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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Folks, we're back on the Way concept presented by The
Ring magazine. And I am sitting next to the show
stop King of New York, one half of your main
event July twelfth and Louis Armstrong Stadium.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It's Edgar Belonga. What's up?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
I'm man chilling, bro Hey. First off, you didn't have
to wear more. You didn't have to have so much ice.
I don't know if it was Edgar Berlonga or a freezer.
I was talking to this name guy Ice. Dude, you're
wearing your my condo on your neck. What we're doing here?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
You just had a stunt on me? Like, man, you
know this is my image. You know, there's I grew up,
you know, loving, you know, looking good. You know what
I'm saying. I always I always feel I look good.
I feel good. You know I could do the things
I want good?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
So you think I could pull it off?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Or now, I don't you know? I could pull the
chain off.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Maybe one maybe one, just one little video you can
you can pull it on, okay, But then you're gonna
go from being like like you look like you'd probably like.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Do movies and ship okay, to like a guy that
I'm gonna get a I'm gonna get a square off here.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
You know what I'm saying, have a nice and.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Put the part yeah, change on that you're gonna really
like a New Yorker.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I got a bunch of friends that are that live
up in this area.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Puerto Rican.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Uh for you, how important is it to put her
on for not just the city of New York, but
for Puerto Rican heritage, for for everything that that matters
most to you.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
It's everything, that's what's you know, I'm not going in
there by myself. You know, I'm going in there with
my team, with my family for Puerto Rico. There's a
lot of Puerto Ricans on the island that's with me,
you know. And I'm going in there with them my ancestors,
you know, from from the eighteen hundreds. You know what
I'm saying, That those people are going in and that
ring with me. You know, I think that now. I
(01:42):
keep saying, I know that I'm destined for something great.
And Hams is just in a way, you know what
I'm saying, So we can't overlook them, I can't look
what's behind them. And you know that's the kind of
lo rematch and this and there's a lot of things
that's lined up for us that could happen, you know,
but right now we got to focus on him, you know,
(02:03):
because if we don't get through him, everything goes out
the window.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
A lot of you said, a lot of people in
your corner, and before we got on camera, you said,
I gotta perform.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Yeah, I got to I'm home and my home. One
thing about New York is, bro, they love a fight,
and they love grit, and they love when you put
your bulls on the table and get it. You know
what I'm saying. And there listen, New York is a
place where if they love you, yeah, they love you,
(02:35):
but if they don't like you, they'll ship on you.
You see with the Knicks, they start doing paraise and everything.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Before yeah, yeah, the little premature.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Yeah, they go crazy.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Bro, can't be doing that.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
You got the Celtics winning last night, y'all thought the
series is over.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
It ain't over yet, but they feel like it's a
victory because you know, the Knicks always been in the dump.
So it's like when they get this far as like.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
So are we back by the way or the Knicks back?
Speaker 3 (02:59):
I hope they are, you know, what I'm saying. I
want them to win. They from New York. You know,
I'm not like a big, big, big basketball fan, but
you know I've wrapped New York.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
You know, you big like baseball, football.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Now everything, you know. Jets, Giants, Okay, Okay, I love Jase,
you know what I'm saying. But Giants is my friend. Okay. Yankees,
you know I love the Yankees. I love the Mets.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
There's a lot of you gonna love the Yankees and
the Mets, though, you gotta love I'm from New York
that I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
If that's one thing about me is that if I
get loved from if you get loved from both places.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
You got, you gotta reciprocate. Yeah, you gotta reciprocate.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
So I gotta be equal. You know what I'm saying.
I gotta be in the middle and just you know,
love both.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
So the Nets too, obviously Brooklyn the Brooklyn Nets.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah, but they're not.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
That's gotta be your squad.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Yeah, but they just I don't know, I feel like
for me, they like.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Know, still expansion team.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
They got used to be Jersey bound, they moved up
here now.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
You're claiming Brooklyn like that.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
I can't come up here and claim Brooklyn if I
just move up here, right. I'm from the South, I'm
from Tennessee, so we can't just you.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Gotta go through me.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
I gotta check in.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I check it my father.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I didn't know I had to check it. That's cool.
Uh So, yeah, talk to me about Hamza.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Man.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
We just did the face off, we did the press conference.
You've been in front of him all day. What's the energy, man?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
What are you feeling from him?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Fight? You know what I'm saying. I was trying to
go go away for nine weeks, going the hibernation mode.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Because he thinks you're crazy.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
By the way, you could tell I don't go fuck
what he thinks. You know what I'm saying, I am
crazy a little better.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
You gotta be crazy in this game.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
You gotta be Look at the legends, every legend. Look
at Fluent Mayweather, Look at Connor McGregor, look at Michael
Jordan's look at Kobe Bryant like Tyson. Look at Mike Tyson,
look at Muhammad Ali. These guys are crazy. People thought
they were psycho, but you can't be a normal guy
and try to be you can't be normal and then
think you're going to be a legend. Ain't no way, bro,
(04:48):
being like that quiet, you ain't gonna be you ain't.
