Donald Trump' proposed UFC White House Event has the likes of Conor McGregor and Dana White on board but the most interesting thing just happened. Jon Jones just came out of retirement.. After 2 weeks
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, so we are back on the way Coons
represented it by the Ring. And today I have one
of the weirdest yet most awesome things potentially that I
could talk about on this channel. We live in such
an odd timeline in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
We're on one hand, we are on the.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Fourth of July watching Joey Chestnut stuff seventy and a
half hot dogs down his gullet, whilst there is chaos
all across the world, and politically here in America it's turmoil.
It feels like every day something that's either great for
your side of the political out comes out or terrible
and you want to just pull.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Your hair out.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
In the same sentence, where foreign affairs are all over
the place, and it seems like at any moment World
War three could potentially happen. And yet today, or I
guess yesterday, we got the announcement that Donald Trump, the
President of the United States, would like to hold a
America's two hundred and fiftieth Birthday celebration next year twenty
(00:56):
twenty sixth, on the fourth of July, because it will
be the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of Independence Day
here in America. He would like to hold a UFC
event on the front lawn of the White House. And
just as that was announced, two of the UFC's biggest
names that have most recently either retired in the case
of John Jones literally two weeks ago, or been Mia
(01:21):
and I'm not talking about Miami at least this time
for one. Connor McGregor piped up and said, yes, please,
I would love to be a part of that, while
Dana White seemingly confirmed that he wants to do it
as well. This really may be happening, and it may
have just brought John Jones back to the sport less
than two weeks after he retired, and brought Connor McGregor
(01:42):
back to the octagon for the first time in three years.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
What do I mean the breakdown?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Let's go so yeah, I'm just gonna start with the
video that started this whole thing.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Here's Donald Trump talking about celebrating.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
The United States is two hundred and fiftieth anniversary with
a UFC event.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I even think we're gonna have a uf SEA fight.
We're gonna have does anybody watch UFC the Great Dana Well,
We're gonna have a UFC fight. We're gonna have a
UFC fight. Think of this on the grounds of the
White House. We have a lot of land there. We're
gonna build a little We're not Dani's gonna do it.
Daniel's great, one of a kind. We gonna have a
(02:18):
UFC fight championship fight, full fight, like twenty eight twenty
five thousand people, and we're gonna do that as part
of two fifty.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Also, here's the thing, I don't care what side of
the political isl you're on. To me, this is pretty awesome.
Now again, I'm not one to get super political here.
And I saw people talking about, oh, this, this is political,
and Dana White says he's not political. I don't even
look at this as a political issue. I look at
this as the President of the United States using a
sport that he likes to showcase how great America is
(02:48):
in twenty twenty five, well twenty twenty six, when it
will happened, and politically motivated or not, is something I
think goes well with the idea of what America is.
A place that is in one hand so beautiful and
unique and in the other complete.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Chaotic and almost cartoon like in a way.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
And again, I love we can have a fight on
the grounds of the White House in front of twenty
five thousand people.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
This is awesome to me.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
And it seems like it's not just you know, cannon
fodder here from Donald Trump. Because Dana White is reposting it,
dy Know White reposting it on his Instagram, the UFC
retweeting it on their Twitter. This doesn't seem like just
a haha, great funny moment there. Trump.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
We're gonna move on and act like you didn't say that.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
It seems like, oh, hey, well maybe this could potentially
be a real thing. And as soon as that became
a real thing, and we're gonna focus mainly on John
Jones in this video. But it does need to be
said that Connor McGregor has been the most vocal fighter
about potentially being on this car has He tweeted halfy
fourth of July USA excited President Trump announcing a UFC
fight event at the White House.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I would love to be honored.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Count me in. I would be honored. Excuse me, count
me in. And then there's a picture of him and Donald.
Look it. He just looks like he is Dennis the
Menace in real form. Man Connor just all looks like
he's up to some weird, sadistic shit. And then someone
asked groc will Connor be at the White House? Connor's
expressed strong interest in fighting at the White House, and
then Connor quote tweets it with a direct message, two
(04:12):
of which to Dana White, and then Dana responds, I
love it so again you can see Connor. The only
place where disputes truly get settled the White House, where
Connor is yet again goating Michael Chandler into a fight.
