How Important Is Beyoncé ?

This week Nyla and Mouse breakdown Beyoncé’s newest album Renaissance and some of the recent controversy that has come with it. Also we ask the question how important is Beyoncé?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's going on, guys, and welcome to the What hip
Hop Questions Legends and listen, I'm now someone and I'm
the man to put the jugs and juxta position Malsaw Jones.
And this week we're going to get into something I
have been waiting for for a long time for we
all have been all of us Beyonce's Renaissance album. But
before we get into it, we want to talk about
some of the hot topics that we saw trending. Started
with What's Khalifa? You know, Whis Khalifa really just minds

(00:25):
his business, drops his music, So I was really sad
to see him trending and people having so much hate
for him. Yeah, I think, uh, I think what happens
with somebody like whis Khalifa? When when you're like this
care free person, like everybody puts you in this box right,
like you ain't gonna like yeah, but like if you
like you don't even have you don't have the ability

(00:47):
to lose your cool when when you're that which is why,
like with me, I've always been very upfront with who
I am right if you see me right while on
one day just know I'm human, if I'm chilling leave
me alone as well. So I think that's the thing
with wi Um. Also with so to explain to you
guys who don't know what happened with Khalifa was I

(01:07):
think they were at Poppy that looked like Poppy to me.
I am promo and no clubs unless they paying me
to come. They were at a club in Los Angeles, um,
and I think he was doing a club appearance performance
because album I just dropped. And uh when the video,
initial video we see is him yelling and balking on
the DJ and the host. That's the only video I saw,

(01:27):
and I was like, oh my god, I've never seen
was so aggressive and like talking to something and I'm
mad he's mad cool slap. The DJ's had off told
him like backup, and they go back up, you wrote
in my ship he said, y'all fucking suck. I was like, yeah,
that's harsh. I would definitely probably never DJ again, or yeah,
I would never hold you the next night. Yeah I

(01:48):
love with That would really break my heart. So so
Um On Bootleg bootle caps Twitter, he posted other videos
showing in full context what was going on, which which
I figured what the was that the DJ and the
host were messing up his performance and as an artists,
as artists used to performing on stages and stadiums and arenas,

(02:10):
you don't got time for those kind of fun ups
right in and which is you know, I don't think
he thought about it. That probably probably been a little
bit removed from the club performances for a while. Maybe not.
Maybe I haven't followed his career that that portion of
his career, But um, I can see why he was
annoyed when I was perturbed, Um with you know, number

(02:30):
one hosting, When you bring up an artist, move the
funk out the way, the moment's not about you anymore.
Like I think people don't understand. I think people here
are hosted by and you in it like makes you
think you always have to create a moment. Sometimes you
create the moment by moving the funk out the way
and letting this moment exists. Um, but you know, far
bid from me to teach people out host. I'm just

(02:52):
the best host in America. Um yeah uh. And for
the DJ, you know, I think you could be more
of that. Like, Um, that's weird right that that I
would feel weird right my job in that moment if
I'm hosting the club. Hey, so it's coming. Hey, I'm
gonna bring them up, you know. At the most, I'm
gonna like perform with the artists are like, you know,

(03:15):
I like the song, don't you know? That's my let
me hear, get out of get out of this moment,
get my bag d Jay. In those moments you could
probably speak to that. It's probably a bit more stressful
because they send you the song you don't really have
time like two minutes before, and it's like, wait, can
you cue it to here? And it's like, my nigga,
you just sent it. I don't know your song like

(03:36):
that the thousand songs that dropped. But nonetheless, um, honestly,
I feel like I really can't speak on it because
I didn't see the full video. Well I saw it
looked like Wis was the asshole, so like, and it's crazy.
If it is the DJ's fault and the host fault,
then that's that's funked up because Whiskifi is a young
o G. Yeah, perfect way to put it go to
in this game, Like, I love Wis ImpACTA era rap.

(03:58):
You don't have shaped me sickly, So put some respect
on what Elisa's name and don't be out here being
a DJ in the host. If you fucking suck, that's
what what said, and I agree with it. If you
fucking suck, we should take that. We gotta use that.
We're gonna start using that atlet on the show for
like do you fucking yeah? But you'll never use it,

(04:19):
won't because what's your nice? No, I will like that
bread fare you fucking suck. That's I'm a bat fan
of bread. I'm a huge fan of brand, which is
why I could be honest. Now, Alicia Keys, I've only
looked at her sideways because let me tell you, why

(04:41):
tell you? Why? Oh my god, straight bullets up like
you don't. No, it's not it's even worse. It's even worse.
I'm gonna tell you my initial problem with Alicia Keys.
This goes all the way back to her second single
you Don't Know My Name. She watched most Death coming

(05:01):
there on his break in the middle of the day.
This is not breakfast is his break that's in the
middle of the day, and he ordered fried fish and
hot chocolate, and she thought that was the man for
her Oh my God music video. Yeah, he talk about
a man like that's a terrible coming man that orders Dave,

(05:24):
it's New York. What the exactly why you should not
do it? I mean he's gonna have to use the
bathroom in the middle of the video. Director not to
she said it on it's on that. It's on the
interlude when you come in you get to love and
who's that middle? Like? But you are ruining? Why are
you putting dairy in this? What if he's flattos? What

(05:45):
if he's lattos? This nigg is wondering why he's Oh
my god, this nig is in the bathroom. What do why?
He's curdled old like, what the fuck? Every time I
go there, she don't know what the hot chocolate? He
think it's water? Show man putting milk in this nigga?
You know? Well, I want to say something before before

(06:06):
we get into our main topic. There was another big
story that happened to this week. Um, I'm sure you
guys seen Mason's name was in the news on I
rather not talk about me. I don't think Macey is
a good guy, man, I come on, I just don't
think he's a good guy. But then you saw Fabio
brought the receipts that showed that he did get paid
five dollars in his contract. Yeah, I don't, I don't.

