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April 3, 2023 67 mins

Nyla, Mouse and producer D- Block list the top Storytelling rap songs of all time. Find out how many of Biggie’s classics cracked our list. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up, guys, and welcome to the What hip Hop
Questions Legends and List. I am Nila Simone and I am.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
The man to puts the Juncks and juxon position. Mounts Jones, Hey, this.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Be on it and I'm excited because we have a
lot to talk about.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
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The agenda is no longer a gender, but you don't
have to talk about that. They don't know what I'm
talking about. That's fine, you know what I'm talking.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
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right now, I gotta cash in. I have to cash in,
so that's what I'm doing. But really, I just have
a few things going on today, so I just I
thought I woul address up a little more.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
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Speaker 1 (00:41):
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me feel like Aliyah.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Come on, boy, I've been watching you.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
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like it might be. Honestly, the videos so.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
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you practice the baby sound doing.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
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Speaker 2 (01:13):
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Speaker 1 (01:17):
That's exacinitely the last.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Oh my god, speaking of TV film stuff, this so
Jonathan may.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Man, what are we doing? Oh? We're here? It's crazy
vindication for that black man?

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Vindication? Are they really going to give him vindication?

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Are you ever really vindicated when you get these type
of allegations.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
One thing I love about today is the same thing
that we hate about today, these fucking phones. Video footage
will always vindicate the word of mouth. Don't do ship.
When video footage drops, everybody will.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Get there dropping footage.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
They're dropping the footage. What the attorney said.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
I love that good. I just I hate that this happened,
especially right now, like they're on a Pinnacle Creed three
was amazing, amazing, and then now that now this, I'm like,
of course they just can't let the king.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Is that why you didn't want to go see the
movie yesterday?

Speaker 3 (02:09):
No?

Speaker 2 (02:10):
No, I still go okay, because we were supposed to
go yesterday.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
And you didn't text me back what it was. How
dare he try to act like like I'm the reason
why we didn't go to the movies. I said, Yo,
were still going to the movies or what I know?
We got an early recorded right.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
And he didn't taket me.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
Back after I did. That's what that's on me. I'm
not always the best.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
That is why I don't like light skin.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
I'm not light skin about okay?

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Anyway? So today, oh shut down, absolutely not. You know
what I'm not anyway?

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Today on what we're gonna be talking about top five
best storytelling records.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
A favorite topic of mine.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
This is a hard one.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Honestly, I thought it was gonna be easy, but I'm like, damn,
there's so many.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
There's so many, there's a lot, there's so many.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Let's get into it, all right, guys, it's to what
hip hop questions. Let us listen.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Today we're talking top five best storytelling rap songs. But
I want to know Mouse and d Block like to you, guys,
what makes a good storytelling record?

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Oh? I mean one telling a story? Yeah? Got to
tell a story. Yeah, you know it's right there. Sometimes
you got to take it right there or make forgure
that's good, doing more than enough, but not doing too

(03:33):
much right where Like.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
I think when people get just to do a good storytelling,
you don't have to.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Have like the greatest lyrical decksterity. You just have to
be able to keep somebody's attention for three minutes, right.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
So I think sometimes the lyrical miracle rappers do a
little bit too much.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
I'm not the hate like that type of rap. I
like it.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
I'm just saying some time they can do too much
and you lose people because you have to keep people attention.
I think, to be honest, I would love to hear
a storytelling record from like g Z.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
I think GIZ does it good.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
I think GZ does it like an amazing job of
keeping you captivated and engaged throughout songs. I would love
to hear him just tell one story, which he kind
of did on this last mixtage with Drama, talking about
I think it was like something Michael Jackson cry. I
think that's the name of the song he's talking about. No,

(04:34):
it's says not the name of song. I forgot named
the song. But he's talking about like his homeboys, all
his friends passing. Sure, it wasn't like one linear storyline
about one person, but it's still it's stayed on topic.
So I would have loved to hear more stuff like
that from him. But I just think being able to
keep someone's attention almost like writing a movie, you know,
being able to keeping me on the edge of my

(04:56):
seat for the next word.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yeah, I agree, nothing black.

Speaker 5 (05:01):
I was just gonna say, just like any story beginning,
middle and end, you know, I think that middle part
sometimes gets lost as far as like creating those steaks.
I think that's why Biggie does such a good job
on a lot of his storytelling wraps is that he
has that middle park that kind of gets you, gets
that has the stakes in it, you know, especially now
I got a story to tell, you know, that middle

(05:21):
part where the man walks in, man walks in and
he has to figure out what to do.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
You know.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Yeah, I think for me, I really like like records
that evoke emotion. So like you're telling the story of
maybe something I've been through, or like something somebody I
know has run away.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
I don't know. I don't know why that jump. I
don't know why that jumped.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Not bad, You've been practicing something that's familiar.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Who's inspired that? No, you said something that special? Yeah,
something that's familiar, something that I'm like, Damn.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
I feel this.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
So that's what that's what gets me going when it
comes to storytelling records.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
So let's start off.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Let's do it. Start with me you first, Yeah, come.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
On, I know, right, it's so hard to pick.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah, I was gonna say, can we do honorable mentions?