And I feel like we should put the Titanic meme
up because it's been forty years. It feels like since
(04:34):
Conor and Michael Chandler decided they were going to fight
each other. I'm pretty sure this is supposed to be
Ai Trump in the background and both of them facing
off on the grounds of the White House. Jesus, and
then we have Connor tweeting once again. Fourth of July
next year is a Saturday regarding President Trump's you have
c White House event. I will be reigning President of
Ireland just under one year when I step out on
(04:56):
the lawns of the White House to throw down epic proportions,
or as I like to call it, Tuesday at the
office vote McGregor. I highly doubt that Connor McGregor is
gonna be the next president of Ireland, but I have
no idea about politics over there, just as much as
I don't really know about politics here. Regardless, Connor is
fired up. I have not seen Connor this fired up
about a fight since Dustin Portier two and three. Honestly,
(05:18):
he wasn't even this fired up about fighting Michael Chandler
while he was coaching against him on The Ultimate Fighter.
Like this has gotten Connor's attention, and you can see
clearly when he's invested versus when he isn't. Now what
I like for Connor McGregor to main event a UFC
white House event?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Sure, why not? That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
It would be historic for the UFC. It'd be awesome
for the sport of MMA. Again, people are gonna cry
on Twitter about it being political. I don't really give
It's an awesome event in a wacky world that already
is MMA. I mean, let's be honest, This sport is
not some buttoned up, bureaucratic, white collar sport. And that
was kind of the reason people didn't like boxing for
the longest time.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Is because it felt too.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Rigid in the high class kind of bourgeois nature. Owe
the sport turned people off. MMA has never done that.
It's a fighter's fighters sport, it's a fan favorite sport.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
It's a wacky world they live in.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
So I think this would be an awesome event, and
Connor clearly is fired up. But the bigger story here
is John Jones, because why I will see Connor tweet
about wanting to fight here and the pictures of Michael
Chandler and all that. On the other side, we have
John Jones who piped up about this fight card and
wanting to be a part of it, where he said
fighting at the White House with the eyeball emojis, and
then he also tweeted this This is from ESPN MMA. John
(06:30):
Jones posted this on the social media less than two
weeks after announcing his retirement for MMA. John said, just
re entered the testing pool that lasted for about two weeks.
Figured we keep everyone's options open now again, It's one
thing if you're Connor McGregor to tweet about wanting to
fight at this as of right now potential UFC White
House event July four, twenty twenty six, But It's another
(06:52):
thing if you're John Jones to enter the testing pool
two weeks or less than two weeks after you've retired
and given up your heavyweight championship belt to potentially fight
at this event or maybe before that. And I'm not
saying that either guy is going to fight in this
event or at all. This could just be hey, I'm
bored on social media on the fourth of July, and
John's case probably because no one wants to hang out
(07:14):
with him because when they get too drunk, he acts
like a complete psycho and endangerous people. And for Connor's case,
they also, well, yeah, that's probably for both guys, to
be honest. But if John really is re entering the
testing pool, this opens up the idea of potential super
fights for John Jones, because the one thing that I
think everyone had asked about John Jones and from John
(07:34):
Jones when he was stalling the heavyweight division and holding
onto the belt was that John dropped the belt if
he wanted to do super fights and have Tom Askman,
I'll become your undisputed heavyweight champion. And for the longest time,
that's what drove people away from the John Jones show
at least. One of the things, on top of the
many other things we've talked about in John's past is
(07:57):
allegations the things.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
He actually did thee these all.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Now you don't have that obstacle, and I wonder, and
I want to ask you guys, would you be more
interested in watching a John Jones fight now that he's not.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Holding up the heavyweight division?
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Would you be more interested in a potential super fight
for John Jones if he's not holding up the division?
Could it be tom Aspinall. Sure, Let's say tom Aspinall
goes and beats Surreal God, who's most likely going to
be next for him? And then John is there waiting
for the actual undisputed champion in tom Aspinall. Maybe that's
the case, or maybe John wants a super fight with
the incoming heavyweight Alex Pereira. Poeton not saying that's even
(08:34):
plausible right now, because it seems like Perera wants to
have his rematch versus Macha bet on Calia. The point
is that fight is there a year from now, in
twenty twenty six, after Pooton does his business at light heavyweight,
would you be interested in that fight? Because I certainly would.
