Nightcap - Hour 2: Ryan Coogler joins the show, Grandmother walks through basketball game, and Reverend asking for too much money! - The Volume

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Speaker 3 (05:35):
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Speaker 2 (05:36):
The Patriots signed Stefan Diggs three years contract.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Worth up to sixty nine million digs.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Is thirty one years of age, working his way back
from a torn acl for Black Brabel. It's all in
on Dick saying, yeah, just trying to make sure we're
supporting Drake and supporting the football team. And again, this
is a highly competitive company receiver that's produced throughout his
career at multiple ways. Play in style, Yeah, he's got
a play strength to him, and he sees that he

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can play physical, you know, route craft, good run out
of catch and that's good in the reds all and
there's a play a play style to him that's always
appreciated and that's what we want to continue on enhance
and make sure that he's doing things to help us.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Are you surprised that he got that length of deal,
that kind of deal coming off in l.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
No, Absolutely not no, because no, I wasn't surpried because
they were in need of a playmaker of this magnitude
even with Steph R. Diggs coming off of ACL.

Speaker 5 (06:33):
I understand Rabel in the sands, Robert Craft in the sands,
and I.

Speaker 4 (06:37):
Tweeted it out. I'm not sure people in the check
and pull up betweet that I said right before he
even got signed, when he went on the visit, I
said something to the likes of one leg, two legs,
no legs at all. Make sure he leaves that building
with the deal. Not only I'm talking about the competitor
that he is and the ability for him to be

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able to get open and manipulate defenses.

Speaker 5 (07:01):
Even if he done that, even if he doesn't play
on the outside, he plays on the inside.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
That's a that's a target that.

Speaker 5 (07:07):
Drake may needs that he can be he can be
relying on during football season.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
There's enough time from now with him rehapping, because I've
already seen some drills with Stefan out there working already,
and I'm seeing how far he's come so far.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
I saw him squadding, But I was surprised. I thought
somebody would make a proven deal one year. Oh yeah, one,
you know what I'm saying, on your one year fifteen
million dollars with a chance to make twenty twenty five million, right,
But who knows. We haven't seen the intricacies of this deal.
It might be a one year deal disguised as a
three year deal. We talked, we saw T. Higgins deals

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and basically it's a one year deal.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
Okay, okay, yeah, listen, I like it though, especially yeah, yeah, yeah,
for sure a veteran receiver look to me. To me,
some people would probably won't like it. I think a
good locker room presence, especially for the receives, for Drake
may may being able to converse and learn from Diggs

(08:05):
on some of the things. That's when it comes to
the route running and processing information and understanding what he
sees and what he may see and how how things
you know.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Yeah, back to the a t V. Rodney Rodgers got paralyzed.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
You remember Rodney Rogers, the wake Farst, great talented player,
Denver Nuggets. He got pair he and I think he
was the Phoenix at the time, but he ended up
getting paralyzed on one.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
He was a hell of a player. Ojo.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Rodney Rodgers left handed with the wake far As, he
might have been player of the year. Uh in the
a SEC looked at up as he was o Jo.
I'm talking about the junt I mean he was I'm
talking about he was built like a football player a change.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Don't remember Rodney Rogers, so he.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
Looked he looked like Larry Johnson basically.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Oh he was thinking he was.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yes, he was a CC Player of the Year Ocho
with the ACC When the Carolines it and they were
loaded back there, he went, yeah, he was U.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
There's another one. Guy.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
Uh Williams, the boxer. He ended up beating Shane to
about Paul Paul Williams. Hey, Paul too. Paul told about
Paul throw about two thousand punches around. Man Paul Paul.
He was shoot, he was big ass. Well to wait
oh yeah, oh yeah, big big big big, Hey, Yeah.

(09:30):
I just wish I wish guys like yeah, yeah, uh.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
I just just this guy. Just be careful.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
That's all I'm saying about you, because I don't see
guys mess up their careers look half for it. My
mindset was just different. Once I got that money, I said,
you know what, I'm gonna make this money as long
as I can. Now once once my career is over,
because you can career gonna be over in the mid
thirties anyway, Yeah, I can hump on the motorcycle or
dirt back of But I ain't have messed no money
up right.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
No, like you said, you ain't giving none of it back.
I ain't giving none of it back.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Because you know, look, basketball player, baseball player, no matter
what happened, that money guaranteed. We ain't got no guaranteed
money on Joe. Yeah, hey one so no Sel one
hundred and sixty million.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
Sem fifty, garrow T Yeah, show Hey garrow T. Mookie.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
Yeah. Everybody don't want to Hey, everybody don't want to
live like that. On man, everybody's not gonna have that mindset.
You know, people want to be when people want to
be free, people want to enjoy themselves, you know, without
without thinking of the negatives of what could happen or
what if this happens. They just they just want to
enjoy themselves, especially you know at this age he's young,
especially in this era we in now, it's different. There's
so many things to do, so many things you can enjoy.

(10:49):
You know. But I this, and I totally agree with you.
I understand, but I'd rather than be safe and free
or doing things, you know, confining areas that they shouldn't
be doing.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
Okay, Well, if you feel if you feel that way,
like I said, blessed their heart.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
That that ain't be out of We're good, all right,
Oh Joe, we got a very special guest, the director
Black Panther, the director of Creed. He's the recipient of
four na A CP Image Awards. He's been nominated for
two Academy Awards, a Golden Globe, and the Grammy. He's

(11:34):
the director, as I mentioned Black Panther in Creed. He
has a new movie that's coming out of April called Senator.
Here he is Ryan Coogler. Ryan, how you doing, brom.
I'm happy to do with y'all.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
I'm happy that you're with us now. I'm feeling good, bro.
Like big fans Yard coming up. I used to I
used to play football, not as well as y'all, but big,
big fansy yard there and then and then watching y'all transition. Man,
it's been it's been beautiful, bro, like it is. It
always worried my heart when I see uh, when I
see athletes prolonging that career. You know what I'm saying, YEA,

(12:09):
what k you this right?

Speaker 3 (12:11):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (12:11):
You wanted you like you played football? Did you have
professional or collegiate aspirations.

Speaker 6 (12:17):
Absolutely, bro, Yeah, absolutely, Bro.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
I used to I used to play with more Sean Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,
we from We're from the same neighborhood. So okay, you
know I played him, played against him and uh and
pop warning high school and college. I played at Sacramento State,
so so so so so bro. We both played for
the same coach Man. You remember coach Steve Mushagen. Hey,

(12:40):
coach mo Yeah, coach most got me want scholarship that
Sacramento State. Oh yeah, look at that's me scoring a
touchdown on Beglas right there on you see Davis, right,
I was. I played slot.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
I was, you.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
Mean, not not like y'all, bro, But I played for school.

Speaker 6 (13:01):
You know what I'm saying. I played for you feel
me there?

Speaker 4 (13:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (13:04):
Yeah, And that's dope, man. Coach Moose is good man.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Coach. So let me ask you this.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Okay, you go to college and you have a nice
little college career. When did you decide to say, you
know what film is going to be the direction of that?

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Go ahead?

Speaker 6 (13:20):
Yeah, brought a great question.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
So I'm I got my first scholarship to a school
called Saint Mary's College, and it's known as a basketball school.
We had we used to have a football team, and
then they dropped the program after my freshman year. Okay,
I played. I played quite a bit that season. Like
I was returning, I was returning kicks, you know.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
I was always playing. I was playing.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
She played a little bit the dB that year, and
uh so I got some more scholarship offers. But while
I was there, it was a woman named Rosemary Graham
who taught a creative writing class and she read something
I wrote and she was like, hey, may think about
writing screenplays. You know, my girlfriend at the time she
now my wife. She bought me a little software, uh
that I can write screenplays when I fell in love

(14:03):
with it. Man. So so by the time I transitioned
to Sacramento State, I was doing it on the side,
taking taking classes and and and shooting shooting short fields.

Speaker 6 (14:12):
With my hommies, you know.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
And then I applied to film school in two thousand
and seven. It's crazy broke because we was in I
was doing real well going into my senior year and
and I got an injury doing seven on seven. We're
walking on was trying to walk on the team was
over eager and he uh he caught me on a
post and broke my psygo maadic artist right here. So
it was it was I was eight weeks off where

(14:35):
I couldn't lift, I couldn't do anything, and and and
and during that time, I realized, like I need to
I need to put this application in for film school. Man,
football is is is fleeting, you know.

Speaker 6 (14:44):
What I'm saying. So so I applied to USC Film
School and I got accepted.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
I found that I got accepted in the middle of
the season, and and and right around that time, man,
I started to find myself my mind wondering when I'll
be on the field there I'm.

Speaker 6 (14:57):
Thinking about thinking about the movie I want to make
on Safe. That shit is dangerous.

Speaker 7 (15:01):
When you're doing that football, you gotta be all in.
And I was kind of locked on on you. You
know what I mean, Right, That's that's dope, man. I
want to talk Listen. I'm a movie head.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
I enjoy films. I enjoy the arts and the crafts
of it. I enjoy getting lost in character. I get
very passionate when I when I talk about stuff like this.
So I watched the trailer for Centers, and to me,
it seems like a unique blend of of supernatural action,
you know, mystery and psychological theory. How did you approach
this genre and in benning concept and what was about

(15:34):
this story that made you want to tell it?

