May 1, 2023 • 42 mins
“Joanna” singer Afro B joins Nyla and Mouse to talk about the Afrobeat wave with artists like Burna Boy, Tems and Wizkid running hip hop radio. Afro B tells us his US and UK top 5 rappers. Tune in and comment in the socials below.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up, guys, and welcome to the What hip Hop Questions,
Legends and List. I'm not La.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Samon and I'm the man that puts the jucks in juxtaposition.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Moue Jones and today on the What, we have a
very special guest. Now usually talk hip hop, and we're
still gonna talk hip hop, but we're actually gonna make
it a little more international.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
We got afro beat.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
People afroing the building. I'm good good man ex side
New York, loving.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
It, loving it, Glad you're back.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I feel like when Joanna broke what was that like
twenty twenty nineteen, twenty nineteen, Yeah, it's really wroke.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
You go to twenty eight.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Yeah, yeah, twenty eighteens when they came out by Broken
America the following year, twenty nineteen year. That's tough.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
But since then a lot of like afrobeat records have
been breaking through and penetrating through. But you were early
on with that Cogres Congress on that and now your
back going to new joint Costumegos.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Yes for it in my Cupana afro b Yeah, what
inspired that? She reached out to me twenty nineteen during
Johanna tim she was a fan of the song, and
then we just kept in contacts, and then last year
she just sent me the song. I thought, oh, this
is kind of a vibe, and then I took the
U the vocals switched over and just made it made
(01:22):
my vibe the.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Afroverb fire, fire your drink of I'm.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
My honey guy. I won't like you. But she already
said it to me as you Yeah, yeah, so I
was round with it. But I've been having it a
lot recently. Last week in Miami, it's been shut, shut, shut.
That seems too much, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Too much. It's too much for me too. How does
it the type of night that you have?
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Non memorable?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
It's like the questions he was trying to ask you earlier.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I didn't ask no question.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
Yes you did.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
You asked them.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
You want to meet those shut up? You must be
They must have poured it in your cup.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Whatever you guys to check for this record.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Man, we reached out, but crickets, man, but the might,
the might hit us up there. When the song picks up,
it's been.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
George kiss you ass. So when he spends the block.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
He's gonna come back. Man, He's gonna come.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Ball when he was the worst Batman when he reaches back.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Out and like, look this is gonna this is gonna
cancel me.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Then don't don't agree, no comment.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I tried to laugh, honestly, So y'all didn't see Batman.
That's crazy. That's fucking crazy how we're acting today.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
All right, all right, anyway back to the music. I'm
not getting canceled for your stupid.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
I'm because he's laughing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not laughing.
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
You don't know what?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Stop being Spider Man like this, little fucking Jesus Christ.
All right, anyway back to the music. Let's talk about
Casimigo is the new single out. Are you working on
the project right now?
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Yeah? So literally from twenty twenty, I've been recording, So
Casamigos is the first, Like, yeah, I'm back, and then
there's just going to be singles ongoing. I'm gonna tap
into the Latin world as well, so join AfroB reggaetn.
So I'm gonna what does that sound like? Afro tone
That's what I'm calling it because it sounds a similar Okay, okay,
(03:38):
so it's just easy to just measure too Spanish and English.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
What is like the big difference between reggaeton.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
AfroB Spanish Spanish.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Language though, because for Black Americans who don't grow up
in cities like New York, who don't hear other sounds,
you can't really tell the difference.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
It's the rhythm. There's different rhythms, so you have to
play it.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
You, But that was that's news to me. Wait, so
when you hear afrobeasts and you hear reggae tony it
sounds similar. Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I never, honestly, now New York long enough, I get it.
But when I first moved here.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
It would just sound loss. Isn't just because it's all
this is in a different language and you kind of
all like, I guess I've constantly bunched it all together,
or like the sound sounded similar, which I can ask.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
You because you're a j I'll say this, which by
the time when I first moved here, I wasn't the DJ,
I say to me hearing it, it wasn't hip hop.
So yeah, it's like it's just different.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Before I do want to ask all jokes aside about
the Cosumigo's record, Like for so long a hip hop,
whether you know overtly or inadvertently, We've always kind of
been the ones to make things cool. When you think
about my dadas with Run DMC, think about Pastor Cavasier,
or you even think about what Jay did for Chrystal
(05:09):
and as Spade or are you ever thinking about that
when going into like or had I ever thought when
making a record like oh this could be an easy
brand play here or.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
I prefer well, if I do make a song with
a brand is already locked in. Do you know what
I'm saying? I wouldn't actually just do it to just
do it, oh unless I really like wh Yeah yeah,
so I'm assuming she really likes to drink, So the
song was already done. We did it. I've even got
I've made a song about Hennessy too.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
So yeah, did you guys get to collab at all
in person?
Speaker 4 (05:49):
No? So this was like on what's happened? Then we
met each other at the video shoot and then we've
been cool since.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
How that definitely you know.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
What Leanna.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
That she's timid, she's shy.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Yeh, that makes sense that two different sides. Yeah, that's
what's a side we will see. But when you actually
know what she was like? Quiet?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
So did she just turned it on at the video
shot the shoot?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
What do all the freaky women say? Right for the
get freaky?
Speaker 5 (06:19):
Oh my god?
Speaker 2 (06:21):
That makes all right? Now, all right now I'm sucking
using logic and now I'm in the y'all want I'll leave.
I'm that serious, Like I'm saying, she shin like that
tracks that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
That's surprising to me, but okay, that's that's what's up.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
She never had a freaking woman, all right?
Speaker 3 (06:43):
So all right, so you did the joy witha she shy?
Speaker 1 (06:52):
What was the what was shooting the music video?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Like?
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Shoot? And it was cool, man, It was just I
was just trying to understand her because it was a
shock to me that she was shay. So I had
to adjustin be that make it feel comfortable, like it's cool,
just do your thing and she doesn't needed to take
a couple of shots and then she was comfortable.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Yeah, okay, cool?
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Man, Oh listen you I thought you want me to
shut up. I was shutting up. So you do got
French Mantana on the remix? Do you think Shirtain Americana
on the drawing the remix? So you got French on
that remix or do you think it's a bit easier
to for afrobeat artists or world artists to work with
(07:42):
h Drake and French Like you see them. They're on
all the records, like they're on all the remake, They're
on all the records. Is it something just about their
sound and their cadence?
Speaker 4 (07:51):
And yeah, they they understand the song, because sometimes when
they don't get it and you're just putting it said
that just because of his name, it doesn't mean the
song is going to go farst It's going to be
like that one wow moment and then but DJ's are
not going to play it because it's not it doesn't
make sense sonically. But French, Montana Drake, the sued Les, etc.
(08:14):
They kind of have that vibe with them what I'm saying.
