seaffert is George Seaffert, very nicely done. Took over
for Bill Walsh. Of course they had already had plenty
of success, and he got it in eighty nine, and
then he won another one with Steve Young.

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
I always forget that guy existed, man, I always forget
George Seaffert coached football.

Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
Yeah, well, nicely done, you got there.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
Good question.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
Five time Super Bowl champion?

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
Oh, because he was on the staffs before that? Yeah,
how about that? How about that?

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
Alright? Last question here for you guys. The names on
here are pretty interesting, but I believe in you. I
need you, guys to name me the top five players
with the most points per game in a single season
who weren't selected to the All Star team.

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
And I had to do this post merger minimum fifty
games played too, because George Michen's on here a bunch
of times because they didn't have it yet, So post
merger minimum fifty games played.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
Well, I think number one? Is it not Bradley Beal
with his thirty one a game?

Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
It is Bradley Beal thirty point five and twenty twenty?

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
How about how about how about Monte's twenty five?

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
Oh? Monte is such a good guess that he's got.
He's top thirty.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
Man compliments doing nothing for me?

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
Man, I think we gotta go ludicrously high here. Can
I get World be free? His thirty point per game season?

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
Yeah? World?

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
Number two was Jerry Stackhouse an All Star when he
dropped twenty nine point eight on thirty nine percent shooting.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
Stack was an All Star.

Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
He was, So I assume that there's a game minimum here, right.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
Fifty games played is the minimum?

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
Uh, you have a guy very very recently on here.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
Well, that's what I'm thinking. It's the offensive explosion. I mean,
it's not Levine. He did average like over twenty five
and not make it a year.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
Levine's a good thought.

Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
Yeah, that's why I was thinking about the game animal,
because I was thinking about Dame because he's averaged thirty
the last couple of years. But I was like, is
there a year he wasn't healthy enough?

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
Dame?

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
Dame's the first guy off this list, number six, well.

Speaker 3 (01:12:08):
Because back in the that's probably from one of his
OG seasons though when he was the eternal All Star
stuff putting.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
Up twenty seventeen.

Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
They wouldn't let him in Okay, you.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
Got one guy or actually two guys in nineteen eighty five.

Speaker 3 (01:12:23):
Oh man, oh man, not again. So that is the
Bernard King scoring title when he put up his third
or two point nine a game.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
I feel like he made it pretty much every year.
It's not Alex English?

Speaker 1 (01:12:35):
Is it not Alex English? That is a good guess.
He was getting buckets.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
It's a good thought though, because you have to think
monster scoring without a lot of team success. You go
to him and Dantley. Could it be a guire?

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
Who's another wing that fits that exact bill? It's not
a guire. That's a good guess, but exactly that's that
exact archetype. Taylor, not Reggie.

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
Too early for Reggie.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
And add aguire did it in eighty five twenty five
point seven that year is top twenty five on this list.
That's a really good answer.

Speaker 3 (01:13:07):
Yeah, this was a real high point. Can I get
Kiki Vandaway?

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
Oh my gosh, dude, Kiki's the second guy off this list.

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
Damn. I can't tell you how confident I was in
that the timeline. Everything lined up beautifully.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
Another not empty numbers wing but not a lot of
teams success. Was just a bucket. You've been kind of
critical of this guy, Carson.

Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
I have, but it's not Dantley.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
Not dantly another guy that you think in retrospect is
a little overrated, young nik it's young man.

Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
I meant to guess nik Off Rip because yeah, the
year before his scoring title in eighty six, he averaged whatever,
twenty seven something and he didn't make it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
Yeah, you guys have a guy who averaged twenty seven
point eight really recently, and another guy in eighty five
who averaged twenty eight. Got a funny name man.

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
Okay, let's key in on the recent dude, because that's
gotta be very gettable. Oh no, oh, Chase A good guess.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
I mean, definitely was getting buckets like that this year,
but he wasn't All Star.

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
They gave him his respect this year. It's not it's
not Trey, right, the prey. They didn't leave him out.

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
Trey, though twenty six point two last year is in
the top is in the top twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:14:26):
Yeah, so they did leave him out. That's what I thought.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
I imagine it's a younger guy because I want to
guess Paul George, but they might just give him an
All Star just because.

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
This guy got a feeling was a little hurt at
the first half of the season. Only plays fifty three
games this year, so I think that could have factored in.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
But he bawled yet twenty seven tone points.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
Twenty seven on forty nine percent from the field and
thirty five percent from deep.

