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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's going on, guys, and welcome to the What hip
Hop Questions Legs and listen.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm not with the moon and I'm the man that
puts the jucks and juxtaposition Mouse Jones, and.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
This week we're gonna get into some hot topics of
what's been going on at hip hop. I hate that
term hot, Okay, trending topics.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Trending No, I mean it's fine, but I just hate it.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Okay, what one mouth?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I do? Think? I do things I hate all the time.
Damn like what women just play? It was right there.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
I just feel attacked, Like is it because I'm your
co host?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
You're a girl? You know? We charged for those?
Speaker 3 (00:38):
How you charge for throw?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
We get charged per throw, for tomato throw, per tomato throw.
It's in my contract.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
You guys are curious about coming to New York City
and going to what the fuck? When you look at
the prices, you're gonna be like, what the fuck? Because
they charge hold the turbos.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
In four years, I've never heard that joke, and it's
always been sitting right there. That's good, that was good.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
But let's get into topics there and what we got.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
So we've been talking about AI rap for a little while.
On our show We've last year we talked about an
AI generated rapper.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Last week with It's the Real, we talked about some
auto some sound alikes from Kanye and Kendrick. But now
there's an AI song called Heart on My Sleeve, which
is AI generated by Drake's voice and the Weekend, and
it's doing big numbers on Spotify and TikTok.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah, it's pretty scary.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I feel like, you know how like the Napstar air
came and everybody was concerned about the future of the
music industry because artists aren't getting paid. Now it's like
we don't even need the artists because we can disteal
the artist's voice and make a number one record on TikTok.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
This shit is hard for me to care about when
it comes to music because it's like it's like typically
what happened with almost everything right, Like some shit are
in that's really like could really pose a real threat
and real danger, and we'll be focused on like, oh
my god, it's it's given me dandruff, like this AI shit.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
And howard you say, dandriff?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, like just you know what I mean, Like it
could be like, yeah, like it's just some bullsh It's
like some real shit could be on the way and
we're worried about the surface. Right, So like with this
a ship, we keep talking about the music. I don't
give a fuck. I don't. I know, I would like
to think that in my thirty four years of living
and you know, my thirty plus my thirty years.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Oh side note, mouse just had a birthday. Makes you
drop a comment say happy birthday to Mouse.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Thank you, thank you, thank you. But yes, I think
that in my thirty years of loving this music, loving
music itself, I think I could. I think I would
be able to tell if real from a fate. Right.
I think the more the more important, the more important
factor of this AI ship is the fact that we're
(03:05):
playing around with fucking sky net right, Like we think
this ship is fun all fun and games like AI
is t There's there's an article out now this AI
system literally taught itself a new language, and there's a
bunch of other instances of AI learning other things than
it was programmed to do.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
That's what I'm worried about it.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
It's really about like we playing with fucking terminator and
I'm gonna be John Connor on you, bitch. I'm not
going out like this. So yeah, y'all keep talking about
this God, it's it's Rihanna voice over Nicki Minadra. I
don't give a fuck. I'm watching what this ship is
about to do to everything else.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
That's a good point, I will say to your point
about music, I think that music theory is dead. And
I think that you grew up in a generation and
I grew up in a generation, well you and I,
but I, being like the last, grew up where, like
you know, music theory was a thing, we're making.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Complete records was a thing, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Like records went from five minutes long where the beat
builds into the song, and we don't get that no more.
So these kids can hear some animated bullshit. They've been
taking bullshit and running with it and calling it a hit.
But now it's going to be even more easier to
make some bullshit and call it.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I call it a hit.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I think my concern for it, which is my concern
that is that I've already been at I guess honestly,
is just that the art it's not respected anymore.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Yeah, I'm gonna play a little bit for you. You
fine as lean, So you said that that doesn't sound
like when you say you hear it.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
So with somebody like it might be a bit more
easier to replicate because Drake he would.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Have more sauce than that.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Though.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
That's that just about enough.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Drake is so bland at this point that he is.
