December 12, 2025 • 32 mins
Teofimo Lopez and Shakur Stevenson are two of the best boxers in the world, they fight on January 31st and they sat down to chat about their fight.. And things got INTERESTING
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Folks.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
All right, we are back on the Way concept presented
by The Ring Magazine and I am pumped for this
video because we have a sit down between Tafi Mo
Lopez and Chakor Stevenson ahead of their big time fight
on January thirty first, Madison Square Garden, Ring number six.
Shakor looking to move up and be a four division
world champ, obviously TiO looking to maintain the ring belts
(00:23):
at one. But this is going to be hilarious. I
watched their press conference today and there were some moments
in that presser that made you say, ayo. It was
one of the zestiest press conferences ever, But it was
just that it was a boxing press conference that you know,
those things tend to get kind of stale. But doing
this sit down with Rick Reno on the Mister Vesace podcast,
(00:45):
I think is going to be a lot more entertaining.
So let's take a look at this. Let's see these
two talk about their matchup. It's one of the best
fights you can make in boxing, point blank period. These
two are the best in the world at a young age,
prime of both of their careers. This is what boxing needs,
is what we want more from boxing? So the fight
we know is gonna be fireworks, But what's.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
The build up gonna be?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Like, what's the thing that's going to make us tune
in on fight knife? For Ryan Garcia Devin Haney, it
was the rivalry and the chaos surrounding. For Tyson Fury
and Alexander Usik, it was undisputed at heavyweight.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
What's it gonna be for this one?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yes, championships are on the line. Yes, it's one of
the best fights you can make in boxing. Yes, it's
gonna be a display of the sweet science.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
But what else?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Anything personal? Is there anything that we're gonna see come
out in these sit downs? I'm gonna take a look.
Let's talk about it the breakdown.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Let's go.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Flide January thirty first, the Mecca of Boxing, Madison Square
Garden in New York City, Live and exclusively on the Zone.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I'm sorry, let's just hold on. Let's take a look
at this podcast set up. What in the world the
Mister Versace podcast. It looks like a crypto coin of
Rick Reno.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
It's Reno Coy. They got him dressed to the nine toget,
He's got the sun classes doors.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Look at Chakur's like, what is going on? This is
the one hundred and eighty thousand dollars belt. Apparently you
got TiO with his two ring belts on.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
This is awesome.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Dude, TiO, I'm gonna start with you. When did you
first become aware of Shakuur Stevenson? When did you first
hear the name? When did you first maybe see a
fight of his?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Well?
Speaker 5 (02:21):
First off, it's great to be here, grateful, thankful to
be here, first and foremost on that part seen Chakourt back.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
In Amateurs Rol.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Yeah, I'm thinking that. I don't know if it's twenty eleven.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
Is it me?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Or I love TiO?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
But he's got like a wide like newborn baby's head,
Like what is going I don't know. He's got like
a flat, wide like skull. I don't think I've ever
seen the skull that wide.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
When were your early impressions?
Speaker 5 (02:48):
I like his style, he could fight.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Yeah, what about you, Chakur, when did you first become
aware of TiO?
Speaker 7 (02:56):
You know, it's so crazy. I really was like an
say I wasn't no nerd, but I was like a
boxing nerd, so like.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I ain't about to say I was a nerd lay Mass.
Hey kids, at all I'm watching There's nothing wrong with
being a nerd in playing sports. I read Marvel comics
and was a Division one football player. I don't mean shit.
You could be a nerd and still be an athlete,
all right. You don't have to You don't have to
act like you're not a nerd and still be athletic
and still do sports. Okay, the new age dude nerds rule,
(03:25):
all right.
Speaker 7 (03:26):
When I first kind of got away of ti O
was probably before he even knew me. But I used
to get on YouTube and I used to watch like
the DMV fights, and they used to have like the
Region two I want to say. He was with Region
two with Florida, and I seen one of his fights
up there and I kind of watched them. I thought
(03:47):
he was a good fighter, and that's when I kind
of got a first with the TiO. But when I
finally first met him, probably was at the same time
he talking about.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
For the bulk of your careers, you were both under
the same promotional banner. Well you cordial friendly.
Speaker 7 (04:02):
I was good with to. I thought to was a
little jealous of me, That's what I thought it.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Did you get a censor of that thought or thinks,
because I still think that Shikor believes that to might
be a little jealous.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
TiO, were you any any jealousy in there? Because both
of you guys were being pushed, But it seemed like
to me just from the outside looking in, that he
was pushed ahead of you.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
He was.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Yeah, he was getting the fights that you want. You know,
you were calling Filoma, He got Loma. You wanted other guys.
He was getting other guys. Did you see him as
a future Folcus? At one point you were two divisions
ahead of him.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
I think that everything just plays out the way it does,
and eventually we was gonna end up meeting up with
each other eventually. I think that that's how it works, right,
when two greats collide, you bound to see a great fight.
So I just I had never seen any jealousy in
my part with him. I mean, for crying out loud,
he fell for tm USA, he got a silver medal, and.
Speaker 7 (04:58):
The whole thing I'm doing, I'm speaking on the times
where I felt like you had a push start, you
got the you used to be ahead of me. Far
as like you was the code on Terrence Coffee card.
I was underneath. Then you got the opportunity to fight
with Lima Chenko, and after that I felt like I
kind of got pushed more than you when you felt
(05:20):
some type of way about the way that I was
pushed more than you when it came down to ESPN.
I remember you saying a little comment with the ESPN
only liked black fighters and all that kind of stuff.
And when you said that, I kind of felt like
it was a shot at me.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
So the hell, that's where we're going. ESPN only likes
black fighters. I don't remember that, all right, let's take
it there. Then, Shit, what we're saying too and only
watching the black fighters over at the ESPN.
Speaker 7 (05:47):
I felt like it was a little bit of jealousy.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
No, I just didn't give it enough, that's all. This
didn't give enough about it at all.
Speaker 7 (05:55):
Yeah, but when you say the comments, you said something there.
It was something you said at that time. It was
the way you felt, right.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
I just pushed the movement that I felt like we
was taking over as we are now.
Speaker 7 (06:08):
Like I said, I think you the truth. I know
him the truth and can't wait to see it.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yo, Shakur is showing them teeth off son now that
you got that gap fixed.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Shaikora is showing them shits off it man, smiling at man.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
You know what I'm saying, just throwing them teeth out there,
and he should. Everybody giving Shakur stick about fixing his
gap in his teeth, y'all would do the same shit
just cause j Cole got on the song and talked
about how he never fixed his gap in his tooth
he wanted to remain himself or whatever.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I'm not with that.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
If you gotta something like that, or you know what
I'm saying, You got the saloon doors in the middle
gums with no teeth. You want to push the shits together,
you know what I'm saying. You want to bring the
whole family together. I'm not mad at that at all.
But Shakur is flexing them, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Shakur, You, judging by the recent COMPU box numbers, you're
number one by a mile as far as fighters not
landing any power punches on you. How do you feel
when you hear a guy say he might not just
stop you, but he might make you quit the fight.
Speaker 7 (07:01):
Make me quit. It's crazy, Like I don't got no quit.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
In me, but it's cool.
Speaker 7 (07:05):
He's supposed to feel that way, like he's supposed to
say the things that he's saying on He's not saying
none out of the ordinary or something that I didn't expect.
Only thing that I kind of took away on he
got on a podcast. I want to say, he said
that I was slow m And that's the part where
I'm like, Okay, he's going to be very surprised come
fight night to where it's like you really thought I
was slow?
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Like is that.
Speaker 7 (07:26):
Something like you put in your brain and thought it
was about to come out there and work.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
It is interesting to hear, you know, both of them
talk about each other, because there's probably not two guys
that know each other better that haven't fought, but have
seen each other, been around each other, you know, ami
tournaments and follow each other's career under the same promotional manner.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Then t O and Shakur right outside of.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Again sparring together, train together, that are about to fight
each other. There's probably not guys that know how they
operate better. So if t is saying I'm gonna go
out there and make you quit, essentially break you and stop.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
You, that's something we haven't even seen.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Do see anyone get close to even hurting Shakor really
like people say that Williams of peta fight is a
pay to hit him with the right hand, and Chakor
got wobbled even though it was clearly slipped. I thought
that was one of Shakoor's better performances because he dug
down and bit down on his mouthpiece and said, I'm
not just going to play the back foot and be
slick and turn this into a very low output fight
that I'll win because I'm I'm just you know, he's
(08:20):
better than Zapeta. But he went out there and dogged
it out a little bit, and I respected him for it.