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Are you guys doing a specific order?

Speaker 2 (06:14):
I have mine in order.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
My one is just the one and then the rest of.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
Your number one is your number one, two, three, four, five, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Mine is in order.

Speaker 5 (06:24):
Let's get some honorable mentions out.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
So my honorable mention is Keisha song.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Wait, can we do honorable mentions at the end, because
I don't know who's going to.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Make my five?

Speaker 2 (06:33):
See, get your shit together.

Speaker 6 (06:36):
You can name one that's not gonna make your five, Okay,
yeah I can't.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
Actually I'm gonna say Keisha song by Kendrick Lamar.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
That is like it's not on my five.

Speaker 4 (06:45):
But it's it's a it's a huge, huge favorite of mine,
like since SEC Like, I think you had two records
on section eighty that were like super heavy and storytelling.
I want to say it was that song and Timmy song.
Tamn song obviously was a little bit more playful, you know,
like with the whole. You know, the girl ended up
turning you know, queer at the end. But Keisha song

(07:09):
just you know, telling that story of the young prostitute.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Kenrick actually has a ship little His first album is
one big story, like I love it. Even his early
mixtape it's too many. But that's that's a good one.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, what about you the honorable mentions.

Speaker 5 (07:28):
I put something that's a little fun just a Friend
by bis Marky. Yeah, just a great story.

Speaker 6 (07:35):
Stop Tomato Tomato for that on the what we're talking
about the greatest we're talking about that time the.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
New Generation flipp did the commercial.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
That had Mark Did that song stand at tot time?
I did the Or did Mario's remix stay at touch Time? No?

Speaker 5 (07:56):
Not Mario remix.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Mario's remix?

Speaker 3 (07:59):
Absolutely whoa wa wait to show wait to show your
age block?

Speaker 2 (08:09):
No, Marry what are you ready for me? Bridge? You
called me anytime? You ooh any time?

Speaker 7 (08:20):
Said it doesn't matter whoa whoa whoa.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Don't fight the feeling. Don't fight the feeling. So oh girl,
and they not doing that. They're not doing that. But
we should change the.

Speaker 5 (08:35):
Name of this podcast to wash Young and somewhere in the.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Middle and somewhere in the middle.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
What about you, Ana listens, we're just putting anything up
there now.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Wait, that's your only one.

Speaker 5 (08:48):
I got misfat Booty by most stuff too as your
honorable mention. But there's another honorable mention that I think
we need to talk about what you better not say it.
Stan is a good storytelling song.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
The Tomatoes Today, Derek got all.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
All yours today. It's a good story. Though. It's a
good story, good story end. I mean, if a black
man wrote that, he'd be locked up.

Speaker 5 (09:17):
I gotta say, I.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
Think form a movie another similar.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
What the FU.

Speaker 5 (09:27):
When Clark Kent was on here, he talked about Kendrick
and Eminem's similarities, a sense that he's talking about stuff
that's unspoken right in white, white families. So it is,
I know, I didn't think over all. I think the
worst part about stan Is is when Eminem comes into

(09:47):
the song at the end. I think the guy from
the point of view of the fan, when he comes
in at the end, it feels kind of like milk
toast to me.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
It feels like, I mean, like that song doesn't live
without that, the song does not connect her. But yeah,
that song doesn't that So Sharper. You know, it's like, yeah,
but I'm saying it was.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
That song doesn't become the hit it does without that,
like because no one was, no one's playing, no one's
playing that song.

Speaker 5 (10:16):
There's also am of like and we should be together,
just like all that ship that he was going out there.
Stan became a part of the vernacular after that. Yeah,
you know, I think it's a very it's a you know,
it's a great song. It's not my top five.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Though it sounds like it's close to your.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
I say that I would go with Lupe Fiasco. Paris Tokyo.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
It's one of my favorites.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
You don't like Paris Tokyo.

Speaker 5 (10:42):
I thought you're gonna say Kick Push.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
Kick pushes one too. But I like Paris Tokyo because I.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Just feel like I want them to ann.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Anyway.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
I love Faris Tokyo is one of my favorite records
just in general, because it's a guy who's saying I'm working,
but you're still with me, like in spirit, and then
eventually she does actually get to go with him to
like Paris into Tokyo and travel the world and as
he makes money on music, and I just fuck with
it because I am a girl who's working and making

(11:14):
money on music, so I feel it.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
So anyway, Wow, I don't like.

Speaker 5 (11:18):
Your parents the other any other outsideer. Do you want
to get to that layer?

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Neither.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
I guess I'll go with ice Cube. Today was a
good day.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Okay, wow wow, Okay, that's goode. I'm not mad. I
also would like to say I forgot to mention what
we mean you talked about slow down that I think
about it is Brandy Brand Nubian like yeah, like that's yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
That's don't let it go to your head.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
That's the other one, because I feel like it's half storytelling,
half not ishue. But I listen to that record a
lot when I just be looking at the culture and
things that it's happening.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Or just I want y'all know Niledge thirty.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
When I interact with certain people, I just be like,
she's been here before, this brand Nuvian to get my
mind right, because these niggas is crazy.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
We're out here listening and touching Monday and good she's doing.