That's how he's able to maneuver through these different cultures
in these different sounds because he is so bland, like
it's just like okay boom that like that did sound
like Drake to me. I think the uh, what is
always what I'm always listening to now extra especially with
(05:33):
his AI shit going on, is cadence and tone. They
can't replicate that. You can't replicate certain lingo. You can't
replicate you can't replicate that. So so I could tell
after a few minutes, after a few seconds that that
wasn't Drake. But yeah, that means the initial instance, Yeah
you're gonna think that's a new Drake record in that
shit was.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
I would love to see Drake's reaction to hearing himself
that's not himself.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Well what happens like say you favorite rappers right, say
it's j Cole Feu Nylo or a jay z few Mouse, Like, if.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
A radio I know for a fact it's not gonna
make it.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
But if a radio DJ gets tricked and plays it
since we got the new Jay new showing Carter and
plays it and you get fooled into thinking it, do
you feel a certain kind of way.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
No, They've been fooled for years in this music industry.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
We've been fooled to believe that these songs are good
when you're not. And I'm tired of being the only one.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
So now the rest of the world it takes robots
for you to believe that you've been getting fooled, even
though you've been getting fulled by real people for so long.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
But it was say it is. If the AI is
putting out fire, you know, don't.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Be a part of the damn problem. Mouse.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
If the AI is putting out fire and the real
artist is putting out shit.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Oh that's the problem they ah.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Now, there's also people have been wanting draking the weekend
and get back together for a while now, right, and
they've been kind of having mid beef a little bit started,
like they haven't collaborated in a while. So I think
fans are like, Wow, this first time we've heard them
together in about ten years.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Yeah, I think it's fun, but like.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
It's fun for like fantasy football type shit. Yeh, like
oh what would this sound like? And I think like
if we made a space for that, that would be cool. Yeah,
like made a space for like okay AI exists because
we're like what would this sound like?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
So it's like it's own world.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah, like what would this sound like over here? But
like you know, I think it's a bit.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
And also I think as far as like AI records
going up and stuff like that, my thing is like
what I listen to music for aside for relatability is
maybe like admiration. But it's cool to like follow people
in their stories. So like if an AI person is
just making a hit because it's a hit about nothing
a person, well yeah, I mean like they're making a
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Drake song like or like whoever they're imitating. It's like
the reason why Cardi B shit was so dope because
Cardi B like we were watching her story and then
she put it in Bowdag Yellow and we're like she
really did that. AI person can't like a story. Yeah,
AI doesn't have a story, So that's where they will lose.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
What if the shut up? You know, they're they're growing,
they're getting smarter.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Now, they're going to have stories if they're like started
off as an MPC, I started off as a game
Boy color No Niggas never thought I would make it, started.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Off as a PS five no started as a game.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
I really, I really would love to see like Kendrick's
reactions to hearing him bag Drake's reactions and hearing his
AI version, like, how do they feel about it?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I'm telling you if niggas he his AI version.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Universal music is trying to show Drake fists.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah, the universe stop playing with us. But that's what
the artist is say. Do you ever see that movie
Her Yes, where Phoenix an Any falls in love with
like the AI. Yeah, it's a six sick world.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Oh sounds like Black Mirror.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
He has like likes like a serie voice in his
head that organizes his schedule, does all this stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
And then he ends up falling in love with the
voice that gives him the schedule.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
How are you doing today?
Speaker 4 (09:21):
His Alexa, his everything. He falls in love with her
and then she kind of puts herself into another female's
body so that he can she theoretically falls in love
with him. It's it's crazy complicated.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
In case that the movie, you should watch it?
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, not my cup of tea.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Okay, no, check it out. I'll check it out, all right.
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Speaker 4 (09:56):
Other hot topics we've we've spoken about female rappers on
the show since season one.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yes, and are they still rapping?
Speaker 4 (10:09):
And I'll say this, I think last year was a
little bit of a quiet period for female rappers. But
right now I feel like they are owning twenty twenty
three so far, at least owning the headlines. And this
past week we've seen a lot of female empowerment. On
one side, I don't think.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I don't think a unity unity. I don't think any
year has been I don't only any year for the
last five or six years has been a quiet year
for women, especially not last year unless you're talking about
like what releases. I think, because we're in twenty twenty
three now, like the world'll come.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Back around to that. But for instance, Ice Spices creating
a lot of buzz, a lot of headlines. She started
last year, but she's starting to really crossover become a
Z one hundred artist whatever. She just teamed up with
Nicki Minaj dropped a video for Princess Diana, a.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Lot of person Diana remix, remix, a lot of ass video.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Yeah, at the end there's a lot of Nikki touching
her ass video.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
That's regular.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
What you guys think of them. There's a lot of
talk about the queen and the princess, I mean, Jicky
being the queen and.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
The princess queen no more. I think that's I think
that's like when that's just giving an ode to your og,
which I'm not one thousand percent I'm not mad at that,
but it's it's not like the queen never has to
say she's the queen. M Like, you know, fuck that lady,
she's going there. But like, I don't think she was
(11:35):
walking around saying I'm the queen. You knew for we
knew for decades and century she was the queen. We
knew that same thing, like the people the one saying
I'm the queen, I'm the queen, I'm the queen, you
not the queen.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Sure, I think the smart thing about what Ice Spice
is doing right now is that she has two songs
on the radio. One's a pop hit with boys a
liar that that's kind of straight from pop charts, and
other her the Princess dianasangs just all verses. There's no
real hooking it, and I think she's doing that old
school way of something for the streets, something for.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Making you think she's doing it well.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Her brand, her brand is doing it.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Her doing it. Shout out to the marketing and team.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
As far as like the Princess and the Queen thing, again,
I just feel like Queen Lativa said it, I call
myself queen, but I'm not the only queen. Kims the
queen like, they're all queens, and I think from a
person to person level or women's women level, I think
that's a fair statement to say.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
But as far as like Princess and who got the Crown?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Right now, I feel like all the new girls are
still all in the running, Like none of them have
really put out enough catalog to really say that they
earned the crown.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Who We'll come back to that crown crowning and stuff.
