Nightcap - Hour 1: Pacers Wild Comeback in ECF Game 1 + SGA Wins MVP

Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, and Joe Johnson react to Tyrese Halliburton and Indiana Pacers beating Jalen Brunson and the New York Knicks in Game 1 of the NBA Eastern Conference Finals, Shai Gilgeous-Alexander winning the MVP, and much more!

01:46 - Introduction
02:30 - Knicks v Pacers
23:50 - SGA wins MVP
1:10:30 - Antman fined 50k from the NBA for profane language

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume. Wow, Wow, Wow, Joe. I can use seven more.
I can use six more games like this. If we

(00:23):
get six more games like this, I won't be disappointed.
Thank you, guys, Ladies and gentlemen, join us for another
ever excuse me an episode of Nightcap.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
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Speaker 1 (00:32):
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podcast from. Thank you, guys for joining us right after
this game to hear us talk basket ball. The Indiana Pacers,
down by as many as fourteen points late in the
fourth quarter, put on a serious rally come back and
take the game in overtime one thirty eight to one

(01:11):
thirty five. Tyreez Halliburton was sensational tonight. Also, Aaron Neie
Milk was really really good. He was great.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Ever, this game lived up.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
To what we thought a final an Eastern Conference or
Western Conference final should be.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
This was it.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
And if we get six more games like this, regardless
of who won, I think everybody will be happy. Please
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this game was unbelievable. I down fourteen, I mean I
think there was down in minutes ten, with like two
two minutes to go, I was like, well, hey, let
me go change out of my my workout little stuff
and get ready to go down there and do night cap.

(02:24):
And I come back downstairs and it's one twenty three
to one twenty one, and Cat said the free throw live.
I'm like, okay, Cat, make both of these. They got
an uphill client he missed one. Uh oh, now we're
gonna play a free throw game. We're gonna play free
throw game, Joe, that what we be about to do. Hey,
I ain't gonna try to get it all back in
one shot. I'm gonna see how y'all have no pressure.

(02:46):
And boy, this was the unbelievable ball game. Pascal sey'all
comes seventeen points, aaron Ne Smith thirty points, Miles turn
Of fourteen points, Nim Hard fifteen points. Tyrese Halibert was
sensational tonight thirty one points, eleven assists. They won this
game because they took care of the basketball. Yep, they
had seven turnovers in an overtime game total, so four

(03:10):
quarters of basketball plus five minutes of overtime, they had
seven turnovers. Jalen Brunson alone had seven turnovers. And that
was the difference in the ball game. They've got to
do a better job of making those free throws. Also,
they was twenty eight or forty, so in other words,
they got to the line forty times and they only
cash twenty eight times. Joe, you watched this game, and

(03:30):
I know, look and I'm like, damn, y'all got to
stop something in there, because I thought I was gonna
be able to have to come on the show Joe
and say, Joe, they got to stop something.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
They can't.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Let can't go get thirty five, Let Brunson get forty three.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Let this guy do this. They said, well, watch us.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
And when they needed to make plays late in the
ball game, they made every play.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
They made every right pass.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
What is it that the Pacers did in the last
two minutes of the game and in overtime that they
were able to go on the road, be down as
many as fourteen late in the fourth, down by nine
with like two minutes to go, and win this ball game.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Oh man, what a hell of a game. On hell
of a game.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
I thought the Pacers have done what they've done pretty
much this entire postseason when they've been counted out. You know,
they got guys who step up, still play inspiration basketball
down the stretch. I think Nate Smith was the player
of the game to me, man, the way I do too.
The way they were down, he was still playing hard
fish and he shot eight for nine from three, I

(04:35):
don't know, from the free throw line, yeah, yeah, four
for four from the free throw line, eight for nine
for three. I'm not sure you're gonna count on that
every night, but tonight he was special and he gave
them their lift that they needed. But they got contributions
from some of everybody. Look at that best TJ.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Mcconaugh.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Come in and you don't get no drop off, Like
he's not gonna hurt you. He gonna help you in
every facet of the game. And I thought, man, they
were just relentless down the stretch, even to start the game.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
I thought they came out ready to play.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
They picked I ain't know we was watching the NBA
or the n c a A the way them dudes
picking up full court, they picking up, they picking up
full court the entire game. And I guess they hold
their whole idea is to wear brunting down, to wear
the knicks down, because you know they're only gonna play
about seven guys and any throwing about eighty nine dudes
at you who are all dogs, and they coming in

(05:23):
and they getting all the straps. It was a beautiful
game tonight, man. I know everybody in New York is his.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
They're sick. They sick.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
I hadn't seen the Knicks fans this sick. Maybe since
Ice Tray did what he did. Yeah, it got quiet
in the other night man, it got quiet, and that
uh you can hear, you can hear. You could hear
Red pel on Cot. Hello, I'm talking about the bell.
Look that's how quiety was.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Joe. I was like, good, good about it. Hey.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
And then when Halliberg hit hit to Hit the ridge
and the choke joined at the l and he was
still on the line.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
I said, oh, yeah, you know he got to come
out and play hard. Now he didn't. He didn't. He
Didne had a little little early sell celebration. Yeah he
had yeah. Yeah. I was like, oh yeah, they got
this one.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
And I came out, I celebrated, asked like a ashy shilling,
like it was a two point.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
I say two dog.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
No, he's behind the line. I said, oh this band,
no Pool the kd older. Hey, but look you look
how they gain. They composed you the overtime and it
still came out and put their mark from the game.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Hey, look we might look up uncle. This inny other
team could be in the finals. This is what I
was talking about because they're so unpredictable because they got
guys like Nate Smith, who you may not count on
to give you thirty every night, but he won you
a game to night, so the next night it may
be somebody else. He could be Pascal Siactle, you know
what I mean, It could be somebody else. So they
got a multitude of cats who are willing to step up,

(06:43):
who take that challenge, and they competing at the highest level.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
I thought the Knicks played great. You know, Brunton and.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
You got four You got fifteen to twenty five from
Brumps and forty three points. You got level of seventeen
from cat thirty five points, twelve rebounds.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Come on now, you I.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Mean you got sixteen from oh G got a you
got sixteen from Michal Bridges, you got eight, thirteen and
seven with a steal from Josh Hart.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
I mean, with damn they they played.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
They played well up the way they had the game
in their hands, but it seemed like laid down the stretch.
They was having these mental lessons where they were almost
turning the ball over, but they kept getting away. I'm like,
hold on Indiana gonna make them pay for this, and
they just kept throwing these little little lackadaisical passes and
end up getting these turnovers.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Man, Indiana is relentless, bro.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
They they they filed the team and they ready, they
ready for the moment down And we've seen this from
there in three games down the stretch against Cleveland, they
find ways just like we saw the Knicks do this
down the stretch against Detroit. We saw them do this
down the stretch against Boston and clutch moments, they find

(07:55):
ways to win. They make the right pass, they hit
the big shot. They do everything ain't right, They get stilled,
they play passing lanes. I mean, look both teams.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
I was like.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Jaylen Brush was fifteen to twenty five, Kat was eleven
or seventeen. But Nick, this is what y'all known for.
Y'all known for defense. Y'all let Tyre's Haliburton go twelve
to twenty three. Y'all let them har go six or ten.
Y'all let Myles turn and go six of eleven. Aaron
Nasmith missed four shots. He was nine of thirteen, eight
or nine from the three. The only guy that really
shot less than fifty percent. That played heavy minute was

(08:29):
really Pascal Siakam. Yeah, seven or sixteen. Other than that,
they shot fifty one percent from the floor. Now this
is what Look, we know Indiana can play defense, and
they played it really good down the stretch. But they're
a team that want to get it out of the
net or getting off the rim. But they want to push.
They'll give you, they'll give you a basket to get
a quicker basket because they want the tempo. They won't

