THE W.A.D.E. Concept - WEEK IN REVIEW - ANDREW TATE AND JAKE PAUL RESPOND!! INOUE DOMINATES HIS OPPONENT... - The W.A.D.E. Concept with Wade Plemons

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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with today's video being a look at the response from
Andrew Tait to his loss to Chase de Moore over
the weekend. It was a massive upset in the crossover
boxing scene, Andrew Tait coming back to boxing and taking
on Chase to Moore, and in fact that a lot
of people thought should have gone one way, myself included.

(00:45):
I thought he was going to show the levels of
combat sports expertise that we just didn't get. It was
not a great performance, it wasn't a great fight, but
Chase did what Chase does. He neutralized the cobra. He
shut down everything Andrew wanted to do. He shut down
in and Drew Tait after a couple of rounds and
Tait himself will admit he didn't have a great performance,

(01:05):
and at least he was admitting that. But then I'm
starting to see Tate try to rationalize and justify and
potentially full on make excuses.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
For this loss, and I can't have that.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
There has to be a line of ownership and responsibility
from Tate here. So I hope in this response video
to him losing, we get a lot of that and
not a lot of the other stuff. Let's take a
look at this. Andrew Tait responds to one of the
biggest upsets in crossover boxing history, a shocking loss, a breakdown.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Let's go.

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Speaker 2 (03:21):
And now let's get back into the breakdown.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
I didn't have a Christmas or a New Year planned.
I didn't have anything in my head after this fight.
My life ended on December twentieth, and now my life
has begun again. It's a unique position to be in.
People are saying, oh, what about Christmas. I'm like, oh, yeah, Christmas.
I forgot about Christmas, and I forgot about New Year.

(03:47):
I forgot about everything. I only had one singular focus.
I was just worried about this fight.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
I mean, yeah, that's that's a normal thing for you know,
fight preparation and you know, putting your focus on it.
Every fighter has to go through something like this. It's
called sacrifice. This is something every single combat sports athlete
has to do to prepare for a fight. And you know,
Andrew obviously took this fight seriously clearly. I think that's
what's making this loss harder for him to swallow, is
the fact that he took it so seriously and he

(04:12):
was so convinced he was about to beat up Chase
the more. But I mean, just to my personal experience,
last year, I fought on January eighteenth. I didn't have
a Christmas. We trained right through Christmas. I didn't have
a New Year's I didn't do any of that. I
came back home on like January twentieth or twenty first
and opened my presence here in California because I was
out in Arizona doing training. This is I mean again,

(04:34):
I am not a fighter. I fought once, but sacrifice,
which Andrew knows, is a part of the fight game.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Let me make something very fucking clear to you from
the beginning. Uh oh, if you are worried about other
people's opinion of you, they already own you. They already
control you. If you are worried about what they are
going to say or what they think about.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
You, even if you need praise.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
They own you. If you sit and say I'm gonna
try this thing, and I know I'll succeed and everybody
is going to say good things about me. So to
make sure that happens, I'm gonna cheat or I'm gonna
be underhanded. I'm gonna do some sneaky shit because I
need these people to say good things about me. They

(05:22):
already fucking own you.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
What if you do it and say I don't want
to cheat, but I'm still gonna do it so that
I get a lot of praise or that people say
nice things about me.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Do they own you then? Or if you do it
by the board.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
And also Andrew, he seems like he's going down this
list of like talking about how he doesn't need the
approval or he doesn't care about what people think.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
And I'm just gonna call bullshit.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
I think he's deeply, deeply insecure about this fight in
the way it went, as much as he's about to
tell you his like people's opinions of him don't matter.
He spent the last two days since he lost putting
out soliloquies and diatribes on Twitter addressing what people are saying.
You see him since the loss. Most men have never
felt the sting of defeat because most men have never
tried right. This is clearly a response to everybody online

(06:08):
laughing at him, and then him retweeting what his brother said.
He's not the same fighter conquering kickboxing and a younger man.
It's not the critic who counts, not the man who
points out the strong man that stumbles, or where the
doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit
belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.
This is the man in the arena stuff like, again,
nothing wrong with addressing people, but don't act like it's

(06:29):
not bothering you when you're putting out these long tweets
retweeting a bunch of stuff about you, It clearly bothers you.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
Night.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Look at his ninety nine percent of forty year old
men with seven hundred million dollars sit around with words.
What a way to start the sentence off. I could
have done the same and talk shit on the internet
and took no risk and just lived easy. In my heart,
I knew I'm too old. So now we'll get into
these further. But it's like you're seeing the shift, the
narrative shift of how this loss came about. Right now,

(06:56):
it's he knew he was too old, and he knew
he'd been out too long. That that why I had
to do it, to face fear.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
I can't live scared. I have to know I faced it.
I lost. Varren Square Chases the true champion, a warrior.
I'm proud of him. He deserves a belt.

Speaker 5 (07:07):
Right.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
You can't say that after you're like, well, I.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Was too old and I knew I was too old,
so I knew I was gonna lose, but I did
it anyway, Like, no, you didn't.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
You thought you were gonna win. You thought.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
I bet Andrew thought he was gonna knock Chase out
in the first round. I'd be willing to bet that
if I spoke to the people in his camp just
prior to the fight, not Andrew, because Andrew would have said, ah,
you know, you don't know what happens. And I bet
they believe they were gonna walk right through Chase and
it didn't happen.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
I don't care if people say good things about me
or bad things about me mm hmm, because those people
don't own me, and they don't decide my worth, and
they don't get to decide how I live my life
because they sit there and write comments What kind of
bitch would I be as a man if I sit
at home and think, you know what, maybe I should
take this fight. Yes, it's a big risk. Yes he's

(07:50):
younger than me. Yes he's more active than me. Yes
he's heavier than me. Yes he's taller than me. Yes,
I might lose. And if I lose, people in the
inner and that will make fun of me. So I'm
not gonna do the fight. Are these people my fucking boss?

Speaker 2 (08:06):
But again, he's not like anybody.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Like everybody that's done influencer boxing or crossover boxing has
had to ask themselves this question. Ks I had to
ask himself that question. Jake had asked.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Himself that question.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Logan's kind of been bigger than everybody else, But Logan's
had to ask himself questions about risk.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
And I mean, again, just name the GiB.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Like everybody that stepped in and has had a non
favorable matchup has had to ask himselves that question.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Like I felt I.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Was better than Mosiah when we fought, but he had
one more fight than I did. He was bigger than
I was, he was stronger than I was, he was
younger than I was.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
I think we might have been the same height.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
But these are questions and I had a bit of
a reputation, so if I lost, I was gonna get
clowned and I knew that. Now again, my cloud level
versus Andrew Tate's clout level not the same.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
But I guess my point is everybody has to answer
that question. This is not something that is special to Andrew.
The only thing maybe different is that he is one
of the most popular or at least viewed people on
the Internet. But he also had a massive, massive experience
edge on Chase in terms of just training combat sports.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
And his hands. And yes, he took a risk, but
it just again, it just didn't work out.

Speaker 6 (09:14):
Just leave it at that.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
It's constant like referring to the advantages Chase had without
referring to the ones you had. It's not a good look.
It makes it it seems like you fought Anthony Joshua
and that's not who you fought. No offense to Chase.
He is the Misfits champ, but that's not who you fought.
You took that fight, yes, because you wanted the Misfits
bell and you wanted to beat the heavyweight champ, but
you knew the risk.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Here's what it is.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
I went out on my shield like a man, and
I'll do it again. Chase beat me.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
But he didn't instill fear in my heart. I'm not
afraid of fighting. I'm not afraid of him. He just
beat me. I don't even know rematch.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
That's I mean.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
The way he's talking, I'm hearing remat he beat me.
He didn't put fear in my heart though, I'm not
afraid of him. I'm not afraid of fighting. I'll do
it again. I would love to see a rematch.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
If Tate was.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Gonna fight, I almost think he needs for it to
be a rematch, because if you're entertating, you changed the
variables of the fight and you win, it won't mean
as much to me and the fans, and I think,
and just the look the perspective of the fight. You
can't fight someone out that's shorter, smaller, less experience than
even Chase and then pull the win out and act

(10:21):
like that was your get back.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
You got to go and rematch the man if you
really do.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
If that's what he's he could just be referring to
the fact that he's not afraid of nothing or whatever.
But if he really wants to come back and do
this again, it has to be, in my opinion, has
to be against Chase.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
You got to get that one back.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
I've had not yet had time to process why he
beat me. I got tired after the second round. Yeah,
and I don't know why the first and second round
he couldn't touch me. If I didn't get tired, I
would have won. I'm a better boxer, but I did
get tired. Maybe it's ring rust, maybe I'm too old,