But also over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Oh no, because he haf been in puffing over here
the crowd.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Spice has not put out, she hasn't proven.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
We're gonna say that, then there should be Doja cat or.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
So then what Dose and Meg?
Speaker 3 (13:07):
We're going there?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
What you just had the Princess?
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Do you think those Mega found for Queen? I'm saying
Queen is already established it.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Cardi, but I'm saying so then, but Dojah and Meg
are etching at that?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
You think Cardi still has a crown after she never
lost it? Has to put out an album, you don't
have to.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
But the last thing she put out was what dominated like? No,
one's like, stop playing what like?
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Doesn't Nicky have more heat now than Cardi?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
No, she just put out more verses. That doesn't mean
she had more the last.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
I do like this Red Ruby record. It's been a while.
That's a that's a good, but it's.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Still not the whole record isn't better than the Tomorrow verse?
M Tomorrow versus literally tomorrow tomorrow verse? Literally? Is keeping
glow really relevant to drag so much? Alright? There's no
there's no there's no tomorrow. There's no tomorrow verse. Cardi
(14:06):
doesn't have a Tomorrow verse? Are we still playing Glorilla, yea,
all right? And what else that money Yeah, I thought,
yeah the joint with money bag. Yeah yeah, I know,
all right, but what but we know for sure what
we're playing, Like, oh, you bitch is pussy? I think, yes,
your sister.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
There was actually speaking of female unity. There was a
lot of female unity at Coachella.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Shout at Docella, DJ Miss Milan, shout to do shout
to Docello. The body that.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Ship Glorilla brought up. I mean, Glorila, I had a
little Gangstaboo unit like a performance that was dedicated to her,
which was nice. A lot of during her performance, she
brought out Lola, Lola Brook Sweetie, and uh what else
experience Tia koreing.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah, I mean I think it's cool, like this is
supposed to be fun, Like I have fun when I
come and talk to Mouse about what he thinks and
how he feels, and you know, even though I don't
necessarily always agree, you don't have to put that in
and you don't have to yeah, but it's fun. So
I like to see the girls having fun too, like yeah,
I know my step pull up, Like I think that's
(15:26):
how it's supposed to be.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
I love It also brought out Mona Leo. That's someone
that was a girl. Yeah, that was your girl.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
I love Mono.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
She's pregnant now, huh.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
So I don't like I don't like them.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
To do that.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
I really hate the way that like transition of that conversation. Yeah,
mos girl, yeah girl. So I am a fan of crazy.
I love the range the young lady has. I did
not know she was pregnant. Congrats to her. It's just
(16:04):
there's enough dirt on my name, let's not at anymore.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
So at the end of Lotto's performance, yeah, there was
some stuff that she was saying, she's sick of the subtweets. Yeah,
some people saying I was directed at Nikki. Yeah, what
do we think about that?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Call these bitches out. I love to rap girlies rapping,
call these bitches talking.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
About a lot of a lot of than ver said
she was.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Yeah, I think that the subliminals were very subliminal.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
You know, like, who was to say it was that Nikki?