Even Rick Ross sometimes he's jumped on a few aphrobeats future.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
Of course, Yeah I gotta hit Yeah, Yeah, he's done
a few.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah, I've got to be an afrobeat legendary. I watch
on the records.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Even sleep Dog's done one, but this is years.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
We got to talk about that. I don't think that
was a good one. I never I don't think that
was good.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
This was years ago though, this was like I don't
know what year, this was sixteen.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Speaking of good, how do you think, Well, what do
you think about like Jake's Drake's patoa.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Patoa, Yeah, it works. Everyone puts pato in their songs.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
I feel like in the in the dancel obviously afrobeasts
even some sometimes records you might hear that influence in there.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
So they do it regardless. But I don't think Jamaican's mind.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
They don't.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
They do not, They really don't.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
They tell me it's English, but i'd be lost.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Yeah what Yeah, baking broken down and.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
If they ain't whatever, listen, they're not gonna ruin whatever
they say that that's what.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
It is not.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
They're not going to rum shrimp whatever it is. That's
what the fuck it is you that is. It's not
gonna be trying to tell these people what this is
why they got my jerk shrip over the hot coals.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
So you currently listen to what hip Hop Questions Legends
and list will be right back after this break. Since Joanna,
we've seen afrobeats or other afrobeat artists creep and breakthrough
from Whiz kids to burna boyd to Tams, A lot
of Nigerian artists. Actually, there's like some competition going on
(10:01):
in Africa.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Like their population is huge. There's Nigerians everywhere. So once
you're making noise in that territory, automatically with the diaspora,
whether it's in America, Europe, Asia, they're all building to
happen the streets and then from the streets it will
go to Well, now it's reached mainstream level because of
(10:22):
what happened in twenty nineteen, so it's it's easier for
Afro eyes. So just breakthrough.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
You feel like you get to just do for being
a guy to kind of usher it.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
It's going to start, It's going to begin. I didn't
want to talk my ship into release more music. You
got what I'm saying. So I feel that from now onwards,
that's what I'm going.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
To respect that. I feel like, yeah, a lot of
people in your position would have been like, at least
Americans would have been like no, because American niggas love
as an American, but like they we really like getting
our credit.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Yeah, yeah, I get it. I think it's a UK
thing to turn it down a bit.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Okay, yeah, it might be the beans.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
And then.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I heard that niggas.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
I don't know why you guys don't eat that man
for breakfast? Was wrong with you? You should try it?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
I'm not I refuse one day.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Try it. Absolutely, it's not both being beans for breakfast,
big beans and again for the mean.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
To start your energy beans is extreme. That's an aggressive
way to start my day. You like, I wake up
the first thing in my plate.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Is beanski for first of all in the morning, that
she cannot up in the morning coming man's heavy.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Now that's definitely now deep black, that's definitely racist for
you to say out of here, that's crazy. Just let
it with chickens. I do want to talk about because
I've never been I've never been over there. I only
know the American experience. But being you know, being out
there so many there's Jamaicans in London in the UK,
(12:04):
and then actually there's a lot of Nigerian culture over there. Yeah,
then you have to merge that with the UK culture.
Is there any for lack of a bed term, is
there any kerfuffle that takes place?
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Is it a rough? Is a rough? Merging those two?
Speaker 4 (12:23):
It's more of a unison. Now, before there was like
the clash between Jamaica and Nigeria, just like on the
ego level. But now that's all out the way. Man.
We're all blending in together making music. The artists are
making music together, we're eating each other's food. So it's cool.
But before it's Jamaica versus Nigeria all the time, because
that was allowedest and most proud, this less ego, so yeah,
(12:46):
it was just no, it doesn't happen anymore.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
So now are they more humble or is it just like.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Everyone's just doing their Jamaicans. Everyone's just doing their thing.
And before Dansa was really killing it, so viscar tell
those guys. And then aphrobeats aren't really there yet. And
then when they started to raise the levels. Okay, now
we can talk our ship kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Now it's forgive my ignorance. Now, afrobeats as we know it,
or at least over here, is now. But it's not
a new thing like it's been in Africa for years.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Yeah, but in Africa they don't call it afrobeats.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Okay. So there's so many countries in Africa and each
country has their own sound. So the sound that you
guys are used to is the Ghanaian yeah, and the
Nigerian sound, but they don't call it afrobeats. They just
call it whatever they call it. Sometimes it could be
like their earned hip hop, but to our is will
sound like afrobeats.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Wait wait, wait, they'll call it hip hop as in
like they're rapping.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
They're rappings. They are some of them, yeah, or some
of them could It could be like dancel like reggae.
But when we hear it, we're calling the aphrobeats because
you know how. But you might him singing past or something.
They might some people in Nigeria might call that danceful,
(14:08):
whereas his those approbutes. But that's the way easier.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
You got to relabel everything once it comes over. It's
just American. It's an American way.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
That's so bad.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
It's not bad. But what's this breaking it down? There
will be too many genres, will be confusing, So it
does make sense to have caull it aphrobets to have
a better understanding the sounds coming from Africa.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
You're the perfect person to break this down. Yeah, yeah, yeah, piano.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
So that's from South Africa. Okay, so that's the kind
of house that's kind of like how casting migo sounds? Okay?
All right, so yeah it's like usually one twelve, one eleven,
one thirteen, Yeah, bouncing dancing.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
But that is the new genre right.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
In, Yeah, fairly new. And what was the trending the
trending sound?
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Yeah, so diff talking about that, yeah they so yeah,
major laser it's happen the thing.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I'm glad you're here. So the thing right, the rether
THENT the rather than the UK African in the building. No.
So with what I've seen with world music, specifically afrobeats,
I'm piana as well as reggaetone is uh, there's so
much support behind these records, like you'll find like at
(15:28):
least me, I'll find a new artist, whether in Nigeria
where they're from, in Africa and they already have millions
of followers, but never we never heard them or they
have like two songs out. It's like, can you speak
if you can, if you have an insight, can you
speak about the support of I mean obviously you may
not know about the reggaetone community, but that once again,
same thing, like I think it's now the most stream
(15:50):
music or something. Those crazy like the last numbers that
they put out is the numbers like supporting that music
is crazy? Like can you speak about how that happens?
Speaker 4 (15:59):
So you have to look at the population. I think
I can't remember the specific number. What's the population in
the USA, like around three hundred yeah, so there's around
the same in Nigeria alone, and I feel I think
that's excluding.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
In Nigeria alone.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Yes, that's how many people. I think that's either excluding
the diaspora, excluding people that don't live there. So imagine
once you pop in that community where your music spreading.
So that's the same with the Latin world. There's there's
so many numbers. Yeah, so many Latin people that live
in New York, East West Coast wherever. So when it
(16:39):
pops in their hometown Columbia, wherever they're from, it spreads
here and then all of our Latin friends are showing
us in music, and then we just pick it up
that way. So the same thing is happening here since
twenty nineteen, because now we're now we're used to the sound,
whereas before what was like what what what is this?
Speaker 5 (17:02):
I don't really understand it?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
So how did you like what was your target?
Speaker 5 (17:06):
When breaking Joanna my target.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Man, I didn't I didn't have a target. I was
just having fun and I won't ask to you there's
something I made quickly thirty minutes. But this was before
TikTok so I was doing who is Joanna made? As well?
What's one of your names?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
You made her up?
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Yeah? But with with with my genre, we we concentrate
more in the melodies and then we might pick up
words from the mumble or whatever we're saying, and then
that's when we add lyrics after Well, some people have
different processes, but that's mostly what most artists do.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
The same with dancer as well.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
I don't know if this applies in the UK, but
I know in like Africa and as far as piano genre,
like a lot of the DJs are breaking the sound.
And I know you're also a DJ too, So were
you responsible for breaking your own record?
Speaker 5 (18:09):
Like at the time, Yeah, I always play my own record.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
I'm on radio in London, so I'll be playing Spinning Spinning,
allegedly spinning it every day, well every every show, Yeah,
two hours every week on the Saturday.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Okay, sure you still have the show?
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:30):
What sure? Is it?
Speaker 4 (18:31):
This is called afro on Capital extras like the Power equivalent.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Wow, I had no idea. Yeah yeah, yeah, what came
in with the fake crutches? Why you got them crazy?
Speaker 3 (18:47):
This is our producer, Big.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Those crutches ain't real.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
Oh he didn't want to.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Bring it back to the accent old New York.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
They'd be doing that in London sometimes.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Just walking around with crocket. He just wanted a better
parking spot, That's what that was.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
So okay, I guess I'm trying to get a better
understanding of this worldview of music and London with afrobeats
already a thing.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Yeah, afrobeats, afrobeats in London, Yeah it.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Is, but we have a understanding of the different sounds
that are coming from different places.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
So I'm not Nagean. I'm from Ivory Coas.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
That's a whole different part, French speaking part right next
to Ghana. So is what I'm doing is unusual?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
The name of the country is Avory Coach.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Yeah, so I'm kind of like the alien because I'm
speak singing in English and I'm from a French speaking
country and I'm doing afrobeats, which is dominated by Nigerians
and gane Ins.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
Yeah, so it's just like ah, where did this guy
come from?
Speaker 4 (19:52):
But from the UK? I'm already friends with all these
different cultures. That's why I played the part on my
sound and.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Spreading spreading it too, Yeah, yeah, because I think you're
the only artists that I know from the Ivory Coast,
and then Akon's only when I know from Senagog.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
And then like that's it. Everybody else is.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
From from the French park the French part.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Okay, yeah, now that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
You're now listening to the what hipop questions legend listen
will be right back after the break. Do you have
lama asks? Do you ever get tired of hearing your song?