Speaker 6 (15:37):
That's a beautiful question.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
Man.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
So, So I had an uncle who was from Mississippi,
you know, from yeah, But I had an uncle was
from Mississippi and he was like the oldest memory of
my family, all this male membory with my family, you
know what I'm saying. So whatever, I kicked it with him.
He want to listen to all Bulls records and Drake
and Whiskey, you know what I'm saying. And he passed
away while I was working on Creed twenty fifteen. I

(15:59):
never really really wreckon with with with his passion, you
know what I'm saying. I would I would put blues
records on to think about him. And that was how
I got the idea for this man. Like like like
you know, coming off of coming off of Black Panther.
It was a real long movie that that will kind
of everyone. We dealt a lot of tragedies, a lot
of a lot of misfortunate with the kovid Uhh situation.

(16:19):
So for me, I wanted to make something I was quick,
but also something I was that was very much, very unique,
very profound, you know what I'm saying, Like like and
and I wanted to to to play in the genre
rock and incorporate music, but I also wanted to make
something I was a little bit that was a little scary, man,
because you know black folks, you like that, you know
what I mean, Like and talking to the screen, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Something that exactly.

Speaker 6 (16:45):
Exactly you know, I think I.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Think we have some incredible filmmakers that have capitalized on
the medium, you know what I'm saying, Like you know,
thinking Jordan's yeah, but yeah, yeah, you have a spice
spice this thing and that and that in that genre
near the constansy thing in that genre.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
You know.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
So I was fired up about it, bro And you know, truthfully, bro,
like it was a chance for me being a probably
got a greg mind gration, you know what I'm saying,
from being born and raised on the West Coast to
get back to the South and and and em brace that,
you know what I'm saying, and break that part of
my ancestory, you know what I mean, Like like I
have to I had the most amazing time making this movie.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
Bro, mm hmm that stuff?

Speaker 3 (17:23):
How long?

Speaker 4 (17:23):
How long? I'm just curious how long does it take
to make make a movie in general? I'm not I
don't mean this one in in in specifically, but I'm
just saying in general, Well, what's the timetable?

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Like, that's a great question. So so this one we
made relatively quickly, but they go from it. They can
go from anywhere from two to four years. You know,
this was able to make it one year?

Speaker 6 (17:42):
Yeah, yeah, this is it.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
It's essentially, bro, It's assentially like imagine imagine the season
season in a nine football you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (17:51):
It takes you six months to shoot, six months to
a year to shoot it, and then you have to
edit it. It takes you another six months to a
year to edit it, Corret Man.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
And that's not including writing the script, because I write
the script too, right, Okay, sometimes you got to shot
the movie around, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
Right?

Speaker 8 (18:05):
You know?

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Uh, someone I can tell you how long my movies
all took. So this is my fifth movie I wrote
and directed Proveville.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
It took.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
Classic Yeah that's crazy, I said that, man, But it
took me It took me about a year to make
that one. Okay, you know, uh Creed we shot that.
We still so Cree Cree was about a year and
a half, you know, like like in the half of
that year, was just trying to convince the loan that
that that it was worth doing, you know what I mean,
rightfully sold, you know what I mean? He was, he
was he wanted to make sure that we was we

(18:37):
were serious about it and make sure that it work.
It would work for him, And it was shot in January.
We put the film on like November. I was a
fast one.

Speaker 6 (18:45):
Black Panther took about two years. Started working on in
twenty sixteen, twenty eighteen.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Black conn of Fever was like it was like a
four year movie, you know what I'm saying, because I wrote,
I wrote one script, you know what I'm saying. Chadwick
passed away, I know, you know, didn't you know you
were sick, So they had to rewrit like that. You know,
we got going, the pandemic slowed down quite a bit,
and then you know, my my lovely actions got injured,
so we have to shut down for a little bit,
you know what I mean. And we put that on

(19:09):
all so I wanted to make something flash after that.
After that, you know, four years on one movie, you
feel me right, But I was blessed man to be
able to make something that, Uh, I'm so proud of
man like supermow. Really probably I can't wait to show
us to Hell. I think y'all gonna digg you.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
Man, Listen, I know I'm gonna digg it when you
watch the trailer for me, when it comes to anything
that you do with you an athlete, you have to
be a special athlete that puts butts in the seats.
When you're a comedian, you have to be a comedian
that has stage present to always keep it the crowd
and gauze. When I watched the trailer, and it catches you,
when it catches you right away, I don't know who

(19:46):
did it end, and I don't know who did the trailer,
but I'm telling you right away, it catches you, and
it keeps you, and it holds you. And then it's
like it's an advertiser.

Speaker 6 (19:56):
But it ain't enough.

Speaker 5 (19:58):
It ain't enough because I want to I want to
see what next.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
So now I can't wait to see it, and it
just I'm very passionate enthusiastic when it comes to movies. Bro,
I've been a fan of yours for a long time.
All your work, everything you've done. That's why I can't
shut up. Right, I'm gonna tell you.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
I'm gonna tell you something crazy for real, Bro, I'm
gonna tell you something crazy. We met before, Bro, we
met at the at the at the Tribeca Phield Festival.
It was the first film festival I ever got into.
Spike the movie called Kobe Doing Work in ESPN has
the world premiere of it. Bro and I and I
and I and I saw you in there and I
went out there and shook your hand.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
Bro.

Speaker 6 (20:33):
You know what I'm saying, just just on the string,
you know, just being a fan of what you.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Do on the football field. I was also doing the game, Bro.
You know what I'm saying, Like, whatch what y'all was doing?

Speaker 4 (20:41):
Bro?

Speaker 6 (20:42):
Overnati Man, when it was when it was when it
was when it was you and TJ.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah, Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Hey, like like
like like just just just just the the precision of
the rock runner and bred of confidence, you know. You
know what I'm saying. Both of y'all had that both
of y'all had the mental game too. Bromber Shanning bro
when used to be miked up.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
Oh, you appreciate, I appreciate, appreciate that. I appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Study your movie. A lot of your movies you got
Michael B. Jordan. Now Michael B. Jordaning this role.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
He plays a dual role. He's stacking it. Because I
was like, I was a hello, bip, this look like this.
This looked like Michael B. Jordan playing both of these
both come on down. I had to rewire it look
even close, I said, it is. What is it about
Mike that you love casting him in your movies?

Speaker 4 (21:32):
If I'm not mistaken, he was in prof Mail, he
was in pro Bail too station Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Even in all of them looks bro like, like what
should find? It's chemistry, man, you know what I'm saying.
It's it's a head coach and quarterback. It's a quarterback receiver.
You know, like like you get you develop a shorthand
where where you save time. You know what I'm saying.
You established a tone for for the rest of that
of the crew. And we're not the first one to

(21:58):
do it.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
Man.

Speaker 6 (21:59):
Usually when you see when you see filmmakers work.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
They had did veil but yeah, man, I mean big
time spiking his Tony Scott and Denzil. Yeah, you know,
Square had had a thing with with the Nero and
the DiCaprio rekindled theo exist right, you know, it's it's
it's it's it's hopeful Manute, and and and Mike has
a you know, Mike, Mike has a uh has a

(22:21):
very amazing work at you.

Speaker 6 (22:23):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
He's always willing to go, always trying to push himself.
He doesn't want to rest on his laurels, you know what.
And I and I and I can rock with that, bro.
So so you know I'll put him in. I'll put
him in every movie if I can't always he always
have a uh, he always have a role if.

Speaker 6 (22:37):
I'm if I'm working, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
And let me ask you this, right, how did you
how did you come up with the name Centers? Why
the name Sinners?

Speaker 1 (22:44):
That's a great question, bro. We we found that late
man Like for a long time that movie was just
called Grilled She It was a working working title. Yeah,
so he put up in Louis Louisiana. You know this
past summer and sad Man, we're grill, she's shooting. That
would have brought you, that have brought you to our movie, okay,
you know. And and and the story behind that name
was I've been cooking these long, these long, drawing off

(23:05):
crazy meals. I wanted to make something quick and fast.
I knew it good, you know what I'm saying. So
that's how we came up with die but for for Sinners.
You know, it was a collaboration between us and the
studio trying to figure out the right name for the movie.
And and we realized that that that that line, you
know that that word was said so many times throughout
the stript. You know that it deals with blues music

(23:28):
and this relationship with the church. You know, like a
lot of times of the best blues singers will come
from gospel, you know what I'm saying. You learned that
that you know a lot of times that Daddy's was pastors,
you know what I mean. And they and they singing,
they singing music about drinking and bumping and grinding, and
it's in conflict with how that was raised, you know,
you know what. So that so that dynamic was one
that we were really that we were really uh you know,

(23:48):
once we realized that that like like it was like
a man, I was always a name. It should always
been called that.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
You know, but this movie, but this trust no one
because this movie to have a lot to do with paranoia.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
Absolutely, bro Like like I mean.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Look, it's it's it's you know, it's dealing with it's
dealing with black culture, you know what I'm saying, And
and and a lot of folks don't know that like
that that you know, I would argue that blues music
is the most important contribution that America has made to
the global pop culture. You know what I'm saying, Everything originated,
everybod comes from that, and you do when you do

(24:28):
the research, it really came from this one specific area
of Mississippi, you know what i mean, like like like
and and and at that time when when blues was created,
it was very hard.