(10:57):
maybe he's too heavy, and he kept leaning on me.
I don't know why, but he beat me. And let
me make something else very.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Clear to you, So before we get into that, I
hate the what IF's in the fight game. Andrew does
this thing here where in one hand he's like, I
got beat he beat me, and that's genuine, that's correct.
He lost, And if he would have just left it
at that, I don't know why I beat me, but
he beat me.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
He was the better man that night.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
I need to go back and watch the tape, and
if I ever do come back, I need to work
on some things that I did wrong that I would accept.
But when he goes into this, I got tired, which
he did. I called it sitting there. I wish I
was on commentary during this fight because I watched him
go back to his corner, And something I like to
do on the commentary desk is sit there and look
into corners because I think it tells so much more

(11:45):
of the story sometimes.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Than even what we've just seen. Andrew's right. He won
the first two rounds.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
He was jabbing Chase to the body, he was pressuring him,
He's putting Chase on the back foot. But then I
watched him walk back to his corner at the end
of the second round and.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
He was gassed. It was bad.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
So when he said, I don't know why I lost,
I don't know why I got tired. And if I
didn't get tired, I would have won. I was the
better boxer. You can't play that game right, You can't
in defeat. You cannot do that because there are variables
out of Andrew Tate's control. For example, I said, if
Chase would have jabbed Andrew taitmore, he probably could have
and would have stopped him. And I say that because

(12:20):
that's something Chase could control. Chase is it in jab
He threw right hands damn near exclusively the entire fight.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Chase doesn't jab a lot.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
He uses his lead hand to kind of frame off
and push you away and keep his head away from
your punches.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
But he doesn't jab a lot.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
And I think if he'd add that to his game more,
he'd be starts him motherfuckers.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
But Andrew Tate's gas tank.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
There wasn't much in terms of the fight itself he
could have done differently to save himself at that point,
because he's right, he's thirty nine, he's out for a
long time ring Russ potentially, and also Chase being a
bigger guy.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
This was a massive factor in the fight.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
But it's again something that Andrew signed up for. He
told Chase throughout the entire build up that Chase needed
to stop complaining about the weight. And here's Andrew complaining
about the weight. Decided to fight a bigger man. It
was gonna look better for your resume. This is what
you wanted.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Andrew could have come in and fought someone smaller.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
He chose this, and Chase did have to make two
hundred pounds after the lowest Chase went before this fight
was two hundred and twenty pounds. Chase fought Kels at
two hundred and forty pounds and they got him down
to two hundred in a heavyweight fight, and then he
had a rehydration clause of twelve pounds on fight day
that he had to make and Chase did that shit
like a fucking gangster. That is sacrifice, dude, That right there.

(13:27):
Chase didn't have seven hundred million in the bank. Chase
fought for five thousand here, five thousand there. Chase has
said yes to fights he probably shouldn't have even been in,
and he lost a ton of times. Chase knows about
failure too on a big stage. I respect the fuck
the gangster out of Chase for saying yes to everything.
Being in Dubai, making the weight well. People may not
know this, and Chase, maybe you'll never say it, but

(13:48):
I heard he was having trouble standing up after weighing in,
that he was about to pass out or maybe even
did pass out.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
And still made that fight. Dude, gangster.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
But I guess my major point is there are no
ifs in the fight game. When you lose, right, you
can always play the if game, but the reality is
you got tired, probably because of the habits in your
lifestyle for ten plus years, probably because whatever you did
in training camp, and I'm not going to take away
from what Tate did, seemed like he trained hard, but
maybe it wasn't the right type of training.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Maybe he overtrained. Maybe he didn't prepare for.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
The fact that Chase was going to be a big,
strong guy and he was going to be able to
lean on him, which was I thought the most obvious
thing you should prepare for. If you think going into
a fight with Chase to Moore, if you watch his fights,
it's going to be a clean boxing match and he's
not going to clench you, and.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
That's a failure of preparation on your.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Part, and you have no one to blame but yourself.
If you're asking the questions of why did I guess,
it looked pretty clear. Tate threw a lot of punches,
came forward, was very aggressive through with force, and do
a lot of touching, but through a lot of stuff
with power, got tied up, had to deal with Chase's clinch,
had to deal with his size and frame and when
he wasn't landing and getting Chase out of there, because
Chase is a big, tall, awkward guy and Tate was

(14:53):
throwing around the guard, which I think would have been
better to throw through the guard. The straight punches to
get to Chase's chin or to get to his body
in his chin versus trying to come around. You take
away your distance doing that. When those things didn't happen,
the sting fell off his punch, he lost his legs,
and Chase took advantage. It wasn't a good fight. It
was a very muddy, ugly fight, and Chase does that
to a lot of people. Tate wasn't prepared for. So

(15:14):
whatever excuses are going to come out here and the
idea of if he was in better shape he would
have won. There's a reason you gased. Whether it was
your preparation, whether it was your game plan, whether it
was how Chase neutralize what you do you put them
in a ring. Ten times out of ten, those same
variables are going to come up. What could Tait realistically
have done differently outside him not Chase out in the
first round before he gets tired.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
That fight goes six rounds. Tate was gonna get tired.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
This is why I said, I think he needs to
change some things in his camp. Clearly, whatever they were
doing to get him prepared cardio wise was not enough
or wasn't the right way to do it. He clearly
was not ready for that six round fight. I think,
and again I've said this, I think genuinely Tate thought
he was going to knock Chase out in the first
two rounds.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
It didn't even cross their mind.

Speaker 6 (15:54):
This could go to decision.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
That's what I think.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
And let me make something else very clear to you.
I have complete respect for Chase de Moore, complete respect
for him because I know the pressure he must have
been under to take this fight. It was an opportunity
for him, yes, and it was a risk for me.
But we had pressure on different sides, both sides of

(16:18):
the coin. We had pressure in different directions. It would
have been very difficult for him mentally, just like it
was very difficult for me mentally, and for him to
turn off on the day and get it done. Complete
respect to him. Let me give you some life advice.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
And also, you know, again, I just want to make
sure since Andrew is offering the qualifiers that he had
in defeat, Chase was bigger, stronger, younger. Andrew Tate had
eighty fights to his name. He says he was a
four time world champion in kickboxing. I know kickboxing is
not boxing, but he himself calls himself the better boxer,
not two centeness earlier. Chase had to lose upwards of
thirty pounds to even make this fight happen, and then

(16:50):
had to keep the weight off until the next day
up to two twelve, drained himself down all the way
from his natural weight in a heavyweight matchup, by the way,
where guys like Deontay Wilder fought Tyson Fury when Wilder
was like two twenty and Fury was like two seventy.
Chase had to fight a lot of demons to get
there as well, and he had a lot of qualifiers too.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Chase deserves this victory. He deserves the fame, he deserves
the happiness, he deserves the money, He deserves the credit.
He earned it, and I'm not gonna take that away
from him with excuses talking about rematches, making up bullshit
about how he grabbed me some crap.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
He won and he de he just did that a
second ago though you just did that. He just did
that though, like he didn't he not just hear himself
like five minutes ago saying you know, I'm not on
fear chase, I do it again, or I'll do it again,
and then saying I don't know why I got tired.
Maybe it was because he was bigger than me. Maybe
it was because he grabbed me or he clinched me.

(17:48):
I'm not sure why.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Maybe I was out of the ring too long, maybe
I'm too old.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Those are the excuses, and then saying if I didn't
get tired, I would have won. I was better than
he was. You offered up excuses, you gave qualifiers, and
you made up a reason why you should have and
would have one, but did it, and then said I'm
not gonna make excuses. It's weird how he kind of
just like flip flops it because I do.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
I agree with him.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
He shouldn't do any of those things right now. He
should just give chases respect and did.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
If I want to get spiritual.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
About all of this, oh jeez, I think we need that.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
You have to understand that there are forces larger than
us people. Oh no, that exists. And I said that
the answer was already written. Why did I get tired?
I don't know, it doesn't make sense.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
The only more excuses though, here we go.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Hey, they's not an excuse maker, So surely he's not
gonna go back to the well.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Right.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
The thing that makes sense is that I was not
supposed to win. Why was I not supposed to win?
Is the world a better place now that I've lost?