Like it depends where I am in a spot, like
you know all, I'm sorry, no not you, but New
York radio sucks. So like when there's a song that
(20:36):
breaks through, you're gonna hear it forever, like Sunday Show,
Saturday definitely Still if you're listening on Breakfast Club, it's
it's still plays and they be doing drops like it's
and now ever, nigga, we know the song, we know
the song. Why are you telling not just playing this song?
Or like sometimes you're in the club and DJ's not
(20:59):
NI attack the DJ I'm just talking about in general. Okay,
DJs have their records, they have their set that they're
gonna play, like, yeah, these niggas uck. So it's like, oh,
play this record, play now, like are you having this fine? Be?
Like if I hear this ship one more time?
Speaker 4 (21:15):
It depends why I am in London I'm tired of it.
But out here it's because I'm going to raise in London,
but got my songs spinning in this other territory.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
And I'm saying, are they say the DJ is trash
like that?
Speaker 4 (21:28):
And they're not. They're cool. They play up to date.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Stuff that was a shot.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
No, no, no, it wasn't a shot in the US.
Yet they're better with breaking records over in the US,
you think so?
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Yes, in the UK they play what's popping already they.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
Have a smaller place.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
I feel like they do here.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
No, here they break records now to keep the buck.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
What was the last record you can remember radio A
DJ breaking.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
The Africa ones, tusche what the Affro songs? They broke
it here?
Speaker 2 (22:02):
I feel maybe is anything else I would can I
would attribute to the internet. But if you're saying afrobeats
and you all right, yeah, I always thought about that
because it's like that, you have one of the biggest
songs ever at this point, so it's like they're gonna
play it, especially here. I know the words. I mean,
(22:24):
I know what you're saying, but I know the words.
That's how much they played.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
We talked about the influence of afrobeats but also mouse
especially you know about this the production standpoint from London
New York. Drill Yeah, drill, yeah, has been very influenced
by the producers in London at start.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Yeah. So yeah, as you know pop smoke, he took
the sound from the UK, did this twist to it,
and I think it sounds good. I like the US
drill the twist to it.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
So yeah, actual actually get actual coming a crow was
probably the best thing that ever happened in New York City.
But does that so? But over there are they now
leaning more towards the drill that we're doing over here
or they.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
It's the same beat. Okay, they're all the same instrumentals,
just the flows are different.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
But they're talking about the same the same subject matter.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Yeah, to be honest, But so UK are doing more,
They're leaning more towards the dance that Dance Challenge drives
on the.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Drill, Okay, okay, I mean they do, and I think
I think.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
That kind of sight with pop Smunk when it was
doing that whole Yeah, let's think that that's bad.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
That's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
That was terrible.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
It was him. It was him and that guy called
Russ Russ millions, another guy who millions.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah, that was way better than his.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
He's a London rapper too, right.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Yeah, London.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
I would say, you know, people put a negative connotation
around drill and even like hip hop, it could be
violent and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
But I feel like where.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Afrobeats is like good, positive energy. Do you have any
like reservations. We're doing collaborations with hip hop artists because
of that.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
As long as he as long as the song sounds
good man, and if they come in, if they if
artists from that world want to make afrobeats, I don't
even they wouldn't do a hard hitting topic will be
about love or making money on something. Those are the
(24:40):
main subjects for.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
There are fault Are there white artists trying to do
afrobeats as of yet they're trying? Yeahs Biba Whoao.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Not peaches his collabs with a few his collab with
a few Afro Ed Shuran.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
You gotta collab with ed Shuran because he's on everything.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
But they're not their feature. I'm talking about like white
artists trying to.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Do not that artist was doing it that past.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
I think he's mixed though, but he's white.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
White.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
There's another one too that I follow that that's white
who does it?
Speaker 1 (25:24):
But I think they're African. They're just white African?
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Yes, South Africa? Is that?
Speaker 5 (25:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:30):
I don't ever want to see that. It doesn't sound
bad start to protest.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Is that like like when we get white rappers in America,
it's a thing like, oh, white rapper?
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Is it the same over there?
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Not?
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Really, No, it depends on the song. Depends on the
song that the song has to smash. Yes, no, we
don't really have that.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Well we haven't seen it yet, So spread on that behalf.
It hits wanted, it hits it hit it is hit
you right, if you're good, you're good. I thought peatures
of afrobeaching till this day. Y'all just told me. I
really it sounds to me a child all right.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
I will say this. I feel like Nigerian speak you roba.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Yeah, this hell of other languages. Thats but just one track.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
When does the speak? Because he got me speaking that I.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Need to find I'm pretty sure Zerova as well.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
I'm like, I don't know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
I would love someone to come and be like, yo,
you're talking about like what is the song?
Speaker 4 (26:38):
But I think that means laid down, laid down and
get ready to smash or something like that.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Look a, you've been going around saying that the old ladies.
You can't say that for your grandmother.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
It's anty, so it doesn't sound like it.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
We'll be having a good time. You alread you go
over there.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Up, laid down and get ready to smash.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Yeah, I remember again told that there's along those lands anywhayesh.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I do like just the elements of English and then.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
It goes into yeah, mixed Eurobo or whatever they're speaking,
and now I feel like I'm learning a new language.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Are you going to do that with your French?
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Yeah? Yeah, I'll do from French here from French records.
Yeah I am, because that's a whole group that that
lacked my stuff. So I need to tap into the
like there's different territories that I need to tap into.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
You like simple so that wow, tell the artists what
to do?
Speaker 1 (27:43):
No, No, I'm as like, can you make it? So?
Like what's the record?
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Well Joanno's one that does covered everyone?
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yeah, but no there's another. What's that all that says hello?
And like five different language?
Speaker 6 (27:57):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Ken Jones one?
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Can you do it where it's French? But then I
still know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
Like, well, like a bonjou or something like that.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Don't listen, but the thing is to the French, that
thing will be cheesy. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
Okay, yeah, I'll work out. Are they like what you
was going to do?
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I mean I feel like I'm new to world music,
like I'm new to exactly.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
You're not new anymore Many twenty.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Three now, I'm still new.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
When I went to Ghana this for New Year's Eve,
I was like, I don't know none of this.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Oh yeah yeah, they want to play some deep ship.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
What Andedurant was on everything, I was shocked.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
He's been in it.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
He's been in it deep before crazy, He's in deep.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
So who are some American artists that you're working with?
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Working with rich the kids of what with Tea paying before,
what's slim Jimmy before us us more to come anyway,
okay to come?
Speaker 1 (29:02):
And in the UK, I feel like the UK R
and B scene right.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Now is I so need to tap into it. I've
been out here so I've kind of been out of
the lute. So it's unly this ship.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Well, I've been trash RMB on the shot of trash.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
This side you fixed so Cizon then.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
I never said she wasn't. I never said I never.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Said the argument.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
I never said.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Argument that they was telling me that Sis isn't hip
hop artist hip hop?
Speaker 3 (29:37):
What I said, thank you? I love how nigga just
give half the story.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
That's not what y'all. Y'all said that hip.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Hop under the hip hop?
Speaker 2 (29:45):
What do you think as.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
R and B? Summer Lady R and B? What scis?
Speaker 1 (29:53):
The question was the man. The question wasn't R and B.
The question was that you fall under the hip hop umbrella.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
No, I wouldn't put.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
What she signed the t d E.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
What does that means since it's a label, bro whatever.
Speaker 6 (30:11):
Hip hop being the culture rapping the music in the music,
hip hop is.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Take steak, R and rap make up hip hop Mary J.
Blige hip hop.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
No, she's not mixedure mixture. What do you say?
Speaker 4 (30:26):
You just she did classic?
Speaker 5 (30:29):
She dibbles and doubles. Man, but she's R and B
doesn't know, she's just doesn't.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
We can't.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
We can't compare three dres on her project. And she's
not an R.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
And B artist, She's a pop artist.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
Now we gotta we gotta rap, so you want to
these guys.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Artist has to wrap? You even wrap rap? Did it?
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Once her name was called? Her name was?
Speaker 4 (30:54):
They have to wrap?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Din't even call her something? Mary J.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Blige, brooks wrapping on the intro? What's the four one one?
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Is she really one time? Is she really like spoken word?
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Okay, I'm not gonna call hip hop hop?