I don't expect him to fight the same way versus
Tia Fima Lopez.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I really don't.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
And I think people are looking at the Zipeta fight
and going, yeah, that's the core we want. And I
don't want to say he's going to disappoint people, but
he will not fight that way with you. He won't
and TiO won't fight the same way Williamszepeta did. They'll
both be very measured. I think it'll be a very
slow paced, low output fight. I could be wrong, you know,
I could be wrong. I could see maybe they go
to war or something. But we're talking about styles making fights,
(08:49):
and Tio's style, even if he's on his front foot,
he doesn't commit to a lot of punches on the
front foot, but he can do he can fight that way.
Shakur almost exclusively wants to go defense to offense versus
lead the exchange. So I don't know. Not to say
Schcord will be on the back foot the whole time.
It's not necessarily how I see the fight going. But
I don't know if this is going to be like
a knockdown, drag him out type of thing. I think
we're gonna get a defensive sweet science display from both guys, which,
(09:12):
by the way, I think works in Chakhor's favor.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
You said on there that Terrence Crawford sent one of
his little guys to come after you, implying that obviously
you want a fight eventually with Terrence Crawford.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Is this crazy? Crazy? Crazy?
Speaker 2 (09:26):
I mean, again, the difference between one and one sixty
eight and TiO is not a big one hundred and
forty pounder. Not to say Terrence is a big one
hundred and sixty eight pounder, but man, it just feels
like a massive jump. But then again, we just saw
Terrence do it first, Canello, So who knows the fight where?
Speaker 4 (09:40):
First do you see Chakord is a legitimate threat in
one forty because he's a guy moving up. At one
point you were two divisions ahead of him. And in
second to that, is this a fight where you want
to send a message to Terrence Crawford based on your
performance in this fight?
Speaker 5 (09:55):
I guess yeah. To put it all together, I mean,
you gotta fight the best, saying he's real close to Crawford,
very close to Sam, and I think that you know,
Crawford has high hopes of him, high expectations on Shakur,
And what better way? You know, I tried other ways
that didn't work, and that's just part of me just learning.
(10:17):
So I think now it's better just to do it
with action, you know, let the fist talk. And now
he's here, you know, and like you said, I was
two divisions ahead of him at one point in time.
Now he's here going up to my division. I want
forty and trying to reclaim and claim everything.
Speaker 7 (10:31):
Yeah, bro, come on, brot get on with the humble stuff.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Bro.
Speaker 7 (10:36):
I want to TiO that's rowdy, Like where where is
he at?
Speaker 6 (10:40):
Bro?
Speaker 7 (10:40):
I'll show you January thirty first, Okay, okay, we're gonna see,
We're gonna see. I don't like this version. It's like boom, no,
listen here, bro, what you're going to do? What you
going to do come fight night? That's what I want
to hear.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Yeah, good talk to him.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
It's crazy because this is not how TiO is acting
in the press conference today. Just for a little bit
of flavor here, you know, because because he is being
a little bit coy, calm, like she Corse said, a
little bit humble.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
But this is how he wasn't the presser today.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Look at this, gonna have chakar jigama.
Speaker 7 (11:13):
You know you said you're gonna do.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
What my balls?
Speaker 6 (11:20):
You feel.
Speaker 7 (11:22):
Doing that? Bro?
Speaker 5 (11:23):
It's Niagara Falls talking about He said, what room forty fortys?
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Bro?
Speaker 6 (11:32):
What's up with you?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Me? Wow?
Speaker 5 (11:35):
You hard?
Speaker 3 (11:37):
You hard?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Real hard?
Speaker 7 (11:40):
And what do you say to that?
Speaker 6 (11:45):
Like that?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
CEO is who I'm used to.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
That's the t O that was, you know at the
press conference when I was I was there in New
York with the Lucha Libre mask On talking his ship.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
That's crazy though, But like He isn't doing any of that.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
He's very composed in this interview, and maybe it's just
the mind games of like try to get Chakur to
see all versions of him, like oh, you know, I'm
laid back, you know, super humble. Ch Court deserves his
respect and at the press conference talking crazy like that.
I've never heard of the room forty one. But the
way you gotta do it, t O is messing up
the dick joke. The way he you got to say
it is you got to make Chakur say what you said. Yeah,
I'm gonna take him to the room forty Room forty yeah,
(12:18):
room for these nuts.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
That's the way.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
You're not just you know, you hit the punchline before
we even get there. Even this this was the the
face to face at the presser.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
This my time, my time.
Speaker 7 (12:33):
I've been waiting on this for.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
Appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
You all already knew that that t O Senior was
gonna be talking.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Y'all knew that the the prize is right up here,
the prizes.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Right saying the prize is right up here. He's talking
about the ring belt and that's true. I mean, the
most prestigious belding boxing that's fair.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
You can't fight for them, you can't.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
I don't care. I don't need him.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
I called him a different breed babies.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
There we go.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
That's some intensity. But we're not seeing none of that
right now. Man, we're seeing and it could just be
the environment.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
You know.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Everybody's laid back right now. You know, like we're not.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
We're not trying to really be on that type of energy.
But I'm waiting for it.
Speaker 7 (13:34):
From what you're going to do.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
What is you going to do?
Speaker 7 (13:37):
Come fight night? That's what I want to hear. You'll see. Okay, okay,
I can't wait. I promise you've been here.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
I'm gonna continue to stay looking at you for years.
But been here, I'm gonna stay for years.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
I've been already.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
That's good.
Speaker 7 (13:50):
I played it out of my brain.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Got to focus on the top guy, for sure. You
focus on the number one.
Speaker 7 (13:56):
You're a beast bro from the East. Yeah, from the
I don't know, from the east. Well is Florida?
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Technically these come on, Yes, Florida's in the east. They're
literally on the East coast. Now.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Granted, so scha Court is saying that Teo is from Florida,
but reps New York. I think Theo might have been
born in New York but moved to Florida.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Now he's back. I don't know, but Florida is on
the East coast, same with New York.
Speaker 7 (14:19):
Yeah, well, you know, you're good.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
I'm great.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
There are been questions, you know, here and there about
Teo's mental state, you know, as far as the critics.
And you are a type of guy when you're in
the ring, you take guys sometimes to a dark place.
After a couple of rounds, you sort of break them.
Do you think you're gonna break him after a couple
of rounds?
Speaker 7 (14:41):
Yeah, I know I'm gonna break him. I know it's
gonna be a certain point in that fight to where
he's gonna be mentally frustrated. And when he gets mentally frustrated,
that is what I'm gonna take.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
What do you think too?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
So I was gonna say that the way that Rick
is making it sound, he's making Chakur sound like a
knockout artist or somebody that you know is a power
puncher that wears you down and eventually just breaks your soul.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
What he is really because Shakur is not that. What
Shakur is.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
And what he can do is out box you to
a degree where your Plan A isn't working, Plan bcdef
all the way through Z isn't working and won't work,
and you have no more answer, and so you are
at the mercy of just whatever Shakur wants to do,
you're gonna have to do to remain in the fight,
or you take a chance and then Shakur can light
you up with his hands.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Right.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
So that's essentially what you know, the mental break of
guys that fight Shakur. Because he's such a frustrating puzzle
to master. No one's been able to unlock the code
to beat him, or to even get close to it.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
As of right now. So that I understand you have
to do to combat his style.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Because you're a guy who likes to analyze your opponent,
you look for those openings and you capitalize on it.
But you can't really fight like that with a guy
with the style of Shakur. And you've said you may
have to make this fight really rough. What do you
mean by that?
Speaker 5 (15:58):
I think that is just two guys that believe that
no one could No one could get into their defense,
no one could get into their offense, no one could
actually get into their style Stylistically, he believes he's the best,
and I know I'm the best, and that's why we're
getting to this point now. He wants to challenge himself.
I'm here, I'm here for it. I'm here to challenge
(16:20):
myself every time. That's part of boxing. And I think
that one thing we are doing here, mister Visage is
one thing for a fact, is that we're showing all
the next generation. This is how you do it.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
You don't do it.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
In your in your early thirties. You do it now.
