February 21, 2025 • 52 mins
Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to San Antonio Spurs star Victor Wembanyama being ruled out for the remainder of the season with blood clots, debate whether Luka Doncic will choose not to re-sign with the Los Angeles Lakers, and Buffalo Bills RB James Cook joins the show!
06:15 - Introduction
07:24 - Wemby out for season
19:40 - Lakers under pressure with Luka
26:00 - James Cook joins show
43:00 - Shams reports Mark Williams shouldn’t have failed physical
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The biggest news of the day, Oh Joe.
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The Spurs have announced their shutting down Victor wimbin ya
me Victor wen beyam excuse me down for the remainder
of the season with a deep vein thrombosis. The San
Antonio Express News reported that the Spurs are optimistic that
Wimby will be ready for next season and that they're
not as serious as the issue with Chris Bosh dealt with.
(06:21):
If this is an isolated incident, the Spurs believe that
it will be closer to what brandon Ingram dealt with
six years ago, remember o Cho.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
In twenty nineteen, Ingram was diagnosed with a deep.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Trombosis in his right arm that ended his twenty eighteen
nineteen season, but he went on to win twenty nineteen
twenty twenty Most Improved Player. He has not dealt with
clotting issues since. Also Ojo. Since he's being shut down,
he's going to be ineligible for winning Defensive Player of
the Year because he won't meet the mandatory minimum of.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
At least sixty five games, right, would you?
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I have a question on yes, how are they able
to diagnose how much the severity of the of the
issue is.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
And they're saying it's not compared to what what Chris has.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
They say their hope, they hope it's more in line
to what Brandon Ingram dealt with and not with Chris Bosch.
Remember Chris Bosch tried to play again and it reoccurred.
Because normally, when you have blood cloths, oh Joe, you
have to take blood thinners. That's something that you stay
on for the remainder of your life. So there's a
problem because the cut, because the clots you take blood thinners,
(07:37):
you don't get clotting. So what does that mean. You
get a knit, you get a cut, you could bleed out.
So there's always that, there's always that scare. Also probably
I think you have a greater chance of a heart
attack or something of that nature. My grandmother was on
blood thinners right because she dealt with clotting and she
ended up she ended up ended up having a leg
(07:59):
app you just above the knee. And but like I said, oh, Joe,
she was on blood thinterers for the rest of her life.
And that's normally if I'm not mistaken. Serena Williams dealt
with blood clots also, So it also depends on the
severity where they are start getting me in your lungs
and boy, whooh, you got something to deal with any
place of a blood cud O, Joe, could be it
(08:21):
could be a very dangerous situation. But they're saying their hope.
It's more in lien with what Brandon Ingram dealt with.
He missed the remainder of the season. He was able
to come back when most improved, had had an issue
with it since not like Chris Bosh what eventually led
to his early retirement.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Now now one of the things I do want to
ask you, being that obviously I'm not a health expert.
I don't I don't really know the background when it
comes to things like this, is this something that's hereditary
that does it just happen that regardless of age?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Joe he twenty one? I know that that's Chris was
probably what thirty? Yeah? Thirty? Yeah, like my grandmother was
in we within the sixties. What you deal with us?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
So what deciphers whether it happens regardless of age, is
it is? What is a diet nutrie? I mean when
you think about somebody when bum Jan when Yama, you
think he eats healthy?
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
He always has?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Could I I saw something earlier on Twitter today, Uh,
someone you know be slick at the mouth and say,
I guarantee you he probably he probably you know, he
got the vaccine. I'm not saying I'm not a conspiracy theorist.
I'm not sure if that has any type of effect,
you know, on whether you get blood clots or not.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I've listen, You've heard stories that it does.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
It's called it's caused people to have blood clots that
didn't have before have to get in the vaccine. Know
you think it's something that's probably in the family DNA.
Other people have probably had clots that were you know,
part of the family and it just it trickles down
to to everyone else.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Without without me knowing anything. Oho, it's really hard to say.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Uh, you know. It says the blood clarks are solid
masses deft on within the blood stream when platelets and
fibrin a protein stick together, which called the clot. You
need some clotting because hey, you get cut, you want
your blood to clot. You start completing. Sometimes you take
blood thinner if thans your blood. There's nothing that all
clott it. Okay, boom, that's another issue you could have.
(10:18):
Obviously you get blood clots, you have a heart attack,
you have strokes. It leads to a number of other
underlining conditions. So o Joe, without really knowing, I mean,
that would be something that you'd have to have a
health experts to be able to somewhat in cardiothoracic medicine
or something like that, to be able to give you
a more of a detail to look, what do they
(10:39):
think led to it? Is this something that is a
hereditary Oh Joe, I really couldn't tell you. I mean
what seemingly is a twenty one year old, healthier male. Yes, sir,
and boom. Like I said, Chris Bosh was probably thirty
when he got it. My grandmother was in our late
sixteen early seventies he got it. So I don't really
(11:02):
know the rhyme or reason. Serena Williams got it. She
was in her twentieth and I think if I'm not mistaken,
chat y'all can correct it from wrong. I think Serena
might have had it in a in a lungs, had
one of a lung or something. Maybe it was a
calf or I'm not sure. But people get him in
a variety of Sometimes they get him and they buy
sometime they get him in their arm, they get him
(11:23):
in their lungs. I really don't know, oh, y'all. It's
really it's really really hard to understand some things are hereditary.
I'm not necessarily certain that blood clarks are something that
art a hereditary.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Right man. That's tough.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
That's tough for him, that's tough for the Spurs, that's
tough for the fans obviously in San Antonio. Hopefully, I'm
hoping for a speedy recovery for him and he's able
to come back strong next year and then continue to
dominating the way he had so far since he's entered
the league. A phenomenal talent, very good and prayers prayers
(11:58):
to him and his family as well.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Yeah, I think Serena because I think it happened at Wimbledon.
I think she stepped on a glass, a piece of
glass or something. She was celebrating a victory. I think
I could, like I said, this has probably been twenty
years ago, so I'm just going off the top of
my head and made even long. I think it was
like twenty something years ago, and she ended up getting
a blood clot if I'm not mistaken in her lungs,
(12:22):
I think that's what happened, Oh, Joe, Like I said, yes,
as she saying yes, that's what's happened.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I think she stepped on.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
A piece of glass, ended up getting a cut, ending
up developing a blood clot in a young lung, which
was very very, very very serious. So hopefully, like you said, oh,
your thoughts and prayers go out to a speedy recovery
for Wemby twenty one years old. Such a bright, bright
future in front of him, so hopefully this is only
(12:51):
a temporary setback for a major comeback. But you really do,
like I said, they're hoping. One thing you didn't know,
I can assure you. When Ris Box developed his no
one thought that this was going to force his early retirement.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
You just never know.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
And then brandon Ingram get it. And so I think
for me a lot of times, you know, you kind
of expect you pray for the best. You expect the worst,
but you pray for the best, the best, because the
one thing you are bet it's self, you know, Oh Joe,
You know, doctors always try to give you the worst
case scenario because what they don't want to give you
is a false cyst of security. Oh this is nothing,
And then they come back the day later it's like, well,
(13:25):
I'm sorry, mister Sharp and mister Johnson, it's a lot
more severe. So they try to always prepare you for
the worst, but say, hey, pray and expect the best,
and so it's always easier to get oh thank you,
as opposed to like, who oh man, Lord have mercy
doctor that was true? Oh yeah, so you know what
I'm saying. So uh, like I said, hopefully weinby uh
(13:48):
is because I mean he can do it all. You
talking about the guy that's probably what seventh seven four
and a half seven five with shoes on.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Uh, he can shoot the three mid range. He defend
at an elite, elite level.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
He's looked like he was projected to be one of
the all time great players and historically great defensive players,
with his prowess, blocking shots, challenging shots on the perimeter,
obviously around the riming is everything is and people you've
seen people pull the ball out, they get fast breaking,
he's chasing. They're like, nah, I got a better chance
of Longchia three than laying this ball up and having
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him pinning against the glass. But hopefully weinby this is
like I said, something that's very very minor. It's not miny,
but I'm saying hopefully it's something that he can bounce
back from relatively quick. I think they said they're hoping
that if everything goes according to playing, they'll be able
that he'll be able to resume and be able to
come back next season. So so March, April, May, June, July,
(14:44):
all of September, tib but I think they start to
see them so about eight months, so they'll see how
it goes and move forward from there. But like you said,
oh Joe, we really don't know. I mean this because
when I saw it, the Spurs are shutting Winby down.
I'm like, damn, God just plays the All Star Game
and y'all shut him down. And you know, the Spurs, ojo,
they normally air on the side of caution. Yes, sir,
(15:05):
they started. It was them that started the load management
with Duncan and Parker and Gernobili and then even with
Kawhi as a young young player, he got a load management.
So they're normally they normally are on the side of concient.
But I was like, with damn, they've been overly cautious
with this situation. And I read that because I just
(15:28):
read the headline Spurs wouldn't be down.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
So I'm like, well, damn. And then once I read it, Okay,
you understood why, yes, sir?
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Yeah, so uh that's uh, that's the Spurs are shutting
Victim wimber Yama down because the blood clots uh and
his right shoulder. They said, hopefully he'll be ready, uh
the word they use ojo optimistic. Now he'll be ready
for next season and this is not as serious as
(15:58):
the issue that Chris Botch dealt with. Hopefully it's more
in line to what Brandon Ingram dealt with. He missed
the season, was able to come back and most improved
twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, got a contract, got another contract,
just got it. Recently signed a two three year deal
with the Toronto Raptors. So hopefully we're praying for you
(16:19):
Wenby and your family. So hopefully this is nothing that
you that you can't overcome, and we look forward to
seeing you in the future. So Boston prayers the victim, women,
Yama and his family. Friends of love once.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Oh Joe.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Brian Windhorse says La is under immense pressure to get
Luca resigned.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
He never said I want to be a Laker.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
There are dozens of players over the years who have
made it crystal clear they want to be Lakers.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Luca never said that.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
This hit them out of nowhere, Oh Jo, can you
see the Lakers not resigning Luca in.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
L A absolutely not Listen, they need a superstar. They
need Lebron only have what maybe one maybe two years left.