Speaker 6 (24:37):
It was a very hard place to be black, you
know what I'm saying. And people were trying to people
were trying to affirm that humanity, affirm.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
That dignity at a time when when when when it
was you know, when it was when it was very
difficult and people were trying to keep them separate, right,
you know what I mean? And if for me that
experience kind of breinges a level of paranoia, you know
what I mean, When you can't when you can't be
all after after the dark and certain towns you gotta
you know where, you know, where everybody knows everybody. When
somebody knew shows up, you know what I'm saying, That
somebody who's been gone a long time, you know, it's

(25:06):
a little it's a little bit uh uh. You know,
you might look out on a certain way, you know,
I mean, how did y'all come up? Mana, y'all come
from places where everybody knew everybody.

Speaker 6 (25:13):
You can tell all.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Sorry, job, I'm from a small town. There were thirty
five hundred people with two traffic lights. So yeah, I
mean pretty much we pretty much knew everybody. Now, obviously
there were people that we would come back from New
York as Chicago and Detroit that I wasn't familiar with,
but I knew their family and after a while they
ended up staying, so we were cool.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
We were cool with them.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Also, you said something very interesting, because everybody talks about
the Mississippi Delta.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
The Delta blues, yes, sir, And this film, this film
deals with a lot of brotherhood lordy fate.

Speaker 6 (25:46):
Yes, sir.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
You you did a great job of working and and
and and putting all that together. And it came together
from the trailer for what I saw.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
I'm gonna go.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
I haven't been to the movie. I hadn't been to
the movie since the pandemic. I'm gonna go check this
one out. Can't you rested to see how you tied
this thing all together? Now I saw the two minute trailer,
but I would have see you tied this thing together
for ninety minutes.

Speaker 6 (26:08):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean we I'm proud of it, man.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
And like, look, another reason I think he's gonna You're
gonna diggy man, it's your relationship with y'all brother sterling bro.
You know what I'm saying, Like whenever I hear y'all,
whenever I hear y'all talk, I gotta imagine in y'all neighborhood,
y'all was knowing.

Speaker 3 (26:22):

Speaker 1 (26:23):
You know, like in that so these twins, you know,
it's stacking smoke, Yeah, smoking stack.

Speaker 6 (26:28):
It's an archetype, right, Like every neighbor, always already been.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
He had a set of twins that everybody knew that
was kind of notorious, you know, you know what I'm saying.
And we were playing on that that you know that
that that that relationship between the brothers, Man, what makes
them similar? What makes them different? I think Mike just
did a beautiful job with him. Man, I think you're
really gonna enjoy anybody who who got that type of relationship.
You know what I'm saying, Big brother, got a little brother.

(26:52):
You know, don't really feel this movie. I think on
a different level.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
I like it. I got I got one more question, man,
after creating something like this, something that's so bold, so different,
and you know, you're pushing boundaries, you know, with with
with most of your work and your craft. And and
again I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna harp on it
because I've never had a chance to actually tell you.
Now I do. I'm gonna make sure I let you know.
I'm a huge fan of everything you've done, and I'm
really I'm really really excited for this. But do you

(27:18):
see yourself continue to push boundaries with more genre films
or or just I don't want to be too nosy.

Speaker 6 (27:24):
But what's next?

Speaker 4 (27:26):
We got another Creed coming? If we if we do
got another Creed coming, I want to shoot my shot
real quick. I could be like the final Boss. Yeah
we can cre coming for sure. Oh let me let
me gonna direct that. So so yeah, like you know absolutely,
bro Like I think, I think, uh we let it
make something happen for you. But the other, the other

(27:46):
piece for me is like, you know, I want to
work a long time, bro I wanna, I wanna, I wanna.
I want to make all types of stuff. Man, I
do love working in the genre space. This is my
first This is my first like movie with all no
horror elements.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
And Brock will tell you it's very addictive, you know
what I'm saying, Like the idead, the idea doing something
else that that that that isn't as much fun. It
kind of frightens me a little bit, man, like you
know so so, but we'll see, man, we'll put this
out to the world and how people responding, and then
we'll go from there. But I'm definitely I'm definitely not
closing the door on doing more genre work. Sure, man,

(28:24):
it was it was just it was just too much
fun with your for real.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Right, you know what, Ryan, when I look at it
and I think about like, you did Fruit Veil, You've
done a Creed, You've done Blackmanther.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
Now you're in this genre.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
It's kind of like Spike, because Spike has kind of
been all over the place. He's done Malcolm X, He's
done Hurricane, he did Devil in Blue Dress, He's done
the hallm Blues, he's done Inside Man, he's done a
I think man On.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
I think he did man On that twenty fifth twenty
fifth hours.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Yeah, so he's kind of if that kind of the
direction like look, I don't want y'all hold me in there,
and saying, oh, he only does this if this a comedy,
this is right. If it's something to do with Marvel
or or Black prapt that it's gotta be right. You
want to be like multi facetted.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
You don't want to be tied down or pigeonholed or
tight calf for any particular type of movie.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Right, that's absolutely correct, man, Spike. Spike's a big, big
hero of mine. Man a mentor, you know, same with
same with John Singleton. You know what I'm saying, big
big hero mentor. And then stepping outside of our urt
you know, our community.

Speaker 6 (29:36):
I love something.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
It's like Steven Soderbergh, you know what I'm saying, where
you never know, you never know what they're gonna do next,
but you gotta, you gotta you know it's gonna be quality,
you know. You know what I'm saying, like like if,
and I do definitely want to continue to push myself
but also push the medium for it. Man, you know
what I'm saying, like it's it's it's a blessing to
be able to to to work in a space where
you get to work on things out of fresh work

(29:57):
on things that haven't been done before, you know, Fancis
with this film, you know, this is the first time
that the Imax camera has been combined with a with
a ultrepane vision Lyn. So it's the same it's the
same camera work, same camera package I was using on
Quin Tarantino's film A Hateful Eight.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
Yeah, oh that was great. Yeah, that was good.

Speaker 6 (30:16):
Combined that that was good with the traditional Imax film camera.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
First time ever, you know what I'm saying, So so
so getting getting a chance to break new ground and
do that with with you know, with people of color
on the screen, I mean, in a story set in
the Mississippi does it.

Speaker 6 (30:28):
But it's a great honor to be able to do
something like that, you know, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (30:31):
And if it helps me to be motivated to stay sharp,
you know, I'm getting to work with people who I've
been working with for.

Speaker 6 (30:38):
A long time, and it's just amazing.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
I don't want I don't want to be too presumptuous
of this, but I saw something and it seems like, uh,
I forget the two brothers, but it's two brothers, oh Joe,
uh and one of them.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
Might be cast. I would have throw my head in
for you. I would to throw my head in. I
just throw what's it doing? I would have throw my
hand into Hey, man, get it in there. Hey, Hey,
we can talk about it. Man, Hey, how you go?
How you gonna take my stillo?

Speaker 4 (31:09):
Can I get my role first?

Speaker 3 (31:10):
And okay okay, oh you okay? You want to be
one of the fighters that Creed fight? Yeah, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
I got an extensive background in combat sports, so it
would be perfect to be able to transition.

Speaker 5 (31:22):
So I ain't really got to play no character. I
could just be mistakes.

Speaker 6 (31:25):
Hey, popping that things.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Oh Joe, I feel yeah, yeah, all this harde, all
this harde, all this hardy.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
I mean, hey, they had him, they had him already
in the uniform. I'm like, okay, yeah he definitely could,
he could definitely pass. But the Yalla, yeah he could.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Yeah yeah, all this big shots off of all this
man incredible. You know he may watch his too, bro
does it, but straight up knows how to make watches.
Bro like like a like a like a genis bro.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
You know what I'm saying. Right, Well, you were you?
Were you as a kid? Were you in the comics?
Were you a superhero fan?

Speaker 3 (32:01):
Yeah? Big time.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
I had an older cousin. You know, I'm the orders
of three boys, so I had no big brothers. Always
been looking for him, you know what I'm saying. I
had an older cousin who was who was who was
seven years older than me, who was a big head,
and I got into him just because he I thought
he was cool. You film me so, right, So I
was when I started reading him, But I did. I
did always read him like I took a break from
a little bit when I when I got serious about sports, right,

(32:24):
but we were still watched the cartoons with how you
but it was, you know, it was it was all
school in balld for like you know, from I always
say from like from like eighth grade, like ninth grade
maybe to uh to to my senior year at college
and I went back to film school.

Speaker 6 (32:36):
I got back into him, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (32:38):
Do you collect him?

Speaker 6 (32:40):
Man, that's a great question, bro. I honestly I do.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
I do, man like not but not but not actively
bro Like, Like what happened is it's like I'll go
to comic Con for work and I'll go. They got
they got they got basically a floor you know, can
where you can go, where you can go buy any
trade trade by Oh yeah, I gotta go in there
and hit the floor and copy one or something, you
know what I mean. But it's been a while since
I've been in the comic book story. Man, I'm not

(33:05):
I'm not gonna hold you give me your top five
superheroes ship, all right, all right, I'm gonna go fast.
I'm gonna I'm alway thinking, well go I'm gonna go
to I'm gonna go to Charlad number one, Okay, and
then I'm gonna go I'm gonna go woo wring Okay.

Speaker 6 (33:26):
Who couple villains in it?

Speaker 4 (33:29):
You can't?

Speaker 6 (33:30):
Yeah, I got, I got, I got Manial number three?

Speaker 3 (33:34):
You got who Magneto?

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Yeah, I got, I got, I got mag Neil number three,
I got. All Right, I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna
go deep cut. We'll go deep cut rush arts from
from watch me. Okay, I know, Shark Rush shark Okay,
watch me.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
And then.

Speaker 6 (33:58):
And then I'm gonna I'm gonna go.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
I'm gonna go rogue. Okay.