Speaker 3 (01:14:53):
Wow. Okay, this guy was going crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
That's what he does.

Speaker 3 (01:14:58):
He gets buckets. Oh my god, is it book? It's yeah, dude,
he's the other guy. Him and Dame. It took them
a long time to get their flowers. Okay, and the
guy in eighty five you said has a funny name.

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
Oh, goofy name, goofy name, goofy name. I love that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:17):
Oh I know who it is, though, dude, you literally
brought me to it because it's another Warrior. It's purvis short.
It's Perfos short, dude, it's Purvish short. Yeah. I love
the like best scoring seasons to not make the All
Star team. We've done. We've done versions of that before
or careers without an All Star appearance, and that's very fun. Okay. Normally, guys,

(01:15:39):
we end on a question where I ask Logan to
name the starters for some very obscure team from the
two thousands. We're not going to do that today though,
And you know why why we're not gonna do it
is because we uh, we have two Steelers fans in
the building. So post merger, can you guys name me

(01:15:59):
the the top ten rushers for the Pittsburgh Steelers in
a season, no, in their Steelers career.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
Oh, this is hype number one, Franco, Yes, it's correct.
Number two. Let's go with Jerome.

Speaker 3 (01:16:19):
Jerome is number two. They are well above the rest
of the pack, both over ten. K.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
I'm pretty confident three would be Willy, that's correct.

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
Four.

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
I mean, first guy, if we're talking just rushing yards,
just rushing yards, then I want to say Richard, oh.

Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
That's a great guess. He is in the top ten.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
Okay, eight, he's got to be here.

Speaker 3 (01:16:45):
And I'm realizing as I'm looking at this list that
some of the top ten is sort of ridiculous. So
it may not make you, guys go all the way.

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
How many do we have?

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
We have four or five?

Speaker 3 (01:16:54):
You guys have four?

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
We have four? Ten? But yeah, but I mean Le'veon's
obviously on the list exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
Le'Veon is number four.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
We're gonna have Barry Foster.

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
Barry Foster's number six. So you guys have gotten the
seven of the ten that I would expect you to
or no, the six.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
There's one sneaky pick that I think is supposed to
be the sneaky one. Is it Cordell Stewart.

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
That's such a good thought, dude. Cordell is twelve.

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
What about h Nase?

Speaker 3 (01:17:31):
No, Nase is number thirteen, though he's right behind Cordel.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
Kaitlin Warren obviously, next man.

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
Yeah soon, Okay, let me see if I can give
you hints on these guys, because.

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
The I mean, I already know their eighties and nineties guys.

Speaker 3 (01:17:50):
Yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
Yeah, I'm not sure if I'm gonna get him.

Speaker 3 (01:17:54):
Yeah, that's that's that's what I was thinking.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:17:57):
One of these guys shares a name with a great
fictional fighter, Rocky. Oh, Rocky Blyer, Rocky Blyer.

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
There we go.

Speaker 3 (01:18:07):
I want to see if we can get there with
the hints. Okay. This other guy shares a last name
with a famous clothing brand, Louis.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
No, it's not Louis Lips.

Speaker 3 (01:18:21):
But that's that's good thinking. It's the last name for
this guy Gucci, Well that would be so hard.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:18:31):
It's not Gucci though, unfortunately it's.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
Not gonna uh this is Tangent. It's not Amos. Zarraway
isn't here?

Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
Is he not famous Amos.

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
Or not famous Amos designer?

Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
Closing?

Speaker 3 (01:18:47):
Hm hm, you guys may have not heard of these
last three, and frankly, there's no shame in that at all.
The last dude, I don't even know what hint I
would give you except that I've heard of him, but
I'm not really sure why. So I don't know why
I've heard of this guy.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
They're both all three or eighties and nineties.

Speaker 3 (01:19:11):
Yeah, yeah, Oh this guy does TV now, that's why
he works for ESPN.

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
Man, I'm just thinking about Meryl Hodge right now.

Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
Oh wow, really, why don't you let it ridge? Merrill
Hodge is here. That's the dude who I was describing
works for ESPN now at number ten, and that's a
stellar performance. So I'm gonna give you guys the last two,
number five. Okay, okay, go for.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
It, all right, I need some more hands.

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
But yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, all right. I respect the
hell out of that. One of these guys turned sixty
four today, So.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
Let me check the sce real quick.