It has to be a superstar to put to put
butts in those seats. Correct, And who is that that
is Luca, don't it. That is exactly what he's gonna
do at some point. Once he gets gets in shape,
once he gets in rhythm, once he gets his legs
(17:20):
and feet up underneath him, we're gonna get to see
the same Luca that we saw in Dallas averaging twenty
nine average and thirty doing what he doing what he
normally does every night. And he is the future for
the LA Lakers. And absolutely at some point they're gonna
start building around him as the star. Think they're gonna
have to pay. But when do they pay him? When
(17:41):
does that happen?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Well?
Speaker 3 (17:42):
I was reading the other day, Oh Joe, they said
that Luca can side a two year deal. So what
is this year eight for Luca? Ask you? This year
eight for Luca? He signed a two year deal that
gets into year ting in. Now he be in like
and he makes the old NBA team first team one
of those two years in the contract. Now he is
(18:03):
eligible for a super Max and now he can get
that four hundred million dollar contract.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (18:07):
How is that how it goes? Ash? Well, let me
see here is it your seven? So he.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Okay, so signs a two year extension O Joe, this
is your seven Next year, you signed a two year extension,
so three years he can sign, that'll be ten years.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Get him to ten and now he is eligible for
a super max.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
This is very This is very important because here's the thing,
Oh Joe.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Remember now, you traded the guy that you really thought
was gonna be the secession plan to Lebron a D.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
You bring in a guy that's five years younger, and.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Say, now, instead of having made four or five years
with a D, we could possibly have ten to twelve
years with Luca.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
But Luca, now you've already traded a D. You lose Luca?
Now what wait?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
I don't I don't think you're gonna lose him. You
know you're not gonna lose him. Obviously.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
He knows he's gonna be the centerpiece and be the
focus for the future of the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
There's a lot of other teams he is going to
be the centerpiece. Huh, there are a lot of other
teams he can go and be the centerpiece.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
You know he's not leaving la Come on, now, you
know better than that.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Listen his history. Shaq was gonna leave Orlando. They didn't
think Lebron was gonna leave Cleveland. Did you think Lebron
was gonna leave Miami? Did you think Lebron was gonna
leave Cleveland the second time?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Well? Yeah, he.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
He promised him something. He promised him something, He gave
him what he wanted and then he went on by
the business. Did you think Lebron James was gonna leave
in Cleveland? Remember he's he was born and I with
North of Cleveland, an actorate he left. Nobody saw it coming. Nobody.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
I'm trying to think.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
You don't you know, you don't just up and leave
a franchise like that, especially not a not an organization
like the Los Angeles Lakers. Not when you're you're the
main focal piece of everything. You are going to excuse me,
you are going to be the face of the Lakers.
You understand that. He understand that they traded for you
for a reason.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Oh Joe, he knew.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
He wasn't Wiled, he wasn't Kareem, he wasn't shocked, He
wasn't Bob McAdoo, he wasn't Lebron. He didn't request to
go there, he didn't make it. That's what that's my
destination of choice.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Hold on, uh, come on. Now, let's let's let's let's
let's be sensible. Right. Yes, you've already, you've already. You're
in Dallas. You're in a great place. They shocked you
with a trade.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Yes you go to you bet you go to a
historic franchise, a winning franchise like the La Lakers with
the Kobe Bryants have played, with the Kareem abdu Jabbars
have played.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Where they're going to worship you, where they're the unique.
There has to be a star. Yeah you are. You
are that star, and you think the time comes he'd
rather go somewhere else? Where else is there to go?
Where else will?
Speaker 3 (21:00):
So let me ask your question. If Luca went somewhere else,
he wouldn't be the star, he wouldn't be the.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
To be the star.
Speaker 7 (21:06):
But what better place is it than l A Ain't
nothing better than that? No disrespect to other places though
for you, that's not for him. Does Lucas strike you
as a guy that's in all that kind of stuff?
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Remember that? But you were playing. Players are different. You
look at Nicola Yokics, He's like, when can I go home?
We got the parade? Man, I can't go back and
get to my porches. They don't see see you're looking
at it through the lens of an American playing for
the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
You know, you don't, You don't.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
You don't think Luca values the franchise and what and
what it brings, what it brings to him, the brand
of playing for the other Lakers, the brand of playing
for the New York the New York Yankees, or the
brand for playing for the LA Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
You don't think he understands that.
Speaker 8 (21:51):
And and Miguel Soda left the Yankees and went to
and you and went to the Mets. That's right around
the corner that that ain't the Yankees. That's out the Yankees.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
So look, I'm not saying that he is, but I'm
not saying it's not a foregone conclusion that he will resign.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
And I agree that it's not a foregone conclusion that
he's going to sign. But I think it's very incumbent
upon the Lakers that they're hoping and praying, and I'm
sure they've promised him the heavens and the earth because
if they lose him, it's over. Because remember, they ain't
got no draft picks. They just traded the thirty one
and I think they got what the twenty seven and
the two they just traded what they traded thirty first
(22:35):
or twenty ninth. But I only look they got one one,
you know, top a lot of unprotect the pick.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah, listen, listen, I'm you'd have been around the game
a very long time, very long time, and you know
not Miguel so wan so though one so, even though,
even though even if he European players don't have that
same feel for playing for historic franchises like the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
You know, good and well, he ain't going nowhere? Good, well,
he ain't going no. Well, we'll come back to this.
Right now.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
We're being joined by two time Pro Bowl running back
James Cook. James, thank you for joining us, bro, jac
what's up?
Speaker 1 (23:15):
What?
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Why? Let me hold something?
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Man?
Speaker 2 (23:19):
You got it, Bady listen put it on the floor.
Well I'm gonna pick it up. Man, James.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Let's talk about this great season that you had over
a thousand yards. I think what fifteen rush touchdowns during
the season had an outstanding Like we just dropped in bed.
Withers guy, he's on his cell phone. He was kind
enough to join us. He was not gonna be in
a situation where he could get land.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
But I'm bad. I appreciate that, bro, Yeah, I was.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
As I was saying, great season running the football, revamped
offense as far as running the football offensive coordinator for
first time full time, he blended took over last a
year ago. In the halfway through the season, when you
look at what you what you were able to do
in particular, and what this team was able to do
(24:08):
considering all the pieces that you lost. You lost your
two top receivers Matt Mullonel was injured a lot of
the season, a lot of your dbs, both of your
safeties and White gone. Nobody really expected you guys to
be in this situation. Did you really think that you
guys had an opportunity chance to end up being where
you were in the AFC Championship game and what three
(24:31):
points away from actually winning that game.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Without a doubt. I mean when you got on seven
back there, it's always a chance. Like That's what I say, Like,
I just feel like he wanted the best and he
gonna put us in the best situation always win.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
So he back there and we back there and we
connecting is something great.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Listen, Everybody always talks about Josh Allen. They always talked
about him losing you know, some of this of losing
digs and then not having a superior weapons on the outside.
But what people don't talk about enough of is what
you've been able to do. You take some of the
pressure off of h Josh Allen. Listen, you stepped into
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a bigger role in the Bills offense. You know, how
have you embraced being a centerpiece in that system. I
just can't to work every day forever, real, Like that's
all I can ever do. Like I can control what
I can control that end of the day. But when
you don't come in there and work, and you don't
come there and be that guy and that be that
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neither in the locker room, that you would never be nothing.
So that's what I tried to come and do, and
I feel like it's been working. I'm a team guy.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
I'm always coming there and work and when they come
on Sundays, I gotta gotta.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Kill you, Jane. When I look at you, guys, I mean,
you get so close every year.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
You had the best record in the AFC two years
ago and then you end up losing at UH to
Baltimore and then this year you had an unbelievable season
and Elite lose to Kansas City in the championship game.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
What is the next step?
Speaker 3 (26:09):
What do you guys need to do in order to
get over that hump, which is Patrick Mahoons.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
In the AFC. You got to be aggressive, Like I
just feel like we gotta be aggressive.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
And with a guy like one five back there, you
gotta you gotta just gotta beat them, like Laurls story,
like I can't say nothing, she just gotta beat them.
So when you come in games like that and you know,
when of your back against the wall, then you gotta win.
And you got your guys next to you, you gotta
go win. Ship you know, you playing one five.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
You know, you know, you know how it's gonna be.
You know it's gonna be ebbs and flows of the game.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
So you gotta just control what you can control and
go out there and play football at the end of
the day.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
So you would you would like to be more aggressive
early on.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
You feel like you got when you guys fell behind,
then you became aggressive.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
You'd like to see that from the word jump oh
off the rip, Yeah, you know, and it never happened.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
It never happens that way for some reason, especially when
you get to playoff games with games of extreme importance.
Most of the time, I think sometimes, especially from a
coaching standpoint, as an officer coordinator, you say you overthink,
you overthink the game instead of just playing free. You
know you you already have what you've already done throughout
the entirety of the season because you're playing the Kansas
City Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
There's no need to press.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Just continue to do what you've always done, and you
use your bell Kyle, you for instance, in seventeen and
just rock out. And I think they lost sight of that,
or he the officer coardy, had lost sight of that
once you got to that game, and not allowing himself
to just just play freely, call the plays freely, because
you got all you need right there in hand, and
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I think for one y'all are going to consistently be back.
You know, obviously you're in AFC, Obviously I'm a Bengal fan,
but understanding what you guys have and I'm going to
talk about you from an individual standpoint and how much
your game has evolved from a rookie to now and
where you are right now, what do you think you
need to work on? As good as you've gotten from
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your rookie season to this point, what do you think
you need to work on to continually evolve at the
running back position.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I just feel like I can.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
I just got to keep getting better and you know,
like be able to be on fair every dawn like
and key situations like I feel like I could do it.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Ship just look at this point what else more I
could do?
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Like?
Speaker 2 (28:30):
So, I just feel like, man, just keep me on
the feeling and great games will happen. Hey, also, hold on,
I got I got one more.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
I like.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
I like this here, I like this.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
There are a lot of good running backs in the league,
right you know, Henry's, the McCaffrey's, even even though it
was injured for most of the season. If there was
one thing you could take from one of the running
backs in the league that you look up to and
and and you're a fan of, if there was one
thing from their game you can add to.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Yours, what what would it be?