I think that's an interesting fight for John Jones and
one that if he doesn't want to fight Tom aspinall
(08:54):
keeps him away from doing that, whilst also allowing us
to keep the heavyweight division moving and Poeton John is
a one off super fight. Let's say a year from now,
Dana White finds a way to make peace with Francis
and Ganu. I think he only has one fight left
on his PFL deal, maybe two, I don't really know. Regardless,
let's see if that potentially could happen, because Francis walking
right back into the heavyweight division, sure, him versus Tom
(09:16):
Asmenal would be massive as the fight that probably most
people would want. Francis never lost his belt officially, Tom
if he's still the champion at that point, which I
assume he will be, that would be a fight to make,
but also potentially a super fight there for John Jones
as well. What I'm trying to say is this opens
up options for John Jones. If he's truly not having
(09:36):
any interest in fighting Tom Aspenal, that would be disappointing
for sure, and honestly, the most interesting fight that you
can make for John Jones right now is the one
that's been avoided like the plague, but now does have
a bit of a different dynamic. Should Tom Asminal go
and get two or three more wins at heavyweight the
rest of this year, in the first part of next year,
all of a sudden, Tom Aspenall becomes not only a
(09:57):
viable heavyweight champion, but one that is kind of of
the big draw for John Jones. The one thing that
John has said Tom isn't he's here today, gone tomorrow.
He's not a big draw. He's not gonna be remembered.
If Tom gets a couple of those wins, all of
a sudden, he has a lot of those attributes that
John would be looking for in a heavyweight fight. A
number goes up, it's at a historic event. Maybe that's
the final straw that pulls John Jones into a Tom
(10:20):
Aspinall fight. Regardless, I love that fight, I love that idea,
and I think it's more, honestly right now, more of
a reality for John to fight than even Connor McGregor.
As much as he's saying I want to do it,
I want to do it. Connor's talking about also running
for office in Ireland. Do you really think if he's
(10:40):
truly honest and serious about that that Connor McGregor can
both balance being a UFC fighter and trying to run
for political office in Ireland. The answer is no, because
right now Connor McGregor can't even balance on his yacht
while the waves come in while also being a part
owner of BKFC and then seriously trying to fight.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
None of these things are working as it is.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
If Connor's actually trying to run for political office, it's
going to not work. Even more like, if this is
the only thing driving Connor's passion for fighting, sure, okay,
Like I'm down if you want to do that as
the main event, and I'm throwing more cold water on that,
and I have to do after a dream I've had
about the Chloe concept. The point is, if I'm gonna
pick between John and Connor on this, I'll call it
(11:21):
fictitious white House event that Donald Trump is potentially creating.
I think John's more likely to fight, I'll be honest
with you. He doesn't have the money Connor has and
have the opportunities outside of fighting that Connor has. Quite frankly,
John's a better fighter even now at his age than
Connor was at a division that if he comes back,
there's one real threat to him in tom aspinall and
(11:42):
if he's able to do that, John goes down. If
he isn't already the greatest ever, he will go down
as the greatest fighter to have ever lived. So as
much as everybody is gonna say please John, stay retired,
stay retired, stay retired, I'm gonna go the opposite way
here and.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Say, nah, I want to see it. I can't lie.
I want to see I want to see this event.
Give a shit.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
How many people cry about it being political and all
this other stuff.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
It's cool to me.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
It's a pretty sick way to celebrate America. And even
if it is political, if you're telling me that, that's
what it takes is President Trump to say, hey, we're
going to do an event on the grounds of the
White House to get two of the biggest names in
MMA to come back and actually fight.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I'm so old.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
And as much as you guys are probably gonna complain
about me saying that you will watch it too, and
you're lying to yourself if you're going to sit there
and say you won't oll shit before you get on
your high horse and talk about how this isn't needed,
or we don't want John, or we don't want Connor,
or it's all political, and it's this and that. Y'all
are the same people that are complaining that the UFC
(12:39):
is watered down, they don't do enough unique stuff, that
they aren't trying to innovate, and that they've lost their fastball.
