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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, so we are back on the Way Cosset
presented by the Ring. It's midnight, and it's been a
long day. I've been in Los Angeles recording with the
MMA Casuals. I just announced that I will be on
Misfits Boxing on August thirtieth doing commentary for the good
folks over at Misfits and today the story that has
just boggled my mind it's been going on for the
(00:20):
last couple of days, is the entire Daniel dou Baiss situation.
And the story is rightfully, for the most part, been
about Alexander Usik once again becoming the undisputed heavyweight champion
of the world. Second time he's done that. Third time
he's become undisputed between cruiser and heavyweight, one of the
greatest of all time, certainly the greatest heavyweight of this generation.
That should be the story, point blank, period loox under
(00:42):
Usik wins and retains and becomes once again undisputed. Well
as in most sports, that usually is the lead story,
but then there's the speculation and the rumor and the
theory and then conspiracy and maybe in some cases to
the underlying story, which is what I'm gonna talk about
(01:03):
today Daniel Dubois in the situation surrounding his fight day
and his fight night. What do I mean the breakdown?
Let's go all right? So, for those that don't know,
or maybe you do, I did a lot of research
on Daniel Dubois today and I found out he's one
of eleven children, that he was mostly homeschooled as a child,
and that his father, Stanley or I guess otherwise known
(01:24):
as Dave I think Davis's real name goes by Stanley,
not really sure, was pretty much the reason that Daniel
Dubois became a box According to some stuff I've read,
it goes all the way back to before Daniel was born,
and that his father had a vision that Daniel was
going to be a world champion boxer and trained him
to be that from the age of like four or five.
(01:44):
These training sessions, even when he was four or five
years old, would be pretty strenuous, to the point where
Daniel Dubois had to do workouts that included him finishing
the workout before food was even served at some point.
And I'm only presenting this to you because Daniel Dubois,
who is twenty seven years old now again is a
grown man. We'll get to that in a second, but
I'm giving you this information to show you that Daniel
(02:05):
dubas father is a massive part of his life. You
could argue the biggest part of his life even to
this day, outside and inside a box. So it may
not come as a surprise when I tell you that
Daniel Dubos's father, who does have a massive influence on him,
made some very odd decisions that potentially affected Daniel Dubois's
ability to fight on Saturday night. And again, before I
(02:28):
even start talking about this, I'm gonna let you know
I don't think that anything we're going to say was
going to effectively change the outcome of Saturday's fight between
Daniel Dubois and Alexander Usik. I think Usik was going
to beat Daniel Dubis no matter what shape or form
or outside of the ring stuff happened to him and
he showed up in Daniel Dubas got in a ring
(02:49):
with Usik one hundred times, I think Usik would probably
beat him ninety nine to one hundred times. That's how
good I believe Alexander Usik is. Now that I've given
my respect to both Daniel and Alexander Usik. I just
want to talk about how stupid people that are around
boxers can be, and I mean that one hundred percent. Stupidity, selfishness,
and ego find their ways into famous athletes camps all
(03:14):
the time. But Saturday was a particular level of stupid
from the man that, like I said a second ago,
influences Daniel Dubois the most, his own father. Let's take
a look. This is by Daily Mail and it is
an article that entails a couple of different things happening.
Daniel Dubois had to quote walk into Wembley after chaotic
journey involving Dad's party and accreditation nightmare before brutal ko
(03:39):
by Alexander Usik. Before we get into the walking part,
which is just insanity, let's start with the part that
was the topical news story as we came into Fight day.
Ladies and gentlemen. This is Daniel Dubois mere hours before
he is about to fight Alexander Usik, and you can
tell because he's wearing the same shirt he entered the
(04:00):
building in on Saturday night, the nighty faud Usik. Let's
take a look at this video. See Daniel looks and
he's smiling, looks like he's having a good time. And listen,
we'll get to Daniel's responsibility in this thing in a
little bit. But like I said, smiling, having a good
time right, a ton of people around them. I think
maybe he's entering the building somewhere. I don't know why
(04:22):
there is a DMX cosplayer a part of the venue here.
I don't know who this man is and why his
teeth look like a saloon door opening up. But listen,
no one's paying you to play DMX at their birthday party.
Buddy Bounce, come, come well again. You see here, and
(04:43):
we're probably gonna get demonetized by keep letting it play.
But look at all these people guys wearing a Los
Angeles Angels hat in the middle of London. I guess
it fits the fake Ralph Lauren. But as you can see,
there are a ton of people gathered at Daniel dubois house. Again,
we talked about Daniel Dubois and how he was raised.