You do it when the time is right, and this
is the right time.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
That Machs is one hundred percent true. And both these
guys are good representations of that. Devin Haney is a great,
great representation of that. Ryan Garcia is a great representation.
You're seeing the younger fighters, and for some reason, it's
specifically around the one hundred and thirty to one hundred
and forty pounds range. Uh, the younger fighters getting these
fights done earlier. We're not waiting until Terrence Crawford is,
(17:01):
you know, in his late thirties for him to have
that breakout opponent. We're not waiting until, you know, Tank
is in his early thirties to have that breakout well,
it was going to be the breakout show with Jake Paul,
but you know the breakout opponents, even with Ryan Garcia
in his late twenties, and Garcia was a lot younger,
but still you're you're not getting those type of fights
until later on in guys careers, and now you're seeing
(17:22):
prime versus prime. This needs to be the mainstay in boxing.
It desperately needs this.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
It's why are we fighting in the big room. That's
why everything is on the line. That's why I'm putting
everything that has got to be you know what I mean,
He's got more to gain. True, I got nothing to lose,
So where is that going too any I.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Mean, Teo does have a lot to lose. He's literally
got belts to lose. It's more that Chakor doesn't really
have a lot to lose because he's moving up and wait,
because he isn't putting a title up here, he doesn't
have much to lose. TiO has everything to lose here
belts wise, and a guy coming up in his weight class.
Although when you look at the two of them, and
I was going to say this earlier. You can definitely
see that Shakoor is gonna be just fine at one forty.
(18:02):
I've said TiO is a smaller one forty compared to
other guys that have fought it that way class, Jaquor
probably be bigger than TiO, maybe not muscle density wise,
but height reach all that Chaquor is gonna be.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
You were practically one foot out the door of this division.
You wanted to fight Jron Ennis. That didn't come about,
not because of you. You wanted that fight.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
Then tell him why. If it wasn't me, then who
I think?
Speaker 4 (18:23):
And Ennis didn't want to stick around at the weight,
as far as what Ennis's people told me, he did,
But I know you were willing to fight him, even at.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
A catch weight because I'm crazy.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
So what was it about Shakour where you said, you know,
I'll stick around at one and fight this guy.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
His last fight, said Peta, his last fight. You don't
know how money.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
I'm telling you, though, I don't think Shakhor is gonna
fight like that against Teo. I don't And maybe this
is to like trying to encourage him to do that, right,
And I even heard Teo Senior say that in the
press conference, Like, you know, we watched that fight. We
think we got the answer. I don't think Shakor is
going to go back to that style where he is
taking more risks, where he's in the pocket for longer.
You know, he's standing with his back on the ropes
(19:02):
at times, being flat footed, trying to roll punches encounter.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
I don't see that Shakor in this fight.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
People are talking about him on every scale level. And
when it came to the talks of me and Hani
fighting in August, I didn't go for it because he
had no motion. Now he does after the Brian Norman,
but Shakura, it's all there, But I didn't focus on him.
I was focused on what's next, trusting my power team,
(19:26):
trusting on my team and what can do and who
can we fight next? Bro.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
By the way, we have so many good fights that
could potentially be brewing here in the next you know,
four to five months, at one forty you have or
one forty seven. Really you have this at one forty
with Tiafimo and Shakor, depending on what Tank Davis is
doing right now. I don't know if he's gonna be
fighting in any time soon. But then Shakor, if he
should win this could go and fight Tank or maybe
even tia Fimo could do the same. Then you have
(19:53):
Ryan Garcia fighting Mario Barrios in February, the winter that
one's probably gonna get Devin Haney and Devin Haney and
Bill are saying they want fight Roly Romero. In the meantime,
there's some really good fights at one forty seven and
at one.
Speaker 7 (20:04):
I know to expect the best version of TiO. TiO
kind of shows up when the guys that you think
is gonna beat him, that's when he shows up the most.
So I'm expecting the best version of him, expect the
best version of me, and I think it's gonna be
a tremendous fight.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
I'm not.
Speaker 7 (20:26):
This dude is in my way. That's how I look
at it. Like the same way he probably feel about me.
I feel the same way about home. He's in my way.
I'm chasing greatness, but I wasn't in your way.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
You came up to my weight. Yeah, you didn't have
nobody at thirty five.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
That's true. But you the god, Bro, you the god,
you four kings. You been to God for you the
guy on the pound for pound. I agree, I agree,
I understand.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Johan, I am out a guy.
Speaker 7 (20:49):
If you are, you're the god bro. You know you
the god bro.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
I mean Schkor is the pound on the pound for
pound because he's a three division champ. I know to
is upset about that because he's also a multi division champ.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
But I'm in here thinking about something. This has nothing
to do with.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
What's being said, but I do want to I want
to point it out. Shakor is moving up to one forty.
I keep looking at his hands, and I know this
is a bit of a tired, you know, played out discussion,
But as the weight gets higher, does it I wonder
if it impacts because of the way guys can take
punches at a higher weight, how Shakor's hands hold up
at one forty. Genuinely, I asked that question because it
feels like that's been the only thing that's really set
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him back, outside of, you know, maybe being more defensively
aware and less offensive at times.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
I do wonder, how is.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
It going to look if Chakor's hands can't handle it
at forty right? That's that's one of the things I
worry about, because again, they got the way the guys
take punches bigger dudes. Again, t O is not the
biggest guy at one forty. It's just something to keep
an eye on.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
So it's an issue that it's been persistent with Shakor.
Speaker 7 (21:45):
But you're in my way, so I got to move
you on my weight. That's how I look at these. Nope,
I'm I ain't nobody taking food off my table. That's
all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
I'll tell you this, though you bit more than you
could chew.
Speaker 7 (21:58):
Feel that way for sure, but come fighting, you gonna
realize it's a lot different than being on the outside
than being inside of you.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
Yes, they all say, okay.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Both guys have great points here. Because Shaquur is like, listen,
you're in my way. I'm not even sure what To's like, No,
that's not the way. The mentality of it. Maybe Too's
like I don't even look at people being in my way,
that my path is just my pad.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
But I like Schakor's mentality, like he's like, you're in
my way at one forty because I'm going to be
an all time great. So it didn't matter at thirty five,
at forty, at forty seven, however, high, Chakor goes he's
trying to be one of the greatest that's ever lived,
So who cares you know what the weight class is.
He was looking for the number one guy in every
weight class, and so I like that mentality. I'm gonna
have to move you out of my way to take
that spot. That's just the way it happens in every
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sport and walk alive. You either step up or step
aside right or get moved. But then too said, listen,
you bet off more than you could chew here. This
is not the same as thirty five guys. It's not
the same as the guys at one thirties, ain't.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
The same as the Olympics. I like that. That's a
nice little rebuttal there.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
And then scha course says, it's different watching me from
the outside to being inside. And I think that's one
of the things that no one really thinks about when
we talk about, you know, my matchups like this, We
as the viewing audience, see his fight style from the
outside and think, oh, man, guys just need to put
the pressure on him. If guys just through with some combinations,
which we found out was the pta, that's not the case.
But it's different even with the guys standing in front
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of you and you not being able to hit them,
because they are so good with their anticipation, with their timing,
with their defense, with their feet, with their counterpunches, and
between these two, they both are very confident that they're
about to show the other one a different level than
they've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
The question is who's actually right, who's.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Lying not knowing they're lying, but who's lying to themselves,
and who's actually right about that?
Speaker 7 (23:35):
Yes, they all say, Okay, I'm slow, right.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Lnsally, what the hells you? It's so fucked up.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
He was quickly Nally, Oh my god.
Speaker 7 (23:51):
Mentally, Okay, I'm talking about I'm slow in the boxing
ring right. Mentally I'm talking about the boxing which he
was talking about.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Oh right.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
It's kind of a double entendre.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
It's kind of a double meaning here from t O
because he keeps he's frustrated chakord number one because that
was a good line. You know, as much as it's
gonna be insensitive and people are going to be upset
about that, it's a good line. Scores like I'm slow though, right,
heels like, yeah, mentally, you're slow. But he's not meaning
at least, you know, he could mean outside of the ring,
like oh, you're not well educated or whatever, like, oh
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you're not you know, you can't think, I guess. And
then in what I think he's really trying to get
at with Shakor is like, no, I believe that you
are not on my level of you know, the boxing, IQ,
You're not on my level in terms of thinking about
this sport. Thinking in the ring.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
You're slower there than I, and Shakur is not catching
the hint.