You cannot sit there with a straight face and tell
me that if the UFC puts on an event at
the White House for twenty five thousand on the front
lawn and get either Connor McGregor or John Jones potentially
and so wacky world both of them on the card,
(13:02):
lace it up with American Fighters championship bouts throughout, and
put on one of the most unique cards that's ever
been made that you wouldn't watch or that it wouldn't
pump you up just a little bit, because that is
something the sport is lacking. Not every event needing to
be at the White House, but just something unique.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
And fresh and a little whacky.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, I'll say I think if the right fights can
be made, Connor and Michael Chandler still is a fight
that to me makes sense, John versus potentially really any
super fight to me makes sense. Sure, Okay, Tom Aspinall
should be the one. But if it isn't that we're
talking about a year from now, maybe the UFC can
find a way to get Francis and gan Who back in,
or let's see what happens with Poeton at light heavyweight.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Either way, I think this is sick.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
And if this was the final straw to get John
to come out of retirement or to rethink retirement and
to get Connor McGregor some passion back into the sport,
then you have the answer for what's lacking in MMA
right now from the fan perspective, from the company perspective,
and from the fighter perspective.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
And no, to me least, it's not the love.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
For Donald Trump and the Trump Glazefest or whatever it
is that you guys are going to complain about in
the comments. It is something unique that fighters have never done,
that they never have imagined, that makes them go. You
know what, I don't want to miss being on that card.
You know what I don't want to miss being a
part of history that, ladies and gentlemen, is what will
(14:22):
bring your big stars back and hopefully in front of
the eyes of the nation of the United States obviously,
and hopefully the rest of the world can create new
stars for you. But again, everything's hypothetical. I don't know
if this is even going to happen. I'm just giving
you my thoughts on the news as it comes out.
Is this Donald Trump UFC White House event plausible?
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah? Sure? Is it possible? Maybe? Will it happen?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
And is John Jones really unretired? Is he really coming
back to the sport? And is Conor McGregor actually going
to fight on this plausible, possible card whilst being the
President of Ireland. I know it sounds wacky and quite frankly,
I'm not sure I belie eve any of it, but
I don't have those answers. So one year from today,
in the good old US of Ay on the grounds
(15:07):
of the White House, it's possible that we have an
event like no other.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
What happens then? Who had lines? Who is on this card?
Don't have those answers, so I guess we'll find out
All right, so we are back on the way Coons
represented it by the Ring. And today I have one
of the weirdest yet most awesome things potentially that I
could talk about on this channel. We live in such
an odd timeline in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
We're on one hand, we are on the.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Fourth of July watching Joey Chestnut stuff seventy and a
half hot dogs down his gullet, whilst there is chaos
all across the world, and politically here in America it's turmoil.
It feels like every day something that's either great for
your side of the political out comes out or terrible
and you want to just pull.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Your hair out.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
In the same sentence, where foreign affairs are all over
the place, and it seems like at any moment World
War three could potentially happen. And yet today, or I
guess yesterday, we got the announcement that Donald Trump, the
President of the United States, would like to hold a
America's two hundred and fiftieth Birthday celebration next year twenty
(00:56):
twenty sixth, on the fourth of July, because it will
be the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of Independence Day
here in America. He would like to hold a UFC
event on the front lawn of the White House. And
just as that was announced, two of the UFC's biggest
names that have most recently either retired in the case
of John Jones literally two weeks ago, or been Mia
(01:21):
and I'm not talking about Miami at least this time
for one. Connor McGregor piped up and said, yes, please,
I would love to be a part of that, while
Dana White seemingly confirmed that he wants to do it
as well. This really may be happening, and it may
have just brought John Jones back to the sport less
than two weeks after he retired, and brought Connor McGregor
(01:42):
back to the octagon for the first time in three years.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
What do I mean the breakdown?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Let's go so yeah, I'm just gonna start with the
video that started this whole thing.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Here's Donald Trump talking about celebrating.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
The United States is two hundred and fiftieth anniversary with
a UFC event.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I even think we're gonna have a uf SEA fight.
We're gonna have does anybody watch UFC the Great Dana Well,
We're gonna have a UFC fight. We're gonna have a
UFC fight. Think of this on the grounds of the
White House. We have a lot of land there. We're
gonna build a little We're not Dani's gonna do it.