Speaker 5 (12:16):
Some Internet nerds realized the actual day ice Cy was
talking about. They put it all together.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
What day was off?

Speaker 5 (12:22):
The day is February twenty third, nineteen ninety three.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
The Lakers, because last night it's actually pretty easy.

Speaker 5 (12:28):
Oh you have to do it all points and looked
at all of it.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
Oh you have it's not hard at all. Last night
the Lakers beat the SuperSonics. So all you have to
do is look up the night the Lakers beat the SuperSonics.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Shake them up, shake them up, shake them up, shake
them throw it in a circle.

Speaker 5 (12:43):
It's a little and authentic. Got a triple double?

Speaker 2 (12:47):
No, it's not.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
Sometimes that let me know you won't be playing basketball
with the homies, because sometimes.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
It just be your day and it feels like you
fucked around and got a triple double. And it might
not have been a strong double. Ten ten tents, might
have been ten turnovers, might have had ten turnovers tennis
is and you might have got blocked ten times. But
you fucked around and you got a triple double. We
didn't say. He didn't say what kind of triple double?

Speaker 5 (13:14):
It was true, that's true.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Can we start with my number five or I number one?
Number five?

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Because my number one is so important to me and
I would be pissed if y'all said, hold on, let
me get to these tomatoes. Oh, he's ready because I
put some young niggas on here because I knew y'all
was it.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
I love the show.

Speaker 5 (13:38):
This is Wash.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
What why Wash the Young One? And somewhere in the
middle of featuring the Wash the Young.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
One and soon as long as everyone knows who's h.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
I am definitely young somewhere.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
No, no, you have to fuck now, it's somewhere lost.
All right, let's do it. I'll kick it off. My
number five The Artist Storytelling by alcas I love that
I love me personally, I love cohesiveness, and I love
I mean outcast is my I've said this with a
multiple occasion Outcast of my favorite group. But as a

(14:20):
kid growing up in New York, I didn't hear those stories.
I didn't hear it that way.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
You hit You know that one hundred three thousand verse
probably one of my one of my favorite hundred three
thousand verses, just talking about the young girl, like there
was just so much stuff nuanced that I was hearing
that you didn't expect to hear from a person from
the South. And you know that might have been just
my young ignorance at the time. I also love that
the artist storytelling isn't the only artist storytelling.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
It's four of them.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
Yeah, and each one I don't know about two, but
each one two is not my favorite.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
But like three and four.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
That's the one with no.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
I think that's three. Three has Lickoric. Four is him
and the drama. No, I don't think so.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
The artist storytelling much is on my list. Is the
story of two women, Susie Screw Susie's and Sasha and Thumper.
Sasha he calls her Thumper because she's one is a
very promisciuous woman. The other is a drug. I think
it's I think it's a great song.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
Like I said, you don't hear those stories, you know
what I mean, Like you weren't hearing those stories. And then,
like I said, there's something about that southern drawl that
Andre three thousand was in the middle of, like crafting
at the time, that just literally pulls you in.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
Oh you know what, he's on part one.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
He's on the first one, I think a sample. Oh okay,
but slick Rick is on the third one.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
You're not on the second. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
No, that's a that's a great one. That's definitely on
my list too. But this is on your list. I'm
taking it off my list, so I can just give
you somebody else favorite line and that song su.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
I think that I think that intro my favorite, just
the way he played with the the way.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
He sung it, the cadence. I don't know if I
have a favorite. To me, it's not one of those.
It's like, I goes back to what I was saying
earlier about lyrical deckstery. I don't think it was so
much that the line. There were favorite lines.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
It was the through line that got me, like as
if I was watching a movie and then hearing, you know,
hearing big boys look, hearing Andrea's look, and then I
really loved the way Andre brought in his verse. So
the girl name said, like it just was like okay.
It was like.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
It was like sitting in a bathtub and just letting
the water fill up, if that makes sense, right, Like
You're just okay, I'm comfortable. I'm here wherever you want to,
wherever you want to take me, I'm going at this point,
production was phenomenal. You want to be when you grow up,
she said, she said, she said alive, She said, I

(16:54):
want to be alive.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
I really liked the beginning. It's this small thing that
I love.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
That what from the drop, I'm ready for nihilist production. Yo.

Speaker 5 (17:02):
I love that that whole organized?

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Was it organized?

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Organized? Noise?

Speaker 1 (17:09):
Beautiful? What makes their production so great? I think to me,
it's just like you could.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
Hear the soul and the beats absolutely once they start
rapping on it, It's just like magic that China.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
It was all there, and then the end with like, yeah,
actually know some of.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
The skins blow on me. I'm like, this should have
been on the album where you can like skip it,
not on the song where I got here the whole thing. Whoa,
You're so disrespectful And I'm not even talking about this
on the mis education Lauren.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
I've always got to hear a skit. I'm so tired
of hearing that.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
L Oh, what's happening here?