(06:28):
I just don't think makes is a good guy. Right,
I don't think. I don't just think. I just don't
think Mason Betha is a good person. And this just
shows it. This further shows are like the whole like
that that clip that that that that clip, that promo
clip for the podcast for million dollars worth of game
when when while when while on Gill like five thought

(06:49):
knowledge and he's like did he two point oh? And
it's just like make sure, just not. He's just not
a good person, right, I don't, And I don't really
have much to say outside I just don't. I just
don't see him as a good perse. So I wouldn't
have anything productive to say about Mason Betha. But it
seems like obviously his deal with Didd, he he talks

(07:10):
about how he didn't get no money under no Way
out tour, look man, bad business. Had he been doing
the same business and he's been doing forever. Um, I
think we get into weird, weird space when we talk
about Diddy, Right, did he gets a lot of flat
when it's been Um, it's been like it's almost known

(07:31):
at this point that in the beginning, or did he
was doing was taking the Arish to contracts and just
putting a bad Boys stamp letterhead on it. So the
same contracts everyone was signing. We're industry wide at that point?
Did he get the flat because he's black and he
was like the first black owned mogul on his level, right, like,

(07:51):
of course there was Us Simmons, But did he was?
Did he did? He was out there you, he was accessible,
he was at the part you could reach out and
touch that He's like, oh no, this is day. So
now it's like, oh, he did this and he did that.
You know a lot of these people signed bad deals, bro,
and you signed the first deal that came across your desk,
And sure, do do I think that as a black executive,

(08:12):
which I've never been, do I believe as a black
executive you should probably you know, be a bit more
attentive to the deals you're giving black artists. Sure, but
the same way those artists signed bad deals? Did he
was he was a young executive. He was just like,
all right, this deal is what we're doing. Bet I'm
take the Irish to let her head off put the
bad boy logo on it Boom, sign your deal. And

(08:33):
when it comes to business, people don't care about anything
but money. It sounded about your friendship. It's not about
how long you've been lowed to this person. I really
don't want to talk about it either, honestly, it's just
it's just weird. Right, I'm not an executive, but but
I'm also somebody who believes it's like somebody should you know,
if somebody's paying money out, they should be able to

(08:55):
recoup that money, right, Like, Oh, you know something else
I didn't want to talk about. Two is the God.
He's saying that he was heartbroken when he saw a
shanty um, but I was just confused. I thought, of God,
he was married. No, I don't know. I want I
want to stay far out of earth. You see us
on drink Chaps. Yeah, what do you say on drink

(09:17):
Chaps that he was heartbroken when he found out Shanty
and Nelly was dating. But it's always god like that
to think they have a chance. But do you think
he was buying away from heartbreaking? I did it like
I did that because he was feeling all was just
like like as a as a older brother type stuff.
Oh no, he was filling her. Yeah, yeah, he is.

(09:39):
Adds to the creepiness of it all. Protect black women
just adds to the creepiness of it all. Right now,
he saw a clip where he talks about that his
um he produced the DMX song. Uh, that song used
to be my dog, I was in your left and
then he used to be that was kiss because he

(10:00):
kind of wrote that. Maybe you suggest that he wrote
that line for I don't know. Hey, he produced mashes
and I don't I don't know, but that was an
interesting clip and I'd be thinking, like, I don't know,
I would like to see like a healthy man to
women dynamic where it's not un affair like we haven't

(10:23):
seen that down to like Barry Gordon, Diana Ross. It's
like I think it's I think it's rough in those
instances because you're around each other so much, you put
so much into each other. I think just out of
pure proximity. It's like relationship feelings started because you care
so much about this person. Success you end up caring
about this person. You're vested in this, Like you begin

(10:45):
like where you might look at this person as I
don't know, maybe even like in the beginning like a
little sister, and you begin to work so much with
this person and it's like, oh my god, I'm it's
so great love. You never had a chance catch catch feelings.
A little little meat bowl feelings came from. Yeah, like

(11:08):
that is really catch feeling. Yeah, I don't know you,
and you're saying I don't know frekently fre frequently frequently
he didn't cracking. Like we had a group called guys
and at the end of it, he's like, all right,
it was gonna cracking licking. We all went back. We

(11:28):
said we got another five minutes because that was nothing. Yeah,
I didn't want to and we're not in this conversation
like this. No. I was like, that would have threw
off my dad. No cracker, and let's get it pop
into our new are our main topic. We need a
camera on Darren for all these things. Yeah, why is
there no camera on him? Like he just a hide

(11:49):
I want him to have to stand next to this. Yeah, people,
when y'all asked us about that deep luck, go talk
to him. I don't. I can't. I can't speak for
his lingo interpolations or his lingo is crazy so funny.
I love it, but yeah, let's jump into it. I'm excited,
you're excited. I'm excited here, renaissances here, depending on where

(12:13):
you've been at in the world, where you've been, where
you live, your internet connection. It's been out close to
about two weeks now. I'm a little jealous that I
didn't get it first. Let you didn't listen to the leak? No,
I didn't even get the league. You're upset that you
didn't get the lead. Yeah, you want to listen? Yeah,

(12:36):
I wouldn't have shared it. I would definitely listen. Yeah,
I wouldn't listen. Who wouldn't listen if you get I
got the leak twice, and it's that right there. And
I told the person that sent a mess that I'm
going to block you. I'm going to block you next time.
Y'all send me the link so I can tweeter out.
I ain't gonna tweet. I'm a tweet out, Like damn.
I just heard this early and it's fire. Why your

(13:00):
tongue out? I don't really hit if you don't hit that,
if you don't come out, I'm not gonna lie. It
was a few times on this album my tongue was out, Yo,
I can guess what songs it is. Alright, guess what
song and I'll tell you. Okay, it was definitely out
with Church Girl out. Tongue is out. And then I

(13:20):
was saying, probably like a thirty pop, like a thirty
go ahead driving like a thirty driving that. No, so
my tongue out was my tongue would not? I did
hit a little back twrque situation, but no, uh, Coffet
coft tongue was out the whole time. Alien Superstar tongue
was out the whole time. Um, there's a moment and

(13:43):
I guess we'll talk about it later on in an episode,
there's a moment from Coffet all the way to about
Thick where Beyonce enters this fucking vortex of like this
musical vortex of like it's it's like heavenly. The whole
time I'm talking about the Virgos. What was that called Virgo?

(14:07):
I don't want to miss I don't want to mispronounce Virgo,
Virgo's groove and the transition from plastics off, plastical off
the couch to Virgo's groove, plastic off the sofa, plastic off.
I didn't really like Plastic off the Sofa. We don't
even have to speak anymore. But the only reason why
it's like I'll funk with it just because Sid producer

(14:28):
and I Love said, but I wasn't that one was like,
it might be my favorite song. That's your favorite one.
It might be my favorite song. Um, what we're talking
about favorite songs, right, So I'm gonna tell you why
that's my that It's it's between that and Church Girl
for my favorite song. Right. So when it comes to
um Plastic off the Sofa, it's like it it harkens

(14:52):
back to when it gives summertime, right, it gives it
gives summertime in both the the season feels like a
very summer fall in love during the summer record. But
also if you remember the song she did with ghost
Face back in the day, and it sounded very much
like that, it's this, it's the soft airiness and it's

(15:15):
just like the and it's the messaging, right, and the
lyrics she just opens up and she said love. She says,
I love how you feel like you could be a
self around me, self, around me room messaging throughout the
whole album. So it's just like it's this like there's
this there's this um, what's the word I'm looking for?