Speaker 1 (18:50):
There's no way he's about to blame the spirits of
the world or or a fucking ancestral plane or God
himself for losing. Chase to more, there's no way he's
gonna do That's you. There's no way that you can
do that. And I know fighters that say, you know,
it's God's plan. Whatever happens is his plan, and I
have no control over it. Sure, that's that's great if

(19:13):
you believe that, and you're very spiritual as a person, whatever.
But if you went into the fight thinking God wants
me to lose, you wouldn't fucking fight. Okay, No one
goes into the fight thinking, ah, the plan is for
me to lose. They want you go in to win.
So when you come out and you don't win, don't
get to blame the spiritual forces of the world. That's

(19:34):
fucking bullshit.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Maybe the win means more to Chase than it would
mean to me. Maybe Chase couldn't handle the loss.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Oh my god, stop that right now, you stop this bullshit.
Don't act like you're some sort of fucking philosophical genius.
That's like, well, actually, this is all meant to be
this way. This is like watching one of those movies
where you go throughout the entire movie thinking it's real
and at the end they're like, and then the guy

(20:05):
woke up. It was all a simulation, and you get
fucking pissed because the story meant nothing, the movie did nothing,
and it was all bullshit because at the end of
the whole thing, the director, the creator, the scriptwriter got
lazy and couldn't find a way out of some bullshit movies,
so he just said and it was a dream. At
the end, Tate is doing that. Tate is telling you
that none of it mattered because God actually cares so

(20:26):
much about Andrew Tate winning and losing a boxing match
or Chase winning and losing, that he chose Chase to
win because Chase couldn't handle the loss. No, maybe Chase
wanted it more. Maybe that's why he pulled through when
it got ugly and Tate was gassing, And by the way,
Chase wasn't a spry chicken.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
He was not fresh in there either. He was gassing.
But in those moments he pushed forward. In those moments,
he came with offense and he put it on tape.
That's because he wanted it more, not because God wanted
it more. Stop that.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Maybe God decided, you know what, Chase has been through
enough with mocking and things on the internet. Chase doesn't
need the loss right now. Andrew can handle the loss better.
Maybe God decided.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
You are out of your fucking mind. Maybe God said
Andrew can handle the loss better, so I'll give him
the loss. No, maybe Chase wanted to win more than
you did.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Maybe if I won, we would have went out and
celebrated that night, and Tristan would have smoked a bunch
of cigars, and maybe he would have died one minute earlier.
And maybe I get an extra minute with my brother
because I lost. And if that's the case, then I'm
glad I lost. You have to have faith in a
higher power.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
What is he even saying, dude, there's.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
A lesson in all of this, and I don't need
to know exactly what it is. If God decides that
for some reason, he's gonna instantly gass me when I
was in perfect physical condition.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
He's gotta be troll that I lose. He's gotta be trolling.
He has to be trolling, dude, he has to be
And this is I listen.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
I know Luke Warnett is a former UFC fighter. It's
not within me to question fighters in their preparation. But this,
this is starting to sound like Andrew truly believed he
was in perfect physical condition that he could not have
gassed at all. And that would lead me to believe
that there was a lot of yes men and Andrew
Tates camp. There's a lot of people telling him what
he wanted to hear, and you know, sparring him in
a certain way and not putting him through the same

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type of fire that he was going to see against Chase.
And it seems like they underestimated Chase as much. They're
not saying it, it seems like they did because what he's
saying either there's a lot of yes men in his
camp that didn't test him the way he needed to
be for this fight. And he's baffled as to why
he gasped when the reality is his legs went, his
arms went because there was a lot of clenching. Chase
was bigger than him and take through a lot of

(22:32):
power punches. Then he struggled to land him. He didn't
see a lot of that in camp. Clearly made it
an ugly fight. Chase as a strong athlete, and he
kind of bullied Andrew. He didn't get bullied in camp,
or he's trolling, and I don't know which one it is.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
And I took this fight knowing it was a risk. Guys,
I could have fought ten can. I could have fought
an idiot and ever when say top gu, top G,
top G. I could have fought some nobody and be
up some nobody. But what's the point in that?

Speaker 1 (22:59):
Where is called chasing nobody and an idiot? Before they vot?
I mean again, it just writes them.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
So it's the lesson in that for me? Where's the
lesson in that for you? I put it on the line.
I get in the arena. Everyone with an opinion is
on the sidelines. Imagine living a life where you're so
afraid of loss that you never get to win. You
sit in the corner as a coward, write in Twitter
comments like people who take risks you will not take.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
But he don't care about it, y'all.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
You don't care.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
If he would have come on here and been like,
you know what, I'm fucking pissed off at people talking shit,
then I would respect this a lot more. You can't
come on here and talk about, oh, I don't care
about what people gotta say, and then go on a
diatribe about what people got to say.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Dude, you can't.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
Napoleon is in the history books. He lost battles, he
lost to chase him one and you have to know that,
and you accept that when you agree to take the
risk in the first place. Fact and that is the
barrier that prevents most people from getting anywhere. The what
if I lose? I just lost in front of the world,

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got paid twenty fucking million fucking dollars.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
I'm fine, and immediately, dude, immediately, I lost in front
of the world. And instead of being like boom in
the video, I'll move on, I'll get better, I'll come
back stronger. He's like, by the way, though, got paid
more than you ever will. I don't care about what
you think, though, Oh my god, I don't know why
I found that twenty million dollars.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
It's a lot, dude, of this crazy money.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Shout out to him, dude, life changing for most of us,
Probably not for Andrew Tate. I'm still waiting on what
would have happened should he have won to change his life,
because that's what he said. But how do you come
back from the loss? So what you keep trying to
tell us and then we don't hear how.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
And one of the thoughts I've been having these last
couple of days is if I knew I was gonna lose,
what I've still fought? And the answer is yes. In fact,
if I knew I was gonna lose, it would have
even been more important than I fought, because if I

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were to not fight just because I'd lose, then I'd
really be a coward. And I said before the fight,
I'm here to fight. I don't think about winning lose.
I'm here to fight. And I meant it. If a
genie came to me and said, I've seen the future,
you lose this fight, Andrew, you're still gonna do it?
I said, now I have to.

Speaker 6 (25:16):
Now I have to.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
He did not think for a second he was gonna
lose that fight. No one in his camp thought for
a second he was going to lose that fight. They
thought they were gonna go out and rock chase his
shit and get an even bigger fight after.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
And again, there's nothing wrong with thinking that.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
That's confidence, that's swagger, that is, you know, being the
top g whatever.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
But he hit't more.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Count that way, dog, and that's okay. But this revisionist
history is insane. Dude, we were all there, we all
saw it. Can't givince this otherwise.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
I remember winning my first role title. I was twenty
three years old. I was Wolverine. I could heal in
a day things that now take a week. I'm not
so old, I'm thirty nine. But staying active till thirty
nine is very different than coming out of a ten
year retirement at thirty nine.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Wasn't it five years?

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Though?

Speaker 2 (25:58):
I did need just have a fight.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
See this is what I mean. Andrew Tay said he
had come out of a ten year retirement. He fought
three times in twenty twenty and still that's five years
away from the game. But like, why do we keep
making up that he was ten years retired? Those fights
not count because they don't fit the same narrative, Like
it's on his box wreck or is his kickbox wreck
or whatever you want to say on his on his topology,

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it's there, did those fights not happen? But are those
made up? I don't understand. Did he not train for
those fights?

Speaker 3 (26:26):
If all was twenty three? Would I beat Chase? Of course?

Speaker 2 (26:31):
If I What are we doing here we go again, dude?

Speaker 1 (26:35):
If I was this age, if I had this, if
it was this, that's not reality. Stop it stop and
people will be like, yeah, yeah, he would have.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
And maybe, but who gives a shit.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
There's no point to be made in having these little
pot shots where it's like, if I had this, I
would have beat him if I was better and I
was this. That makes the stuff that he said about
Chase nonsense. It makes it unusable, It makes it fake,
It makes it phony because in one breath you say, oh,
you know, give respect to Chase. He wanted he did
what he's supposed to do, And in this next breath
you're talking about ways that you should have one could

(27:06):
have one O God wanted you to lose because you
can handle it better. How if you were twenty three
years old, you would have beat Chase. How you were
the better boxer than Chase, How he was bigger, and stronger,
and how he was younger, and how you're a lion,
but the lion's got soft teeth and arthritis or some
shit like, does no one else see this manipulation at
the highest order, we're seeing, dude, come.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
On after the fight, Chase that I helped him mentally.
If you judge a teacher by the quality of his students,
the fact I managed to instill and help him enough
with his mindset so that he could beat even me
makes me proud of him and proud of myself. It's

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like Master Splinter teaching the Ninja turtle so well that
he could beat him.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Like Chase did come out and say that Tate saved
his life and that Chase was gonna commit suicide, which
is no laughing matter, Like that's soap, so bad that
Chase got solow and it was apparently over the fight
he had on Misfits, where you know, people clowned him
to death. And it really is a nice sentiment that
Chase did learn a lot from Andrew Tate. And listen,
one of the things that Tate has been credited with
is his ability to motivate young men. But don't again,

(28:15):
let's let's have the context of what happened in the fight.
Andrew Tate did not teach Chase the Moore how to fight.
He might have taught him mentally how to overcome things
and how to be a strong person and how to
when the going gets tough keep moving forward. But Chase
beat Andrew Tate not only because of those things, but
also because Chase outworked him in the fight. Chase did
things to neutralize Andrew Tate as a fighter that Tate