Speaker 3 (01:19:50):
Dude. That's literally what I was thinking. I was like, well,
maybe they did post about it. Okay, this guy was
the he was a first rounder in nineteen eighty two
out of Baylor. He is the one who shares the
last name with the clothing brand. And uh, he unfortunately
wasn't there for any Super Bowls, so he just sort
of missed the great teams, the steel Curtain teams.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
Yeah, clothing brand, what is the clothing brand?

Speaker 3 (01:20:18):
Clothing brand something you might see HARMANI No, starts with
that letter. It's not that luxury. It's more something that
you might see like a white middle schooler wearing if
they were trying to class it up, maybe like a
pocket shirt. That's so, honestly, it's better. That's a better. No, dude,
those are Abercrombie.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
There you go, cryan Abercrombie.

Speaker 3 (01:20:43):
I love that. No, his last name is Abercrombie's last
name is Abercrombie.

Speaker 1 (01:20:49):
Dude, Tyler, I don't know. I would just be guessing
first name ends.

Speaker 3 (01:20:53):
In It does end as Tyler. Does this guy's first
name Roger Tyler. No, but let's keep letting them rip guys.

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
Baylor Albercrombie, he went to.

Speaker 3 (01:21:04):
Baylor, went to Baylor.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
It's true sailor.

Speaker 3 (01:21:09):
That would be sick unfortunately, not.

Speaker 2 (01:21:12):
Trailer.

Speaker 3 (01:21:13):
Wait, dude, this is so weird. The other dude also
went to Baylor. So both guys left. If we had
any big time Baylor Bears fans on here, maybe they
could get it. Uh. Yeah, that dude, I don't even
know how I would describe him. He shares a last
name with a good NBA player of the nineteen fifties.
That's all I can think about.

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
That's not going to help it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:35):
No, folks like not even no, unfortunately, not even that
good of an NBA player of the fifties, like a tier.

Speaker 1 (01:21:43):
Below that guy like Bill Bradley.

Speaker 3 (01:21:46):
No, like a tier below.

Speaker 1 (01:21:47):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:21:48):
Yeah, no, this is like a guy that it's a
useless head.

Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
This is it's a Carson Reber hoop grid exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:21:53):
It's a hint. I might as well just give to myself. No,
Pollard is the guy's last name, same as jumping Jim Pollard. No,
it's a basic first name, Mike, and keep him coming.
Keep it basic. It's not it sounds great. It should
be that James Pollard, No starts with an F. Frank Frank,

(01:22:21):
Frank Pollard.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
If you knew that one off, Baylor alumb right.

Speaker 3 (01:22:25):
Yeah exactly, you went to Yeah, dude, you know your stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:22:28):
Man. Yeah, he's like top ten on the Steelers all
time wrest of this side, I know.

Speaker 3 (01:22:32):
Yeah, that's exactly right, dude, you are cooking. And then
the last guy, Yeah, I mean Abercrombie is the last name.
First name ends in in the ear sound. If I
were to say this guy, we got it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:45):
We'll figure it out from this. We got enough, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:22:49):
I had such a better hint for the first name
that I should have given you guys, but I won't
out of respect for if you want to just go
from here, Taylor. No, but I have so much respect
for you guys, just ripping first names like this?

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
Is Is this a real name or just like a
made up first name?

Speaker 3 (01:23:07):
No, No, it's a real name. It's a real name,
not xavior shares it with a very famous TV character.

Speaker 2 (01:23:16):
Is it a like a animated character?

Speaker 1 (01:23:19):
Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (01:23:22):
It's Walter Walter Abercrombie. And you guys knew that one.

Speaker 2 (01:23:29):
Well, he's also Baylor of them right.

Speaker 3 (01:23:30):
M hm he dude, he was unbelievable bro.

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
For first rounder in May two.

Speaker 3 (01:23:35):
Yes, yes, yes, literally exactly right? All right, guys, well,
I mean that was this, That was a stellar performance.
How easily you guys cleaned up the the more reasonable
ones and honestly a really stellar day overall. Shot, you
held your own here man in the arena. You did
a really great job. The ball knowledge shows and it
has to if you're gonna go out there and list

(01:23:56):
a bunch of random athletes, and I'm sure research all
the lists that you do for your videos. So Logan
gave a nice little plug earlier, but again go check
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shorts as well, just really fun trivia content. If you
like our stuff, you'll probably like what Shaw does over
there too, and anything else that you want to plug.

(01:24:18):
Any final thoughts, nothing to plug. Appreciate you guys having me.
Definitely proud of my performance. I've seen your guys stuff.
You guys have immense, immense sports knowledge. Looking forward to
be back on It's a lot of fun. Hell yeah, man,
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