(15:39):
There's this emboldened femininity that she's in on Plastic Off
the Sofa, Sofa because she's talking about love in this
very familiar way to those of us who grew up
listening to a specific kind of R and B um,
you know, And she has this airiness and you can
hear you can hear all the influences. You can hear

(16:00):
the influence influences all the way from like the Denise
Williams of the world, all the way down to Sabrina
Claudio who wrote on the song let Alone, having young
Sid I call a young Sid, but having said, produce it.
You know what I'm saying, Patrick Page or the on
on on the on the strings, it's like, yes, Beyonce, Yes,
this is how you make an R and B song

(16:23):
of the of the era of the time. You utilize
the talent around you and you get this perfect song.
To me, it's a perfect song. It's a plastic off
this there's a few perfect songs on this album. Plastic
on the Plastic Off the Sofa is is my favorite
of the perfect songs on this album. A favorites Cofft Coffet.

(16:45):
I remember hearing Coffort the first time, didn't even get
to the rest of the song. That kept running the
back and it's just that boom boom boom. It's that
driving being like, oh my goodness, what's happening, what's happening?
And she just sounds like a I said it on
so I was like, she sounded like a Brooklyn nigger. Right,
He's like she's in the mood. Said I feel like
falling in love tonight. I'm in the mood too. It's

(17:07):
like yeah, yeah, yeah, it's lit outside, Yeah, it's lit.
It was very, very, very very pop. I feel like
I could have heard lizze it Bruno Mars like, I
feel like I feel like I agree. It just feel
more probably the least house music. It's super pop, but
it's house music, like pop is only right like outside

(17:29):
of bpms, right, especially today, when we hear pop music,
it is just like, oh what do you think everybody?
I like, right, like, yes, this is the song that
everybody like that is very much still a house like
that's still very that that that elements. Oh it's so good,
so good. Um. Also, now I already told you I'm
popping like a thought. I'm like church girl, what discussing

(17:53):
that juxtaposition, like only the juxtaposition of being a black
woman in America spoken about from a black woman. We
didn't have to have it, Ma explained, right. We didn't
have to have anyone, any experts come in and talk. No.
She she has this lyric and she says, uh, she says,

(18:15):
when I get in this club, I'm gonna let it
go and I'm ana love on myself and nobody can
judge me but me and I just every time I
hit that lyric, I gush and I sound like I'm
gushing now, but like that's how good this album felt,
and that's how good and it's it's okay. I remember saying,
when uh, I see at the Table came out? Right,

(18:38):
I said, when to see that the Table came out
that I've talked to you about this off air. It changed.
That is when everybody asked me, what was the turn?
Why do I fight for the quick, the black queer
and black women the way I do? After I heard
See It at the Table, something turned him. It was
like it was like listening to that album and it
was like listening to a woman explained to you, this

(18:59):
is we need, this is what I'm tired of. I
got that on this album as well, right, and it's
just so having their sisters. I got that on this
album as well. And I could just where there was
more trauma explaining and you know, a healing being done
on a seat at the table. This was fuck that.

(19:20):
This is hey, this is what it is and this
sound even down to heat it heat it, Oh my god,
like right like that line and there was She dedicates
to her her uncle Johnny Um, who she refers to
facing refers to as a guy mother told her, you
know about the very music she's making that influence the album, Um,
uncle Johnny made my dress that typespan that it looks

(19:41):
a mess. Or even when she says obviously you could
hear it. Like once I heard that, I was like, oh,
this sounds like something Drake would help out on. And
then you hear the lyrics, I'm like, oh, Drake definitely
has something to do with just to find out he did.
Um That line where she says uh with uh sounds
sound stretched most on My Tick seven Mind in My
Bids One Day Overrated Tuesday on My Dick, Fake Fake,

(20:02):
Fake You Flop that fake. I'm like, yeah, like hearing Beyonce.
I love. I love when Beyonce getting wrapper bag and
like talk like stop playing with me. So yeah, heated that.
That entire run heated. Uh, America's got a problem, Like

(20:23):
America has a problem. So you currently listen to the
What hip Hop Questions Legends and list will be right
back after this break. What what? What are your what
are your favorite I'm over here gushing like this isn't
a two person podcast. No, you're fine, get it off.
Beyonce deserves it. She serves all the flowers. I like

(20:44):
America has a problem because it has like that old
school feeling in it. I like Thick Its Houses. That's
one of the superhouse ones that and Break My Soul.
I feel like they're like the top two house sound.
But I feel like throughout the project, a lot of
it it's like ants electronic. It's also like afrobeats, Like
it's not just one all. It's like that energy, that

(21:06):
that energy break like sugar or spice. And that's what
she did with I love the way you actually love
the way you put that. He's like sugar spice, Like
she grabbed so many and that's why It's like, is
this the house album? This is just a fucking masterpiece
because it got too many sounds like and then we
get to hear I'm sorry, I forgot. We get to

(21:27):
hear like fucking Grace Jones beyond Tim's all on the
same song, I could hang you can hang me from
my big toe upside down, and I would be, okay,
you can hang me by my big toe upside down.
After listening to this album, I'm fine taking me out
this world this album. I sound like I'm gushing, I

(21:49):
sound like I'm doing a lot, but I'm telling you
the truth. I am. I don't think anything can surpass
this musically this year, and I felt that way. I'll
say this though off of first listen, probably buy Like
the third song, I'm like, you know what, I have
to train my ear differently. This isn't like a normal

(22:10):
Beyonce album at first, you know, like when you are
fans of certain artist, especially for so long, like Beyonce.
First of all, Desney Child's was the first album my
dad ever bought me in best Buy. The Wall Um
for them is White, Writing is on the Wall. That
was my first ever album. Then I remember when I

(22:32):
finally got a little money for cleaning the bathroom. I
bought my whole album, and that first one happened to
be I think it was like two thousand two. It
had just moved back to Maryland from New Jersey and
it was beyonce debut album That's How You Like It
with jay Z and it does my favorite one on there.
So I've literally watched Beyonce's whole transition. So listening to
this album, it's like, damn, this is really not what