(08:50):
they won't tempo and they know, oh it's easy this
oh oh we hey, yeah it's easy. And next day
you know, you want a tract me And they used
saying both you know, yeah, because they gonna give you
some easy with some good looks. That's gonna sed that's
gonna seduce you into playing that style of play and
that thing.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
You know.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Look, we got one hundred and thirty eight hundred and
thirty five point game. This is what the Pacers want.
They don't think you can put this paint Knicks, Knicks.
This is not the pace the Knicks want to play
at or need to play at. Look, you gotta slow
this tempo down, I mean, and you look, you got
sixty nine points at the half. That's right up, that's
right up there. The pacers alley. They want to they

(09:29):
want to see they want a sixty five seventy five
halftime pace.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
It was right. They want to they want to get
up and down.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Yeah, and when you play that style, you need to
be very very careful because I don't know if that's
what you're equipped to do. And look, Cat played phenomenal tonight.
I thought Bronson played for nomenal. I mean, both teams
played really well tonight. Now they caught some ticket tag
stuff early, but late in the ball game, they did
not want the Knicks to lose.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
That was an and one on topic.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
And the cap Bridget he got him in the chest
and he hit him on the arm and on the
shoulder and they didn't call it.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
That was a damn one.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
That should have been a chance for him to go
to the line and have a four point lead.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
I agree on the rebound. They damp y'all, But Kee,
I bring you poured the band down again. He was like, damn,
you poured the band playing down. And they're like, hey,
play hey, Mitchell Irvin. That's why I got Mitch a.
They're like, play on I was like, with damn, y'all,
ain't gonna call it no foult right, Hey, this playoff basketball.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
And another thing I will say, because Indiana is so deep.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
And remember I've always talked about they got at least
six guys who averaged double figures in the playoffs. Yep,
this doesn't surprise me that Nate Smith had a game
like this.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
What what? What?

Speaker 1 (10:40):
What I was really concerned about the knicks was down
the stretch. You see how these shots kept coming up short.
He had the legs go. They had them legs gone
because you don't play it at this tempo that you
ain't necessarily accustom to playing at every night in Indiana.
This is what they do because they don't really have
guys who playing forty five forty.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Two minutes a night. So uh, this was an up.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
And down game and you know, and and and in
favor of the.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Pacers, and wow, it didn't disappoint.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Man.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
When they hit that shot, I was like, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
After but I said, I was like, man, hey, when
it hit and we're straight up and there, I watched
this thing go in. I was like, yeah, Joe, Joe,
I mean, I said, watch this thing go. I told
Shell I said, shall I watch this go in? And
she she started screaming because of it. I was like,
oh my goodness. There's a difference walking on the treadmill

(11:34):
for forty five minutes versus jogging or sprinting on the
treadmill for forty five minutes. And you see, the pacers
are used to sprinting on the treadmill, so you sprint
for forty five versus team that. Oh oh I exercised,
I get my exercised in okay.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
It kind of like when I tell people like, look,
you can do lip weight and then you can do cardio.
But when you combine the two, that when you can
see somebody car your capacity. Because I'm combining, I'm more
force you to use your strength, your muscles and the
other muscle that heart. So if you notice, sometimes you

(12:11):
get guys that are really strong and you can get
even find someone that's really good at cardio. But when
I combine the two, now like oh damn yeah, And
that's what the pacers want you to do. They want
you to they want you to get up and down.
They want you to try to say, oh man, we
about to get one hundred and thirty. We about to
get one hundred and forty. Hey, we've seen the Knicks.

(12:32):
We've seen the Pacers a couple of times this year.
Get one forty, get one hundred and fifty points in regulation.
You gotta be careful playing at their temple, playing at
their pace. I thought this game looked if somebody if
I tell you, what if somebody told you, if you're
a Nick fan and somebody say, hey, Brunt's gonna shoot
twenty five times, he's gonna make fifteen of them. He's

(12:53):
gonna have forty three points. Cat's gonna have thirty five
and twelve like what we won the game.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Yeah, if we won the game, absolutely, that's what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
If your two big guns and they fired, and they
go off and they're efficient while they're doing it. Now,
if Brunston had forty three points and they took him
thirty two shots to get it, I ain't impressed with that.
If Kat had thirty five and it took him twenty
five shots to get it, I ain't impressed with that.
It took Cash seventeen shots to get thirty five points.
It Bronston twenty five shots to get forty three. They

(13:25):
shot fifty one percent from the floor. But they gave
up fifty one percent from the floor. They gave up
forty one percent from the three point line where you
ask it. And you didn't turn them over like you
did Boston. You didn't turn them over like you did Detroit.
Now they got really good ball handlers. Halliburton's gonna have
the ball in his hand, and he's not a turnover guy.

(13:46):
McConnell comes in, he's not a turnover guy. The thing
I like about McConnell, he knows who and what he is.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Like.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
I'm not Tyrese Haliburton, I'm not Shay Gilgers, I'm not
Luca I'm not one of these guys.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Hey, I don't need to be fast.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
All this between my legs and behind my back and
and Herkie jer gets this is why I'm effective though,
I'm gonna get it. I'm effective and I'm gonna get
it done. And I promise you, wherever we at, I'm
gonna take us to another level. We ain't gonna never
drop off. That's why I love TJ. McConnell. And you know, uh,
his presence that he brings on the court. It ain't pretty,

(14:21):
it ain't the prettiest but I promise you as a
backup PG. I don't know if it can get too
much better than him. Yeah, he comes in with it
on his mind.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Man.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
He's he's aggressive offensively and defensively. He's a pest. Yes, yes,
he moves him pupp as well, just like Peyton Pritchard
for Exceltic. It's like Peyton Privy. But not even just him,
you know, even these other guys, the Obi Toppings, the
Mattherins when they come home.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Obie was great tonight.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
They all our defensive minded and then offensively it kind
of fuels the offensive where they able to get steals,
get in the passing lanes, get get fast break points,
and then it kind of gives them get them going.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Man.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
I thought Indiana was special tonight in that atmosphere. Can
you imagine what it's like playing in there on a
wait team like them dudes came in man, I'm talking
about from the start of the game. I felt they
they imposed they will and they never gave up. Even
when they were down fourteen points. You know, they were
still fighting. They were still under three minutes points off turnovers.
In game one, the Pacers for seventeen turn fifteen turnovers,

(15:22):
they got twenty seven points. The Knicks four to seven turnovers,
they got four points. The Knicks had a ninety nine
points seven ninety nine point seven percent chance of winning
the game. With two minutes and fifty one seconds they're
up fourteen, teams up fourteen plus and the final two
and a half two minutes and fifty seconds in a playoff,
fourth quarter game or overtime, and the play by play

(15:45):
era nine hundred seventy seven and one, the one you
just witnessed it tonight. If you watch this game and
the shot and the play by play era, I think
the play by play goes back nineteen ninety six, ninety
six them correct. I think that's when they started to
play by play. You're talking about nine hundred and seventy

(16:06):
seven and one. He had in that span nineteen ninety six. Okay,
in that span the last three minutes of the game,
I made three's and they seemed like forever, seemed like
three hours. Oh man, Look they kept getting three, they
get a stop like it was just they kept trails like, man,
the ain't not finna come back. And I'll bet I'll
be damn. This was This was an amazing game. And

(16:38):
hopefully we get six more. Oh, Joe, I don't know why.
I know you was having technical difficulties trying to get
logged on. But the Pacers come back one thirty eight,
one thirty five down fourteen points with two minutes and
under three minutes left in the ball game. And you
heard me read off the stat they have a ninety
nine points seven percent chance of winning. And the play
by player ear which started in nineteen ninety six, teams