You gotta be a little crazy, Roberto Durant, You got
to be crazy, bro. You know what I'm saying, Who
Lise is, Travis, You gotta be crazy. These guys is crazy,
you know, so you gotta be a little crazy to
get to that level. I don't think if you're normal
you won't get there. You gotta be a little bit
crazy to get up there. Because when you're crazy, you
want to do. You want to you know, try new things.
(05:10):
And in the ring. You know what I'm saying, if
you a certain way, you're not you're going to be
scared to take that, to take that leap of faith
and say, you know what, let me try this, let
me try this. I'm gonna be in the gym, yo, Mark,
I want to go twenty five rounds and sparing today.
You know what I'm saying Like that, Like that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
You just told me too before we're going camera, Like, Bro,
I'm about to go train right now.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Yeah, today got you? Today, got you hyped up or
you just yesterday.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
As soon as I got here, I landed, my flag
got delayed. I got you, by the way, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Why do you get it together? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Tripping. I came from Tampa. So when I got here,
I landed, I got ten. I called my strength conditioning coach.
I'm like, yo, I'm here, like I'm getting to the hotel.
I'm dropping my shit off, I'm grabbing my back and
we're going straight to the gym.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
It was in the gym to like almost can tell, man,
the guns popping out.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I didn't know those was registered stay in New York.
You know what I mean. You gotta get those things.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Checked out, you know. But I came back in the
morning eight. I got up at nine in the morning,
here with y'all doing all of this. After I'm done,
I'm going right back to train.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Just locked in, they said, bro.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
At the end of the day, man, like, you know,
all the talk and everything we're doing is you know,
it's cool, But you know when it's all saiding done
til twelve, when me and him is in that ring,
it's only me and him.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yeah, I like that though.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I like the talk because I want it to me.
It shows you're confident. And two I kind of talked
to you about this earlier. You put pressure on yourself.
Can't really anybody else say shit to you. You know
what I'm saying, Like, if you put it like I'm this,
this is what I'm gonna go do. That pressure has
already been put on you by you. So whatever they
say they say, it don't matter because you already got
put it on me. Go ahead say whatever it is.
(06:40):
There's nobody that says, yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Is everything that's mental is as long as you get here.
Just controls your body. Your mind controls your body. Whatever
you tell yourself you want to do it, you're gonna
do it. You know what I'm saying. If I want
to run through this wall, right No, I'm serious, Right,
I'm serious. If I want to run through that wall
right now, don't. By the way, Mark always told me,
(07:03):
if you want to go through something, you put your
manto you're gonna do it like the like you see
like the riots right the right, you see the rights
when they start digging holes.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Okay, Like I'm from the problem out here in New.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
York right from the projects. Is I used to have
a lot of riots, but.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
We shoot them where I come from. We take the
gun out and just line.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
We chased them with with bats and and then tee
and off my rat trying to get him out. But
like when we was younger. But you know a rat
what it does. It keeps scratching and keep scratching until
it until it gets the hole. And that was inside
the house, right, So it's the same way with us.
Whatever we put them, Manto, we're gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
So when it comes to this fight, you know, like
I said, I saw this energy between you and and Shias.
Something you pointed out and I thought was interesting. You
were like to me your Canelo, like you're the best
person even if you already went to twelve with Canlo,
You're the best person I've ever faced because you're the
next guy face. And you felt like he didn't have
that same energy for you at all.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
That's how I know I beat him already. I already
beat him, already beat him mentally.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
You just already he's checked like he's trying to overlook you.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Already the next thing right.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
There, I beat him, I start talking, I just beat you.
You don't even know. I just beat you, bro, because
I'm looking at you like Canelo, I'm going away for camp, Nigga,
like I'm not part of my work. Now we're not
going on. I'm not going back on. I'm going away
Like he's my Canolo. You know what I'm saying. He's
once I get him out the way, It's like, now, yo, Turkey,
(08:32):
let's sit down. You know what I'm saying. Let's talk. Man,
what you said?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
What do you say to if you said Turkey was
what he said?
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Turkey's is poppy, you know it's his poppy right there.
He gotta checking him like this, walking like hey, hey,
don't talk when I talk. Don't say nothing. When I
tell you to move, you move. So he's doing that,
That's what I'm saying. He don't want to be in
New York. Like he's gonna be fighting in New York.