Daniel's great, one of a kind. We gonna have a
(02:18):
UFC fight championship fight, full fight, like twenty eight twenty
five thousand people, and we're gonna do that as part
of two fifty.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Also, here's the thing, I don't care what side of
the political isl you're on. To me, this is pretty awesome.
Now again, I'm not one to get super political here.
And I saw people talking about, oh, this, this is political,
and Dana White says he's not political. I don't even
look at this as a political issue. I look at
this as the President of the United States using a
sport that he likes to showcase how great America is
(02:48):
in twenty twenty five, well twenty twenty six, when it
will happened, and politically motivated or not, is something I
think goes well with the idea of what America is.
A place that is in one hand so beautiful and
unique and in the other complete.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Chaotic and almost cartoon like in a way.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
And again, I love we can have a fight on
the grounds of the White House in front of twenty
five thousand people.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
This is awesome to me.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
And it seems like it's not just you know, cannon
fodder here from Donald Trump. Because Dana White is reposting it,
dy Know White reposting it on his Instagram, the UFC
retweeting it on their Twitter. This doesn't seem like just
a haha, great funny moment there. Trump.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
We're gonna move on and act like you didn't say that.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
It seems like, oh, hey, well maybe this could potentially
be a real thing. And as soon as that became
a real thing, and we're gonna focus mainly on John
Jones in this video. But it does need to be
said that Connor McGregor has been the most vocal fighter
about potentially being on this car has He tweeted halfy
fourth of July USA excited President Trump announcing a UFC
fight event at the White House.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I would love to be honored.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Count me in. I would be honored. Excuse me, count
me in. And then there's a picture of him and Donald.
Look it. He just looks like he is Dennis the
Menace in real form. Man Connor just all looks like
he's up to some weird, sadistic shit. And then someone
asked groc will Connor be at the White House? Connor's
expressed strong interest in fighting at the White House, and
then Connor quote tweets it with a direct message, two
(04:12):
of which to Dana White, and then Dana responds, I
love it so again you can see Connor. The only
place where disputes truly get settled the White House, where
Connor is yet again goating Michael Chandler into a fight.
And I feel like we should put the Titanic meme
up because it's been forty years. It feels like since
(04:34):
Conor and Michael Chandler decided they were going to fight
each other. I'm pretty sure this is supposed to be
Ai Trump in the background and both of them facing
off on the grounds of the White House. Jesus, and
then we have Connor tweeting once again. Fourth of July
next year is a Saturday regarding President Trump's you have
c White House event. I will be reigning President of
Ireland just under one year when I step out on
(04:56):
the lawns of the White House to throw down epic proportions,
or as I like to call it, Tuesday at the
office vote McGregor. I highly doubt that Connor McGregor is
gonna be the next president of Ireland, but I have
no idea about politics over there, just as much as
I don't really know about politics here. Regardless, Connor is
fired up. I have not seen Connor this fired up
about a fight since Dustin Portier two and three. Honestly,
(05:18):
he wasn't even this fired up about fighting Michael Chandler
while he was coaching against him on The Ultimate Fighter.
Like this has gotten Connor's attention, and you can see
clearly when he's invested versus when he isn't. Now what
I like for Connor McGregor to main event a UFC
white House event?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Sure, why not? That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
It would be historic for the UFC. It'd be awesome
for the sport of MMA. Again, people are gonna cry
on Twitter about it being political. I don't really give
It's an awesome event in a wacky world that already
is MMA. I mean, let's be honest, This sport is
not some buttoned up, bureaucratic, white collar sport. And that
was kind of the reason people didn't like boxing for
the longest time.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Is because it felt too.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Rigid in the high class kind of bourgeois nature. Owe
the sport turned people off. MMA has never done that.
It's a fighter's fighters sport, it's a fan favorite sport.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
It's a wacky world they live in.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
So I think this would be an awesome event, and
Connor clearly is fired up. But the bigger story here
is John Jones, because why I will see Connor tweet
about wanting to fight here and the pictures of Michael
Chandler and all that. On the other side, we have
John Jones who piped up about this fight card and
wanting to be a part of it, where he said
fighting at the White House with the eyeball emojis, and
then he also tweeted this This is from ESPN MMA. John
(06:30):
Jones posted this on the social media less than two
weeks after announcing his retirement for MMA. John said, just
re entered the testing pool that lasted for about two weeks.