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (31:12):
You know what I'm gonna do. Play Joanne again?
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
You're gonna get a billion on one stream. Goddamn, you
gotta get another stream from Brooklyn. You look at them
analytics and they say, fucking Brooklyn New played this record
thirty thousand times today because of that right there?
Speaker 4 (31:30):
My god.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
I had we do a lot of lists on the show.
Top five London based rappers.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
Top five London based You got a school list?
Speaker 2 (31:39):
On this.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
You gotta school the US first and then London.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
He wants to.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Yeah, yeah, I like this five five for me and
you wanna go US five jay Z smart, Biggie Smart.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
This is a pestle one for me DMX smart mix.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
This guy New York, Oh business my business? Do not Yeah,
they are mind your business. Do not badger the witness.
He's he's saying what he said. I'll put nonsense there,
don't say ship.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I like this guy. You like this guy like you've
been saying nonsense there.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
But jay Z has a smashes he's going to he's
a big jay Z.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
I don't know what he said.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
No, I want to I want to use that jay
Goddamn there.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Jay Z hasn't hits.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
No, no, you said something else.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
The smashes, Yeah, the smash the smashes brok as smashes.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Bro This one's personal to me, this one fifty cent.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
I just have to say that.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Yeah, they say Tupac, we're good. Heduac. This episode wasn't
coming skill.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
I'll put Biggie before.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Why do you disrespect Tupac like that?
Speaker 4 (33:01):
I'm not disrespect him.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
And he's all the way from across the Pond and
he gave us what five New York niggas. I'm just saying,
stop talking about buying.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
But you don't listen to any Southern artists.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Not that made this top five?
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Move on, thank you what we're doing like honorable mentioned future,
then another.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Great I love this guy.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
I love this guy and endless hits, endless hits.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Why do we waste the one to have your mad
like over there to talk to this nigga, he's amazing,
endless hits.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
I give you, give me a UK.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
List, give him the except for when to get to that?
Speaker 6 (33:40):
Now you talk about some of the UKs okay uk uh,
stop playing a.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
U k u k u k Damn.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
He's a guy called Rech free To I've heard of.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
Yeah, I've heard of. Damn. There's some good. There's some
underground ones that you might not.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
No, I'm not gonna know anybody else.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Five wretch god Damn. Can I include grime as well?
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Yeah? Put it on.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
That's an artist.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
No, that's a different genre that guys expert.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
That's what Skepta does.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Yes, oh, Skeptic the grime artist.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Yeah, put I'll put I'll put Chip, a guy called Chip,
I'll put Skeptic as well, Skeptics versatile Latin song with
asap rookie as well. I like skep uh. You guys
know ka right from top Boy.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
I'm a little Sims fan.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
Oh yes, Simpsons hard, I'll put Sims there.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
You know.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
Really she's good on the show, the list, on the list, Yeah,
Simpsons called she's dope.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Really that's five.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah, I know we're gonna have heard Wretch before, heard
the Wretch crazy.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
As well. Another one he's like in Wretch's camp.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Okay, and the boy what's the nipples?
Speaker 1 (35:22):
I don't like this guy.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
I got so excited too because I'm like nip Nipper. Yeah,
he's fire Nipper a d he's fire he's that niggas
a heater now he wear the same outfit every day.
But that's just because he has I need to take
him in.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
He's a he must be my guy.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Ken him though nippers fire like, oh yeah, fire like.
I listened to that ship or a link that ship
every week. He's fired.
Speaker 5 (35:53):
That made this song with Blust.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
You got a record with Black like he's he was
like a UK version of Blast. Oh he's like singing.
He could sing, but he'd be singing about the street
ship he got. He got a little movement with him.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Yeah, I love that he.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Got a little braid. He got a little braids though,
So I like when all this got little braids, because
they get they hungry when they break in some hangtime,
they don't be.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
What the meat mill.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Now when they braids get a little long and they
don't be hungry no more, they start being regular. So
when they got like little braids and start up here,
they be hungry. They needed it to be fire.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
I go with your sound.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
It's okay if you don't know.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
I have the same braids when he's liketed.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Remember Nigga had dirty braids.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
Hungry, was hungry.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Man, My brain still, my brain still clean, So I
might not be hungry. Give me a week or two,
I'll be hungry.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
I'll record all week. I see you switched your hair up.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
Round, man, I I just wanted to come different.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Oh you didn't have it. You didn't have to split before?
Speaker 4 (36:49):
No, No, I just had the normal. Literally did did
this yesterday? A random Are you gonna keep it low?
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Are you gonna grow it up?
Speaker 4 (36:57):
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
You kind of have to have afro kind of in it.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
It's afrobeats. After going down, I feel like if I
got iron that would be too much girl.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Listen, no such thing.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
It might work.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Your name is afro b.
Speaker 5 (37:11):
I know you know I have the power to the
people type of afro But.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
Yeah I did.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
During the pandemic though, everybody it was crazy.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Nigga niggas working out those head fold mind.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
I was looking Nigga's growing up.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
God, what the fuck is going on here?
Speaker 5 (37:32):
Crazy going on?
Speaker 3 (37:33):
This was great, It was really great having you. This
is my last I guess question, what do you think?
What do you Where do you think world music is going?
Like in the direction now that we're getting a blend
of like you're doing French on records with American artists
and then you're doing Soca records, Like, where do you
think we're going?
Speaker 4 (37:52):
I think it'll be more established in the mainstream world.
I still think some people are learning the genre, but
it's just a expanding that more songs are adding to
DJ playlist. So I think the artists need to keep
releasing and just added to the playlist, and the more
DJ's learned the songs and spin it, it's just going
to spread that way.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
We got to hypnotizer.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
What did that look like when you say that the
music itself would be more established, What it looks like
you're thinking, like more be an industry around afrobeats kind
of like right now afrobeats benefits from the music or
hip hop industry or this whole industry. Do you think
there's going to soon be an industry centered around afrobeachs?
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Like yeah, exactly that so afrobeach labels, because right now
there's events that happen, but it's still kind of underground
that not everyone knows about it, that the African Americans.
But I feel like it'll get to a point where
everyone just wants to go to the same events, and
we'll get to that point.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
I would love that.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Well, yeah, all of us going to the same like
instead of having Coachella and Afroella.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Yeah one, no, no, keep the white people over there,
keep celebrating Afro. It's afro for a reason.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Start trying.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Y'all didn't learn from the sixties. When you're segregate, you
get this show.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
All right, all right, all right, all right, day.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Way I had afro beas and make them come over there.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
But music, so everyone music, I'll be I'll be having
shows there's no black people dead. Sometimes should look rough.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
They be off beating. It was true, they be off
like a mother.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
No, it was a good feeling that just to see.
Sometimes it's white people having a good sound.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
White people clapp so bolently.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Oh my god, everybody.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Went hitting their.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Im.
Speaker 6 (39:49):
Sorry sorry, I think you know, at the end of
a movie, they always dedicate something to somebody, So I
think we should dedicate this episode to Harry Bellfonte, who
passed away today. First probably the first world music artist
to make success in America.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Way to bring it home in that up.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
Now, that was.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Abstract, but I like it.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Thanks for having me man stream casts Amigos Skia out
and now put it in my car, big up man.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Damn we should have as No.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
We should.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
Yeah, we took a shot.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
Had I don't drink, but ye be found quick as well.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
You know you might not want to working record.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
Drink fifty cent? Does that though? That's a whole everybody.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Throw everybody drink, Throw everybody under the bus.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
Now you mother had to watch.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Motherfucker ever drinker Bell, I knew you had to watch
UK mother.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
How does be about this?
Speaker 5 (40:59):
You're actually right about that?
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Yeah a brand. Hey, I ain't mad at I'm gonna
do the same. Fifty Man Hennessy come over here, right
down to about mouth ship. George Clue called me, want
you want to do some like Batman suck?
Speaker 3 (41:15):
But pout everybody on me on that note, Batman sucks,
but the what didn't.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Got Batman forever because it's a.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
Lot of Batman.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Batman Forever suck, but what didn't.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
So make sure you guys like share, subscribe and come
back next Monday for another episode.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
The next time.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Oh and I just told you I just got a
text message. Next week we'll have Joe Inn on. Yes, Yeah,
it's on. Yeah, We're gonna find we interview on her
her side man every time.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
I she's from the Bronx. I'm jakin, I'm Jacob.
