Tyson Fury has announced his “Return” to boxing once again. He says his goal is to fight Usyk in a trilogy bout, but I think something else is going on.. Something the sport desperately needs.. Once and for all Fury vs AJ
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, so we're back the way concept presented by
The Ring and today Tyson Fury is back in the
sport of boxing and apparently he wants to fight Alexander Usik.
And he's not the only one that wants that. In fact,
the man himself, h E. Turkey Ella Shake is hinting
that he potentially wants that, and I I got a
different idea. What do I mean the breakdown? Let's go
(00:20):
as of this was July second, couple days ago. By
the way, Happy Fourth of July to all my Americans
out there, because I do think this is the greatest
country on Earth and uh yeah, Happy Birthday America. But
two days ago, this report came out from The Ring
magazine says Tyson Fury is set to come out of
retirement and return to boxing in twenty twenty six. Turkey
Ella Shik has confirmed. Before we go into what Turkey said,
(00:42):
is anybody surprised by this?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
The answer is no.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Everybody knows that Tyson Fury probably wasn't retired when he did,
and that he's done this before. Retired for a bit.
Come out of retirement made people think he was done
with the sport. Then blatantly tells people that he can't
beat them with the sport, that he's addicted to boxing,
that he trains every day, that he's barring three times
a week without fighting. This guy loves this sport. He's
still relatively young, and he's in the heavyweight division where
(01:06):
careers last longer than most sitcoms on American television. Yes,
I'm looking at you, Gray's anatomy. It's time to hang
at the up. The point is Tyson Fury is back,
and according to h E and as we'll see in
a second, according to Tyson Fury, he wants the Usik trilogy.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
And it's not just Tyson that wants the Usik trilogy.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
It's Turkey Ella Shake like he said quote, I talked
with him and I have his word to have him
in riodd season in twenty twenty six. We have a
rabbit to hunt. And for those that know, Tyson Fury
has referred to Alexander Usik as the rabbits, and funny enough,
Usik has kind of embraced the rabbit with the rabbit's
foot and the whole thing, kind of embracing Dyson Fury
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trying to make fun of him, but he kind of
flipped it on him and also flipped two fights on
Tyson Fury going to and.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Zero against the Gypsy King.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
So I don't know if there's much of a need
for a third fight other than you know, the potential
eyeballs that are gonna be on it. But I will
counter you with a fight that I think is even
more popular.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I think a fight that may even.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Be being set up by his excellency Turkeylla Shake.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
But I don't know any of this.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
I just think instead of Tyson Fury going and getting
the third fight with Alexander Usik barring a win from
Alexander Usik versus Daniel Dubois in July nineteenth, why not
do Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua this fight makes all
the sense in the world. Both of them have losses,
two losses to Alexander Usik. Both of them have faced
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points in their careers now where it's a bit of
a turning point, right If Tyson goes into the Yusik
fight and loses a third time, does his drawing power diminish?
Anthony Joshua just lost to Daniel Dubois, took a long
time off the sport. Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua was
the one fight that got away. It was the one
fight we never got. For years and years we talked
about this thing, and it just makes all the sense
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in the world to do it right now. And again
this is just conspiracy theory. Wade here, you might as
well put the ten foil hat on me.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
But I feel like.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Trek yalas Shak is being a little too on the
nose with saying we have a rabbit to hunt, because again,
think about it this way. Yes, he's talking about twenty
twenty six, and that's far and away enough time for
if Usik does beat Dubois, which you know, we'll see
Duas on a hot streak right now, maybe he can
switch things up. I don't think that was a low
blow hit him within the first fight. Regardless, that would
be far and away enough time, almost a year plus
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to do the fight in Riot season. But what if
that isn't the fight they're playing. What if they actually
are trying to get Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury together
because it makes all the sense in the world, and
because neither of the guys have a fight lined up.