It was so subtle.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
No, it's it was that nik It was very it
was very subtle. And I feel like the Internet is
always trying to create a narrative to have girls.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Beefing against you have everyone beefing against each other. I
don't think it's that. I no longer think it's so
pointed as like, oh, let's get the wind beef on
each other. I think it's everyone, right, everyone. What you're
seeing this shade room asks people dedicated to follow like
watching people following other people. How do you think that
(17:06):
always gets posted? Oh, such and such as and following
such and such anymore.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
That's ridiculous, keeps me, keeps me in the in the loop, silly. Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I mean, if she is throwing shots, I definitely would
still like to hear, like, you know, a freestyle.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Yeah, Like I would still like to hear that. I
think it's not too late.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
But she did that. I think her verse on her
verse one don't play with it. I felt it was
a little nikky.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
And so that's what we're just gonna keep doing and
just keep sending the subliminals. And I feel like the
build up had already came and that was.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
A beautiful time and rat think about it, jay Z
disc Mace and when like the slow I like the
slow build like this, I mean, I love a Beanie
Siagull Jada kids straight to it where Max Jam, Easy Funck,
Jada Kis. I love that. I love when Jay and
(18:03):
Nas was But I also love when told me she's
always been He said, look at your videos, You'll always
be number two.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
But we don't know who else Lotto might have some
issue with, you know what I mean, Like Nikki. I
think that first one was about Nikki. That second one
I don't know because then don't play with it one.
I couldn't really pin it to Nikki, but that that
her comment about she wanted me to kiss her ass.
That was definitely about Nikki, I feel like, but everything
else I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
If he's giving Nikky.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
I'm a big little fear her finance. So what I'm
team lottel Oh, God, don't take much of me. Don't
take much.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
I will say this. Lola Brooks, she came out, rocking out.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Don't play with it when Lotto always come, I mean
a lot of Lola always comes.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
One thing. And I've been watching her. I've been watched
her perform that record since there was like ten people
in the room, like and it's always been the same manage.
It's always been.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Always been running always.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I mean, well, you know, as much as you can
on some of them stages coming up. But like I said,
I've watched her perform that record and worked that record
like and it's been it's been the same energy. She's
never this is not no oh yeah, we took over
here and got it right. Whatever artists in development development
they're doing with her is on wax. She's always had
(19:18):
stage presents.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
That so in some though, Now, let's I got the
feeling you come from a place like there's room for everybody, yeah,
versus cool by trying to shut up, whereas Mouse comes
from the wwe you gotta have a belt crown off with.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Yeah, Mouse is more off with your head, and I'm
more like, let's.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Just I love competition. Why not? Why are you scared
to compete?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
I think competition is cool? Or but it don't got
to be off with your head.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
That's competition. It's competition.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
You don't got to be off with your head?
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Why not? Oh lord, if you're in the space.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Off with your head to me is war.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Yes, So I'm not gonna be friends with you if
it's war, because Nigga is war.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Okay, So let's flit it. There's war in this competition.
In competition, I have to win. So we have peers,
but I want to be doing better than all my
peers at our job. So if we're up for the
same job, if somebody looks and says it's a mouse
and this person, I want you to hit them. Wu
(20:27):
tang swars.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
War.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
That's not war. War is I don't like you and
and now I don't want you to win. I've went
to war with people in one so so check the
status we're up. They retired. But I've gone to war
(20:55):
with people right, and it was based on I want
to win because I don't like you. Now it's with competition,
it's I just want to win. I just want to win.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Okay, that's fun.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
I'm not afraid of war. By the way, if we
want a.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
War, yeah, I'm not afraid of either one. But I
will say, let's take it to war.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
The minute it goes from like if I'm in warmo,
I'm not in friend mode.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
And that's fun.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
And the two don't mix.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
I don't think you should be going to war with friends.
The friends should be able to compete.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Two don't mix.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
For me, yeah, we could compete, but if it's war,
we are not friends.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
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Speaker 4 (21:39):
So we've spoken about AI, We've spoken about what's happening
with female rappers right now. I also want to mention
shift Gears a little bit. We're one third through through
the year, or in April? Has there been one good
hip hop album? Put out one very good hip hop wait?
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Let me see what is just.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
The quietest year in hip hop so far?
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (21:59):
My god, Jesus Christ, d block Jesus Christ.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Last year at this time, Push your Tea put down
the albums. So did Future, so did Jack Harlowe. We
had Kenji coming in May, Like where are the albums?
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Wait? We did have a lot of hip hop albums.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Last year metro Booman put out album that was good.
This year Katie three, Yeah, this year, Kati three was
this year Katy three was in February.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Oh, Larry Alchemist put out a great project, come on great.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Or it's been out for five seconds?
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Like come on, I like it?