(17:01):
are nine hundred and seventy seventy zero until tonight, when
you're up by that many points with that few time,
without that few times on the flock, and the Knicks
gave it away. Give them credit. They passed the lane,
they were getting deflections. They almost they almost got it earlier. Yeah,
mim hard almost got one, got another one.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah, But this game was sensational night.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
Aaron Neith Smith thirty points, nine of thirteen, eight of
nine from the three point line. He scored twenty big
points in the fourth. Aaron Eith Smith this playoff, he's
thirty five point thirty five.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
What thirty five May threes? He has thirty five May threes.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
He's third in the NBA fifty four percent from three
point line.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Yeah, hey, hey, young and Joe, listen, this is what
I call playoff basketball.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Now.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
I've watched some basketball over the years on so I've
never seen a game like the night.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
I've never seen the game like to night, when.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Your two big guns are on fire and they're hitting
on all cillingers like they like cat in Brunsonborg. You
expected to win a game like this when you that
amount of points, whether that little time left to go
in the game, You not expecting the other team to
come back and win, regardless of circumstance, that any hypothetical
you come up with. But what we saw tonight, it

(18:21):
seemed unreal. It was like something out of a movie.
This is how move how this is how movie story
endings happened. They happened like what we saw tonight. It's
a great game. You you said it too. The Knicks
won't be able to keep up with that offensive pace.
I think they need to. They need to play at
their own pace and not playing the way the places
played used to, running up and down the floor, back

(18:43):
and back and forth. But god damn man, that the
night was. That was a beautiful game. Now, if we
get six more games, like this. This might be the
guest seven game series of all time if the game
end like this in this maner, Oh you think it's
going seven? No, I'm I'm just I'm just throwing it
out there. But you just like you, just like you,

(19:03):
just like the game to day. The first game it
was pretty good.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Hey.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
What scares me also is I think just like the
Wolves game, it was very important to can win game one.
It was very important to me for the Knicks to
win game one, especially at home. You got you got
to steal that game.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Hey, go ahead, Joe Well Ojo was saying that he
don't know if the Knicks and keep up with this
pace they should play they pace they can't because you
know why, the Pacers apply so much pressure that they
are forcing the.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Knicks to speed up, meaning everything.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
If I'm guarding you full court, yeah, at some point
you may get a step on me, so you figure
you may have to go take what you can get.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
So it's like they induced the Knicks to playing this
pace and it works in that favor because down the stretch,
look with you at you got a lot of sloppy
basketball from the Knicks. A lot of turnovers, a lot
of mishaps, and ultimately it costs you game, you know
what I mean? Yeah, yeah, look I did not think.
But you know what happens, Joe. A lot of times

(20:09):
when you down by so much, so many points, and
all of a sudden you make a comeback. You start
to feel like, oh, we're gonna get this one. Yeah,
you start to feel that you're gonna win. The other
team starts to feel like we're about to lose because
they see fourteen eleven nine eight seven.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Oh damn, hold on, what happened? What happened to that lead?

Speaker 1 (20:30):
And everybody and all the fans like, damn, come o' clock,
but the clock can't go fast enough.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
You know, a young Joe, But I honestly, you know
you said, with the paces doing what they do is
fuck far as far as forcing the next to play
outside of their comfort zone, you got to be uncomfortable
being uncomfortable. You've got to continue to play at the
next pace because if you're trying to keep up and
do just because they putting pressure on you and it's
causing you to it's causing you to have turnovers and
makes all advice passes have the mistakes.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
That's the reason you're losing the game. So you listen.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
I don't know how you're able to do it, Joe,
especially from a basketball standpoint.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Say when I think about boxing.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
Hunk, and there's a pressure fighter, yeah, trying to force
you to fight, but to do everything you can in
your will to stay relaxed and stay calm under pressure
and continue to do your game or whatever your game
player may be. The Knick's gonna have to find a
way regards to the pressure that Indiana is applying to
stay within their game, because that's not the way you

(21:29):
guys play basketball.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
It's just not.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
But here's the thing though, o Jo, the bully keeps
coming up hitting you side your head, and you say, nah,
just don't worry about it, don't That is not what
you do.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
At some point in time, you gotta fight back.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
So what happens is is that they're playing at this
phonetic place. Now you like, hey man, I got me
a couple of easy basket Hey look at it. Hey
I bet the real boom. I got me a couple
of easy When you're like, okay, this is easy, right here,
this is easy, and the next thing you know, you've
gotten yourself into something that you really didn't want to
get into. It's kind of like, oh, Joe, you got
you got a one point lead. Now what you should

(22:03):
do is go down at the one yard line. But
what the guy want to do. He want to celebrate,
so he going into his z on. Next thing, you know,
they get a touchdown, get a two point conversion, they
get the ball and over time first and now you're like, damn,
what happened?

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Yeah, well what happened. You didn't what you weren't supposed
to do.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
And it's a lot easy, And I understand it's a
lot easier to say it than done because, like you said,
but I'm looking at the Knicks even at that phonetic pace, Joe,
I got a fourteen point lead with under three minutes
to go, and I got Michael Bridges, and I got
an og Ananobe and I got Josh Hart. That should
be that those three players with Jellen, Brutheron and Cat

(22:44):
should be enough to hold that because they were enough
to get that.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
So if they're good enough to get it, they should
be good enough to keep it. Let me ask you
a question, what else you read off that percentage? Again?

Speaker 3 (22:57):
When you're had when you're by that many points with
that little time and that's to go, what is the
percentage the game with your chance to win that game?

Speaker 1 (23:05):
The Knicks had a ninety nine point seven percent chance
to win when they led by fourteen with two minutes
and fifty one seconds to go. You know what teams
up by fourteenth plus in the final two minutes in
fifty seconds of a playoff, fourth quarter or overtime and
the play by play era. Prior to tonight, they had

(23:26):
been nine hundred and seventy seven and oh. After tonight
they're nine hundred and seventy seven and one.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
That one the Knicks. You know tonight.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
Honestly, it's probably a little too late, depending on where
you live and where you are.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
I think we all need to play the lotto. Ah,
we all need to play the lotto.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Then listen, I picked any of to go to the finals.
My thing is, man, come on, stop playing. You know
we got that little bit we got come on egg
like nog like that. You know you got you got
a little you got, y'all got it, you gotta you
gotta lot, you got a little double or nothing.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
On the joe.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
So listen with with with Brunston and Cat playing as
fishing as they played today, Yeah, and they end up
still losing the game. I mean it's like, oh, Joe,
It's like you you go for one hundred and seventy five,
TJ get a one fifteen cars and throw for three

(24:24):
seventy five. You gotta run it back one four hundred
and you somehow you lost the game by four. You
know what?

Speaker 2 (24:30):
I like?

Speaker 1 (24:30):
How much better you saw your Bengals do this all
the time? Yeah, Chase Higgins go off no throwing for
four hundred and you're.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Like, how we lose?

Speaker 1 (24:43):
And man, my thing is, they may what if they
what if they not a fishing like this in the
next game. I know Nate Smith may not go eight
for nine from three, but they gonna have other guys
who's gonna step up and gonna play big.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
And you cant out on that.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
If brun Says and Cat don't play like this, they
won't be in no games, Bro, they won't be no games.
What I love is Haller Burton was a fish. It
was aggressive. Twenty three shot attempts for twelve for twelve
three point attempts. That's they get into trouble when he's

(25:18):
on five, he got five attempts, he got eight attempts. No, bro, no,
uh uh not now not Now. We need you aggressive,
We need you pushing pace. Try to get downhill. If
you can get all the way down to the rim,
get all the way down to the rim. And if
they come to collapse, Hey you got great, great basketball,
IQ kick it out.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Damn. Oh, Joe, let me ask you a question, Didale,
What're gonna get you sick? A luxury? Did they get
you sick? Did they get you sick last night? No? No, no, no,
I got the missus got me sick.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Hold on, okay, Ojo, I was paying attention other night
and uh I seen Ojo was a little spider.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
He said they were ballet dancers. He had some ballet. Damn.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yeah, yeah, adun't ballett what what what kind of.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Ballet they do?