Speaker 5 (29:01):
Go with Christian McCaffrey, just like just all the explosiveness
that he got in his game and what he can
do with the ball and so many positions that he
can be in and you don't even know when he
getting the ball and he just get the.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Ball and just cod this bitch like yeah, like all that.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Like so just putting that traits in my game and
be able to learn from from what he doing in
my Like I looked up to my brother, so it's
like whatever he could, whatever I learned from him, I
put that in my game. And yeah, just trying to
just go out there and play football.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
At the end of the day. Shit, we've been doing it.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Yes, sir, there are reports to James and you can
confirm with it now is that you want to be
the highest paid running back in the NFL and men like,
hold on, wait a minute, now, I don't know if
he's earned that or he's deserving of that. What do
you say to the people that says, man James could
don't deserve to be the high.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Pinted running back. I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
At the end of the day, I feel like we're
just going to get his running backs and I feel
like we deserve to get paid. And because when they
come down to the back end of the season, we
we we play a big part of this ship.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Like so.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
However, they want to take it. Then I'm staying with
the running back ship. We deserve it ship.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Now if I'm not mistaken, you could correct me if
I'm wrong again. Now it's reported that there were a
phone call between a lot of the top running backs,
yourself and McCaffrey and Deck Hennery and Saquon Barkley, and
I think Josh Jacobs was on that call when you
guys had that call. If you were on that call,
what was that discussion?
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Ship?
Speaker 5 (30:30):
Were valuable and were deserving what we need because we
were in the trenches every time ship we vain ship
when they come down to the stretch, you you got
to run the ball.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
So it's like, like, how is we not valuable? Like,
how does we not valuable?
Speaker 5 (30:46):
If we can we the back end of the season,
you have to run the ball when it's snowing, y'all,
this ship gets six feet of snow.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Like we got to run the ball. So it's like,
what more can you? Like, how's we not valuable? Like
at the end of the day, like.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
His is point blank period and you could see like
what we do in the position that we play. We
play a big part of offenses like this.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Period and you know what you are correct in the
NFL owners, I'm not sure when that dynamic shifted to
where the running back position wasn't valued the way it
used to be. Obviously during unks era. You know, during
my era, you know, the running back was a very
important position. And you guys can actually fight. You guys
have a case. You guys can voice your reason for
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wanting and commanding the kind of money you want because
players like you Sa Kwon, Derrick Henry, Christian McCaffrey, and
maybe maybe two others. You know, you're Jonathan Taylor, Gibbs, Yeah,
Jacob Jamier Gibbs, Josh Jacob as well. You guys are
at the forefront of being able to command the kind
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of money you want because of what you guys are
able to do and taking some of the pressure off
your quarterback.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
When the team needs you, guys to grind the clock out.
Who's the one to show up?
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Y'all? Bell, calves, bell, cow, That's what it is. And
most of you can play three downs. You's a goddamn
dual threat, so you you should be getting two goddamn checks.
You can line up outside, you can catch it out
the backfield, you can hand it off to you I mean, listens,
I'm with you, especially when it comes to getting paid,
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because y'all bring a different dynamic than more than just
being a running back, because you do more than just
running goddamn ball.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
And I can say just one thing though, I just
feel like I just feel like like we just do
so much, like just like by going to practice and
doing all the good shit right, and I just feel
like we're deserving of it, like like why not, Like shit,
we work all our life to get paid, like send
me the big bucks, like shit, why not?
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Bro?
Speaker 5 (32:55):
Like I want to go chase the highest highest of
the highest, like and I'm gonna keep doing it like
and I'm gonna stand over what I stand on, like
and I don't want to feel like a cancer at all,
because I never I don't like all that attention and
all that all that like that's not me, like honestly.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Like and I just I'm just standing on business man.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
If you think about it, and what I deserve, go ahead, no,
go ahead, finish jum, that's it what I deserved.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
When if you think about it, James, since McCaffrey got
that sixteen million, nobody's even come close to that number.
And so now you know you're going to uncharted territory.
You look at what Saint Quan got. I think Saint
Kuan got about thirteen and a half. You saw what
Dave Henry got, He got about what eight and a half? Ah.
You see what Josh Jacobs got. I think he was
around twelve eleven and a half twelve? So you know
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when you say you want to be the highest paid
and McCaffrey, is that the number that he's after? You
know you're reaching for the stars. Are you hope you
land on the moon and get something close to that?
Or you want a super or you want to jump
over that?
Speaker 2 (34:00):
And I just want to get what I deserve. Sh
that's all. That's all. I wanted to get what I
asked for, That's all. What role the mess? Your question?
I had a brother that played in the league.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Before I got there, I idolized my brother and I
wanted to be just liking, what role did your brother play?
Speaker 2 (34:18):
And how good?
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Because I'm surprised, I think everybody surprised you didn't follow
his path at Florida State. You went to Georgia. You're
probably glad you did, But what role did your big
brother play? And the guy that we see today that's
turned into one of the premium running backs in.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
The NFL, A big role. Honestly, just like the just
if I asked him a question, is just he always
there for me. It's like he always telling me to
be myself, don't never like stop from what got you
here to like crede myself to then somebody that I'm not.
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So I just feel like that's what he told me,
and I'm gonna keep continuing to being myself and just
always have that older brother in my ear to always
guide me in the right direction. And almost that's my
oldest brother and I'm always listening to him. So I
feel like, here's the great ship. He just said to
stand it. So it's like why not follow it. It's
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like if I if I don't follow it, it's like
I set myself short because I had an older brother
to lead the way and show me the ropes on
how to get there, and if I don't follow it,
I'm a failure.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
I feel like, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
So it's like always just keep working hard and keep
grinding and get what you wanted life ship, That's what
I say.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Yeah, Hey, you know, you know What's funny when I
think about it, I would I would have loved the
opportunity to have a brother, you know, Santana you I'm
trying to think of.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Give me, give me more, said a brother. TJ. Watt.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Yeah, yeah, that man, that has to be like the
greatest feeling to have a brother. And when y'all were
growing up, did y'all compete? Did y'all compete? Now, obviously
I know you wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
I don't know. I'm not sure when he was that central,
When he was that central, you wasn't that though? Obviously? Right?
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Now that that has to be the greatest feeling. Bro.
We still compete to this day. It'd be so crazy.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
We compete in you know still yeah, yeah, you know,
we compete in the game ship, we we whatever.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
We compete because I were brothers.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
And we understand, like we're never going to go against
each other, and we always understand like at the end
of the day, you my oldest brother, and I respect
you to the most up high, and I never do
nothing ever even fail my family, like because I know
like I was got the right way.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Let me ask you this, what are some what what
do you listen to to get you in, that move
to get you locked in in before the game. So
what when you when you when you got to have
the beats on? You got the headphones on? You?
Speaker 5 (36:54):
What you what you buy the way to get you
locked in in? I ain't even gonna lie to you.
I want young okay, young boy's time. And it's like
I gotta get up. I gotta get up for the game.
So it's like before the game, I slow down, listen
to a little R and B. Okay, calm myself down
before the game. Never get too low, never get too high.
So pre game, getting myself together, vibe into a little
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R and B. Calm myself down. But before I get
on the field, it's smellss hot and young boys, it's
time to go.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Hey, it has it ever bothered you?
Speaker 7 (37:30):
Right?
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Obviously being a Florida boy, you know how the weather
is out here. It's it's always hot.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
You know when we get when we get a cold front,
our cold front is bat seventy degree as the weather.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Have you gotten used to the weather out there in Buffalo?
Has it bothered you at all? Oh? No, you you
can get adjusted to it. I feel like that's a mindset. Yeah,
like ship.
Speaker 5 (37:49):
You gotta go out there and feed your family ship.
You gotta go out there and play at the end
of the day, right, Hey, to just shut that, shut up?
Speaker 2 (38:00):
What they paying? I ain't gotta be out there for
two hours in it? I'm good.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Oh yeah, hey, James, thank you man. Congratulations little great season.
You made the Pro Bowl. Hopefully bigger and better things
to come in the future. Hey, stop back by when
you signed that big pay, they stop back by and
drop some of my for us.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
I appreciate that, ladies and gentlemen. Right, I got you
all right, O Joe.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
Earlier to say, Sean's posted a statement from Jeff Schwartz
of Excel Sports Management. The overwhelming sentiment have to confirm
with multiple nationally recognized doctors is that the Lakers should
not have failed Mark Williams on his physical O Joe,
what do you make of this?
Speaker 2 (38:54):
I mean, listen, that's one thing. That that's one thing. Yeah,
my alarm, that's it. They wake me up for a nightcap.
You know, you're.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Doctors most of the time make mistakes. Very seldom, excuse me,
very seldom make mistakes. I think as a player he
should be upset. I'm not sure if he would take
legal action.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
He can't. What do you mean he can't? What are
you gonna do? What are you gonna say? You there's
nothing wrong with me, and you failed me in the
physical and you got his call. He's not a doctor.
They failed him on the physical.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
If there's nothing wrong with him and you fail me,
who's responsible? Oh, Kathy, let me ask you a question.
So Drew Rees should have sued the Dolphins because they
failed him on the physical. Hold on his shoulder was
messed up. On his shoulder was actually messed up for real.
Well maybe maybe to their standard. His knee or his
back is messed up to their standard.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
You gotta realize each team sets the standard in which
they will won't pass it. We took marks loret his
he had, he had terrible needs. But if you want him,
you take it. So if you don't, you fail it.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
How about this, Yes, how about just saying how about
just telling the truth, you know what, we really don't lie,
We really don't want you.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
You really don't fit what we're trying to do. You're
not the type of player with what he actually.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Does fit what they want to do. Luca wanted a
law threat. If you go look at what they got.
Would likely lively look at what they got with Daniel Gaffert.
That's what they want. That's what he wanted. He wanted
a law threat. That's why they were willing to trade
young Dalton connect just in order to get him to
a peas Mukah. So they absolutely wanted it. But here's
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a guy that's twenty two years ago. Come on, now
here's a guy that's sixteen and nine. Why they're trading it?
