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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, so we are back on the way COSA
presented by The Ring Magazine. That's right, we're back not
only on the channel, but we're back home finally for
the first time in a month.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
I had a blast on the road, had a blast
in Florida, had a blast in North Carolina, had to
blast in my return to Misfits, and it really was that.
It felt good to be back on Misfits. I hope
that's something I can continue doing. Spoke to ma'ams after
the event. He said, I'm welcome back whenever. We'll see
when that lines up. I'm definitely down to do another
(00:29):
Misfits and to be there more continually. But today I
want to talk about the main event of Misfits twenty
two and it's Winner, more specifically Darren Till, who just
left Luke rock Hold in Snoozeland. I know they went
out for drinks and had a nice time after, but
Darren Till put a left hand through Luke Rockhold's jaw
so fast and so many times. It was like Luke
registered for a dentist and needed a couple of check ups.
(00:50):
Darren Tann was all up in that shit. Now the
question is what does Darren Till do next? And the
one name that kept being brought up that I think
in another world could happen but absolutely won't happen is
Jake Paul. Jake Paul is not fighting Darren Til. He
won't fight Darren Hill. And there's multiple reasons why, outside
of the Javonte Tank Davis fight that's coming up in November.
(01:11):
We're gonna talk about that fight as it gets closer,
but today I want to tell you why Jake Paul
will not fight Darren Till. Absolutely not. Here's why the
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Darren Til Jake Paul, this question was postulated to myself,
(03:25):
Tony Bell, you ma'am's Taylor night man cantop or should
I say all of us on stage after the night
was done and Darren Hill had fed sleeping pills in
the form of a left hand to Luke rock Hole,
and after Tony Ferguson had shocked pretty much all of us.
I mean, let's be honest, you did not think Tony
Ferguson was gonna be eat Salt Poppy and if you
(03:46):
say you did fair play, but I still think you're lying.
After all that was done, the question was asked, who
should darre until fight next, and I actually answered with
what I thought at the moment, which was Carl Frotch.
We're gonna get to him in a second. That fight
I need. I need Darren's Carl Frotch. But yes, I
I'm pretty sure or MAM's Taylor won. Brought up Jake
Paul and folks, I'm gonna tell you that fight's not
(04:07):
gonna happen anytime soon or potentially ever, and it's for
multiple reasons, number one of which, yes, Jake Paul has
Jervonte Tank Davis or as Tony Bell you called him
on stage many Tank. Obviously that's the next fight. Tank
for going defending his world championship and being an active
world champion to fight Jake Paul in an exhibition that
we still don't know much about. But what we do
know is if it makes dollars, it makes sense, and
(04:29):
that fight is going to make millions and millions of
dollars for both guys and again, as far as big
events go, Jake puts on some of the biggest in
the world. Speaking of big events, make sure you guys
watch Canelo versus Crawford September thirteenth live on Netflix. Your
boy's gotta be there and flying out next week, and
I'm gonna be covering this fight from all angles. Son
content going crazy starting next week. Anyway, we know that
(04:51):
that's what's next for Jake. I'm hearing talks still between
the Kisavderian and Eddie Hearn. Despite what people think, I
still do believe there's a potential that Jake Paul fights
Anthony Joshua in the early part of twenty twenty six,
and then as far as what happens next for Jake,
I truly don't know, but that right there is the
first part of this Jake's schedule. It doesn't look like
it's going to even be plausible that Jake and Darren
(05:14):
could line up at any scheduled time for a meeting
of the fists between the squared circles ropes. That's not
gonna happen anytime soon. Number two, there's still a bit
of an issue between MVP and Misfit when it comes
to making fights. I think everybody knows this, and most
likely that would have to be the two people doing
the matchup.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
You could have Washerman involved, but we know that Nakisa
and MAM's they don't coexist well when it comes to
fight negotiation. Otherwise we probably would have had Jake Paul
Ksi three years ago. So add on as a number
two point that we have a bit of a negotiating
issue between MVP and misfit. Number three, there's no real
need for either person to do it because Jake has options.
(05:54):
I think Darren has options that we're gonna get into
because it's more of a Darren Hill video than it
is a Jake Paul video. Still, I think Darren has
a lot of options outside of Jake, and I think
he may need those options if he ever wants to
actually fight Jake, Like if there's ever a time where
it could potentially happen, he would need to beat the
options that I'm going to lay out in a second.
But Jake obviously doesn't need to fight Darren Hill. He
(06:15):
doesn't need to fight Ksi. He is making millions upon
millions of dollars doing these exhibitions with Mike Tyson Gavonte Davis,
potentially a pro fight versus Anthony Joshua, maybe a rematch
with Tommy Fury. I don't know what else, but it's
clear that Jake has already gone to a crazy level.