(28:37):
had nothing to do with. So this isn't like Master
Splinter teaching the Ninja Turtles fight moves and then them
using them on Master Splinter. This is Tate encouraging a
young man and Chase more to not listen to people
online or like be self motivated. For Chase to go
on the run and build his confidence back and ultimately
get a chance to fight Tait. That's it, but like
he didn't teach him anything about fighting.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
Top g. Everyone says to me, is you helped with
my mindset? You helped me. That's what I am about.
That's what all of this is about. Perhaps that's why
God made me lose so that I had things to
say on today's emergency meeting.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Besides, he did it again, Dude, shut out, That's why
God made me lose.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
You're not disrespectful. That is to Chase. Dude, it's so
disrespectful to Chase.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
The guy he keeps saying, I'm not gonna disrespect to
say the only way that he could have beat me
is if God the Almighty, being the omni present creator
of the universe, decided I had to lose.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
And that's the only way. Chase one.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
That's so unbelievably disrespectful and disagenuous, Like, come on, dude,
you can't. He has to be trolling. This has to
be a character thing. This has to be a top
G thing. And I'm getting rage bated because there's no
way he genuinely believes the only reason he lost because
God the Creator decided. Here's where I take all of
your energy. Now fuck out of here.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
Tristan said to me, what happened. That's that I got tired.
I don't know why. Said you deserve that whin. You've
been through so much. You deserve that. I know, he
goes you trained so hard, you're in fantastic shapeist that
I know. I just got tired. If I didn't get tired,
I would beat him. He couldn't hit me in the
first round. He couldn't touch me.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
That's why fights aren't one round though, Andrew, how do
you not know that? Like, yes, he is correct that
in the first round when they were both fresh, Andrew
was winning pretty easily. In the second round, he did
good work, won that round pretty easily. But this is why,
and Chase said this in the press conference, is why
he wanted a ten round fight, twelve round fight. He
knew he had a better gas tank, he knew he
could outlast him. He knew he trained hard. As much
as Chase likes to bullshit and act like he doesn't train,

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the motherfucker gets down, he's a dog. Take clearly thought
he could beat Chase in a couple of rounds. He
thought he was so much better skill wise, that Chase
was going to walk into a punch, he was gonna
pull back on the right hand and drop him. And
that didn't happen. And when it didn't happen, he was
not prepared for the fight that Chase was gonna bring.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
That's what happened. There's no question.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Why he got tired. Chase brought a game plan that
was purposely making it worse for him and harder for
him to land clean punches, to fight a clean fight,
and to operate at range. Chase smothered him, bullied him,
and ended up.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Zapping his end.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Wasn't god Chasta Moore did that as well as Andrew
by firing off a lot of power punches early.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
And he said to me, I'm tired, Andrew, of watching
you find the silver linings in all of the clouds.
You deserve to have a sunny day. You're so good
at finding a silver lining on a cloud. Every time
something bad happens, you find a way to learn something
or make it good. But I'm tired of you having
to suffer all the time.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
This wasn't something bad that happened to Andrew Tate. This
was a fight that he lost, something that he engaged
in and it didn't go his way. This wasn't some
random occurrence that happened to him, and it was a
bad thing that happened.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
He chose to fight and he lost. Dude, what is
this talk about silver linings? Playbook and fucking sunshine on
a rainy day?

Speaker 3 (31:44):
Good lord, and look for the silver linings. Why can't
you just ever have a nice day? Why can't you
ever have a sunny day? And I said, well, we've
had so many fucking clouds that we've called a lot
of fucking silver. So I guess that's what it is.
I'm so good at find at the silver lining. When

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you throw me a cloud, I'll find the silver.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
That mean he's like great at taking second place. I
don't know what the joke is. I don't know if
he even knows he made like a second place joke.
I don't know what that was supposed to mean. Does
that mean he's like read and investing his portfolio into silver?
I heard it's booming right now. I have no idea
what this means.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
Anyone who thinks less of me for doing something I
didn't have to do for money I didn't need, for
taking a risk with my life has a character defect
and a morality defect. And they're not the kind of
people I want to like me.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
But you do want people to like you, don't you?
Even though you said he didn't care, Now listen, I
don't want to see Andrew lose, or I don't want
to see Andrew win. I wanted to see what he
would bring. I was interested.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
I thought he would win but it doesn't matter to
me whether he won or lost, and.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
That wasn't rooting for either way. There's more than just
those people that have a character defect. It's also Andrew.
Andrew definitely when he's talking about how when he's like
flip flopping on every point like a fish out of water.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Man. This entire video has been bizarre, to say the least.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
Anyone I've inspired has made it all worth it. And
if I could go back in time knowing the result,
knowing I would lose in front of the world, I'd
do it.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Again, all right, So there it is.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
That's probably one of the most bizarre videos I think
I've ever seen in terms of someone trying to cope
with the idea that they lost.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
And I mean, I just be honest.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
I didn't hear him take responsibility for one thing in
the fight or in terms of what happened right like,
I didn't hear him do much fight talk at all
other than I was winning. I would have won had
I not got tired. Getting tired was the only reason
I lost. Not really offering anything up to Chase other
than you know, he won respect and all that, But immediately,
like two sentences later, doubling down with well, he only

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won because God wanted me to and God zapped my energy,
and God gave me the loss because I could handle
it and Chase couldn't. And I'm better at losing and
I have a lot of silver and you guys don't
have as much money as I do.

Speaker 6 (34:01):
Suck it.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
I don't care about what you think. But here's the
thirty eight minute video on why I don't care and
talking about.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
What you think like this was pure cope right it was.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
And again, I don't want to see stuff like this.
I don't want to see Andrew who humiliated. I don't
really care for any of the outside of the boxing stuff.
I'm just looking at a man that clearly got broken
by the fact that he did not, in any way,
shape or for him, think he was gonna lose that fight.
And I don't know if it was the Yes Men
camp that put him in a position to not be
ready for what Chase brought. I don't know if his
coaches did the proper.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Research on Chase.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
I don't know if they took him as seriously as
they should have, or if this entire video was a
full on troll. Regardless the reason Andrew Tait lost was
because Chase prepared better for their fight. Chase fought in
the way Andrew wasn't prepared for and took him into
deep water that he wasn't ready to go to. Andrew
thought he could get Chase out of there early. And
when that didn't happen, and when Chase employed different tactics

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than Andrew's used to, and when he used the size
and frame that he had his advantages, then Andrew wasn't
able to get his advantages off.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
The fight turn.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
And this is why we don't fight for two rounds
or even four rounds in championship fights. They went six
and by the second Andrew was done, Chase just had
to take his hand and walk him into the deep
water and that's where he took. God did not make
Andrew Tate lose either. Andrew Tate's lack of preparation or
lack of execution, and Chase's execution and preparation.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Got the job done.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
That was one of the most bizarre videos I've ever seen.
I don't know if Andrew Tate fights again. I would
like to see him fight again, why not? But you
have to do it against Chase da Moore you have
to come back and right the wrongs in the rematch.
Otherwise all these words ring hollow, because all he said
was I'll keep fighting, I'll keep getting up, I'll keep
taking the challenges, the biggest challenges. Can you right the
wrong of that fight and you find what the silver
linings told you about the adjustment.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
You can make? Or is he just gonna go and
do real world stuff and live a happy, healthy life.
That's fine too.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
If he wants to come back and fight, it better
be against Chase Toi Moore, because that's the guy that
beats you, That's the guy that's got your number, That's the.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Guy that's got the belt. That's the guy you called out.
That's what I think. Let me know what you guys
think in the comments below.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Andrew Tate with I want to call this a bizarre,
almost a little bit embarrassing of a response. I'll be honest,
blaming God for your loss is kind of crazy. But
maybe I'm the one taking it the wrong way. You guys,
let me know in the comments what happens next for
Andrew Tate and for Misfits, Chase to more, everybody involved.
Don't have those answers, but I guess.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
We'll find out. All right, folks, we are back on
the Way Concept presented by The Ring Magazine.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
I think this is my second video at home. It's
been a whirlwin. Merry Christmas to everyone. By the time
you see this, it'll be either Christmas Eve or Christmas Day.
And it's been a great year here at the Way Concepts.
I want to thank you all for supporting, for subscribing,
for being here on the channel. And today we're looking
back and kind of forward at Jake Paul's boxing match
with Anthony Joshua and at.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
The rest of his career moving forward.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Because Jake was on Impulsive, as is customary after his fights,
he goes on his brother's podcast. They talk about what happened.
They go back and forth, and then Mike Maylac jumps
in with some weird homoerotic joke. But this one may
be a little different because Jake is coming out of
a fight which he lost and he got knocked out
in or TKO'ed in end required emergency double jaw surgery

(37:04):
because he broke his jaw into places, something that I
did not see when I first recorded my breakdown post fight,
and now is public knowledge. Jake has had double jaw surgery,
four plates, eight screws in his face, and everybody is
just kind of breezing past that, like it's no big deal.
But I'm looking further into this because that's no easy surgery,
and I'm starting to ask the question, is this the

(37:25):
beginning of the end of.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Jake Paul's boxing career.

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Speaker 2 (39:38):
I'll tell you, guys, it look good.

Speaker 6 (39:42):
Hard to believe he had surgery a few hours ago.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Honestly, Hey, Jake, so this is the day of still
or the day after, probably the day after he just
had surgery, but like you could see, his nose is
still bleeding.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Yeah, this guy, dude, psycho, I'm.

Speaker 5 (39:56):
Still after all the fights you've had, in all of
the fact that you what you do, it's it's mind
blowing to me.

Speaker 6 (40:03):
Thank you man.