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Oh? Show adult adult ballet, you know, like behind like
like Barisha cough ballet.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Yeah, basically that big.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
But it's it's more exotic, it's it's more it's it's
more on the luxurious side of a ballet. Yeah, hey listen,
it's still very graceful. Yeah, just different types of movement
and exactly Joe Joe, we got I got to take
you out there.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
I just got me a job.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
I'm the head security out there, and I just applied
for the head chef job out in Area twenty nine.
You know, you know I can cook. You know I
went to you don't need to cook? No, hey, hold on,
hold on, I went to the Cordon Blue. I didn't finish.
I did two semesters, but I had to go back
and take youre some business. But that's like saying I
went to two semesters law school at Harvard.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
You're not no lawyer. Wow, listen, you're not a lawyer.
But the l A W is there so long. You
just ain't got the white gar yet. Long miss.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
Yeah, Joe, Hey, Joe's beautiful, beautiful, beautiful establishment Joe.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Every Area twenty now, you got to check it out.
I ain't never HEARDing like adult ba. Matter of fact,
you know who's hey, Hey, we know whose about that is?
Oh Earl Thomlins. Is it? That's why Area twenty nine. Yeah,
that's what it is now. Yeah, okay, makes sense, makes sense.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Yeah. Tyree's Halliburton game won thirty points, eleven assists, one turnover.
He's one of five players with a thirty ten a
game this playoffs, Jalen Brunson forty three points, five assists
on fifteen to twenty five field goal attempts. He's the
first Nick ever with a forty point game in the
conference finals. I don't know how much better he can play. Maybe,

(27:45):
he says, you know what, maybe if I cut my
turnovers in half, give you what I gave you last
good night offensively, but cut the turnovers. He had as
many turnovers by himself as the entire Hacel team.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
He turned the b all over.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
It leaves the runout, it leads the easy baskets, and
you try to make it as difficult as you possibly
can on the posing team. Nothing easy in football terms, Joe,
we say nothing cheap, nothing deep, right.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
He look.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
I think with Brunson, I'm kind of boardlining on a
lot of them files. He'd be getting like he initiated
a lot of the contact. Oh col hey, Joe, he
initiated right with the shoulgar and then throw the handbag.
That's called great acting. I'm so sick of looking at that, O, Joe.
I want to see good basketball, man. That's goods the
same way where you don't like watching shape play. Then

(28:35):
he threw he threw that he do the same thing.
But what I'm saying is Indiana is playing great defense.
Like he ain't really just beating him like that up
the dribble. So they staying with him with the first
two three steps and then he initiates the contact and
flail and it's like Indiana, I'm like, man, they playing
great decent They getting a bad what side?

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Man?

Speaker 1 (28:52):
He shot fourteen free throws, made twelve. He probably should
have shot by half of that.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Like it was.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
It was a lot of marginals, you know. Car and
I thought that he got tonight and I was like, man, listen,
that's great defense.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
You know.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
I think bro Miles McBride shot as many free throw
attempts as the most on the Pacers.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Pascal had five and Matthron had five.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Cos McBride had five three throw temps as you mentioned,
Jayalen Brunson had fourteen.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Cat had However, hey.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
And then I ain't standing on it. They get into
their chicken. They don't care at all. Joe, Nah, they
don't care at all.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
This was a great game.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
I hope we get something comparable tomorrow in the Western
Conference Finals. This is what I want to see because supposedly, allegedly,
these are the four best teams, O joe, these are
the two best teams in the Eastern Conference, the two
best teams in the Western Conference. It shouldn't be that big,
that vast of a difference, and we shouldn't see thirty

(30:00):
and forty point victories.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Agree. I'm not saying that we should.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Everything should come down to the buzzer, but I'm saying,
you got to the conference finals and you losing by thirty.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
Yeah, everybody should be equally na No, they should be
equally yoked to this point, especially we should be two
equally matched ball clubs.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
But this was the number of lavable ball game.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
The Pacers had sixty nine points in the half, they
got twenty one and the third thirty five in the
eight in the fourth quarter, and then you got sixty
two from the Indiana. Then they get twenty five, so
they cut into the lead, and then they get another
cutting into the lead. They get thirty eight points in
the in the fourth and they out scoring thirteen ten
in the overtime, and they win and go on the
road snatch home court one thirty eight to one thirty five.

(30:43):
Anything that we know about Indiana. They get greedy, They're
not content with just one. We saw them go to
Cleveland still game one, and what do they do? They say,
you know what, we want Sweet States. Not only do
we want them to make a million, we want power
Ball too, And why yet it give us Fantasy five?
We want it all they So I got them. I
got them, winning by land slide in game two. I

(31:06):
just feel like this pace, obviously, they gonna keep up,
and I just don't. I think the Knicks gonna wear down.
Obviously I've said that in the past couple series, But
at the pace that the Pacers play with, it's gonna
be hard for the Knicks to keep up with that.
Man for Brunts and and cat to play like this
the entire series. Yeah, I don't know if they can
do that. Guys, i'a be honest with you. Andy Gill

(31:27):
just win. Nope, he did what everybody know is the
worst kept secret. He won the MVP thirty three points,
five six and two, Best Player, best Team first in
points second and still first, and plus minus first than
thirty point games first, and forty point games first and
fifty point games. Last year, he finished runner up a

(31:50):
lot of them been made about Shae being at the
pre throw line. Twenty nine of the NBA MVP's attempted
more free throws in the MVP season than Shaye did.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
This year.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Twenty nine of the MVPs and the MVP season attempted
more free throws than what Shae did in his MVP season.
You know what they tell me, It was getting a
whole lot of buckets, Ojo, Yeah, a lot of buckets. Uh.
He flat out got game. And I'm happy for Shaye obviously,

(32:24):
you know, i know this a special moment for him.
I'm sure this is something that he's kind of set
out to do, probably over the last few years when
he probably seen that it was really possible. And him
getting slighted last year, I think he put a little
fire in the come back there.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Yeah, even better.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
And that don't happen a lot of times, man. You know,
sometimes you'll see a guy in it and then he'll
fade away. But Shae, he's been right there, bro from
from the start.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
Hey, Hey, when you look at it, right, I'm not
I'm not trying to say I'm not trying to say
he's this individual.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
I'm saying the way he carried herself. The way he
goes about his game.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
It's worth it. Love everything about it, huh. I love
everything about it, man, you know, I.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Mean you know who. I want to compare it to,
oh old twenty old twenty four down there in l A.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
Just his approach to the game, sty yeah, mannerisms, how
he takes it, the chip that he wears on his shoulder,
never complaining.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
He just goes out and he plays ball. I agree.
All they do is play ball, Joe Nill. Yeah, on
and off the court.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yeah, every man, listen, man, yeah. He and the thing here,
you know, I'm reading reading what his quotes about that.
He said, I figured I could be really good because
I saw the work that I was putting into it.
And then I control what I can control, and then
what I can or don't worry about it, he said.
But never did I imagine this, you see? And I

(33:50):
said this all the time. Oh Joe, you hear me
say this all the time. It's hard for me to
see a player not getting incrementally better. I'm not saying
that he's gonna all of a sudden be an undrafted fridge,
and all of a sudden he's gonna go to an MVP.
But I've said it's hard if you're putting the work in. See,
you can't be mad for resources you didn't get for
the work that you didn't put in. Because see a

(34:10):
lot of times, Joe, people get mad at results they
didn't get for work they didn't put in. Why are
you mad when you know you see? For me, I
can't I don't know what a person does.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
I can just tell you.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
I can just speak to what I did, what I do,
so therefore what I have success. I'm not surprised by
the success that I have because I know how hard
I work, not hard work, and what I tell kids
all the time when they do a lot more speaking engagement,
I say, hard work doesn't guarantee you anything. But I
can tell you this, Without it, you don't have a chance.
It doesn't guarantee you that you're gonna get everything that

(34:45):
you asked for or what you set out to accomplish.
But without it, you don't have a chance. So I
see this young man, and I see where he came from.
He got traded because the Clippers really say, you know
what we want Paul, George and kawh I want Paul,
and I get it. I get why why says I'm
in win not moved. Same thing we talked about Joe
about a Cooper flag. I ain't got time for him

(35:06):
to get good. I need to wear I need to
be good right now. So you wanted Paul George, who
was an All Star, all the NBA player can play
both ends of the court. But you see this young man, now,
this is his third grade year. I think he needs
to average thirty points a game. There ain't a whole
lot of guys in the history of the game can
say that. And he's efficient while he's doing it, averaging.