Andy Duba still lives at his parents' house at twenty
(05:06):
seven years of age. You know Duboi was homeschool. If
you've watched Daniel speak in public, there's a clear delineation
from social interactions and the way that he approaches conversations
and how he responds to question. I'm not going to
make accusations on a man's personal life, but from what
I can see, Daniel Dubaugh does seem to struggle with
(05:27):
a lot of social interactions. So knowing that and the
fact that he has not been formally schooled, that he's
schooled by his father, protected by his father, raised by
his father, why on God's green earth would his father
or anybody on their team think that this is a
good idea to have. Well, as again, you'll see here
dozens upon dozens of people just around Daniel at his
(05:51):
house with music blaring, people having drinks. It's a party.
It is a party. And I know what Don Charles
got on talkSPORT yesterday and said it was a gathering,
not a part. Bullshit. A bunch of people that had
no business being at that house, by the way, a
bunch of people that Daniel Dubas didn't even seem to
know as according to Actually the report was done by
The Times. I apologize as I'm gonna read an excerpt
(06:12):
here from this article. It states a few hours earlier
in the opposing locker room. The contrast could hardly have
been starker. Daniel Dubois had not arrived to Wembley until
eight twenty pm on Saturday, less than ninety minutes before
he was due to make his ring walk. Again, We'll
get to the party, but just the interlude to that.
(06:33):
You have an hour and a half before you're about
to make your walk. And I'm not saying you have
to be at the venue all day, but every sports
event I've ever been at, I'm not there an hour
and a half before the game starts, because that's usually
when we're about to let the fans in. You know,
the people that are gonna sit there and watch you
do your thing, not the people that are going to
actually go and fight each other. The warm up, the
(06:54):
acclamation process, being there grounded with your team, the warm up,
every thing needs to be planned out, and it's not
usually planned out for you to get there, try to
warm up and then make your walk, all in the
matter of ninety minutes before you're about to do it.
That point of consternation gave way to a mad cap
fight day, when Stanley hosted a party for dozens of
(07:16):
his friends. Notice Stanley Dua's dad hosted a party for
dozens of his friend at the family mansion in Essex,
where Daniel still lives in the afternoon. Source claims Dubois,
a reclusive character despite the spotlight of the profession his
father guided him toward, did not know all of the
(07:37):
guests well and left at one stage for a drive.
So let me get this straight. The father that puts
so much important into teaching discipline to his son, so
much importance into keeping him away from the public guys,
so much important into controlling every aspect of his life.
I mean, from what everything I've been reading here seems,
(07:58):
decides to put his son, who was clearly not great
again in social interactions around the father's friends, not even
the son's friends, to the point where Daniel himself gets
so uncomfortable on the day of his fight with so
many people around that he has to get in the
car and drive around just to get away from that
and keep himself locked in or keep his mind at ease.
(08:21):
We thought that was a winning strategy. And before the
people start in the comments section or wherever telling me
they did this for the aj fight, Wade, I heard that.
I heard that story when this started coming out that
this is what they did for the AJ fight, and
you don't rock the boat if it's working. I'm sorry.
Exceptions do not make the rule, just because here chaos happens,
and Daniel is such a good boxer and rose to
(08:43):
the occasion when the AJ fight happened, and despite all
of these things, these these weirdo distractions that no one
in his position should be subjected to, especially with his
demeanor and his personality, despite all of that, he's able
to succeed. Doesn't mean that's a formula for success. It
means that Daniel dah on that night against AJ was
great in spite of all the bullshit that happened to him,
(09:04):
either the week of or day. Because I heard that
clip from Don Charles on Talksports today talking about well
if it ain't broke, don't fix it, or that's the
same formula we've been using and not saying this for everybody,
but it works for us. Clearly, Yeah, clearly works because
he won the AJ fight. Absolutely moronic to think that's
the formula for success. I'm just I'm fired up because
(09:25):
it frustrates me. Clearly, Daniel's dad has an important role
in this entire thing because he's put himself in control
of everything and decides to, I don't know, do whatever
this is on the day of his son's fight, knowing
it's the biggest fight of his life. It's just mind
boggling to me that this can happen Daniel du Watts
any professional. But we're not done yet, Let's keep going.
(09:46):
The source claims their departure was delayed after Stanley requested
extra people carriers to bring his entourage to the venue.
He then drove Daniel to the venue himself, which caused
another administrative issue as only the designated vehicles had been accredited.