Speaker 7 (40:03):
Yeah, I mean, it's not that hard to get your ass.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
I don't think you.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
I don't think.

Speaker 6 (40:11):
I don't think it was that bad as.

Speaker 7 (40:13):
I won two rounds and he won too, and then
I got drafted.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
I don't know if Jake won two rounds. Now.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
First off, Jake is being a little bit facetious, like
what does take a lot of bravery to get your
ass beat? This has been a discussion online over the
last couple of days of like what is bravery to
step in? Like?

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Did was Jake brave? Because he stepped in but he
didn't step toe to toe with AJ?

Speaker 1 (40:34):
And he fought a negative fight kind of on the
back foot and letting AJ walk to him and then
kind of just moving around the ropes. I'm not a fighter,
but to me, regardless of the money involved, regardless how
Jake fought, it wasn't a William Skull esque fight because
Jake still turned punches over. Jake still cracked AJ with
some punches, And yes, it wasn't like a Jake that

(40:55):
stood toe to toe and got in the phone booth
and just slugged it out with AJ. But I don't
know who expected that. If you expected Jake to do that,
you were mistaken as to what you were going to get.
This was always going to be Jake looking for a
miracle shot multiple times per round and using the rest
of that round to create distance in space and not
get hit with a big punch. That was the entire

(41:15):
point of Jake doing this. It wasn't to stand toe
to toe with aj And I think that's sometimes people
look at a fight and go, this is what I wanted,
and the fact that you didn't do.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
That means that you weren't brave.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Because Francis did that and because every other heavyweight did that,
but Jake was clearly undersized undermatch. It was never gonna
be a great fight in terms of, oh, both guys
are going to stand there and we're gonna get them
fighting in the pocket, and someone's gonna come out on top,
and Jake's gonna take it to Anthony Joshua like that. No.
I know, Jake may have said that and okay, incorrect,
you know, deceptive marketing, Welcome to the Jake Paul Show.

(41:48):
But in reality, that was that was never gonna be
the guest. Jake was going to do what he did
in this fight. Every single time I saw Ocho Cinco
and you know, Shannon Sharp and all these people bring
their opinions on what Jake's strategy was and how he prepared,
let me tell you that is exactly what Jake and
his team wanted to do. Now, did he execute all
the things he wanted to? No, he lost, But they
wanted to fight just like that because it was the

(42:10):
only way Jake was one gonna survive into the later
rounds and two gonna have a chance at even landing anything.
I also don't know which rounds Jake, you know, purportedly
won if you look at the copy box numbers, this
was not a very.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
High activity fight.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
You could say Jake won the first round and maybe
the fourth, but again this is just on paper. I
think the reality probably states that Jake won the first
and everything else was Joshua because in all of these rounds,
Jake was solely on the back foot. Jake was engaging
only when engaged with and you know, for the most
part the numbers being even, aj did dominate, and I

(42:47):
mean absolutely dominate ring generalship. So I gotta push back
right away on Jake saying he won two rounds.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
That is not the case.

Speaker 7 (42:54):
Yeah, I was doing good. I just think I my cardio.
Just the mental pressure of the big guy and sparring
the big people is different than the ten once gloves,
so I was feeling his power a lot more. But
it was great experience, like I learned a lot in there.

(43:15):
I can't really fucking talk, are you in pain. Yeah,
but it's not from like talking, so Jake says.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
You know, he mostly was doing good until his cardio
caught up with him. I think to him, he did
do what he wanted, which was in I guess hitting
his mind a good approach to the fight, But in reality,
he didn't do a lot in the fight.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
He landed some big punches.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
I've watched the fight back at this point, and what
was impressive was his ability to move around. For sure,
like it was cool to see him move around, but
he didn't do much to aj in terms of the
power that he brought. And that was when everything kind
of fell apart. I think they almost banked on the
fact that if Jake did land on him that he
could hurt him.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
That wasn't the case.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Jake landed flush on him multiple times, and going into
the fight, iye, and a lot of people told you
guys that if Jake wasn't able to hurt Tommy Fury
landing flush on him, Yes, Jake was smaller than and
he's come up and wait since but if that wasn't
the case and he couldn't wobble Tommy Fury, how was
he gonna hurt ag It didn't take a rocket scienist
to know that AJ was just gonna stay on the
front foot and not let Jake breathe even if he
moved around. And AJ didn't cut off the ring as

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much as he wanted to early on. He was gonna
be in Jake's face the entire time. And Yeah, when
a guy that hits like AJ hits you with ten
ounce gloves on, that shit fucking hurts and it will
take it out of you. If you get hit to
the body. Those things zap your stamina like that.

Speaker 8 (44:29):
I do want to know one thing, because I think
one thing that is undeniable.

Speaker 6 (44:34):
Is your chin. I mean, anyone who questioned whether or
not you had a.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
Chin well before, right, I'm interested to see what Logan
says here, But Jake's chin has now fundamentally changed whatever
his chin could take before.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
AJ just wrecked with a right hand down mainstream.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
And this is why I kind of worry about what's
gonna happen with Jake moving forward. I really do wonder
how is his chin gonna hold up, because it one
right hand just broke every thing about what made Jake's
chin great. Like I said, coming into this fight, Jake's
got a solid chin, He's got a head like a pitbull.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
It's hard to hurt him. And even the right hand
AJ hit him with.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
I'm gonna tell you now, there is not a heavyweight
on the planet Earth that takes that right hand flush
and keeps fighting. The fact that Jake took it and
didn't go out cold when a lot of heavyweights have
and did, shocked me. The fact that he was able
to still be conscious shocked me. That shows you how.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
Good of a chin Jake had. But that's gone now.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
Now it's replaced by metal and screws, and I just
I wonder how well does something synthetic like that hold up,
especially if he gets touched on the chin again, if
he does fight again. This is why I part of
the reason why I think this may put some things
in perspective.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
We'll see.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
And again I'm not saying Jake is gonna take some
time here before he comes back, but that's a major injury.
He had a great chin. What does he have now though,
with the replacement and the four plates and the screws,
how does it hold up going forward?

Speaker 6 (45:52):
I think the answer to that question was proven last night.

Speaker 8 (45:55):
Bro, you can take a shot Anthony Joshua hissed you
with probably hardest shot that we've seen drop every other.

Speaker 6 (46:02):
Single fighter that he's fought.

Speaker 8 (46:04):
Yeah, and he hit you in the face, and not
only did you not get knocked out, you dropped and
said wow.

Speaker 7 (46:10):
I was like wow, I was on the ground. I
was like, that was a good shot.

Speaker 6 (46:15):
Dude, did surprise you with his power?

Speaker 7 (46:19):
Like to be honest, no, but I mean he surprised
my jaw.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Yeah he did. Yeah, I mean, yeah, of course he did.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Now, again, that was the most flush shot that aj
landed in the fight, so of course it surprised him.
That's why he was on the ground saying wow. That
was the shot that showed Jake the difference in what
he had fought and what he was fighting, right, So
of course it's surprised.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
I think Jake is.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Being a little you know, I don't ego whatever. He
doesn't want to say. Yeah, I walked in there and
got surprised.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Of course he did. It was that moment.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
Now, everything before that I don't know. But he himself
also said like, yeah, that pressure was exhausting and it
was different. It was something that I didn't feel before.
So there were a lot of surprises in there for
Jake that night, and and I'm not going to give
him too much stick over it because he's probably fresh
out of a surgery on morphine and all these other
pain pills, but clearly it surprised him how hard Aj hit.
Even if he had prepared for it, you can't really

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prepare for it.

Speaker 6 (47:13):
There's that one photo. Your draw looks like your face.

Speaker 7 (47:16):
Bro, it's literally snapped, when completely snapped.

Speaker 8 (47:19):
After the fight, you were like, I think like one
of my teeth is and you open your mouth.

Speaker 6 (47:23):
I was the first to see it.

Speaker 8 (47:24):
I went, oh, oh, you broke you broke your draw.

Speaker 6 (47:29):
I'm both sides.

Speaker 7 (47:30):
Too, but yeah, I mean I told everyone though that
I would do better than Francis and that Francis kind
of got no chin. Francis looky soft.

Speaker 6 (47:40):
You made it further than Francis.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
Yeah, okay, so so.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
Let's let's address this before they get into the next thing.
By the way, I just saw a wild GP standing
in the background creepily. He was in the camo pants,
so I almost didn't see him, but there he is.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
What is he doing?

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Did Jake do better than Francis and Ghanho? I've seen
this debate on the internet today and since the fight happened.
I guess it's a question that has two answers. Number one, like,
it depends on how you look at the fight. Did
Jake last longer, did he beat AJ? And did he
win a round off?

Speaker 2 (48:11):
AJ?

