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July 23, 2025 • 16 mins

Wade BREAKDOWN Dustin Poirers LAST EVER UFC Fight against Max Holloway...

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right. So UFC three to eighteen just ended, and

(00:03):
Max Holloway just beat Dustin Poier in his retirement fight
in New Orleans. It was a bittersweet fight. It was
one of those fights that you wanted to see both
guys win. Unfortunately that's not how fighting or really any
sports were. But Holloway wins two judges had a forty
nine forty six. I thought that was the right score.
Dustin Poa obviously a little upset, did not think so.

(00:24):
But I thought Max did enough to get it done.
A good back and forth start to the fight. But
eventually Max Holloway at one fifty five looks like a
different animal, and Dustin Poier still has dog left in him,
but I think it's the right time for him to
walk away. Let's talk about it and what it means
for the future of Max Holloway at this weight class.
To breakdown, let's go so, like I said, this was

(00:46):
a tough fight, back and forth. Max Holloway coming up
to fifty five, this is his new weight class, had
success obviously in the Justin Gaetchee fight, really kind of
outclass Justin Gaichie. The entirety of UFC three hundred then
the big right hand, the you know, historic viral knockout
right there at the end as he pointed to the ground,
he gets the BMF belt. And that moment was kind

(01:09):
of the christening of this one because Dustin Poorier looking
for someone to match up with in his retirement batt
why not do it for the BMF belt? Why not
do it in New Orleans at one hundred and fifty
five pounds, So the date was set. Now Poorier coming
into this two wins over Max Holloway, one in twenty twelve,
which is crazy, that was before some of you were born,
and the second one in twenty nineteen in the interim

(01:33):
title fight at one fifty five, Dustin's actual only title win.
Whether you want to call him a champion or not,
I think interim titles can be a good thing for
the sport, and honestly, I look at Dustin as a
champion even if he never held undisputed. And so the
fight started and Max Holloway, you know, coming into it,
the keys I thought for the fight kind of played
out in the way you thought the keys of this

(01:54):
fight would. As the first round he jumped on Dustin
Porty got very busy with his hands, started with the
body as well. Was having that stomp to the knee
implemented into Max's game. He's doing that more and more now.
But it was the bodykicks were just so clean from
Max just over and over working the body with that
back leg kick, and then he was going variety. He

(02:15):
was going hook right hand, he was going jab to
the body, right hand to the body, he was jab upstairs,
hook upstairs. And then eventually in the midst of all
that variety and the bodykicks and Dustin not really answering
punches with punches or answering attack with attack right looking
for counters. Dustin just kept evading, and that would become
a theme where Max would attack and Dustin, instead of

(02:36):
staying in the pocket head and movement or slipping off
center line looking the counter, would evade, pressure, reset, then
get back to the fray. I think that was one
of the biggest differences in this fight and one of
the biggest reasons the fight ended up going Max's way completely.
Was it Dustin was never willing to meet and exchange.
It was only let's reset my turn, your turn. I'm

(02:57):
getting out of here, reset my turn. I didn't like
that for Dustin. But it was very effective for Max
because he had no resistance on some of these combination punches.
And in the first round he stunned and shocked Dustin.
Poier hit him with a nasty hook right hand. It
was one of his best go tos with the punches.
Corral you with the hook, right hand down the pipe,
drops Dustin and really had him hurt badly. And you

(03:18):
wondered about the psychological effect of this whole thing for Dustin. Poorier.
You know, it's his last fight. Lil Wayne was supposed
to perform, doesn't able to. But he's walking him out.
You know, he said this is the best cut he's
ever made. He's got letters fans are sending him. They're
making him read it before the fight, talking about thank
you for all you've done for me in your career.
He's all emotional, no excuses. My point is all of

(03:38):
it comes to a point in this first round where
I go, oh my god, we may not even get
out of the first three minutes of this fight, and
that's how this is going to end. I thought Max
was going to finish him in the first round. He
almost did. But Dustin, you know, he's a veteran, he's savvy,
he got back to his feet, he's tough as nails.
Back Max off a little bit and survived the round,
but going into the second, that was a huge round

(03:59):
for Max hollow and again it showed you very quickly
that Max was here to do what he said he
was going to do, spoil the party, look to potentially
get his name into the top three or four at lightweight.
I think he's number four right now, and use this
momentum to build toward to potentially a rematch with Illiot's
to Poria. All things going his way, and then the
second round start and in the second round Max is
having a ton of success again and again it's all