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Oh? Don't they make you think? What's going on?
Speaker 3 (40:49):
With what's going on when somebody they start training the
other Like, hold on, why do you train him sixteen
or nine?
Speaker 2 (40:54):
He's twenty two? Something made right? See look the Hornets
contested it like there's nothing wrong with him.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
But the NBA like ro they medical team, they medical staff,
thank doctor Ellen Trosh me or Ellen Trosh. They got
some The Curland Joel Clinic is what handled a lot
of what the Lakers do. I know those guys. They
was out went to the Curland job and they did
both EPs. Yeah, so I'm very familiar with them. But
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like like I said, O Joe, your doctor said, hey,
man Shannon, good to go. Another doctor say, man, boy,
that y'all don't even know how you walking with them?
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Something ain't right now.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
As doctors, right, I think everybody had the same protocol.
Everybody had the same procedures. It's not like one doctor
doing something different than the other doctor when they've all
when they've all learned the exact same way, especially when
they come to looking over patients, especially players that play
at the highest level.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
So how one get it wrong and the other one
get it right? Something ain't make no sense.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
Oh Joe, you have to understand each team has to
have their own own set of what they will and
won't accept.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
It's like that, you think, Oh, let mess your question.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
Do you actually think all thirty two team NFL doctors
have the same guidelines on what they will and won't
pass it down on the physical when you go to
the combine. Some team doctors failing, Some teams doctor don't.
Some teams have red flags, some teams don't.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
Did you hear what you just said?
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Yes, if they like you regards to what happens in
those procedures, they will sign you if they want you,
if they know they can use you. Yes, So why
not just say you don't want him because he had
no problem playing where he's playing.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Now that's them. Oh Joe, Okay, all right, you're right,
You're right, You're right.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
You see you make it say like, oh, just oh Joe,
this is a professional setting.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Why don't the doctor just tell you you gonna die?
Just be truthful? Won't they tell you that? O Joe?
Speaker 3 (42:59):
Won't they tell you, hey, you're not gonna be able
to do this, or you're not gonna be able to
do that. Cold Now, I'll tell you the medical is different.
You just can't tell somebody. You try to be as
positive as you possibly can. They don't tell you one
way or another. Let's see, let's see what happens. I
get it, I get it. While his agent that's the Lakers.
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Would you rather be in Charlotte? Would you rather be
in La? Playing with Lebron and Luca are playing with
Miles Bridge and LaMelo Ball? Now would you rather be?
Speaker 2 (43:29):
I mean obviously La? Okay, exactly? You see you see
what you just said? What would you rather be? Yes?
And now that goes back to my question, why would
you think Luca would want to leave? Because Mark Williams
is American. Let me ask you a question.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
Does Luca look at the American play Look at the
European players, Oh Joe, when they retired, what did they do?
Speaker 2 (43:51):
They go back? Yeah, they go up.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
They don't stand. They don't stay. In La, they don't stay.
And wherever they play at think go back. It's not
that it's not the same to them. You looking at
it from our perspective as being Americans, and a lot
of people look at America or they look at La
and they look at you your like, oh, that's where
I want to be. But that's not how they proceed it.
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And so you have to look at it through their
leans and from Luca.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
And it's funny when I think about it and think
about Miami, right, and don't talking about playing I'm not
talking about basketball in the sense Miami is a melting
pot for every ethnicity, even if you are from wherever
it is.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
This is a place you want to be. Why because
you have a community that looks just like those where
that are where you're from. When I think about La,
where where's Luca from? Again, Slovenia.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
I guarantee you there's a Slovenia community community in LA
because there's every ethnicity, restaurants, people, So why wouldn't you
want to be there.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
It's not like you're going to be by yourself and
not like you're going to be in solitude.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Those that and are like minded, just like you, from
your community, from your background or right there.
Speaker 3 (45:07):
Because here's the thing, Oh Joe, you say they got communities,
what does Slovenian have ninety five ninety eight percent obedience?
Speaker 2 (45:17):
They don't have a community. They got a whole country.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
So you know, it's like, look, you got little Haiti,
you got a little cute little Havana, yet here everything.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
Guess what. Guess what Cuba got big Havana. Yeah, you
know what, don't don't nobody want to be there.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
Now that's a bad They definitely don't want to be
under that that resu But uh, look I get what
you're saying. It's like, bro, but it's just like anything.
I mean, some doctors when you go to the combine,
some doctors gonna say, hey, down the road, he might
I feel abnormal laxness in his knee.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
I feel abormal laxness in the shoulder.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
Some guys, like some daughters might say, nah, I don't
see a problem. But here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
You don't see a problem in two years in that
guy's nick you know you out, you know you're gonna be.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
Out of a job, right. Yeah, So that's why they
are on the side of caution.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
Yeah, you know what they air on the side of caution,
depending on who it is. They are on the side
of caution, depending on who the player is.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
Because Ojo, you got to realize the basketball players guarantee.
Speaker 7 (46:29):
Now that you will get hurt. Guess what that two
hundred million you're gonna get all that three d get
all that. That's the chance we have to take. That's
the chance we have to take, depending again, depending on
who the players.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
I mean, look at look at no disrespect, no disrespect,
you know, Kawhi Leonard, Yes, Paul George. I mean there
are a number of players that I can name that
that that got the bag because of what they can
do on the court and unfortunately do the unfortunate.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
Circumstances they got hurt.
Speaker 3 (46:59):
They could do about that just because somebody else is foolish,
That don't mean I gotta be foolish. Now, deep down inside,
what you think they're thinking about giving your Joel and
Bean when he had two years left another three years
at one hundred and ninety three million dollars. So now
he's got five years that two hundred and forty million
dollars coming right, How you think they're thinking about that? O, Joe?
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Can I ask you a question? Yeah? When Joel and
Biid is on the court, Yeah, and he's steeling. Okay,
you know what you get? Right?
Speaker 3 (47:30):
Let me ask you to see what you just said.
Before you said court? What before letter word did you use?
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Win? Right? Win?
Speaker 3 (47:45):
He's played four hundred and twelve games, he's missed four
hundred and five.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Is there another replacement for Joel Andbiid? Is there another
Joeling bead out here? Hell?
Speaker 3 (47:57):
I can't get Joel and Bead out there. I don't
need a repair, just need him. I don't need a replacement.
I beat his ass out of the core. You're talking
about the replacement again. This is this is this is
what I'm talking about. This is what I'm talking about too.
Now we talking about a special player. Yes, that ain't
just you ain't just picking them off off the trees
like that.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
That you will take the chance and pay him what
he's getting paid despite the amount of games he missed.
Why because he's special? Yes, And you understand what you
get when he is on the court. So you know
what we gonna pay because we know we get when
he is in the court, despite the injuries he may have. Yeah,
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and that's the difference in young Bull that's in Charlotte,
that who had an opportunity to play.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
If he was if he was anything like a Joel Ebid,
he'd be with the Lakers. They would have definitely passed
him on that test.
Speaker 3 (48:48):
But if you think about it, Oh, Joe Bill, they
gonna be in a big Now, good luck trying to
get off Paul George. He just signed four years that
two hundred and whatever million dollars. Jordan be got two
hundred and forty and sixty coming.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
Now, what's the likelihood of these as these guys getting older,
they get healthier.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
It's tough. It's tough now, yeah, yeah, and listen, as
they get older, what you can do.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
I could be wrong, but don't have them on the
ball as much, allowing them to if I mean, as
a player, I think you have to evolve where you
don't need to touch the ball as much, where you
you're not putting as much stress and work on yourself.
I'm sure, I'm sure there's a way that you can
make it happen. You're not the main focal point. Well,
(49:41):
Paul George isn't the main focal point. He was supposed
to be that third wheels. He was supposed to be
Joeling Bee, ty Reese Max and Paul George. That's what
it was supposed to be.
Speaker 3 (49:49):
But it looks like now it's ty Reeves MAXI team
and it's Tyree's Maxy, Joel Enbiid and Paul George. But
Paul George has been nicked from the jump. Yeah, Joel
Embiid with the problem that I got with embid. If
you think about it, O Joe, he was he got
hurt at the end of the season. He was nick
(50:09):
during the postseason. You would have thought that, you know what,
I'm gonna take my you know what, guys, I know,
I promise you guys that I was gonna come to
the Olympics, but I gotta get healthy because the goat
if I Philly, I wouldn't let him play. No hell now,
gold medal versus me trying to win a ring, gold medal,
(50:30):
ring Olympics.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
Don't pay no money.
Speaker 3 (50:32):
I appreciate and I know Jordan Bead is extremely happy
he immigrated from Cameroon. Hey, everything is so much of
what he's been given from America, and he should he's
grateful and he's thankful than he should be. But at
the end of the day, Ojo, the Olympics don't put
five hundred million in your pocket.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
The Philadephia seventy six is half. I got you, I
got you, and so that's that's just my thinking.
Speaker 3 (50:55):
Me bro Hey, I would love to, you know, be
on that last ride because what we had, the bird
magic Jordan, you had steph U Durant and Braun. That
was to be a part of that and to win
the goal. And I watched that next blitch, that Netflix special.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
It was unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (51:13):
Following the Olympic team and guys tried to and and
they got access to you hear the Canadian team and
you see ut Liftomania, uh, the Serbian team with Yok
and Bondanovitch and you got the Americans.
Speaker 2 (51:28):
But no, no, no, bro you you you you you compromised.
Speaker 3 (51:33):
The sixth of season, oh Joe, because he hasn't been healthy,
not one day since the season kicked off.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
And Joel and Be been healthy. Dang.
Speaker 3 (51:46):
Yeah, And it's it's it's uh, you know, I feel
bad for the seventy six ers. I really do, because
they're doing everything they possibly can. Look, they got Ben
Simmons that didn't work out. I mean whatever, whatever, what
whatever whatever they had James Harden. And James Harden is
like he's the hardening. You know, he wanted to be there,
(52:07):
but he wanted his money. He took a pay cut,
and that's what.
Speaker 2 (52:10):
That's what. That's the thing on Joe. Stop taking pay cuts.