Speaker 6 (34:07):
Yeah, guys, bro like like the the.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
You know, you know, you know, you know, take our
glove off, touch touch, you take your powers knock y'all.
I mean that's yeah, Yeah, that's pretty that's pretty shyy.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
I'm surprised you really didn't go with a lot of
the old like like Superman, Batman, Batman ain't no superhero
Batman they got he can't.

Speaker 6 (34:25):
With that, bro bro ba Batman, Batman.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Batman was a dog for me, o bro Like, Like
the fact that I'm saying is what I was saying,
Batman is crazy because because because that was that was,
that was man I was, that was the one for us.

Speaker 6 (34:36):
Because they had to they had to, they had the
animated series.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Yeah, and we used to main line and I had
a homie for Fresno who played dB incredible defensive back
here here a coach now man, Me and him are
during fall camp. Bro We we went high on the
on the d v D pack and during them do
thats were we were ride back to his girl house
and watching washing and watch the movie Broold make up,

(35:00):
will make a little should make a little food for us.

Speaker 6 (35:01):
Bro on the college, bro tak taking it, taking it
back to eighth grade with you.

Speaker 4 (35:05):
You know that's the that's live, That's live, So.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
Black Panther three. How long we gotta wait?

Speaker 4 (35:15):
Not long?

Speaker 3 (35:17):
You're not long?

Speaker 2 (35:18):
I mean there's been a lot of rumor circulating that, uh,
Denzel gonna be in it. Yeah, I don't know, that's
what that's what the word in the street. Yeah, yeah talking.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Well, I've been dying to work with danjail Man, and
I'm hoping we can make that happen. But but but
I got I got every intention on working with him
when in that movie. And he as long as as
long as as long as he interesting, man, we it's
gonna happen.

Speaker 6 (35:46):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
But but but you know, he he he'll live in
legend man and a great and a great mentor for
so many of us. You know, like he just he
just he's all about all about looking out for us now, man,
you know what I'm saying. And you know it wasn't
example bro for how to live.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
Man.

Speaker 6 (36:05):
He got his family right, you know, his children.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Yeah, man, like everybody has been with Paul Leoner for
forty plus years. John David, John David used to train
with me in Atlanta. I had retired, but he was
died at Morehouse and the trainer that trained me bring
him to the track. We you know, you know, tell
him how to do certain things. I've known that family
for twenty that was in retired, so like twenty plus years.

(36:29):
So and Denzel is great. His wife Pauletta, John David
many they're unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (36:37):
Or see I just I just seen Denzel. I wasn't
able to actually they were. I was able to let
him wi. I was there, but he wasn't taking no visitors.
It didn't matter, it didn't matter who you were. I
was able to see him.

Speaker 5 (36:48):
Last week in New York, I went to see Othello
yeah yeah.

Speaker 6 (36:51):
On Broadway, bro No with on Broadway in a different
songe bro.

Speaker 4 (36:55):
Oh yeah, I always at play oh man, beautiful, beautiful.

Speaker 6 (36:59):
Listen.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
I took drama. I took drama uh in high school.
So that's why I still have a love for for
drama in the arts and theater and dance. So I
excuse me, huh, come on, un man, stop playing right
and listen. You already know because you cant. Hey, you
can hear me talk. When I talk about certain things.

Speaker 5 (37:21):
You already know it's something I really like that.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
Hey, hey, why you why you? Hey?

Speaker 6 (37:25):
Why why you called bullshit? When he said dance show?
That was when he that was when he got up
in there are your brother?

Speaker 3 (37:30):
Yeah, hold on, this is this is how. This is
how you know.

Speaker 5 (37:32):
I love dance too. Maya maya rci I did, I
did when I was playing.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
Yeah, I just left. I just left New Orleans.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
Last week I went to see Alvin Ellie Man for
the the umpteen time since nineteen eighty eight.

Speaker 5 (37:46):
When my grandma took me to go see him in
eighty eight at the Gustman Theater.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
Bro, Hey, come on, hey, hey, I want to go
see him. I'm gonna see him. I haven't been the
whole lot of Broadway. I saw, Uh, I saw Samuel
Jackson when he played Doctor King. Okay, I might not
get there. Yeah, Uh, Broadways is different is It's so

(38:15):
different than going to the It's so different than go
into an actual movie. I don't know if you know
what I'm saying, don't Joe. I mean you like you
just went to but to sit there and to see
I'm like, damn, this is amazing.

Speaker 7 (38:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
Yeah, it's no joke.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
Bro.

Speaker 6 (38:30):
It's a true actors medium, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
Yes, like like whereas whereas in film, you know, like
like it's arguably a filmmakers medium that sad television as
a writers.

Speaker 6 (38:39):
Medium like like like that at that stage is a
actors medium.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
Bro.

Speaker 6 (38:42):
They got nothing to save them, you know what I'm saying.
They just they just up there.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
You know what I mean. It's no you get in.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
You know what I'm saying, Like I It's just it's
just Hey, that's what Denzel says. Denzel says, he's a
He's a theatrical actor that went to the screen. See
he cut his teeth on Broadway.

Speaker 4 (39:04):
He takes that.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
He said, some people are stage and they come to Broadway.
I was Broadway that went to the went to the screen.

Speaker 6 (39:10):
It's too bro because because like because like a lot
of people don't a lot of people don't understand too.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
It's like it's like it's like the culture of Broadway,
you know, like like very similar to you know, very
similar to basketball, right, like if you if you, if you,
you know, like basketball is very culturally ingrained in the
United States, so much so that if you go professional,
if you go watch a professional basketball game anywhere in
the world, most of the players is gonna be from

(39:37):
the States.

Speaker 6 (39:38):

Speaker 1 (39:38):
If you go overseas to Italy and watch the game
there or overseas in Germany, you know what I'm saying,
Like you'll you'll see a lot of players here and
with that stage work. You know, it's so culturally ingrained
in the u k. You know, you know what I mean,
Like it's it's it's a part of their culture. They
are bought, uh the stage right the way we are
about basketball here, you know what. You know what I'm saying,

(40:00):
It's in every school, it's in every you know. So
you see, so you'll see these British actors getting shipped
all over the place man, and on every role, you
know what I mean, And on every on every you know,
you know, white white British actors.

Speaker 6 (40:11):
Uh uh uh black British actors. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Yeah, for for me coming up, Bro, The first one
I hit, I hit a Broadway play and really and
really seeing and really seeing it, seeing somebody get THEMN
you know what I mean? It was It was it
was like, you know, like like I then I wish
I had been exposed to it earlier.

Speaker 4 (40:31):
Bro.

Speaker 6 (40:32):

Speaker 3 (40:32):
I might I might have been. I might have been
doing that, you know what I mean? Right?

Speaker 2 (40:36):
And well, hey, even if I just get a me
or I could be I could be Bocal's brother or
we got you.

Speaker 6 (40:42):
Bro, Hey he if y'all, man, Hey, you.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
Watch that, I could be a brother something. I'm covering
that that. I'm covering it. I'm covering winning ride. I'm
winning man.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
Yeah, y'all, I'm with it, man, Yeah, yeah, yeah all,
y got y'all got said, y'all got such great chemistry. Man.

Speaker 6 (41:02):
When I when I when I watch y'all, bro, Yeah, man.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Centers arrive in theaters April eighteenth, directed by written by
Ryan Coogler. He written such Freak, fruit Bell Station, Black Panther, Wakanda,
Forever Creed, and now he's with this one. Sinners arrives
in theaters April eighteenth. Ryan, thank you for giving us

(41:28):
a little bit of your time. Thank you for the trailer.
Were gonna support you. Hey, chat, make sure we go
out here and support our brother, Ryan Coogler. Hey, he's
doing big things for the community, do a big thing
for the culture. We gotta make sure we keep him up.
We're gonna lift him up and we're gonna keep him
up there. Ryan, thank you so much for your time.
Appreciate it. Hey, I'll see you down.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
The road now.

Speaker 9 (41:47):
I appreciate y'all. Man, Thank y'all, Thank you boss man. Yes, sir,
o yo, we're gonna get into the movie. Oh ch
other Hey, hey, hey, we're gon be famous.

Speaker 10 (42:08):
Problem, but y'all off the chain, man, y'all take appreciating Oh.

Speaker 11 (42:23):
Hey, hey, hey, you and you you ain't you ain't know.
I took ballet, you know, some drama in high school
and stand hold on, hold on. This is this is why,
this is why I'm so into it is I needed
to be eligible to play football. So you know how
you just be taking classes. We ain't got no bit
of taken.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
So I took.

Speaker 4 (42:43):
I took drama just to be eligible to play because
I need the credits. I end up like, listen, I
end up liking the damn class. And now even to
this day, still to this day, anytime Broadway plays come
to the Agent R Center down here in Miami, I'm there.
I listen.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
I haven't been.

Speaker 4 (43:00):
It's nothing. From Chicago to Mulin, Ruse, the Wicked, the Cats,
I haven't seen it all. The Lion King, oh man,
I love that. Man, but I need, I need, I need,
I need to go see Denzel. Hey, you you'll love it.
I'm not sure when you're in New York again, and
I'm like, what, just might go on my own. Yeah,
you gotta go. You're gonna love it. You're gonna love it.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
But it was great. Man, Ryan is unbelievable. You know,
we communicate a little bit. Uh uh.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
He's been wanting to come on, he said, Man, I
just want to come on. He said, give me on something,
you know, I come on club shall I'll come on
night Cap. I just want to Hey, I just want
to chill. He said, man, I love what you do.
I love you and o your man y'all ay. I
love how you and him play off each other. And
so I was like, hey, we gonna. I was glad
we were able to get this and to make this,
make this work. I actually met the guy that played

(43:49):
with Boku and uh and uh uh uh black Panther,
I actually met him. But where I go get my
nails or salon Republic and uh la.