Come on. He's just doing this because they put in
the pressure. I'm like, Yo, you gotta take this fight
because if not, you're not gonna get the candle fight,
you know what I'm saying. So he's like, fuck, I'm
(08:58):
gonna take the fight.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
But but you think about it, like the way you
talk about how Turkey looks at him, that says a
lot for our Turkey looks at you that he wants
shre has to come over here in your backyard and
take this kind of challenge of this first fight at
one sixty year.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
That's a big deal, man.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Yeah, maybe maybe Turkey's understanding me. I think Turkey, I
think you unestimated just a little bit, okay, and it's
maybe you know, it's boxing, So I don't take nothing personal.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Should light a fire too.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
It likes a fire because then after that we're gonna
sit down with you. We sit down like this, man,
you we have some dinner.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Just kick me out, Turkey.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
You can see here and we you know, talk real money.
They talk real money.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
They know I ain't pocket watching you look like you
got it right?
Speaker 3 (09:40):
No, no, no, they could buy this right here, A million
of these, a million of these they could buy a
million times.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Also, you got to respect you know, one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
The money is different facts, you know.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Now speaking of the money being different, one hundred k
bed huh. I watched to go down. The handshake made
it official? Well, I don't know if it's official official,
but we're gonna honor it. You think they're gonna honor it?
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Oh, yeah, yeah, I already spoke to this guy. Okay,
he said, yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
One hundred k on the line.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Does that make it a little more sweet for you?
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Yeah? Hell yeah, I guess we're going. You never did
no shit like that.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I was gonna say, you kind of stuck it on him,
and it was like, do we have to look around
and say, yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I do ship like that? Okay, you don't even know
I do.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I don't do it, so I don't like life.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
That's why I'm comfortable. He an't tell me that's better
I was doing. That's what I'm not.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah, you know the type of ship I do. I
lose like five hundred at the casino. That's the ship
I'm on, and I don't go back. That's fine, let's
go when you're doing one hundred game.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
I know. But now I did more than that on myself,
like my whole basically my whole life. I better on myself,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
But like, but that's that's why you are in the
position you're in, I think, and that's why you're going
to the place you're going. You talked about risk, you
talked about being a little crazy. It's honestly just you
saying yes to every challenge in front. Man, I respect
the hell out of it.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
And I want to fight the best. I'm not here
try pigging nobody. I want to fight the best. That's
that's you want to make and I want to make
the biggest fights happen. Yes where there's a lot of
fans and you know people can enjoy it. That's all
the box. And you know what I'm saying. People were
about they old people were about a lot of different things. Man,
it's about giving the fans a great fight. Bro, look
(11:23):
at me and Canelo. Nobody don't talk about they talk about.
What they talk about is yo, you you and kind
of man. Y'all need to do a rematch? Bro, Why Bro?
In that arena, everybody was on their their feet.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
When I tell you I was in Vegas at night.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
I remember, you know, everybody in that arena was on
their feet. That's why it went from booze to after
the twelve round, I was leaving. I felt like a
fucking superstar.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Respect you earned screaming so much.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
I was walking. I was walking through the through the
through the MGM to go to go out to dinner
at like a little din and I was in an MGM. BRO.
I had a mob of Mexicans, bro mobling me.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Picture is telling me I'm a legend, telling thank you.
Like the Bro. They don't remember. They're not remembering all
you lost sign they remember Yo, you weren't kind of
thought a fucking amazing fight, Bro, just like the Godian Ward. No,
I don't.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
I never spoke about Yo, who won that fight. I
just look at the fight. I was a fucking wall.
Those three fights. That's what they talk about, don't. They
don't talk about all but but but Ward one. No,
they talk about Yo. They went at it, and that's
what boxing is about.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
What's your relationship now?
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Like with Canelo, I'm interested because it felt like there
was a lot of respect between you two after the fight,
and then I saw you kind of gone off on
him on Twitter. What what's it like right now?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
How do you look at him? It's back up?
Speaker 3 (12:41):
No respect? Why because I gave you too much? I
gave you so much respect after the fight. You know
what I'm saying. I tell you you changed my life.
Thank you, Yeah, you know, thank you for the opportunity
like I And then you went on on and you
did an interview and you you you said I ran
you crazy, I'm trying to survive And that's so funny
that he's saying that the whole fight week and then
(13:04):
he fights again. He fights a guy that's really trying
to survive, and it's like then you see him complaining
like to score, like yo, bro, come on man, fight man.