I would argue that Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua would
do more in pay per view, more in revenue, more eyeballs,
and in some ways be more important for both fighters
(03:43):
right now than even Tyson Fury challenging for the heavyweight
belt for the third time. And you can give me
the argument that Tyson Fury was close to winning the
first fight and did well in the second fight as well,
and I'm not going to disagree with you. It was
a very close fight in the first and then the
first part of the second fight. In the first half
of the fight, I thought it was a close fight
as well before Usik in both fights put his foot
on the pedal and eventually ran away with it like
(04:06):
a wrap. And obviously we can remember Tyson Fury did
not think he lost the second fight.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Awful. He was kid, so I'm awfully he was gonna
get it, honest, I'll swatch are going forward round for
spot to fight from.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
That was him talking to his former trainer Ben Davidson.
I did not think Tyson Fury was as close in
the second fight as he was in the first. Even
after getting rocked in the first fight, I still thought
he was closer in that one. So I guess in
my mind, just my opinion. I don't know what would
be different this time around. Tyson seems to think that
he was robbed in the second fight and that if
he did it in England it would be different. I
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don't know if that's the case, and and even if
it is the case, Turkey alas Shaik is saying that
I have his word to have him in Riodd's season
in twenty twenty six. Now again, I could just be
misreading that as a re ODD season branded event taking
place in England, but that seems to me like Turkey
Alla Shak wants to fight back in Saudi Arabia. So
I don't know what would be different the third time around,
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other than the fact that Tyson may train a little
differently and it may be tough to beat a guy
three times point is I just I don't know. Doesn't
seem like the fight that makes the most sense. And
Turkey alas Shak is known so far from making the
fights we want to see within his power right, he
has made the Bivol better BEV one and two. He
has made Tyson fury USI He's made big fight after
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a big fight. So I just don't know if this
is a little bit of misdirection from Turkey, or maybe
it is just just right on the nose. But regardless,
I think the fight that I would want to see more,
to be honest, is Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua. But again,
you also have to give Tyson a reason to come
out of retirement. Whether people want to see the third
fight or not, Tyson surely wants to have a third
(05:44):
shot at the belt.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I would think.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
I think it probably means more to him than fighting
Anthony Joshua for no belt. But this is what Tyson
Fury had to say regarding his comeback and why he
wants to come back to boxing.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I'm out fate, I wont everything I've got to do.
I said fight was a clear fucking victory for the
Gypsy King.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Incorrect.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
I don't know where he he comes up with this ideas.
And you could say this's a close fight. You can
say that Tyson Fury fought well up until the fifth round,
maybe into the sixth and seventh, but as we got
into the seven through twelve rounds, this was completely one
sided to Alexander Usik and quite frankly, if you look
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back on the fight and a no coffee box doesn't
tell the entirety of the story. But if you just
look back at punches thrown versus punches landed in this fight,
Ur he threw more, landed less, Usik threw less, landed more,
and he threw less while landing more round by round,
And you can see his punch stats be deadly accurate
from rounds pretty much six on seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve.
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He's throwing fifty percent damn near in eight through twelve,
and it's not just jabs or light punches. Over half
of his punches were power punches landed flush. So I
just I don't see where Fury gets this idea that
he clearly won the second fight. He was clearly, in
my mind, out boxed in the second fight, more so
than even in the first. You could have the argument
for the first fight potentially going to Fury, and that
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would be more believable than him winning the second fight.
So I don't know where he's deluded himself into thing.
And this was robbed from him, but point blank, period,
he lost the second fight.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Anyone in boxing could see that.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
A complete load of dog shit, Yeah, political, whatever you.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Want to call it. And Usk's very experienced, by.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
The way, we can't forget that in the ring, Tyson
Fury said the reason, or at least paraphrased to say,
the reason that Usik won the second fight was because
there was a war going on in the Ukraine and
they wanted to give him the win. That's the level
of delusion we're talking about with Tyson Fury right now.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Again, he's coming off for two fights from me, which
is debatable whether he won him or not, which he
didn't win him, but he got the decision, which.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Is all that matters.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
If I was going to come back, I'd come back
for Ushaki, well, I want a fair result in Englands.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Would he be the only fighter that you've come back
for one on one? Immediately? I'd be the most fight
I want. I won't want to fair fight. I don't
want any favors. I want a fair fight, a fair assault,
which I believe and I know I didn't that second fight.