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Answers, Yeah, so technically, yeah, he did perform better in
the fight in terms of winning one round which I
gave Jake one round and lasting longer than Francis did. Now,
the counter argument to that, which one KSI has brought
up among other people is, let me see if I
can find the tweet here. The fact that Jake Paul
six rounds lasted longer in the ring with Anthony Joshua

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than Francis, a guy who two rounds did, is wild. Yes,
I do you think people are stupid? One came to fight,
one came to survive. Yes, there's some truth in that
that Jake did employ a strategy that was very much
a negative style of fighting, stay away from the power.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
You could call it running, and you'll be right.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
You can also say it's smart for a guy Jake's
size and understanding that AJ is a fucking monster, It's
also smart to fight that way. It's not the most
aesthetically pleasing. It was not the most engaging for fans.
But when Jake says he has a better chin than Francis,
I start to wonder a little bit about that one.
Because Francis got hit with a lot of flush punches
in their fight, and both guys got dropped multiple times

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in their fight. It just happened to be later on
that Jake got hit with the flush punch. Now again
you can attribute that to who's a better boxer or
who had the better feet or whatever. When we were
talking about chin specifically, Francis got hit with three or
four flush and I mean clean on the whistle punches
because he was engaging and stepping to AJ and he
was there for the fight. So did Jake do better

(49:31):
than Francis in terms of winning around and being around longer? Yeah,
technically Jake had more success versus Anthony Joshua. Was it
a better performance? Both guys didn't really do much, So
I don't know. Does Jake have a better chin? Hey,
he got hit with again some punches from AJ, no
doubt about it, but one flush punch.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
That put him down and didn't knock him out cold.
Francis got knocked out cold. But he got knocked out
cold after taking like three or four flush punches.

Speaker 6 (50:00):
Browns, you know what that means.

Speaker 8 (50:03):
What he's gotta He could beat Frank Francis.

Speaker 6 (50:08):
Based on the lock bag. Wow, he's a good ideas.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
I don't know if it's a good idea at this point.
Now it wasn't a good idea in retrospect to fight
Anthony Joshua. I don't know if it was a good
idea at that point to fight Francis, but France is
not accepting the fight in retrospect. If he does, if
Jake wants to fight him now, may have been a
smart option because now he gets a compromise Jake to
a degree. We'll see how the jaw heals up. But
can Jake just beat Francis by using the same strategy

(50:34):
he used against aj Maybe or maybe Francis finds his
chin and Francis also.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Hits like a mack truck.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
I do think Jake's got better boxing fundamentals than Francis
does in terms of when to throw, what to throw,
where to throw, and using his feet.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
But Francis is a lot better.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
Than just a guy that had one boxing match he
stood to to toe with you know, Tyson Fury. It
didn't go so well for him, but he stood to
totoe with aj But could Jake beat Francis? He's saying
that like he wants to fight him, and I just worry, like,
maybe that's not the you need coming right back in
the summer of next year, or if again Jake comes
back anytime soon at all, because one more detonation on
that chin and how many times can you have reconstruction surgery?

Speaker 7 (51:11):
I think maybe now he'll take it like and be like,
oh shit, well he has something to prove.

Speaker 5 (51:15):
Yeah, the resounding Twitter sentiment that just doesn't matter at all.
But all the haters last night, their storyline was that
you were moving around a lot, which which I just
don't I know, I just don't get it, Like what
do you like? What do they expect you to do?
So so Joshua is gonna walk you down every time.

Speaker 7 (51:36):
Unless I die, people will still hate me.

Speaker 6 (51:38):
It is it is, It is so true.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
That is true, and I don't even want to be
one of these, Like again, I'm not trying to be
a Jake Glazer, but it is true, Like you, Jake
was never gonna please everybody.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Last night.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
If Jake would have went out there and knocked out
Anthony Joshua, you would have seen people call it rigged,
you know what I'm saying, Like you you were seeing
that already start to be in motion, like, oh, AJ's
got to take a fall.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
AJ can't knock him out. So it always will be
some thing.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
But also people are allowed to have their criticism for
the way that Jake fought based on how he was
talking about knocking out Agent.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
But I didn't mind the way he fought.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
I knew that was the only way he could fight,
but it just wasn't an aesthetically pleasing way to fight
for fans. It wasn't entertaining for fans to see Jake
do that and then you know, get into the clinch
so much, and then you know, AJ push on him,
him fall to the ground, and then eventually AJ wasn't
even pushing on him, and Ja would fall to the ground.
That stuff wasn't engaging for fans. So I have no
problem with people being like, yeah, Jake, you ran, you.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
Were a runner.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
You are jacksta he ain't. And I don't mind people
saying that because it's true that's what he did.

Speaker 6 (52:33):
There's two pools of uh people in this fight.

Speaker 8 (52:39):
One pool is holy shit mad respect to Jake Paul,
what a fighter, absolute warrior.

Speaker 6 (52:43):
The other is.

Speaker 7 (52:44):
Fucking ran around the whole fight, shot takedowns.

Speaker 6 (52:47):
Blah blah blah.

Speaker 8 (52:48):
Like bro, God blessed that Ladder group because you guys
are so fucking stupid, and like, I hope that I
hope that life pans out for you, because if you're
unable to see this fight, for one, it is you
have a level of dark hatred.

Speaker 6 (53:04):
Blackout stupid.

Speaker 5 (53:07):
A lot of them are just really stupid, and that's fine.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
But it's not just people are hating Jake or stupid.
They are also wanting to see if Jake can go
toe to toe with Anthony Joshua because that's what they
expect to fight to be. And that's you know, the
same casual audience that will watch a Logan Paul fight
are the ones he's calling stupid and stuff like that.
I'm not gonna call those people stupid. Not everyone is
a boxing expert. Not everyone understands the complexities and nuances

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of how Jake was gonna have to approach this fight.
They just wanted to see a you know, knockdown drag
out fight, because that's what when they're building this fight for,
that's what the idea is. Jake and AJ are going
to have a fight, and Jake and AJ are both
talking about killing each other in there, and Jake and
AJ are both talking about inflicting damage. And you know,
we saw that from one side, and again Jake did
land some punches, but it was few and far between

(53:55):
it because it kind of had to be few and
far between. And if you didn't expect that, you don't
understand the complexities of how Jake had to approach fighting
that much of a bigger guy with that much power
in his punches. But that's okay, doesn't make them stupid,
it just makes them not boxing experts.

Speaker 5 (54:09):
The only thing that I'll say take away from the
Internet for a second is like it seemed like that
was what the problem was for your conditioning.

Speaker 6 (54:16):
You were moving a lot. It was just mental.

Speaker 7 (54:18):
Really, it was just like them him imposing his will
on me and being massive in the big shots landing
and then yeah, it pretty much all goes downhill from there.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
And this is something that AJ told Jake, if we
remember back, he told Jake that I'm gonna need to
take your soul. It didn't mean it in terms of
just physically. He was like, I'm gonna have to break
you mentally. I have to play with your mind. I
know Jake's a very mental guy. And that's what Jake
is essentially saying happened. Jake was like, no one can
break me. You know, only God can do that. But

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that's what Jake is saying without saying happened to him,
is that AJ's size and his frame was so mentally
taxing and the chess game of the big punches, but
also you know, try to land on this guy.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
Eventually it got to Jake's head that it.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
Was not going to work, and it wasn't working, and
AJ was still in his face, and that takes a
mental toll on you. And when it affects you mentally,
it affects you physically, right it it zaps your gas tank.
It makes you overly concerned about the punches coming in
versus executing on your end. So ironically, AJ was exactly
correct on what he was going to do to Jake
and what ended up happening. It took a little longer

(55:28):
than I thought it would, but that message he sent
to Jake about taking his soul, breaking his soul, stomping
all over him, doing all that, beating him mentally. Aj
kind of did that exactly the way he said he would.

Speaker 7 (55:38):
I just needed to have that extra level of cardio
for this, and that would that only can come from
going to altitude.

Speaker 6 (55:46):
And can I add that you were very sick for
ten days now? He can't do this these three times
thing right now.

Speaker 8 (55:53):
He didn't sneeze three times, but that takes away from
your cardio when you're recovering from illness.

Speaker 6 (55:59):
I think the camp wasn't a nd is that act.

Speaker 5 (56:02):
That's kind of what I was gonna ask, like, do
you feel like it was your best camp?

Speaker 1 (56:07):
No?

Speaker 7 (56:08):
I mean just because, like I was weighing like two
hundred pounds when we confirmed the fight and then I
had to gain more weight. But I mean, yeah, man,
it's a great experience overall to be in there with
someone who's that good. I learned a lot and I
see where I could have done better. So I'm I'm

(56:29):
a little disappointed, but I also know how good he is.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
So I said this and the Andrew Tate video say
it here. Even though Jake's not really the one offering
up the excuses. I know it's his mom and his
brother and Mike trying to give him like a trying
to hold the branch out and be like, yeah, grab
onto this to make some sense of this.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
You can't have any excuses at this point if.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
You're Jake, the people around him, sure, that's his family whatever.
You took a fight on short notice that you knew
the risks for. You changed the fight from Jervonte to
AJ and you knew that you were changing everything about
the fight. So I don't want to hear the oh,
I could have done this, my cardio would have been
better that if I would have done this. That it
doesn't matter no ifs in the fight game. The ring
is the chamber of truth for a reason. And the

(57:10):
reason that Jake lost isn't because he didn't go to altitude.
It's not because he wasn't two thirty instead of two twenty.
It was because AJ is levels above him as a
boxer and as a actual heavyweight size, frame, restrength, all
of it. And at the end of the day, he's
just better and that's it, and that's okay. Jake, did

(57:30):
I think as well as I as you could have
asked him to?