Speaker 1 (17:45):
I love love, Heaven'll been in love every t.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
J.

Speaker 5 (17:52):
I can understand when it's coming.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Are you so you love them? I love you? Yes?

Speaker 4 (17:59):
My thing with skin you if you put it on
the album, you gotta live with it. So when you
got to skip that works, you need it, You've got
to skit that doesn't work?

Speaker 1 (18:08):
You keep this?

Speaker 2 (18:09):
No, the album is not do you remember? I?

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Oh, God, don't give it skip its own track.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
I guess it's because it's a part of the song.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
Yeah, But now when I'm trying to put it on
a playlist, you got a whole skit leading into the
song that I know.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
You got to go into app Let me tell you,
go into Apple like we used to do back and
day and you you you remember we used to.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
Be able to go yeah on iTunes, used to be
able to scrub you could. You used to be able
to change the time, so do that. Well, I don't
know if you can still do it on iTunes, but
back in the day you could. You remember when I'm
talking about like it used to be, like if the
song is like five minutes, you could go in there
and stop the song at like three.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Well, that's great.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
I don't know if you can still do that on
my playlist, like I can't with these skits, Like you can.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
Do it if it's downloaded to your computer computer, not
if it's like on Apple Music.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
Got it.

Speaker 5 (18:55):
But speaking of skits, with daylight back in all our minds,
three high and the eyes and skit is what the
whole game show that's happened?

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yeah, I will say, And even from listening to the
Daylight record, Daylight Album, Like it's making me a fan
of scratching, like I've always wanted to know, just so
hip hop pers or DJ Puris can't come and be.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Like you're not ready to.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
But now it's like I actually like it sonically in
the music. I know when I hear it like on air,
i'd be like, do less and just play the record.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
But it's a time and the place, and I think
it was done well.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
The hope, the hope, Remember you asking me the favorite
the hook, the holk, the Hooklet y'all get the hunk
your back. Now it's like that and like that, and
it took me a lot of Let me also say
this because I know sometimes you know, our peers can

(19:47):
be on these platforms and do sometimes accidentally or even
on purpose, sound like you know historians.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
Like yeah, I'm a historian a different way where like
it didn't hit me. I didn't know what the fuck
they was talking about for the longest.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
It didn't hit me until but because like I told
you before, like my introduction to outcast was music videos
that would like like on rap City and then be
in my house.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
I don't know if you remember that, but I know
you do, so like being my house would be like, well,
I guess you know, being older now you realize like
all the labels would have all these printed up CDs
and whatever then sell obviously they would have in a warehouse,
and then you can like subscribe to the CDs place,
so you you'd get like what was it that deep black? Sorry,

(20:34):
you get like ten CDs for like ninety nine cent,
and then the next time you'd order, like I guess,
you'd pay full price, and then you got like another
sixteen for like six cent. So like like Columbia Records,
there was like Columbia House, there's Columbia, there was being Mine,
there's somebody else.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
But yeah, so that's how I got at Aliens.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
And so I had At Aliens as a CD as
a kid, I didn't I'm just like like the music.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
I didn't know what the hell was going on.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
And like Outcast just every time they were on my TV,
they fucking grabbed my attention, like whether it was like me, you,
your mom, cousin too, very like cadlag Dog, like just
everything about them always encapsulated.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yeah, so it's like yeah, there go again, talking that ship.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
My duck, Like yeah, we're talking about two guys who don't.
They don't really get their credit. They don't get the
credit they deserve.

Speaker 5 (21:34):
Big boys workplaces.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Like he's phenomenal. But I think that just happens.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
And I've been you know, I've been a victim of
it as well, Like I've just jumped off the boat
and been.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Like, oh, I just think that's the greatest, which I
do believe.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
I do believe one hundred three thousand is top three
greatest lyricists of all time. But man, big boy does
not get his credit for one just being as nice
as he is too, standing next to one hundred three
thousand being just as nice as he is.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
So that's a good one. So you currently listen to
what hip hop questions, legends and lists will be right
back after this break.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
What you got now?

Speaker 5 (22:13):
What you got?

Speaker 3 (22:15):
So for my number five, I'm just get this out
the way.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Here we go.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
It's J Cold Lights.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Please are you? And you know what Jacob want another
one that I would just put Kamma J Cole lights
please Comma sideline story and I have to put you
don't like sideline story.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
You're these are yours? These are your pick. I'm just saying,
he has songs that you are just skipping over.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Which one do you think should be.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
It Dreams Dreams?

Speaker 1 (22:44):
No, that's the one where he killed the boy. Yes, yeah, that's.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Not you Got Dreams and then knows the other one Enchanted.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Oh I love Enchanted, but yeah it's.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Not my pick five. I just said that.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
So I'm going with J Cold Lights Please because that's
the first J Coot record I ever heard, and you
know that's my favorite rapper, so it's just like, yeah, yeah,
you see it now, So.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Love Cold Lights Please.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
And then I also really like Sideline Story because it's
him just talking about like being in the rap game
and being unappreciated and just waiting for like his moment
to get up off the sideline. And I resonate with
that because you know, I'm in the entertainment industry and
it's a lot of shit I'm dealing with, So the

(23:35):
record just parallels to my life. So yeah, I like
the Sideline Story by Jay Cole.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Not mad at it. Not mad at it.