(22:54):
I expected. Like even when Break my Soul drop, I'm like,
it was exactly what I needed, you know what I'm saying.
I love the like the transition because it's just a
breath of fresh air. I'm so tired of, you know,
bang bang shoot him up. Ship. This just makes you
feel good, especially in the time in America where we're
getting our abortion rights taken away and it's hard enough
being a black woman. So it's like just to have

(23:14):
an old to make you feel good and everybody can
feel good about it, Like it's literally something on there
for everybody. So anyway, now I'm look, look, but I
love that, right, I love that. I love that about
this album. I feel that although it's something everyone can
take away from. This was for black women and black

(23:34):
queer people. Well for it, I like just this was
chronicling and and and and and uh, what's the word
I'm looking for? Not infusing? What's the word I'm looking for.
It's like infuse, But it's like funneling, right, like everything
that is black women, a black queer just black that

(23:57):
it was this, Oh yes, And then the other line
I wanted to mention off of Church Girl because you
talked about how she talked about like dancers. Yeah, but
she says on there it might be the cash because
it ain't your face. Oh no, this is really what
she said. It might be Oh she says if you
spend a little, if you spend a little hard, and
she might let you swim in the water. And I

(24:18):
was like, that's hard the city girl, but yeah that
But then also it's like traditionally hip hop is very
misogynistic and she flip on Nellie's tip drill it must
be your ass because it ain't your face and flip it. Yeah.
He said, you know what, we're taking our power back
and it must be cash. And I just love that.

(24:38):
And I want to say this and I don't want to.
I don't want this to be used to like juxtapose anything, right,
I'm just saying this that's empowering. That is like it
sounds let me, let me fix what I'm saying. It
sounds that when I hear that, and then you know
how women be like, oh, we'll wrap about this or
we'll say about this, and it's empowering. As a man,
you're kind of like, is that empowering? Sure? Or even

(25:01):
like I've heard you say like is that really empowering? Right?
Hearing that flip and like now I'm objectifying you that,
I was like, I look like, thank god, I'm handsomely Definitely,
my face is my face. I spend nothing. And then

(25:22):
I was like I was like, no, no, no, beyond
Beyonce ruined the date for y'all, I'm not a lot
of your ladies. Yeah I'm dating. I'm dating with my
face these days. That is so silly that that flip
Beyonce did was really dope, Like that that has more
of an impact, I feel like than just then just

(25:44):
aimlessly trying to degrade men. Yeah. Yeah, like she could
say anything so like and I think she has done
that before. I think from Beyonce the album to Lemonade
to like I think we even on the card is wrapping.
I think we've heard her try and do that right
where it's like, you know, but to hear Beyonce fully

(26:07):
just embrace and I mean obviously we're just hearing the music,
but to see the world embrace her, embracing this what
I mean, and just by pure proximity to the space,
making an entire culture of people feel seen. Honestly, because
ballroom so much ballroom, that's a risk in particularly Alien Superstar.

(26:31):
The ballroom Uh Alien supers are thick, heated even um
uh like Uncle Johnny made my dress. That that's all
ballroom like, tends all look fake. It's called never decline
like that's all I'd like to stiff. I'm not getting

(26:53):
but I'll be trying to get it time right. It's
a lot, it's a lot. I'd be like ballroom for
those listening to are now dancing, Yeah, we're dancing, we're
going out. Um so so as we were going through
it right as as the three of us were going
through this, d Block says something that that I heard
other people say, and the kind of um kind of

(27:13):
hurting me, not what d blocks are just him acknowledging
it right, Like there there, there's there's this narrative going
out right now that you know, this album didn't really
discuss the day's issues, right, like not big world issues, right,
And it's like, you know, the issues of black women
and black queer people are big world problems, right, and
to bring such an eye on it should be celebrated

(27:36):
and shouldn't be like just passed off as like some
type of niche thing that's being done. Like everything that's
happening in the world today centered around women affects Black women.
The worse right, abortion rates, who's that going to affect
black women? Of the worst um? The pay way, the
pay gap, the wage guy. Who does that affect the

(27:56):
worst woman? Like all of this. So like when I
hear people say it's so ignorant, right, it's just it's
it's like it's like, hey, it's it's like it's like
it's like we just said before start recording, Like you're
you're kind of too taking that, you know what I mean,
Like taking that like you're you're like you have to
be able to acknowledge things that you have to acknowledge.

(28:16):
How like big this moment is right. You have to
be able to acknowledge how big this moment is. Not
just from musical standpoint, because I literally can sit here
and talk about every song and break down all day.
Don't mind if we do. We could do thirty two
part episode, I'll do it. But overall I'm saying is like,
just you know, the same way you have to have
a bigger, bigger ear kind of like you said training
your ear, Like you have to have a bigger ear

(28:38):
to accept stain music. You have to have like a
bigger a bigger palette to to be able a bigger
capacity to be able to hear this and understand how
important this is. Right, that the rights, the simple right
to live freely as black, queer and black women should
be acknowledged at the big world issue. Yeah, I say

(28:58):
to anybody who feels like this doesn't focus on worldly issues,
current really issues. But Beyonce did is give a voice
to the voiceless and like and just hope like she empowered.
This is an empowering album. That's that on that love it,
love it. But of course there's got to be some controversy.

(29:20):
What's a good album without a little more trying to
get misstarted this education to Lauren Hill had a controversy.
Girl girl, what can we talk about say so, yeah,
go ahead and say that. But it did though similar
issues kind of with the writers. You can't break my soul,

(29:44):
you can't you know what Beyonce did released the sample
Reap now honestly very classy, didn't make it, didn't make
people about it, just made a move. I funk with it,
So yeah, so what Noledge, I don't know. There was
originally a credit to Kalise's Milkshake on the song Energy,

(30:06):
which comes right after interpolation of Milkshake. Kalise tweeted some
shipp on I lived three times take a big video.
I followed, Kalise, I'm a big fan of coalis what did?
I still follow her? But she she just went on ranting.
It was like, you're not gonna understand why this that enitor,

(30:27):
but they know what they're doing for Rell knows what
he's doing. And that's why my whole thing was like,
I don't think she really needs to do this about Beyonce,
because you're really sounds like it's worth Forrell. But it's like,
I don't know. She She did a couple of videos
just bashing a working for and I was like, girl,
but you know I said it on when I was