Speaker 5 (42:00):
Buddy.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Samon and I'm the man that puts the jucks in juxtaposition.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Moue Jones and today on the What, we have a
very special guest. Now usually talk hip hop, and we're
still gonna talk hip hop, but we're actually gonna make
it a little more international.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
We got afro beat.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
People afroing the building. I'm good good man ex side
New York, loving.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
It, loving it, Glad you're back.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I feel like when Joanna broke what was that like
twenty twenty nineteen, twenty nineteen, Yeah, it's really wroke.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
You go to twenty eight.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Yeah, yeah, twenty eighteens when they came out by Broken
America the following year, twenty nineteen year. That's tough.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
But since then a lot of like afrobeat records have
been breaking through and penetrating through. But you were early
on with that Cogres Congress on that and now your
back going to new joint Costumegos.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Yes for it in my Cupana afro b Yeah, what
inspired that? She reached out to me twenty nineteen during
Johanna tim she was a fan of the song, and
then we just kept in contacts, and then last year
she just sent me the song. I thought, oh, this
is kind of a vibe, and then I took the
U the vocals switched over and just made it made
(01:22):
my vibe the.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Afroverb fire, fire your drink of I'm.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
My honey guy. I won't like you. But she already
said it to me as you Yeah, yeah, so I
was round with it. But I've been having it a
lot recently. Last week in Miami, it's been shut, shut, shut.
That seems too much, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Too much. It's too much for me too. How does
it the type of night that you have?
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Non memorable?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
It's like the questions he was trying to ask you earlier.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I didn't ask no question.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
Yes you did.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
You asked them.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
You want to meet those shut up? You must be
They must have poured it in your cup.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Whatever you guys to check for this record.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Man, we reached out, but crickets, man, but the might,
the might hit us up there. When the song picks up,
it's been.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
George kiss you ass. So when he spends the block.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
He's gonna come back. Man, He's gonna come.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Ball when he was the worst Batman when he reaches back.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Out and like, look this is gonna this is gonna
cancel me.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Then don't don't agree, no comment.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I tried to laugh, honestly, So y'all didn't see Batman.
That's crazy. That's fucking crazy how we're acting today.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
All right, all right, anyway back to the music. I'm
not getting canceled for your stupid.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
I'm because he's laughing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not laughing.
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
You don't know what?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Stop being Spider Man like this, little fucking Jesus Christ.
All right, anyway back to the music. Let's talk about
Casimigo is the new single out. Are you working on
the project right now?
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Yeah? So literally from twenty twenty, I've been recording, So
Casamigos is the first, Like, yeah, I'm back, and then
there's just going to be singles ongoing. I'm gonna tap
into the Latin world as well, so join AfroB reggaetn.
So I'm gonna what does that sound like? Afro tone
That's what I'm calling it because it sounds a similar Okay, okay,
(03:38):
so it's just easy to just measure too Spanish and English.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
What is like the big difference between reggaeton.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
AfroB Spanish Spanish.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Language though, because for Black Americans who don't grow up
in cities like New York, who don't hear other sounds,
you can't really tell the difference.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
It's the rhythm. There's different rhythms, so you have to
play it.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
You, But that was that's news to me. Wait, so
when you hear afrobeasts and you hear reggae tony it
sounds similar. Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I never, honestly, now New York long enough, I get it.
But when I first moved here.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
It would just sound loss. Isn't just because it's all
this is in a different language and you kind of
all like, I guess I've constantly bunched it all together,
or like the sound sounded similar, which I can ask.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
You because you're a j I'll say this, which by
the time when I first moved here, I wasn't the DJ,
I say to me hearing it, it wasn't hip hop.
So yeah, it's like it's just different.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Before I do want to ask all jokes aside about
the Cosumigo's record, Like for so long a hip hop,
whether you know overtly or inadvertently, We've always kind of
been the ones to make things cool. When you think
about my dadas with Run DMC, think about Pastor Cavasier,
or you even think about what Jay did for Chrystal
(05:09):
and as Spade or are you ever thinking about that
when going into like or had I ever thought when
making a record like oh this could be an easy
brand play here or.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
I prefer well, if I do make a song with
a brand is already locked in. Do you know what
I'm saying? I wouldn't actually just do it to just
do it, oh unless I really like wh Yeah yeah,
so I'm assuming she really likes to drink, So the
song was already done. We did it. I've even got
I've made a song about Hennessy too.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
So yeah, did you guys get to collab at all
in person?
Speaker 4 (05:49):
No? So this was like on what's happened? Then we
met each other at the video shoot and then we've
been cool since.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
How that definitely you know.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
What Leanna.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
That she's timid, she's shy.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Yeh, that makes sense that two different sides. Yeah, that's
what's a side we will see. But when you actually
know what she was like? Quiet?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
So did she just turned it on at the video
shot the shoot?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
What do all the freaky women say? Right for the
get freaky?
Speaker 5 (06:19):
Oh my god?
Speaker 2 (06:21):
That makes all right? Now, all right now I'm sucking
using logic and now I'm in the y'all want I'll leave.
I'm that serious, Like I'm saying, she shin like that
tracks that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
That's surprising to me, but okay, that's that's what's up.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
She never had a freaking woman, all right?
Speaker 3 (06:43):
So all right, so you did the joy witha she shy?
Speaker 1 (06:52):
What was the what was shooting the music video?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Like?
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Shoot? And it was cool, man, It was just I
was just trying to understand her because it was a
shock to me that she was shay. So I had
to adjustin be that make it feel comfortable, like it's cool,
just do your thing and she doesn't needed to take
a couple of shots and then she was comfortable.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Yeah, okay, cool?
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Man, Oh listen you I thought you want me to
shut up. I was shutting up. So you do got
French Mantana on the remix? Do you think Shirtain Americana
on the drawing the remix? So you got French on
that remix or do you think it's a bit easier
to for afrobeat artists or world artists to work with
(07:42):
h Drake and French Like you see them. They're on
all the records, like they're on all the remake, They're
on all the records. Is it something just about their
sound and their cadence?
Speaker 4 (07:51):
And yeah, they they understand the song, because sometimes when
they don't get it and you're just putting it said
that just because of his name, it doesn't mean the
song is going to go farst It's going to be
like that one wow moment and then but DJ's are
not going to play it because it's not it doesn't
make sense sonically. But French, Montana Drake, the sued Les, etc.
(08:14):
They kind of have that vibe with them what I'm saying.
Even Rick Ross sometimes he's jumped on a few aphrobeats future.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
Of course, Yeah I gotta hit Yeah, Yeah, he's done
a few.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah, I've got to be an afrobeat legendary. I watch
on the records.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Even sleep Dog's done one, but this is years.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
We got to talk about that. I don't think that
was a good one. I never I don't think that
was good.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
This was years ago though, this was like I don't
know what year, this was sixteen.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Speaking of good, how do you think, Well, what do
you think about like Jake's Drake's patoa.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Patoa, Yeah, it works. Everyone puts pato in their songs.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
I feel like in the in the dancel obviously afrobeasts
even some sometimes records you might hear that influence in there.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
So they do it regardless. But I don't think Jamaican's mind.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
They don't.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
They do not, They really don't.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
They tell me it's English, but i'd be lost.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Yeah what Yeah, baking broken down and.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
If they ain't whatever, listen, they're not gonna ruin whatever
they say that that's what.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
It is not.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
They're not going to rum shrimp whatever it is. That's
what the fuck it is you that is. It's not
gonna be trying to tell these people what this is
why they got my jerk shrip over the hot coals.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
So you currently listen to what hip Hop Questions Legends
and list will be right back after this break. Since Joanna,
we've seen afrobeats or other afrobeat artists creep and breakthrough
from Whiz kids to burna boyd to Tams, A lot
of Nigerian artists. Actually, there's like some competition going on
(10:01):
in Africa.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Like their population is huge. There's Nigerians everywhere. So once
you're making noise in that territory, automatically with the diaspora,
whether it's in America, Europe, Asia, they're all building to
happen the streets and then from the streets it will
go to Well, now it's reached mainstream level because of
(10:22):
what happened in twenty nineteen, so it's it's easier for
Afro eyes. So just breakthrough.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
You feel like you get to just do for being
a guy to kind of usher it.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
It's going to start, It's going to begin. I didn't
want to talk my ship into release more music. You
got what I'm saying. So I feel that from now onwards,
that's what I'm going.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
To respect that. I feel like, yeah, a lot of
people in your position would have been like, at least
Americans would have been like no, because American niggas love
as an American, but like they we really like getting
our credit.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Yeah, yeah, I get it. I think it's a UK
thing to turn it down a bit.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Okay, yeah, it might be the beans.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
And then.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I heard that niggas.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
I don't know why you guys don't eat that man
for breakfast? Was wrong with you? You should try it?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
I'm not I refuse one day.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Try it. Absolutely, it's not both being beans for breakfast,
big beans and again for the mean.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
To start your energy beans is extreme. That's an aggressive
way to start my day. You like, I wake up
the first thing in my plate.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Is beanski for first of all in the morning, that
she cannot up in the morning coming man's heavy.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Now that's definitely now deep black, that's definitely racist for
you to say out of here, that's crazy. Just let
it with chickens. I do want to talk about because
I've never been I've never been over there. I only
know the American experience. But being you know, being out
there so many there's Jamaicans in London in the UK,
(12:04):
and then actually there's a lot of Nigerian culture over there. Yeah,
then you have to merge that with the UK culture.