Speaker 7 (57:33):
Do, but I had him wobble at one point, you
landed some I had him wobble. Then I was like,
fuck what. He kept his hands up better this fight.

Speaker 6 (57:41):
You landed that right hand.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
Yeah, and yeah, Jake did not have him wobbled. I
know the right hand he's talking about, and I maybe
we can even find it. This is the shot that
they're referring to that Jake landed on AJ. Might have
been that shot right That was the shot that Jake
said he bobbled a with. Hit him with some right hands.
Here's one of them, right hand over the top. He

(58:04):
kind of landed with an open fist because Jake gets
very wide when he steps off with a jab to
the body, but he brings a lot of power behind
that punch, so much so his feet come off the ground,
which usually leaves him in a bad spot defensively, but
if you landed, it doesn't really matter.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
He lands this right hand. It's a big right hand.
But AJ is not wobbled from that shot. But it
was a big shot. Like nothing to take away from
from Jake.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
All credit to him for even attempting those kind of shots,
let alone landing that shot. That was a huge shot
to land. But Aj is just again, He's a full
fledged six six two probably two fifty at that point,
heavyweight and just ate the shit, right. That's that's all
it is now. What he says after that, in terms
of AJ's hands being in the right place, he for

(58:47):
sure looked at that Daniel Dubois fighte and went, if
I land on AJ with his hands in the wrong place,
I can maybe follow up and land another big one,
because du Wad did that and AJ came out with
some absolute nonsensical defense first Dubla where his hands were down.
He was just I don't think he took Duba seriously
as he should have, and uh, Daniel fucked him up.

Speaker 6 (59:07):
Are you gonna keep boxer? Yeah? You really love this shit? Huh. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (59:14):
I'm gonna take some time off to support Utah at
the Olympics, and she's gonna move to Puerto Rico. Move
her here, maybe go snowboarding or something.

Speaker 6 (59:25):
Maybe get ask me some cousins.

Speaker 7 (59:27):
Yeah that that part, bro, I have such baby fever. Yeah,
like I want I want kids so bad.

Speaker 6 (59:37):
Yeah, you're gonna be a great dad.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
That's dope to hear.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
I know people aren't gonna really care about none of that,
But I'm in that same portion of life where I'm like,
you know, I'm out ready to start a family and
we've got my dog Rocky and my girlfriend Chloe's moving in,
and I don't know, I resonate with that.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Kind of stuff, you know. So that's cool to hear.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
Now, before we move on with, uh, you know, whatever
else is going on here, let's talk about Jake could
POTENTI continuing to box. Now, Jake just had a four
metal plate surgery in his jaw. Now, jaw surgeries, I
wouldn't say they're common in boxing in terms of like,
oh yeah, every day there's a boxer getting four plates
putting their their mouth and eight screws drilled in. But

(01:00:14):
there are a number of boxing jaw surgeries that have happened,
and one of the biggest one in recent memories is Giopatiah.
Giopatia in twenty twenty two broke his jaw.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
In two places. It was bilateral, just like Jake's. Now.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
I don't know if it was as bad where he
had four plates and eight screws in it, but he
did have bilateral. It helps to think of the manimal
and two pieces from one ear down to the middle
of the chin and up the other side. Now, when
Giopatiah had it done, he went and got it fixed.
And at the time, the answers like, what will it
affect him going forward? And one of the I don't

(01:00:48):
think this is the surgeon actually worked on it. But
a surgeon that looked at the x rays and had
an opinion said no. The short answers, no, I don't
think so he won't have any problems returning once the
bone fuses the way it was before, the likelihood of
it fracturing from another trauma is not any higher because
of these fractures. If you do take a look at
the x ray a year after, the only thing you'll
see is the screws and the plate used to fix

(01:01:09):
the fracture. You won't see a fracture, whether it was
in the front or the back, or if it was displaced.
The jaw will fuse back. So for someone like him,
I do plates on the top and bottom. You take precautions,
You allow waiting time for it to heal, and maybe
modifications of treatment because of his lifestyle. You do everything
you can for their treatment. You have a concept of
medicine called patient centered treatment, so you're the teacher. We
treat the jaw fractured A da da dah. So essentially,

(01:01:31):
this doctor is saying, yeah, it's not a problem to
do this surgery and have an.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
Athlete come back.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
And apparently it won't actually hurt the sustainability of Jake's
jaw to have this surgery done. In fact, it will
fuse the bone back together. And what you would see
if you X ray this again is simply the plates
and the screws in his face. Apparently that means it
would be as good as new, I guess, even though
it doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I
always have held the belief every time you go under

(01:01:56):
the knife, if you take away a percentage of the
structural integrity of whatever it was you had previously, right.
I've had many surgeries, no fractures that I've had to have,
you know, you know, plates or screws on, but I
have had to have a screw in my arm for
my bicep surgery and X, Y and Z, and I've
never come back the same. And maybe that's an error
on my part, but I do wonder, you know, how

(01:02:17):
much damage can Jake take. You're already seeing his nose
look like a crescent moon. He's got now four plates,
eight screws in his jaw. He's talking about having kids.
He's gonna marry Utah. Also, the parent recovery for this
is about six to eight weeks, and he's gonna be
eating apparently only liquids and drinking only liquids for four weeks,
so he may lose a lot of weight during that time.
Maybe that's a blessing in disguise for him to go. Yeah, no,

(01:02:39):
I need to be a cruiserweight or maybe even heaven forbid,
go down to light heavyweight, which I think he would
be way better at. But then again, he's gotten so
big now he maybe can't do that. Regardless, it doesn't
seem like this will affect Jake long term, but then again,
it's always when you have I think a major surgery
like that, I don't know if you can ever be sure.
So he wants to continue boxing. Fair plate to him,

(01:02:59):
But at least there is precedent in the past for
a surgery like this in Giopatiah and many other boxers.
And apparently, as you see now, Giopatia is still a
bad motherfucker. In twenty twenty, five you can recover. Well,
I don't think there's anything else we're gonna get from
this video. But the question I had coming into it
was is Jake's boxing career going to come to an
end because of this double jaw surgery? Is this going
to modify his career? Is going to change his future

(01:03:22):
in any way? And is the lost to Anthony Joshua
going to change his future? These things I don't have
answers for. They just came out with the number. Uh,
we'll look at this really quickly. Anthony Joshua and Jake
did thirty three million live viewers, fifteen million for the
comain top ten on Netflix and ninety one country number
one and forty five highest skat in the.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
History of the Cassea Center.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
This is a success for Jake and Joshua, but it
isn't what they said it would be, which was the
fight that beat Canelo and Terrence Crawford. That fight did
forty one million, So boxing and the boxing gatekeepers are
going to pump their fist.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
On that one and say we got you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
But this number, you know, the Mike Tyson fight was
over one hundred million. I think you can see now
that Mike was a megastar in that case, but still
thirty three millions an insane number to have for this fight,
especially on the short notice and all that. But with
all that being said, Jake, if he has the right opponent,
we know can sell even after this loss to Anthony Joshua.
I don't think that'll change very much. But I do

(01:04:20):
think in the minds of the people that watch, they
want to see Jake fight, they want to see him box,
and they want something that they know will be competitive.
They want something that there is an equal chance of
him winning and losing. Because the strategy as of late
has been Jake will win easily or Jake will be destroyed,
and that it gets by for a while, but eventually

(01:04:41):
you return to the question of are you trying to
be in the sport to be competitive or are you
trying to be in the sport to put on events
and make a ton of money. And those two things
can go together. They just haven't recently for Jake, which
is why I think his next move should be after
a long layoff Tommy Fury, and even then has enough
change for Jake to win the rematch. I don't have

(01:05:02):
those answers, but we're gonna be out for a while.
We'll see what Jake decides.

Speaker 6 (01:05:05):
Will it be.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
Francis Ganu, Will it be some other fight? Is he
going to try and make a play to elevate himself
in the cruiserweight division?

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
Maybe even KSI I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
Kidding that fight's dead in the water. What happens with
Jake and twenty twenty six? Don't have those answers, but
I guess we'll find out. All right, folks, we're back
on the Way concept firsented by The Ring Magazine. Now, Yeah,
In a Way just finished a dominant performance versus Allan Picasso,
and the fight was one sided.

Speaker 4 (01:05:30):
It was a complete, wash, clean sweep.