They then walked to the stadium entrance on foot from
(10:06):
the car park, but a video clip shows Stanley calling
Daniel towards the door after security attempted to prevent some
of his friends from entering. The source alleges Stanley essentially
told them Daniel would not proceed without them. Again, this
is just a one side source claiming this, But it
doesn't seem like there'd be a need to lie about
(10:27):
something like this, and there's pretty excruciating detail for someone
to lie about. But not only does Daniel's dad stage
a party hours before, not like in the morning. Hey, everybody,
thanks for coming up hours before the fight is meant
to be scheduled in an environment Daniel is so unfamiliar
with and he's clearly not comfortable in to the point
where Daniel himself asked his father to leave and drive
(10:48):
around for a bit. Then they come back. They're further
delayed because Stanley needs his entire entourage, again, not Daniel's entourage,
not the actual world champions entourage. The dad of the
world champion needs to be escorted to the venue by
the service vehicles that are supposed to escort Daniel Duboi
to the venue. Father all controlling takes Daniel duba to
(11:09):
the venue, just him and Daniel a part like where
the fans park and walk to the front door of
the stadium, and then Daniel is going to get finally
in his dressing room, and he's called back to the
front by his dad so that his dad can essentially
tell the people work in the gate. But if they
don't let this entourage of Daniel's dad in, that Daniel
Dubois himself will not be fighting on the night. Excuse me,
(11:31):
what an absolute load of shit. I don't have any
words for how nonsensical, selfish, and ego driven Daniel Dubah Staniel,
That's what I called him. Because it's midnight here. Stanley
Duboin is in this situation, making it all about him
when his son all the things he taught his son,
(11:52):
all the things they sacrifice, all the things Daniel sacrificed
and listen to his father for throughout his life to
get to that point, trusting his father and his father
putting him in the worst position possible in the day
he's supposed to go and fight. And yes, I'm making
a big deal about this, and again I don't think
that it ultimately would have changed what Usik was going
(12:13):
to do to Daniel Dubois on Saturday night, because Usick
is an all time great. Just like I said in
my video a couple of days ago, Daniel Dubois started
the fight. Okay, did what I think he was supposed
to do, to try to at least mix this fight
up a little bit and have some modicum of success.
The problem is it didn't matter. It didn't matter what
Daniel Dubois did on that night. Usick is just better
(12:36):
in every aspect of fighting. It's us He beats everyone,
but it's not even about that. It's about the preparation.
It's about the mindset of the people around Daniel Dubois
that allowed this kind of stuff to happen, to not
put him in the best position possible, his mindset in
just the scheduling and all these external things happening that
(12:56):
he either has to deal with or he's part of,
or he's trying to get away from. Again, I hate
doing this because I've only I don't I'm not a
world champion fighter. I never will be having experience it
on that level, and I don't understand any of to
that degree. But even me one little fight that I've
had and it was on misfit, my coach bj Flores,
my best friend since and my cutman, Jacob Chavez, even
(13:17):
my girlfriend, my mother would not allow me when I
was in Manchester be putting in an environment that I
was not familiar with, wasn't comfortable in, was gonna put
more stress on me before I even fought. Anything that
happened to me during fight week was handled by my
team and it wasn't even brought to me. All it
was for me to do is to be there for
my training sessions, be there for my weight cut and
(13:37):
be there ready to go in the positions I need to.
I definitely wasn't driven to the venue by my coach.
We were taken in the vans and the places and
the things that were provided from misfits from the zone
to make sure things ran in an orderly fashion. And
guess what I could focus on my fight, and that's
at the influencer boxing level, not the undisputed heavyweight championship
of the world. That's utterly ridiculous. Where Daniel Duwat is
(14:01):
currently to me is a struggle between whether he wants
to box for him, or he wants to be world
champion for him, whether he still enjoys and loves this sport,
or whether he's doing what his father is telling him
to do, because that is what has always been and
his goal has been his father's goal for him, because
that was what's always been. And I think Tony Bellue
said it best, and we're going to play his excerpt
(14:22):
here from talkSPORT when he talked about Daniel Dubois and
what happened after the second USIK knockdown. Listen, he took
two big time shots back to back in that same round,
and it didn't look good for Daniel Dubois. I mean,
I don't know how many times that you know people
that are saying he quit, how many times it would
take for them to feel like the fight was over
because he was getting battered, the mouthpiece came out, he
(14:44):
got tagged with the left hand, so and yeah, and
most of them are pro boxer saying this, so I'll
take their word for it. But the point I'm trying
to make is regardless whether you think he quit or
had more in the tank and just didn't want to
get up, the question I want to ask is why
and what's next? Here's Tony Bellue.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
I feel so starty for Daniel because I just think
he's allowed who's show regimented in his ways. He gets
into fantastic shape, he's a proper machine, guys, and he's
he's had a really good career. But I just think
the question needs to be asked, why are you what?