(35:29):
If you average thirty and you're shooting forty two percent,
they tell him, you put up a whole lot of
damn shots, and people get seduced by raw numbers.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Nah no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
This man shoot fifty one percent from the floor. A
whole lot of people have ever done. A whole lot
of guards have ever done that.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
Can I ask you a question, Joan, You yes, you
know your history much better than I do. You know
the history of the game of basketball much better than
I do. In comparison to what SGA has been able
to do. Being efficient from the field, scoring fifty one
percent while putting up a lot of shots. In comparison,
who does he compare to from the past. The only

(36:10):
guy that's done this from a guard is Jordan. To
score thirty plus and shoot fifty percent from the floor,
only Jordan has done it at the guard position.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
Okay, I'm just.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
Curious because I wanted you to say that because I
heard someone say I just you know, reading the chat,
just reading the chat, and oh yeah, people are so
quick to compareisonbody the Kobe, So I just wanted you
to hear the numbers and why the comparison can you
through based on what he's actually doing in real.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Yeah, he's he's Look, he's more efficient.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
A hardness kind of reminds you more like Kobe with
you know, they're gonna score a bunch of points, but
they're not gonna do it in the most efficient manner. Now,
can they have knights where they go fit you fifty
percent from the floor, Absolutely, but more times than not
they're gonna be probably that forty six forty five percent. Right,
this kid is shooting half is he's making half his

(37:06):
shots now the playoffs notwithstanding, because he hadn't been as
efficient in the postseason as he has in the regular season.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
But you look at all the top guys, none of
them have.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Even Nakola Jokic wasn't as efficient in the postseason as
he was in the regular season.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Obviously, thing changes.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
You're playing better teams, get those guys, get to focus
on you on a nightly or on a nightlyt or
every other night basis.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
And it's not you're playing Charlotte one night.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
You're playing Milwaukee, you're playing Orlando, you're playing Atlanta, you're
playing Miami. This team set the whole game plan up
to deal with you over the course of two weeks
if necessary. Yeah, because when you're competing in the playoffs,
you know we're gonna pay attention to every little detail,
and teams attention to details, and we want to take
your strengths. We want to take them away from you

(37:51):
in the playoffs, you know what I mean. We want
to make you have to use a counter. We want
to make you have to pass it to somebody else
and make a play. But you let alone yourself. We're
not gonna really let you play everything you get. You're
gonna have to work hard for Yes, the stars in
the playoffs this year, the Shades, the yokis. You know
them dudes had They've had to work tremendously hard just

(38:12):
to kind of get theirs off.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
The one thing I love about.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
SHADEO, Yeah, he's not just offensive minded like he Yeah
he has an arsenal as far as in his offensive package,
but defensively, bro he sits down, He plays both fans
of the court. He gets his teammates involved, and that
team they love being around each other.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
That's a scary team I love. I'm happy for Shade man.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
This is this is a huge, huge accomplishment for him,
and I'm sure he's proud of and he's the type
of guy who tried to build on it and try
to learn a couple more.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
MVP yeah as well as you should.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
Sga met the Supermax criteria all the NBA two out
of the three seasons last offseason, but he was ineligible
to side because of the short years of service. Because
he won the MVP and he's gonna be an All
NBA selection, He's now eligible for the Supermax OJO five years,
three hundred and eighty million, or he can sign the

(39:08):
four year two hundred and ninety.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Four million, but would have to wait to the twenty
twenty six offseason.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
I'm good. I ain't got nothing to do. Y'all still
paying me thirty million? You're right, thirty five million right now?

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Ya? Hey, Hey, what you're gonna do?

Speaker 3 (39:23):
You're gonna ride that thirty You're gonna ride that thirty
million out right to twenty twenty six and then next season,
you know, yeah, ahead for that five year three eighty.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Or the four year old. You take the four year
two ninety four, get that money. I mean, hey, you're
really shay only twenty six, oh Joe, let's just say.
I wait the next year, I'll be twenty seven. I
get that super Max three eighty, that's thirty two. I
get me another super Max at thirty two. Goad me
to thirty seven. That's gonna probably be four fifty three

(39:53):
ninety four. Now, okay, my bad, I get I added
a million dollars to it. It's two ninety three not
two ninety four.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Four. Heyen, what well I want to know? Want yo?
What can't you do with two ninety three that you
need two ninety four to absolutely do it? The same things?

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Where where you get that kind of money? Ain't nothing?
There ain't nothing that you want. Say you know what, man,
I want that house. It happen to be two undred
to ninety four million dollars. I showed wish I'd have
got that extra media, or I want this car, or
I want whatever the case may be. Oh Yo, there
ain't nothing that you can't do. That's what I tell
guys all the time.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Bro. Okay, you like a couple of million dollars, three
million dollars?

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Okay, what can't you do with seventeen million that you
absolutely gotta have to do with twenty?

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Right?

Speaker 1 (40:42):
Well, I agree, Hey, some dude, these dudes want their
money on No they they ain't cutting No, he ain't
cutting them, no discount, and he's well deserving.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Man, that the work did you take?

Speaker 1 (40:55):
I'm going guess what, because he can sign the two
ninety three this offseason or he can weigh I'm signing
that right now.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
Yeah. Hey, hey, hey, Joe, Hey Joe.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
I mean I'll pray that contract go die here because
hey we can we can date it at a later
day and time. But I want my signature owner. I'm
taking that for cause Harrison. Okay, he signs the he
signs the next year, twenty six offseason. That's seventy six
million per year, or I can take seventy three to three.
Right now, he give me seventy three three. I think

(41:26):
if he if he takes the one now, he probably
still be if he keeps on them dudes around right, Yeah,
think they're seventy six, Well he still will they still
be able to.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Keep them dues around him.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Everybody well because he guess what, because by that time
you're gonna have to that'll be checked, that'll be coming up.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
Well, it interesting to see what they got with Jaylen Williams,
because that's the thing they want to do away with
the Super Team. Now they'll have their bird rights. But
the question of guys like man, they make it seventy six.
If I stay here, I'm only gonna make thirty six.
I go somewhere else and make fifty. That's why I

(42:04):
got to start the vegetojo. You let hold on, Yeah,
thirty six, Now hold on thirty six times four to
seventy two. That's one forty four all I can do
fifty times four that's two hundred.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Now that's a big difference. That's a big difference, Joe,
one forty four versus two hundred. Yeah, we talked about
fifty six billion over four years. We talked about fifty
six billion dollars difference, that's fourteen MILLI per year.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Now we talk about a whole different ballgame.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
But Yoe, we're talking about two to five billion, were
talking about fifty six million. Yeah, it's it's it's definitely
a different you know what. It kind of puts me
in mind when I was playing in Phoenix before I left.
You know, the year I had to play, the year
I played with Nash and that was the only year
I played with him. It was my contract year because
the start of that the start of that season, they

(42:51):
brought in Nash and Quentin Richardson and they played them
big money to come in. So they kind of put
me on the back burner, like, all right, I know,
we said we was gonna take care of you this summer.
We're just gonna wait till next summer, not knowing that
we was gonna be the best team in the league
at that time, don't nobody, right, So they offered me
forty five million, okay, oh, Joe, and I turned it down. Joe,

(43:12):
they offered me forty five I turned it down. I said, naw,
I feel like, you know, we played out. Shit, I
can get more than forty five. We played it out
and we ended up being a number one team. Now
we lost in the Western Conference finals, but I ended
up getting seventy to come here to Atlanta. Right, what
I'm saying, that's twenty five twenty five? Yeah, that's a

(43:33):
big difference. Yeah, hey, hey, hey, yeah, absolutely, yeah, Hey,
I got, I got, I.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Got a better understanding that. Okay, that's how we get properly. Okay.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
Yeah, now your property right there there, pro Hey, hey,
he ain't tell you about that second contract.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
They decided Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Double that double he doubled about Joe Joe, when you've
got to have that's okay, yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Ojo oo. Okaya, I worked hard for mine, man, I
worked hard. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, hey, look we
all we all work hard. Some of us get paid.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
Differently, though, you know, I understand, I understand, I understand,
I understand. Yeah, s GA will soon become the highest
paid player in the NBA.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Very well deserved. Guys.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Put the time in. Don't call the problem. They play
the game the right way. You can't be mad at
somebody to having that success. Three teams with three players
to win the MVP, the thunder Russ k d Sha,
seventy six Ers, Uh, doctor j want it, will want
it and Joel Embiid won it. Lakers man, Well, what

(44:48):
we talking about here?