(04:19):
off that same unspoken agreement that they both have made
now where Max is going to throw volume and Dustin
is looking for one big shot. Honestly, it did look
a lot like the first fight for Dustin Pourier because
he looked to hit that switch that he hit on
Max multiple times in the first fight, where he would
throw out of southpaw his backhand as a lead punch

(04:40):
because Dustin, I don't know if you guys know, but
it's pretty clear is not a natural southpaw. He is
a right handed person fighting southpaw to have advantages and
power in his lead hand. Look at a lot of
the shots that Dustin hits people with that knocks them
out in was Saint any Connor McGregor. The list goes on.
It's his right hand and it's out of the south
paw position sometimes, or it's out of that switch lead backhand,

(05:03):
stepped forward, backhand now becomes the right hand, his powerful hand.
Cracked them with the backhand there, that's what usually he's
able to put guys away with. And he was looking
for that shot all throughout this fight because he hurt
Max multiple times in their second fight with and in
the second round, Sure as shit, Dustin Pourier found it,
and he found it after Max Holloway had done well

(05:26):
and gotten a huge lead in the second round, because
Dustin was so hesitant or because he would try to
hit that switch coming into range and didn't really follow
with anything. So Max was like, cool, double jab, right hand,
kick to the body, left hook, push off and get
back to where he was comfortable and Dustin didn't have
anything for him until Dustin got hit again, got tagged again,

(05:47):
got wobbled a bit again in that second round and
knew potentially the only way to survive that round and
get back into this fight was to bite down on
that mouthpiece and bring the fight to Max Holloway. And
he did that in that exchange in the second round.
He did that, and there was very few exchanges where
he did that going forward. He had success in this fight,
no doubt about it. Dustin had moments he had success.

(06:09):
He would land his backhand, he would land a nice
powerful jab his hook backhand, but he didn't have continued
success like he did in this moment because he was
unwilling to continue combination punching forward. He was unwilling to
get back into that fray, into that firefight, into that trade.
And I think I know why, and we'll talk about
it at the latter part of this fight. But in

(06:30):
that second round they get into an exchange and Dustin
hits him with a nasty right hand behind the ear
and Max hits the floor. I was losing my mind, folks.
This bright here was potentially the moment where Dustin Poier
was gonna win it in his hometown or close to it,
in New Orleans. He's from Lafayette, but he was gonna

(06:50):
do it and instead of following up, and it wouldn't
be Dustin Poier if you didn't do this. But instead
of following up, he jumps a guilloty, don't be silly,
jumped a gilly. He did it again. Uh, it was
ill advised. He shouldn't have done it. He could have
potentially finished Max there, but he only had a couple
seconds left jump the gilly. Max popped his head out.
Dustin tried to hit him with some more ground and pound,
but that's the end of the round. I gave that

(07:12):
round to Dustin Poier slightly because Max did so much
good work to begin but that into the round I
thought was enough for him to come back and win that.
But coming into the third round, you built some momentum there.
If you're Dustin Poier, you know what works. You just
hurt Max by fighting him in close by throwing a
little caution to the wind and doing a little bit
of dirty boxing inside close quarters combat. But the third

(07:34):
round Max got back to doing what he does best,
sack at his kick range anytime Dustin wanted to blitz boom,
kick to the body anytime Dustin came in without a
jab and He did this a lot out of the
south past stance. He wanted to lead with his backhand,
which would mean he would lean and lunch forward toward Max.
And once you throw your back hand, even out of
orthodox or south Paul, you throw that back hand and

(07:56):
you lean over that lead leg, you don't have another
follow up unless you go with the lead hand behind it.
Even then you don't have a follow up after that.
The way Max throws the proper orthodox stance, He's like, cool,
throw that one shot. Here's a double jab right hand
behind it. I can reset now my hook right hand
comes behind that body kick behind that. And it was
just so repetitive that Dustin was getting caught off balance

(08:19):
overthrowing non committal on offense and Max would counter him.
Whereas on the other side, when Max went first and
he wanted to throw his combinations and he wanted to
throw his one two or his hook right hand, and
Dustin could be there to potentially throw that backhand or
hell just answer with his own lead hook backhand. Dustin