(30:49):
on the news this past weekend, and mad people are
deeming me like Beyonce is always stealing people's work, Like
I got mad when you were on to what shutout? No, No,
I don't hear. You don't know what I was on
MSNBC clim that's my gang. Shout out to Tiffany d
Cross on the Cross Connection for having me, but not

(31:09):
people came at me like Beyonce is always still in music.
You need to do your research. You only said that
because you don't want to be canceled, And I'm like, no,
I genuinely think Beyonce is an artist and it is
probably just focusing on the art. She probably has no
idea that the paperwork or whatever wasn't handled, which honestly
it wasn't. But I really don't know. I don't understand

(31:31):
it that the paperwork was. And that's what I hate
about all of this, hate that people have the ability
to talk. God gave your mouth? Why did God give
you a mouth? It's like what the funky I told him? Like,
but I don't even I don't even feel like I love, like,
what's the do you guys look well? But just to

(31:51):
put an into that story, Beyonce has has now removed
Callie's as well as the words from Spas is different.
But but I know what I'm saying, wasn't that she
didn't say it And that's a different issue though, But
like so Palice to put an hing to that story,
oh I got under staying Clie's name is removed from
the album, She's no longer a songwriter. That sample or

(32:14):
interpolation is removed from that Literally was the greatest thing
Palise I ever did in her career and she ruined it.
Her greatest greatest contribution was to was to Energy and
now your name is now your name is anonymous with
milkshakee Plie is honestly a really bomb mass woman. Where
she funked up was just attack and Beyonce, because really

(32:36):
she could have got mad flowers for being a part
of this. That's why I think like, if she really
had an issue, it sounds like it was Farrell, she
probably should just hit for real. But I want to know,
like the back story between well apparently they dated for
and Plice data to the check is getting milkshake, not

(32:57):
for hers. That's what I think she was. But I
agree she shouldn't have came at Beyonce. She should have
dealt with that woman. A woman this isn't a woman
of powerment projects like this is just not the time
for this, Like, let's handle the speaking of other women.
Are Zelia Banks is also oh girl bye, No, we're
moving on, we are moving on. Wait, I want to
know what I don't want to know. Can we talk

(33:18):
about this off air? I do not want to give
that girl any what. No, absolutely not, although I do
get it. I don't know what she said, but if
she's complaining about has been in this world, she has
been making really and really, let's not play right. She's
a knitted but musically what she creates is genius work

(33:40):
for you know, she's been in this world, this world
for she's musically she's that girl, all right, So we
might as well just say no, no, no, we don't
have to say but let's not. Let's not. We've we've
we've done enough with people trying to get love on
Beyonce's name, alright. The only time I'm trying to avoid drawing.
But the thing is that the one thing that I
think that's important is that even if people do say

(34:02):
like she's beyond unquote steals or whatever, I think she's
a vessel of her influence. And that I think is
what all the greats are. Right. We talk about Diana Ross, right,
you talk about some Donna Summer, like Donna Summer. Donna Summer, right,
Donna Summer, somebody who stands out um specifically to me, right,
because Donna summers at what Donna Donna Summers. No, I'm sorry,

(34:28):
not Donna Summers. Just like Diana Diana Ross. There are
people that embraced that community, the queer community, black community,
like head on right, and they were influenced. They weren't
going to ballrooms, they weren't on the scene, they weren't
at they weren't at these clubs. But they hired Denial

(34:51):
Rogers and the Cheks and the rufus Is and the
to to to influence them. And what they did with
that influence wants was inspired all of our Uncle Johnny's,
the inspired the Uncle Johnny's of the world, who then
inspired the Beyonce's who then makes space for the up

(35:12):
and coming to tell Fars and the getoes and the
little nas XS and everybody else was about to come
from this and and and it's like, shut the funk up,
Like if you if all artists were only that's the
problem with rap, that's the problem with rap music, right,
that's the problem with hip hop. Our artists are stuck
in a box to only be inspired by their proximity

(35:36):
and nonsense that attend there only in proximity to lean
drugs bitches. Yeah, and that we see why we're losing.
And right, like I'm about get super esoteric, but not
really on purpose. But now we see why we can't
keep any hip hop legends past the age of like sixty, right, right,
that the fucking it's a little weird, right that you're

(35:58):
not allowed to experience anything outside of your proximity. But yeah, yeah,
it's all you're exposed to. But so now you have Beyonce,
like you had to die in the Ross and you
had your Dinna Summers and everyone else they brought they're
allowed to bring people into inspire them. Here, do this here.

(36:18):
I hope this really becomes like not just a way,
but like stays because I've always wanted to. I don't
think it. I don't think it stays because it's when
beyont who you gotta think about it, Beyonce at the
bar who did want somebody else? Yeah, And there's a reason,
there's there's a reason why Drake Uh named his album
um honestly forget it, um honestly, never mind. I think

(36:42):
it's because when out always wanted to send like Studio
fifty four. So we can, but we can. But we
can do that right, We we can do that right.
We can do that just culturally right and put eyes
on the music that's already been out, Like you said,
the Cape Nadas and in the the bungees her. We

(37:03):
gotta be careful with her. She might she might embarrass us. Um.
But yeah, I think I would love and I want
to I want to say this properly, so give me
in a minute. Um. I would love for more. I
would love for more six hetero people to experience ballroom culture,

(37:26):
but not to a point where we co opted, right,
because that's where things get murky. Just just you know,
it's like going to a club uptown where they play Spanish. Right,
we don't we don't co opted, We don't be we
don't be up there next week throwing Spanish parties. But
like it will really be. It would really be like
some six hetero ship to like go to a few

(37:47):
barroom events and now now now Nigga is throwing ballroom
events and it's like, whoa, what do you You're taking
away from the culture. But I would love for people
to experience that and understand it's so free, It's so freeing.
And that's what I really and for me, that is
the she says it on Fucking Church Girl, I was

(38:09):
born free. Drop the mic. You can also experience it
on the HBO show Legendary. If you don't on Legendary,
you can experience on Legendary, but that's from a voyor
that's from like a warrior standpoint, right. You gotta you
like even pose I feel like pose Um the the
ex Special all that you know with Billy Porter played

(38:32):
pre tel Um and MJ played um Blanca even Blanca
Evangelista and you know, just a lot of great performances
on their Dylan burn side. Um. There's just a lot
of great performances on that show, Um depicting the the
late eighties early nineties ballroom culture and how aids swept
through that community and things of that nature. This I

(38:54):
really loved this album a lot, but I think it's
interesting and this is not a world I know as
you know. As far as the black LGBTQ space, yeah,
it's okay if you just say black queer space. But
sometimes over the leg when you think about the history
of pop artists from Donna Summer, from Madonna to Whitney Houston,

(39:17):
Mariah Carry, Lady Gaga, dy've made remixes for this culture, right,
A lot of that stuff was always like, yeah, I'll
do this song and then I'll do a remix for
you know, the gay clubs. You know, Um, this album
is not remix you don't need you don't need to
remix the love letter. This is straight for that community,

(39:37):
not remixes. This is like, that's what I think is
really very interesting and just hats off to Beyonce to
putting all of her work and dedication into something that's
specifically for and it's not something we need, like, is
not something you need like a super analytical, nerdy breakdown, right, Like,
it's okay to like, literally this album makes you gush.