Speaker 5 (23:42):
I mean I think what happens in Lights Please that
really appeals to you as far as with the storytelling.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Of it all.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
I mean I really That's why I said slash sideline story,
because sideline story really resonates more with me than Lights Please,
Lights Please.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Is just him saying like he got this girl. She
bad as hell.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
He's trying to like tell her about he's trying to
talk to her about real life ship that's going on,
but she just wants to fuck. And you know what,
he always he always falls victim to wanting to fuck
because like pussy is power and he's hypnotized by the pussy,
but and horny, and you know, he's trying to be
more of an intellectual, but she just wants to fuck,

(24:22):
and that's just what that's about.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
So sideline story is more I think fitting.

Speaker 5 (24:27):
But shout out to Cole, who's got next mouse?

Speaker 2 (24:32):
I just like making it awkward. I just enjoy making
it awkward. Sometimes you didn't say you agree with me,
all right?

Speaker 4 (24:41):
So once again mine is in order number four, ghost
face Killer. All that I got is you now my
favorite I want to I have this because it's like
my favorite line, or not my favorite line, my favorite setup.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
So he said, family ain't family no more.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
We used to play ball eggs after school, eat grits
because we was poor. Grabbed applies for the channel fixed
to hang on the TV, rocking each other's pants to
school wasn't easy.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
We survived, whining snotty knows with no coachs. We kept
it real, but the older brother still had jokes. Sadly,
Daddy left me at the age of six. I didn't
know nothing, but Mommy neatly packed.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
A shit so like that was like my that Like
I used to like rap that like it was mine.
Like he just painted a story that I knew so well,
like you know what I mean, just you know, to
take it there growing up black man in the community,
like in a black community, you see this, you see this,

(25:37):
like there was times where we was damn bad, not
like you know what I mean, not as bad as them,
but like it resonated, and I think, off rip, it
resonated like that was one of the first songs I
remember listening to her as a kid, with the tears
well Enough, Like to this day, I listened to that
song the Tears are Gonna well up, like because it's
so real, and I feel like even if it was

(26:00):
the song that I couldn't personally resonate, like if I
hadn't seen that with my cousins, if I wouldn't seen
that with myself. It's one of those songs where he
painted such a vivid picture. I felt like I was there.
I know, I know people like that, you know what
I mean, the people, the people up the street from
when we grew up. That was the first people I
ever met on Section eight. That was the first people.

(26:20):
They was at the end of all block. They were
the first people I ever met on section eight. And
we knew, you feel what I'm saying, Like we knew,
they knew they were on Section eight. That seemed they
knew the foodston They're going to Jimmy's, you know what
I mean, up there on Straight Path to get the
sandwich with the with the stamps, you know what I'm saying,
Like I seen that with my you know what I mean.
So like to see that and they hear that at

(26:42):
the time, you know, I'm young. Yeah, it resonated and
that that last that hit me, you know what I mean.
It kind of reverse for me because when I was
six is when my mom met and married the man
that raised me. But up until then, I was a kid,
I knew what it felt like not to have no dad.
So like where he says, you know, his dad left
when he was six. I kind of got a dad

(27:02):
when I was six, but it resonated with me, so
that right there or that got you, Like I said,
I listened to that once a month and it's still
the tears going well up every time, and everything was
just perfect. I think we understood, at least for me
growing up, I understood, like ghost faces bigger than just
a rapper.

Speaker 5 (27:22):
That was his first big step out from the.

Speaker 4 (27:25):
World, and like it was bigger than just some bragg
of doses fly gangster rap. It was like he used
his voice as an instrument, like for the first time
for me, Like his voice cut is just as important
as the strings on the sample and the keys on
the sample. Mat of course, Mary jay on that on
that hook is amazing. The video video is amazing.

Speaker 5 (27:47):
The video and also for me, the familiar part that
now I mentioned, like the roaches out of the Cereal
box line, that was familiar for me growing up in
the projects. We did have roaches everywhere in the projects
going up, Like it was you turn on the lights
in the morning. That shit was really really real, the rots,
water bucks everywhere.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Listening to you describe the emotions evoked from the record
evoked to other records in my brain, but I'm like,
all right, I don't have time to name them all
so much, but I'm gonna go with Clock with No
Hands by Black Thought. And I really like this record
because he's just talking about like dealing with like family

(28:27):
and friends and how frustrating it can be. And it's
just it's just a real ass record, like you know,
you could cut other people off in your life, like
you know, there's like coworkers, you don't really like you
only got one family, you know, you just gotta deal
with it kind of thing. So this record Clock with

(28:48):
No Hands is fucking a damn near perfect song, just
if you're going through that and you're in that thought process,
especially like I feel like when it first drop, well
I don't even know actually want to fill out. But
when I first found out about.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
It, come on.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
When I first found out about the record, I was
still in Maryland, but it really resonated me. When I
got to New York and I was by myself, and
I guess I had time to reflect on family.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
So yeah, and just Black Thought, it is.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Just an amazing artists, amazing lyricist.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
Probably one of the best rappers period definitely underrated.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
So.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Judging by mouth's face, I guess so agreed. Okay, all right,
all right.