Who are you boxing for? Why are you doing this?
And is it to impress someone? Is it to get
(15:21):
on the on the good sides, I don't know what
it is because he ain't fighting for money, guys. The
boys financially security financis secured a long time. I hope
to be totally honest, and I know that matter fact.
So you have to ask why is it? Because when
he gets into these really hard moments in fights, that's
when the real Daniel comes out, and the real Daniel
(15:42):
doesn't want to fight.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
That's when the real Daniel comes out and the real
Daniel doesn't want to fight. I don't know how much
Tony Bellue is close with Daniel. I'm not sure. And
he has had some really tough moments, the Duoir first fight,
the Joe Joyce fight, this fight, but then he's also
had tough moments. He's come through, right, He's come through
some tough moments in his career, notably the the AJ fight.
Even though he was winning that fight, he had a
moment there where AJ could have turned the tide and
(16:05):
Daniel said no. I guess that leads me back to
the point of this entire video is that Daniel Dubins
in this situation has to make a decision. And honestly,
Daniel Dubi right now needs to be an adult. He
is twenty seven years old, and I understand the dynamic
is not a normal one with him and his father
and his career and his upbringing and everything, but he
(16:25):
needs to decide what it is he wants, right because
Daniel Duoaugh has some physical gifts, and he's twenty seven
years old and he's still you know, hasn't maybe even
hit his prime as a heavyweight boxer. Still can take
this loss. And I've been a big proponent of the
O doesn't meet as much as you guys think can
be a very very good heavyweight boxer. There's still so
(16:47):
many good fights out there for it. But he has
to want to do it. And honestly, you know, from
the outsider perspective, this is easy for me to say,
but he has to grow up a little bit because
I do fully blame his father for the decisions his
father made on fight day, the party getting to the venue,
the driving there, the trying to threaten security with my
son's not going to fight tonight, that the trying to
(17:08):
coach over Don Charles in the corner, just a pure chaos,
an ego trip of whatever this has been. For how
long it's been going on. I say it's the AJ fight,
maybe it's even before that, but this clearly doesn't work,
and why would it. It's absolute nonsense to think that
that kind of chaos on fight day, let alone what's
going on before fight day. This is just the day
(17:29):
of that doesn't work. Daniel Dubois he needs to in
this moment, and he probably should have then put his
foot down as a grown man and say, dad, this
is not your career. It's because it's pretty clear to
me Stanley Dubois is living vicariously through his son, having
parties on behalf of his son before the sun even
goes and accomplishes the goal. Because look look what I created.
(17:51):
He's right there, Look what I did. I made this. No,
Daniel Dubois made him what he is, and youal Duba,
put that work in. And I'm not trying to take
anything away personally from Daniel's dad and the situation and
again the love they have and the relationship and all
of that. I'm sure Daniel's dad is a fantastic dad
and raised him to be a great man and all
(18:11):
of that. There comes a time where you have to
separate family from business. When the family is intruding, is hampering,
is potentially ruining what you can do in your professional
life and may lead into your personal life. We've seen
it in boxing so many times. It just doesn't work,
the father son thing. It just doesn't because eventually it
becomes more about me, me, me, and look what I
(18:33):
created you than you you you. This is your time.
So I guess that's where I'm gonna end this video.
Daniel Dubois got to grow up. He's twenty seven years old.
There's nothing wrong with still living at home with your
parents if that's your family dynamic. There's nothing wrong with
having your dad be a part of your business. But
even with all of that, there has to be a
level of understanding for Daniel. That means standing up and saying,
(18:53):
this is my operation. If you want to be a
part of it, You're going to do things my way,
my career, my life, ilihood, my decision. That means a
decision time. So what will Daniel do next? I don't
have those answers. Just had to rant on the entire
Daniel Dubass situation because it's sad, because Daniel doesn't need
to be dealing with any of this. Really just lost
the biggest fight of his life. He needs to be
(19:14):
able to regroup and get his mind back together and
get back to whatever it is he wants to do.