When it comes to options in the boxing ring, Jake
has a lot of options, some of which are the
(06:36):
same as Darren Till. I think Jake has a bit
more cachet, so he'd probably get more people should he
want to fight Carl Frott or a Tommy Fury or
somebody like that. He'd probably be the first option. Darren
would probably be the second because of the money that
would be involved. Number four, I guess if we're listing
them now, I think that Darren Hill is a lot
more dangerous, a lot more risk than reward. And yes,
(07:00):
that does mean I'm saying Darren Hill could be a
dangerous fight for Jake Paul. Not because I'm going to
put out there that I think Darren would beat Jake
right now, because I don't think that. So go ahead
and type it through the comments. I know your fingers
were itching to get on that D key and that
R key and you know what two words I'm talking about.
I'm just saying let's think logically about where we're sitting
(07:23):
at the moment. Jake Paul has beaten a ton of
MMA fighters that maybe don't have the skill of Darren Till.
And I'm not saying that Mike Perry has the Darren
Hill skill. That's not what I mean. I'm not saying
Tyren Woodley in boxing has Darren Hill's skill, because yes,
Terren Woodley in MMA did drop darre Until with the
right hand and ended up dars choking him and beating
him in an MMA fight. Comp different thing. We know this,
(07:45):
I've gone over it many times. But the experience that
Jake's had in the ring, the training camps for it,
the years and years in boxing now does, in my
opinion give him a leg up on Darren Hill right now.
I know people are saying, oh, Darren's gonna destroy him,
Darren's gonna kill him. Yeah, Okay, Darren Hill has had
a fantastic run in Misfits right now. But Jake Paul, listen,
I love my boy Anthony Taylor. But if the rumors
(08:06):
I've heard for years are true, Jake Paul was taking
Anthony Taylor to school insparring three years ago. That's what
I was here and Darren Till had a great showing
versus Anthony Taylor, but that's not something that really convinces
me and Darren Stewart, tough guy, Darren Till beat him up.
What toughness? Let Darren Stewart get back into that fight.
And Luke rock Hold, while yes, a tough guy, very
very tough to take some of the shots he took
(08:27):
and get back to his feet, and a big guy
and a strong guy, which does lend you to some
sort of ability to say, Okay, Darren Till can knock
guys out bigger than him. Let's be honest about the
fact that Luke rock Hold, even before he got in
there with Darren Hill, had been chinned many times in MMA,
and you know, bare knuckle as well. And by the
time he gets to Darren Till not gonna play the
(08:48):
whole forty year old game because that's not fair. Jake's
done that in his boxing career, but he hit the
floor a good amount of times and his skill was
not on par in the sport of boxing for Darren
Till even let alone trying to compare that one with Jake.
So I'm saying that to say, yeah, of course I would.
I would favor Jake Paul in that fight, but that
doesn't mean Darren Till can't beat it. That doesn't mean
Darren Till's not dangerous for it. Because what you're doing
(09:09):
right now, and this is what we've always done with
you know, the influencer and crossover side is you are
playing a bit of Russian Roulette every time Jake Paul,
a KSI, a Logan Paul, even now a Tommy Fury
steps into a boxing run because one fight could end
at all. One fight could absolutely destroy drawing power, attention,
(09:29):
everything a company potentially, Like if Jake Paul were to
get knocked out by Javonte Tank Davis, it is over
for any talks of Anthony Joshua or being world champion
or legitimizing himself in the sport of boxing. You can't.
He's one hundred and thirty five pounder. I know he's
one of the best in the world, but your two
hundred pounds or one ninety five on fight night and
(09:50):
you've been boxing for a lot. If he goes in
and gets knocked out by Dravonte Davis, you have to
fight like a Ksi at that point, you know, what
I'm saying, if KSI were to go in versus like
one of the Misfits guys and get dropped or get hurt,
you know, and or lose pretty much it for him,
you know what I'm saying, Like, the point is Darren Till,
for Jake Paul presents that risk. I absolutely think Darren
(10:12):
Till has enough power to hurt and potentially stop Jake Paul.
I absolutely think that. And I think if you were
to schedule that fight, seeing how seriously Darren Till is
taking this, seeing his natural skill for boxing, which I
think we all knew he had, there is an imminent
danger there. That doesn't represent the amount of risk Jake
is taking or the reward that would come out of it.