Speaker 5 (29:39):
Next the artist peer Pressure by Kindrack shout out to
Kendrick get in love on the fucking list the yeah yeah,
I mean I think the whole thing about you know,
for the Holmianes line, and he keeps on saying like,
I'm sober, but the Homies, I went to homies, I

(29:59):
went to home. Means when he says something, I'm usually
not violent, but I'm with the Homianes. That ship is
just it's real for a lot of people going.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Let's drop k DoD off because that his mama's been
because I know he's trying to fuck on Cherain to
night you're mad. In fact, drop me off too, I'm
trying to funk on something to neck. Man, it's such
a dumb ass back then, well, the whole hook.

Speaker 5 (30:21):
Like one day it's going to burn you out. I mean,
that's just you gotta figure out. I think as everybody.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Growing down, you have to figure.

Speaker 5 (30:27):
Out what you do with your friends and how you
need to create that separation.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
At some point, they just yo, can we oh man?
I know it's your song, but can we talk about like, Yo,
Kendrick was, Kendrick was not he wasn't human on Good Kid,
Mad City, but specifically on Auto peer Pressure when he's
talking about it's the way he merges his cadence with
the beat, with the with the beat, the actual beat,

(30:56):
but also taking beats, which is leaving that pocket of
air in between words.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
So like when he says we hit the black, say
hit the black. He hit the crib looking for anything,
and Nintendo hit the black from them, and he's like,
who it was righty right, made a left and made
it right and made a left one lucky night with
the homies.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
I like how he called him not human.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
He's not human. If you listen to that song, listeners
at home, I want you to stop the show right now,
press for us, and I want you to go listen.
Can we play? Can we put that part in it?
Can we just put that part left the right part?

Speaker 4 (31:32):
Can we put that either that part or the part
where he's talking about the actual breaking, Because the part
where he put the actual breaking is the way I
realized we're not dealing with a human.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Because the way like I can't even.

Speaker 4 (31:45):
As a person who's not a rapper, let alone, a
rapper of his his caliber. I can't even re enact
it the way he did it, but it's like the
way he's like just the way it's like a snake
moving through a room, the way he put those words
together that he was just like, you know, in search
of it, in search of anything, like, because he could
have said looking.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
For in search of any and then it was.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
That's crit shout out to you, d Block, because I
definitely forgot about that record, and I, like I said,
I had Kendrick for my honorable mentions, but yes, or
the peer pressure.

Speaker 5 (32:20):
A lot of story, Duckworth is.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Duckworth is like I think I think people one that
being at the end of the album he's a he's
a nutcase.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
He's not human, but just that story being a true
story and the way he told the story, he's not
human like Kendricks is not human in the way that
he performs these records.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Hell of a solid four was four?

Speaker 2 (32:45):
That was just four? All right? Number three. I'm sitting
in the crib dreaming, somebody got died A big.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Dang mine is a biggie one too?

Speaker 3 (32:56):
What is a different one? Bi got masked?

Speaker 4 (32:59):
He want to put you to sleep. You want to
put your sleep, You wanted to put you out of sleep.
You got some night top stories, but said. I'm sitting
in the crib dreaming by lid Jets and coops, the
way Salt shoots and how they sell records like Snoop.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
I'm interrupted by a doorbell three point fifty two. Who
the hell is this? It gets up quick cocks my ship,
stop the dog from balk and proceed like I feel
like I got to like you're you're so invested, you
get what I'm saying, like.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
If you pay, if you're like outside of all I
got is you. These other songs are catching me from
the then from the beginning, Big says this, and I
feel like I'm gonna sound like I'm selling being extra,
but this is really hot, like ingest music. Every time
I hear the record, I feel like I'm sitting down
and the TV credit just open up and you see

(33:52):
the big pin. It's like a like a like an
allegory film, like like uh Wu tang is doing has
done over this last season. I feel like I'm watching
the allegory, like I feel like.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
I'm watching what he's talking about. I want to see
this movie he's chilling, dreamingly, jets and coops the way.