Speaker 7 (24:40):
Okay, you're gonna see. I promise you're gonna see.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
By the way I should say, I don't think Chakor
is either slow mentally outside of the ring or I
just need to make sure I say that. I think
he's one of the smarter fighters in boxing.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
I know, Shakour, you were pushing for that belt and
there's a pay to fight and it couldn't really happen
because of a paida's ranking, not because of yours. Now
you got it.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
Who had the ring at thirty five?
Speaker 7 (25:04):
Nobody?
Speaker 5 (25:04):
They should have gave you the ring.
Speaker 7 (25:06):
Yeah, I agree, but you know, come with it, bro.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
No, I'm just saying they should have done that.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Well, it's usually number one and two and one and
two is him and Keyshawn and him and Keyshaw and
the close friends, and that fight couldn't happen.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
They Oh they buddies.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
This is where I do like, you know, where TiO
exists in boxing, Like he doesn't have a ton of
like fighter friends.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
You know what I'm saying as.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Far as like, oh, I'm not going to fight that
guy that's in my division because we grew up together.
Oh I'm not going to fight that guy in my
division because we became friends during X, Y and Z.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Maybe the Olympics steal. Don't really care about none.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Of that, right Teo is is is like he kind
of said they're enemy number one in terms of the
fighters around that division.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Sometimes because of the stuff he says, they.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Can get quite you know, vulgar and crazy. But there
are other parts of that that I think are endearing
because he won't hold up a division, he won't like
not do certain fights because he's got relationships with people
trying to fight everybody.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
Yes, sir, so you played yourself all right?
Speaker 7 (26:08):
How I play myself? Bro?
Speaker 5 (26:10):
You gonna gotta bring you gonna add too?
Speaker 6 (26:12):
Like me?
Speaker 5 (26:12):
Right now?
Speaker 7 (26:12):
I ain't gonna fight my brother.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
See, that's it's the thing. Man, ain't no brothers in
this thing.
Speaker 7 (26:20):
You ain't got brothers, brother, but I got brothers.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
I had one, but he ain't here no more.
Speaker 7 (26:25):
So it's like I'm just telling you how I look
at it, Bro, I don't get it.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
I bet you that plan is is this and this
is it. He goes to one forty, tries to claim
it that he'll probably go back down to thirty five.
Let Keyshank go to forty and do his thing at forty,
and then Crawford's got his agenda. He's already on his
way out soon. Eventually it's a little little I.
Speaker 7 (26:48):
Got a question, though, Bro, what do one man's plan
or whatever you got to do? Got to do it?
Speaker 5 (26:53):
Because it's not boxing.
Speaker 7 (26:56):
It's boxing. Yeah, it is fight you fighting nobody else.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
It is not the fight you, but I understand, but
it's not the essence of what.
Speaker 7 (27:04):
We what we do with boxing, bro, box is this
need versus you, the best versus the best box We
can all.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
Kick it when we're done retired. We kick it when
we are.
Speaker 7 (27:17):
Right there on your ships right now right Are you
the one that I am? So if that's the case.
Speaker 8 (27:23):
What are we talking about while we talking about don't flip,
don't flip it now, I'm just I'm just, I'm really
you had opportunities to be we're talking about you had
the opportunity to be the best at.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
One thirty five. Okay, you ain't tend to do that
because because you got.
Speaker 7 (27:37):
Brothers, My brothers. Hold on talking about let's let's let's
understand what you're saying. Keith Shawn had one fight where
he got the belt.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Right right at thirty five.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
Yes, okay, after that fight he had, but you getting
what I'm talking he had a belt for it. No,
you're saying that I'm not fighting the best. I will
fight anybody. I'm just not your brothers. No, I'm not
fighting somebody I came up with. And this is somebody
I've really been with, like on some real trenches. Me
and this person, I'm not the Ain't no money in
the watter that's gonna make me do that, bro.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
All right, So like let's say so, okay, I love
this back and forth by the way, because it does
put into perspective the dichotomy of single fighter sports. Right,
you don't have team I mean you do, but you don't, right,
Like you can grow up in the same gym as
somebody else to potentially have to fight them at some
point if you're around the same way, right, That's just
the nature of the sports.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
So you look at it one of two ways.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
I tend to think the way that that teo thinks
about it is as a fan, the way I would
want to see a fighter be. You know, we'll all
be friends after this is over, because as a fan,
I want to see the best fight the best. Yeah,
I would love to see Chakor fight Keishan Davis. But again,
I'm not a part of their their journey, you know
what I'm saying. I don't I don't know what experiences
they've been through together.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
I don't know what kind of relationship they have.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Is Like, you know, it keeps calling him a brother,
So that tells me that that person means more to
him than the sport of boxing does. And that's a
different that's a completely different thing, because at the end
of the day, this is a sport. Some people treat
it like it is their entire lives, and Chaquur does
outside of those instances. But I do love that this
is such a cool little back and forth because too,
you know, no friends in the industry. Chaquur got some
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people that he really cares about and won't fight. And
it's not just the coor that we've seen this from.
We've seen this from from people throughout the history of fighting.
They just won't fight some guys, and then sometimes fighting
someone then makes them one of your best friends. So
there's there's that point of it as well.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
That I would fight.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
Let's say that was the case, and you to god,
I ain't gonna see no unifications at forty if he
tries to take mine because he buddy with, Ain't you
gonna beat me? But I'm saying, ain't you gonna be saying?
Speaker 7 (29:38):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (29:39):
If you want to beat me, I know what I'm
gonna do.
Speaker 7 (29:42):
I know what I'm gonna You're gonna erase my name.
I know what I'm going to do this one.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Basically, what I'm trying to let you know is that
Box ain't gonna allow with how.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
Box is not gonna allow with it.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
Won't how Because now you're facing me, Oh.
Speaker 7 (29:56):
Ship, I'm so scared. I'm frightened, I'm so I'm scared
for my.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Life till's like, uh, boxing, gods told me to eliminate
you so that this shit doesn't happen.
Speaker 7 (30:09):
That shit don't move me, bro, I can't wait to
see you. I've been waiting on this. Oh, I don't
know how. You don't understand. I've been waiting on this
moment forever, Like it's been years and years for this
moment right here. You gave me the opportunity. I appreciate
you for that, but shit, come wit it facts.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
That's the only part of this interview where Schakor.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
It feels like Teo got under his skin a little
bit when he mentioned the fact that he wouldn't fight
everybody on his way to becoming potentially one of the
greatest of all time, that he has certain people that
he won't fight. That's the only thing I've seen Shakur
get get a little frustrated by.
Speaker 7 (30:41):
I'm gonna come out victorious. That's that's how I see it.
I don't see none else.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
This has been the Mister VERSACEI podcast. I want to
thank Teo and Chakor for joining me for today's episode.
Until next time, stay sharp.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Stay sharp, indeed, Okay, well done on the podcast host man.
That was very well done. Shout out Rick Reno, Shout
out TiO and Chaquor as well. Man, this is a
great day for the sport of boxing that these two
have decided to lock horn. This is gonna be a
fantastic day four boxing. This was a fantastic day for boxing.
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This is it, man, This is the big one, one
hundred and forty for that ring belt one verse two.
Sor looking to be a four division world chance. He
looking to send him back down to thirty five. I
love this matchup, I love the fight. Cannot wait for
this one. We're gonna have predictions, We're gonna have breakdowns,
all of.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
That coming and more. Stay tuned.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
But in the first sit down podcast and their first
press conference today, all of that.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
What did you guys think? What do you think was
the X factor?
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Was it TiO saying, listen, when it comes down to it,
I got the style to beat him. That Williams of
Payda Fight showed me what I need to know. And
he's the one coming up into my weight division and
there may be some insecurity about who he'll fight to
be the best guy where I don't have any of that.
Or is it Shaquor saying Teo has been the one
that's been insecure about me.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
He's the one that I want to take the belts off.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I'm coming up into his division, but I'm the best
in the world, and I know that the holes in
his game to beat him. I genuinely don't have the
answers yet because I'm not even fully formed as to
what I think this fight will be. But what I'll
tell you is now, I think it'll be one of
the highest level matchups we'll.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Get all year.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
But let me know down low what you guys think.