So it's like, who was really trying to survive? You
know what I'm saying? And you know me, I'm a
guy that you try to troll me, and you try to,
you know, make fun of me. I'm gonna trow you
right back.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
So that one's it's back up.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Now. Hell yeah, Now it's personal with him. Me and
him is personal. But I gotta get course, I gotta
get my ship back. Of course.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Now when it comes to fighting in general, I've always
had this question ready for you because I feel like
you're a guy that gets down outside of the ring too.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
You've been in the street fights man when I was younger.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, any any any like crazy one, but you care
to not may you know what I'm saying, trying to.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
No not not not no, not crazy, but because I'm
not gonna lie. Man, Like a lot of people love me,
you know, and I knew how to fight. My mom
was boxing. I was six years old, so you know,
when I was younger, my dad went away from prison,
you know. On the project and stuff, I had a
I was imagine me light skinned like you, no facial hair,
pretty boy. You know. These guys was bad little kids,
(14:07):
you know what I'm saying. They was breaking car windows,
robbing cars, you know what I'm saying, working with bats
and stuff, you know, and it was getting It used
to get crazy, you know. And I used to want
to be outside. I'm a kid. I want to hang out,
you know. And I used to go outside and I
had to prove myself, you know what I'm saying. I
had to get my respects. So I used to have
to beat people up, you know what I'm saying, be
like yo, and I was like Yo, let's get it.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Boom boom knight like that.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
And then after that, just in my project was used
to be like yog. I used to call me your
egg yog, you know what I'm saying. Out of school.
Coming out of school was like a fight boom. And
then I got my respect.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Say, it got to a point where everybody learned not
to mess with you.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Yeah, and then also too, you know, me going to
the gym. So I stood I stood of. It happened
a lot when when my father went to prison, because
like I used to skip school. I used to try
to skip school and also skip the gym. You know
what I'm saying. They're like, you know, be outside, you know,
so everybody else is, and you know that's what like
(15:06):
drew me into like one of them, be in the
streets and fight, you know what I'm saying. And one
time my dad like my sister like was fighting with
this this young kid like grabbing my sister by the hair,
and like my dad was like yo. My dad told
me like, yo, look we did to your sister. I
look went up to him, boom, knocked him out. One
shot knocked them my boom. Yeah, he like grabbed my
(15:26):
sister by the hair. That was playing again. It was over.
You know my my my step brother was way older
than he was in the school together. I used to
be like they used to be like yo. Like one
time it was in like I was in the class,
but my step brother was he was older than me.
It was my ex step brother was older than me,
and I was like I used to protect him, and
they came to my class that, Yo, these two kids
(15:47):
are being was being the ship out of yo. I
was away that there was like it was in the bathroom, actually, teacher,
I go to the bathroom. There you go, you know, yeah,
I go to the bathroom. They still there, demolished them
in the back of got being. Both of them got
suspended trying to expel me out the school.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
You know, so you've been You've been in them streets.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Listen. I grew up very sheltered. Thank you to my
mom and dad.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Shelter homes, sheltered, country boys, shelter.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
I seen, like six years old, bro seeing shoot out.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Oh, shelter homes different.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
I was like, well, sorry, completely different my shelter, your
sheltered different.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
You know what's that brought? Wake up? And you had
you had fucking car windows and the Bronx hit car windows,
splashing bops And I get up. It is in the sheldon.
I was in Hunts Point. Get up. I was climb
on top of the what the sinker is that it
was a window and I was just I was just
standing at the whole shoot out. It was just shooting
back and forth. My mom grabbed me crying, get get on.
(16:44):
You know, it was like level, it was almost on
the floor, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, on the
street floor.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
By the way, the way you're talking about this is
like it's just nothing, which is crazy to me because
I would be petrified for the rest of my life.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
It's shape you. This is what shaped you and made
me humble too. It made me humble because it made
me you know, respect, you know a lot of things
because you know that life is not cool. You know,
I don't condone it. So me seeing that, like and
then you know, my dad going to prison and leaving
and coming back and leaving again, going to prison, I
just I just had a different type of respect, you
(17:17):
know what I'm saying for for people that you know
that's in their life. And then I try to like,
you know, talk to these young guys now you know
what I'm saying and telling them to listen, Bro, you
can't be doing that, you know what I'm saying. You
gotta do this the right way, you know. And a
lot of people like drawn to me because they see me.
I'm a positive guy. You know, I'm not a sucker.
But I'm also because for you to do good in life.
(17:38):
You don't got to be a sucker, you know what
I'm saying. A lot I feel like a lot of
people feel like that, like for you to be a
good person and do good in life, whether you've got
a career or whether you're working or off, they feel
like it's a sucker. Now, that's not a s as
a room man, you know what I'm saying. That's a
real man. Is a guy to take care his family,
Take care his moms, take his father, you know what
I'm saying, take his his kids. You know, that's a
real man.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Love that.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
You know. Being in the street and acting like a
bad boy, now it's not cool. You know.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Well, now you're doing this to take care of your family.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Give me one last down the lens Prediction July twelfth.
You step in that ring across from you is Humza Hiraz.
The bell rings.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
What happens? Tell the people? So here he is man
egar Verlanga.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Once again, he's won half of your main events. Stay
tuned July twelfth from the Louis Armstrong Stadium. Thanks to
the ring, it's the way concept.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
What happens?
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Then?