(08:40):
would stand, slide away, try to reset the action and
get started again. I thought that was the biggest misstep
that Dustin had in this fight. Was not committing fully
to his offense, and then when Max committed fully to
his Dustin allowing him to do so without being punished
for it. Max was punishing Dustin for being noncommittal. Max
was even punishing Dustin for committed, but Dustin wasn't willing
to do this, or just didn't have the ability to

(09:01):
do the same, or timing or just whatever. But that
was the big difference in the fight. To me, got
Max when he wanted to be on offense, when he
wanted to go first, was committed to it, knew what
he wanted to do, knew what he wanted to get to,
knew where his advantages were, how he was going to
be successful, and did it. Dustin a little unsure. I
thought Max won the third round. I thought he won
the fourth round. And I talk to you guys earlier

(09:21):
in the video about why potentially Dustin didn't want to
be where he could be most successful, which was in
the pocket with Max Hollowey in round five, we kind
of get the reason for that. Listen, Dustin at this
point is my opinion is down three rounds to one,
he kind of needs the fifth round, and really he
needs a knockout to win this fight, and he had
good moments again, singular shots right the backhand and moments

(09:43):
the low kick. He had completely abandoned the low kick,
which I thought was so silly. You want to slow
Max down, you want it, You want to cut down
on his movement, you want to keep him in front
of you, attack that low leg. But then again there's
always a counter for it. Max was doing a great
job with his straight punches, so maybe Dustin didn't want
to get caught off balance. But that fifth round, you know,
Max is doing his thing again. He's winning the round.
They get to that last ten seconds and it's kind
of rent and repeat, but Max points right straight down

(10:05):
to the ground right there, and Dustin Oblige's kind of
but only for a second. And this is when I
started to realize, now again it's an unspoked They spoke
about it. They were like, you want to do it.
It's Max's thing. Point to the ground. We're going to
have a swing off till the end. Although he didn't
do that with Ilio Teporia. Granted it was at the
beginning of the fight, but Max gave him the old Matador.
I was like, ilia a bit different, But Max points

(10:27):
to the ground and Dustin obliges, but when they start throwing,
you could see the hesitation from Dustin Poorrie. He even
looked to get double unders on Max at the end there.
He didn't want any part of that because Max showed
a superior hand speed. Again, his volume is insane, he
doesn't get tired, and he's stronger now at fifty five.
He hurt Dustin multiple times in this fight. That kind
of answered the question for me when I said, why

(10:49):
won't Dustin commit to his offense in the pocket. He
clearly did not think he had the hand speed to
keep up with Max there. He didn't want to stay
there because the longer he stayed there, Max eventually his
short punches in close or if he was able to
get back to his range and set up the hook
right hand was gonna catch Dustin. And that's fair. What
it showed me was that tonight, and maybe since their

(11:10):
last fight, Max has grown into the correct weight class
and he's added some things to his game that made
it very difficult for Dustin Poorie. His setups, his variety,
not just with his punches, but his kicks to the
body upstairs, showing different looks, the feints, the taunts again,
making you miss, making you pay, not trying to reset
the action, but countering on top of you, throwing and

(11:31):
being fully committed to what he's doing. Max showed the
best version of himself tonight, maybe that I've seen since
his you know, prime reign at one forty five, what
he's been doing recently at the end of that last
run at forty five, now moving to fifty five, this
is like a second new wave for Max Holloway. He's
been in the UFC for so long now, same with Dustin.
And I know this is a Dustin Poirier retirement thing,

(11:53):
and we'll get to that, but Max deserves his credit here.
He has revamped and revitalized his career to put himself
in now. He's right there with Justin Gaichie, a guy
he just knocked out cold not too long ago, and
Arman Seroukian in the number one two, and then you
have Patty Pemblet in potentially that third spot or spot whatever.
Those four guys are next up for Ilia. You can

(12:14):
take your pick of the litter there, sure you know, uh,
you could say Arman Seroukian probably deserves it. Justin Gaechie
is right there as well. But personally me, if you're asking,
I mean the Patti Pemlet fight. I love because there's
there's real animosity there and there hasn't already been a
definitive winner between the two of them. I mean, Ilia
knocked out Max, so you can't just go Max's next.