I fucking thought I want it by five rounds. I've
watched it.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Tyson Fury thinks he won the second fight.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
By five round which rounds genuinely like you, how you
even argue that he won it by five rounds? There's
no logical argument for that. I mean, again, it's Tyson Fury.
He's talking out of his ass. But the other thing too,
is like Turkey Alla Shaik is clearly saying he wants
Tyson to go rabbit hunting.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
He is saying we are going rabbit hunting.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Is in Turkey and Tyson, And let's not forget Turkey
has been on the side of Tyson Fury when it
comes to most of the fights, like he actively is
like Tyson is gonna beat Francis and Gan who I'm sorry,
Tyson gonna be Usik, I'm sorry. And Tyson sitting here
talking about politicalist political that that has no.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Effect on him winning or losing.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Clearly, if Turkey wanted him to beat Usik and Husak
beat him twice, then has nothing to do with any
political anything.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I don't know what he's.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Talking about there, but yeah, he did not win the
second fight at all, and let alone by five rounds.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Literally chiulndred and fifty times on each.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Way, I have two hundred and fifty times he rewatched
it two hundred and fifty times.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Bullshit, say that's away for him to win, but I
know you can. They can do what they want. If
they say it's fucking Tuesday, it's Tuesday. I don't make
excuses on with.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
The next thing.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I don't make excuses except the reason that Usik won
is because there was a war going on in Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Never forget it.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
So anyway, here is more of Tyson talking about why
he would want to fight Usik right now.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Usak because I want the revenge in England. That's all
I want.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I want my fair show, and I don't believe I've
got a fair shout the last two times. So I
don't know what I'm gonna have to do because I
can't maybe go to this is shuit.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Well yeah, not some one. I won't if I don't
get that that it would be Joshua the biggest.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Britch Smike would bright, Yes, it would.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
All records would sell out Ado in an hour.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Yep, it's a fight that I think can can happen
for sure if I decided to come.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Back, if I did come back, hy pathetically.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Speaking, that's the one man, that is the one, and
he says the reason why that's the one obviously personally
to Tyson, it means more to grab the belts off
oohsick it means more to right the two losses, the
only two losses of his career. It means more for that,
and I get it. But one hundred thousand people the fight,
the fans, and especially the UK fans, because let's be honest,
(10:42):
right now, boxing is white hot in the UK, is
more popular. It has got bigger stars right now in
the UK than the US for the most part, outside
of a couple of names. I can run through and
you guys would argue in the comments, but the point.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Is he's right. They would sell out Whimley.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
This would be one of, if not the biggest fight
in British boxing history.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
It just makes all the sense in the world.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Again, personally, I get it for Tyson it's the second option,
but for the fans, for the sport, for the right
matchups and where both guys are in their careers, this
is the best matchup. This is the only matchup that
makes sense for both guys right now, coming off the
losses they've come off of the guys that beat them.
Fighting for the bell and again, I know this is
talking about a year from now, but still, for every
(11:25):
reason he listed.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
There and he's right, this fight needs to happen.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
It would be more of a travesty to the sport
if we don't get Tyson and aj rather than us
getting the trilogy between Tyson and Usik by far, point
blank period. And that should be the only reason, that's
the only argument that I should have to make as
to why that fight should happen, because if we don't
get it, it will be one of the greatest fights
we never got. If we don't get Tyson, Fury and
(11:51):
Usik for the third time, does it really matter? And
I think that's probably all I need.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
To say about this.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
They're talking about riat season twenty twenty six. It makes
all the sense in the world to do it at Wimbley.
If they could book it one hundred thousand people would
definitely sell out. Whatever the number is at Wimley ninety thousand.