If he wants to be at top level heavyweight, then
get back to that. Who knows what could happen down
the line. I assume Usik's gonna beat Joseph Parker caaba
Joseph Parker fight. Kybiel sits there, Hell Moses, the Toma
was gonna make his way up to the top parts
of heavyweight soon. Daniel'll be there, hopefully if he makes
the right decisions, rows up a little bit, and treats
(19:36):
his career like it's his and not his daddy. That's
what I got to say. Appreciate you guys for watching
what happens next with Daniel Dubois. I don't have those answers,
but I guess we'll find out
All right, so we are back on the Way Cosset
presented by the Ring. It's midnight, and it's been a
long day. I've been in Los Angeles recording with the
MMA Casuals. I just announced that I will be on
Misfits Boxing on August thirtieth doing commentary for the good
folks over at Misfits and today the story that has
just boggled my mind it's been going on for the
(00:20):
last couple of days, is the entire Daniel dou Baiss situation.
And the story is rightfully, for the most part, been
about Alexander Usik once again becoming the undisputed heavyweight champion
of the world. Second time he's done that. Third time
he's become undisputed between cruiser and heavyweight, one of the
greatest of all time, certainly the greatest heavyweight of this generation.
That should be the story, point blank, period loox under
(00:42):
Usik wins and retains and becomes once again undisputed. Well
as in most sports, that usually is the lead story,
but then there's the speculation and the rumor and the
theory and then conspiracy and maybe in some cases to
the underlying story, which is what I'm gonna talk about
(01:03):
today Daniel Dubois in the situation surrounding his fight day
and his fight night. What do I mean the breakdown?
Let's go all right? So, for those that don't know,
or maybe you do, I did a lot of research
on Daniel Dubois today and I found out he's one
of eleven children, that he was mostly homeschooled as a child,
and that his father, Stanley or I guess otherwise known
(01:24):
as Dave I think Davis's real name goes by Stanley,
not really sure, was pretty much the reason that Daniel
Dubois became a box According to some stuff I've read,
it goes all the way back to before Daniel was born,
and that his father had a vision that Daniel was
going to be a world champion boxer and trained him
to be that from the age of like four or five.
(01:44):
These training sessions, even when he was four or five
years old, would be pretty strenuous, to the point where
Daniel Dubois had to do workouts that included him finishing
the workout before food was even served at some point.
And I'm only presenting this to you because Daniel Dubois,
who is twenty seven years old now again is a
grown man. We'll get to that in a second, but
I'm giving you this information to show you that Daniel
(02:05):
dubas father is a massive part of his life. You
could argue the biggest part of his life even to
this day, outside and inside a box. So it may
not come as a surprise when I tell you that
Daniel Dubos's father, who does have a massive influence on him,
made some very odd decisions that potentially affected Daniel Dubois's
ability to fight on Saturday night. And again, before I
(02:28):
even start talking about this, I'm gonna let you know
I don't think that anything we're going to say was
going to effectively change the outcome of Saturday's fight between
Daniel Dubois and Alexander Usik. I think Usik was going
to beat Daniel Dubis no matter what shape or form
or outside of the ring stuff happened to him and
he showed up in Daniel Dubas got in a ring
(02:49):
with Usik one hundred times, I think Usik would probably
beat him ninety nine to one hundred times. That's how
good I believe Alexander Usik is. Now that I've given
my respect to both Daniel and Alexander Usik. I just
want to talk about how stupid people that are around
boxers can be, and I mean that one hundred percent. Stupidity, selfishness,
and ego find their ways into famous athletes camps all
(03:14):
the time. But Saturday was a particular level of stupid
from the man that, like I said a second ago,
influences Daniel Dubois the most, his own father. Let's take
a look. This is by Daily Mail and it is
an article that entails a couple of different things happening.
Daniel Dubois had to quote walk into Wembley after chaotic
journey involving Dad's party and accreditation nightmare before brutal ko
(03:39):
by Alexander Usik. Before we get into the walking part,
which is just insanity, let's start with the part that
was the topical news story as we came into Fight day.
Ladies and gentlemen. This is Daniel Dubois mere hours before
he is about to fight Alexander Usik, and you can
tell because he's wearing the same shirt he entered the
(04:00):
building in on Saturday night, the nighty faud Usik. Let's
take a look at this video. See Daniel looks and
he's smiling, looks like he's having a good time. And listen,
we'll get to Daniel's responsibility in this thing in a
little bit. But like I said, smiling, having a good
time right, a ton of people around them. I think
maybe he's entering the building somewhere. I don't know why
(04:22):
there is a DMX cosplayer a part of the venue here.
I don't know who this man is and why his
teeth look like a saloon door opening up. But listen,
no one's paying you to play DMX at their birthday party.
Buddy Bounce, come, come well again. You see here, and
(04:43):
we're probably gonna get demonetized by keep letting it play.