(39:58):
It makes you gush. Each song hits you, taps into
a different way. My favorite part of this album is
not so much the music. It's watching my peers, the
use that I'm talking to Nila, then then the use
the Silvio bells, the Scotty beams. Uh, Danielle Young. I'm
watching these people who we have all you know, we've

(40:20):
all met and befriended each other over a bunch of
other things. But you know, seeing these black women who
have supported Beyonce, you know, their entire lives, gushed about it,
their entire careers, um and to see to actively see
them inspired time and time again, just watching them talk
about all today's this is my favorite song, and this

(40:41):
is my favorite song today and this old girl, this
really makes me feel seen and a girl. I was
dealing with this just seeing that right Like, I'm one
of those guys. I'm one of those I'm one of
those people. It's like it doesn't have to be for
me for me to appreciate it. A lot of men
are like that. Although Church Girl, I co optimly on that.
If you see, speaking of which song you think would

(41:03):
play the best at trapped karaoke, I've played I've already
dropped coffing at like I dropped coffing like ten times
in Vegas. I dropped I dropped church Me and Me
and DJ Money dropped h We dropped church Girl on
Friday and literally l a prior to this album, what
Beyonce song did the best myself and I definitely goes

(41:27):
off myself. So I used me, myself and die in
the black Woman National anthem Um portion of the show,
and uh, you know, I cut the music and everybody
sings it word for word a cappella and in key
of course, of course, like how to retire it? How
to retire? We did this scut sketch on guy sketch

(41:50):
on guy code, a little of all. You know. It
was basically called, um, don't judge me, get better, get
well soon, a little douvo. Well haven't already? Make sure
you get your tickets to the Black Effect Podcast Festival,
going down August twenty ninth. I believe you're host nature
and I'm sorry and a little to all. Because of

(42:12):
his accident, will no longer be hosting, but we got
just hilarious we'll be doing it, so I'll be Djen
should be hosting. It's gonna be a vibe to get
your tickets. Oh wait, funny thing, I'll be doing trap
karaoke we're doing trap karaoke at the end of the evening.
At the end of the show, you guys, come on,
let's go. I'm sorry and I'm sorry. Yeah, I know
I heard you are. That's going to be super dope.
I love that my story, little Duval back to the

(42:36):
part of Beads we never talked about. I just want
to see that. So we used to just a segment
called don't Judge Me. Yeah, Duval said, he sings Love
on Top of the shower, don't judge me, So that
was the whole joke that he would. He admitted that
that's that's the song that he sings. The song wasn't

(42:56):
everybody got a guilty pleasure. That's not even a guilty
like some ship Nigga is a just being dumb, right,
some ship is just naked. Shut up the funk up,
Shut up, happy heart. I ain't gonna lie to you, bro.
I was singing Love one Top and shut the fun
We all sing Love one Top. It's a fucking amazing song.
Like you're you're not a fucking ally because you know
Love on Top. You're not fucking challenges social norms because

(43:20):
you sing Love on Top. You're now listening to the
what if I questions legend and listen. Will be right
back after the break, speaking up challenging social norms. Yeah,
let's talk about why are people mad about spas? So
apparently spas in the opening like the UK and Europe

(43:42):
is like, uh is is what do you call? It?
Is a slur to schizophrenic people like yeah, but we
from New York and we black. Everybody spall my mama,
spas my mom be So when the song he did,
she said, spassing on that, spassing on that ass. Yes,
spatting on that on that. I mean, it's like, damn,

(44:05):
this is art, you know, and it's up for interpretation.
The Bible says some ship some people be like it
means this, or other people be like it means that.
She says, spast spassing me multiple things. But so Lottle
to Beyonce and the classic woman that she is, and
she's like, you know what, I'm just gonna take it out.
But she had spats and she had to remove it.
It was me, I ain't gonna hold your It was

(44:27):
me I would have I would have went back in
the student. I would say turn it up, makee. That
should have Bridge it's people, you know, fuscular disorders you
can't control there, you know it's cerebral palsy, muscular disorders. Yeah,
but no one's talking about that. And then also it's like,
I don't know, I feel like we're just in such

(44:48):
a weird climate and culture because it's like, you know,
we have no she has no ill intentions behind it,
Like spatsing on that ass obviously means it does. It's
going crazy. If I'm being honest, it does feel like
another and here goes. It does feel like another like
arm or like it's like it's just saying like another
way of like white people trying to just control black spaces,

(45:10):
like for them to do it to not only Beyonce,
also Lizzos, Like Lizzo, she's sucking harmless. Nobody didn't bother
anybody like yeah, but there's mad like old country rock
songs for Nicks are talking about killing their moms to
this day, doing all types of weird ass ship. I
don't want Beyonce to remove because I don't think anyone
runs through and I don't think anyone combs through the
lyrics of white music like they do black music. Yeah,

(45:32):
you want to lock rappers up. How about you lock
up these fucking drunk ass country thinking people that talk
about should probably lock up any country music fan anything
one speaking of country music, except for Britney Spencer fans.
Britney Spencer fans. Britney Spencer is the black I don't know,
because I really don't listen, but I was watching Tour
Bus Tells, and the first season the Tour Bus Sales

(45:55):
focuses on like mad country singers, and if you watch them,
a lot of them are like really fucked up people,
like they did a lot of terrible things and they're
talking about it to this day, living freely. Their music
is not being changed or anything like that. There's more
fasted to white people being white people. Look at the
history books. The history books read just like Tour Bus Tales,

(46:15):
white people just wilding through history, never being held accountable.
If Beyonce got to change her ship and everybody should
have to change it, it's another fucking But I also
love their blow to how black women are attacked for
no read no reason, no reason. But also I'll tell
you this, tell y'all, fly beyond this here little I'll

(46:36):
remove it now what Still she's still still slashes. She
took kalise and spa she took She took Kalie, spas
and ass. Why do you laugh like that? It's so extra?