Speaker 5 (34:13):
He brings, and he also mentions that when he drops
like snoop, like something's going on at that time, it's
just he just says, like very non nonchalantly, like actually, like.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
He said, and I get to walk and you see
this big, hulking figure walking around with the GAT. He's like, yeah, big, yeah,
it was going on.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
Somebody gotta die. Let the gun shots go. Somebody got
to die. Nobody has to know that kid. He's crazy.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
My big record, which is number three, is every Day Struggle,
And I was like, it was hard to pick one
of him because he can do we can do a
top five best big storytelling. Yeah, just on him because
he got so many. But you know, I've always liked
when big rap, fastatory stuff, so I like the second person.
He's like, I mean, I got the master pan.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
On my way to Maveryland in two texts take over
the Projects, they call it two texts. He told two texts,
and when he sparked a bunch like the answer next
Biggs nuts.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
He was nuts. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
His storytelling is just phenomenal and I just love it,
Like with in the crack of ass to make a
quick cash.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
They got, he said, when they got his bitch, he said,
I hold the damn should be holding three.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
For the whole family. True, g that's me.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
I don't want to live no more the time they
hear death knocking at my front door. Living every day
at the trestle, another drug to juggle, another day, another struggle.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Right, people, do you understand lucky you was to lift
through that?

Speaker 5 (36:02):
Oh my god, I can tell you my number three
is who the fuck is this page me?

Speaker 2 (36:08):
That's your number three in the morning, your number two.
Let me tell you that your number two and your
number one better be phenomenal.

Speaker 5 (36:16):
Picture.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
It's my nigga pot from the barber shot. So he
was in the gambling spot. I heard the intricate plot.
A niggas water stick, your light, flying papers, cable, slow down,
love your piece dropped the caper. Remember them niggas up
you that you grew up? It got nice with Yeah,
that's my nigga fame from the pros. I didn't say
that love dis respect. I didn't say this it Clark

(36:41):
returned the niggas that you do from back when when
you was locking minding figures. Now to here you're blowing
up like night Troll and the water through your way
pipe slow, hold than me? Now water you got tell
me what you want to do? Man? Why didn't my paper? Damn?

Speaker 5 (37:00):
I think what's going on in that song? Like even
the fact that the whole part like I didn't say
them like that storytelling is so specific. No, I'm not
talking about those guys else You're you're ready incredible, because like.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
He wasn't human.

Speaker 5 (37:16):
And also like the paranoia that you feel in his songwriters,
like he was really fucking nervous about like what you
think all the guns.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
For what you think? I was just about to say
that what you think all the guns is full? He
said in the feet of Gunpowder. So they trying to
talk about.

Speaker 5 (37:34):
This, I mean, the psychosis that was going to his
head and a lot of his lyrics.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
It's just like you he got too many, honestly he
got because.

Speaker 5 (37:45):
How could you want to live like that? You make
all this money to get out of the hood, and
then you just like it's so sad how it ended.
But it's just like when you think about once he
got out, he had this whole other.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
And they say he was really paranoid, like Little Season
and said like in those latter you know, in that
latter part of at least when they were recording that album,
he was really pardo, especially after the accident.

Speaker 5 (38:08):
And we've seen even more recent stuff with you know,
pop smoke and all these guys who've been.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Damn, why don't want to stick me from my paper? Damn?
Why didn't want to stick me from my paper?

Speaker 5 (38:19):
Great song and I and I put that ahead of
another Biggie song, which I think Mouse may talk about
later because of the entertaining part about the guy with
what the the auto tune did on the voice, as
if he's calling from itself. I just think I love song.
I think Mouse is going to talk about maybe later,
but it's just I think the entertainment value of Warning is.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
The entertainment values with all of these records. Big does
something no matter if it's all ready to die, no
matter if it's on his feature Like Big, you can
tell and you can appreciate it as like you know,
with with hindsight, how talented he was and how intelligent
he was. You know, well even the worst rapper is

(39:02):
you know, kind of.

Speaker 4 (39:04):
Kind of a bit more intelligent than the average person,
because you have to be entertaining. I think there's a
level of intelligence that has to go into entertaining.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
People, right, I disagree with this thing, but okay.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
Big was so entertaining he because he attacked it like TV,
like you think of you know, he painted a picture.
You're now listening to the what hipov questions legend. The
list will be right back after the break.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
All right, Number two.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
My number two.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
This is it's my favorite. But if I have to
be honest, it's number two. I just think and I
think I've crafted my list based on like a hard criteria. Right, So,
although this is my number two is my favorite storytelling
rap of all time, I understand it putting it number two,
even number three on some people's list, I don't understand

(39:55):
it not being on people's list.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Meet the Parents by.

Speaker 4 (39:57):
Jay Z, Meet the Parents on jay Z on the
Blueprint two is the It's like a master class in storytelling.
Not only is it a master class in storytelling, you
can tell he was influenced by one of the greatest
storytellers ever, Biggie, and you know Blueprint two starts off.
Blueprint two starts off with the conversation with Big in

(40:21):
hole and Faith on the hook and you know.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
So just to see. As the album progresses, we get
Meet the Parents where jay Z is literally rapping about
a father killing his son, and he talks about you know,
he says, he said, seems like the young seems like
the end of every young black life. It's this line.
Damn him already, because then we saw some of us.

(40:47):
He fought like us, talk like smacked him, get the
wall even you know what I mean. And he's like,
even how he ended six shots into your kin out
of a gun. Niggas be a father, you're killing your son.
Meet the parents and talks about isis and and Mike,
and Mike.