But look at all these people guys wearing a Los
Angeles Angels hat in the middle of London. I guess
it fits the fake Ralph Lauren. But as you can see,
there are a ton of people gathered at Daniel dubois house. Again,
we talked about Daniel Dubois and how he was raised.
Andy Duba still lives at his parents' house at twenty
(05:06):
seven years of age. You know Duboi was homeschool. If
you've watched Daniel speak in public, there's a clear delineation
from social interactions and the way that he approaches conversations
and how he responds to question. I'm not going to
make accusations on a man's personal life, but from what
I can see, Daniel Dubaugh does seem to struggle with
(05:27):
a lot of social interactions. So knowing that and the
fact that he has not been formally schooled, that he's
schooled by his father, protected by his father, raised by
his father, why on God's green earth would his father
or anybody on their team think that this is a
good idea to have. Well, as again, you'll see here
dozens upon dozens of people just around Daniel at his
(05:51):
house with music blaring, people having drinks. It's a party.
It is a party. And I know what Don Charles
got on talkSPORT yesterday and said it was a gathering,
not a part. Bullshit. A bunch of people that had
no business being at that house, by the way, a
bunch of people that Daniel Dubas didn't even seem to
know as according to Actually the report was done by
The Times. I apologize as I'm gonna read an excerpt
(06:12):
here from this article. It states a few hours earlier
in the opposing locker room. The contrast could hardly have
been starker. Daniel Dubois had not arrived to Wembley until
eight twenty pm on Saturday, less than ninety minutes before
he was due to make his ring walk. Again, We'll
get to the party, but just the interlude to that.
(06:33):
You have an hour and a half before you're about
to make your walk. And I'm not saying you have
to be at the venue all day, but every sports
event I've ever been at, I'm not there an hour
and a half before the game starts, because that's usually
when we're about to let the fans in. You know,
the people that are gonna sit there and watch you
do your thing, not the people that are going to
actually go and fight each other. The warm up, the
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acclamation process, being there grounded with your team, the warm up,
every thing needs to be planned out, and it's not
usually planned out for you to get there, try to
warm up and then make your walk, all in the
matter of ninety minutes before you're about to do it.
That point of consternation gave way to a mad cap
fight day, when Stanley hosted a party for dozens of
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his friends. Notice Stanley Dua's dad hosted a party for
dozens of his friend at the family mansion in Essex,
where Daniel still lives in the afternoon. Source claims Dubois,
a reclusive character despite the spotlight of the profession his
father guided him toward, did not know all of the
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guests well and left at one stage for a drive.
So let me get this straight. The father that puts
so much important into teaching discipline to his son, so
much importance into keeping him away from the public guys,
so much important into controlling every aspect of his life.
I mean, from what everything I've been reading here seems,
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decides to put his son, who was clearly not great
again in social interactions around the father's friends, not even
the son's friends, to the point where Daniel himself gets
so uncomfortable on the day of his fight with so
many people around that he has to get in the
car and drive around just to get away from that
and keep himself locked in or keep his mind at ease.
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We thought that was a winning strategy. And before the
people start in the comments section or wherever telling me
they did this for the aj fight, Wade, I heard that.
I heard that story when this started coming out that
this is what they did for the AJ fight, and
you don't rock the boat if it's working. I'm sorry.
Exceptions do not make the rule, just because here chaos happens,
and Daniel is such a good boxer and rose to
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the occasion when the AJ fight happened, and despite all
of these things, these these weirdo distractions that no one
in his position should be subjected to, especially with his
demeanor and his personality, despite all of that, he's able
to succeed. Doesn't mean that's a formula for success. It
means that Daniel dah on that night against AJ was
great in spite of all the bullshit that happened to him,
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either the week of or day. Because I heard that
clip from Don Charles on Talksports today talking about well
if it ain't broke, don't fix it, or that's the
same formula we've been using and not saying this for everybody,
but it works for us. Clearly, Yeah, clearly works because
he won the AJ fight. Absolutely moronic to think that's
the formula for success. I'm just I'm fired up because
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it frustrates me. Clearly, Daniel's dad has an important role
in this entire thing because he's put himself in control
of everything and decides to, I don't know, do whatever
this is on the day of his son's fight, knowing
it's the biggest fight of his life. It's just mind
boggling to me that this can happen Daniel du Watts
any professional. But we're not done yet, Let's keep going.
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The source claims their departure was delayed after Stanley requested
extra people carriers to bring his entourage to the venue.
He then drove Daniel to the venue himself, which caused
another administrative issue as only the designated vehicles had been accredited.