Speaker 4 (44:00):
I actually met him at the at the getting his car,
took a picture of him and everything. Cool.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
Dude, Oh Joe four hundred and sixty four pounds d
tackled Desmond Watson could be the largest draft pick in
NFL history. His weight comes with a massive six foot
six inch frame. Washington had his pro day workout. He
bitched two twenty five thirty six times. That's more than
any player muster that this year's combined. And he ran

(44:28):
the forty in under six seconds of five to nine three.
And he have a twenty five inch vertical Aaron Gibson
No Aeron Gibson only weigh four or five. From Wisconsin,
hold on to Detroit. Hey, can can you do me
a favorite?

Speaker 3 (44:44):
Real quick? Yes for me?

Speaker 4 (44:46):
Because I can see, I can't visually see him. So
listening to the numbers you're giving me, is he bigger
than Sam Adams?

Speaker 3 (44:54):
Yeah? Bigginning.

Speaker 5 (44:55):
Is he bigger than what Sam Adams was or bigger
than Gilbert Brown?

Speaker 4 (44:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Yeah? He outweighed them down there by one hundred? What
he fox? Sixty four?

Speaker 4 (45:05):
Oh Joe, Well but you think give Brown what you think?
Gibber Brown was like three sixty five, three seventy top.
But Kenny, Kenny, Kenny Moore, he ran five nine three.
I mean moving the position that he actually plays.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
Hey, think about it. He'll d tackle. He ain't going
a gap to be gap.

Speaker 4 (45:25):
Oh he clawed. He clogging us. Okay, okay, hey, hey,
somebody in the AFC.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
He's need to drift.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
I mean the NFC East stopped, uh the petution push,
put his ass on over the center, said look here,
you got the guard.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
You got the guard in the center.

Speaker 4 (45:42):
Listen, listen, Cincinnati, Cincinnati. We need help on defense, and
obviously we could start that the defense. We can start
right there on that defensive line. Bring him on down there,
clog that clogged that thing up.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
If I'm not mistaken, I think at one point time
he was almost five hundred pounds, wasn't it?

Speaker 3 (45:55):
Did he lose? Did he lose like forty fifty pounds?
As h Desmond Watson.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
I think I think I heard him talking about it
that he was like almost five hundreds, like really close
to five hundred at one point time.

Speaker 4 (46:12):
Oh, they gonna, hey, listen, depending on where you go,
they gonna get that way up off of him. They
gonna get somebody up off of him.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
Hey, and something point. Hey, oh Joe, I mean you
might get him down there. You ain't getting them under
four hundred.

Speaker 5 (46:27):
Yeah, I mean listen, zip yeah, and get him a look,
you put him on that zippic.

Speaker 4 (46:36):
That's the only way he's gonna get a funny, hey, ozippic,
simmer glue tide, try Zephar tide.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
That's all.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
And at four sixty four eight, I see day he can't.
He can't play in the league if he tried this die.
And I've seen somebody over four underd pounds and they
got tried dip died, and they with under two hundred crack.
I had the old boy, Hey, he about four tid

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that pipe had it drawn up. He was under two
hundred by one second. Five, Hey, man, you shot out man.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
With Yojo.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
I hope boy, I hope my boy get an opportunity
to play. I think somebody go. I think somebody gonna
give an opportunity. Yeah, yeah, listen, hey man, we don't
we cultn't the name and everything. Hey man, he on
that zipp.

Speaker 4 (47:39):
Hey, I just listen. I love I love the number
headed numbers. It sounds, it sounds, you know, staggering, It
sounds intimidating. But I need to see what you look
like when you turn the film on.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
Are you? Are you distructive? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (47:52):
You know, Oh Joe l s U office attacker Will
Campbell has something to say about people scrutinized.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
They called it t rex uh.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
For two years, nobody had any measurements on me and
nobody said anything about my play. So now all of
a sudden, arm Lens decided if I'm a good player
or not. I think it's the mark. Drafts have him
going somewhere between and number ten to the barriers, from
number eleven to the forty nine ers.

Speaker 4 (48:19):
Listen, I know, don't listen to that stuff. And I
hope he done.

Speaker 5 (48:22):
Young boy, don't worry, don't worry about that stuff.

Speaker 4 (48:24):
And listen. Then will Nick pick at everything and find
issues with small hands, small shoulders, I mean, small feet.
I mean it really had nothing to do with the
game of football. When you turn the film on, what
are you doing with those t Rex arms of your
That's all I know. That's that's all that matter. Come on,

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when you turn the film on, what are you doing?
That's Hey, he's good.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
That he going early.

Speaker 4 (48:55):
He's gonna be out the board.

Speaker 5 (48:57):
He's gonna be a You're gonna be a great player
for somebody.

Speaker 4 (48:59):
Man, he's gonna be a great player for somebody.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
Oh you check this out? Granny said, yep, your little
basketball game. Oh your watch this video? What is that
the game going? What is that walking across the court?
Granted Grandy had to get to the other side. Granted,

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sad walking round?

Speaker 3 (49:27):
No court, that's too far. I'm walking right through.

Speaker 5 (49:34):
Hey, listen, this is visual representation of I don't give it.

Speaker 4 (49:40):
You know what? Yeah, I don't give it. Damn, I'm
walking right through. She ain't got she she ain't got,
she don't know no better. Grand ain't speed up or nothing. Hey,
that's funny. Hey, that was funny. I ain't know what
that was wrong. Across that screen.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
That's granted. Oh Joe, yo, we got to talk about this.
This year Marvin Sapp is receiving backlash. He locked the
door of the church until they receive forty k in donations.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
Listen to this with Joe.

Speaker 4 (50:15):
Okay, come on, and.

Speaker 8 (50:16):
They understand the cost that is involved. There's one thousand
of you. I said, close them doors, ushers, close the doors,
close the doors, close the doors. It's a thousand that's
watching online. This is a small seed. If I get

(50:39):
a thousand on line to give this, if I get
a thousand in the sanctuary to give this, that's forty
thousand dollars tonight. Now, everyone up here, we've all sold
in seated, but I need everyone standing up here with us,
with me to plan a seat of one hundred dollars,
because again, it costs to sit up here.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
And this is what I need you to do.

Speaker 8 (50:58):
If you're giving electronically or even to give intangibly, I'm
gonna have y'all come to the altar and give it
because I need to see a thousand people who bring
them baskets bring I want the baskets up here. I
want to see the folk. Y'all start moving, y'all can
bring it right now, Come, come, come, come, come. A
thousand people need to give twenty dollars. A thousand people

(51:19):
need to give twenty dollars. A thousand people online. You
need to give twenty dollars.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
This is easy. Saints.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
Hey, well that's always been the church. That's always been
to church.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
But see they used to check face.

Speaker 4 (51:32):
Always been to church.

Speaker 5 (51:33):
I grew up in a church.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
You know that offering play to come around time now,
they said, But the Lord said give what you can.
He didn't put he didn't put no number on it.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
Oh no, no he didn't. He say, when you tied.

Speaker 5 (51:46):
Ten percent, ten percent of your earth is now, yes,
ten percent of your.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Earth, will say Melico figures through melicoed three eight through eleven.
He said, Oh, man, rob God. He answers the question,
because yes, I do know what you're gonna do. He said, Yeah,
where would I rob you? He said, in tide and
and offering? He said, bring your tie to the storehouse
and open up the windows of heaven and pour you
out of blessings that you will not be able to receive.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
That's what he's saying. Now.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
He ain't tell me Jack made coming up mere talking
about see what they preaching his prosperity.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
Yes, sir, yes, see that's why I'm going to the ministry.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
Yeah, oh Joe, yes, sir.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
Plaster playground, off the plastic collection plate. Now look here,
un joe, Hey, don't put no change in the collection plate.
God don't like noise.

Speaker 5 (52:40):
Yeah, DoD God. Listen, going to the back. Uh huh, listens.

Speaker 3 (52:51):
You know my mom is sad.

Speaker 4 (52:52):
Now. The church, the church, the church, the church. That's
part of the building fund. The church need new windows.
You ain't gonna tell me church the church. You're not
gonna Oh he need a roll Oh, he need a
he need a jet, Oh he need a rolls runs,
he need a bilet. Yeah, yeah, he ain't gonna have
a pop working harder. He ain't gonna have car to me,

(53:13):
not that I'm doting to.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (53:16):
Hey, well, well, one thing you got to understand that
I've never I've never been I've never been in the
pool pit.

Speaker 5 (53:21):
I've never been a preacher. But I do understand the
work that comes behind it. I do understand the.