Speaker 3 (52:13):
Stop giving these teams discounts because they get you over
the bowl and then they're like, well, we're not gonna
pay you Noah. James Harden like, bo, wait a minute, bro,
I meet that Brad. Yeah, hopefully, uh we'll see
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The biggest news of the day, Oh Joe.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
The Spurs have announced their shutting down Victor wimbin ya
me Victor wen beyam excuse me down for the remainder
of the season with a deep vein thrombosis. The San
Antonio Express News reported that the Spurs are optimistic that
Wimby will be ready for next season and that they're
not as serious as the issue with Chris Bosh dealt with.
(06:21):
If this is an isolated incident, the Spurs believe that
it will be closer to what brandon Ingram dealt with
six years ago, remember o Cho.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
In twenty nineteen, Ingram was diagnosed with a deep.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Trombosis in his right arm that ended his twenty eighteen
nineteen season, but he went on to win twenty nineteen
twenty twenty Most Improved Player. He has not dealt with
clotting issues since. Also Ojo. Since he's being shut down,
he's going to be ineligible for winning Defensive Player of
the Year because he won't meet the mandatory minimum of.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
At least sixty five games, right, would you?
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I have a question on yes, how are they able
to diagnose how much the severity of the of the
issue is.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
And they're saying it's not compared to what what Chris has.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
They say their hope, they hope it's more in line
to what Brandon Ingram dealt with and not with Chris Bosch.
Remember Chris Bosch tried to play again and it reoccurred.
Because normally, when you have blood cloths, oh Joe, you
have to take blood thinners. That's something that you stay
on for the remainder of your life. So there's a
problem because the cut, because the clots you take blood thinners,
(07:37):
you don't get clotting. So what does that mean. You
get a knit, you get a cut, you could bleed out.
So there's always that, there's always that scare. Also probably
I think you have a greater chance of a heart
attack or something of that nature. My grandmother was on
blood thinners right because she dealt with clotting and she
ended up she ended up ended up having a leg
(07:59):
app you just above the knee. And but like I said, oh, Joe,
she was on blood thinterers for the rest of her life.
And that's normally if I'm not mistaken. Serena Williams dealt
with blood clots also, So it also depends on the
severity where they are start getting me in your lungs
and boy, whooh, you got something to deal with any
place of a blood cud O, Joe, could be it
(08:21):
could be a very dangerous situation. But they're saying their hope.
It's more in lien with what Brandon Ingram dealt with.
He missed the remainder of the season. He was able
to come back when most improved, had had an issue
with it since not like Chris Bosh what eventually led
to his early retirement.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Now now one of the things I do want to
ask you, being that obviously I'm not a health expert.
I don't I don't really know the background when it
comes to things like this, is this something that's hereditary
that does it just happen that regardless of age?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Joe he twenty one? I know that that's Chris was
probably what thirty? Yeah? Thirty? Yeah, like my grandmother was
in we within the sixties. What you deal with us?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
So what deciphers whether it happens regardless of age, is
it is? What is a diet nutrie? I mean when
you think about somebody when bum Jan when Yama, you
think he eats healthy?
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
He always has?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Could I I saw something earlier on Twitter today, Uh,
someone you know be slick at the mouth and say,
I guarantee you he probably he probably you know, he
got the vaccine. I'm not saying I'm not a conspiracy theorist.
I'm not sure if that has any type of effect,
you know, on whether you get blood clots or not.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I've listen, You've heard stories that it does.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
It's called it's caused people to have blood clots that
didn't have before have to get in the vaccine. Know
you think it's something that's probably in the family DNA.
Other people have probably had clots that were you know,
part of the family and it just it trickles down
to to everyone else.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Without without me knowing anything. Oho, it's really hard to say.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Uh, you know. It says the blood clarks are solid
masses deft on within the blood stream when platelets and
fibrin a protein stick together, which called the clot. You
need some clotting because hey, you get cut, you want
your blood to clot. You start completing. Sometimes you take
blood thinner if thans your blood. There's nothing that all
clott it. Okay, boom, that's another issue you could have.
(10:18):
Obviously you get blood clots, you have a heart attack,
you have strokes. It leads to a number of other
underlining conditions. So o Joe, without really knowing, I mean,
that would be something that you'd have to have a
health experts to be able to somewhat in cardiothoracic medicine
or something like that, to be able to give you
a more of a detail to look, what do they
(10:39):
think led to it? Is this something that is a
hereditary Oh Joe, I really couldn't tell you. I mean
what seemingly is a twenty one year old, healthier male. Yes, sir,
and boom. Like I said, Chris Bosh was probably thirty
when he got it. My grandmother was in our late
sixteen early seventies he got it. So I don't really
(11:02):
know the rhyme or reason. Serena Williams got it. She
was in her twentieth and I think if I'm not mistaken,
chat y'all can correct it from wrong. I think Serena
might have had it in a in a lungs, had
one of a lung or something. Maybe it was a
calf or I'm not sure. But people get him in
a variety of Sometimes they get him and they buy
sometime they get him in their arm, they get him
(11:23):
in their lungs. I really don't know, oh, y'all. It's
really it's really really hard to understand some things are hereditary.
I'm not necessarily certain that blood clarks are something that
art a hereditary.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Right man. That's tough.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
That's tough for him, that's tough for the Spurs, that's
tough for the fans obviously in San Antonio. Hopefully, I'm
hoping for a speedy recovery for him and he's able
to come back strong next year and then continue to
dominating the way he had so far since he's entered
the league. A phenomenal talent, very good and prayers prayers
(11:58):
to him and his family as well.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Yeah, I think Serena because I think it happened at Wimbledon.
I think she stepped on a glass, a piece of
glass or something. She was celebrating a victory. I think
I could, like I said, this has probably been twenty
years ago, so I'm just going off the top of
my head and made even long. I think it was
like twenty something years ago, and she ended up getting
a blood clot if I'm not mistaken in her lungs,
(12:22):
I think that's what happened, Oh, Joe, Like I said, yes,
as she saying yes, that's what's happened.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I think she stepped on.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
A piece of glass, ended up getting a cut, ending
up developing a blood clot in a young lung, which
was very very, very very serious. So hopefully, like you said, oh,
your thoughts and prayers go out to a speedy recovery
for Wemby twenty one years old. Such a bright, bright
future in front of him, so hopefully this is only
(12:51):
a temporary setback for a major comeback. But you really do,
like I said, they're hoping. One thing you didn't know,
I can assure you. When Ris Box developed his no
one thought that this was going to force his early retirement.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
You just never know.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
And then brandon Ingram get it. And so I think
for me a lot of times, you know, you kind
of expect you pray for the best. You expect the worst,
but you pray for the best, the best, because the
one thing you are bet it's self, you know, Oh Joe,
You know, doctors always try to give you the worst
case scenario because what they don't want to give you
is a false cyst of security. Oh this is nothing,
And then they come back the day later it's like, well,
(13:25):
I'm sorry, mister Sharp and mister Johnson, it's a lot
more severe. So they try to always prepare you for
the worst, but say, hey, pray and expect the best,
and so it's always easier to get oh thank you,
as opposed to like, who oh man, Lord have mercy
doctor that was true? Oh yeah, so you know what
I'm saying. So uh, like I said, hopefully weinby uh
(13:48):
is because I mean he can do it all. You
talking about the guy that's probably what seventh seven four
and a half seven five with shoes on.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Uh, he can shoot the three mid range. He defend
at an elite, elite level.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
He's looked like he was projected to be one of
the all time great players and historically great defensive players,
with his prowess, blocking shots, challenging shots on the perimeter,
obviously around the riming is everything is and people you've
seen people pull the ball out, they get fast breaking,
he's chasing. They're like, nah, I got a better chance
of Longchia three than laying this ball up and having
(14:21):
him pinning against the glass. But hopefully weinby this is
like I said, something that's very very minor. It's not miny,
but I'm saying hopefully it's something that he can bounce
back from relatively quick. I think they said they're hoping
that if everything goes according to playing, they'll be able
that he'll be able to resume and be able to
come back next season. So so March, April, May, June, July,
(14:44):
all of September, tib but I think they start to
see them so about eight months, so they'll see how
it goes and move forward from there. But like you said,
oh Joe, we really don't know. I mean this because
when I saw it, the Spurs are shutting Winby down.
I'm like, damn, God just plays the All Star Game
and y'all shut him down. And you know, the Spurs, ojo,
they normally air on the side of caution. Yes, sir,
(15:05):
they started. It was them that started the load management
with Duncan and Parker and Gernobili and then even with
Kawhi as a young young player, he got a load management.
So they're normally they normally are on the side of concient.
But I was like, with damn, they've been overly cautious
with this situation. And I read that because I just
(15:28):
read the headline Spurs wouldn't be down.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
So I'm like, well, damn. And then once I read it, Okay,
you understood why, yes, sir?
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Yeah, so uh that's uh, that's the Spurs are shutting
Victim wimber Yama down because the blood clots uh and
his right shoulder. They said, hopefully he'll be ready, uh
the word they use ojo optimistic. Now he'll be ready
for next season and this is not as serious as
(15:58):
the issue that Chris Botch dealt with. Hopefully it's more
in line to what Brandon Ingram dealt with. He missed
the season, was able to come back and most improved
twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, got a contract, got another contract,
just got it. Recently signed a two three year deal
with the Toronto Raptors. So hopefully we're praying for you
(16:19):
Wenby and your family. So hopefully this is nothing that
you that you can't overcome, and we look forward to
seeing you in the future. So Boston prayers the victim, women,
Yama and his family. Friends of love once.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Oh Joe.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Brian Windhorse says La is under immense pressure to get
Luca resigned.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
He never said I want to be a Laker.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
There are dozens of players over the years who have
made it crystal clear they want to be Lakers.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Luca never said that.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
This hit them out of nowhere, Oh Jo, can you
see the Lakers not resigning Luca in.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
L A absolutely not Listen, they need a superstar. They
need Lebron only have what maybe one maybe two years left.