Like what happens if Jake Paul fights Darren Hill. Is
that a massive fight on the level of Gervonte, Tank Davis,
(10:35):
Anthony Joshua, Tommy Fury rematch, even a Carl Frost fight
for Jake. No, it's not because Darren Till, while being
a big star and right now honestly the face of Misfits,
he stitsn't on that level in terms of attention and
notoriety in the world. Just not true. And it also
doesn't you know, tickle the fancy of that other side
of what Jake's trying to do, you know, world championship
(10:57):
or fight legitimate boxers. It doesn't really do that for either.
So just didn't take any of the boxes. Again, that's
not a fault of Darren's. It's just a they're not
in the same kind of stratosphere right now. So Big
Paul's not going to fight Darren Hill. Now, with that
being said, let's talk about what potentially can happen for
Darren Hill next. I think the fight that you need
for Darren Hill right now is Carl Frodg Yes, the Cobra, Yes,
(11:20):
the man that sold out eighty thousand and Wembley, former
super middleweight champion. And yes, Carl's been retired for a
while now, since twenty fourteen, I think, and he's forty
eight years old. But that kind of makes this fight
a reality. I know that sounds weird and I'm not
you know, championing, let's all fight a bunch of old guys,
But I mean that's that's kind of what the crossover
scene has allowed for, is that retired boxers or retired
(11:43):
MMA fighters or people that are a little older can
rejuvenize their career or do it one more time, or
do something a little different, versus guys that were never
on their skill level in their primes, but because they're
age and maybe because their weight has gone up in
some cases or the sports change, it makes things a
little more even and we get a good fucking fight
out of it for the most part. This Saturday, Tony Ferguson,
in his forties, beat saw Poppy in his first ever
(12:06):
boxing match. Saw Poppy been doing that for years, and
it was a great moment, one of the greatest moments
in Misfit's history. I damn near cried when I saw
Tony hit both knees on the canvas and sit there
screaming out yes because he hadn't had a fight win
in six years. That was awesome to see. And the
principle of it, the principality of Darren Till versus Carl
Frotch works. They've been chirping at each other back and
(12:29):
forth for about a year and a half now. Carl
Froch is very much confident in himself and is a
bit braggadocious, and he has every right to be. This
is a former world champion and one of the best
from the UK we're talking about in Carl Froch, but
he also knows how to wind people up and he's
done it to Darren and they've been going back and forth,
and I'm pretty sure he's even made a video. And
I should say this. I was at the hotel when
(12:50):
Carl was making the video responding to Darren Till, and
I was sitting across and I was seeing what he
had to say to his own executive and I couldn't
hear it. So let's take a listen to what his response.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Were to do they give him money away here with
these fights, because Darren Till is absolutely fucking useless. I'm
not being fun here.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
I'm talking about a professional boxing level. At the level
he's at, he's done all right. He's got decent balanced throws,
a decent backhand from the Southport stance. But let's be honest,
It's be a mismatch, even at forty eight years old,
retired eleven years it's a mismatch. And I just think
behind the sharps had plenty of things. I just think
it'd be an easy fight and this might piss Darren
til office sees it, he might think cheeky bastard whatever,
(13:27):
like he lost the plot tonight and he just tends
to switch it on it the switch goes and he
loses the plot.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
He jumps over. It was on the top road where's
actually out front, and I was like, Hi, didn't be on.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Security, like missing around, like, oh, It'scared Well nonchalantly eating
my apple. And I thought, I can't get in the
ring because it's going to really look like one I
want to fight, which is not really that asked. And
two he actually bothers me, which he doesn't because when
you're a four time World Unified Hall of Famer, you
don't worry about people like Darren till.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
This is how Coral gets you, because the first part
he's responding saying, yeah, it wouldn't be much of a
I'd smoke it, which makes you think in his mind
he's entertaining the fight. He's entertaining the fact that him
and Darren could go one on one. But then as
he states, yeah, he was there in the arena, he
was on the first row. I remember when I walked
into the venue and I saw the chairs labeled I went, oh,
(14:16):
Carl Frotch's ringside. I want to see Darren Til Carl
Frotch if Darren beats Luke Rocole tonight, which he did,
went over to the ropes, called out Carl Frotch. I
just thought it was it was building to this perfect
crescendo where Carl was gonna get in the ring, but
fair play. I actually like the way he handled it
as far as not getting in the ring and not
giving Darren Til what he wanted, because Carl Frotz shouldn't
(14:37):
let Darren Till dictate how he does things. He's, like
he said, four time world champion, unified world champ. I mean,
he's a legend in the boxing game. So he did.
Like him coming up and being like, I'll take you
on is probably not the greatest look for him in
that case, in that scenario, But again I can't lie.