Is there any for lack of a bed term, is
there any kerfuffle that takes place?
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Is it a rough? Is a rough? Merging those two?
Speaker 4 (12:23):
It's more of a unison. Now, before there was like
the clash between Jamaica and Nigeria, just like on the
ego level. But now that's all out the way. Man.
We're all blending in together making music. The artists are
making music together, we're eating each other's food. So it's cool.
But before it's Jamaica versus Nigeria all the time, because
that was allowedest and most proud, this less ego, so yeah,
(12:46):
it was just no, it doesn't happen anymore.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
So now are they more humble or is it just like.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Everyone's just doing their Jamaicans. Everyone's just doing their thing.
And before Dansa was really killing it, so viscar tell
those guys. And then aphrobeats aren't really there yet. And
then when they started to raise the levels. Okay, now
we can talk our ship kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Now it's forgive my ignorance. Now, afrobeats as we know it,
or at least over here, is now. But it's not
a new thing like it's been in Africa for years.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Yeah, but in Africa they don't call it afrobeats.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Okay. So there's so many countries in Africa and each
country has their own sound. So the sound that you
guys are used to is the Ghanaian yeah, and the
Nigerian sound, but they don't call it afrobeats. They just
call it whatever they call it. Sometimes it could be
like their earned hip hop, but to our is will
sound like afrobeats.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Wait wait, wait, they'll call it hip hop as in
like they're rapping.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
They're rappings. They are some of them, yeah, or some
of them could It could be like dancel like reggae.
But when we hear it, we're calling the aphrobeats because
you know how. But you might him singing past or something.
They might some people in Nigeria might call that danceful,
(14:08):
whereas his those approbutes. But that's the way easier.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
You got to relabel everything once it comes over. It's
just American. It's an American way.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
That's so bad.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
It's not bad. But what's this breaking it down? There
will be too many genres, will be confusing, So it
does make sense to have caull it aphrobets to have
a better understanding the sounds coming from Africa.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
You're the perfect person to break this down. Yeah, yeah, yeah, piano.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
So that's from South Africa. Okay, so that's the kind
of house that's kind of like how casting migo sounds? Okay?
All right, so yeah it's like usually one twelve, one eleven,
one thirteen, Yeah, bouncing dancing.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
But that is the new genre right.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
In, Yeah, fairly new. And what was the trending the
trending sound?
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Yeah, so diff talking about that, yeah they so yeah,
major laser it's happen the thing.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I'm glad you're here. So the thing right, the rether
THENT the rather than the UK African in the building. No.
So with what I've seen with world music, specifically afrobeats,
I'm piana as well as reggaetone is uh, there's so
much support behind these records, like you'll find like at
(15:28):
least me, I'll find a new artist, whether in Nigeria
where they're from, in Africa and they already have millions
of followers, but never we never heard them or they
have like two songs out. It's like, can you speak
if you can, if you have an insight, can you
speak about the support of I mean obviously you may
not know about the reggaetone community, but that once again,
same thing, like I think it's now the most stream
(15:50):
music or something. Those crazy like the last numbers that
they put out is the numbers like supporting that music
is crazy? Like can you speak about how that happens?
Speaker 4 (15:59):
So you have to look at the population. I think
I can't remember the specific number. What's the population in
the USA, like around three hundred yeah, so there's around
the same in Nigeria alone, and I feel I think
that's excluding.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
In Nigeria alone.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Yes, that's how many people. I think that's either excluding
the diaspora, excluding people that don't live there. So imagine
once you pop in that community where your music spreading.
So that's the same with the Latin world. There's there's
so many numbers. Yeah, so many Latin people that live
in New York, East West Coast wherever. So when it
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pops in their hometown Columbia, wherever they're from, it spreads
here and then all of our Latin friends are showing
us in music, and then we just pick it up
that way. So the same thing is happening here since
twenty nineteen, because now we're now we're used to the sound,
whereas before what was like what what what is this?
Speaker 5 (17:02):
I don't really understand it?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
So how did you like what was your target?
Speaker 5 (17:06):
When breaking Joanna my target.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Man, I didn't I didn't have a target. I was
just having fun and I won't ask to you there's
something I made quickly thirty minutes. But this was before
TikTok so I was doing who is Joanna made? As well?
What's one of your names?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
You made her up?
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Yeah? But with with with my genre, we we concentrate
more in the melodies and then we might pick up
words from the mumble or whatever we're saying, and then
that's when we add lyrics after Well, some people have
different processes, but that's mostly what most artists do.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
The same with dancer as well.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
I don't know if this applies in the UK, but
I know in like Africa and as far as piano genre,
like a lot of the DJs are breaking the sound.
And I know you're also a DJ too, So were
you responsible for breaking your own record?
Speaker 5 (18:09):
Like at the time, Yeah, I always play my own record.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
I'm on radio in London, so I'll be playing Spinning Spinning,
allegedly spinning it every day, well every every show, Yeah,
two hours every week on the Saturday.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Okay, sure you still have the show?
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:30):
What sure? Is it?
Speaker 4 (18:31):
This is called afro on Capital extras like the Power equivalent.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Wow, I had no idea. Yeah yeah, yeah, what came
in with the fake crutches? Why you got them crazy?
Speaker 3 (18:47):
This is our producer, Big.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Those crutches ain't real.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
Oh he didn't want to.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Bring it back to the accent old New York.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
They'd be doing that in London sometimes.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Just walking around with crocket. He just wanted a better
parking spot, That's what that was.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
So okay, I guess I'm trying to get a better
understanding of this worldview of music and London with afrobeats
already a thing.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Yeah, afrobeats, afrobeats in London, Yeah it.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Is, but we have a understanding of the different sounds
that are coming from different places.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
So I'm not Nagean. I'm from Ivory Coas.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
That's a whole different part, French speaking part right next
to Ghana. So is what I'm doing is unusual?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
The name of the country is Avory Coach.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Yeah, so I'm kind of like the alien because I'm
speak singing in English and I'm from a French speaking
country and I'm doing afrobeats, which is dominated by Nigerians
and gane Ins.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
Yeah, so it's just like ah, where did this guy
come from?
Speaker 4 (19:52):
But from the UK? I'm already friends with all these
different cultures. That's why I played the part on my
sound and.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Spreading spreading it too, Yeah, yeah, because I think you're
the only artists that I know from the Ivory Coast,
and then Akon's only when I know from Senagog.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
And then like that's it. Everybody else is.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
From from the French park the French part.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Okay, yeah, now that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
You're now listening to the what hipop questions legend listen
will be right back after the break. Do you have
lama asks? Do you ever get tired of hearing your song?
Like it depends where I am in a spot, like
you know all, I'm sorry, no not you, but New
York radio sucks. So like when there's a song that
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breaks through, you're gonna hear it forever, like Sunday Show,
Saturday definitely Still if you're listening on Breakfast Club, it's
it's still plays and they be doing drops like it's
and now ever, nigga, we know the song, we know
the song. Why are you telling not just playing this song?