It has to be a superstar to put to put
butts in those seats. Correct, And who is that that
is Luca, don't it. That is exactly what he's gonna
do at some point. Once he gets gets in shape,
once he gets in rhythm, once he gets his legs
(17:20):
and feet up underneath him, we're gonna get to see
the same Luca that we saw in Dallas averaging twenty
nine average and thirty doing what he doing what he
normally does every night. And he is the future for
the LA Lakers. And absolutely at some point they're gonna
start building around him as the star. Think they're gonna
have to pay. But when do they pay him? When
(17:41):
does that happen?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Well?
Speaker 3 (17:42):
I was reading the other day, Oh Joe, they said
that Luca can side a two year deal. So what
is this year eight for Luca? Ask you? This year
eight for Luca? He signed a two year deal that
gets into year ting in. Now he be in like
and he makes the old NBA team first team one
of those two years in the contract. Now he is
(18:03):
eligible for a super Max and now he can get
that four hundred million dollar contract.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (18:07):
How is that how it goes? Ash? Well, let me
see here is it your seven? So he.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Okay, so signs a two year extension O Joe, this
is your seven Next year, you signed a two year extension,
so three years he can sign, that'll be ten years.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Get him to ten and now he is eligible for
a super max.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
This is very This is very important because here's the thing,
Oh Joe.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Remember now, you traded the guy that you really thought
was gonna be the secession plan to Lebron a D.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
You bring in a guy that's five years younger, and.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Say, now, instead of having made four or five years
with a D, we could possibly have ten to twelve
years with Luca.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
But Luca, now you've already traded a D. You lose Luca?
Now what wait?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
I don't I don't think you're gonna lose him. You
know you're not gonna lose him. Obviously.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
He knows he's gonna be the centerpiece and be the
focus for the future of the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
There's a lot of other teams he is going to
be the centerpiece. Huh, there are a lot of other
teams he can go and be the centerpiece.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
You know he's not leaving la Come on, now, you
know better than that.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Listen his history. Shaq was gonna leave Orlando. They didn't
think Lebron was gonna leave Cleveland. Did you think Lebron
was gonna leave Miami? Did you think Lebron was gonna
leave Cleveland the second time?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Well? Yeah, he.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
He promised him something. He promised him something, He gave
him what he wanted and then he went on by
the business. Did you think Lebron James was gonna leave
in Cleveland? Remember he's he was born and I with
North of Cleveland, an actorate he left. Nobody saw it coming. Nobody.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
I'm trying to think.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
You don't you know, you don't just up and leave
a franchise like that, especially not a not an organization
like the Los Angeles Lakers. Not when you're you're the
main focal piece of everything. You are going to excuse me,
you are going to be the face of the Lakers.
You understand that. He understand that they traded for you
for a reason.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Oh Joe, he knew.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
He wasn't Wiled, he wasn't Kareem, he wasn't shocked, He
wasn't Bob McAdoo, he wasn't Lebron. He didn't request to
go there, he didn't make it. That's what that's my
destination of choice.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Hold on, uh, come on. Now, let's let's let's let's
let's be sensible. Right. Yes, you've already, you've already. You're
in Dallas. You're in a great place. They shocked you
with a trade.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Yes you go to you bet you go to a
historic franchise, a winning franchise like the La Lakers with
the Kobe Bryants have played, with the Kareem abdu Jabbars
have played.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Where they're going to worship you, where they're the unique.
There has to be a star. Yeah you are. You
are that star, and you think the time comes he'd
rather go somewhere else? Where else is there to go?
Where else will?
Speaker 3 (21:00):
So let me ask your question. If Luca went somewhere else,
he wouldn't be the star, he wouldn't be the.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
To be the star.
Speaker 7 (21:06):
But what better place is it than l A Ain't
nothing better than that? No disrespect to other places though
for you, that's not for him. Does Lucas strike you
as a guy that's in all that kind of stuff?
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Remember that? But you were playing. Players are different. You
look at Nicola Yokics, He's like, when can I go home?
We got the parade? Man, I can't go back and
get to my porches. They don't see see you're looking
at it through the lens of an American playing for
the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
You know, you don't, You don't.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
You don't think Luca values the franchise and what and
what it brings, what it brings to him, the brand
of playing for the other Lakers, the brand of playing
for the New York the New York Yankees, or the
brand for playing for the LA Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
You don't think he understands that.
Speaker 8 (21:51):
And and Miguel Soda left the Yankees and went to
and you and went to the Mets. That's right around
the corner that that ain't the Yankees. That's out the Yankees.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
So look, I'm not saying that he is, but I'm
not saying it's not a foregone conclusion that he will resign.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
And I agree that it's not a foregone conclusion that
he's going to sign. But I think it's very incumbent
upon the Lakers that they're hoping and praying, and I'm
sure they've promised him the heavens and the earth because
if they lose him, it's over. Because remember, they ain't
got no draft picks. They just traded the thirty one
and I think they got what the twenty seven and
the two they just traded what they traded thirty first
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or twenty ninth. But I only look they got one one,
you know, top a lot of unprotect the pick.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah, listen, listen, I'm you'd have been around the game
a very long time, very long time, and you know
not Miguel so wan so though one so, even though,
even though even if he European players don't have that
same feel for playing for historic franchises like the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
You know, good and well, he ain't going nowhere? Good, well,
he ain't going no. Well, we'll come back to this.
Right now.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
We're being joined by two time Pro Bowl running back
James Cook. James, thank you for joining us, bro, jac
what's up?
Speaker 1 (23:15):
What?
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Why? Let me hold something?
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Man?
Speaker 2 (23:19):
You got it, Bady listen put it on the floor.
Well I'm gonna pick it up. Man, James.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Let's talk about this great season that you had over
a thousand yards. I think what fifteen rush touchdowns during
the season had an outstanding Like we just dropped in bed.
Withers guy, he's on his cell phone. He was kind
enough to join us. He was not gonna be in
a situation where he could get land.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
But I'm bad. I appreciate that, bro, Yeah, I was.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
As I was saying, great season running the football, revamped
offense as far as running the football offensive coordinator for
first time full time, he blended took over last a
year ago. In the halfway through the season, when you
look at what you what you were able to do
in particular, and what this team was able to do
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considering all the pieces that you lost. You lost your
two top receivers Matt Mullonel was injured a lot of
the season, a lot of your dbs, both of your
safeties and White gone. Nobody really expected you guys to
be in this situation. Did you really think that you
guys had an opportunity chance to end up being where
you were in the AFC Championship game and what three
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points away from actually winning that game.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Without a doubt. I mean when you got on seven
back there, it's always a chance. Like That's what I say, Like,
I just feel like he wanted the best and he
gonna put us in the best situation always win.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
So he back there and we back there and we
connecting is something great.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Listen, Everybody always talks about Josh Allen. They always talked
about him losing you know, some of this of losing
digs and then not having a superior weapons on the outside.
But what people don't talk about enough of is what
you've been able to do. You take some of the
pressure off of h Josh Allen. Listen, you stepped into
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a bigger role in the Bills offense. You know, how
have you embraced being a centerpiece in that system. I
just can't to work every day forever, real, Like that's
all I can ever do. Like I can control what
I can control that end of the day. But when
you don't come in there and work, and you don't
come there and be that guy and that be that
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neither in the locker room, that you would never be nothing.
So that's what I tried to come and do, and
I feel like it's been working. I'm a team guy.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
I'm always coming there and work and when they come
on Sundays, I gotta gotta.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Kill you, Jane. When I look at you, guys, I mean,
you get so close every year.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
You had the best record in the AFC two years
ago and then you end up losing at UH to
Baltimore and then this year you had an unbelievable season
and Elite lose to Kansas City in the championship game.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
What is the next step?
Speaker 3 (26:09):
What do you guys need to do in order to
get over that hump, which is Patrick Mahoons.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
In the AFC. You got to be aggressive, Like I
just feel like we gotta be aggressive.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
And with a guy like one five back there, you
gotta you gotta just gotta beat them, like Laurls story,
like I can't say nothing, she just gotta beat them.
So when you come in games like that and you know,
when of your back against the wall, then you gotta win.
And you got your guys next to you, you gotta
go win. Ship you know, you playing one five.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
You know, you know, you know how it's gonna be.
You know it's gonna be ebbs and flows of the game.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
So you gotta just control what you can control and
go out there and play football at the end of
the day.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
So you would you would like to be more aggressive
early on.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
You feel like you got when you guys fell behind,
then you became aggressive.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
You'd like to see that from the word jump oh
off the rip, Yeah, you know, and it never happened.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
It never happens that way for some reason, especially when
you get to playoff games with games of extreme importance.
Most of the time, I think sometimes, especially from a
coaching standpoint, as an officer coordinator, you say you overthink,
you overthink the game instead of just playing free. You
know you you already have what you've already done throughout
the entirety of the season because you're playing the Kansas
City Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
There's no need to press.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Just continue to do what you've always done, and you
use your bell Kyle, you for instance, in seventeen and
just rock out. And I think they lost sight of that,
or he the officer coardy, had lost sight of that
once you got to that game, and not allowing himself
to just just play freely, call the plays freely, because
you got all you need right there in hand, and
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I think for one y'all are going to consistently be back.
You know, obviously you're in AFC, Obviously I'm a Bengal fan,
but understanding what you guys have and I'm going to
talk about you from an individual standpoint and how much
your game has evolved from a rookie to now and
where you are right now, what do you think you
need to work on? As good as you've gotten from
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your rookie season to this point, what do you think
you need to work on to continually evolve at the
running back position.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I just feel like I can.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
I just got to keep getting better and you know,
like be able to be on fair every dawn like
and key situations like I feel like I could do it.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Ship just look at this point what else more I
could do?
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Like?
Speaker 2 (28:30):
So, I just feel like, man, just keep me on
the feeling and great games will happen. Hey, also, hold on,
I got I got one more.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
I like.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
I like this here, I like this.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
There are a lot of good running backs in the league,
right you know, Henry's, the McCaffrey's, even even though it
was injured for most of the season. If there was
one thing you could take from one of the running
backs in the league that you look up to and
and and you're a fan of, if there was one
thing from their game you can add to.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Yours, what what would it be?
