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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, folks, So we are back and we have
(00:02):
breaking news as Misfits boxing is bat Misfits twenty two.
They're calling it Ring of Thrones. They've only announced two fights,
the Coemine and the main It's only been out for
about ten minutes and it's already sparking controversy. So we
need to talk about it because I for one am
excited and I will be watching what I mean, the breakdown.
(00:24):
Let's go. So Misfits twenty two just dropped, and here
is the poster Ring of Thrones main event Darren Hill
versus Luke rock Hole co main event Tony Fergus versus
Super Salt Poppy. Now they're talking about Misfits titles here.
I don't really give a shit about any of that.
I care about the four men in these two matchups.
(00:46):
And by the way, the posters fire, they're doing a
Game of Thrones thing. I don't. I never watched the
Game of Thrones, sorry to people that did. But it
looks good. It looks pretty damn good. Now let's talk location.
August thirtieth in the AO Arena in Manchester. If I
remember correctly, that is the city for sure. If not
the same arena that I made my second home. That's right,
(01:07):
planted the Wade Concept flag right in the middle of Manchester,
came across the pond, got a doub and said, yeah,
Daddy's home. They're going back there, which I think is
great because Misfits has a massive UK audience. And listen,
they have four big names, at least for this scene
on the car, three of which were either title contenders,
interim champions, or in the case of Luke rock Hole,
(01:30):
MMA champions. So let's break down the matchups. Number one,
Darren Til Luke Rockold. You have former one hundred and
seventy pound championship contender in Darren Hill versus at one point.
I know it's big twenty twenty five and we don't
think about this anymore, but at one point Luke rock
Hole was the baddest dude in the world at one
hundred and eighty five pounds. He was nasty. Now this
(01:52):
is boxing, not necessarily his forte because Luke Rockold had
never been a boxing officionado. I mean he lost a
bare knuckle of Mike Perry, but I mean he had
great kicks in MMA. He had a great question mark kick,
one of the best question mark kicks and high kicks
he'll ever see, but a high level grappler in his
own right as well. I mean he beat Michael Bisbee
with a one arm guillotine at one point, and strong guy,
(02:15):
great grappler, but boxing was never really his thing, which
is why you know when he came over and did
the bare knuckle thing, Mike Perry knocked his tooth out
and beat him in a bare knuckle fight. But now
he's got the gloves on, Darren Till's looking for more
fighters to feast on. I'm gonna be honest, I think
Darren Till not only beats Luke Rockold here, probably knocks
him out because Darren Hill has shown himself to be
(02:36):
a high level crossover boxer if you want to call
him that. But he is taking this scene by storm.
Is beaten Anthony Taylor just beat Darren Stewart with a
walk off ko there, and he's being active. Darren Hill
right now is carrying Misfits. It's the truth. He is
misfits biggest star. He's their biggest name. KSI's not fighting.
(02:57):
So Darren Hill has taken the company by storm and
take over this whole thing. I was in his co
main event and his debut. He since had another main event.
This is his third main event this year. That's crazy.
Darren Hill's fought three times this year or will have
by the time August thirtieth rolls around knock On Wood.
But yeah, I mean, listen, this is a great fight
name value wise, A lot of people know who Luke
rock Hold is. I think he did something with karate
(03:19):
combat as well. He's done bare knuckle. He has gotten
around after his time in MMA, and I think he
trains here on the West Coast. So if I can,
I would love to get some sessions in or at
least talk to Luke Rockold about this decision to go
and box and see. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe he's got
better hands now, maybe he's just been training boxing than
we've ever seen before. But as of right now, I
do think Darren Hill is the better boxer of the
(03:41):
two and he's probably gonna show it. But then we
have the co main event, and this one is very
controversial people because it involves I would say, a man
that most MA fans are far more emotionally tied to
because of his run in the subsequent falloff of one
Tony Ferguson. But whether you like this or don't like it,
meaning him boxing, Tony has a ton of fans and
(04:03):
if this would have been Tony Ferguson versus Jake Paul
or Tony Ferguson versus KSI, I probably be in the
same boat to be like, yeah, nah, I don't think
this is a good idea, And it's to be honest,
because of their experience in the time they've had in
the sport, and Tony is coming off of a very
downward trajectory in his m makerer And listen, sal Poppy's
(04:23):
very good as well. It's not like he is just
random influencer versus Tony Ferguson. Sal Poppy is probably gonna
knock Tony Ferguson out. I mean that's what I think.