Or like sometimes you're in the club and DJ's not
(20:59):
NI attack the DJ I'm just talking about in general. Okay,
DJs have their records, they have their set that they're
gonna play, like, yeah, these niggas uck. So it's like, oh,
play this record, play now, like are you having this fine? Be?
Like if I hear this ship one more time?
Speaker 4 (21:15):
It depends why I am in London I'm tired of it.
But out here it's because I'm going to raise in London,
but got my songs spinning in this other territory.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
And I'm saying, are they say the DJ is trash
like that?
Speaker 4 (21:28):
And they're not. They're cool. They play up to date.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Stuff that was a shot.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
No, no, no, it wasn't a shot in the US.
Yet they're better with breaking records over in the US,
you think so?
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Yes, in the UK they play what's popping already they.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
Have a smaller place.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
I feel like they do here.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
No, here they break records now to keep the buck.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
What was the last record you can remember radio A
DJ breaking.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
The Africa ones, tusche what the Affro songs? They broke
it here?
Speaker 2 (22:02):
I feel maybe is anything else I would can I
would attribute to the internet. But if you're saying afrobeats
and you all right, yeah, I always thought about that
because it's like that, you have one of the biggest
songs ever at this point, so it's like they're gonna
play it, especially here. I know the words. I mean,
(22:24):
I know what you're saying, but I know the words.
That's how much they played.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
We talked about the influence of afrobeats but also mouse
especially you know about this the production standpoint from London
New York. Drill Yeah, drill, yeah, has been very influenced
by the producers in London at start.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Yeah. So yeah, as you know pop smoke, he took
the sound from the UK, did this twist to it,
and I think it sounds good. I like the US
drill the twist to it.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
So yeah, actual actually get actual coming a crow was
probably the best thing that ever happened in New York City.
But does that so? But over there are they now
leaning more towards the drill that we're doing over here
or they.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
It's the same beat. Okay, they're all the same instrumentals,
just the flows are different.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
But they're talking about the same the same subject matter.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Yeah, to be honest, But so UK are doing more,
They're leaning more towards the dance that Dance Challenge drives
on the.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Drill, Okay, okay, I mean they do, and I think
I think.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
That kind of sight with pop Smunk when it was
doing that whole Yeah, let's think that that's bad.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
That's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
That was terrible.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
It was him. It was him and that guy called
Russ Russ millions, another guy who millions.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah, that was way better than his.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
He's a London rapper too, right.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Yeah, London.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
I would say, you know, people put a negative connotation
around drill and even like hip hop, it could be
violent and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
But I feel like where.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Afrobeats is like good, positive energy. Do you have any
like reservations. We're doing collaborations with hip hop artists because
of that.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
As long as he as long as the song sounds
good man, and if they come in, if they if
artists from that world want to make afrobeats, I don't
even they wouldn't do a hard hitting topic will be
about love or making money on something. Those are the
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main subjects for.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
There are fault Are there white artists trying to do
afrobeats as of yet they're trying? Yeahs Biba Whoao.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Not peaches his collabs with a few his collab with
a few Afro Ed Shuran.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
You gotta collab with ed Shuran because he's on everything.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
But they're not their feature. I'm talking about like white
artists trying to.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Do not that artist was doing it that past.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
I think he's mixed though, but he's white.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
White.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
There's another one too that I follow that that's white
who does it?
Speaker 1 (25:24):
But I think they're African. They're just white African?
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Yes, South Africa? Is that?
Speaker 5 (25:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:30):
I don't ever want to see that. It doesn't sound
bad start to protest.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Is that like like when we get white rappers in America,
it's a thing like, oh, white rapper?
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Is it the same over there?
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Not?
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Really, No, it depends on the song. Depends on the
song that the song has to smash. Yes, no, we
don't really have that.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Well we haven't seen it yet, So spread on that behalf.
It hits wanted, it hits it hit it is hit
you right, if you're good, you're good. I thought peatures
of afrobeaching till this day. Y'all just told me. I
really it sounds to me a child all right.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
I will say this. I feel like Nigerian speak you roba.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Yeah, this hell of other languages. Thats but just one track.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
When does the speak? Because he got me speaking that I.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Need to find I'm pretty sure Zerova as well.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
I'm like, I don't know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
I would love someone to come and be like, yo,
you're talking about like what is the song?
Speaker 4 (26:38):
But I think that means laid down, laid down and
get ready to smash or something like that.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Look a, you've been going around saying that the old ladies.
You can't say that for your grandmother.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
It's anty, so it doesn't sound like it.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
We'll be having a good time. You alread you go
over there.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Up, laid down and get ready to smash.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Yeah, I remember again told that there's along those lands anywhayesh.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I do like just the elements of English and then.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
It goes into yeah, mixed Eurobo or whatever they're speaking,
and now I feel like I'm learning a new language.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Are you going to do that with your French?
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Yeah? Yeah, I'll do from French here from French records.
Yeah I am, because that's a whole group that that
lacked my stuff. So I need to tap into the
like there's different territories that I need to tap into.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
You like simple so that wow, tell the artists what
to do?
Speaker 1 (27:43):
No, No, I'm as like, can you make it? So?
Like what's the record?
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Well Joanno's one that does covered everyone?
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yeah, but no there's another. What's that all that says hello?
And like five different language?
Speaker 6 (27:57):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Ken Jones one?
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Can you do it where it's French? But then I
still know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
Like, well, like a bonjou or something like that.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Don't listen, but the thing is to the French, that
thing will be cheesy. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
Okay, yeah, I'll work out. Are they like what you
was going to do?
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I mean I feel like I'm new to world music,
like I'm new to exactly.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
You're not new anymore Many twenty.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Three now, I'm still new.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
When I went to Ghana this for New Year's Eve,
I was like, I don't know none of this.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Oh yeah yeah, they want to play some deep ship.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
What Andedurant was on everything, I was shocked.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
He's been in it.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
He's been in it deep before crazy, He's in deep.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
So who are some American artists that you're working with?
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Working with rich the kids of what with Tea paying before,
what's slim Jimmy before us us more to come anyway,
okay to come?
Speaker 1 (29:02):
And in the UK, I feel like the UK R
and B scene right.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Now is I so need to tap into it. I've
been out here so I've kind of been out of
the lute. So it's unly this ship.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Well, I've been trash RMB on the shot of trash.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
This side you fixed so Cizon then.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
I never said she wasn't. I never said I never.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Said the argument.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
I never said.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Argument that they was telling me that Sis isn't hip
hop artist hip hop?
Speaker 3 (29:37):
What I said, thank you? I love how nigga just
give half the story.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
That's not what y'all. Y'all said that hip.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Hop under the hip hop?
Speaker 2 (29:45):
What do you think as.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
R and B? Summer Lady R and B? What scis?
Speaker 1 (29:53):
The question was the man. The question wasn't R and B.
The question was that you fall under the hip hop umbrella.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
No, I wouldn't put.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
What she signed the t d E.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
What does that means since it's a label, bro whatever.
Speaker 6 (30:11):
Hip hop being the culture rapping the music in the music,
hip hop is.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Take steak, R and rap make up hip hop Mary J.
Blige hip hop.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
No, she's not mixedure mixture. What do you say?
Speaker 4 (30:26):
You just she did classic?
Speaker 5 (30:29):
She dibbles and doubles. Man, but she's R and B
doesn't know, she's just doesn't.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
We can't.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
We can't compare three dres on her project. And she's
not an R.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
And B artist, She's a pop artist.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
Now we gotta we gotta rap, so you want to
these guys.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Artist has to wrap? You even wrap rap? Did it?
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Once her name was called? Her name was?
Speaker 4 (30:54):
They have to wrap?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Din't even call her something? Mary J.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Blige, brooks wrapping on the intro? What's the four one one?
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Is she really one time? Is she really like spoken word?
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Okay, I'm not gonna call hip hop hop?
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (31:12):
You know what I'm gonna do. Play Joanne again?
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
You're gonna get a billion on one stream. Goddamn, you
gotta get another stream from Brooklyn. You look at them
analytics and they say, fucking Brooklyn New played this record
thirty thousand times today because of that right there?