(46:57):
She took palise in spas off the album an album
that was from the gun this little covid gut out
of God. But speaking of Country, the Block said that
Beyonce is going to be doing album. This is a
three album roll out. It's giving d MZ word on
the street. It's giving DMZ. The plan is that supposed

(47:17):
to be. That's supposed to be an RMB album. So
so I've heard I did hear that, but like country,
I did hear that. But then I also heard that
the three acts were um album album tour visuals. So
we'll see whatever it is. I'm gonna I'm not gonna
lie to you. An R and B album from Beyonce
after this, I may explode. I may very well fucking explode. Honestly,

(47:42):
I want to hear the country one first, because now
that you're training my ear to different the different ship,
it's like, you know what lay it on me? I
want to hear it all. What's this country gonna sound like?
Because Charny did it with like d but the whole
album I don't know. I might like country, hey, and
I've want some mad genres, but countries want to I

(48:02):
just only the greatest greatest country song ever, Sweet Old
and second Old Town will come to the second, Old
Town will come to the second. We're gonna lie like,
that's not the great country naming a country song that
has performed better. Sweet. That's not diamond, Sweet Home, Alabama.

(48:25):
You should notice that's more like country rock. I think
it doesn't matter. The word country is in it, and
it's not. It's not diamond, it's not okay party in
the USA. I'll give you third, the greatest country song
ever made Tennessee Whiskey. Chris Stapleton, you're as sweet it's

(48:47):
Tennessee whiskey. You're a smooth What about some Johnny cashberry
wine you gonna throw to? Made it at me for
loving country? Johnny Cash walked the line bring a fire.
Oh my god, don't say that about Johnny Cash. I

(49:08):
think he said nigga. Al right, next topic, Steve, I
knew it, so let's talk about just quickly. I was
raised on house music. I was raising house. I want
to talk about that because in this we you. You
have like a you have like a super love and
affinity for house music. So to hear that you grew

(49:29):
up on it. The clubs were playing it when I
was I'm a little older than you guys, but like
just a late eighties, early nineties, you heard show Me Love,
You heard girl a House your Hold, you heard like
Crystal Waters, She's Home, and all that stuff you heard
all the time, and you heard it on the radio too.
I mean even like Bucketheads was was a came later

(49:49):
like that. All that kind of stuff was all part
of my musical lexicon. And nice. It's nice to hear
that making a comeback with Drake and Beyonce now and
just to start to see maybe hip hop open its
arms to these sounds, you know, and maybe it'll influence
more artists. I don't know. I mean I feel like,

(50:10):
you know, when I moved to Maryland, I was heavily
influenced by Jersey club music, which is similar to house music.
So we would hear like the follow Me and stuff
like that. Um And I always say this, DJ k
Swift is one of my favorite DJ the first female
DJ that I ever was inspired by. She used to
drop club tapes all the time. So we're gonna do
like this club music songs or we're doing house music. Oh,

(50:33):
mine are gonna be bought A club that followed me
song is great too, but I was about to say,
that's fart of mine following me and I gotta do
a non Baltimore one is gonna be k to be
your girl with tajer Moms. Give me a double thank you.
I don't know if he got in girl. I saw

(51:01):
a case. Uh wheezy lives at CA. You're not events.
I just want that to be known. She she might
be the biggest outside and bitch next time you want
vacation and don't invite me. We got problems, but it's cool.
So so are we gonna do our favorite house like? Well,
that's why it's it's a it's a tors up between

(51:23):
I mean, if I'm being honest, anything off the fie
might take the number one spot for me. May not
be the girl to ask I love. Yeah, I guess
those are mines too big. Shout out to Baltimore club music.
I just want to say dance my opinion with Riley
sucking Superstar by black Star, Um hands up Downtown by

(51:48):
Case Swift. Yeah, you don't want at me, and I
don't know any of all of them. Baltimore club music,
crazy hits. Honestly, one day I definitely I hit Black
Star too. It's like, yo, could I use your your music?
That be a problem. Just want to be just want
to be your girl. But so to me, I've always
been the two ends. At school, we're listening to the

(52:09):
club music. I come home and watch b et and
then I'm learning like hip hop. But even Kanye's Fade
basically took two house songs and put them together, and
that was you know, deep inside. Yeah, I mean it's
not the same. It was never around. It's just now
that it's forefront because our forefront artists are doing it.
I mean, I know I said that. I don't think

(52:31):
and I do mean, I don't think anybody else can
come with a project better than this. I think Beyonce
said and umificate you're not a record features Beyonce. Girl,
My soul left my body just net a little bit.
Maybe I don't know that something something noticed he better
not just do the song with Beyonce. But WHOA it

(52:53):
might it have changed. I'm sorry he could get radio play,
it could be a norm. First of all, I don't
know how to case you're not our teacher. Moses record
is not on radio to this day. We play fucking
played after break my soul. That's a transition I always do.
That's tough. That's the only like, don't give away to

(53:14):
all these secrets. Yeah they can't. They an't got the
south Our end, our question end for you know, we
answer asked a question. That's what we do now. Um,
is Beyonce the most important artist of the two thousands?
Who comes close? No one, No one comes close. And

(53:36):
then but the next person that is as important as her,
it's her husband, and the space between them is it's
like light years. Obviously, Drake has probably sold more records
and Beyonce's like maybe maybe, but there's no there's no
Drake without a Beyonce. You think you think Drake's not

(54:00):
influenced by Beyonce, You think like sales are everything Beyonce is.
It's it's not, especially in the day and especially in
days where it's as manipulated as it's you know, been
shown to be. Um, you know it's not. You know
you you you know you get the right pr You'll

(54:21):
have the number one album this week to you know
what I mean, like whatever I think you talk about
the impact of music, how many people feel seen a bar?
How many? How many? How many people feel seen because
of this music? How many people feel seen? And more
important than Beyonce inspires people. You're not in the same

(54:45):
they're not even compayeah. I mean yeah they are because
they're both music right, like the musical Drake Gott and
like I'm not even real Tom was actually okay, well
my point for she's been this way longer, way more skin.
I don't even think it's comparable Drake his class. Beyonce