They then walked to the stadium entrance on foot from
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the car park, but a video clip shows Stanley calling
Daniel towards the door after security attempted to prevent some
of his friends from entering. The source alleges Stanley essentially
told them Daniel would not proceed without them. Again, this
is just a one side source claiming this, But it
doesn't seem like there'd be a need to lie about
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something like this, and there's pretty excruciating detail for someone
to lie about. But not only does Daniel's dad stage
a party hours before, not like in the morning. Hey, everybody,
thanks for coming up hours before the fight is meant
to be scheduled in an environment Daniel is so unfamiliar
with and he's clearly not comfortable in to the point
where Daniel himself asked his father to leave and drive
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around for a bit. Then they come back. They're further
delayed because Stanley needs his entire entourage, again, not Daniel's entourage,
not the actual world champions entourage. The dad of the
world champion needs to be escorted to the venue by
the service vehicles that are supposed to escort Daniel Duboi
to the venue. Father all controlling takes Daniel duba to
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the venue, just him and Daniel a part like where
the fans park and walk to the front door of
the stadium, and then Daniel is going to get finally
in his dressing room, and he's called back to the
front by his dad so that his dad can essentially
tell the people work in the gate. But if they
don't let this entourage of Daniel's dad in, that Daniel
Dubois himself will not be fighting on the night. Excuse me,
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what an absolute load of shit. I don't have any
words for how nonsensical, selfish, and ego driven Daniel Dubah Staniel,
That's what I called him. Because it's midnight here. Stanley
Duboin is in this situation, making it all about him
when his son all the things he taught his son,
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all the things they sacrifice, all the things Daniel sacrificed
and listen to his father for throughout his life to
get to that point, trusting his father and his father
putting him in the worst position possible in the day
he's supposed to go and fight. And yes, I'm making
a big deal about this, and again I don't think
that it ultimately would have changed what Usik was going
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to do to Daniel Dubois on Saturday night, because Usick
is an all time great. Just like I said in
my video a couple of days ago, Daniel Dubois started
the fight. Okay, did what I think he was supposed
to do, to try to at least mix this fight
up a little bit and have some modicum of success.
The problem is it didn't matter. It didn't matter what
Daniel Dubois did on that night. Usick is just better
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in every aspect of fighting. It's us He beats everyone,
but it's not even about that. It's about the preparation.
It's about the mindset of the people around Daniel Dubois
that allowed this kind of stuff to happen, to not
put him in the best position possible, his mindset in
just the scheduling and all these external things happening that
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he either has to deal with or he's part of,
or he's trying to get away from. Again, I hate
doing this because I've only I don't I'm not a
world champion fighter. I never will be having experience it
on that level, and I don't understand any of to
that degree. But even me one little fight that I've
had and it was on misfit, my coach bj Flores,
my best friend since and my cutman, Jacob Chavez, even
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my girlfriend, my mother would not allow me when I
was in Manchester be putting in an environment that I
was not familiar with, wasn't comfortable in, was gonna put
more stress on me before I even fought. Anything that
happened to me during fight week was handled by my
team and it wasn't even brought to me. All it
was for me to do is to be there for
my training sessions, be there for my weight cut and
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be there ready to go in the positions I need to.
I definitely wasn't driven to the venue by my coach.
We were taken in the vans and the places and
the things that were provided from misfits from the zone
to make sure things ran in an orderly fashion. And
guess what I could focus on my fight, and that's
at the influencer boxing level, not the undisputed heavyweight championship
of the world. That's utterly ridiculous. Where Daniel Duwat is
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currently to me is a struggle between whether he wants
to box for him, or he wants to be world
champion for him, whether he still enjoys and loves this sport,
or whether he's doing what his father is telling him
to do, because that is what has always been and
his goal has been his father's goal for him, because
that was what's always been. And I think Tony Bellue
said it best, and we're going to play his excerpt
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here from talkSPORT when he talked about Daniel Dubois and
what happened after the second USIK knockdown. Listen, he took
two big time shots back to back in that same round,
and it didn't look good for Daniel Dubois. I mean,
I don't know how many times that you know people
that are saying he quit, how many times it would
take for them to feel like the fight was over
because he was getting battered, the mouthpiece came out, he
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got tagged with the left hand, so and yeah, and
most of them are pro boxer saying this, so I'll
take their word for it. But the point I'm trying
to make is regardless whether you think he quit or
had more in the tank and just didn't want to
get up, the question I want to ask is why
and what's next? Here's Tony Bellue.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
I feel so starty for Daniel because I just think
he's allowed who's show regimented in his ways. He gets
into fantastic shape, he's a proper machine, guys, and he's
he's had a really good career. But I just think
the question needs to be asked, why are you what?