Speaker 4 (31:30):
My god.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
I had we do a lot of lists on the show.
Top five London based rappers.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
Top five London based You got a school list?
Speaker 2 (31:39):
On this.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
You gotta school the US first and then London.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
He wants to.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Yeah, yeah, I like this five five for me and
you wanna go US five jay Z smart, Biggie Smart.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
This is a pestle one for me DMX smart mix.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
This guy New York, Oh business my business? Do not Yeah,
they are mind your business. Do not badger the witness.
He's he's saying what he said. I'll put nonsense there,
don't say ship.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I like this guy. You like this guy like you've
been saying nonsense there.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
But jay Z has a smashes he's going to he's
a big jay Z.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
I don't know what he said.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
No, I want to I want to use that jay
Goddamn there.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Jay Z hasn't hits.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
No, no, you said something else.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
The smashes, Yeah, the smash the smashes brok as smashes.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Bro This one's personal to me, this one fifty cent.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
I just have to say that.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Yeah, they say Tupac, we're good. Heduac. This episode wasn't
coming skill.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
I'll put Biggie before.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Why do you disrespect Tupac like that?
Speaker 4 (33:01):
I'm not disrespect him.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
And he's all the way from across the Pond and
he gave us what five New York niggas. I'm just saying,
stop talking about buying.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
But you don't listen to any Southern artists.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Not that made this top five?
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Move on, thank you what we're doing like honorable mentioned future,
then another.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Great I love this guy.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
I love this guy and endless hits, endless hits.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Why do we waste the one to have your mad
like over there to talk to this nigga, he's amazing,
endless hits.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
I give you, give me a UK.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
List, give him the except for when to get to that?
Speaker 6 (33:40):
Now you talk about some of the UKs okay uk uh,
stop playing a.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
U k u k u k Damn.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
He's a guy called Rech free To I've heard of.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
Yeah, I've heard of. Damn. There's some good. There's some
underground ones that you might not.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
No, I'm not gonna know anybody else.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Five wretch god Damn. Can I include grime as well?
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Yeah? Put it on.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
That's an artist.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
No, that's a different genre that guys expert.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
That's what Skepta does.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Yes, oh, Skeptic the grime artist.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Yeah, put I'll put I'll put Chip, a guy called Chip,
I'll put Skeptic as well, Skeptics versatile Latin song with
asap rookie as well. I like skep uh. You guys
know ka right from top Boy.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
I'm a little Sims fan.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
Oh yes, Simpsons hard, I'll put Sims there.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
You know.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
Really she's good on the show, the list, on the list, Yeah,
Simpsons called she's dope.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Really that's five.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah, I know we're gonna have heard Wretch before, heard
the Wretch crazy.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
As well. Another one he's like in Wretch's camp.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Okay, and the boy what's the nipples?
Speaker 1 (35:22):
I don't like this guy.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
I got so excited too because I'm like nip Nipper. Yeah,
he's fire Nipper a d he's fire he's that niggas
a heater now he wear the same outfit every day.
But that's just because he has I need to take
him in.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
He's a he must be my guy.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Ken him though nippers fire like, oh yeah, fire like.
I listened to that ship or a link that ship
every week. He's fired.
Speaker 5 (35:53):
That made this song with Blust.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
You got a record with Black like he's he was
like a UK version of Blast. Oh he's like singing.
He could sing, but he'd be singing about the street
ship he got. He got a little movement with him.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Yeah, I love that he.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Got a little braid. He got a little braids though,
So I like when all this got little braids, because
they get they hungry when they break in some hangtime,
they don't be.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
What the meat mill.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Now when they braids get a little long and they
don't be hungry no more, they start being regular. So
when they got like little braids and start up here,
they be hungry. They needed it to be fire.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
I go with your sound.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
It's okay if you don't know.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
I have the same braids when he's liketed.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Remember Nigga had dirty braids.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
Hungry, was hungry.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Man, My brain still, my brain still clean, So I
might not be hungry. Give me a week or two,
I'll be hungry.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
I'll record all week. I see you switched your hair up.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
Round, man, I I just wanted to come different.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Oh you didn't have it. You didn't have to split before?
Speaker 4 (36:49):
No, No, I just had the normal. Literally did did
this yesterday? A random Are you gonna keep it low?
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Are you gonna grow it up?
Speaker 4 (36:57):
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
You kind of have to have afro kind of in it.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
It's afrobeats. After going down, I feel like if I
got iron that would be too much girl.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Listen, no such thing.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
It might work.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Your name is afro b.
Speaker 5 (37:11):
I know you know I have the power to the
people type of afro But.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
Yeah I did.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
During the pandemic though, everybody it was crazy.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Nigga niggas working out those head fold mind.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
I was looking Nigga's growing up.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
God, what the fuck is going on here?
Speaker 5 (37:32):
Crazy going on?
Speaker 3 (37:33):
This was great, It was really great having you. This
is my last I guess question, what do you think?
What do you Where do you think world music is going?
Like in the direction now that we're getting a blend
of like you're doing French on records with American artists
and then you're doing Soca records, Like, where do you
think we're going?
Speaker 4 (37:52):
I think it'll be more established in the mainstream world.
I still think some people are learning the genre, but
it's just a expanding that more songs are adding to
DJ playlist. So I think the artists need to keep
releasing and just added to the playlist, and the more
DJ's learned the songs and spin it, it's just going
to spread that way.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
We got to hypnotizer.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
What did that look like when you say that the
music itself would be more established, What it looks like
you're thinking, like more be an industry around afrobeats kind
of like right now afrobeats benefits from the music or
hip hop industry or this whole industry. Do you think
there's going to soon be an industry centered around afrobeachs?
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Like yeah, exactly that so afrobeach labels, because right now
there's events that happen, but it's still kind of underground
that not everyone knows about it, that the African Americans.
But I feel like it'll get to a point where
everyone just wants to go to the same events, and
we'll get to that point.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
I would love that.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Well, yeah, all of us going to the same like
instead of having Coachella and Afroella.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Yeah one, no, no, keep the white people over there,
keep celebrating Afro. It's afro for a reason.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Start trying.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Y'all didn't learn from the sixties. When you're segregate, you
get this show.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
All right, all right, all right, all right, day.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Way I had afro beas and make them come over there.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
But music, so everyone music, I'll be I'll be having
shows there's no black people dead. Sometimes should look rough.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
They be off beating. It was true, they be off
like a mother.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
No, it was a good feeling that just to see.
Sometimes it's white people having a good sound.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
White people clapp so bolently.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Oh my god, everybody.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Went hitting their.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Im.
Speaker 6 (39:49):
Sorry sorry, I think you know, at the end of
a movie, they always dedicate something to somebody, So I
think we should dedicate this episode to Harry Bellfonte, who
passed away today. First probably the first world music artist
to make success in America.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Way to bring it home in that up.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
Now, that was.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Abstract, but I like it.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Thanks for having me man stream casts Amigos Skia out
and now put it in my car, big up man.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Damn we should have as No.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
We should.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
Yeah, we took a shot.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
Had I don't drink, but ye be found quick as well.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
You know you might not want to working record.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
Drink fifty cent? Does that though? That's a whole everybody.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Throw everybody drink, Throw everybody under the bus.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
Now you mother had to watch.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Motherfucker ever drinker Bell, I knew you had to watch
UK mother.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
How does be about this?
Speaker 5 (40:59):
You're actually right about that?
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Yeah a brand. Hey, I ain't mad at I'm gonna
do the same. Fifty Man Hennessy come over here, right
down to about mouth ship. George Clue called me, want
you want to do some like Batman suck?
Speaker 3 (41:15):
But pout everybody on me on that note, Batman sucks,
but the what didn't.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Got Batman forever because it's a.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
Lot of Batman.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Batman Forever suck, but what didn't.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
So make sure you guys like share, subscribe and come
back next Monday for another episode.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
The next time.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Oh and I just told you I just got a
text message. Next week we'll have Joe Inn on. Yes, Yeah,
it's on. Yeah, We're gonna find we interview on her
her side man every time.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
I she's from the Bronx. I'm jakin, I'm Jacob.
Speaker 5 (42:00):
Buddy.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
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