And on January thirty first, twenty twenty six, in the
new year, tiafi mol Lopez. She, of course stevens at
who wins. I guess we'll find out
Folks.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
All right, we are back on the Way concept presented
by The Ring Magazine and I am pumped for this
video because we have a sit down between Tafi Mo
Lopez and Chakor Stevenson ahead of their big time fight
on January thirty first, Madison Square Garden, Ring number six.
Shakor looking to move up and be a four division
world champ, obviously TiO looking to maintain the ring belts
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at one. But this is going to be hilarious. I
watched their press conference today and there were some moments
in that presser that made you say, ayo. It was
one of the zestiest press conferences ever, But it was
just that it was a boxing press conference that you know,
those things tend to get kind of stale. But doing
this sit down with Rick Reno on the Mister Vesace podcast,
(00:45):
I think is going to be a lot more entertaining.
So let's take a look at this. Let's see these
two talk about their matchup. It's one of the best
fights you can make in boxing, point blank period. These
two are the best in the world at a young age,
prime of both of their careers. This is what boxing needs,
is what we want more from boxing? So the fight
we know is gonna be fireworks, But what's.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
The build up gonna be?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Like, what's the thing that's going to make us tune
in on fight knife? For Ryan Garcia Devin Haney, it
was the rivalry and the chaos surrounding. For Tyson Fury
and Alexander Usik, it was undisputed at heavyweight.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
What's it gonna be for this one?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yes, championships are on the line. Yes, it's one of
the best fights you can make in boxing. Yes, it's
gonna be a display of the sweet science.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
But what else?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Anything personal? Is there anything that we're gonna see come
out in these sit downs? I'm gonna take a look.
Let's talk about it the breakdown.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Let's go.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
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Speaker 2 (01:46):
I'm sorry, let's just hold on. Let's take a look
at this podcast set up. What in the world the
Mister Versace podcast. It looks like a crypto coin of
Rick Reno.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
It's Reno Coy. They got him dressed to the nine toget,
He's got the sun classes doors.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Look at Chakur's like, what is going on? This is
the one hundred and eighty thousand dollars belt. Apparently you
got TiO with his two ring belts on.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
This is awesome.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Dude, TiO, I'm gonna start with you. When did you
first become aware of Shakuur Stevenson? When did you first
hear the name? When did you first maybe see a
fight of his?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Well?
Speaker 5 (02:21):
First off, it's great to be here, grateful, thankful to
be here, first and foremost on that part seen Chakourt back.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
In Amateurs Rol.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Yeah, I'm thinking that. I don't know if it's twenty eleven.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
Is it me?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Or I love TiO?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
But he's got like a wide like newborn baby's head,
Like what is going I don't know. He's got like
a flat, wide like skull. I don't think I've ever
seen the skull that wide.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
When were your early impressions?
Speaker 5 (02:48):
I like his style, he could fight.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Yeah, what about you, Chakur, when did you first become
aware of TiO?
Speaker 7 (02:56):
You know, it's so crazy. I really was like an
say I wasn't no nerd, but I was like a
boxing nerd, so like.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I ain't about to say I was a nerd lay Mass.
Hey kids, at all I'm watching There's nothing wrong with
being a nerd in playing sports. I read Marvel comics
and was a Division one football player. I don't mean shit.
You could be a nerd and still be an athlete,
all right. You don't have to You don't have to
act like you're not a nerd and still be athletic
and still do sports. Okay, the new age dude nerds rule,
(03:25):
all right.
Speaker 7 (03:26):
When I first kind of got away of ti O
was probably before he even knew me. But I used
to get on YouTube and I used to watch like
the DMV fights, and they used to have like the
Region two I want to say. He was with Region
two with Florida, and I seen one of his fights
up there and I kind of watched them. I thought
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he was a good fighter, and that's when I kind
of got a first with the TiO. But when I
finally first met him, probably was at the same time
he talking about.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
For the bulk of your careers, you were both under
the same promotional banner. Well you cordial friendly.
Speaker 7 (04:02):
I was good with to. I thought to was a
little jealous of me, That's what I thought it.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Did you get a censor of that thought or thinks,
because I still think that Shikor believes that to might
be a little jealous.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
TiO, were you any any jealousy in there? Because both
of you guys were being pushed, But it seemed like
to me just from the outside looking in, that he
was pushed ahead of you.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
He was.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Yeah, he was getting the fights that you want. You know,
you were calling Filoma, He got Loma. You wanted other guys.
He was getting other guys. Did you see him as
a future Folcus? At one point you were two divisions
ahead of him.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
I think that everything just plays out the way it does,
and eventually we was gonna end up meeting up with
each other eventually. I think that that's how it works, right,
when two greats collide, you bound to see a great fight.
So I just I had never seen any jealousy in
my part with him. I mean, for crying out loud,
he fell for tm USA, he got a silver medal, and.
Speaker 7 (04:58):
The whole thing I'm doing, I'm speaking on the times
where I felt like you had a push start, you
got the you used to be ahead of me. Far
as like you was the code on Terrence Coffee card.
I was underneath. Then you got the opportunity to fight
with Lima Chenko, and after that I felt like I
kind of got pushed more than you when you felt
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some type of way about the way that I was
pushed more than you when it came down to ESPN.
I remember you saying a little comment with the ESPN
only liked black fighters and all that kind of stuff.
And when you said that, I kind of felt like
it was a shot at me.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
So the hell, that's where we're going. ESPN only likes
black fighters. I don't remember that, all right, let's take
it there. Then, Shit, what we're saying too and only
watching the black fighters over at the ESPN.
Speaker 7 (05:47):
I felt like it was a little bit of jealousy.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
No, I just didn't give it enough, that's all. This
didn't give enough about it at all.
Speaker 7 (05:55):
Yeah, but when you say the comments, you said something there.
It was something you said at that time. It was
the way you felt, right.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
I just pushed the movement that I felt like we
was taking over as we are now.
Speaker 7 (06:08):
Like I said, I think you the truth. I know
him the truth and can't wait to see it.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yo, Shakur is showing them teeth off son now that
you got that gap fixed.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Shaikora is showing them shits off it man, smiling at man.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
You know what I'm saying, just throwing them teeth out there,
and he should. Everybody giving Shakur stick about fixing his
gap in his teeth, y'all would do the same shit
just cause j Cole got on the song and talked
about how he never fixed his gap in his tooth
he wanted to remain himself or whatever.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I'm not with that.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
If you gotta something like that, or you know what
I'm saying, You got the saloon doors in the middle
gums with no teeth. You want to push the shits together,
you know what I'm saying. You want to bring the
whole family together. I'm not mad at that at all.
But Shakur is flexing them, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Shakur, You, judging by the recent COMPU box numbers, you're
number one by a mile as far as fighters not
landing any power punches on you. How do you feel
when you hear a guy say he might not just
stop you, but he might make you quit the fight.
Speaker 7 (07:01):
Make me quit. It's crazy, Like I don't got no quit.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
In me, but it's cool.
Speaker 7 (07:05):
He's supposed to feel that way, like he's supposed to
say the things that he's saying on He's not saying
none out of the ordinary or something that I didn't expect.
Only thing that I kind of took away on he
got on a podcast. I want to say, he said
that I was slow m And that's the part where
I'm like, Okay, he's going to be very surprised come
fight night to where it's like you really thought I
was slow?
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Like is that.
Speaker 7 (07:26):
Something like you put in your brain and thought it
was about to come out there and work.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
It is interesting to hear, you know, both of them
talk about each other, because there's probably not two guys
that know each other better that haven't fought, but have
seen each other, been around each other, you know, ami
tournaments and follow each other's career under the same promotional manner.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Then t O and Shakur right outside of.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Again sparring together, train together, that are about to fight
each other. There's probably not guys that know how they
operate better. So if t is saying I'm gonna go
out there and make you quit, essentially break you and stop.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
You, that's something we haven't even seen.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Do see anyone get close to even hurting Shakor really
like people say that Williams of peta fight is a
pay to hit him with the right hand, and Chakor
got wobbled even though it was clearly slipped. I thought
that was one of Shakoor's better performances because he dug
down and bit down on his mouthpiece and said, I'm
not just going to play the back foot and be
slick and turn this into a very low output fight
that I'll win because I'm I'm just you know, he's
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better than Zapeta. But he went out there and dogged
it out a little bit, and I respected him for it.