I think that Salt Poppy's probably gonna clean Tony Ferguson's
clock in this fight. And again, I don't think Tony
should be fighting. I'm just gonna say that, just like
I said with the Mike Tyson fight and some others,
I don't think he should be fighting. I don't think
Manny Pakiao should be fighting this Saturday or a world
(04:45):
title against Mario Barrios. But that's happened. These guys are adults.
They're gonna make the decisions they want to make. Am
I pumped to see Tony go in there and get
absolutely slaughtered. No, and maybe he won't. Maybe he won't,
But all indications at least from here that Saltoppy should
knock him out for sure, and I don't want to
see that. At the same time, I'm not gonna act
like I don't want to see him fight, and I
don't want to see Salt Poppy fight. I do. I
just don't want to see Tony get hurt. But that's
(05:06):
the fight game, and that's what you sign up for.
These guys are grown man at the end of the day,
I'm not making excuses for it. Again, Tony shouldn't be fighting,
but hey, here we are. He's an adult. He said, yes,
good luck to him. Maybe he comes out with a
sense of renewed energy at forty one coming into this fight,
and everybody is walking into this thinking Salt Poppy's gonna
knock Tony out and Tony's a walking dead man. But
(05:27):
it's interesting to me when I hear all this controversy
pop up online because I was here long enough to
remember when Salt Poppy fought Slim and lost and everybody
said he was overrated or overhyped, And the same thing
happened when he fought Anthony Taylor and lost. And Anthony
Taylor is not a spry chicken in his own right
and definitely never had the career Tony Ferguson did. And
I'm not trying to compare Apples to Orange this here.
(05:47):
I'm just saying the same people that call Anthony Taylor
trash for losing to Darren Till or call Slim trash
for losing to Give are the same people upset that
Tony Ferguson is fighting the guy that lost to Slim
and that lost to Anthony Taylor in his day on Misfit.
And again I'm with you that I think Tall Poppy's
probably gonn knock him out. But if Tony Ferguson is
going to continue to fight, is there a less lethal
(06:07):
option for him, name value wise, to keep you interested,
to keep you entertained in watching him fight, Like, is
it more safe for Tony Ferguson to go back and
fight in the UFC? Is it more safe for him
to go fighting karate combat. Is it more safe for
him to go and box somewhere else? Is it more
safe for him to do bare knuckle? The answer is no.
If Tony Ferguson is going to fight, which again I
don't think he should. But if he's going to, it's
(06:28):
going to be dangerous regardless where he does it. But
he's fighting the guy and saw Poppy that has four
years experience boxing. Sure that's more than Tony, but it's
on the lesser side of the experience you could have
when walking into a new sport like boxing, And for
Tony Ferguson, I still think he's gonna get knocked the
fu out. But listen, I'm I'm ready for this card.
(06:49):
This feels like a you know, a big move for Misfits,
at least without KSI in the fold of what's happening,
or at least you know him fighting or whatever. This
this feels like one of their bigger cards, one of
their bigger opportunities to get themselves back on track because
KSI has pulled out of his last couple. There's been
some great cards, there's been some okay cards, there's been
(07:09):
some not so great cards. This one feels like at
least at the top of it. It is going to
be a good card for Misfits. Now again, they only
have shown us the main and the co Maine. I
have heard rumors, and actually it's not even a rumor
at this point because he's pretty much come out and
said it. Aaron the Plumber on Twitter is saying he's
going to be fighting on August thirtieth, And if you
guys know anything about what's been going on between me
(07:30):
and Aaron the Plumber, I'll be taking a very close
look at that fight. But who knows what else is
going to be on this card. There could be another
couple of bangers, another couple of sleepers on this card,
but I can't lie. Yeah, I'm pumped about watching Misfits
twenty two. I know it's a freak show. I get it,
and I've always got it. And for the people that
don't like this kind of thing, that's okay. You don't
have to like Misfits, and you can call it a
freak show, because yeah, you're right, it is. It is
(07:51):
a bit of a freak show compared to the highest
level of pro boxing. But no one's ever said that
Misfits was high level boxing. No one's ever claimed that
the best of misfits are the best in the world.