Speaker 4 (53:25):
Study and in the hours and all all the stuff
that they have to go through when it comes to
running the church and being a preacher. Now, I'm not
gonna sit up here and preach because that's not me.
I am not finna play with the Lord like that.
But in the Bible with the Lord, hold on, listen
to me. Now, in the Bible it says God loves
a cheerful giver. It doesn't tell you how much you

(53:46):
got to give, though exactly. That's my point that that
that's it. Now, that's the only thing I don't agree with.
Now you ain't fine thea lock them goddamn doors. And
I got to get home and watch the basketball game
because it's March Madness talk about said I gotta keep
you one thousand dollars. The devil is a lie. Now
you're gonna open them doors, and I'm gonna give you
what you kicking what I can. Now, that's what's gonna happen. Oh,
we're gonna have to tussle up here in the church. Yeah,

(54:09):
then God gonna have to come down there and pull
me up off you. He gonna he's gonna have to come.
He's gonna have to come down off his throne because
he's the Alpha.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
And Omega the man that says high and looks low,
so he know I'm gonna be tearing your tail up
in that church if you lock the doors and I
can't get up out of there.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
But I'm saying, come on now, Oh, they they doing
too much. Ojoe.

Speaker 4 (54:34):
He that trip, that trip, dead trip, and it's a
new church.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
I didn't even know.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
I didn't even know pastors was a job, because every
when I grew up, the pastor he was the principal,
he was the janda.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
He came here.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
He wasn't no preacher full time. That wasn't the only
job he had, right, I ain't know, I swear on you,
I did not know that that was a full time job.
I mean, maybe it's just me. Maybe that was just
a Southern thing. What Yeah, I'm like, man, my rafter
was the the wather was a teacher at the school.
Or he was the principal, or he was a custodian,

(55:12):
he was the Bible. Yeah, he did other things. He
wasn't just he just didn't preciate. Maybe not just by
I don't know, maybe not just me.

Speaker 4 (55:20):
Hey, but one thing you gotta think. I'm not sure
if Marvinsaf has a megachurch, but I understand what what
goes into it and when it tails when it comes
to the overhead for a church of that magnitude with
a congress church that yeah, listen, I don't know. I
ain't never been there. I ain't never been there. But
this is not one thing I do. I love some preaching, boy,

(55:41):
I love some preaching that.

Speaker 8 (55:42):
You know.

Speaker 5 (55:42):
Grandma had me in the church, you know, Sunday Wednesday
Bible study.

Speaker 4 (55:47):
I led the choir. You know, I was. I was
in the I was in the junior choir. I was
a junior deacon. I did.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
I'm gonna need to see where they said that in
the Bible.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
And they locked the doors. Not that's not in the Bible. No,
it's not in there.

Speaker 4 (56:02):
That's not in there.

Speaker 5 (56:03):
You know, they rewrite their own story.

Speaker 8 (56:05):
Now.

Speaker 5 (56:06):
Yeah, you know we we we were good for that.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
To show you it used to be salvation was free,
but ministers have found a way to charge for salvation.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
Salvation was free.

Speaker 4 (56:22):
But that's a good one every way.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
Man. They need to stop.

Speaker 4 (56:26):
Look that was that's a good one.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
Now.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
And it's not the fact that it's twenty dollars. It's
the fact that he's put a number on it. You
don't tell somebody what they should give that's between them
and their God, not between the preacher trying to get
money out your pocket.

Speaker 4 (56:42):
Yeah, especially especially during these times.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
I give.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
I ain't got no problem giving, but you don't. He
ain't gonna tell me how much to give. That ain't
got nothing to do with him. Mm, that's between me. Hey,
I'm gonna have to answer no matter what you think
of Shannon Shark, Shannon is gonna have to answer for Shannon. Yeah,
you could say one soul your own, you trying to

(57:07):
tell me what I need to do. I would have
to give an account for this. I would have to
go before that man. In everything. He gonna say you
remember this, You gonna remember you remember that man?

Speaker 3 (57:16):
They need this. I don't. I don't be liking that
though you I don't. I don't listen.

Speaker 4 (57:22):
Listen. I'm with you when you're right.

Speaker 3 (57:24):
I'm with you.

Speaker 4 (57:24):
You're right now. I'm not getting too upset about it
because I've come from the Baptist church.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
You know, I've been there.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
I know what it's like from a loft and from
a low one because I was a senior. Look, I
remember sitting on them, them them benches. We had one benches.
You slide too, much you might get a splinter in
your butt. We didn't have no cushion. We didn't have
no cushion. Any fleet, the elite and well, I mean,
I mean they they revamped it, but it was it

(57:54):
was a church and you felt and you felt the
Lord come in there, not in I got all these
fancy things.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
Lord I ain't coming by here.

Speaker 4 (58:01):
Yeah, yeah, y'all playing y'all, y'all play it in my
name now, hey, y'all will have bas.

Speaker 5 (58:11):
Mm Hey, there was some good days now you now
you got I mean, just you mentioned that video.

Speaker 4 (58:16):
Just bring back memories at church with Grandma and over town,
you know about Overtown right in miam Man Oliver Baptist Church.
I'll never forget Reverend Clark. And I got as I
got my first passor with day was Reverend Clark.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
Real. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (58:29):
Now, as as I got a little older, you know
Miami Northwestern where Teddy Bridgewater just won a national championship. Yeah,
I started walking from my grandma house on forty fourth eleven.
I started walking to new Birth because the new Birth
they they was at Miami Northwestern having church there. And
I started going to see the Honorable Victor T. Curry's

(58:50):
Victor T. Curry and became a part of that church.

Speaker 5 (58:53):
And now they over there in open lock off one
thirty fifth everybody that's a part of New Birth.

Speaker 4 (58:57):
I know you might see this, vig T. Curry. I
hope everything as good.

Speaker 9 (59:00):
I know.

Speaker 4 (59:00):
I ain't been at.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
Church in a while.

Speaker 5 (59:01):
I ain't got no suits, but I love you and
I'm doing I'm doing right, oh Joe.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
But they've been preaching prosperity for the longest time. You
remember the televangelist see Reverend Ike, and they had Jimmy Swagger,
and they had and they Jimmy Jimmy yeah, Hey yeah, oh,
and Jimmy Swagger got hup there.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
Tell my father, I'm seeing you.

Speaker 4 (59:22):
I'm saying hey, but I'm saying y'all remember Rex Hombard.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
It was Jimmy Swagger, Rex Hombard.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
Reverend Night went the first one because Reverend Ike was
having you put five dollars and send it in for
the prayer.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
Clack.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
I don't know if y'all remember that, but I've been
before your time, chat. But I'm old enough to remember.
That's one thing about being old, and once you get
to a certain age, you realize that's your only purpose
left to do is to get old.

Speaker 4 (59:47):
Man.

Speaker 3 (59:48):
They better stop playing me.

Speaker 4 (59:49):
Hey man, hey, hey hey, that was classic God damn
Jimmy sweat.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
I remember.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Yeah, that's like I said, Look, I give Lord, no
you bless me, and I don't have no I don't
have no problem.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
Not only do I give to the church if people
in need.

Speaker 4 (01:00:15):
Yeah, that's me. Hey, I just have people in the
wildfires that that that happened in California.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
Yesa Shannon. Hey, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
Me and my mom My mom ain't got nowhere to go, Shannon, right,
I get your I get your place for a couple
of months.

Speaker 4 (01:00:34):
It is.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
That's the way my my grandmother would give people her
last I'm like, why you came to my dad?

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
Ain't got nothing to eat? Hell, you know we can.
We're gonna be okay.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
We got some ruder beggars, and you know we can
make some crack li, but no, let them make rudeger
give them.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
What we're gonna eat. Then we could go to the
superpark and we get mot dogs.

Speaker 4 (01:01:03):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
But that's how Now how Mary Porter was she say? Son,
you know, hey, one day God will bless you. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:01:11):
Hey, let's she.

Speaker 5 (01:01:14):
Really truly believed in that, right, hold on, I believe
in that and always have.

Speaker 4 (01:01:21):
You know. You remember remember when I used to do
do the tipping, do the tipping all the time, and
I would put proverbs shirt the generous person will always
I start stopped doing it because I kind of got
in trouble because people seeing me do that and again
the others, so they complaining, well, why you're not sending
more to me if you got extra to give the
strangers at So I just stopped doing it all together,

(01:01:42):
you know. So anyway, but.

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
That's that's the same thing. Oh Joe, when we gave
to a Southern why did you say, ro bro? Come on?

Speaker 4 (01:01:51):
Man?

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, man, what about A and T?
What about this?

Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
Yeah? Yeah, So it's it's I thought, foremost Savannah State
gets my underboded attention. They first on the list, right
no matter what. Yeah, absolutely, And I love HBCUs. I matriculated, Yeah,
I got a degree from Savannah State. But first and foremost,
I'm here sitting in this seat because a lot of

(01:02:18):
people at Savannah State. Haynes Walton, Norman Aylmore, Claire Baynes,
George McLamore, Joanne Green, Steve Smith, Gay Hewitt.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
They believed in me. Yeah, they believed in me. So man, please,
But I've always been like that on Joe. I've always
you know, when I got money, I used to go
back and and and tithes and and make sure my grandma.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
Oh, give me something to put into church. I give
my grandma.

Speaker 4 (01:02:55):
You know who?

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
You want me to put all this in church? You say,
get you something to put in church.

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
You ain't gotta put it all there. Keep some fast
healf you ain't gotta put it all of them. But
you say, give you something to put in church? You
want to put it all over there?

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
I can't.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
You know, your baby gonna take care of you. Granty,
You're gonna get some mooke. But yeah, man, they gotta man,
they gotta day. I just don't like.

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
I just don't like preaching prosperity. I don't. Yeah, I'm
coming for the word and so so.