This one would be massive, massive in the UK eighty
(15:00):
thousand with George Groves. I know it was years ago
that was in Wimbley. They could easily do twenty thousand,
sold out easily and they would have the who's who
for everybody that says Misfits is a shit show and
oh we only really want pro boxing and blah blah
blah blah blah. You would watch that fight. Eddie Hearn
who is constantly talking about how Misfits is not pro boxing,
(15:21):
and he's right, it's not. It's it's a bit of
an entertainment show and there are some pro boxing matches
on it. One that I forgot about when I did
my breakdown ty Mitchell Sewan Henpill. Fantastic fight, but it's
different and all the people that are quote unquote sticklers
would come out for you'd see him in that front row,
especially in the UK, and the place would be sold
the fuck out.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Is not really a professional boxer.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Although he's having to go, he's looking all right, but
then he started talking gumb shot down the mic. I
was already out in the building. I didn't do it, Runner.
I wasn't scared for those haters. They're going to go
into comments and say I shipped myself and run off.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I didn't. I couldn't be asked with a bullshit. Well,
I'm sitting.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
There now on the one of the chief guys at
the Zone is it's a very respective broadcaster for proper boxing,
but he also do the Misfits, And are you saying
actually this fight would like genuinely have some interest and
some value.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
I think you probably know it does.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yeah, it would, And again I know I don't. I
know that Carl sometimes takes the piss right, and he
definitely I by the way, I met him this night,
and Carl's a great guy. Had a fucking hearty handshake
on him. He grabbed my hand and I was like, okay,
it's what a world champion boxer's hand feels like when
you shake it.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
He was.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
He gave it a good squeeze, you know, a pushing
a pull. Almost I thought he was gonna hit.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Me with that.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I was like, wait, okay, care. But the point is
this would be huge. It'd be huge, man. I just
I hope we really, I really hope we get it
because that's the best option for Darren Zill right now, right,
you have some other guys that can potentially come over,
like a Jorge mos Vital and box him. If that
would be something the UFC would be okay with him,
If Mosvidol would be able to do it, that's an
(16:54):
option for Darren Hill. You could have a Tyrant Woodley
come out and box daruntil Although so I don't think
that would go much different than the Jake Paul fights.
And then you have the thing like if Darren Till
isn't able to knock him out, then it's like we're
kind of just doing what Jake already did. But again,
who cares at this point, it's just fun fights to make.
But obviously the other option, and I would think the
number two option really could be the number one option
(17:16):
because I don't know how serious Carl Frotch is about
fighting him. Is Tommy Fury And listen, I know Tommy
Fury is a ridiculous man to negotiate with. The fight
was made Darrent Till, Tommy Fury press conferences, and then
Tommy Fury backs out because either Tommy can't make his
own decisions or John Fury is looking out for my
(17:37):
son and the best interest for heard them me and
they both sat there and acted like Darren Till was
really gonna kick Tommy Fury in the head if he
started losing. Not ever gonna happen. But having said all that,
it's still a big fight, and that's probably the most
likely option if they can figure that out. I know
John's talking about a warm up fight and all this
other stuff, but I think that would be a great fight.
So in conclusion, this video was a follow up to
figure out what the future is going to be for
(17:58):
Darren Till at Misfits, because right now it does seem
like he has options, but when you go deeper into it,
the options at the top of the list aren't likely
to happen, the number one being the one they want
the most. Jake Paul. Jake Paul will not fight Darrant
Carl Fronch. I'd love to see it. It would make
the most sense for Darren, it would make the most
sense for Misfits. Don't know if it'd make the most
sense for Carl Frodch. If they did it, it'd be
(18:19):
fucking huge. And then, of course Tommy Fury. That's the
one that's the most likely right now, I would think,
because Tommy's not busy, Darren's not busy, and they were
close to making it happen the first time. Problem is
Darren's getting better. Tommy sees that, and it's the same
argument I had for Jake. If Tommy were to lose that,
the Jake Paul rematch goes away, the KSI rematch goes away,
and Tommy has nothing else that would be it for
(18:39):
his boxing career. But that's all I got, Guys. Throughout
this week and next week, we're gonna be doing Canelo
Crawford videos as well as some of the Misfit stuff
as well as some of the Jake Gervonte stuff as
well as some follow up on the Rajah Jackson stuff.
And if there's news that comes out. I'm not sure
why he's still not been arrested. I have no idea,
but if you like all this, make sure you subscribe
(18:59):
and let let me know down below in the comments.
What do you think happens next for Darren Till Is
it Jake?
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Carl Fritch?
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Tommy Fury?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Tyron Woodley? Is it? Mike Perry? Is it Jorge mas Vidal.
I don't have those answers, but it's three and Ozero
this year and we still have a couple months left.