We know people that are in this scene, in the
crossover boxing scene. No, that's not the case. That's not
ever been the case. That's never been where it came
from or where it's going. It's just entertaining fights for
the sake of having entertaining fights. And also, if we're
(08:13):
gonna call this a freak show, then you kind of
do have to call the rest of the sport of
boxing at times a freak show, because most of your
favorite fighters, in their first ten to twelve fights, they're
not fighting anybody of substance. They're not fighting high level competitors.
They're going out and knocking out tomato cans to pad
their record, to put them in a position to fight
against some of the people that are holding world titles
in their next ten to fifteen fights. And the second
(08:34):
biggest fight that's ever been presented on pay per view
in a boxing ring was a freak show. Lloyd Mayweather
versus Connor McGregor in a pro boxing match was a
complete freak show, because why would the greatest of all time,
or at least one of the greatest of all time
at forty nine to zero even be able to or
elect to fight Connor McGregor and his debut in boxing,
and people wouldn't watch anything like that, right, morality would
(08:57):
get in the way. They would say, no way, can
we let that? No, of course, not like four million
people bought it on pay per view. How about Tyson Fury,
Francis and Ghanhu that just happened like two years ago,
and the people that were acting like it wasn't a
big dealer, it wasn't something they were gonna watch, they
still showed up and watched and frances and Ghanu knocked
down Tyson Fury, the raining heavyweight champion of the world
and his first boxing match. So I'm tired of the
(09:17):
whole fake, purest thing where people act like that's some
big deal that these fights go on and they're finger
waving and safeguarding the sport of boxing, when we all
know the sport of boxing, much like the sport of
MMA and combat sports in general, have a bit of
freak show in them because you kind of have to,
because these sports are not like regular sports. They're just not.
It's just a very polarizing thing because Tony Ferguson's forty one,
(09:39):
and he's coming off a massive losing streak in the UFC.
But again, I counter with, if Tony is going to
fight and that's something you and I can't control, is
there a safe option out there for him? The answer
is no, there isn't a fight to fight, so he
shouldn't be doing it. But I'm not gonna lie. I'm
gonna watch and I'm excited for the rest of this card.
Roll out Ao Arena August thirtieth, Manchester until Luke rock Hold.
(10:01):
I mean, listen, have a feeling dar until is gonna
win that, but hey, you never know, and let's see
what what Luke rock Hole brings. But regardless, Misfits is trying,
and this announcement was a little bit delayed, but I'm
happy that they got something going here and they got
a date and they're looking to move forward. And again
I am keeping an eye on that air in the
Plumber fight. So what happens in these two fights, I've
given my opinion. Maybe it'll change as we get closer.
(10:23):
If I see something different, probably not, but I'm excited
for it. I'm gonna be watching, so yeah, stay tuned.
We'll do some breakdowns. I'd love to interview Luke rock Holds.
I think he's out here in Orange County, so hopefully
we can get that set up and just try to
build this thing, because you know what, I want to
have fun watching cards, and I want to see Misfits
continue to grow. It's where I started in this scene,
(10:44):
and I want to continue to try to help them build,
and I'll always try to do that. So Misfits twenty
two Breaking news announcement just drop main event Darren Til,
Luke rock Hold and co made. Tony Ferguson makes his
return versus Salt Poppy August thirtieth, AO Arena, Manchester aka
My Backyard. What happens when this card fully gets unveiled?
(11:06):
Who wins and why? I don't have those answers yet,
but I guess we'll find out
All right, folks, So we are back and we have
(00:02):
breaking news as Misfits boxing is bat Misfits twenty two.