Speaker 4 (01:03:23):
Now if I don't give you a thousand dollars on
you fit, the God ain't gonna bless me. Noah, God
said again. Now it's that five final sigma of the evening.
It's time for Q and damn joy. I enjoyed the night,
but the night was I was a doe. That was
a bo uh.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Ragna Cows four said, Oh, you gotta blame JJ for that.
JJ wasn't on the court. JJ didn't tell Lebron to gamble.
JJ didn't tell Lebron to turn the ball over. They
had a five point lead with twelve seconds, they had
a two point lead. They ended up they ended up

(01:04:05):
being down by one with six seconds, They had to
lead with three seconds and the team didn't have a timeout.

Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
That ain't on JJ.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
Brow Yeah, Lebron, James, Bonnie James, Bryce, James Bulls and
five great air with Lebron should focus on winning games
instead of picking fights with reporters. He's hurting the team
right now. He's hurting his team right now. Well, obviously

(01:04:33):
it wasn't a good look. I look like I said, I.
We don't need to get into it. There was a
more discussion, Steven, They had more to say. I don't
care to add anything. I don't have anything to add
to it. But I think hopefully both of them decided
to leave this alone and move forward. Lebron needed to
focus on these last nine games and trying to get
the best seed he possibly can for the Lakers. Don't
worry about what Steven They said, Steven ain't gonna talk.

(01:04:56):
That's stephen A's job. But hey, now let's focus on
what we need to focus on. Derrick John said, Hey,
are you going to first take tomorrow defend the ghost?

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
I mean, go no, hell no, I'm Monday Tuesday. Your job.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
If your job, you show up on your day off
to what. I don't know where to do that. I
don't Monday Tuesday. Now, it's normally in the tenor like
you know, during uh the follow Joe, we went to
uh HBC, you had the AGBC tour, but that was

(01:05:30):
already implemented.

Speaker 4 (01:05:31):
He ain't coming on on my day off. This my
day off, and plus I already got something on the schedule.

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
They don't. I already got something to book right. Oh yo,
you're gonna be mad.

Speaker 4 (01:05:41):
Oh you what we're happening? Because I'm going to SPA
with somebody tomorrow like spar like you don't spark? Where
you gonna who are gonna start with?

Speaker 6 (01:05:55):
Don't wear that?

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
Hey? Wait?

Speaker 4 (01:06:02):
Are you you?

Speaker 6 (01:06:03):
You know who you who?

Speaker 4 (01:06:04):
You've got? Who you've got for club? Shake Shay is
it is a fighter?

Speaker 5 (01:06:11):
The champ is here you heard me, uh you interviewing
a fighter? Yeah, which one?

Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
The champ is here?

Speaker 4 (01:06:21):
What do you want here? The champion at one undisputed? Oh,
tell him fight me then I can get down to
one forty seven right now?

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
You heard me? Yea, what you think.

Speaker 4 (01:06:46):
Undisputed? Undisputed? Champ at one forty seven?

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
Yeah, we go. That's all right, We're good. Yeah, h
h h I turned up over. You gotta turn that
thing over.

Speaker 4 (01:07:02):
Yeah, Hey, you got hey, Hey, you got hang the
phone up, man, you got to hang the phone. Your
young now, you're not my You're not Mike Tyson. Get
you get your hands up, man, get your get your
hands up.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
Hey, I put that George Forman. You said that, George Forman?
That yeah, and that was funny.

Speaker 4 (01:07:25):
Yeah, the champ is still, the champ is still. I'm
a turn that thing over, Joe. Yeah, okay, you gotta.

Speaker 5 (01:07:37):
Keep keep the elbow up, man, keep you gotta keep
your elbow up on the hook.

Speaker 4 (01:07:40):
Hey, but I also got to keep the fat hey,
because you keep that thing too out there banging the ribs.
Oh yeah, oh yeah, that's why you got You gotta
tuck in. You gotta tuck in real comfortable. But hey, hey,
you gotta get a don't give them that squirt shot.
You gotta turn that angle put that can't give you
a full shot.

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
All of them to.

Speaker 4 (01:07:55):
Say, Hey, I'm gonna tea I'm gonna teach you everything.
Everything you talking about. You're gonna see me do against James.

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
I feel that thing off joant to bring you back.

Speaker 4 (01:08:09):
Yeah, you got to give me a little extension on
them things too. Now, you know, don't shot no show,
don't short change me. Hey see what I fucked it
when I fucked that jab? That jab like now found Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah,
there you go. Yeah I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
Yeah, the champ is here. Hey, I got some rails
gloves too, you know the rails who you can fear
your uncle through the fans.

Speaker 4 (01:08:39):
See, but you know I got them.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
I uh like what I what I was, I was
doing that mess. Uh, I was, you know, doing a
little bit of it. Then my health got too bad.
That's hurt, too bad. I had some wedding I had
wedding uh practice gloves.

Speaker 4 (01:08:55):
Yeah, that's all.

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
That's all.

Speaker 4 (01:08:56):
I got. Got a bunch of winning stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:08:58):
A matter of fact, whoever you interview tomorrow telling him.

Speaker 4 (01:09:01):
I said, let's smart. At one forty seven, I will
call you. I mean, whoever it is, I probably got
en nothing on my phone and just I mean you
say un disputed at one forty seven, I probably already
beat him up, honestly, Uh real, Carter said, Stephen, ain't
chick fil A. Don't care how much luke away lagas

(01:09:21):
are five? Uh turn as g said, what's the Steeler's
ceiling if they signed Rogers? Oh Joe, what's the ceiling?
I mean, listen, I don't know what the ceiling is.
I have no idea. I know what Roger can do.
I know what he did in the past. I know
what we saw from matter jests. I'm not sure what
Rogers are we gonna get. I'll be gonna get to

(01:09:42):
Aaron Rodgers that's brought in. Are we gonna get to
Aaron Rodgers that shows up the mini camp or we
gonna get to Aaron Rodgers that goes on a dark retreat.

Speaker 6 (01:09:50):
It all depends on what Aaron Rodgers you get.

Speaker 4 (01:09:52):
True, are you bought in?

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
Are you actually bought in?

Speaker 4 (01:09:59):
You ain't got the leverage used to have before nine,
And it's a different ball game. They only go as
far as he goes.

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
What are you gonna say?

Speaker 4 (01:10:08):
I was gonna say, they only go they only go
as far. Every team is only going as far as
the quarterback goes. You're only going as far as your
quarterback is invested. And how serious are you going to
take his craft and job? Uh?

Speaker 8 (01:10:30):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
What is the likelihood of owners or what is the
percentage of owners gems executive that actually listen to the
listen and get invited from sports anily shows and people
that talk sports?

Speaker 4 (01:10:50):
What did you think none is that?

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
I'll tell you what. If you listen to them, gay,
listen to the fans, pretty soon you be right up
there with them. Yeah, listen to the GMS and and
and and people in that football operations that listen to
people that talk.

Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
Pretty soon you right there next to her.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
Former general manager of this team, former former player personnel
of this team.

Speaker 6 (01:11:18):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:11:21):
Uh? Jay two one three said, hey, yo, please rank
these music videos. M J.

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
Thriller. You rock my world? Remember the time?

Speaker 4 (01:11:29):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
And I rock with you for me?

Speaker 8 (01:11:32):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:11:32):
Thriller? Uh remember the time?

Speaker 4 (01:11:38):
Do you read? Thriller is definitely first? Yeah, thriller number one.
Thriller might be the best video all time. Do you
remember the time. That's number two for me, which is
the one with with Eddie Murphy and all the minute.

Speaker 3 (01:11:55):
That's you remember the time?

Speaker 5 (01:11:57):
Okay, yeah, that that's that's definitely number two.

Speaker 4 (01:12:02):
I go, you know what, I rocked? My world is
three and rock with you four h On night Doctor
Frankie L.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
Bellamy said fam Nightcap, closing on the two million subs
on Club shad Share almost four million. That's just not content,
that's culture, not just views. That's a vision congratuation Shade
media with an accomplishment. Thank you, doctor Frankie. Hey Man,
hey ess just headed out the park for us.

Speaker 8 (01:12:31):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
She was unbelievable. Yeah, he's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
And I'm just trying to figure out people talking about
ain't nobody to watch Ambrose on YouTube did about four
million views? Andrew shows did about did about four million
views for nobody to watch them?

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
Yeah? How many people?

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
How many people that sit down and have conversation with
people on YouTube do four million views?

Speaker 5 (01:12:55):
You can't listen to people, man, I don't I don't listen.

Speaker 3 (01:12:58):
No, I don't like this.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Oh you gotta come on, you gotta come into the
comments to say you ain't gonna watch this video.

Speaker 4 (01:13:05):
But you in the comments, you know what on Joe?
And one more thing, I want two words to be
retired in twenty five. What's that diabolical?

Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
And messy?

Speaker 4 (01:13:18):
Messy?

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
Messy because every time Shannon going to the store, man,
you know, Shannon so messy? Man, Oh Joe kin o
Joe was talking about No boy, they Shannon so messy
and that's oh that's diabolical.

Speaker 4 (01:13:32):
Okay, yeah, listen, only only messy. Listen. The only messy
I recognize is maya diabolical. I ain't never really heard that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
Man, that's all that bad man Old Joe talking about
told diabolical.

Speaker 9 (01:13:48):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
I'm like, I'm like, hold on any time.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
There have been so many people that have the guests
that I've had on and ask them the very same
questions that I asked. Everything is fine. Nothing the minute
you ask is a problem. I'm messy.

Speaker 6 (01:14:16):
And paulse.

Speaker 3 (01:14:19):
Boy, we paused, Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
We used to hey, oh Joe, you remember we used
to be able to talk Yoe, cause you know we're talking,
were talking, were talking, right, Man.