I've heard before one hundred thousand. But this one's a
grudge match. It doesn't even have to be for the
best British boxer ever, because that's not the case. I
think that title goes to Lennox Lewis. But for the
modern era, this is one of those fights that if
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we don't get it will be a damn shame and
it won't have that punctuation mark on either guy's career
that it really should have, right, either guy retiring before
we get that would be a disappointment, I think, and
even to them to some degree. Right they've all made
millions of dollars, they all have all the money in
the world, but if they still have that fire about fighting,
you know that both of them deep down inside, I've
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always looked across the island and said I could beat
that guy. I'm really the face of British boxing, and
now both guys have an opportunity to prove. I think
Anthony Joshua has done a lot more to keep his
fan base strong and come back from adversity over the years,
whereas Tyson Fury has a strong fan base. Don't get
me wrong, but sometimes the way he acts and kind
of talks, he kind of fluctuates back and forth with him. Regardless,
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they both have massive fan bases, both of Harry Bridge
boxing at points in their career, and both have been
the face of British boxing. So I think it's just
now time to settle. And then Tyson Fury also says this.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
And I to box, do you j FO you want
on the glove on they won side he beat down. Well, listen,
I wish you mud.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Can he fight against in sec what styles may fight
on his style on my style, don't tell.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
I mean, that's great to say it all, but it's
been a while since Tyson Fury had one of those
you're not gonna lay a glove on me performances, Guys
that were both good technically and weren't good technically. Everybody
laid a glove on him since the Deontay Wilder fight.
Deontay knocked him down and he rose up like the undertaker.
Ranci Singhanu, who had never had a boxing match before,
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hit him with a left hook and knocked him down.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Who sick is touched in with the left hand and
wobbled him damn near sent him to the floor. I
don't know if I believe anymore.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
That Tyson Fury is as slick as potentially he was
early in his career. That the guy that outboxed Vladimir Klitschko.
I don't know if that guy is still in there,
so I don't. I mean, again, that matchup cool, but again,
I'm just gonna put it out there. I think it
would mean more if Tyson beats Anthony Joshua and then
or Anthony Joshua beat Tyson regardless the winner either fought Usick,
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if he beats Daniel dubast or in some fashion, there's
some rematches that happen.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Either way, it's a clear choice. From now.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Again, my opinion means nothing when it comes to what
actually will happen.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Am I glad that Tyson is talking about returning.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yeah, absolutely, because when he's into sport it's better than
when he's not. I mean, that's just it's another massive
heavyweight name. Yes, it comes with some all right, We're
gonna have to hear Tyson beloviate and sometimes downright lie
about things that have happened to him and talk some
absolute bollocks here and there. But eventually he will fight,
and when he fights, he is entertaining to watch. He's
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one of the best fighters at heavyweight in the world.
So yes, of course the sport is better with him
in it. I just think the best fight, I think,
the most satisfying. I think the one the sport needs
the most, and the one that will live on through
the history books regardless of who wins or loses, is
Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua that's the fight I think needs
to happen.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I hope that that's the fight that does happen.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
And I'm not so sure that this tweet from Turkey
Allas Shake and the Ring magazine is not more window dressing.
Maybe I'm wrong, but to be so blunt about having
him just come back and fight Alexander Usik, I think
there may be a little bit more going on, especially
hearing people like Eddie Hearn talking about how at all
points Turkey Allas Shake wants to make the biggest fights
possible for the fans, for the sport. I think everybody
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in that circle knows, and really all over the world
knows that at heavyweight there's no bigger fight, even for
a world title. Right now, I'm gonna put my name
on that one. I'm gonna stamp that. I don't think
there's a bigger fight at heavyweight world title included or
not in Tyson Fury in Anthony Joshua.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
That's the fight that needs to be made.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
You disagree, let me know in the comments below, or
if you agree, let me know regardless what happens next
for Tyson Fury, He's apparently out of retirement and back
into boxing. I don't have those answers. I know what
I want, but I don't have those answers, So I
guess find out
All right, so we're back the way concept presented by
The Ring and today Tyson Fury is back in the
sport of boxing and apparently he wants to fight Alexander Usik.