(12:35):
I would love to see Ilia Patty. That's probably not
gonna happen, but if it did, and you made Max
Justin two or I don't know, maybe you do Arman
and Patty and Max and and Justin and then the
winner of that, I don't know. But Max. The point
is he's in a good position now to be amongst
that next maybe not directly next for Ilia, but right

(12:56):
after that next who's gonna get Ilia? After that? Max
has put himself a position there to be talked about,
and this is just a great win for him. Obviously,
there's no animosity there for Max and Dustin, and even
after the fight they read the scorecards forty eight, forty
seven and forty nine to forty six. Dustin seemed to
be upset with the scorecards, but when you look at
the stats here, it isn't you know, it's not a
crazy thing to think this was forty nine forty six

(13:19):
and you I mean, shoot, the stats could even say
that Max won every round. But you know, given Dustin
that second round on the knockdown, Max clearly was the
more active, the more accurate, the more just willing to
deal damage fighter here. I mean, you look at the
significant strike percentage and the total head body. He had
it all legs, He attacked everything. This was a Max

(13:41):
Holloway bordering on dominant performance. You know, he got dropped
in the secon round, which is why you can't say that,
But outside of that was this was Max Holloway doing
what he wanted to do to a te in this fight,
and Dustin had moments he was successful, very much so
when he committed. But at the end of the day,
it was Max's fight. But Max got on the microphone
and gave his flowers to Dustin. Poorrier, you know, talking

(14:03):
about how he is a legend of the sport, and
he is. He never was a champion, but he was
right on the cusps of it. And again he was
an interim champion, one of the most probably the best
non champion in UFC history. I mean, there's probably people
that are gonna pop up in your mind in the
comments and let me know, but Dustin is right up
there with him. You know, you talk about like the
Donald Cernes or Alexander Gustavson's or people like that. I

(14:27):
feel like Dustin had far more success than those guys,
did you know? And again, I mean he was an
interim champ. Could have been undisputed had the belts gone differently.
And you know the UFC had taken the belt that
Abiba voluntarily already given up and said all right, somebody
else fight for it back in twenty twenty. So Dustin
got on the mic and thanked Louisiana. You know, he
dropped his gloves. Great tribute. They showed him a video

(14:48):
and overall it was a touching moment for the diamond
he's done. And I think he's gonna He said something
about being a commentator or an analyst for ESPN and
if they allow him to do that, I think he's
gonna do a great job. I really do. I think
he he knows the sport well, he can talk well.
I've seen him before on the panel disc stuff. But
great career for Dustin Poier. I'm glad to say I
got to watch a lot of it from when I
started watching MMA in twenty ten. Twenty eleven, I got

(15:12):
to see pretty much all of Dustin Poirier's run in
the UFC, so that was pretty cool to see. Man.
So yeah, great night of fights in the UFC. But
the main takeaway is Max Holloway is revitaliz at lightweight
and if he gets another shot at Iliot's Aporia, I'll
just remind people he I watched that fight again the
other day. He was looking damn good until he was

(15:32):
knocked out. Now again, that doesn't mean that it wouldn't
go the same way, because I think Iliot Tuporia is
the best boxer maybe I've ever seen an MMA, and
for him to be so reliant on it and so
confident in it and even being down two rounds in
my opinion to Max Holloway in their first fight, he
just has an IT factory. Obviously he's a great grappler,
but he has that confidence in that IT factor in
his boxing that he can shut your lights off, and

(15:54):
he has the skill to get there even at a
reach and height disadvantage. But I'd be lying if I
said I didn't want to see it again. I think
it's gonna be some time and Max can potentially look
for some top three matchups at fifty five. What do
they do with him next? What happens with Dustin Porier's retirement,
does he still stick around and do analysts work? And
what does the UFC do moving forward? Because there's some

(16:17):
interesting storylines going on. Saw Dana talking about the White
House card. We're gonna make some videos on that this week.
The point is all these things I don't have an
answer for. All I know is that Max Holloway is revitalized.
Second part of his career potentially can't I want to say,
be as good as his first, but can potentially lead
to a Hall of Fame level, potential one of the

(16:37):
greatest of all time levels he can grab another belt
type careers. But Max looks super impressive and I just
can't wait to see what he does next. So great
night of fights in the UFC. Max Holloway ruins the
party for Dustin Poier in New Orleans. But what happens next?
I guess we'll find out
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