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
Twelve rounds in the book for in a Way, the
fight was in Saudi Arabia, different timeframe. I've been on
a plane all day traveling to North Carolina. But the
fight's over and we have to break it down and
I need to talk to you guys about potential future
matchups for In a Way, because this dude needs a
massive fight. He's such a fantastic boxer, so talented that
I feel like if we don't get one for him,

(01:05:54):
sou he's thirty two years old, I feel like the
matchups that already could have been and maybe still can
and the are falling by the wayside, And I don't
want to waste this guy's prime as it hits right
now as a top pound for pound boxer in the
world in a way dominates.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Let's talk about it the breakdown. Let's go.

Speaker 4 (01:06:14):
In a way versus Picasso. This was a work of art.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
No pun intended.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
This was in a way hitting Picasso with so many
punches he probably wanted to cut off his ears once
so we didn't hear him coming in two because that
hum was still rigging from the fist hitting him on
the side of the head. This was a in a
way style performance. He still got hit with punches right.
This is something we've seen out of in a way
even as a massive favorite. He was minus forty five
hundred in this fight.

Speaker 4 (01:06:35):
Let's just call it what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
We knew this was probably going to be the case.
He was gonna win my big time knockout or very
easy decision. Turns out to be the latter, but we
knew he was probably gonna get hit with punches. The
left hook still seems to be a sore spot in
an open area. If you want to attack in a way.
He's been put on the deck and had his orbital
fractured by that left hook. It's a dangerous punch that
I don't know if he just doesn't see it sometimes

(01:06:57):
or just his style where his hands are, where his
hand placement is, it gets him caught with it. So
that's something that an Away is going to have to
take care of going forward.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
But outside of that, it was flawless.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
I mean watching this guy box, watching him get more
aggressive when he gets hit, or watching him throw his
combination punches, moving the matrix b defense to offense back
to offense defense, the transitions between the way he eats
up space with his offense and even while being in.

Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
Front of you. I mean, he is very, very very
good and he's a.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
Pleasure to watch for the lower weight classes, and again
we talk about top five pound for pound. Terrence Crawford
is out of the list now because he is officially retired,
although as of this recording, I think he might be
doing a live stream with Aiden Ross will cover if
anything crazy happens. But yeah, so of course he holds
his pound for pound standing. He takes down another undefeated fighter,
but we knew this was coming. This was not a
surprise that in a way went out and was in

(01:07:44):
a way once again, it was completely one sided. Like
I said, a twelve ozho sweep. The fight wasn't close, and.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
It wasn't meant to be.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
The fight was meant to set up him versus Nakatani.
And that's the fight in Japan. That's probably gonna sell
a ton of tickets. It's going to probably attract a
ton of eyes from not just you know people in Japan,
but across the world. Problem is, Nakatani, damn near lost
his fight on the undercar and I'll be honest, from
the outsider's perspective, I could see him actually losing that
fight even though he got the decision. He got beat up,

(01:08:11):
he got his eye, damn near swell shut. And I
think some of the steam might have been lifted off
of that fight. Because this is another issue that boxing
continuously has, is this set up the fight by having
them both on the same card to build to their fight.

Speaker 4 (01:08:26):
It's still a fight at the end of the day.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
These things can go wrong very very very quickly, and
it's happened time and time again throughout the sport where
we wait one fight too long to set up a
major super fight that we can as fans be excited
for and see a true test of who's the best
at their given weight. This one almost backfired again as
Nakatani barely holds on to win a decision. And I
think that's the fight that in a way wants next.

(01:08:47):
I think that's the fight that would make most sense
for Japan obviously, where he'll probably be fighting now again,
we'll see is he going to do something in the US.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
Is he going to do something in Saudi.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
Arabia Again, he's with the Ring magazine, but Japan has
a thriving boxing scene with these two ringing masters, the
suits Sumi brothers.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
I've seen Rito fight a couple different times now. He
is a.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Phenom, so I'm excited to see all those matchups. But
this one, you know, the Knakatani performance kind of took
a little bit of the shine off of what would
be a big fight and still is, in my opinion,
still is a big fight because in a way has tendencies,
and he has vulnerabilities, and he's a dog, right so
if you do get in a scrap with a meal,
scrap it out with you. This is why we love

(01:09:26):
watching him fight. But I'll be honest, I would rather
see him fight Bam Rodriguez. I think that's the fight
to make. I know Bam would have to come up
and weight, but we're talking what four pounds we're talking,
you know, a very minimal jump in weight that easily
I think can be made. And again we're not we're
talking about fight weight versus walk around weight, and how
different that is.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
I understand.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
But Bam looked so good in his last fight, dropping
motherfuckers late in the fight after dominating on a ring
card on the ring four essentially all gold card. His
performance was one of the standout performances, dominating the fight
into the fight, then drops his opponent, wins by stoppage
in a big time performance, and he was getting trash
talked all week. A massive moment, pressure filled and he delivered.

(01:10:09):
That would be the fight I want to see that.
That's the fight I think a lot of boxing fans
want to see because in the lower weight classes, we've
seen stars be produced by name recognition, fighting name recognition
in their ibso facto primes. Now again, in a way,
is aging out of his prime. I would say at
thirty two years old, but he's still got some juice left.
He still has top level performances left in his tank.

(01:10:31):
And I know Bam is the next generation of the
lower weight class boxing, but he is talented, he's fast,
he's got a mean streak, all the things that you
love about in a way, in a similar way you
love about Bam Rodriguez. They're very quiet on assuming guys,
very respectful for the sport, but once they get in,
absolute murderers, and that's what we.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
Want to see that matchup. And now again weight classes.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
We've had this discussion about in a way in Tank
Davis and that fight's pretty much all the way gone
now at this point, I mean, think about the missed
opportunities that Tank Davis has had in terms of name
recognition and money fights with potentially in a way if
you could agree on a wait, which would be way
too far gone now, I think because of how out
of shape and bigger Tank Davis has got. But Shaquor

(01:11:11):
Stevenson was there, Devin Haney was there, te O was there,
Loma was there. There have been so many different opportunities,
but Tank is Tank, and he tanked his career. But yeah, man,
I think that this would be an insane fight in
a way, Bam Rodriguez do it here in the States.
I know that's a little bit selfish of me as
a as a you know, some out of the American
watching boxing, but I think it'd be a real opportunity

(01:11:33):
to have in a way crossover into an American market
and also to build the prowess and the stardom in
the name recognition of a guy like Bam Rodriguez. Maybe
that could be a main event in America. Definitely would
be a main event in Japan. But it's just me
being selfish. That matchup's probably not next, I'll be honest,
It probably won't happen for a very long time. It
could be in a way in his late thirties before

(01:11:53):
Bam and him match up, and I don't know who
side that'll be on. I saw that in a way
called out Bam also called out not Tani, which again
I think will be the fight. So I love him
taking names. I love him saying this is who I
want to fight. I hope that happens. But yeah, that's
that's my main takeaway.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
Again.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
We could sit here and do the x's and o's
breakdown of a twelve round suite. But let's be honest,
it was really just a showcase for now. Yeah, in
a way, that was his showcase again. And I don't
necessarily like those kind of fights, but it's hard not
to like watching In a Way fight, and in Saudi
Arabia a different environment. There was something with the hand
wraps before the fight about some legality issues they were having,
and the last time someone complained about in a Way's

(01:12:30):
hand wraps, he damn near left on comatose. So surprised
that Picasso got out of there without his face rearranged bars.
But yeah, complete domination again. Combination of violence with the
sweet science. That is what makes a boxer in my opinion.
It isn't just the sweet science. It isn't just the brawling,
you know, violent mentality. It is violence personified as art.
It is the art of war, right, the ability to

(01:12:53):
be a violent individual but then be able to control
it and let that beast out when the time has come,
but be strategic and technical until that time comes, setting
up your deadly weapon, whether it's that right hand.

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
Or the left.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
So big time performance for in a Way sets up
some new things for him going forward sets up potentially
a VAM Rodriguez fite, but most likely a showdown in
Japan with Na Katani. I think that's the most likely
scenario of this, And listen, I was more hype before
this fight for that matchup, but I'm still hype for
the matchup because it is fighting and anything can happen.

(01:13:25):
I'll tell you that I'm more hype for a matchup
like that than i am something like Deontay Wilder and
Alexander Usik, which will probably happen in twenty twenty six
instead of when it should be Alexander Usik and you know,
Fabio Wardley or Moses Atalma.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
Those fights make a whole lot more sense than that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
But sometimes I guess name recognition pays the bills regardless.
In a way does this thing once again absolutely dominates?

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
What do you expect?

Speaker 4 (01:13:48):
Is a minus four thousand, five.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
Hundred favorite, But you still got to go out there,
put the gloves on and get it done. Na Katani
barely skates by after kind of getting pieced the fuck up.
Don't really know how he wanted a decision there. That
matchup seems next, but give me Bam Rodriguez and now
you're in a way yesterday. I need that fight. I
want that fight. I hope we get that fight, but
don't have those answers. So what happens for in a

(01:14:11):
way next? Will it be Nakatani probably, or will it
be Bam Rodriguez? And can we get those big name
staple fights for him as he starts to enter that
twilight of his prime again?

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
The Bam fight.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
I know I'm pushing for it, but I don't have
those answers, So I guess we'll find out

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