And he's not the only one that wants that. In fact,
the man himself, h E. Turkey Ella Shake is hinting
that he potentially wants that, and I I got a
different idea. What do I mean the breakdown? Let's go
(00:20):
as of this was July second, couple days ago. By
the way, Happy Fourth of July to all my Americans
out there, because I do think this is the greatest
country on Earth and uh yeah, Happy Birthday America. But
two days ago, this report came out from The Ring
magazine says Tyson Fury is set to come out of
retirement and return to boxing in twenty twenty six. Turkey
Ella Shik has confirmed. Before we go into what Turkey said,
(00:42):
is anybody surprised by this?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
The answer is no.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Everybody knows that Tyson Fury probably wasn't retired when he did,
and that he's done this before. Retired for a bit.
Come out of retirement made people think he was done
with the sport. Then blatantly tells people that he can't
beat them with the sport, that he's addicted to boxing,
that he trains every day, that he's barring three times
a week without fighting. This guy loves this sport. He's
still relatively young, and he's in the heavyweight division where
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careers last longer than most sitcoms on American television. Yes,
I'm looking at you, Gray's anatomy. It's time to hang
at the up. The point is Tyson Fury is back,
and according to h E and as we'll see in
a second, according to Tyson Fury, he wants the Usik trilogy.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
And it's not just Tyson that wants the Usik trilogy.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
It's Turkey Ella Shake like he said quote, I talked
with him and I have his word to have him
in riodd season in twenty twenty six. We have a
rabbit to hunt. And for those that know, Tyson Fury
has referred to Alexander Usik as the rabbits, and funny enough,
Usik has kind of embraced the rabbit with the rabbit's
foot and the whole thing, kind of embracing Dyson Fury
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trying to make fun of him, but he kind of
flipped it on him and also flipped two fights on
Tyson Fury going to and.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Zero against the Gypsy King.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
So I don't know if there's much of a need
for a third fight other than you know, the potential
eyeballs that are gonna be on it. But I will
counter you with a fight that I think is even
more popular.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I think a fight that may even.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Be being set up by his excellency Turkeylla Shake.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
But I don't know any of this.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
I just think instead of Tyson Fury going and getting
the third fight with Alexander Usik barring a win from
Alexander Usik versus Daniel Dubois in July nineteenth, why not
do Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua this fight makes all
the sense in the world. Both of them have losses,
two losses to Alexander Usik. Both of them have faced
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points in their careers now where it's a bit of
a turning point, right If Tyson goes into the Yusik
fight and loses a third time, does his drawing power diminish?
Anthony Joshua just lost to Daniel Dubois, took a long
time off the sport. Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua was
the one fight that got away. It was the one
fight we never got. For years and years we talked
about this thing, and it just makes all the sense
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in the world to do it right now. And again
this is just conspiracy theory. Wade here, you might as
well put the ten foil hat on me.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
But I feel like.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Trek yalas Shak is being a little too on the
nose with saying we have a rabbit to hunt, because again,
think about it this way. Yes, he's talking about twenty
twenty six, and that's far and away enough time for
if Usik does beat Dubois, which you know, we'll see
Duas on a hot streak right now, maybe he can
switch things up. I don't think that was a low
blow hit him within the first fight. Regardless, that would
be far and away enough time, almost a year plus
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to do the fight in Riot season. But what if
that isn't the fight they're playing. What if they actually
are trying to get Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury together
because it makes all the sense in the world, and
because neither of the guys have a fight lined up.