I don't expect him to fight the same way versus
Tia Fima Lopez.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I really don't.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
And I think people are looking at the Zipeta fight
and going, yeah, that's the core we want. And I
don't want to say he's going to disappoint people, but
he will not fight that way with you. He won't
and TiO won't fight the same way Williamszepeta did. They'll
both be very measured. I think it'll be a very
slow paced, low output fight. I could be wrong, you know,
I could be wrong. I could see maybe they go
to war or something. But we're talking about styles making fights,
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and Tio's style, even if he's on his front foot,
he doesn't commit to a lot of punches on the
front foot, but he can do he can fight that way.
Shakur almost exclusively wants to go defense to offense versus
lead the exchange. So I don't know. Not to say
Schcord will be on the back foot the whole time.
It's not necessarily how I see the fight going. But
I don't know if this is going to be like
a knockdown, drag him out type of thing. I think
we're gonna get a defensive sweet science display from both guys, which,
(09:12):
by the way, I think works in Chakhor's favor.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
You said on there that Terrence Crawford sent one of
his little guys to come after you, implying that obviously
you want a fight eventually with Terrence Crawford.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Is this crazy? Crazy? Crazy?
Speaker 2 (09:26):
I mean, again, the difference between one and one sixty
eight and TiO is not a big one hundred and
forty pounder. Not to say Terrence is a big one
hundred and sixty eight pounder, but man, it just feels
like a massive jump. But then again, we just saw
Terrence do it first, Canello, So who knows the fight where?
Speaker 4 (09:40):
First do you see Chakord is a legitimate threat in
one forty because he's a guy moving up. At one
point you were two divisions ahead of him. And in
second to that, is this a fight where you want
to send a message to Terrence Crawford based on your
performance in this fight?
Speaker 5 (09:55):
I guess yeah. To put it all together, I mean,
you gotta fight the best, saying he's real close to Crawford,
very close to Sam, and I think that you know,
Crawford has high hopes of him, high expectations on Shakur,
And what better way? You know, I tried other ways
that didn't work, and that's just part of me just learning.
(10:17):
So I think now it's better just to do it
with action, you know, let the fist talk. And now
he's here, you know, and like you said, I was
two divisions ahead of him at one point in time.
Now he's here going up to my division. I want
forty and trying to reclaim and claim everything.
Speaker 7 (10:31):
Yeah, bro, come on, brot get on with the humble stuff.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Bro.
Speaker 7 (10:36):
I want to TiO that's rowdy, Like where where is
he at?
Speaker 6 (10:40):
Bro?
Speaker 7 (10:40):
I'll show you January thirty first, Okay, okay, we're gonna see,
We're gonna see. I don't like this version. It's like boom, no,
listen here, bro, what you're going to do? What you
going to do come fight night? That's what I want
to hear.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Yeah, good talk to him.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
It's crazy because this is not how TiO is acting
in the press conference today. Just for a little bit
of flavor here, you know, because because he is being
a little bit coy, calm, like she Corse said, a
little bit humble.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
But this is how he wasn't the presser today.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Look at this, gonna have chakar jigama.
Speaker 7 (11:13):
You know you said you're gonna do.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
What my balls?
Speaker 6 (11:20):
You feel.
Speaker 7 (11:22):
Doing that? Bro?
Speaker 5 (11:23):
It's Niagara Falls talking about He said, what room forty fortys?
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Bro?
Speaker 6 (11:32):
What's up with you?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Me? Wow?
Speaker 5 (11:35):
You hard?
Speaker 3 (11:37):
You hard?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Real hard?
Speaker 7 (11:40):
And what do you say to that?
Speaker 6 (11:45):
Like that?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
CEO is who I'm used to.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
That's the t O that was, you know at the
press conference when I was I was there in New
York with the Lucha Libre mask On talking his ship.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
That's crazy though, But like He isn't doing any of that.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
He's very composed in this interview, and maybe it's just
the mind games of like try to get Chakur to
see all versions of him, like oh, you know, I'm
laid back, you know, super humble. Ch Court deserves his
respect and at the press conference talking crazy like that.
I've never heard of the room forty one. But the
way you gotta do it, t O is messing up
the dick joke. The way he you got to say
it is you got to make Chakur say what you said. Yeah,
I'm gonna take him to the room forty Room forty yeah,
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room for these nuts.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
That's the way.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
You're not just you know, you hit the punchline before
we even get there. Even this this was the the
face to face at the presser.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
This my time, my time.
Speaker 7 (12:33):
I've been waiting on this for.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
Appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
You all already knew that that t O Senior was
gonna be talking.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Y'all knew that the the prize is right up here,
the prizes.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Right saying the prize is right up here. He's talking
about the ring belt and that's true. I mean, the
most prestigious belding boxing that's fair.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
You can't fight for them, you can't.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
I don't care. I don't need him.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
I called him a different breed babies.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
There we go.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
That's some intensity. But we're not seeing none of that
right now. Man, we're seeing and it could just be
the environment.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
You know.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Everybody's laid back right now. You know, like we're not.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
We're not trying to really be on that type of energy.
But I'm waiting for it.
Speaker 7 (13:34):
From what you're going to do.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
What is you going to do?
Speaker 7 (13:37):
Come fight night? That's what I want to hear. You'll see. Okay, okay,
I can't wait. I promise you've been here.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
I'm gonna continue to stay looking at you for years.
But been here, I'm gonna stay for years.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
I've been already.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
That's good.
Speaker 7 (13:50):
I played it out of my brain.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Got to focus on the top guy, for sure. You
focus on the number one.
Speaker 7 (13:56):
You're a beast bro from the East. Yeah, from the
I don't know, from the east. Well is Florida?
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Technically these come on, Yes, Florida's in the east. They're
literally on the East coast. Now.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Granted, so scha Court is saying that Teo is from Florida,
but reps New York. I think Theo might have been
born in New York but moved to Florida.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Now he's back. I don't know, but Florida is on
the East coast, same with New York.
Speaker 7 (14:19):
Yeah, well, you know, you're good.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
I'm great.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
There are been questions, you know, here and there about
Teo's mental state, you know, as far as the critics.
And you are a type of guy when you're in
the ring, you take guys sometimes to a dark place.
After a couple of rounds, you sort of break them.
Do you think you're gonna break him after a couple
of rounds?
Speaker 7 (14:41):
Yeah, I know I'm gonna break him. I know it's
gonna be a certain point in that fight to where
he's gonna be mentally frustrated. And when he gets mentally frustrated,
that is what I'm gonna take.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
What do you think too?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
So I was gonna say that the way that Rick
is making it sound, he's making Chakur sound like a
knockout artist or somebody that you know is a power
puncher that wears you down and eventually just breaks your soul.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
What he is really because Shakur is not that. What
Shakur is.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
And what he can do is out box you to
a degree where your Plan A isn't working, Plan bcdef
all the way through Z isn't working and won't work,
and you have no more answer, and so you are
at the mercy of just whatever Shakur wants to do,
you're gonna have to do to remain in the fight,
or you take a chance and then Shakur can light
you up with his hands.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Right.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
So that's essentially what you know, the mental break of
guys that fight Shakur. Because he's such a frustrating puzzle
to master. No one's been able to unlock the code
to beat him, or to even get close to it.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
As of right now. So that I understand you have
to do to combat his style.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Because you're a guy who likes to analyze your opponent,
you look for those openings and you capitalize on it.
But you can't really fight like that with a guy
with the style of Shakur. And you've said you may
have to make this fight really rough. What do you
mean by that?
Speaker 5 (15:58):
I think that is just two guys that believe that
no one could No one could get into their defense,
no one could get into their offense, no one could
actually get into their style Stylistically, he believes he's the best,
and I know I'm the best, and that's why we're
getting to this point now. He wants to challenge himself.
I'm here, I'm here for it. I'm here to challenge
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myself every time. That's part of boxing. And I think
that one thing we are doing here, mister Visage is
one thing for a fact, is that we're showing all
the next generation. This is how you do it.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
You don't do it.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
In your in your early thirties. You do it now.
You do it when the time is right, and this
is the right time.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
That Machs is one hundred percent true. And both these
guys are good representations of that. Devin Haney is a great,
great representation of that. Ryan Garcia is a great representation.