(55:07):
is in her class, out of her class, definitely. I
don't even think. I don't think Beyonce's uh, I don't
think she's shackled to a class. That's what I'm saying.
I think that's why I say that two thousand Beyonce
will go down is the most important class all time,
more than Whitney, bigger, Maria, not even I don't know

(55:27):
we're talking about people that sell well, I'm just talking
about most important, most important right now. I don't know Maria.
Mariah cashes in every year, where all that more for Christmas?
Every single year she's going to trend on TikTok whatever.
That's one moment every year. She don't got to drop.
So just fucking Diane. So just Diane, Diane, Carroll and

(55:49):
Franks and they all have a song that gets played
during holiday season. That's what I'm saying. You didn't think
I knew about Diyane. I don't know. I'm not to
say that Maria more than I'm more than Prince. Yes, morning,
Michael Way, I think yeah, I think you are wild
and right. I think I think out of the names

(56:10):
you said, the only other pre as important is probably Prince.
If you're saying more than Stevie, pack you back more
than Beyonce, is more important than Steve in power right now,
this one album, this is nuts, Stevie. I mean, look,

(56:38):
she's up there. I'm not saying she's above. I'm just
saying that that because niggas just get carried away, like
all right, calmed down, and she's amazing. It's great, but
all right, she's up there with the great slip Mariah
like Whitney, like Stevie, don't do that. You can't tell
me what like if we break it down, right, if
we break it down, we go persent person on that list.

(56:58):
Mariah and Whitney are known for one thing, singing extremely well,
pop songs extremely well. They are some people's vocal bibles.
They are what you refer to what is a singer?
What is the pop star people think of? Which is

(57:19):
a bit which is amazing that you think of black
women when you think of like the epitome of a
pop star. I love that what is Beyonce? Beyonce surpassed
what a pop star was twenty years ago. She puts
her past that Beyonce Beyonce is not even just a
She's a generational talent. Bro. What she's able to do

(57:41):
outside of music is what makes her them. We said, what,
who is the most important outside of what she has
been able to They s most important artists of the
two thousands, Yes, but I'm gonna say the most important
artists of all time because what she's able to do
outside of music, how many people are and how many
people musically are influencing others and other crafts. Like right,

(58:04):
let's talk about our brother, Kid Fury. Right, Kid Fury
and Crystal they're probably probably top three podcasts ever like this,
we're being honest, right, top three podcasts. Ever, they don't.
You just look at their metrics, right. They don't use
they don't use video clips, they don't use anything. They
go on their podcast they talk a mass hundreds of

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millions of listens. Who are they talking about? Every episode
they find a way Beyonce? Who inspired them? Beyonce? Who
they going for? Beyonce? You look at the queer, like,
let me know right now how much the Beyonce cut
to check this look. I think Stevie comparison is interesting

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because Stevie comparison who it's political Like Stevie was social political,
you know he was. He had he won music that
brought you up, music, super talented, he uses talent, generational talent.
Let's not act like being All I'm saying is they're

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all in the same class of talent. I'm not pointing
one over the other. That is like, sure, I'm not.
I can't compare their talent. I'm comparing the importance, and
I think importance you can, you can, you can quantify importance.
I can't say, and I only can't say because I
didn't really live through the errors that we name before.
I'm just fans of the music, right, But you're living

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now and since you've been alive. Beyonce, we don't know
a time, but I do because I'm a few years
old in you. But but but that's why she's in it.
But that don't mean she's above it. She just in it.
I think I think it goes down beyond the most
important ARTI times I'm not more important James Brown, go ahead,

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and Stone, can you please stop if I have to say,
if I say all time, I'm saying all times. I
don't got no more tomatoes? Taking that? All right? Guys?
Thank you? Yeah, she's the most important arts of the
two thousand. I just want we'll say, but we're going
to debate? Is that debatable? I just want to know,
is anyone looking to debate that night? Lest of moan?

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Are you looking to debate? She's one of the most
important artists in the two thousands. I didn't ask you one.
I said the most. I told you my answer. We
didn't listen to your opinion to beyond Jay is definitely
one of those eminem Swift trying what are you doing?
What he was doing? Trying to set me up? He's

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trying to set me up. And I've seen it. I've
seen it. Coming artists who are not like there's a
big selling artists that they're selling, big selling. What what
do they do outside of selling? They had the last century?
We're talking about century Hunt. Those people are talking. You
said two thousands before, like two thousands. We're giving beyond

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the most important of the two thousand of the century. Yeah,
from two thousands until we get to two thousands, until
we get to three. Those people you're talking about, they're
not gonna Taylor Swift. But this is weird. I can't
believe you even said those names, trying to say you're
trying to set me up. You know, that was weird.
Those are big selling artiste, Seldish, that was weird. Kendrick

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is a big selling artist. Why didn't say Kendrick called
a big selling artist? I mean, we're talking about relevant selling.
I looked at the web page of the most selling
artists of the two thousands, and those names are up there.
This is the What hip Hop Pod? We said the
most important artists. But Darren, this is the what hip

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Hop podcast? And you want to talk about But I
was trying to get more names out of you now
because you said she's one of them. You see what
I wanted here? Who else is? Who else is close to?
Kendrick is out there? Um of that list, you said,
Drake is up there of that list, Adele, of that list,
you said, I would put a doubt on that list. Um,

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Drake obviously on that list. I've um Hove obviously. Um.
I'm trying to think, Who's I gotta like think and see.
Parrell has to go on the Pharrell has to go
on that, Kanye has to go on there. If I'm

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being honest, She's been in before these niggas. That's why
it's like, it goes to me, it goes Beyonce, and
then you have to wait ten years. Then jay Z
thn Kanye direct know you have to wait ten years.
She is light years more important than Hove. I love Hope.
There's nobody If you cut me, I bled jay Z lyrics.
You're not telling me nothing. But if we're talking about

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the most important artists of the two thousand and it's Beyonce,
Gisels knows Carter and he still wins because his name
is still on it. Kanye is a good one. Though
Kanye is the number three, He's a good number three.
But you definitely have you don't say. You don't say
who's the most important artist of the two thousands. You
don't say Beyonce, jay Z Kanye, you say Beyonce. Pause,

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jay Z Kanya, you take the beat? Did you disagree
with that? Well, guys, thank you for tuning into What
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If you want to throw tomatoes at me, you're throwing

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tomatoes that Beyonce. I just want you to know, if
you're throwing tomatoes at me this episode, it's because you
hate Bionce and we love black women. And if you
hate black women, is your opinion really that important? Until
next time, guys, Monday, We'll be back again. I'm gonna
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