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July 15, 2025 • 11 mins

Wade reacts to KSI giving his ENTIRE Tommy Fury fight purse to his boxing coaches...

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The craziest thing that I saw this week was the
fact that ks I was on Chunks's show, which I
didn't know that Chunks had a podcast, but it's called
The Chunk Show, and he was talking about his purse
from the Tommy Fury fight, and folks, this is genuinely
insane what he says.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Forget the caption, let's just listen to what he had
to say.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
With my lost fight with Tommy Fury. My whole purse,
my whole purse. I gave it to my trainers. I
was like, bo cool, Like I didn't. I didn't, I
didn't need to pot No wait wait, wait, wait what
what Region zero's boat seven figures?

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Okay, so listen, are we for real?

Speaker 1 (00:42):
First off, before I before I blow a gasket, let's
just say this. That's a pretty cool thing for ks
I to do, right, that's really cool to say, you
know what.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
I have a ton of money. Money is not why
I do this. Here. Here you go for for training
me and preparing me for this fight. I get that.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
That's dope, right, Would I ever do that out of
your mind? No shot to put in the amount of
work that he had to put in for that fight
to take the time away from other stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
I'm getting my bread now.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
I'm not in the same financial category probably never will
be as mister bordering on billionaire over there.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
But how in the world do you give now?

Speaker 1 (01:19):
It says ten mil on the on the caption, and
I kind of got baited with that.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
He says seven figures, whatever the number was. How do
you get.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Brainwashed into thinking that that head coaching team deserved seven
figures after we find out that, you know, months down
the line, they're running him ragged in the gym, sometimes
training him twice a day, five days, sparring him, injecting
his hands with anesthetic for him to spark, like some
of the dumbest decisions you can make for a guy

(01:50):
like KSI, a cash cow, clearly like KSI to then go.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Here's here's seven figures.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Fucking crazy and listen, everybody can do whatever they want
with their money, right. I would never look at somebody
and be like, h unless they were like family or
you know, a close friend, and be like, hey, you're
probably you probably shouldn't be spending as much money as
you're spending on xy Z. Yes, I can do whatever
he wants his money, but this is genuinely like stupid
to do, because what it does is incentivizes the way

(02:18):
he's being trained, the way they are pushing him, and
honestly the brainwashing that's taking place. Because think about it
this way. First off, yes, the hand was injured for
the Tommy Fury fight. I have no problem with Cassi
going through with the Tommy Fury fight with a hand injury.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Things happen.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
You got to push through off the back of it,
to continue trying to push through it after you give
it a couple of weeks of rest or a month
of rest, and continue to push and push and push.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
I think is.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
A direct cause and effect situation from the ten milli,
seven milli, one milli whatever the seven.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Figures was that he gave the trainers.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
They went, shit, if he's gonna give us this kind
of money just to every time he fights, why not
just keep having him fight? Why not just push him
through whatever? The Kurt who cares.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
We gotta make our seven million, we gotta make our
five million whatever.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
I could be completely wrong, This could be nothing even
close to the situation. And I'm sure his coaches care
about him, but you can't tell me that there's no
money involved, and I'm hearing this kind of stuff. You
can't tell me there might not be alternate ulterior motives
when this kind of money is involved. Like I said,
I think it incentivizes this whole thing. And if you
are JJ, you don't know any better. That's another thing too,

(03:25):
you don't know any better. And this is why I
think it's extra kind of weird. Not from JJ, like
again maying his trainers is full purse, awesome, super generous
thing to do is to his trainers accepting the money.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Again, I can't blame I'm sure except the money.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Fine, But I'm just looking at this whole situation and
I'm going, man, I feel like he's getting taken advantage of.
I just I look at that and go, yeah, dude,
they're running your pockets. JJ's never been an athlete. I'm
not saying JJ's not an athletic guy. He's just never
done it outside of boxing. He never been in a
boxing gym before he met I think, And as far

(04:00):
as the business side of it, I don't think that
I'm out of linement saying that he's not very hands
on when it comes to looking into the business side
of these things and how boxing business works and how
these other financial sectors are. So when he's being pushed
at LSF and he sees all these other fighters, right,
he sees Michael vinem Page, and he sees he's in
me guys, and they're being pushed just as hard as

(04:21):
he is, He's probably like, Okay, shit.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
I'm in the right spot.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
These guys really are man there, and he's having results
fair play.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
They got him the result over Temper. They got him
the result. Well, they didn't get him the result in
Joe forty, but they beat Temper. He's pumped. He comes
close to beating Tommy Fury, so they're pumped. Look, I've
got it. I'm doing something right here.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
He probably just doesn't know any better, Like he knows
better than that trainers get a certain percentage. But I
don't know if he knows any better that they're working
him like a freaking mule over there, and they're milking
him like a cow. After I look at it, and
I think this is incentivization. And it explains a lot
about what happened after the Tommy Fury fight. It explains
a little bit more. It explains a bit of opponent

(04:59):
selection because let's be honest. After the Timmy Fury fight,
there were some names thrown out that weren't great opponents
for JJ to face next, And apparently, according to you know,
unnamed sources, that JJ's coaches have a lot of say
in who he fights. It explains a lot about pushing
through injuries multiple different times.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
It explains why they were.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Injecting his hands with anesthetics because I've never heard of
that ever.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
I'm just saying nefarious or not.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
It explains why the need for JJ to fight like
a normal fighter would be on the table. He's a
cash cow for misfits, but also he's the cash cow
for LSF. I think it becomes a bit of a
dilemma when you're having him in the gym completely in
his hand up, just so he can get a payday
on a two v one match with Slim, and at
that no one gave a fuck about or hey, let's