You're seeing the younger fighters, and for some reason, it's
specifically around the one hundred and thirty to one hundred
and forty pounds range. Uh, the younger fighters getting these
fights done earlier. We're not waiting until Terrence Crawford is,
(17:01):
you know, in his late thirties for him to have
that breakout opponent. We're not waiting until, you know, Tank
is in his early thirties to have that breakout well,
it was going to be the breakout show with Jake Paul,
but you know the breakout opponents, even with Ryan Garcia
in his late twenties, and Garcia was a lot younger,
but still you're you're not getting those type of fights
until later on in guys careers, and now you're seeing
(17:22):
prime versus prime. This needs to be the mainstay in boxing.
It desperately needs this.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
It's why are we fighting in the big room. That's
why everything is on the line. That's why I'm putting
everything that has got to be you know what I mean,
He's got more to gain. True, I got nothing to lose,
So where is that going too any I.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Mean, Teo does have a lot to lose. He's literally
got belts to lose. It's more that Chakor doesn't really
have a lot to lose because he's moving up and wait,
because he isn't putting a title up here, he doesn't
have much to lose. TiO has everything to lose here
belts wise, and a guy coming up in his weight class.
Although when you look at the two of them, and
I was going to say this earlier. You can definitely
see that Shakoor is gonna be just fine at one forty.
(18:02):
I've said TiO is a smaller one forty compared to
other guys that have fought it that way class, Jaquor
probably be bigger than TiO, maybe not muscle density wise,
but height reach all that Chaquor is gonna be.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
You were practically one foot out the door of this division.
You wanted to fight Jron Ennis. That didn't come about,
not because of you. You wanted that fight.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
Then tell him why. If it wasn't me, then who
I think?
Speaker 4 (18:23):
And Ennis didn't want to stick around at the weight,
as far as what Ennis's people told me, he did,
But I know you were willing to fight him, even at.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
A catch weight because I'm crazy.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
So what was it about Shakour where you said, you know,
I'll stick around at one and fight this guy.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
His last fight, said Peta, his last fight. You don't
know how money.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
I'm telling you, though, I don't think Shakhor is gonna
fight like that against Teo. I don't And maybe this
is to like trying to encourage him to do that, right,
And I even heard Teo Senior say that in the
press conference, Like, you know, we watched that fight. We
think we got the answer. I don't think Shakor is
going to go back to that style where he is
taking more risks, where he's in the pocket for longer.
You know, he's standing with his back on the ropes
(19:02):
at times, being flat footed, trying to roll punches encounter.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
I don't see that Shakor in this fight.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
People are talking about him on every scale level. And
when it came to the talks of me and Hani
fighting in August, I didn't go for it because he
had no motion. Now he does after the Brian Norman,
but Shakura, it's all there, But I didn't focus on him.
I was focused on what's next, trusting my power team,
(19:26):
trusting on my team and what can do and who
can we fight next? Bro.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
By the way, we have so many good fights that
could potentially be brewing here in the next you know,
four to five months, at one forty you have or
one forty seven. Really you have this at one forty
with Tiafimo and Shakor, depending on what Tank Davis is
doing right now. I don't know if he's gonna be
fighting in any time soon. But then Shakor, if he
should win this could go and fight Tank or maybe
even tia Fimo could do the same. Then you have
(19:53):
Ryan Garcia fighting Mario Barrios in February, the winter that
one's probably gonna get Devin Haney and Devin Haney and
Bill are saying they want fight Roly Romero. In the meantime,
there's some really good fights at one forty seven and
at one.
Speaker 7 (20:04):
I know to expect the best version of TiO. TiO
kind of shows up when the guys that you think
is gonna beat him, that's when he shows up the most.
So I'm expecting the best version of him, expect the
best version of me, and I think it's gonna be
a tremendous fight.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
I'm not.
Speaker 7 (20:26):
This dude is in my way. That's how I look
at it. Like the same way he probably feel about me.
I feel the same way about home. He's in my way.
I'm chasing greatness, but I wasn't in your way.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
You came up to my weight. Yeah, you didn't have
nobody at thirty five.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
That's true. But you the god, Bro, you the god,
you four kings. You been to God for you the
guy on the pound for pound. I agree, I agree,
I understand.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Johan, I am out a guy.
Speaker 7 (20:49):
If you are, you're the god bro. You know you
the god bro.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
I mean Schkor is the pound on the pound for
pound because he's a three division champ. I know to
is upset about that because he's also a multi division champ.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
But I'm in here thinking about something. This has nothing
to do with.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
What's being said, but I do want to I want
to point it out. Shakor is moving up to one forty.
I keep looking at his hands, and I know this
is a bit of a tired, you know, played out discussion,
But as the weight gets higher, does it I wonder
if it impacts because of the way guys can take
punches at a higher weight, how Shakor's hands hold up
at one forty. Genuinely, I asked that question because it
feels like that's been the only thing that's really set
(21:23):
him back, outside of, you know, maybe being more defensively
aware and less offensive at times.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
I do wonder, how is.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
It going to look if Chakor's hands can't handle it
at forty right? That's that's one of the things I
worry about, because again, they got the way the guys
take punches bigger dudes. Again, t O is not the
biggest guy at one forty. It's just something to keep
an eye on.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
So it's an issue that it's been persistent with Shakor.
Speaker 7 (21:45):
But you're in my way, so I got to move
you on my weight. That's how I look at these. Nope,
I'm I ain't nobody taking food off my table. That's
all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
I'll tell you this, though you bit more than you
could chew.
Speaker 7 (21:58):
Feel that way for sure, but come fighting, you gonna
realize it's a lot different than being on the outside
than being inside of you.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
Yes, they all say, okay.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Both guys have great points here. Because Shaquur is like, listen,
you're in my way. I'm not even sure what To's like, No,
that's not the way. The mentality of it. Maybe Too's
like I don't even look at people being in my way,
that my path is just my pad.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
But I like Schakor's mentality, like he's like, you're in
my way at one forty because I'm going to be
an all time great. So it didn't matter at thirty five,
at forty, at forty seven, however, high, Chakor goes he's
trying to be one of the greatest that's ever lived,
So who cares you know what the weight class is.
He was looking for the number one guy in every
weight class, and so I like that mentality. I'm gonna
have to move you out of my way to take
that spot. That's just the way it happens in every
(22:41):
sport and walk alive. You either step up or step
aside right or get moved. But then too said, listen,
you bet off more than you could chew here. This
is not the same as thirty five guys. It's not
the same as the guys at one thirties, ain't.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
The same as the Olympics. I like that. That's a
nice little rebuttal there.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
And then scha course says, it's different watching me from
the outside to being inside. And I think that's one
of the things that no one really thinks about when
we talk about, you know, my matchups like this, We
as the viewing audience, see his fight style from the
outside and think, oh, man, guys just need to put
the pressure on him. If guys just through with some combinations,
which we found out was the pta, that's not the case.
But it's different even with the guys standing in front
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of you and you not being able to hit them,
because they are so good with their anticipation, with their timing,
with their defense, with their feet, with their counterpunches, and
between these two, they both are very confident that they're
about to show the other one a different level than
they've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
The question is who's actually right, who's.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Lying not knowing they're lying, but who's lying to themselves,
and who's actually right about that?
Speaker 7 (23:35):
Yes, they all say, Okay, I'm slow, right.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Lnsally, what the hells you? It's so fucked up.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
He was quickly Nally, Oh my god.
Speaker 7 (23:51):
Mentally, Okay, I'm talking about I'm slow in the boxing
ring right. Mentally I'm talking about the boxing which he
was talking about.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Oh right.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
It's kind of a double entendre.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
It's kind of a double meaning here from t O
because he keeps he's frustrated chakord number one because that
was a good line. You know, as much as it's
gonna be insensitive and people are going to be upset
about that, it's a good line. Scores like I'm slow though, right,
heels like, yeah, mentally, you're slow. But he's not meaning
at least, you know, he could mean outside of the ring,
like oh, you're not well educated or whatever, like, oh
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you're not you know, you can't think, I guess. And
then in what I think he's really trying to get
at with Shakor is like, no, I believe that you
are not on my level of you know, the boxing, IQ,
You're not on my level in terms of thinking about
this sport. Thinking in the ring.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
You're slower there than I, and Shakur is not catching
the hint.