Who does he fight? Isn't on Misfits and why? We'll
have those answers, but I guess we'll find out
All right, so we are back on the way COSA
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
I had a blast on the road, had a blast
in Florida, had a blast in North Carolina, had to
blast in my return to Misfits, and it really was that.
It felt good to be back on Misfits. I hope
that's something I can continue doing. Spoke to ma'ams after
the event. He said, I'm welcome back whenever. We'll see
when that lines up. I'm definitely down to do another
(00:29):
Misfits and to be there more continually. But today I
want to talk about the main event of Misfits twenty
two and it's Winner, more specifically Darren Till, who just
left Luke rock Hold in Snoozeland. I know they went
out for drinks and had a nice time after, but
Darren Till put a left hand through Luke Rockhold's jaw
so fast and so many times. It was like Luke
registered for a dentist and needed a couple of check ups.
(00:50):
Darren Tann was all up in that shit. Now the
question is what does Darren Till do next? And the
one name that kept being brought up that I think
in another world could happen but absolutely won't happen is
Jake Paul. Jake Paul is not fighting Darren Til. He
won't fight Darren Hill. And there's multiple reasons why, outside
of the Javonte Tank Davis fight that's coming up in November.
(01:11):
We're gonna talk about that fight as it gets closer,
but today I want to tell you why Jake Paul
will not fight Darren Till. Absolutely not. Here's why the
breakdown let's go. But before we talk about that, let's
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Darren Til Jake Paul, this question was postulated to myself,
(03:25):
Tony Bell, you ma'am's Taylor night man cantop or should
I say all of us on stage after the night
was done and Darren Hill had fed sleeping pills in
the form of a left hand to Luke rock Hole,
and after Tony Ferguson had shocked pretty much all of us.
I mean, let's be honest, you did not think Tony
Ferguson was gonna be eat Salt Poppy and if you
(03:46):
say you did fair play, but I still think you're lying.
After all that was done, the question was asked, who
should darre until fight next, and I actually answered with
what I thought at the moment, which was Carl Frotch.
We're gonna get to him in a second. That fight
I need. I need Darren's Carl Frotch. But yes, I
I'm pretty sure or MAM's Taylor won. Brought up Jake
Paul and folks, I'm gonna tell you that fight's not
(04:07):
gonna happen anytime soon or potentially ever, and it's for
multiple reasons, number one of which, yes, Jake Paul has
Jervonte Tank Davis or as Tony Bell you called him
on stage many Tank. Obviously that's the next fight. Tank
for going defending his world championship and being an active
world champion to fight Jake Paul in an exhibition that
we still don't know much about. But what we do
know is if it makes dollars, it makes sense, and
(04:29):
that fight is going to make millions and millions of
dollars for both guys and again, as far as big
events go, Jake puts on some of the biggest in
the world. Speaking of big events, make sure you guys
watch Canelo versus Crawford September thirteenth live on Netflix. Your
boy's gotta be there and flying out next week, and
I'm gonna be covering this fight from all angles. Son
content going crazy starting next week. Anyway, we know that
(04:51):
that's what's next for Jake. I'm hearing talks still between
the Kisavderian and Eddie Hearn. Despite what people think, I
still do believe there's a potential that Jake Paul fights
Anthony Joshua in the early part of twenty twenty six,
and then as far as what happens next for Jake,
I truly don't know, but that right there is the
first part of this Jake's schedule. It doesn't look like
it's going to even be plausible that Jake and Darren
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could line up at any scheduled time for a meeting
of the fists between the squared circles ropes. That's not
gonna happen anytime soon. Number two, there's still a bit
of an issue between MVP and Misfit when it comes
to making fights. I think everybody knows this, and most
likely that would have to be the two people doing
the matchup.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
You could have Washerman involved, but we know that Nakisa
and MAM's they don't coexist well when it comes to
fight negotiation. Otherwise we probably would have had Jake Paul
Ksi three years ago. So add on as a number
two point that we have a bit of a negotiating
issue between MVP and misfit. Number three, there's no real
need for either person to do it because Jake has options.
(05:54):
I think Darren has options that we're gonna get into
because it's more of a Darren Hill video than it
is a Jake Paul video. Still, I think Darren has
a lot of options outside of Jake, and I think
he may need those options if he ever wants to
actually fight Jake, Like if there's ever a time where
it could potentially happen, he would need to beat the
options that I'm going to lay out in a second.
But Jake obviously doesn't need to fight Darren Hill. He
(06:15):
doesn't need to fight Ksi. He is making millions upon
millions of dollars doing these exhibitions with Mike Tyson Gavonte Davis,
potentially a pro fight versus Anthony Joshua, maybe a rematch
with Tommy Fury. I don't know what else, but it's
clear that Jake has already gone to a crazy level.