They're calling it Ring of Thrones. They've only announced two fights,
the Coemine and the main It's only been out for
about ten minutes and it's already sparking controversy. So we
need to talk about it because I for one am
excited and I will be watching what I mean, the breakdown.
(00:24):
Let's go. So Misfits twenty two just dropped, and here
is the poster Ring of Thrones main event Darren Hill
versus Luke rock Hole co main event Tony Fergus versus
Super Salt Poppy. Now they're talking about Misfits titles here.
I don't really give a shit about any of that.
I care about the four men in these two matchups.
(00:46):
And by the way, the posters fire, they're doing a
Game of Thrones thing. I don't. I never watched the
Game of Thrones, sorry to people that did. But it
looks good. It looks pretty damn good. Now let's talk location.
August thirtieth in the AO Arena in Manchester. If I
remember correctly, that is the city for sure. If not
the same arena that I made my second home. That's right,
(01:07):
planted the Wade Concept flag right in the middle of Manchester,
came across the pond, got a doub and said, yeah,
Daddy's home. They're going back there, which I think is
great because Misfits has a massive UK audience. And listen,
they have four big names, at least for this scene
on the car, three of which were either title contenders,
interim champions, or in the case of Luke rock Hole,
(01:30):
MMA champions. So let's break down the matchups. Number one,
Darren Til Luke Rockold. You have former one hundred and
seventy pound championship contender in Darren Hill versus at one point.
I know it's big twenty twenty five and we don't
think about this anymore, but at one point Luke rock
Hole was the baddest dude in the world at one
hundred and eighty five pounds. He was nasty. Now this
(01:52):
is boxing, not necessarily his forte because Luke Rockold had
never been a boxing officionado. I mean he lost a
bare knuckle of Mike Perry, but I mean he had
great kicks in MMA. He had a great question mark kick,
one of the best question mark kicks and high kicks
he'll ever see, but a high level grappler in his
own right as well. I mean he beat Michael Bisbee
with a one arm guillotine at one point, and strong guy,
(02:15):
great grappler, but boxing was never really his thing, which
is why you know when he came over and did
the bare knuckle thing, Mike Perry knocked his tooth out
and beat him in a bare knuckle fight. But now
he's got the gloves on, Darren Till's looking for more
fighters to feast on. I'm gonna be honest, I think
Darren Till not only beats Luke Rockold here, probably knocks
him out because Darren Hill has shown himself to be
(02:36):
a high level crossover boxer if you want to call
him that. But he is taking this scene by storm.
Is beaten Anthony Taylor just beat Darren Stewart with a
walk off ko there, and he's being active. Darren Hill
right now is carrying Misfits. It's the truth. He is
misfits biggest star. He's their biggest name. KSI's not fighting.
(02:57):
So Darren Hill has taken the company by storm and
take over this whole thing. I was in his co
main event and his debut. He since had another main event.
This is his third main event this year. That's crazy.
Darren Hill's fought three times this year or will have
by the time August thirtieth rolls around knock On Wood.
But yeah, I mean, listen, this is a great fight
name value wise, A lot of people know who Luke
rock Hold is. I think he did something with karate
(03:19):
combat as well. He's done bare knuckle. He has gotten
around after his time in MMA, and I think he
trains here on the West Coast. So if I can,
I would love to get some sessions in or at
least talk to Luke Rockold about this decision to go
and box and see. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe he's got
better hands now, maybe he's just been training boxing than
we've ever seen before. But as of right now, I
do think Darren Hill is the better boxer of the
(03:41):
two and he's probably gonna show it. But then we
have the co main event, and this one is very
controversial people because it involves I would say, a man
that most MA fans are far more emotionally tied to
because of his run in the subsequent falloff of one
Tony Ferguson. But whether you like this or don't like it,
meaning him boxing, Tony has a ton of fans and
(04:03):
if this would have been Tony Ferguson versus Jake Paul
or Tony Ferguson versus KSI, I probably be in the
same boat to be like, yeah, nah, I don't think
this is a good idea, And it's to be honest,
because of their experience in the time they've had in
the sport, and Tony is coming off of a very
downward trajectory in his m makerer And listen, sal Poppy's
(04:23):
very good as well. It's not like he is just
random influencer versus Tony Ferguson. Sal Poppy is probably gonna
knock Tony Ferguson out. I mean that's what I think.