Speaker 2 (44:49):
Yeah? Out the ball? Celtics man, what we're talking about? Man?

Speaker 1 (44:53):
The Rockets, you know, they had Moses Malone wanted, They
had a cheam Elijah want to win it. They had
James Harden win it. Yeah yeah, uh and the thund
There's only been a team since two thousand and eight.
Moses Moses wanted, Moses for the Rockets won it twice,
won it once with the Sixers first year that they
won the championship. Obviously a team won it and Harden

(45:14):
won it. But the Celtics, when you look at the Celtics,
I mean you got Havlecheck. I think Dave Cowens won it.
Bill Russell wanted, the Lakers got shot. Kobe Gotta tell
you who else wanted will win it. I don't think
Jerry West wanted. I would probably say, oh, Kareem what
the hell? And Magic what the hell about thinking Kareem

(45:38):
won it three times? He wanted three with the Lakers
and three with the Bucks. Magic won it three times.
Kobe won one and Shot won one. Jerry West didn't
win the Jerry with the Finals MVP. The first year
they had it initiated in nineteen sixty nine, he won
the championship. They lost some seven games to the Celtics,
but he was the first finals MVP.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Puss. Hey, oh a I went six? Is okay?

Speaker 1 (46:03):
You gotta put some respect on Sam Percy's name over there.
Oh he done a great job. Okay, But but you
know what, Joe, He's gonna have to close the deal now, Yeah,
you gotta close the deal because think about it. You
got guys, I mean thinking you got you drafted three
top seventy five players. Yeah, and they and and two
of the three one m vps there James Harden went

(46:23):
to Houston and won it. But at some point in time,
you have to close the deal. Now we we know
you can select talent, and he selected these guys.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
K d Russ Harden. Make the trade, make the trade
for a for Shade.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
Yeah, you drafted Jaylen Williams, all these other guys. You
make the trade for lou Dor all these other guys.
You Chet Homer, you drafted you you you you signed
the hard and started in fregency. You drafted Reggie Jackson.
I mean, you've done a Serge Ibaka. He is only
it's only so much he gonna be able to do.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
Now.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Now he gonna get you. He gonna put the pieces
in place, but he can't go out there and play.
Some of this is gonna have to the ownership is
gonna have to take up on amongst the players to
be able to come out and compete and be the
last team standing. They've been the best team the whole
entire regular season. Yes, for him, he's done his job.
He just got to hope that they sustained and pull

(47:21):
it through in these playoffs. So I think at some
point he'll they'll eventually get one. If not this year,
which I feel like is wide open, I don't feel like, yeah,
obviously Nose might be their best chance to get it too.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
It might be it might be man, but hey, it
ain't gonna be easy. I promise you that KD.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
You look at KD when he won the MVP, he
averaged thirty two points seven rebounds, five and a half assists.
He shot fifty thirty nine eighty seven shape it is
MVP season thirty two point seven five rebounds, six point
four assists, fifty two thirty eight ninety russ when he
averages triple double, thirty one point six, ten point seven,

(47:59):
ten point four, forty three percent from the floor, thirty
four percent from the three, eighty five percent from the
free throw line. So great job of Sam Prestck. Congratulations,
shaved very very well to deserve the Thunder organization. Hey,
you guys playing well. This is what the Clippers traded

(48:22):
to get Paul George. They traded Shay gilg Just Alexander
d Nalo Danello Gallinari twenty twenty two first round pick,
twenty twenty four first round pick, twenty twenty six per
first round pick, Miami's twenty twenty one first round pick,
Miami's twenty twenty three first round pick, A lot of
protective the Clippers first round pick right still in twenty three,

(48:45):
twenty twenty three, they get the rights to a pick swap.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
This year they get the Clippers right to a pick swap.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
So they got one, two, three, four, five first round picks,
two pick swamps for Shae Gilgers and Gallinari for Paul George.
They didn't they didn't see I knew that I've seen
the word, Doc say, he kind of knew Shay was
gonna be special, but they didn't see this because yeah,

(49:18):
not this. Yeah, I thought he was gonna be good. Yeah,
he's gonna be good. But now come on, now, I
ain't see this because if they've seen this, they wouldn't
have got rid of him.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Whether they had to, but they had to because Kawhi
was gonna go to the Lakers.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
If you really want do you really want Kawhi A
d and Lebron and you're playing in the basement. At
least Kawhi gave you some credibility. Now, at least you
think you because Kawhi has won He's finals MVP twice,
he's Defensive Player of the Year twice. So he's given
you hope. He's given the Clippers fans hope. That's why
you know, Dennis, I think that's the name, Uncle Dennis.

(49:52):
And you make concessions what you gave Kawhi to get it?
You make those concessions.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
Yeah, he Hey, Joe and I you think Kawhi would
have been I mean, not Kawhi. You think Sga would
have become.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Who he became. That's that's all I know.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
Neither because sometimes a lot of times when you get traded,
it puts a little fire in you because you know,
as a player, you know it's a business. But at
the same time, you kind of feel like, in the
back of youard mind, you don't want me, that team
didn't really want me. All right, I'm gonna show them.
I'm gonna show him. It makes you lock in a
little harder to you know, to to prove. I don't
want to say prove them wrong, but you know, kind

(50:28):
of proved. I want to prove myself right, to prove
myself that I am the player who I think I am.
And he's done that, bro, since he stepped there. Okay,
see he's he's made tremendous leaps and bounds every year.
And uh, that's what's impressed me the most. Because here's
the thing, oh Joe, because the office, Kawhi is gonna

(50:49):
be first option. He's first option in OKC. It's just
like Brandon Ingram could Brandon No, he couldn't have been
that with Lebron. Brandon Ingram need to get his own team.
Guys need to get that.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
Julius.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
No, he would have been that. He needs to be
on his own team. Sometimes a guy needs to be
on their own team. I'm the first option, so I
can grow, mm I can get I'm only gonna get
oh yo, I'm only gonna get so big when there's
a lot of shade on me.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
I need the son to shine on me. That's a
good one. I like that. I need the son to
shine on me. No, not with Kawhi, No, he was not.
He was not. Does that no ball? You think basketball?
Does it only happen in basketball? Where No, we've seen it.
We see pre shongs.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
You saw pre song when he left Baltimore, what he
did when he went to Kansas City, right all down
because he was a backup.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
How can I do?

Speaker 1 (51:40):
I can only do so much. You coming in and
you giving me five I get five seven carries a game. Now,
I'm averaging five and a half six yards to carry.
But guess what happens when you give me Now, I'm
getting twenty twenty five carrier. I'm getting twenty five thirty touches. Okay,
I'll go get you twenty eight touchdowns. I'll be a
first team off Pro a couple of years. Every fifty

(52:01):
for fifty other yards. It was one of the two
or three best back in the league before I messed
up my help.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
No, I can't.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
I can only do so much o jo when you
don't get when you don't allow me to get with
X amount of touches.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
Yeah, but see, you know you don't see the difference
you talk about. In football, you have to rely on
the calling plays for you. You have to giving you
the ball, you have. Your opportunities come from a coordinator. Okay,
we're calling this play for you. When I figure about
basketball and some of the grace that have opportunities to
play together, but in turn, you guys say, in order
for them to grow, they need their own team. The

(52:34):
gay The game of basketball is free flowing. There's one ball,
but it's only five pero in the court. Yes, so
I see it based on names of what I know
they can do. Well, hell they she's all be able
to play together. All of you good shoot the ball
with the hair, you motherfucker want to shoot.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
It all right?