Speaker 2 (18:33):
I don't have those answers, but I guess we'll find
out
Folks, we're back on the Way concept presented by The
Ring magazine. And I am sitting next to the show
stop King of New York, one half of your main
event July twelfth and Louis Armstrong Stadium.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It's Edgar Belonga. What's up?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
I'm man chilling, bro Hey. First off, you didn't have
to wear more. You didn't have to have so much ice.
I don't know if it was Edgar Berlonga or a freezer.
I was talking to this name guy Ice. Dude, you're
wearing your my condo on your neck. What we're doing here?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
You just had a stunt on me? Like, man, you
know this is my image. You know, there's I grew up,
you know, loving, you know, looking good. You know what
I'm saying. I always I always feel I look good.
I feel good. You know I could do the things
I want good?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
So you think I could pull it off?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Or now, I don't you know? I could pull the
chain off.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Maybe one maybe one, just one little video you can
you can pull it on, okay, But then you're gonna
go from being like like you look like you'd probably like.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Do movies and ship okay, to like a guy that
I'm gonna get a I'm gonna get a square off here.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
You know what I'm saying, have a nice and.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Put the part yeah, change on that you're gonna really
like a New Yorker.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I got a bunch of friends that are that live
up in this area.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Puerto Rican.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Uh for you, how important is it to put her
on for not just the city of New York, but
for Puerto Rican heritage, for for everything that that matters
most to you.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
It's everything, that's what's you know, I'm not going in
there by myself. You know, I'm going in there with
my team, with my family for Puerto Rico. There's a
lot of Puerto Ricans on the island that's with me,
you know. And I'm going in there with them my ancestors,
you know, from from the eighteen hundreds. You know what
I'm saying, That those people are going in and that
ring with me. You know, I think that now. I
(01:42):
keep saying, I know that I'm destined for something great.
And Hams is just in a way, you know what
I'm saying, So we can't overlook them, I can't look
what's behind them. And you know that's the kind of
lo rematch and this and there's a lot of things
that's lined up for us that could happen, you know,
but right now we got to focus on him, you know,
(02:03):
because if we don't get through him, everything goes out
the window.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
A lot of you said, a lot of people in
your corner, and before we got on camera, you said,
I gotta perform.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Yeah, I got to I'm home and my home. One
thing about New York is, bro, they love a fight,
and they love grit, and they love when you put
your bulls on the table and get it. You know
what I'm saying. And there listen, New York is a
place where if they love you, yeah, they love you,
(02:35):
but if they don't like you, they'll ship on you.
You see with the Knicks, they start doing paraise and everything.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Before yeah, yeah, the little premature.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Yeah, they go crazy.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Bro, can't be doing that.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
You got the Celtics winning last night, y'all thought the
series is over.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
It ain't over yet, but they feel like it's a
victory because you know, the Knicks always been in the dump.
So it's like when they get this far as like.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
So are we back by the way or the Knicks back?
Speaker 3 (02:59):
I hope they are, you know, what I'm saying. I
want them to win. They from New York. You know,
I'm not like a big, big, big basketball fan, but
you know I've wrapped New York.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
You know, you big like baseball, football.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Now everything, you know. Jets, Giants, Okay, Okay, I love Jase,
you know what I'm saying. But Giants is my friend. Okay. Yankees,
you know I love the Yankees. I love the Mets.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
There's a lot of you gonna love the Yankees and
the Mets, though, you gotta love I'm from New York
that I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
If that's one thing about me is that if I
get loved from if you get loved from both places.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
You got, you gotta reciprocate. Yeah, you gotta reciprocate.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
So I gotta be equal. You know what I'm saying.
I gotta be in the middle and just you know,
love both.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
So the Nets too, obviously Brooklyn the Brooklyn Nets.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah, but they're not.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
That's gotta be your squad.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Yeah, but they just I don't know, I feel like
for me, they like.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Know, still expansion team.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
They got used to be Jersey bound, they moved up
here now.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
You're claiming Brooklyn like that.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
I can't come up here and claim Brooklyn if I
just move up here, right. I'm from the South, I'm
from Tennessee, so we can't just you.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Gotta go through me.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
I gotta check in.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I check it my father.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I didn't know I had to check it. That's cool.
Uh So, yeah, talk to me about Hamza.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Man.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
We just did the face off, we did the press conference.
You've been in front of him all day. What's the energy, man?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
What are you feeling from him?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Fight? You know what I'm saying. I was trying to
go go away for nine weeks, going the hibernation mode.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Because he thinks you're crazy.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
By the way, you could tell I don't go fuck
what he thinks. You know what I'm saying, I am
crazy a little better.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
You gotta be crazy in this game.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
You gotta be Look at the legends, every legend. Look
at Fluent Mayweather, Look at Connor McGregor, look at Michael
Jordan's look at Kobe Bryant like Tyson. Look at Mike Tyson,
look at Muhammad Ali. These guys are crazy. People thought
they were psycho, but you can't be a normal guy
and try to be you can't be normal and then
think you're going to be a legend. Ain't no way, bro,
(04:48):
being like that quiet, you ain't gonna be you ain't.