When it comes to options in the boxing ring, Jake
has a lot of options, some of which are the
(06:36):
same as Darren Till. I think Jake has a bit
more cachet, so he'd probably get more people should he
want to fight Carl Frott or a Tommy Fury or
somebody like that. He'd probably be the first option. Darren
would probably be the second because of the money that
would be involved. Number four, I guess if we're listing
them now, I think that Darren Hill is a lot
more dangerous, a lot more risk than reward. And yes,
(07:00):
that does mean I'm saying Darren Hill could be a
dangerous fight for Jake Paul. Not because I'm going to
put out there that I think Darren would beat Jake
right now, because I don't think that. So go ahead
and type it through the comments. I know your fingers
were itching to get on that D key and that
R key and you know what two words I'm talking about.
I'm just saying let's think logically about where we're sitting
(07:23):
at the moment. Jake Paul has beaten a ton of
MMA fighters that maybe don't have the skill of Darren Till.
And I'm not saying that Mike Perry has the Darren
Hill skill. That's not what I mean. I'm not saying
Tyren Woodley in boxing has Darren Hill's skill, because yes,
Terren Woodley in MMA did drop darre Until with the
right hand and ended up dars choking him and beating
him in an MMA fight. Comp different thing. We know this,
(07:45):
I've gone over it many times. But the experience that
Jake's had in the ring, the training camps for it,
the years and years in boxing now does, in my
opinion give him a leg up on Darren Hill right now.
I know people are saying, oh, Darren's gonna destroy him,
Darren's gonna kill him. Yeah, Okay, Darren Hill has had
a fantastic run in Misfits right now. But Jake Paul, listen,
I love my boy Anthony Taylor. But if the rumors
(08:06):
I've heard for years are true, Jake Paul was taking
Anthony Taylor to school insparring three years ago. That's what
I was here and Darren Till had a great showing
versus Anthony Taylor, but that's not something that really convinces
me and Darren Stewart, tough guy, Darren Till beat him up.
What toughness? Let Darren Stewart get back into that fight.
And Luke rock Hold, while yes, a tough guy, very
very tough to take some of the shots he took
(08:27):
and get back to his feet, and a big guy
and a strong guy, which does lend you to some
sort of ability to say, Okay, Darren Till can knock
guys out bigger than him. Let's be honest about the
fact that Luke rock Hold, even before he got in
there with Darren Hill, had been chinned many times in MMA,
and you know, bare knuckle as well. And by the
time he gets to Darren Till not gonna play the
(08:48):
whole forty year old game because that's not fair. Jake's
done that in his boxing career, but he hit the
floor a good amount of times and his skill was
not on par in the sport of boxing for Darren
Till even let alone trying to compare that one with Jake.
So I'm saying that to say, yeah, of course I would.
I would favor Jake Paul in that fight, but that
doesn't mean Darren Till can't beat it. That doesn't mean
Darren Till's not dangerous for it. Because what you're doing
(09:09):
right now, and this is what we've always done with
you know, the influencer and crossover side is you are
playing a bit of Russian Roulette every time Jake Paul,
a KSI, a Logan Paul, even now a Tommy Fury
steps into a boxing run because one fight could end
at all. One fight could absolutely destroy drawing power, attention,
(09:29):
everything a company potentially, Like if Jake Paul were to
get knocked out by Javonte Tank Davis, it is over
for any talks of Anthony Joshua or being world champion
or legitimizing himself in the sport of boxing. You can't.
He's one hundred and thirty five pounder. I know he's
one of the best in the world, but your two
hundred pounds or one ninety five on fight night and
(09:50):
you've been boxing for a lot. If he goes in
and gets knocked out by Dravonte Davis, you have to
fight like a Ksi at that point, you know, what
I'm saying, if KSI were to go in versus like
one of the Misfits guys and get dropped or get hurt,
you know, and or lose pretty much it for him,
you know what I'm saying, Like, the point is Darren Till,
for Jake Paul presents that risk. I absolutely think Darren
(10:12):
Till has enough power to hurt and potentially stop Jake Paul.
I absolutely think that. And I think if you were
to schedule that fight, seeing how seriously Darren Till is
taking this, seeing his natural skill for boxing, which I
think we all knew he had, there is an imminent
danger there. That doesn't represent the amount of risk Jake
is taking or the reward that would come out of it.