I would argue that Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua would
do more in pay per view, more in revenue, more eyeballs,
and in some ways be more important for both fighters
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right now than even Tyson Fury challenging for the heavyweight
belt for the third time. And you can give me
the argument that Tyson Fury was close to winning the
first fight and did well in the second fight as well,
and I'm not going to disagree with you. It was
a very close fight in the first and then the
first part of the second fight. In the first half
of the fight, I thought it was a close fight
as well before Usik in both fights put his foot
on the pedal and eventually ran away with it like
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a wrap. And obviously we can remember Tyson Fury did
not think he lost the second fight.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Awful. He was kid, so I'm awfully he was gonna
get it, honest, I'll swatch are going forward round for
spot to fight from.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
That was him talking to his former trainer Ben Davidson.
I did not think Tyson Fury was as close in
the second fight as he was in the first. Even
after getting rocked in the first fight, I still thought
he was closer in that one. So I guess in
my mind, just my opinion. I don't know what would
be different this time around. Tyson seems to think that
he was robbed in the second fight and that if
he did it in England it would be different. I
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don't know if that's the case, and and even if
it is the case, Turkey alas Shaik is saying that
I have his word to have him in Riodd's season
in twenty twenty six. Now again, I could just be
misreading that as a re ODD season branded event taking
place in England, but that seems to me like Turkey
Alla Shak wants to fight back in Saudi Arabia. So
I don't know what would be different the third time around,
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other than the fact that Tyson may train a little
differently and it may be tough to beat a guy
three times point is I just I don't know. Doesn't
seem like the fight that makes the most sense. And
Turkey alas Shak is known so far from making the
fights we want to see within his power right, he
has made the Bivol better BEV one and two. He
has made Tyson fury USI He's made big fight after
(05:24):
a big fight. So I just don't know if this
is a little bit of misdirection from Turkey, or maybe
it is just just right on the nose. But regardless,
I think the fight that I would want to see more,
to be honest, is Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua. But again,
you also have to give Tyson a reason to come
out of retirement. Whether people want to see the third
fight or not, Tyson surely wants to have a third
(05:44):
shot at the belt.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I would think.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
I think it probably means more to him than fighting
Anthony Joshua for no belt. But this is what Tyson
Fury had to say regarding his comeback and why he
wants to come back to boxing.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I'm out fate, I wont everything I've got to do.
I said fight was a clear fucking victory for the
Gypsy King.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Incorrect.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
I don't know where he he comes up with this ideas.
And you could say this's a close fight. You can
say that Tyson Fury fought well up until the fifth round,
maybe into the sixth and seventh, but as we got
into the seven through twelve rounds, this was completely one
sided to Alexander Usik and quite frankly, if you look
(06:28):
back on the fight and a no coffee box doesn't
tell the entirety of the story. But if you just
look back at punches thrown versus punches landed in this fight,
Ur he threw more, landed less, Usik threw less, landed more,
and he threw less while landing more round by round,
And you can see his punch stats be deadly accurate
from rounds pretty much six on seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve.
(06:51):
He's throwing fifty percent damn near in eight through twelve,
and it's not just jabs or light punches. Over half
of his punches were power punches landed flush. So I
just I don't see where Fury gets this idea that
he clearly won the second fight. He was clearly, in
my mind, out boxed in the second fight, more so
than even in the first. You could have the argument
for the first fight potentially going to Fury, and that
(07:13):
would be more believable than him winning the second fight.
So I don't know where he's deluded himself into thing.
And this was robbed from him, but point blank, period,
he lost the second fight.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Anyone in boxing could see that.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
A complete load of dog shit, Yeah, political, whatever you.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Want to call it. And Usk's very experienced, by.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
The way, we can't forget that in the ring, Tyson
Fury said the reason, or at least paraphrased to say,
the reason that Usik won the second fight was because
there was a war going on in the Ukraine and
they wanted to give him the win. That's the level
of delusion we're talking about with Tyson Fury right now.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Again, he's coming off for two fights from me, which
is debatable whether he won him or not, which he
didn't win him, but he got the decision, which.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Is all that matters.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
If I was going to come back, I'd come back
for Ushaki, well, I want a fair result in Englands.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Would he be the only fighter that you've come back
for one on one? Immediately? I'd be the most fight
I want. I won't want to fair fight. I don't
want any favors. I want a fair fight, a fair assault,
which I believe and I know I didn't that second fight.