Figured we keep everyone's options open now again, It's one
thing if you're Connor McGregor to tweet about wanting to
fight at this as of right now potential UFC White
House event July four, twenty twenty six, But It's another
(06:52):
thing if you're John Jones to enter the testing pool
two weeks or less than two weeks after you've retired
and given up your heavyweight championship belt to potentially fight
at this event or maybe before that. And I'm not
saying that either guy is going to fight in this
event or at all. This could just be hey, I'm
bored on social media on the fourth of July, and
John's case probably because no one wants to hang out
(07:14):
with him because when they get too drunk, he acts
like a complete psycho and endangerous people. And for Connor's case,
they also, well, yeah, that's probably for both guys, to
be honest. But if John really is re entering the
testing pool, this opens up the idea of potential super
fights for John Jones, because the one thing that I
think everyone had asked about John Jones and from John
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Jones when he was stalling the heavyweight division and holding
onto the belt was that John dropped the belt if
he wanted to do super fights and have Tom Askman,
I'll become your undisputed heavyweight champion. And for the longest time,
that's what drove people away from the John Jones show
at least. One of the things, on top of the
many other things we've talked about in John's past is
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allegations the things.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
He actually did thee these all.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Now you don't have that obstacle, and I wonder, and
I want to ask you guys, would you be more
interested in watching a John Jones fight now that he's not.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Holding up the heavyweight division?
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Would you be more interested in a potential super fight
for John Jones if he's not holding up the division?
Could it be tom Aspinall. Sure, Let's say tom Aspinall
goes and beats Surreal God, who's most likely going to
be next for him? And then John is there waiting
for the actual undisputed champion in tom Aspinall. Maybe that's
the case, or maybe John wants a super fight with
the incoming heavyweight Alex Pereira. Poeton not saying that's even
(08:34):
plausible right now, because it seems like Perera wants to
have his rematch versus Macha bet on Calia. The point
is that fight is there a year from now, in
twenty twenty six, after Pooton does his business at light heavyweight,
would you be interested in that fight? Because I certainly would.
I think that's an interesting fight for John Jones and
one that if he doesn't want to fight Tom aspinall
(08:54):
keeps him away from doing that, whilst also allowing us
to keep the heavyweight division moving and Poeton John is
a one off super fight. Let's say a year from now,
Dana White finds a way to make peace with Francis
and Ganu. I think he only has one fight left
on his PFL deal, maybe two, I don't really know. Regardless,
let's see if that potentially could happen, because Francis walking
right back into the heavyweight division, sure, him versus Tom
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Asmenal would be massive as the fight that probably most
people would want. Francis never lost his belt officially, Tom
if he's still the champion at that point, which I
assume he will be, that would be a fight to make,
but also potentially a super fight there for John Jones
as well. What I'm trying to say is this opens
up options for John Jones. If he's truly not having
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any interest in fighting Tom Aspenal, that would be disappointing
for sure, and honestly, the most interesting fight that you
can make for John Jones right now is the one
that's been avoided like the plague, but now does have
a bit of a different dynamic. Should Tom Asminal go
and get two or three more wins at heavyweight the
rest of this year, in the first part of next year,
all of a sudden, Tom Aspenall becomes not only a
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viable heavyweight champion, but one that is kind of of
the big draw for John Jones. The one thing that
John has said Tom isn't he's here today, gone tomorrow.
He's not a big draw. He's not gonna be remembered.
If Tom gets a couple of those wins, all of
a sudden, he has a lot of those attributes that
John would be looking for in a heavyweight fight. A
number goes up, it's at a historic event. Maybe that's
the final straw that pulls John Jones into a Tom
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Aspinall fight. Regardless, I love that fight, I love that idea,
and I think it's more, honestly right now, more of
a reality for John to fight than even Connor McGregor.