You gotta be a little crazy, Roberto Durant, You got
to be crazy, bro. You know what I'm saying, Who
Lise is, Travis, You gotta be crazy. These guys is crazy,
you know, so you gotta be a little crazy to
get to that level. I don't think if you're normal
you won't get there. You gotta be a little bit
crazy to get up there. Because when you're crazy, you
want to do. You want to you know, try new things.
(05:10):
And in the ring. You know what I'm saying, if
you a certain way, you're not you're going to be
scared to take that, to take that leap of faith
and say, you know what, let me try this, let
me try this. I'm gonna be in the gym, yo, Mark,
I want to go twenty five rounds and sparing today.
You know what I'm saying Like that, Like that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
You just told me too before we're going camera, Like, Bro,
I'm about to go train right now.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Yeah, today got you? Today, got you hyped up or
you just yesterday.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
As soon as I got here, I landed, my flag
got delayed. I got you, by the way, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Why do you get it together? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Tripping. I came from Tampa. So when I got here,
I landed, I got ten. I called my strength conditioning coach.
I'm like, yo, I'm here, like I'm getting to the hotel.
I'm dropping my shit off, I'm grabbing my back and
we're going straight to the gym.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
It was in the gym to like almost can tell, man,
the guns popping out.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I didn't know those was registered stay in New York.
You know what I mean. You gotta get those things.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Checked out, you know. But I came back in the
morning eight. I got up at nine in the morning,
here with y'all doing all of this. After I'm done,
I'm going right back to train.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Just locked in, they said, bro.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
At the end of the day, man, like, you know,
all the talk and everything we're doing is you know,
it's cool, But you know when it's all saiding done
til twelve, when me and him is in that ring,
it's only me and him.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yeah, I like that though.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I like the talk because I want it to me.
It shows you're confident. And two I kind of talked
to you about this earlier. You put pressure on yourself.
Can't really anybody else say shit to you. You know
what I'm saying, Like, if you put it like I'm this,
this is what I'm gonna go do. That pressure has
already been put on you by you. So whatever they
say they say, it don't matter because you already got
put it on me. Go ahead say whatever it is.
(06:40):
There's nobody that says, yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Is everything that's mental is as long as you get here.
Just controls your body. Your mind controls your body. Whatever
you tell yourself you want to do it, you're gonna
do it. You know what I'm saying. If I want
to run through this wall, right No, I'm serious, Right,
I'm serious. If I want to run through that wall
right now, don't. By the way, Mark always told me,
(07:03):
if you want to go through something, you put your
manto you're gonna do it like the like you see
like the riots right the right, you see the rights
when they start digging holes.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Okay, Like I'm from the problem out here in New.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
York right from the projects. Is I used to have
a lot of riots, but.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
We shoot them where I come from. We take the
gun out and just line.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
We chased them with with bats and and then tee
and off my rat trying to get him out. But
like when we was younger. But you know a rat
what it does. It keeps scratching and keep scratching until
it until it gets the hole. And that was inside
the house, right, So it's the same way with us.
Whatever we put them, Manto, we're gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
So when it comes to this fight, you know, like
I said, I saw this energy between you and and Shias.
Something you pointed out and I thought was interesting. You
were like to me your Canelo, like you're the best
person even if you already went to twelve with Canlo,
You're the best person I've ever faced because you're the
next guy face. And you felt like he didn't have
that same energy for you at all.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
That's how I know I beat him already. I already
beat him, already beat him mentally.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
You just already he's checked like he's trying to overlook you.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Already the next thing right.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
There, I beat him, I start talking, I just beat you.
You don't even know. I just beat you, bro, because
I'm looking at you like Canelo, I'm going away for camp, Nigga,
like I'm not part of my work. Now we're not
going on. I'm not going back on. I'm going away
Like he's my Canolo. You know what I'm saying. He's
once I get him out the way, It's like, now, yo, Turkey,
(08:32):
let's sit down. You know what I'm saying. Let's talk. Man,
what you said?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
What do you say to if you said Turkey was
what he said?
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Turkey's is poppy, you know it's his poppy right there.
He gotta checking him like this, walking like hey, hey,
don't talk when I talk. Don't say nothing. When I
tell you to move, you move. So he's doing that,
That's what I'm saying. He don't want to be in
New York. Like he's gonna be fighting in New York.