Speaker 5 (29:01):
Go with Christian McCaffrey, just like just all the explosiveness
that he got in his game and what he can
do with the ball and so many positions that he
can be in and you don't even know when he
getting the ball and he just get the.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Ball and just cod this bitch like yeah, like all that.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Like so just putting that traits in my game and
be able to learn from from what he doing in
my Like I looked up to my brother, so it's
like whatever he could, whatever I learned from him, I
put that in my game. And yeah, just trying to
just go out there and play football.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
At the end of the day. Shit, we've been doing it.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Yes, sir, there are reports to James and you can
confirm with it now is that you want to be
the highest paid running back in the NFL and men like,
hold on, wait a minute, now, I don't know if
he's earned that or he's deserving of that. What do
you say to the people that says, man James could
don't deserve to be the high.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Pinted running back. I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
At the end of the day, I feel like we're
just going to get his running backs and I feel
like we deserve to get paid. And because when they
come down to the back end of the season, we
we we play a big part of this ship.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Like so.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
However, they want to take it. Then I'm staying with
the running back ship. We deserve it ship.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Now if I'm not mistaken, you could correct me if
I'm wrong again. Now it's reported that there were a
phone call between a lot of the top running backs,
yourself and McCaffrey and Deck Hennery and Saquon Barkley, and
I think Josh Jacobs was on that call when you
guys had that call. If you were on that call,
what was that discussion?
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Ship?
Speaker 5 (30:30):
Were valuable and were deserving what we need because we
were in the trenches every time ship we vain ship
when they come down to the stretch, you you got
to run the ball.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
So it's like, like, how is we not valuable? Like,
how does we not valuable?
Speaker 5 (30:46):
If we can we the back end of the season,
you have to run the ball when it's snowing, y'all,
this ship gets six feet of snow.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Like we got to run the ball. So it's like,
what more can you? Like, how's we not valuable? Like
at the end of the day, like.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
His is point blank period and you could see like
what we do in the position that we play. We
play a big part of offenses like this.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Period and you know what you are correct in the
NFL owners, I'm not sure when that dynamic shifted to
where the running back position wasn't valued the way it
used to be. Obviously during unks era. You know, during
my era, you know, the running back was a very
important position. And you guys can actually fight. You guys
have a case. You guys can voice your reason for
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wanting and commanding the kind of money you want because
players like you Sa Kwon, Derrick Henry, Christian McCaffrey, and
maybe maybe two others. You know, you're Jonathan Taylor, Gibbs, Yeah,
Jacob Jamier Gibbs, Josh Jacob as well. You guys are
at the forefront of being able to command the kind
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of money you want because of what you guys are
able to do and taking some of the pressure off
your quarterback.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
When the team needs you, guys to grind the clock out.
Who's the one to show up?
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Y'all? Bell, calves, bell, cow, That's what it is. And
most of you can play three downs. You's a goddamn
dual threat, so you you should be getting two goddamn checks.
You can line up outside, you can catch it out
the backfield, you can hand it off to you I mean, listens,
I'm with you, especially when it comes to getting paid,
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because y'all bring a different dynamic than more than just
being a running back, because you do more than just
running goddamn ball.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
And I can say just one thing though, I just
feel like I just feel like like we just do
so much, like just like by going to practice and
doing all the good shit right, and I just feel
like we're deserving of it, like like why not, Like shit,
we work all our life to get paid, like send
me the big bucks, like shit, why not?
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Bro?
Speaker 5 (32:55):
Like I want to go chase the highest highest of
the highest, like and I'm gonna keep doing it like
and I'm gonna stand over what I stand on, like
and I don't want to feel like a cancer at all,
because I never I don't like all that attention and
all that all that like that's not me, like honestly.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Like and I just I'm just standing on business man.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
If you think about it, and what I deserve, go ahead, no,
go ahead, finish jum, that's it what I deserved.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
When if you think about it, James, since McCaffrey got
that sixteen million, nobody's even come close to that number.
And so now you know you're going to uncharted territory.
You look at what Saint Quan got. I think Saint
Kuan got about thirteen and a half. You saw what
Dave Henry got, He got about what eight and a half? Ah.
You see what Josh Jacobs got. I think he was
around twelve eleven and a half twelve? So you know
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when you say you want to be the highest paid
and McCaffrey, is that the number that he's after? You
know you're reaching for the stars. Are you hope you
land on the moon and get something close to that?
Or you want a super or you want to jump
over that?
Speaker 2 (34:00):
And I just want to get what I deserve. Sh
that's all. That's all. I wanted to get what I
asked for, That's all. What role the mess? Your question?
I had a brother that played in the league.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Before I got there, I idolized my brother and I
wanted to be just liking, what role did your brother play?
Speaker 2 (34:18):
And how good?
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Because I'm surprised, I think everybody surprised you didn't follow
his path at Florida State. You went to Georgia. You're
probably glad you did, But what role did your big
brother play? And the guy that we see today that's
turned into one of the premium running backs in.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
The NFL, A big role. Honestly, just like the just
if I asked him a question, is just he always
there for me. It's like he always telling me to
be myself, don't never like stop from what got you
here to like crede myself to then somebody that I'm not.
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So I just feel like that's what he told me,
and I'm gonna keep continuing to being myself and just
always have that older brother in my ear to always
guide me in the right direction. And almost that's my
oldest brother and I'm always listening to him. So I
feel like, here's the great ship. He just said to
stand it. So it's like why not follow it. It's
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like if I if I don't follow it, it's like
I set myself short because I had an older brother
to lead the way and show me the ropes on
how to get there, and if I don't follow it,
I'm a failure.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
I feel like, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
So it's like always just keep working hard and keep
grinding and get what you wanted life ship, That's what
I say.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Yeah, Hey, you know, you know What's funny when I
think about it, I would I would have loved the
opportunity to have a brother, you know, Santana you I'm
trying to think of.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Give me, give me more, said a brother. TJ. Watt.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Yeah, yeah, that man, that has to be like the
greatest feeling to have a brother. And when y'all were
growing up, did y'all compete? Did y'all compete? Now, obviously
I know you wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
I don't know. I'm not sure when he was that central,
When he was that central, you wasn't that though? Obviously? Right?
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Now that that has to be the greatest feeling. Bro.
We still compete to this day. It'd be so crazy.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
We compete in you know still yeah, yeah, you know,
we compete in the game ship, we we whatever.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
We compete because I were brothers.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
And we understand, like we're never going to go against
each other, and we always understand like at the end
of the day, you my oldest brother, and I respect
you to the most up high, and I never do
nothing ever even fail my family, like because I know
like I was got the right way.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Let me ask you this, what are some what what
do you listen to to get you in, that move
to get you locked in in before the game. So
what when you when you when you got to have
the beats on? You got the headphones on? You?
Speaker 5 (36:54):
What you what you buy the way to get you
locked in in? I ain't even gonna lie to you.
I want young okay, young boy's time. And it's like
I gotta get up. I gotta get up for the game.
So it's like before the game, I slow down, listen
to a little R and B. Okay, calm myself down
before the game. Never get too low, never get too high.
So pre game, getting myself together, vibe into a little
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R and B. Calm myself down. But before I get
on the field, it's smellss hot and young boys, it's
time to go.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Hey, it has it ever bothered you?
Speaker 7 (37:30):
Right?
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Obviously being a Florida boy, you know how the weather
is out here. It's it's always hot.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
You know when we get when we get a cold front,
our cold front is bat seventy degree as the weather.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Have you gotten used to the weather out there in Buffalo?
Has it bothered you at all? Oh? No, you you
can get adjusted to it. I feel like that's a mindset. Yeah,
like ship.
Speaker 5 (37:49):
You gotta go out there and feed your family ship.
You gotta go out there and play at the end
of the day, right, Hey, to just shut that, shut up?
Speaker 2 (38:00):
What they paying? I ain't gotta be out there for
two hours in it? I'm good.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Oh yeah, hey, James, thank you man. Congratulations little great season.
You made the Pro Bowl. Hopefully bigger and better things
to come in the future. Hey, stop back by when
you signed that big pay, they stop back by and
drop some of my for us.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
I appreciate that, ladies and gentlemen. Right, I got you
all right, O Joe.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
Earlier to say, Sean's posted a statement from Jeff Schwartz
of Excel Sports Management. The overwhelming sentiment have to confirm
with multiple nationally recognized doctors is that the Lakers should
not have failed Mark Williams on his physical O Joe,
what do you make of this?
Speaker 2 (38:54):
I mean, listen, that's one thing. That that's one thing. Yeah,
my alarm, that's it. They wake me up for a nightcap.
You know, you're.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Doctors most of the time make mistakes. Very seldom, excuse me,
very seldom make mistakes. I think as a player he
should be upset. I'm not sure if he would take
legal action.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
He can't. What do you mean he can't? What are
you gonna do? What are you gonna say? You there's
nothing wrong with me, and you failed me in the
physical and you got his call. He's not a doctor.
They failed him on the physical.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
If there's nothing wrong with him and you fail me,
who's responsible? Oh, Kathy, let me ask you a question.
So Drew Rees should have sued the Dolphins because they
failed him on the physical. Hold on his shoulder was
messed up. On his shoulder was actually messed up for real.
Well maybe maybe to their standard. His knee or his
back is messed up to their standard.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
You gotta realize each team sets the standard in which
they will won't pass it. We took marks loret his
he had, he had terrible needs. But if you want him,
you take it. So if you don't, you fail it.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
How about this, Yes, how about just saying how about
just telling the truth, you know what, we really don't lie,
We really don't want you.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
You really don't fit what we're trying to do. You're
not the type of player with what he actually.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Does fit what they want to do. Luca wanted a
law threat. If you go look at what they got.
Would likely lively look at what they got with Daniel Gaffert.
That's what they want. That's what he wanted. He wanted
a law threat. That's why they were willing to trade
young Dalton connect just in order to get him to
a peas Mukah. So they absolutely wanted it. But here's
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a guy that's twenty two years ago. Come on, now
here's a guy that's sixteen and nine. Why they're trading it?
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Oh? Don't they make you think? What's going on?
Speaker 3 (40:49):
With what's going on when somebody they start training the
other Like, hold on, why do you train him sixteen
or nine?