Speaker 2 (22:30):
You like it? Five seconds? It's been so what.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Future dropped on Thursday? That Friday? You're like the King
this album is done. Great, Doctor King is bad.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Notable hip hop albums have come out so far metro
Booman's compilation, which had a lot of cool singles.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
This guy is just full last of today.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
You are just so Tickledy put out an interesting album
hip hop.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
It wasn't so don't bring it in here just because
he black on me.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Hip hop d block he said hop.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah, but the album album is not hip.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Was a little out there, a little pink floydish.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Why are we saying kind of a little completely all right?
Speaker 4 (23:08):
So that has there been any good hip hop albums
released this quarter?
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yes, there's been good hip hop album but like, uh,
nudy nudy drop, Okay, Ice Spikes drop h what else?
Young boy drop yeat drop.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
He did drop Ruben Vincent also dropped.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Ra Race, Shrimmer drop, hit Boy drop. Well that's the
one not know his own Helot just dropped Drama.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Just dropped drama, always dropping.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
No, he dropped his own. Yeah, but that was good.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
He dropped three.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
That was that was his or like drama. You know
what I'm saying. He dropped the whole album.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
The point is music has dropped, but we're not seeing
I guess the ones from the big like the big ones,
is that you're looking for.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Big names, but also even if it's new names, stuff
that's breaking through as far as.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Well and oh Don Tolliver Drop Don Tolliver might have
the best album of the year so far.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Are we gonna even well?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Also, do we're not count Deluxe's No? Okay, I was
about to say, Tyler shut this ship the fuck down, dude,
we didn't even handle discussion because Tyler came back to
the fucking five extra records.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
I mean, this might be just an issue of the
albums not being Like we talked about this before. Our
albums aren't the big thing anymore. It's about the singles
and it's about other ship.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
No, that's not what I think is going on here.
I think's going on here is we had We are
trying to microwave Sunday Dinner. So last year album wise,
we got Sunday Dinner. That takes a while to digest.
You're not gonna get that every year. So I think
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in trying to fast fastly manufactured the same thing we had, no,
we should still be able to appreciate last year's albums.
Think about it, These artists are still on tour from
these albums, they're still you know, going to these festivals.
There needs to be a space where we can appreciate
an album for two to three year space and still
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pay attention and love and appreciate the singles from the
people in between. But like, like, yeah, I don't. I
don't agree with that statement saying, oh, this is quite
a year for hip hop. These albums from last year
are still making noise. You still got you, still got You,
still got Tyler, And I'm talking about either got Drake,
I meany you still got Drake in twenty one? Still great?
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You still got Tyler, still got Vince, still got Yeah.
Literally last year he's dropping something else. You're right, he
dropped something else. This year you still got all these
and these are things that are hidden, hitting, hitting, still
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still impactful. So yeah, I don't. I don't like that.
I don't. I don't like that term that this is
a quiet year for hip hop.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
No, it's just I would say the biggest one hip
hop for this year so far says it's been.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
She rapping on it. That is hip hop.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
That's not hip hop, Bro, that is not hip hop
because she rapped on one song but not making.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
It's not a hip hop artist. No, she's hip hop.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
She's hip hop.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Is going on here an R and B? No, let's stop.
I would like his is not hip hop? Can we
say that she is not a hip hop artist?
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Fine?
Speaker 2 (26:45):
No, I need to hear you say that.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Bye, So Miseducation of Lauren Hill was oh my god.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
First of all, mis Education of Lauryn Hill is not
a hip hop album.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Okay, so okay, tomatoes, tomatoes will coming in.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
It's still not a hip hop that she's a hip
hop artist. But that is not a hip hop album.
She sung R and B on that grow Up but
grow Up. We're not going to compare the structure of
the mis Education of Lauren Hill to Scissors S O S.
That is an alternative R and B album. You can,
however you want to deal with this conversation on your
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other show. No, we had this conversation before. Yeah, and
I was like, I said, and I think you guys
at text me, but I'm now min attack.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Yeah, nigga, y'all did that hip hop is R and
B and rapped together.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
That's not You're wrong, that's not it. How did you
just remake hip hop? How did you remake hip hop.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
When I think of hip hop, I think of like
someone like Mary J. Blige. She's hip hop.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Why do you think she? So? Hip hop is the umbrella, right,
So that is the reason why they call it of
R and B. So you can have a hip hop attitude.
I guess that's Mary J. Blige. And you get your
you get your BBD. That's what they literally said. It's
R and B. It's a hip hop mintent with the
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R and B smooth aut on an R and B tip.