Come on. He's just doing this because they put in
the pressure. I'm like, Yo, you gotta take this fight
because if not, you're not gonna get the candle fight,
you know what I'm saying. So he's like, fuck, I'm
(08:58):
gonna take the fight.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
But but you think about it, like the way you
talk about how Turkey looks at him, that says a
lot for our Turkey looks at you that he wants
shre has to come over here in your backyard and
take this kind of challenge of this first fight at
one sixty year.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
That's a big deal, man.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Yeah, maybe maybe Turkey's understanding me. I think Turkey, I
think you unestimated just a little bit, okay, and it's
maybe you know, it's boxing, So I don't take nothing personal.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Should light a fire too.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
It likes a fire because then after that we're gonna
sit down with you. We sit down like this, man,
you we have some dinner.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Just kick me out, Turkey.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
You can see here and we you know, talk real money.
They talk real money.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
They know I ain't pocket watching you look like you
got it right?
Speaker 3 (09:40):
No, no, no, they could buy this right here, A million
of these, a million of these they could buy a
million times.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Also, you got to respect you know, one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
The money is different facts, you know.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Now speaking of the money being different, one hundred k
bed huh. I watched to go down. The handshake made
it official? Well, I don't know if it's official official,
but we're gonna honor it. You think they're gonna honor it?
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Oh, yeah, yeah, I already spoke to this guy. Okay,
he said, yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
One hundred k on the line.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Does that make it a little more sweet for you?
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Yeah? Hell yeah, I guess we're going. You never did
no shit like that.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I was gonna say, you kind of stuck it on him,
and it was like, do we have to look around
and say, yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I do ship like that? Okay, you don't even know
I do.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I don't do it, so I don't like life.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
That's why I'm comfortable. He an't tell me that's better
I was doing. That's what I'm not.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah, you know the type of ship I do. I
lose like five hundred at the casino. That's the ship
I'm on, and I don't go back. That's fine, let's
go when you're doing one hundred game.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
I know. But now I did more than that on myself,
like my whole basically my whole life. I better on myself,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
But like, but that's that's why you are in the
position you're in, I think, and that's why you're going
to the place you're going. You talked about risk, you
talked about being a little crazy. It's honestly just you
saying yes to every challenge in front. Man, I respect
the hell out of it.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
And I want to fight the best. I'm not here
try pigging nobody. I want to fight the best. That's
that's you want to make and I want to make
the biggest fights happen. Yes where there's a lot of
fans and you know people can enjoy it. That's all
the box. And you know what I'm saying. People were
about they old people were about a lot of different things. Man,
it's about giving the fans a great fight. Bro, look
(11:23):
at me and Canelo. Nobody don't talk about they talk about.
What they talk about is yo, you you and kind
of man. Y'all need to do a rematch? Bro, Why Bro?
In that arena, everybody was on their their feet.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
When I tell you I was in Vegas at night.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
I remember, you know, everybody in that arena was on
their feet. That's why it went from booze to after
the twelve round, I was leaving. I felt like a
fucking superstar.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Respect you earned screaming so much.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
I was walking. I was walking through the through the
through the MGM to go to go out to dinner
at like a little din and I was in an MGM. BRO.
I had a mob of Mexicans, bro mobling me.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Picture is telling me I'm a legend, telling thank you.
Like the Bro. They don't remember. They're not remembering all
you lost sign they remember Yo, you weren't kind of
thought a fucking amazing fight, Bro, just like the Godian Ward. No,
I don't.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
I never spoke about Yo, who won that fight. I
just look at the fight. I was a fucking wall.
Those three fights. That's what they talk about, don't. They
don't talk about all but but but Ward one. No,
they talk about Yo. They went at it, and that's
what boxing is about.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
What's your relationship now?
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Like with Canelo, I'm interested because it felt like there
was a lot of respect between you two after the fight,
and then I saw you kind of gone off on
him on Twitter. What what's it like right now?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
How do you look at him? It's back up?
Speaker 3 (12:41):
No respect? Why because I gave you too much? I
gave you so much respect after the fight. You know
what I'm saying. I tell you you changed my life.
Thank you, Yeah, you know, thank you for the opportunity
like I And then you went on on and you
did an interview and you you you said I ran
you crazy, I'm trying to survive And that's so funny
that he's saying that the whole fight week and then
(13:04):
he fights again. He fights a guy that's really trying
to survive, and it's like then you see him complaining
like to score, like yo, bro, come on man, fight man.