Speaker 2 (40:54):
He's twenty two? Something made right? See look the Hornets
contested it like there's nothing wrong with him.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
But the NBA like ro they medical team, they medical staff,
thank doctor Ellen Trosh me or Ellen Trosh. They got
some The Curland Joel Clinic is what handled a lot
of what the Lakers do. I know those guys. They
was out went to the Curland job and they did
both EPs. Yeah, so I'm very familiar with them. But
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like like I said, O Joe, your doctor said, hey,
man Shannon, good to go. Another doctor say, man, boy,
that y'all don't even know how you walking with them?
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Something ain't right now.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
As doctors, right, I think everybody had the same protocol.
Everybody had the same procedures. It's not like one doctor
doing something different than the other doctor when they've all
when they've all learned the exact same way, especially when
they come to looking over patients, especially players that play
at the highest level.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
So how one get it wrong and the other one
get it right? Something ain't make no sense.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
Oh Joe, you have to understand each team has to
have their own own set of what they will and
won't accept.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
It's like that, you think, Oh, let mess your question.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
Do you actually think all thirty two team NFL doctors
have the same guidelines on what they will and won't
pass it down on the physical when you go to
the combine. Some team doctors failing, Some teams doctor don't.
Some teams have red flags, some teams don't.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
Did you hear what you just said?
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Yes, if they like you regards to what happens in
those procedures, they will sign you if they want you,
if they know they can use you. Yes, So why
not just say you don't want him because he had
no problem playing where he's playing.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Now that's them. Oh Joe, Okay, all right, you're right,
You're right, You're right.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
You see you make it say like, oh, just oh Joe,
this is a professional setting.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Why don't the doctor just tell you you gonna die?
Just be truthful? Won't they tell you that? O Joe?
Speaker 3 (42:59):
Won't they tell you, hey, you're not gonna be able
to do this, or you're not gonna be able to
do that. Cold Now, I'll tell you the medical is different.
You just can't tell somebody. You try to be as
positive as you possibly can. They don't tell you one
way or another. Let's see, let's see what happens. I
get it, I get it. While his agent that's the Lakers.
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Would you rather be in Charlotte? Would you rather be
in La? Playing with Lebron and Luca are playing with
Miles Bridge and LaMelo Ball? Now would you rather be?
Speaker 2 (43:29):
I mean obviously La? Okay, exactly? You see you see
what you just said? What would you rather be? Yes?
And now that goes back to my question, why would
you think Luca would want to leave? Because Mark Williams
is American. Let me ask you a question.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
Does Luca look at the American play Look at the
European players, Oh Joe, when they retired, what did they do?
Speaker 2 (43:51):
They go back? Yeah, they go up.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
They don't stand. They don't stay. In La, they don't stay.
And wherever they play at think go back. It's not
that it's not the same to them. You looking at
it from our perspective as being Americans, and a lot
of people look at America or they look at La
and they look at you your like, oh, that's where
I want to be. But that's not how they proceed it.
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And so you have to look at it through their
leans and from Luca.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
And it's funny when I think about it and think
about Miami, right, and don't talking about playing I'm not
talking about basketball in the sense Miami is a melting
pot for every ethnicity, even if you are from wherever
it is.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
This is a place you want to be. Why because
you have a community that looks just like those where
that are where you're from. When I think about La,
where where's Luca from? Again, Slovenia.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
I guarantee you there's a Slovenia community community in LA
because there's every ethnicity, restaurants, people, So why wouldn't you
want to be there.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
It's not like you're going to be by yourself and
not like you're going to be in solitude.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Those that and are like minded, just like you, from
your community, from your background or right there.
Speaker 3 (45:07):
Because here's the thing, Oh Joe, you say they got communities,
what does Slovenian have ninety five ninety eight percent obedience?
Speaker 2 (45:17):
They don't have a community. They got a whole country.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
So you know, it's like, look, you got little Haiti,
you got a little cute little Havana, yet here everything.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
Guess what. Guess what Cuba got big Havana. Yeah, you
know what, don't don't nobody want to be there.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
Now that's a bad They definitely don't want to be
under that that resu But uh, look I get what
you're saying. It's like, bro, but it's just like anything.
I mean, some doctors when you go to the combine,
some doctors gonna say, hey, down the road, he might
I feel abnormal laxness in his knee.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
I feel abormal laxness in the shoulder.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
Some guys, like some daughters might say, nah, I don't
see a problem. But here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
You don't see a problem in two years in that
guy's nick you know you out, you know you're gonna be.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
Out of a job, right. Yeah, So that's why they
are on the side of caution.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
Yeah, you know what they air on the side of caution,
depending on who it is. They are on the side
of caution, depending on who the player is.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
Because Ojo, you got to realize the basketball players guarantee.
Speaker 7 (46:29):
Now that you will get hurt. Guess what that two
hundred million you're gonna get all that three d get
all that. That's the chance we have to take. That's
the chance we have to take, depending again, depending on
who the players.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
I mean, look at look at no disrespect, no disrespect,
you know, Kawhi Leonard, Yes, Paul George. I mean there
are a number of players that I can name that
that that got the bag because of what they can
do on the court and unfortunately do the unfortunate.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
Circumstances they got hurt.
Speaker 3 (46:59):
They could do about that just because somebody else is foolish,
That don't mean I gotta be foolish. Now, deep down inside,
what you think they're thinking about giving your Joel and
Bean when he had two years left another three years
at one hundred and ninety three million dollars. So now
he's got five years that two hundred and forty million
dollars coming right, How you think they're thinking about that? O, Joe?
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Can I ask you a question? Yeah? When Joel and
Biid is on the court, Yeah, and he's steeling. Okay,
you know what you get? Right?
Speaker 3 (47:30):
Let me ask you to see what you just said.
Before you said court? What before letter word did you use?
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Win? Right? Win?
Speaker 3 (47:45):
He's played four hundred and twelve games, he's missed four
hundred and five.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Is there another replacement for Joel Andbiid? Is there another
Joeling bead out here? Hell?
Speaker 3 (47:57):
I can't get Joel and Bead out there. I don't
need a repair, just need him. I don't need a replacement.
I beat his ass out of the core. You're talking
about the replacement again. This is this is this is
what I'm talking about. This is what I'm talking about too.
Now we talking about a special player. Yes, that ain't
just you ain't just picking them off off the trees
like that.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
That you will take the chance and pay him what
he's getting paid despite the amount of games he missed.
Why because he's special? Yes, And you understand what you
get when he is on the court. So you know
what we gonna pay because we know we get when
he is in the court, despite the injuries he may have. Yeah,
(48:36):
and that's the difference in young Bull that's in Charlotte,
that who had an opportunity to play.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
If he was if he was anything like a Joel Ebid,
he'd be with the Lakers. They would have definitely passed
him on that test.
Speaker 3 (48:48):
But if you think about it, Oh, Joe Bill, they
gonna be in a big Now, good luck trying to
get off Paul George. He just signed four years that
two hundred and whatever million dollars. Jordan be got two
hundred and forty and sixty coming.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
Now, what's the likelihood of these as these guys getting older,
they get healthier.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
It's tough. It's tough now, yeah, yeah, and listen, as
they get older, what you can do.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
I could be wrong, but don't have them on the
ball as much, allowing them to if I mean, as
a player, I think you have to evolve where you
don't need to touch the ball as much, where you
you're not putting as much stress and work on yourself.
I'm sure, I'm sure there's a way that you can
make it happen. You're not the main focal point. Well,
(49:41):
Paul George isn't the main focal point. He was supposed
to be that third wheels. He was supposed to be
Joeling Bee, ty Reese Max and Paul George. That's what
it was supposed to be.
Speaker 3 (49:49):
But it looks like now it's ty Reeves MAXI team
and it's Tyree's Maxy, Joel Enbiid and Paul George. But
Paul George has been nicked from the jump. Yeah, Joel
Embiid with the problem that I got with embid. If
you think about it, O Joe, he was he got
hurt at the end of the season. He was nick
(50:09):
during the postseason. You would have thought that, you know what,
I'm gonna take my you know what, guys, I know,
I promise you guys that I was gonna come to
the Olympics, but I gotta get healthy because the goat
if I Philly, I wouldn't let him play. No hell now,
gold medal versus me trying to win a ring, gold medal,
(50:30):
ring Olympics.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
Don't pay no money.
Speaker 3 (50:32):
I appreciate and I know Jordan Bead is extremely happy
he immigrated from Cameroon. Hey, everything is so much of
what he's been given from America, and he should he's
grateful and he's thankful than he should be. But at
the end of the day, Ojo, the Olympics don't put
five hundred million in your pocket.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
The Philadephia seventy six is half. I got you, I
got you, and so that's that's just my thinking.
Speaker 3 (50:55):
Me bro Hey, I would love to, you know, be
on that last ride because what we had, the bird
magic Jordan, you had steph U Durant and Braun. That
was to be a part of that and to win
the goal. And I watched that next blitch, that Netflix special.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
It was unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (51:13):
Following the Olympic team and guys tried to and and
they got access to you hear the Canadian team and
you see ut Liftomania, uh, the Serbian team with Yok
and Bondanovitch and you got the Americans.
Speaker 2 (51:28):
But no, no, no, bro you you you you you compromised.
Speaker 3 (51:33):
The sixth of season, oh Joe, because he hasn't been healthy,
not one day since the season kicked off.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
And Joel and Be been healthy. Dang.
Speaker 3 (51:46):
Yeah, And it's it's it's uh, you know, I feel
bad for the seventy six ers. I really do, because
they're doing everything they possibly can. Look, they got Ben
Simmons that didn't work out. I mean whatever, whatever, what
whatever whatever they had James Harden. And James Harden is
like he's the hardening. You know, he wanted to be there,
(52:07):
but he wanted his money. He took a pay cut,
and that's what.
Speaker 2 (52:10):
That's what. That's the thing on Joe. Stop taking pay cuts.
Speaker 3 (52:13):
Stop giving these teams discounts because they get you over
the bowl and then they're like, well, we're not gonna
pay you Noah. James Harden like, bo, wait a minute, bro,
I meet that Brad. Yeah, hopefully, uh we'll see
Speaker 1 (52:30):
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