Speaker 1 (52:50):
You see, some guys who are are really good complimentary
pieces don't know it until you know that that time
has to prove themselves. Meaning, you know, look at Julius Round,
even though he's a he's a hell of a player.
Like he's been through enough to where he knows understand Okay,
I'm playing with a man. I know he first options,
but I'm gonna be the best robbin he could possibly have,

(53:11):
you know what I mean as far as being aggressive
making plays, and some nights he gonna probably get off
the slow starts.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
I gotta be the guy that pick it up.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
I feel like Rando is a guy who has really
came into himself and he knows that understands his role,
and he's been playing it to the t, especially in
these playoffs. So that's kind of like one example I
would definitely give you know what I mean, Jylen Brunson.
You think Jaylen Brunston is this if he's still in
Dallas with Luca. No, he needed his own team. Okay,

(53:38):
I'm mary bad handler.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
It is what it is. Let's be real, He's not this.
He needed his own team in order to flourish. That's okay.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
So that in decimiler with Kyrie leaving and even Lebron
and Cleveland in the same situation, but see they play
different positions. You see Brunson and and Luca played the
same position that both guards. They both need the ball
to be dominant. See, Lebron and Kyrie can play off
each other. It's just like shaqing Kobe, shaqing Kobe. It's

(54:09):
easy to play because it's a big and a little
Magic and Kareem. It's a big and a little.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
Now, we got too, we got too, we got, we
got two threes, we got we got too. Poor, we
got That's why you go back and look at the Lakers.
They had Norm Nixon, they had Magic Johnson. Norm Nixon
was a damn good point guard. But in order for
Magic to be he didn't need to share. So what
we're gonna do. We're gonna get rid of We're gonna

(54:34):
trade Norm to the Clippers, and we're gonna go draft
Byron Scott.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Yeah, Now we got a guy that can shoot. He
can feel the lanes. We got James Worthy, So we
got two guys that can feel. Guess what we get
into a half guard set? Okay, hey, Cap, what you
wanted to the right to the left, right right? Hey,
Look I think about when when Kyrie played with Lebron,
he's like the ultimate two guard. Oh, Joe, I don't know, yes,

(55:00):
look at him as a point I think playing with
Lebron because because Lebron is so unselfish, Uh, it allowed
Kyrie to kind of naturally play that scoring role because
he scores the ball with the best of him and uh,
he was more of a two guard to me playing
with Lebron. And I don't know if he just you know,
wanted to ball in his hands to be able to

(55:21):
make plays. But I thought that was the best, best,
uh position for him, you know, I thought they had
a great, great uh connection. Man. Yeah, look at look
at Steph play with Lebron and the Olympics. Look at
KD with Lebron playing the Olympics and how easy open
the shots did get.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Yeah, that's what it's like. Yeah, right, you're right.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
Everybody's thinking Lebron is like, damn ain't been it's over
because they guy's got to worry about Steph or this
guy gotta worry about KD. Yeah, when you play with
other great players and you're not playing the same position, now,
sometimes ego gets involved, and you know you want to
you know, hey, I want this to be as my team.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
It's this team is that, whatever caation may be. But
you think people would be like that for real?

Speaker 1 (56:05):
Yeah, for sure, absolutely. Yeah, it's just you saw that broke.
Did you see what happened in New England? And you
talking about do you think it's like that you was there?
Of course it's like that.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
Oh, I mean, yeah, that's that's playering coach, That's that's
that's that's different.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
I'm just egos. The greater you are as an individual,
the bigger the ego you have. I don't give a
damn about the sport, right be it in corporations. If
you don't, If you don't think Amazon and Google and
all these companies are competing, you're fooling yourself.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
You're fooling yourself. The video you don't. Don't do that.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
You don't So you don't think Walmart and Costco competing,
Slam Club and costc competing.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
You don't think that. You don't think walmartin Target compete.
You don't think that.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
You do?

Speaker 2 (56:55):
You know there are?

Speaker 1 (56:56):
Of course, That's that's what makes the school we are. Oh,
your competition, there was always competition to go back to whatever.
You had to do certain things in order to win
the man, to win the father's heart, you had to
it was a competition. Well, this guy got he a

(57:17):
he got four golds. Two cow's what you got, I got,
I got some lentils. Now they a't gonna work.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
Bro. I'm sorry you lost, and it was what it is.
But this might be one of the worst trades in history.
What's that? The shame of Paul George. Five first rounders
and two pick swaps, so they still got to a U.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
They still got the Clippers first round in twenty six
that's not a lottery protected.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
They still got a pick swap this year first round.
Now Shake Shake goes through it.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
He's won an MVP and he mess right at won
the title because you know what they want, the title.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
He's gonna beat his finals MVP. Hey, look, it's the
risk that you take. You got to.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
It's the risk that you take when you know, when
you're on a GM and you're making these moves, you
know you don't know how none of this is gonna
pan out. You don't you're going based on on Phiel
or how you think, how you think it's gonna you know,
pan out? And man, I think all that is little
fire on the SGA because since he's left the Clippers, Bro,
he's done number of sin, got an m V and

(58:37):
he twenty six six with the MVP on his belt,
possibly could win a title this year. I don't know
what more you can ask from if you him, uh
to prove your work and uh what you're capable of doing. So,
Like I say, man, my hast goes off to him
because he seems like a guy who's not gonna be complacent.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
Ocho.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
He seems like a dude who's gonna come back and
even more relentless than he was this year. Ye, I'm
looking forward to seeing his progression as a player and
ultimately who he who he ends up you know, becoming,
and what he's able to accomplish in this sport it is.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
I think the thing is, Oh, y'all don't know how you,
but I can speak to me.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
Yeah, once I made the Pro Bowl, I had an
unquenchable thirst or desire and do it again, because anybody
can do it once right now, because nobody expected that.
You talk about the seventh round draft pick, the mainly
special teams player and he goes to the Pro Bowl. Okay, now,
when the game playing for your black ass, what you're

(59:38):
gonna do the whole different ball game when the game play, Oh,
we got a we gotta we gotta deal with eighty
five man, or we gotta deal with number two, we
gotta deal with number seven. Yeah, that's a whole different
ball game. You might catch you might catch a rabbit.
Sneak up on it, set him down, let him know
you're trying to catch it. Yeah, let's see, Hey join

(01:00:05):
the meskuw biss what's going on with Americans? Because in
the fifties, fifties, sixties, seventies, and eighties you had no
foreign MVPs. And the nineties you had won Elijah one.
In the two thousands you had three, you had Nash
one two, Dirk one one. In the twenty ten you

(01:00:29):
had one Jannis. Now in the twenty twenties and American
got one, you got Yanni started it off, and then
you got Yoke Yoke mb yoke nache Man.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Listen overseas they gloomed them dudes.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
Man, they started playing pro ball at thirteen fourteen years old.
They really really learned the nuances of the game. They
learned how to play versus just going out playing every
day you do play. Yeah, So so now you know
they done caught up as far as allan wise, Yeah,
all over with us as Americans and.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Their best players might be better than their best Americans.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
So because when you look at it, it's hard to
say what American player right now is better than Yanni's
Yoke or Sga. It's hard, man, It's yeah, you're right,
You're right, August Hard. It's hard to say is Americans
what Americans are better than them?