That's what BBD used to say. And then you have
Mary J. Blige, the queen of R and B hip
hop soul. She's not a vitival sister, does not exude
hip hop. That's that she's a She's a beautiful black
girl who to me exudes the opposite of any label.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Her name is from Rizza and Jizzi. That's a hip
hop name.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Okay, of course you would have the random wute what
I want.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
So let me ask you this mouse just to play
Devil's advocate, Tony Braxton R and B artist, Yes, Mary
J Blige R and B artist, even though she's so
different from Tony Braxton RB.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Now she is R and B artist when she rapped
her even when she rapped her name, wasn't Mary J.
Blige just Brooklynn?
Speaker 4 (29:05):
So sure R and B artist, Yes, I think, Okay,
I'm trying to think about the R and B males.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Wait hold on, yeah, about to piss on this podcast.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
I personally, I think, to me, hip hop is a
culture lifestyle, but underneath it musically is R and B.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
No R and B. And that's the problem. And that's
why R and B gets snuffed out because you keep
trying to people have been for the last fifteen years
have been misrepresented, miss genreing it. Stop putting R and
B underneath hip hop. R and B lives here. This
is R and B music and this is rap music.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
So Scissors Album is an R and B album.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
I think it's all I understand. I think it leans
more alternative.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
I don't think alternative to like three records at.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
The end, alternative like neo soul.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
No alternative like listen, A lot of a lot of
more said not Avri Lavine.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Know that song f t F is very.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
F f F is my favorite. It's still my favorite
song of the year.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
Have you seen the show?
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Not yet. I was supposed to go see the Vancouver
show and had a tour date. But you will do
a pole again. You got your ass candid to you
on the pole.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
That was That was initial reactions, everybody said Biggian through
the comments.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Through the comments, while.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
People were like low key Markman, Rob Markman had your
back on comb.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Rab Also Rob also champions those dose your cat as
a rapper? Okay, anything anything. Rob Markman says, it's question,
but this is R and.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
B and rap hip hop? Or is ARM R and B?
Speaker 2 (31:02):
No? No, go ahead, keep going, No, no, keep on
put your fail.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Let's take it from the top and see the pole
one one time.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Don't fix it?
Speaker 3 (31:10):
No, what is yours? That's what I'm saying. Why is that.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Not a hip hop artist as well?
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Maybe maybe is a hip hop artist? Or is she
strictly R and B.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
I don't think she's strictly RMB either, but I don't.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Want Maybe it's a three. Is she hip hop? Is
she R and B? Or is she both other?
Speaker 2 (31:31):
She's the other?
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Why she can't be both?
Speaker 2 (31:33):
She can be, but that's just not her?
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Why well both would be other?
Speaker 2 (31:38):
No, both would be both? Something completely different?
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Is she hip hop? Is she R and B?
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Is she both or is she other? I think she's
the other the other.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
All right, guys, here, no, you go ahead and we're
back again with another pole.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
The hip hop artist R and B artists both are
both for so there's.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Four options to me.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
I think she does R and B, but she's under
the hip hop umbrella, he said, absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
There's no label that has been created that I think.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
I don't even think it's about what.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
That's a label you just gave me. You just gave me.
Hip Hop is a label. You just gave it a label.
Don't try and change it now.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Hip Hop is a culture, That's what I said, right, And.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
By saying she's hip hop, you labeled her.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
I feel like I'm a part of hip hop, but
I'm not labeled.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
You just labeled yourself.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
All right, But yeah, no, drop a comment below. Let
us know what do you guys think Sissa is.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
I'm gonna say that hip hop is the is, the
culture is rappers, the music. R and B is the music,
but the umbrella MB R B.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
I don't like. It's not like I'm saying she's in
a box. I'm not saying you did it.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
I'm not saying you meant to say she's in a box,
or even that you're saying she's in a box in
a what is Franko?
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Because I'm not saying she's in a box.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
I just don't like how she's not hip hop like Yo,
she could definitely be hip hop.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
So what I'm saying is stop hip hop has enough.
We don't need anybody else putting over there. Also, what
you do by once again you miss genre? R and B.
R and B is not a facet of hip hop?
Can R and B artists exude hip hop and inspiration?
Can they rap on their records? Sure? Rapping has become
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a function of music, just like Oh, I don't know
if anybody care what that.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Nigga? No? What are we doing?
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Topic?
Speaker 2 (33:49):
So I've had enough, I had enough of myself.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
So agreed to disagree whether or not this has been
kind of a tomatoes, kind of a quiet urine so far.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Disagree, So just agree with the state. I disagree with
the I disagree with what that statement represents.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Okay, understood? What do we have to look forward to
for the rest of the year, tour wise and album wise?