I fucking thought I want it by five rounds. I've
watched it.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Tyson Fury thinks he won the second fight.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
By five round which rounds genuinely like you, how you
even argue that he won it by five rounds? There's
no logical argument for that. I mean, again, it's Tyson Fury.
He's talking out of his ass. But the other thing too,
is like Turkey Alla Shaik is clearly saying he wants
Tyson to go rabbit hunting.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
He is saying we are going rabbit hunting.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Is in Turkey and Tyson, And let's not forget Turkey
has been on the side of Tyson Fury when it
comes to most of the fights, like he actively is
like Tyson is gonna beat Francis and Gan who I'm sorry,
Tyson gonna be Usik, I'm sorry. And Tyson sitting here
talking about politicalist political that that has no.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Effect on him winning or losing.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Clearly, if Turkey wanted him to beat Usik and Husak
beat him twice, then has nothing to do with any
political anything.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I don't know what he's.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Talking about there, but yeah, he did not win the
second fight at all, and let alone by five rounds.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Literally chiulndred and fifty times on each.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Way, I have two hundred and fifty times he rewatched
it two hundred and fifty times.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Bullshit, say that's away for him to win, but I
know you can. They can do what they want. If
they say it's fucking Tuesday, it's Tuesday. I don't make
excuses on with.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
The next thing.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I don't make excuses except the reason that Usik won
is because there was a war going on in Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Never forget it.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
So anyway, here is more of Tyson talking about why
he would want to fight Usik right now.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Usak because I want the revenge in England. That's all
I want.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I want my fair show, and I don't believe I've
got a fair shout the last two times. So I
don't know what I'm gonna have to do because I
can't maybe go to this is shuit.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Well yeah, not some one. I won't if I don't
get that that it would be Joshua the biggest.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Britch Smike would bright, Yes, it would.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
All records would sell out Ado in an hour.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Yep, it's a fight that I think can can happen
for sure if I decided to come.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Back, if I did come back, hy pathetically.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Speaking, that's the one man, that is the one, and
he says the reason why that's the one obviously personally
to Tyson, it means more to grab the belts off
oohsick it means more to right the two losses, the
only two losses of his career. It means more for that,
and I get it. But one hundred thousand people the fight,
the fans, and especially the UK fans, because let's be honest,
(10:42):
right now, boxing is white hot in the UK, is
more popular. It has got bigger stars right now in
the UK than the US for the most part, outside
of a couple of names. I can run through and
you guys would argue in the comments, but the point.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Is he's right. They would sell out Whimley.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
This would be one of, if not the biggest fight
in British boxing history.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
It just makes all the sense in the world.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Again, personally, I get it for Tyson it's the second option,
but for the fans, for the sport, for the right
matchups and where both guys are in their careers, this
is the best matchup. This is the only matchup that
makes sense for both guys right now, coming off the
losses they've come off of the guys that beat them.
Fighting for the bell and again, I know this is
talking about a year from now, but still, for every
(11:25):
reason he listed.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
There and he's right, this fight needs to happen.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
It would be more of a travesty to the sport
if we don't get Tyson and aj rather than us
getting the trilogy between Tyson and Usik by far, point
blank period. And that should be the only reason, that's
the only argument that I should have to make as
to why that fight should happen, because if we don't
get it, it will be one of the greatest fights
we never got. If we don't get Tyson, Fury and
(11:51):
Usik for the third time, does it really matter? And
I think that's probably all I need.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
To say about this.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
They're talking about riat season twenty twenty six. It makes
all the sense in the world to do it at Wimbley.
If they could book it one hundred thousand people would
definitely sell out. Whatever the number is at Wimley ninety thousand.