(05:49):
get him in there with Wayne Bridge so we could
have him fight, or even the Dylan Dannis thing. It
was like the high level opponent Kim getting better, actually
preparing him for a Jake Paul fight. We want to
get paid, That's what I don't know their Jim I
don't know how they operate. I don't know what their
their situation looks like. I'm sure they're balling now, you
know what I'm saying. I'm sure now money is not

(06:10):
an issue for LSF, you.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
But yeah, that's a bit of an eye opener. Not
because JJ shouldn't have given them, not because they shouldn't
have accepted it, because I know everybody over their works,
but it explains a lot about the way JJ is
utilized in that gym, and the opponent selection, the anesthetic
in the hands, the training when he wasn't even in camp,

(06:32):
the way he was trying to train, and how they
treat him like just a normal regular fighter when he's
not that. Jake Paul is making his entire life boxing.
That's not what JJ was doing. And the way they
pushed him and pushed him and pushed him to the brink.
I'll be honest, I think LSF ran JJ out of boxing.
I think that the grind they put him through, the
injuries he got, the way he was lifting weights, the
opponent selection, the lack of interest, the wear and tear,

(06:56):
and obviously the big fact that him not getting the
Jake fight but I think all of that can.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
They burned him out. They burned him out of the sport.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
They made him feel like this was his life, and
that's he's an adult, he's a big boy. He accepted that,
and again you could call it ignorance is bliss. He
just didn't know any better. This is what he's supposed
to do to get the Jake fighters what he's supposed
to do to get better.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Because he looks around and nobody else is JJ in
that gym, so okay, they're doing it. I'm doing it.
But I think they ran him out.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
I think they burn him out. It'll be interesting to
see if he goes back with him after this hand surgery.
Really really will be interesting to see.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
I thought they they had him sparring way too much.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Now, again, he's young in the game, so maybe you
gotta spar a lot their play. But think that they
were fun. They were they I think they were seriously
close to him up by the way they had him
lifting some of those exercises. I was like, you're gonna
hurt the kid. I mean, we were talking about this
two years ago when we watched those workout VIDs of
JJ and hiss me looks like it's gonna pop out

(07:48):
of socket for him squatting some weight that doesn't ever
need to be on his back bench pressing.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Some crazy weight for half a rep for no reason.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
It all makes sense now though, and also too again
we'll talk about this side of it, the incentivization of
coaching JJ at that point when you're when when he
gives up that full purse, it.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Can go one of two ways.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
And I'm not here to tell you which way it's
gonna go or did go, but you can say, wow,
that's super generous.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
We're gonna take care of you better because of that,
because we don't want to to have you hurt your hand.
We don't want all these things so that we can,
you know, continue to sing on or we have to
get every single thing we can out of this guy
because his time is sure in the sport, So we
need to run him again. If that's the payout we're getting,
we need to run him again and again and again
and again. So I tend to think it was the

(08:36):
second part. I tend to think they were like, we
need to really have him fight to make sure we
get this payoff because it's insane, and I think there's
a part of it that that again, JJ just looks
at his team like they are above everything else that
he could possibly ever get training wise, and he and
he respects it so much that man, these guys they
deserve that, and he's he's just wrong. But then again,

(08:57):
you know they do train. Cassi is a high profile
and he got paid a shit ton of money and
he gave it all up, So fair play, I guess.
But yeah, I saw that and I just couldn't believe it,
could not believe it because I'm pretty sure whatever's going
on with his hands is at least somewhat gonna be permanent.
Somewhat there's gonna be some permanent damage there, and that's
the game. That's boxing, that's what happens when you step
into this sport. It's a dangerous sport and it could

(09:18):
have been prevented. It definitely could have been at least
managed better if not for the continued mismanagement. I would
say that's gone on with JJ's career and London Shoot Fighter,
whether it was opponent selection, whether it was the way
he was training, the way he was lifting, the way
he was sparring, the way he was being taken care
of and eventually the way I think his career potentially,

(09:40):
because I believe there might be a little soft.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Tease of retirement coming.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Because of the way JJ talks about how he feels
when he fights, how he feels when he's boxing, how
it's miserable, how he doesn't like the person he is.
I think he's burned out on the sport, and I
think LSF has a big part of that. But you guys,
let me know down below. This was one of the
craziest things I saw this week. SI forking over seven
figures to the gym that probably permanently damaged his hand

(10:07):
and burned him out on the sport is a classic
what do you call it Stockholm syndrome?

Speaker 2 (10:11):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
The classic case of ignorance is bliss, a classic case
of rainwashing a fighter from a gym.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
But either way, it's completely it's generous, good it's a
good faith act, but it's completely insane. He's probably done
with the sport, at least in the short term, probably
in the long term without saying he's retired, because once
he says he's retired and misfits is gonna have a
real problem on their hands. But that was one of
the big things I wanted to make about this this
video is KSI t's in retirement, also completely delusional about

(10:41):
you know, his team and their worth compared to what
they've actually done for him and what happens next for him,
because I'm hearing he's either had surgery or's about to
have surgery when he comes back. Does he go back
to LSSEF Maybe maybe not. I think he would do
better with Gibbs team. I think he could do better
with BJ Flores. Think he can do better with a
ton of different people. But I think's gonna break him

(11:01):
if he goes back there, and it won't just be
his hand, it'll be something else. Because the way they train,
the way they spar the way they do things, it
gets you right, you know, it gets him in a
crazy physical shape, but it also leads to him doing
and having detrimental things go on in his personal life
and his professional life and his health and well being.

(11:22):
So I just think it's a bad idea all the
way around. And I think they've they've ran his pockets
and I want to say scammed him. I want to
go that far to say they've scammed him. But yeah,
and let me know what you guys think down below
what happens next. For KSI, I think he's he might
be done. I think he's probably done boxing.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
But that's just me. I don't have those answers, so
I guess we'll find out
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