Speaker 7 (24:40):
Okay, you're gonna see. I promise you're gonna see.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
By the way I should say, I don't think Chakor
is either slow mentally outside of the ring or I
just need to make sure I say that. I think
he's one of the smarter fighters in boxing.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
I know, Shakour, you were pushing for that belt and
there's a pay to fight and it couldn't really happen
because of a paida's ranking, not because of yours. Now
you got it.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
Who had the ring at thirty five?
Speaker 7 (25:04):
Nobody?
Speaker 5 (25:04):
They should have gave you the ring.
Speaker 7 (25:06):
Yeah, I agree, but you know, come with it, bro.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
No, I'm just saying they should have done that.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Well, it's usually number one and two and one and
two is him and Keyshawn and him and Keyshaw and
the close friends, and that fight couldn't happen.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
They Oh they buddies.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
This is where I do like, you know, where TiO
exists in boxing, Like he doesn't have a ton of
like fighter friends.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
You know what I'm saying as.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Far as like, oh, I'm not going to fight that
guy that's in my division because we grew up together.
Oh I'm not going to fight that guy in my
division because we became friends during X, Y and Z.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Maybe the Olympics steal. Don't really care about none.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Of that, right Teo is is is like he kind
of said they're enemy number one in terms of the
fighters around that division.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Sometimes because of the stuff he says, they.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Can get quite you know, vulgar and crazy. But there
are other parts of that that I think are endearing
because he won't hold up a division, he won't like
not do certain fights because he's got relationships with people
trying to fight everybody.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
Yes, sir, so you played yourself all right?
Speaker 7 (26:08):
How I play myself? Bro?
Speaker 5 (26:10):
You gonna gotta bring you gonna add too?
Speaker 6 (26:12):
Like me?
Speaker 5 (26:12):
Right now?
Speaker 7 (26:12):
I ain't gonna fight my brother.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
See, that's it's the thing. Man, ain't no brothers in
this thing.
Speaker 7 (26:20):
You ain't got brothers, brother, but I got brothers.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
I had one, but he ain't here no more.
Speaker 7 (26:25):
So it's like I'm just telling you how I look
at it, Bro, I don't get it.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
I bet you that plan is is this and this
is it. He goes to one forty, tries to claim
it that he'll probably go back down to thirty five.
Let Keyshank go to forty and do his thing at forty,
and then Crawford's got his agenda. He's already on his
way out soon. Eventually it's a little little I.
Speaker 7 (26:48):
Got a question, though, Bro, what do one man's plan
or whatever you got to do? Got to do it?
Speaker 5 (26:53):
Because it's not boxing.
Speaker 7 (26:56):
It's boxing. Yeah, it is fight you fighting nobody else.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
It is not the fight you, but I understand, but
it's not the essence of what.
Speaker 7 (27:04):
We what we do with boxing, bro, box is this
need versus you, the best versus the best box We
can all.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
Kick it when we're done retired. We kick it when
we are.
Speaker 7 (27:17):
Right there on your ships right now right Are you
the one that I am? So if that's the case.
Speaker 8 (27:23):
What are we talking about while we talking about don't flip,
don't flip it now, I'm just I'm just, I'm really
you had opportunities to be we're talking about you had
the opportunity to be the best at.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
One thirty five. Okay, you ain't tend to do that
because because you got.
Speaker 7 (27:37):
Brothers, My brothers. Hold on talking about let's let's let's
understand what you're saying. Keith Shawn had one fight where
he got the belt.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Right right at thirty five.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
Yes, okay, after that fight he had, but you getting
what I'm talking he had a belt for it. No,
you're saying that I'm not fighting the best. I will
fight anybody. I'm just not your brothers. No, I'm not
fighting somebody I came up with. And this is somebody
I've really been with, like on some real trenches. Me
and this person, I'm not the Ain't no money in
the watter that's gonna make me do that, bro.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
All right, So like let's say so, okay, I love
this back and forth by the way, because it does
put into perspective the dichotomy of single fighter sports. Right,
you don't have team I mean you do, but you don't, right,
Like you can grow up in the same gym as
somebody else to potentially have to fight them at some
point if you're around the same way, right, That's just
the nature of the sports.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
So you look at it one of two ways.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
I tend to think the way that that teo thinks
about it is as a fan, the way I would
want to see a fighter be. You know, we'll all
be friends after this is over, because as a fan,
I want to see the best fight the best. Yeah,
I would love to see Chakor fight Keishan Davis. But again,
I'm not a part of their their journey, you know
what I'm saying. I don't I don't know what experiences
they've been through together.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
I don't know what kind of relationship they have.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Is Like, you know, it keeps calling him a brother,
So that tells me that that person means more to
him than the sport of boxing does. And that's a
different that's a completely different thing, because at the end
of the day, this is a sport. Some people treat
it like it is their entire lives, and Chaquur does
outside of those instances. But I do love that this
is such a cool little back and forth because too,
you know, no friends in the industry. Chaquur got some
(29:13):
people that he really cares about and won't fight. And
it's not just the coor that we've seen this from.
We've seen this from from people throughout the history of fighting.
They just won't fight some guys, and then sometimes fighting
someone then makes them one of your best friends. So
there's there's that point of it as well.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
That I would fight.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
Let's say that was the case, and you to god,
I ain't gonna see no unifications at forty if he
tries to take mine because he buddy with, Ain't you
gonna beat me? But I'm saying, ain't you gonna be saying?
Speaker 7 (29:38):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (29:39):
If you want to beat me, I know what I'm
gonna do.
Speaker 7 (29:42):
I know what I'm gonna You're gonna erase my name.
I know what I'm going to do this one.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Basically, what I'm trying to let you know is that
Box ain't gonna allow with how.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
Box is not gonna allow with it.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
Won't how Because now you're facing me, Oh.
Speaker 7 (29:56):
Ship, I'm so scared. I'm frightened, I'm so I'm scared
for my.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Life till's like, uh, boxing, gods told me to eliminate
you so that this shit doesn't happen.
Speaker 7 (30:09):
That shit don't move me, bro, I can't wait to
see you. I've been waiting on this. Oh, I don't
know how. You don't understand. I've been waiting on this
moment forever, Like it's been years and years for this
moment right here. You gave me the opportunity. I appreciate
you for that, but shit, come wit it facts.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
That's the only part of this interview where Schakor.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
It feels like Teo got under his skin a little
bit when he mentioned the fact that he wouldn't fight
everybody on his way to becoming potentially one of the
greatest of all time, that he has certain people that
he won't fight. That's the only thing I've seen Shakur
get get a little frustrated by.
Speaker 7 (30:41):
I'm gonna come out victorious. That's that's how I see it.
I don't see none else.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
This has been the Mister VERSACEI podcast. I want to
thank Teo and Chakor for joining me for today's episode.
Until next time, stay sharp.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Stay sharp, indeed, Okay, well done on the podcast host man.
That was very well done. Shout out Rick Reno, Shout
out TiO and Chaquor as well. Man, this is a
great day for the sport of boxing that these two
have decided to lock horn. This is gonna be a
fantastic day four boxing. This was a fantastic day for boxing.
(31:15):
This is it, man, This is the big one, one
hundred and forty for that ring belt one verse two.
Sor looking to be a four division world chance. He
looking to send him back down to thirty five. I
love this matchup, I love the fight. Cannot wait for
this one. We're gonna have predictions, We're gonna have breakdowns,
all of.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
That coming and more. Stay tuned.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
But in the first sit down podcast and their first
press conference today, all of that.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
What did you guys think? What do you think was
the X factor?
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Was it TiO saying, listen, when it comes down to it,
I got the style to beat him. That Williams of
Payda Fight showed me what I need to know. And
he's the one coming up into my weight division and
there may be some insecurity about who he'll fight to
be the best guy where I don't have any of that.
Or is it Shaquor saying Teo has been the one
that's been insecure about me.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
He's the one that I want to take the belts off.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I'm coming up into his division, but I'm the best
in the world, and I know that the holes in
his game to beat him. I genuinely don't have the
answers yet because I'm not even fully formed as to
what I think this fight will be. But what I'll
tell you is now, I think it'll be one of
the highest level matchups we'll.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Get all year.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
But let me know down low what you guys think.
And on January thirty first, twenty twenty six, in the
new year, tiafi mol Lopez. She, of course stevens at
who wins. I guess we'll find out
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