I've heard before one hundred thousand. But this one's a
grudge match. It doesn't even have to be for the
best British boxer ever, because that's not the case. I
think that title goes to Lennox Lewis. But for the
modern era, this is one of those fights that if
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we don't get it will be a damn shame and
it won't have that punctuation mark on either guy's career
that it really should have, right, either guy retiring before
we get that would be a disappointment, I think, and
even to them to some degree. Right they've all made
millions of dollars, they all have all the money in
the world, but if they still have that fire about fighting,
you know that both of them deep down inside, I've
(12:39):
always looked across the island and said I could beat
that guy. I'm really the face of British boxing, and
now both guys have an opportunity to prove. I think
Anthony Joshua has done a lot more to keep his
fan base strong and come back from adversity over the years,
whereas Tyson Fury has a strong fan base. Don't get
me wrong, but sometimes the way he acts and kind
of talks, he kind of fluctuates back and forth with him. Regardless,
(13:00):
they both have massive fan bases, both of Harry Bridge
boxing at points in their career, and both have been
the face of British boxing. So I think it's just
now time to settle. And then Tyson Fury also says this.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
And I to box, do you j FO you want
on the glove on they won side he beat down. Well, listen,
I wish you mud.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Can he fight against in sec what styles may fight
on his style on my style, don't tell.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
I mean, that's great to say it all, but it's
been a while since Tyson Fury had one of those
you're not gonna lay a glove on me performances, Guys
that were both good technically and weren't good technically. Everybody
laid a glove on him since the Deontay Wilder fight.
Deontay knocked him down and he rose up like the undertaker.
Ranci Singhanu, who had never had a boxing match before,
(13:44):
hit him with a left hook and knocked him down.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Who sick is touched in with the left hand and
wobbled him damn near sent him to the floor. I
don't know if I believe anymore.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
That Tyson Fury is as slick as potentially he was
early in his career. That the guy that outboxed Vladimir Klitschko.
I don't know if that guy is still in there,
so I don't. I mean, again, that matchup cool, but again,
I'm just gonna put it out there. I think it
would mean more if Tyson beats Anthony Joshua and then
or Anthony Joshua beat Tyson regardless the winner either fought Usick,
(14:14):
if he beats Daniel dubast or in some fashion, there's
some rematches that happen.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Either way, it's a clear choice. From now.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Again, my opinion means nothing when it comes to what
actually will happen.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Am I glad that Tyson is talking about returning.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yeah, absolutely, because when he's into sport it's better than
when he's not. I mean, that's just it's another massive
heavyweight name. Yes, it comes with some all right, We're
gonna have to hear Tyson beloviate and sometimes downright lie
about things that have happened to him and talk some
absolute bollocks here and there. But eventually he will fight,
and when he fights, he is entertaining to watch. He's
(14:48):
one of the best fighters at heavyweight in the world.
So yes, of course the sport is better with him
in it. I just think the best fight, I think,
the most satisfying. I think the one the sport needs
the most, and the one that will live on through
the history books regardless of who wins or loses, is
Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua that's the fight I think needs
to happen.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I hope that that's the fight that does happen.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
And I'm not so sure that this tweet from Turkey
Allas Shake and the Ring magazine is not more window dressing.
Maybe I'm wrong, but to be so blunt about having
him just come back and fight Alexander Usik, I think
there may be a little bit more going on, especially
hearing people like Eddie Hearn talking about how at all
points Turkey Allas Shake wants to make the biggest fights
possible for the fans, for the sport. I think everybody
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in that circle knows, and really all over the world
knows that at heavyweight there's no bigger fight, even for
a world title. Right now, I'm gonna put my name
on that one. I'm gonna stamp that. I don't think
there's a bigger fight at heavyweight world title included or
not in Tyson Fury in Anthony Joshua.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
That's the fight that needs to be made.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
You disagree, let me know in the comments below, or
if you agree, let me know regardless what happens next
for Tyson Fury, He's apparently out of retirement and back
into boxing. I don't have those answers. I know what
I want, but I don't have those answers, So I
guess find out
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