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
At? Just go ahead on, y'all. I'll let you take
you want len. I just want to know. I had
I looked up. I had to look up and think
a little bit. Ain't nothing out there, not right now,
ain't not not not right now.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
There are other there are other players that will compliment them,
you know, but they look right up under, right up
the now, but not not too far away.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
Now, Yeah, right up under. I mean, you got Yoke
averaging a triple double.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
You got Gianni's shooting sixty percent from the floor with
thirty twelve and five.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
You got andb doing what he's doing when he's healthy.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
Uh, you got Shay give you almost thirty three on
fifty plus percent shooting. You gotta think, hey, these dudes
probably grew up watching the NBA and wanted to be
a part of course, and they probably just they just
put it in the work. Man, and this is kind
of highest paid off. I think what David's during Envision
Joe was having an American having the Olympic Dream Team

(01:02:16):
in ninety two. That opened up the world, make it global,
That opened it up because out of that you got
a Dirt and you got Giannis and you got Steve Nash,
and you got Yo Kic and you got Luca and
you got Sga.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
That's what you got because they that hold on this
is a world stage. Now. Yeah, so now guess what
you got from Canada.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
You got Germany, you got Serb, you got Slovenia, you
got Greece, and then you got Frank, you got Gimby.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
Yeah, you got my New, my New, you got a
Tony Parker.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
It's it's hey, look, the talent, the talent, the talent
disparity ain't loftside and no more. You know, like everything
is pretty much even, if not lean more toward the
foreigner's way.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
You know, they've kind of come in and and kind
of took the league by storing.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
When you look up, you're like, wow, like the top
guys in the NBA right now, you know, outside of
Lebron you know KD think them them just left yeah, Steph.
But man, these young dudes, these dudes they running the
league right now.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Yeah. Yeah, And.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
Because I've been proud of that. I mean, the thing
was and see, and that's why I said, you know,
it's not a foregone conclusion because when the original Dream Team,
they might have had four or five players out of
all the other countries in the NBA. You go to
any team, now, they got four or five NBA players
on that team. You go to Serbia, you go to

(01:03:54):
I mean, you go, you know, Breeze got players, You
got Canada. Canada is loaded with NBA players. You go
to the French team, they loaded with the NBA players.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
Yeah, So all these teams that you're playing where it
was just one or two sprinkled in here and there,
they got guys. And not only they're in the NBA,
they're playing pro ball overseas. So even if they're not
in the NBA, they're playing pro ball. It's not like
it is, oh, hey man, what you're doing. What you're
doing for the next two week? Come on, we gotta
go to the Olympics. Ain't no more of that, O Joe.

(01:04:25):
These guys are actually playing. Shay hooked. This team up
with teammates up with Rolexes following his MVP announcement, Joe
and Ojo take a look at this video.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Yeah, so perfect time, man, what time it is? Hey,
that's all I ain't done. Now live, that's live. That's
what I did. I did that for the Ojoe.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
When I went to my first Pro Bowl, I had
I think I had like twelve thousand dollars. I got
twelve thousand, five hundre dollars if I made the Pro Bowl. Uh,
I went bought all the offensive lineman. Rolexis the only
one that said he didn't want what I asked. John said, John,
you want a roll lex? He said, nah, tee, I'm good.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
I asked Zim. Zim like nope, I'm good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
The rest of the guys I got, got the other
guy's Rolexes and have my name in Gray Cholm.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Thank you cause you know me on Joe.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
I believe that I could be wrong, but I damn
SUO believe they blocked harder where they know a past
was coming.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
The old eighty four. Yeah, I don't believe that. I
like that. I like that they were like, come on, sharpy,
yeah you know what I'm saying, hey, I mean that's different.
I think about it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
You know, I've never been in a position obviously where
I had to to to buy teammates, you know, yeah,
playing a sport gift says that, thank you now now
that now that you bring me bringing back the key
things in the perspective in context, I bought some watches.
I bought some watches, and and it's funny like now

(01:05:57):
that we got together, like, can I ask and watch
us back?

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
No? No, oh hell nah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
My time, My time is valuable and I need I
need the time that you wasted. I need that watch
back to watch it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
You know, there're people sue for that though. People soon
talking about the this this guy. This lady is sue
and telling about this guy wasted her youth. She's twenty six.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
He what it is about. Were in a different time
in ro man, they ain't.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
Yeah, I am, But that's that's that's that's a great
gesture of shade. Congratulations teammates, congratulations, well deserved. I said,
that's dope. That's real live, man, that's real live. The
NBA announced Anthony Edwards has been fined fifty K for
using profane language during the media interview following the Tea

(01:06:51):
Wolfs lost to the Thunder in game one, he said,
I only took thirteen if a shot, that's they find
it for that. Yes, but oh Joe, we talked about
that last night. I said, Oh Joe, and only had.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
Thirteen shots and he didn't even realize it because he
look at look at his response.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
Yes, so you know what that means.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
He gonna put my gun in tomorrow even to go crazy. Yeah,
look o Joe. And just so he sometimes he may
be a little too rot for TV. You know, it's
like he'd be sitting there talking his homeboys, you know
what I mean. He at the barber shop. Yes, he
career though, Joe know he'd be right there on ESPN
they be they got him tapped in. Hey, look, he'd

(01:07:35):
be lost and gone, Hey.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
Joe, Hey Joe.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
That's what happened to old Joe and I. We get
on here, Old Joe, I forget like damn, I got
a microphone and camera in front of me.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
I can't listen.

Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
Hey, hey, and we we will always remain the same,
authentical to yourself. That's why that's why it's called nightcap
for a reason. And I think people not even realizing
this ain't linear TV, this ain't television. This is something
completely different. So you're gonna get something different every time
into New Watch and Night because hey, Joe, I'm gonna

(01:08:13):
be honest with you, I don't know what I'm gonna say.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
And sometimes when the times of the show, I don't
know what I'm gonna be.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
Y'all know what, And it's like them late it's like
them late night videos may come on, you hope them
kids in beg Yeah, what's gonna go across that TV? Yeah,
if you late that videos you come on with m TV.
That's when they showed you the Wauncher stuff. I want
my MTV. I mean that, Hey, that tells out, Like damn,

(01:08:42):
I don't know that that that came up, but it
shows shit that came out. The Sixers are reportedly not
looking to trade Paul George. The Sixers looked into the
number three pick next month's draft, and everyone will be
watching to see what they're do. They have already been
reports suggesting that a Phillips open the shopping the third
overall pick, and Jake Fisher is reporting that it's more

(01:09:05):
likely the Sixers trade down, not out of the draft entirely.
Another fair, far more important adbit, the Philadelphia may not
actually be looking to trade PG. Recent reports suggests that
the Sixers will be looking to explore George's trade in
the market conjunction with the draft are misread. There have
been no indication they're looking to package George and the

(01:09:27):
number three pick to move him on his own. I'm
trying to figure out so if they trade who and
what they're gonna trade in for Joe that country he
got his huge Yes, you're gonna have to get about
six players back for him because and he signed up
what he got a playoff option too, and he gonna
pick that up.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
Yeah, you know, yeah, he'd be a fool. Not too
so with Joe. With Joe, what s y'all say? What
but trade him a keep him? Well? He is not
that what Joe gonna do? What? What is he? What
does he?

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
Everything is continued it want anything, oh Joe, because if
he can't, if he can't don't get up off of him,
we might well, I mean just just just fess up
and say, look, and we probably did make a couple
of bad investments, but we need to try to get
up off the you know what, I mean yeah, So
if Joel can't come back healthy to where you can compete,

(01:10:22):
because everything is really lies in his.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
In his everything is contingent on him. Yeah. So I
don't know, man, I don't know. Damn got so they
got some young promise and talent.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
I love tyres MAXI yeah, and the and the one
to look guard from Duke who got hurt.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
Oh yeah, yeah yeah yeah McLean look. Yeah he came
in balling.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
You know, in the minutes that he got, the opportunities
that he got, he took advantage of him. He showed
me something that I ain't think he could do. Like
he put up some he put up some big numbers
in that little Yeah. When he was playing, he playing
some good balls. So they got some good pieces. Like
I said, man, the injuries play a huge part of
uh people's legacy obviously teams, uh you know season. So

(01:11:05):
if Joe l NB can't get back to the dominance
that we've accustomed to watching him play at, it ain't
competing for nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
Man. The volume