So it's like, who was really trying to survive? You
know what I'm saying? And you know me, I'm a
guy that you try to troll me, and you try to,
you know, make fun of me. I'm gonna trow you
right back.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
So that one's it's back up.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Now. Hell yeah, Now it's personal with him. Me and
him is personal. But I gotta get course, I gotta
get my ship back. Of course.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Now when it comes to fighting in general, I've always
had this question ready for you because I feel like
you're a guy that gets down outside of the ring too.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
You've been in the street fights man when I was younger.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, any any any like crazy one, but you care
to not may you know what I'm saying, trying to.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
No not not not no, not crazy, but because I'm
not gonna lie. Man, Like a lot of people love me,
you know, and I knew how to fight. My mom
was boxing. I was six years old, so you know,
when I was younger, my dad went away from prison,
you know. On the project and stuff, I had a
I was imagine me light skinned like you, no facial hair,
pretty boy. You know. These guys was bad little kids,
(14:07):
you know what I'm saying. They was breaking car windows,
robbing cars, you know what I'm saying, working with bats
and stuff, you know, and it was getting It used
to get crazy, you know. And I used to want
to be outside. I'm a kid. I want to hang out,
you know. And I used to go outside and I
had to prove myself, you know what I'm saying. I
had to get my respects. So I used to have
to beat people up, you know what I'm saying, be
like yo, and I was like Yo, let's get it.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Boom boom knight like that.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
And then after that, just in my project was used
to be like yog. I used to call me your
egg yog, you know what I'm saying. Out of school.
Coming out of school was like a fight boom. And
then I got my respect.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Say, it got to a point where everybody learned not
to mess with you.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Yeah, and then also too, you know, me going to
the gym. So I stood I stood of. It happened
a lot when when my father went to prison, because
like I used to skip school. I used to try
to skip school and also skip the gym. You know
what I'm saying. They're like, you know, be outside, you know,
so everybody else is, and you know that's what like
(15:06):
drew me into like one of them, be in the
streets and fight, you know what I'm saying. And one
time my dad like my sister like was fighting with
this this young kid like grabbing my sister by the hair,
and like my dad was like yo. My dad told
me like, yo, look we did to your sister. I
look went up to him, boom, knocked him out. One
shot knocked them my boom. Yeah, he like grabbed my
(15:26):
sister by the hair. That was playing again. It was over.
You know my my my step brother was way older
than he was in the school together. I used to
be like they used to be like yo. Like one
time it was in like I was in the class,
but my step brother was he was older than me.
It was my ex step brother was older than me,
and I was like I used to protect him, and
they came to my class that, Yo, these two kids
(15:47):
are being was being the ship out of yo. I
was away that there was like it was in the bathroom, actually, teacher,
I go to the bathroom. There you go, you know, yeah,
I go to the bathroom. They still there, demolished them
in the back of got being. Both of them got
suspended trying to expel me out the school.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
You know, so you've been You've been in them streets.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Listen. I grew up very sheltered. Thank you to my
mom and dad.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Shelter homes, sheltered, country boys, shelter.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
I seen, like six years old, bro seeing shoot out.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Oh, shelter homes different.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
I was like, well, sorry, completely different my shelter, your
sheltered different.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
You know what's that brought? Wake up? And you had
you had fucking car windows and the Bronx hit car windows,
splashing bops And I get up. It is in the sheldon.
I was in Hunts Point. Get up. I was climb
on top of the what the sinker is that it
was a window and I was just I was just
standing at the whole shoot out. It was just shooting
back and forth. My mom grabbed me crying, get get on.
(16:44):
You know, it was like level, it was almost on
the floor, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, on the
street floor.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
By the way, the way you're talking about this is
like it's just nothing, which is crazy to me because
I would be petrified for the rest of my life.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
It's shape you. This is what shaped you and made
me humble too. It made me humble because it made
me you know, respect, you know a lot of things
because you know that life is not cool. You know,
I don't condone it. So me seeing that, like and
then you know, my dad going to prison and leaving
and coming back and leaving again, going to prison, I
just I just had a different type of respect, you
(17:17):
know what I'm saying for for people that you know
that's in their life. And then I try to like,
you know, talk to these young guys now you know
what I'm saying and telling them to listen, Bro, you
can't be doing that, you know what I'm saying. You
gotta do this the right way, you know. And a
lot of people like drawn to me because they see me.
I'm a positive guy. You know, I'm not a sucker.
But I'm also because for you to do good in life.
(17:38):
You don't got to be a sucker, you know what
I'm saying. A lot I feel like a lot of
people feel like that, like for you to be a
good person and do good in life, whether you've got
a career or whether you're working or off, they feel
like it's a sucker. Now, that's not a s as
a room man, you know what I'm saying. That's a
real man. Is a guy to take care his family,
Take care his moms, take his father, you know what
I'm saying, take his his kids. You know, that's a
real man.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Love that.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
You know. Being in the street and acting like a
bad boy, now it's not cool. You know.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Well, now you're doing this to take care of your family.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Give me one last down the lens Prediction July twelfth.
You step in that ring across from you is Humza Hiraz.
The bell rings.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
What happens? Tell the people? So here he is man
egar Verlanga.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Once again, he's won half of your main events. Stay
tuned July twelfth from the Louis Armstrong Stadium. Thanks to
the ring, it's the way concept.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
What happens?
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Then?
Speaker 2 (18:33):
I don't have those answers, but I guess we'll find
out
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.