Like what happens if Jake Paul fights Darren Hill. Is
that a massive fight on the level of Gervonte, Tank Davis,
(10:35):
Anthony Joshua, Tommy Fury rematch, even a Carl Frost fight
for Jake. No, it's not because Darren Till, while being
a big star and right now honestly the face of Misfits,
he stitsn't on that level in terms of attention and
notoriety in the world. Just not true. And it also
doesn't you know, tickle the fancy of that other side
of what Jake's trying to do, you know, world championship
(10:57):
or fight legitimate boxers. It doesn't really do that for either.
So just didn't take any of the boxes. Again, that's
not a fault of Darren's. It's just a they're not
in the same kind of stratosphere right now. So Big
Paul's not going to fight Darren Hill. Now, with that
being said, let's talk about what potentially can happen for
Darren Hill next. I think the fight that you need
for Darren Hill right now is Carl Frodg Yes, the Cobra, Yes,
(11:20):
the man that sold out eighty thousand and Wembley, former
super middleweight champion. And yes, Carl's been retired for a
while now, since twenty fourteen, I think, and he's forty
eight years old. But that kind of makes this fight
a reality. I know that sounds weird and I'm not
you know, championing, let's all fight a bunch of old guys,
But I mean that's that's kind of what the crossover
scene has allowed for, is that retired boxers or retired
(11:43):
MMA fighters or people that are a little older can
rejuvenize their career or do it one more time, or
do something a little different, versus guys that were never
on their skill level in their primes, but because they're
age and maybe because their weight has gone up in
some cases or the sports change, it makes things a
little more even and we get a good fucking fight
out of it for the most part. This Saturday, Tony Ferguson,
in his forties, beat saw Poppy in his first ever
(12:06):
boxing match. Saw Poppy been doing that for years, and
it was a great moment, one of the greatest moments
in Misfit's history. I damn near cried when I saw
Tony hit both knees on the canvas and sit there
screaming out yes because he hadn't had a fight win
in six years. That was awesome to see. And the
principle of it, the principality of Darren Till versus Carl
Frotch works. They've been chirping at each other back and
(12:29):
forth for about a year and a half now. Carl
Froch is very much confident in himself and is a
bit braggadocious, and he has every right to be. This
is a former world champion and one of the best
from the UK we're talking about in Carl Froch, but
he also knows how to wind people up and he's
done it to Darren and they've been going back and forth,
and I'm pretty sure he's even made a video. And
I should say this. I was at the hotel when
(12:50):
Carl was making the video responding to Darren Till, and
I was sitting across and I was seeing what he
had to say to his own executive and I couldn't
hear it. So let's take a listen to what his response.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Were to do they give him money away here with
these fights, because Darren Till is absolutely fucking useless. I'm
not being fun here.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
I'm talking about a professional boxing level. At the level
he's at, he's done all right. He's got decent balanced throws,
a decent backhand from the Southport stance. But let's be honest,
It's be a mismatch, even at forty eight years old,
retired eleven years it's a mismatch. And I just think
behind the sharps had plenty of things. I just think
it'd be an easy fight and this might piss Darren
til office sees it, he might think cheeky bastard whatever,
(13:27):
like he lost the plot tonight and he just tends
to switch it on it the switch goes and he
loses the plot.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
He jumps over. It was on the top road where's
actually out front, and I was like, Hi, didn't be on.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Security, like missing around, like, oh, It'scared Well nonchalantly eating
my apple. And I thought, I can't get in the
ring because it's going to really look like one I
want to fight, which is not really that asked. And
two he actually bothers me, which he doesn't because when
you're a four time World Unified Hall of Famer, you
don't worry about people like Darren till.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
This is how Coral gets you, because the first part
he's responding saying, yeah, it wouldn't be much of a
I'd smoke it, which makes you think in his mind
he's entertaining the fight. He's entertaining the fact that him
and Darren could go one on one. But then as
he states, yeah, he was there in the arena, he
was on the first row. I remember when I walked
into the venue and I saw the chairs labeled I went, oh,
(14:16):
Carl Frotch's ringside. I want to see Darren Til Carl
Frotch if Darren beats Luke Rocole tonight, which he did,
went over to the ropes, called out Carl Frotch. I
just thought it was it was building to this perfect
crescendo where Carl was gonna get in the ring, but
fair play. I actually like the way he handled it
as far as not getting in the ring and not
giving Darren Til what he wanted, because Carl Frotz shouldn't
(14:37):
let Darren Till dictate how he does things. He's, like
he said, four time world champion, unified world champ. I mean,
he's a legend in the boxing game. So he did.
Like him coming up and being like, I'll take you
on is probably not the greatest look for him in
that case, in that scenario, But again I can't lie.