Who are you boxing for? Why are you doing this?
And is it to impress someone? Is it to get
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on the on the good sides, I don't know what
it is because he ain't fighting for money, guys. The
boys financially security financis secured a long time. I hope
to be totally honest, and I know that matter fact.
So you have to ask why is it? Because when
he gets into these really hard moments in fights, that's
when the real Daniel comes out, and the real Daniel
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doesn't want to fight.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
That's when the real Daniel comes out and the real
Daniel doesn't want to fight. I don't know how much
Tony Bellue is close with Daniel. I'm not sure. And
he has had some really tough moments, the Duoir first fight,
the Joe Joyce fight, this fight, but then he's also
had tough moments. He's come through, right, He's come through
some tough moments in his career, notably the the AJ fight.
Even though he was winning that fight, he had a
moment there where AJ could have turned the tide and
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Daniel said no. I guess that leads me back to
the point of this entire video is that Daniel Dubins
in this situation has to make a decision. And honestly,
Daniel Dubi right now needs to be an adult. He
is twenty seven years old, and I understand the dynamic
is not a normal one with him and his father
and his career and his upbringing and everything, but he
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needs to decide what it is he wants, right because
Daniel Duoaugh has some physical gifts, and he's twenty seven
years old and he's still you know, hasn't maybe even
hit his prime as a heavyweight boxer. Still can take
this loss. And I've been a big proponent of the
O doesn't meet as much as you guys think can
be a very very good heavyweight boxer. There's still so
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many good fights out there for it. But he has
to want to do it. And honestly, you know, from
the outsider perspective, this is easy for me to say,
but he has to grow up a little bit because
I do fully blame his father for the decisions his
father made on fight day, the party getting to the venue,
the driving there, the trying to threaten security with my
son's not going to fight tonight, that the trying to
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coach over Don Charles in the corner, just a pure chaos,
an ego trip of whatever this has been. For how
long it's been going on. I say it's the AJ fight,
maybe it's even before that, but this clearly doesn't work,
and why would it. It's absolute nonsense to think that
that kind of chaos on fight day, let alone what's
going on before fight day. This is just the day
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of that doesn't work. Daniel Dubois he needs to in
this moment, and he probably should have then put his
foot down as a grown man and say, dad, this
is not your career. It's because it's pretty clear to
me Stanley Dubois is living vicariously through his son, having
parties on behalf of his son before the sun even
goes and accomplishes the goal. Because look look what I created.
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He's right there, Look what I did. I made this. No,
Daniel Dubois made him what he is, and youal Duba,
put that work in. And I'm not trying to take
anything away personally from Daniel's dad and the situation and
again the love they have and the relationship and all
of that. I'm sure Daniel's dad is a fantastic dad
and raised him to be a great man and all
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of that. There comes a time where you have to
separate family from business. When the family is intruding, is hampering,
is potentially ruining what you can do in your professional
life and may lead into your personal life. We've seen
it in boxing so many times. It just doesn't work,
the father son thing. It just doesn't because eventually it
becomes more about me, me, me, and look what I
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created you than you you you. This is your time.
So I guess that's where I'm gonna end this video.
Daniel Dubois got to grow up. He's twenty seven years old.
There's nothing wrong with still living at home with your
parents if that's your family dynamic. There's nothing wrong with
having your dad be a part of your business. But
even with all of that, there has to be a
level of understanding for Daniel. That means standing up and saying,
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this is my operation. If you want to be a
part of it, You're going to do things my way,
my career, my life, ilihood, my decision. That means a
decision time. So what will Daniel do next? I don't
have those answers. Just had to rant on the entire
Daniel Dubass situation because it's sad, because Daniel doesn't need
to be dealing with any of this. Really just lost
the biggest fight of his life. He needs to be
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able to regroup and get his mind back together and
get back to whatever it is he wants to do.
If he wants to be at top level heavyweight, then
get back to that. Who knows what could happen down
the line. I assume Usik's gonna beat Joseph Parker caaba
Joseph Parker fight. Kybiel sits there, Hell Moses, the Toma
was gonna make his way up to the top parts
of heavyweight soon. Daniel'll be there, hopefully if he makes
the right decisions, rows up a little bit, and treats
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his career like it's his and not his daddy. That's
what I got to say. Appreciate you guys for watching
what happens next with Daniel Dubois. I don't have those answers,
but I guess we'll find out
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