Speaker 3 (01:14:28):
I I was like, man, I just I just don't
get it. But Doc, I thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
It's the look and all the people that's pausing and
and diabolical and messy. Y'all ain't really support not Joe
and that anyway, y'all just coming and hoping somebody tag along.
Y'all want somebody because there are a lot of followers
on social media, O Joe, Yeah, yeah, followers. I think Jeff.
I think Jeff. Jeff was unbelievable. Uh Amber was great,

(01:15:01):
Young Miami was great, and you shows. I like having
different people. If all I had was football players, if
all I had was comedians, if all I had was
any one group of things, how do you grow? How
do you expand the platform? I'm confused, y'all do realize
we're trying to expand, right when you go back and

(01:15:24):
look at talk shows that used to be and they're
not just made it now. But when you go back
and look at Phil Donnish and you look at Oprah,
you look at Ricky Lake, and you look at Jenny Jones,
and you look at all those they had.

Speaker 3 (01:15:34):
Different people all the time.

Speaker 4 (01:15:37):
Yeah, you have to have that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
That's how you grow, That's how you expand.

Speaker 4 (01:15:43):
Yeah, but I think the background they different backgrounds, different,
different ethnicities, you gotta have.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
You got to have that, Hey, and young Mahavior. Hey,
oh man, man man ro. I ain't never asking nobody,
I ain't got nobody. No, we just we have a
great time. I go with how they go. Hey, Young
Miami was flowing. We're gonna flow, Ammaron's flowing. We're gonna flow.
Cast do, We're gonna flow. We're gonna flow. Certain people
they want to keep it strictly, We're gonna keep it

(01:16:12):
that right. But I think the whole thing is to
make people feel comfortable when they come on that they're
having a conversation, that they open up.

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
That's all I'm trying to do. I ain't trying to hey,
hey man, up shooting the shot? No, can't shooting no shot?
Come on now, I mean, come on, how that's gonna look.
I'm bringing somebody on there to try to shoot a shot? Right, Hell,
I'm just standing in the DM and not even my problem.
Hold that's what but people think like that's what y'all
would do. See, y'all would be in pretty soon. You

(01:16:43):
wouldn't have a talk, you wouldn't have a conversation, you
wouldn't have a pod. The one thing I won't do
if Martin Porter told me is when I'm very young.
As you said, boy will never put your dick in
your wallet. And when I told people that, people like
what that means. I said, you figure out, don't worry
about it. I'm to write that down right now. H

(01:17:08):
d Chat said, ukin O Joe. Is my wife's birthday today?
Can you guys please give Casey a shout out? Even
though we're beefing, I still love her. Thanks God, he
happy birthday, Casey put that side d Chat.

Speaker 4 (01:17:22):
Just for the back, Hey, Luther vand George, you just say,
if only for one night, it's your birthday.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
Hey, y'all go back to bet be like Tommy Jerry. Hey,
y'all can beef tomorrow, but tonight, put all that aside
and do right by your man. That's all you gotta do.

Speaker 3 (01:17:44):
Just give it. Just just it's good. I mean, come
on now, it can't be that bad. Deffu the chef.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
Said, what's the one thing you wish you knew about
love in your twenties that you understand now?

Speaker 3 (01:17:57):
What's more important a partner? Lordy?

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
Peace and passion, Peace, loyalty, because if she gives me
lawal to I'll be at peace.

Speaker 4 (01:18:08):
Man, peace. I ain't trying to hear that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:11):
Oh you all peace?

Speaker 4 (01:18:13):
Man?

Speaker 3 (01:18:13):
Peace if somebody be here and somebody beating your walls
down while you in peace?

Speaker 4 (01:18:17):
Okay, man, she not even with me. That's why I
God damn peace. So I don't care who you beating
them down? Shit, you ain't mad, that's her. That's your responsibility.

Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
But I ain't talking about your situation. Oh no, I
talk about mom. I'm just saying what I'm saying in general.

Speaker 4 (01:18:30):
He said, peace. That's that's the piece. Since when do
you have peace if you have someone in your space? You?

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
Yes, that's what you were supposed to have. O't Joe
that when we never get it, don't mean you stop looking?
Don't you stop searching.

Speaker 5 (01:18:48):
I'm good.

Speaker 4 (01:18:49):
Oh I'm good Now I got peace now.

Speaker 3 (01:18:54):
Sir Kase said My guys.

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
Two questions, Oh yo, I know it's early, but what
are your early predictions of who will win people work
up twenty two? Uh? Ken the US win it? And
oh Sterling versus o Cho? Who is the ex Who's disease?
My brother played di z Ocho was an X. My
brother played Di z Jered. My brother played di z

(01:19:16):
They played di z Posistion. Uh who you got out
your World Cup twenty twenty six.

Speaker 4 (01:19:25):
That would be a going boy. I mean, I mean
I would love USA. I would love the USA to
get get get a little further than normal. I'm excited
to see with what they're able to do. But it's
it's going to be very very difficult, very difficult for
us looking at some of the qualifying games they played

(01:19:47):
so far, uh not dominating against inferior And I mean
no disrespect, but how are we gonna compete with the
Argentinas and the Brazils and the and in the Francis
And I just and I don't know. So as far
as a favorite now, Argentina is probably a favorite to win. Yeah,
yet again along with some long with some mother squads,

(01:20:09):
So I don't know. France.

Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
Maybe to go back to the question, he says, what
do I wish I knew? I knew what I needed
to know. Mm hmm, But I was so driven mm hmm.

(01:20:36):
I didn't really I didn't think I could do two things.
I didn't think I could o Joe because the one
woman that I knew loved me unconditionally was Mary Porter.
No matter what I did, no matter what I did,

(01:20:58):
she said baby, you were wrong, but I love you.
She didn't love me on the conditions that I didn't cheat.
She didn't love me on the condition that I didn't
hurt her. She didn't love me on.

Speaker 4 (01:21:09):
The conditions that I was in a bad mood and
I didn't want to talk. She loved me unconditionally. Come on,
I And so for me, I was searching for that
and not realizing that I was never gonna achieve that,
and there were conditions on which my partner was.

Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
Going to love me always. So it made it very
very easy for me to stay focused on what I
needed to focus on. But here apologized for that. O yo, Yeah,
remember what I always told you.

Speaker 4 (01:21:41):
That all comes down to also being able to manage
your expectations with understanding that everything comes with conditions where
everybody's was easy for everybody to be loyal when it's
convenient and beneficial.

Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
Hell yes, virtual says, it's a low bar. Yeah, about
to gonna love somebody that's making millions. It's either love
somebody that's making either because you know what a man,
you know what the man talk, not a man, not
ill man.

Speaker 4 (01:22:08):
It was a man and his wife. And she said, challon,
it's just as easy to love a rich man as
it is a broke one. Come on, now, come on,
don't let that go over, y'all. Head, come on now,
so all this, all this, y'all talking.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
Oh, cheating this and that, it's just as either for
you to love me or pretend that you love me
for the situation that I can lift you up out of.

Speaker 4 (01:22:34):
I'm listen, I'm acting like I'm in the church. I'm
gonna go ahead, and I'm gonna go ahead and exit,
exit stage left.

Speaker 3 (01:22:43):
Well, y'all, hey, hey, hey, what we offering? Play that?

Speaker 4 (01:22:47):
Because I ay, I see your fifty two hundred right now,
because you're preaching.

Speaker 3 (01:22:51):
You heard me? I am going to find me someone.
Come on, Oh you done got ah? Now you done
got old? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:23:02):
I got old and I got my money I got.
I'd have been young and then got with the wrong one.
I'd have been old with no money.

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
It ain't got nobody to take care of me now,
at least like if I could pay somebody to come
take care of me, do for myself.

Speaker 3 (01:23:16):
That is.

Speaker 4 (01:23:18):
That is were you were You were cutting? Were you
cutting up in there the show tonight? Were that was?

Speaker 5 (01:23:27):
That wasn't number but the word.

Speaker 4 (01:23:31):
That wasn't number the word.

Speaker 3 (01:23:34):
Uh huh.

Speaker 2 (01:23:36):
Oh man, My former teammate, Rodney Spivey, Rodney Arnold, Rodney
Irvin Arnold.

Speaker 3 (01:23:45):
How you changing name?

Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
Nineteen sixty seven from Myrtle beach Man. We got the
Savannah state together. Oh Joe, the guy that's uh And
as a matter of fact, he was so he came
to Minnesota my.

Speaker 3 (01:24:03):
First This was in nineteen ninety one. He came and
saw me play in Minnesota. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think his wife
might have been from Minnesota. But he had a I
remember he came. He had a red irock.

Speaker 4 (01:24:18):
Z uh huh.

Speaker 3 (01:24:19):
I remember that five percent hold on t top? Yeah Red,
I talk about candy candy red. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:24:30):
Yeah, I had a tea top. I had the ierock
on the side. But I wouldn't send my thoughts and
prayers out to his family. Rest in peace, fivey and
to all the family, friends, the loved one that's been
impacted by this second, this sad passing of my former
teammate and friend, Rodney's Rodney Rest in p bro sc

(01:24:51):
mission Man t FI t FI always.

Speaker 3 (01:24:57):
Mm hm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:25:02):
Alabama Cook Them Boys. Mark series is brunts and two
point zero. Yeah think he made like did he make
like ten threes? They made like twenty still anyway like
twenty five?

Speaker 3 (01:25:16):
Wow? That's it o Jo.

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