I think that Salt Poppy's probably gonna clean Tony Ferguson's
clock in this fight. And again, I don't think Tony
should be fighting. I'm just gonna say that, just like
I said with the Mike Tyson fight and some others,
I don't think he should be fighting. I don't think
Manny Pakiao should be fighting this Saturday or a world
(04:45):
title against Mario Barrios. But that's happened. These guys are adults.
They're gonna make the decisions they want to make. Am
I pumped to see Tony go in there and get
absolutely slaughtered. No, and maybe he won't. Maybe he won't,
But all indications at least from here that Saltoppy should
knock him out for sure, and I don't want to
see that. At the same time, I'm not gonna act
like I don't want to see him fight, and I
don't want to see Salt Poppy fight. I do. I
just don't want to see Tony get hurt. But that's
(05:06):
the fight game, and that's what you sign up for.
These guys are grown man at the end of the day,
I'm not making excuses for it. Again, Tony shouldn't be fighting,
but hey, here we are. He's an adult. He said, yes,
good luck to him. Maybe he comes out with a
sense of renewed energy at forty one coming into this fight,
and everybody is walking into this thinking Salt Poppy's gonna
knock Tony out and Tony's a walking dead man. But
(05:27):
it's interesting to me when I hear all this controversy
pop up online because I was here long enough to
remember when Salt Poppy fought Slim and lost and everybody
said he was overrated or overhyped, And the same thing
happened when he fought Anthony Taylor and lost. And Anthony
Taylor is not a spry chicken in his own right
and definitely never had the career Tony Ferguson did. And
I'm not trying to compare Apples to Orange this here.
(05:47):
I'm just saying the same people that call Anthony Taylor
trash for losing to Darren Till or call Slim trash
for losing to Give are the same people upset that
Tony Ferguson is fighting the guy that lost to Slim
and that lost to Anthony Taylor in his day on Misfit.
And again I'm with you that I think Tall Poppy's
probably gonn knock him out. But if Tony Ferguson is
going to continue to fight, is there a less lethal
(06:07):
option for him, name value wise, to keep you interested,
to keep you entertained in watching him fight, Like, is
it more safe for Tony Ferguson to go back and
fight in the UFC? Is it more safe for him
to go fighting karate combat. Is it more safe for
him to go and box somewhere else? Is it more
safe for him to do bare knuckle? The answer is no.
If Tony Ferguson is going to fight, which again I
don't think he should. But if he's going to, it's
(06:28):
going to be dangerous regardless where he does it. But
he's fighting the guy and saw Poppy that has four
years experience boxing. Sure that's more than Tony, but it's
on the lesser side of the experience you could have
when walking into a new sport like boxing, And for
Tony Ferguson, I still think he's gonna get knocked the
fu out. But listen, I'm I'm ready for this card.
(06:49):
This feels like a you know, a big move for Misfits,
at least without KSI in the fold of what's happening,
or at least you know him fighting or whatever. This
this feels like one of their bigger cards, one of
their bigger opportunities to get themselves back on track because
KSI has pulled out of his last couple. There's been
some great cards, there's been some okay cards, there's been
(07:09):
some not so great cards. This one feels like at
least at the top of it. It is going to
be a good card for Misfits. Now again, they only
have shown us the main and the co Maine. I
have heard rumors, and actually it's not even a rumor
at this point because he's pretty much come out and
said it. Aaron the Plumber on Twitter is saying he's
going to be fighting on August thirtieth, And if you
guys know anything about what's been going on between me
(07:30):
and Aaron the Plumber, I'll be taking a very close
look at that fight. But who knows what else is
going to be on this card. There could be another
couple of bangers, another couple of sleepers on this card,
but I can't lie. Yeah, I'm pumped about watching Misfits
twenty two. I know it's a freak show. I get it,
and I've always got it. And for the people that
don't like this kind of thing, that's okay. You don't
have to like Misfits, and you can call it a
freak show, because yeah, you're right, it is. It is
(07:51):
a bit of a freak show compared to the highest
level of pro boxing. But no one's ever said that
Misfits was high level boxing. No one's ever claimed that
the best of misfits are the best in the world.