What are you guys looking forward to?
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Drake Drake Draking twenty one. I can't wait for that
tool like I can't wait. I think I'm extremely excited
for that tool. Wayne is on tour. He just destroyed
fucking uhpoo the Apollo. I wish I wouldnt want damn.
I was watching that ship through people phone, but it's
still I don't care. Karen. I see what you're doing, Karen,
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civil I see what you're doing. I see what's going on.
I still agree with low key fifty versus Wayne and
the versus fifties coming out the winter, just putting it
out there. But yeah, Wayne is is destroying the stages
and they're like small stages, so I like to see that.
And I think that was the first time we got
sucking or not.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
That they did it together from him and Cameron. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Cameron said that at the the performance. That's the first
time we were able to do so.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
And that's crazy because then just a few months ago,
just a few months ago, him and makes the horse
and carriage at the Apollo for the first time ever.
That's crazy. A lot of first for Kim and Harlem.
We're raped love that.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Any shows you're looking forward to, yeah, all.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Five of mine.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
I thought is that hip hop that's not hip hop.
I disrespectful to hip hop because that's not hip hop.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
So no, I can't say all the ones that I
would say, like what you do, All the ones that
I would say are not hip hop to mouth, so
I don't even want to say them.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
By default. It would only have to be since everybody's
in a box.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Now, you nes since everybody's in a box, that I
can only go with you're just savage and Drake.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
You're not mad at the box, You're mad at who
I'm letting it in the box. And because that's crazy sounds.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Crazy Mount Sports Festival, your headlining, I'm headliner, he I mean.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Host, Bronx City, Broxley City.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Yeah, it's gonna be fun. And who's gonna be on
that Oozzi's headlining on I'll tell you right now.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Let's city a hip hop festival.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
No, no, it's a black festival. It's a black musical
has gotten bigger.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
I can't with him, but I will say I'm definitely
looking headlining.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Jasmine Sullivan's headlining, and you got City Girls, you got
Rema Mariah a Scientists. So it's staying Ice Spice for
the next two times. O G. Bobby Billions. That's on Saturday.
So yeah, that's you got. So what you're telling me,
Jasmine Sullivan's are a hip hop act? Now, Maria scientists
hip hop? Right?
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Well, I think Jasmine suns Morning Tony.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Braxion, But Jasmine also gave us records like.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Ladies, please please don't.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Maybe how can I find somebody else that's hip hop?
Speaker 3 (36:54):
That's hip hop?
Speaker 1 (36:55):
But anyway, I'm looking forward to hop. That's the other
so I'm looking for.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
I'm looking for it.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Tony to tour even though I heard that, what does
that mean?
Speaker 2 (37:14):
It's just like some random person standing in third?
Speaker 3 (37:17):
But was that just for that tour date? Like he
was sicker? That's the whole tour?
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Like okay, well then I take that back. I thought
that was gonna be the tour this summer. Then I
had to give it to Renaissance. I guess all the
tours that I wanted to see already already happened, except
for I didn't get to see Missago, but I saw
Smino and j I D. I saw Ari Lennox and
Alex Vaughn. So I'm pretty content. But I would definitely
be checking out Little Wayne this weekend, and I'll be
checking out the one uh Drake and twein One Savage,
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which I will say tween One Savage stage presents gotten
this much better at the festival because.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
I seen him twice when he opened up for Cole
he was good then too. I feel like it's been
that true, like a natural progression.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
I will say I think the Roots Picnic looks pretty
good this year. Definitely Lauren Hills doing the whole education.
Did he in the Roots?
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Dave Chappelle should be magic?
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Did He in the Roots should be fun?
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Dave Chappelle, little Uzzi Vert.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Yeah, No, I'm not excited to see Uzzie. I'm gonna
lie to you.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
Some guy named Charlemagne is doing the podcast stage.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
He heard about that guy.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
I'm excited for Roots. This is my first time going
to mm hmmm.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
What what what have you been doing? Are you guys? Water? Uh?
If I'm working, Wayne will be there. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
If they booked me.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Clips seeing them all.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
Grace Jones never seen him.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
And Sons are they hip hops?
Speaker 3 (38:55):
And I didn't even hear what he said. Sons they are?
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Uh all right?
Speaker 4 (39:04):
Last last thing to touch on albums that we're anticipating.
J Cole I supposedly has an album called It's a Boy.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
I saw three different album names for Cole. What's coming on?