This one would be massive, massive in the UK eighty
(15:00):
thousand with George Groves. I know it was years ago
that was in Wimbley. They could easily do twenty thousand,
sold out easily and they would have the who's who
for everybody that says Misfits is a shit show and
oh we only really want pro boxing and blah blah
blah blah blah. You would watch that fight. Eddie Hearn
who is constantly talking about how Misfits is not pro boxing,
(15:21):
and he's right, it's not. It's it's a bit of
an entertainment show and there are some pro boxing matches
on it. One that I forgot about when I did
my breakdown ty Mitchell Sewan Henpill. Fantastic fight, but it's
different and all the people that are quote unquote sticklers
would come out for you'd see him in that front row,
especially in the UK, and the place would be sold
the fuck out.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Is not really a professional boxer.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Although he's having to go, he's looking all right, but
then he started talking gumb shot down the mic. I
was already out in the building. I didn't do it, Runner.
I wasn't scared for those haters. They're going to go
into comments and say I shipped myself and run off.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I didn't. I couldn't be asked with a bullshit. Well,
I'm sitting.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
There now on the one of the chief guys at
the Zone is it's a very respective broadcaster for proper boxing,
but he also do the Misfits, And are you saying
actually this fight would like genuinely have some interest and
some value.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
I think you probably know it does.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yeah, it would, And again I know I don't. I
know that Carl sometimes takes the piss right, and he
definitely I by the way, I met him this night,
and Carl's a great guy. Had a fucking hearty handshake
on him. He grabbed my hand and I was like, okay,
it's what a world champion boxer's hand feels like when
you shake it.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
He was.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
He gave it a good squeeze, you know, a pushing
a pull. Almost I thought he was gonna hit.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Me with that.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I was like, wait, okay, care. But the point is
this would be huge. It'd be huge, man. I just
I hope we really, I really hope we get it
because that's the best option for Darren Zill right now, right,
you have some other guys that can potentially come over,
like a Jorge mos Vital and box him. If that
would be something the UFC would be okay with him,
If Mosvidol would be able to do it, that's an
(16:54):
option for Darren Hill. You could have a Tyrant Woodley
come out and box daruntil Although so I don't think
that would go much different than the Jake Paul fights.
And then you have the thing like if Darren Till
isn't able to knock him out, then it's like we're
kind of just doing what Jake already did. But again,
who cares at this point, it's just fun fights to make.
But obviously the other option, and I would think the
number two option really could be the number one option
(17:16):
because I don't know how serious Carl Frotch is about
fighting him. Is Tommy Fury And listen, I know Tommy
Fury is a ridiculous man to negotiate with. The fight
was made Darrent Till, Tommy Fury press conferences, and then
Tommy Fury backs out because either Tommy can't make his
own decisions or John Fury is looking out for my
(17:37):
son and the best interest for heard them me and
they both sat there and acted like Darren Till was
really gonna kick Tommy Fury in the head if he
started losing. Not ever gonna happen. But having said all that,
it's still a big fight, and that's probably the most
likely option if they can figure that out. I know
John's talking about a warm up fight and all this
other stuff, but I think that would be a great fight.
So in conclusion, this video was a follow up to
figure out what the future is going to be for
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Darren Till at Misfits, because right now it does seem
like he has options, but when you go deeper into it,
the options at the top of the list aren't likely
to happen, the number one being the one they want
the most. Jake Paul. Jake Paul will not fight Darrant
Carl Fronch. I'd love to see it. It would make
the most sense for Darren, it would make the most
sense for Misfits. Don't know if it'd make the most
sense for Carl Frodch. If they did it, it'd be
(18:19):
fucking huge. And then, of course Tommy Fury. That's the
one that's the most likely right now, I would think,
because Tommy's not busy, Darren's not busy, and they were
close to making it happen the first time. Problem is
Darren's getting better. Tommy sees that, and it's the same
argument I had for Jake. If Tommy were to lose that,
the Jake Paul rematch goes away, the KSI rematch goes away,
and Tommy has nothing else that would be it for
(18:39):
his boxing career. But that's all I got, Guys. Throughout
this week and next week, we're gonna be doing Canelo
Crawford videos as well as some of the Misfit stuff
as well as some of the Jake Gervonte stuff as
well as some follow up on the Rajah Jackson stuff.
And if there's news that comes out. I'm not sure
why he's still not been arrested. I have no idea,
but if you like all this, make sure you subscribe
(18:59):
and let let me know down below in the comments.
What do you think happens next for Darren Till Is
it Jake?
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Carl Fritch?
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Tommy Fury?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Tyron Woodley? Is it? Mike Perry? Is it Jorge mas Vidal.
I don't have those answers, but it's three and Ozero
this year and we still have a couple months left.
Who does he fight? Isn't on Misfits and why? We'll
have those answers, but I guess we'll find out
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