We know people that are in this scene, in the
crossover boxing scene. No, that's not the case. That's not
ever been the case. That's never been where it came
from or where it's going. It's just entertaining fights for
the sake of having entertaining fights. And also, if we're
(08:13):
gonna call this a freak show, then you kind of
do have to call the rest of the sport of
boxing at times a freak show, because most of your
favorite fighters, in their first ten to twelve fights, they're
not fighting anybody of substance. They're not fighting high level competitors.
They're going out and knocking out tomato cans to pad
their record, to put them in a position to fight
against some of the people that are holding world titles
in their next ten to fifteen fights. And the second
(08:34):
biggest fight that's ever been presented on pay per view
in a boxing ring was a freak show. Lloyd Mayweather
versus Connor McGregor in a pro boxing match was a
complete freak show, because why would the greatest of all time,
or at least one of the greatest of all time
at forty nine to zero even be able to or
elect to fight Connor McGregor and his debut in boxing,
and people wouldn't watch anything like that, right, morality would
(08:57):
get in the way. They would say, no way, can
we let that? No, of course, not like four million
people bought it on pay per view. How about Tyson Fury,
Francis and Ghanhu that just happened like two years ago,
and the people that were acting like it wasn't a
big dealer, it wasn't something they were gonna watch, they
still showed up and watched and frances and Ghanu knocked
down Tyson Fury, the raining heavyweight champion of the world
and his first boxing match. So I'm tired of the
(09:17):
whole fake, purest thing where people act like that's some
big deal that these fights go on and they're finger
waving and safeguarding the sport of boxing, when we all
know the sport of boxing, much like the sport of
MMA and combat sports in general, have a bit of
freak show in them because you kind of have to,
because these sports are not like regular sports. They're just not.
It's just a very polarizing thing because Tony Ferguson's forty one,
(09:39):
and he's coming off a massive losing streak in the UFC.
But again, I counter with, if Tony is going to
fight and that's something you and I can't control, is
there a safe option out there for him? The answer
is no, there isn't a fight to fight, so he
shouldn't be doing it. But I'm not gonna lie. I'm
gonna watch and I'm excited for the rest of this card.
Roll out Ao Arena August thirtieth, Manchester until Luke rock Hold.
(10:01):
I mean, listen, have a feeling dar until is gonna
win that, but hey, you never know, and let's see
what what Luke rock Hole brings. But regardless, Misfits is trying,
and this announcement was a little bit delayed, but I'm
happy that they got something going here and they got
a date and they're looking to move forward. And again
I am keeping an eye on that air in the
Plumber fight. So what happens in these two fights, I've
given my opinion. Maybe it'll change as we get closer.
(10:23):
If I see something different, probably not, but I'm excited
for it. I'm gonna be watching, so yeah, stay tuned.
We'll do some breakdowns. I'd love to interview Luke rock Holds.
I think he's out here in Orange County, so hopefully
we can get that set up and just try to
build this thing, because you know what, I want to
have fun watching cards, and I want to see Misfits
continue to grow. It's where I started in this scene,
(10:44):
and I want to continue to try to help them build,
and I'll always try to do that. So Misfits twenty
two Breaking news announcement just drop main event Darren Til,
Luke rock Hold and co made. Tony Ferguson makes his
return versus Salt Poppy August thirtieth, AO Arena, Manchester aka
My Backyard. What happens when this card fully gets unveiled?
(11:06):
Who wins and why? I don't have those answers yet,
but I guess we'll find out
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Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Special Summer Offer: Exclusively on Apple Podcasts, try our Dateline Premium subscription completely free for one month! With Dateline Premium, you get every episode ad-free plus exclusive bonus content.