I'm definitely rap about the drop, definitely looking forward to that.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
Has an album with uh drama A gangster grills theoretically coming.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
That's cool. I'm looking for it to rapt though, Playboy,
Cardi Rahapsody is on the way? Who else did I mention?
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Tape on the way?
Speaker 2 (39:40):
I definitely wait for you to say something.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
I'll be tuned into that. But Rapp, who.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
Are we most and who are we most looking forward
to an album by?
Speaker 3 (39:48):
It's almost like he doesn't hear me.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Rhapsody, I'm lining up for you, Nyla Rhapsody. Three albums.
If three albums were to drop the summer, which one
are you more looking forward to?
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Rhapsody, Rhapsody, Nicki Minajes Rhapsody, Cardi B Rhapsody, and Cardi B.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
You have to pick one. Stop doing that. No, no,
it's a pole. You have to pick one. Rhapsody.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Why did I always do this? Two women? They always
make We.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Just did that. We just did that with No, don't
do that.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
They do it.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
But we didn't just do a pole for Biggie in common,
go down them. No man compete with a dead man.
He couldn't even rest in peace.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
But why do I have to pick one?
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Why can't because it's a pole? And then now polls work?
Rhapsody Nikki Cardi.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Said, Rhapsody or Cardi?
Speaker 2 (40:43):
No?
Speaker 3 (40:44):
No, why can't it be which when first?
Speaker 2 (40:47):
And then I'm not how poles work. I'm doing different
acting like your other show. I need you to pick one?
Speaker 3 (40:53):
How about I give y'all order into which I'm listening.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
To because that's too easy.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Nicky is going to be the last to rat be
the first? All right?
Speaker 3 (41:02):
Cool? Yeah, you know me?
Speaker 1 (41:05):
All right, all right, But it's not like I'm not
excited to listen to Carti's I mean Cardi ship.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
We've been waiting on this for a bit. We've waited
on us for a very long time, six years now.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
But you know, I feel like is probably gonna have
more replay value for me, but Cardi will have more
replay value for me when DJing.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
So it's just different, Okay, I'll deal with that, all right.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
What she was?
Speaker 3 (41:31):
She excited for nothing, So I'm.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Full when it comes to like, I love this ship.
I'm full.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
Like you're not excited for a pusher T gangster girls
type album.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
No, Darren's obviously excited because he keeps bringing this up.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
No, it's I love pushing.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
It's cool, It's cool. I love pushing. I love I
love the fact that Jim disrespecting him and then he
came out and fucking gave Coke cella fucking bomb ass performance.
I love pushing Te's existence in the rap space. I
love how neat she is and how people just eat
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it up, snorted up, get it.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
Silly.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
But I am full, and I am okay with you know,
just I am still dissecting certain albums from last year,
Like I'm Vince Stables album is on repeat. Still the
album came out last April. We're talking about a full
year later. I'm still fully into the album. Tyler's Tyler
(42:37):
album came out, not even last year. He came out one.
Speaker 4 (42:40):
I think the Little baby's doing a what a reboot?
What do you call a bonus of his last album?
Speaker 3 (42:48):
Which one we didn't need?
Speaker 2 (42:49):
We didn't need the last one?
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Ooh spicy.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
My last baby album was garbage.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
I definitely hot garbage.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
But but yeah, and I think it's okay to be full.
I think people burn themselves out a lot on hip hop,
and then you have people walking around like industry like no, like.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
I say, I'm full unless it's good, like if it
ain't good, a lot of stuff just be cool.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
But I do think push your Tea in drama will
be something that like forces me to like, I'm going
to listen to this like everything who is to can
give you the whole album? Are you nuts? You do
have things to do?
Speaker 3 (43:30):
You said through Don Top's project? Did I damn? All right?
So I hope you guys episode of the What.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
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Speaker 3 (43:48):
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Speaker 2 (43:50):
People like you sure know like Wu Tang album coming out.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
And what you know is most excited for that? Now
it's Wu Tang tour.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Oh that's what you talking about on the front room.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Yeah, I know, I do want to see He wanted
to give a little shout out so he get those tickets.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Div I coming in with the big gin shoes. Yeah,
shun ball Ye y'all I'm not gonna lie. I was.
I was upset. I was hurt that the series ended
a boy ol boy outside. They wore me out this
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last season, fucking allegory episode. I was like, what the fuck, bro,
if we don't just stay right here, there is a
story to tell right here, right now. But yes, we'll
see how. We'll see how next Monday. Shout to Marcus
who played Power guest of the show, friend of the show,
shot to him, Shout to everybody over there, great show,
love y'all, and as for y'all, we'll see all on Monday,
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