As much as he's saying I want to do it,
I want to do it. Connor's talking about also running
for office in Ireland. Do you really think if he's
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truly honest and serious about that that Connor McGregor can
both balance being a UFC fighter and trying to run
for political office in Ireland. The answer is no, because
right now Connor McGregor can't even balance on his yacht
while the waves come in while also being a part
owner of BKFC and then seriously trying to fight.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
None of these things are working as it is.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
If Connor's actually trying to run for political office, it's
going to not work. Even more like, if this is
the only thing driving Connor's passion for fighting, sure, okay,
Like I'm down if you want to do that as
the main event, and I'm throwing more cold water on that,
and I have to do after a dream I've had
about the Chloe concept. The point is, if I'm gonna
pick between John and Connor on this, I'll call it
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fictitious white House event that Donald Trump is potentially creating.
I think John's more likely to fight, I'll be honest
with you. He doesn't have the money Connor has and
have the opportunities outside of fighting that Connor has. Quite frankly,
John's a better fighter even now at his age than
Connor was at a division that if he comes back,
there's one real threat to him in tom aspinall and
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if he's able to do that, John goes down. If
he isn't already the greatest ever, he will go down
as the greatest fighter to have ever lived. So as
much as everybody is gonna say please John, stay retired,
stay retired, stay retired, I'm gonna go the opposite way
here and.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Say, nah, I want to see it. I can't lie.
I want to see I want to see this event.
Give a shit.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
How many people cry about it being political and all
this other stuff.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
It's cool to me.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
It's a pretty sick way to celebrate America. And even
if it is political, if you're telling me that, that's
what it takes is President Trump to say, hey, we're
going to do an event on the grounds of the
White House to get two of the biggest names in
MMA to come back and actually fight.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I'm so old.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
And as much as you guys are probably gonna complain
about me saying that you will watch it too, and
you're lying to yourself if you're going to sit there
and say you won't oll shit before you get on
your high horse and talk about how this isn't needed,
or we don't want John, or we don't want Connor,
or it's all political, and it's this and that. Y'all
are the same people that are complaining that the UFC
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is watered down, they don't do enough unique stuff, that
they aren't trying to innovate, and that they've lost their fastball.
You cannot sit there with a straight face and tell
me that if the UFC puts on an event at
the White House for twenty five thousand on the front
lawn and get either Connor McGregor or John Jones potentially
and so wacky world both of them on the card,
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lace it up with American Fighters championship bouts throughout, and
put on one of the most unique cards that's ever
been made that you wouldn't watch or that it wouldn't
pump you up just a little bit, because that is
something the sport is lacking. Not every event needing to
be at the White House, but just something unique.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
And fresh and a little whacky.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, I'll say I think if the right fights can
be made, Connor and Michael Chandler still is a fight
that to me makes sense, John versus potentially really any
super fight to me makes sense. Sure, Okay, Tom Aspinall
should be the one. But if it isn't that we're
talking about a year from now, maybe the UFC can
find a way to get Francis and gan Who back in,
or let's see what happens with Poeton at light heavyweight.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Either way, I think this is sick.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
And if this was the final straw to get John
to come out of retirement or to rethink retirement and
to get Connor McGregor some passion back into the sport,
then you have the answer for what's lacking in MMA
right now from the fan perspective, from the company perspective,
and from the fighter perspective.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
And no, to me least, it's not the love.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
For Donald Trump and the Trump Glazefest or whatever it
is that you guys are going to complain about in
the comments. It is something unique that fighters have never done,
that they never have imagined, that makes them go. You
know what, I don't want to miss being on that card.
You know what I don't want to miss being a
part of history that, ladies and gentlemen, is what will
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bring your big stars back and hopefully in front of
the eyes of the nation of the United States obviously,
and hopefully the rest of the world can create new
stars for you. But again, everything's hypothetical. I don't know
if this is even going to happen. I'm just giving
you my thoughts on the news as it comes out.
Is this Donald Trump UFC White House event plausible?
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah? Sure? Is it possible? Maybe? Will it happen?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
And is John Jones really unretired? Is he really coming
back to the sport? And is Conor McGregor actually going
to fight on this plausible, possible card whilst being the
President of Ireland. I know it sounds wacky and quite frankly,
I'm not sure I belie eve any of it, but
I don't have those answers. So one year from today,
in the good old US of Ay on the grounds
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of the White House, it's possible that we have an
event like no other.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
What happens then? Who had lines? Who is on this card?
Don't have those answers, so I guess we'll find out
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