Speaker 4 (41:03):
Was just this. He wasn't really the one to love her, right,
there was a nigga names want to take it out
the city life. But what he said, he said about
isis like this. She iis loved this city. She liked
the Gucci sneakers, the red.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Green and right. She was so turned on when he
first saw the fight. They had to go home and
she had a shower twice.

Speaker 4 (41:22):
Like he paints this picture, you feel like you were
in bedsty and you know Mike and you know Isis
you know they son, You could see them. You could
see them like you can almost like paint this young
man's face, like just.

Speaker 5 (41:38):
Did think about it? Is that he didn't know was
his son, right, he had no idea that this was
his son, that he that he but.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
He had no because that's how far removed he just
on like there was so much it's like a it's
like a scor Saves.

Speaker 5 (41:50):
Or Spiker tragedy. Right, So you talk about the father
killing on sons, those Greek tragedies, Yeah, electric complex, the
mother has sex with on some all like those classic
Greek storyline and.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
You look at it and you're like.

Speaker 4 (42:05):
Everybody's I don't know how long it took jay Z
to craft a song. If somebody told me it took
him a year to craft the song, I would be
like you damn right.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Because if you think about a movie, right, like deb
like you you're a producer or director, like even to
get to what we do every day, it's not just
you know me and I look great, but there's still
is some part where you're like, all right, hey, what
are we talking about. We'll go here, we'll go here.
So on these like longer shoots when you're doing your
documentaries and things of that nature, it's like, Okay, we

(42:35):
know how I want to start. I know how I
want to finish, and we have to fill all the
sin and then when I fill this stuff in, you know,
this interview is really a splice of like because I
really want to touch on like five or six more
things from this interview. He had to do that.

Speaker 4 (42:47):
Jay Z had to do that, almost as if he
was writing a script. There was character breakdowns that you know,
you had to like what he said. He said, like
you talk about the dad Mike and he's like this MoMA.
He says, oh, mom is baby. He said, if that
baby was mine, it would be more dog.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
So is Mama's baby pop is maybe like you know
what I mean? Like and now that's become something in
the in the ethos, right, everybody says it.

Speaker 4 (43:12):
Now you know, you watch more Mama's Baby pop is
maybe you know what I mean? And you just look
at that and it's like, how the fuck did you
come up with this? What was going in yet? But
it's not that hard to think, like I don't know,
I didn't it could have been you know, I'm thirty three.
I never I didn't hear it before Jae MoMA's Baby
pop is.

Speaker 5 (43:32):
Maybe I don't it might have been like an old
school saying, I don't know if it was on wax,
but I think the peeling of the onion that you're
talking about. He starts off, just saying, this is your
typical stuff, rainy night night, Yep, you know this kind
of and then there's more layers to this. Yeah, I
think that's what is amazing.

Speaker 4 (43:47):
Yeah, that's the in every layer felt I'm gonna sound
like such. I probably sound like sound every time we
talked about hip hop. I could smell the rain the
first time I'm listening to it, I can smell the rain.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
I can feel that that moment where jay.

Speaker 4 (44:06):
Z says the moment he says, he tells her young
and get off the block. But the younger it ain't
buzz stood him, he said, but in him he saw
something like a bird Nate scene from the old He says,
like a sign from the almighty Lord. You know what
I'm saying, Like I'm I feel like I'm and you know,

(44:26):
I have my own you know, I mean issues with
my biological father.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
So I'm really connected.

Speaker 4 (44:31):
I'm really feeling like I've stood there, I stood you
know what I mean I'm stood in front of this
nigga like playing with me, like you know, and and
what jay Z said, J said, he said, he's like
a like a like a self, like he's seen him,
but like he's like he's looking at himself, but more mature.
I've been there, I've stood in this man face and
had issues with him and look at him like damn,
he canna look like me.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (44:53):
I've been there, So it's like you know what I mean,
Like you're standing there. No, I always boom him, but
I'm just sitting there like I' been in this situation
where there's tension between us, and I'm like looking at
him and it's like in my mind, I want to
do this to him, Like I want to do something
to this man, but there's something that's stopping me because
there's an innate connection between us, and I don't think

(45:14):
this man is I don't think it's reverbing to him.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
I don't think he's seeing it the same way in
my mind. And that happened with me.

Speaker 4 (45:22):
So to hear jay Z talk about with Mike and
his son, he's like, he's like, you know what I mean?
He said, what do he pulled out, pulled out a
brand new theory. But you know, you say what you
know what they say about he who hesitates a war,
he who hesitates his last didn't even blank for his mind.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Went meet the parent. Yo, that what kind of line
did that to say?

Speaker 5 (45:47):
He calls me the parents of the last the last
line of the parents, the parents.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
That's my favorite.

Speaker 4 (45:58):
That's my number. It's my favorite of all time. But
number two. It's a number two for a reason.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
Okay, my number two, I'm gonna go with. I feel
like it's way less a sentimental as what Mouth just said,
like that was some real ship just now. I'm like, damn,
all right, Yeah, that's that's great. But I think mine's
is like a fun one. Everybody likes Troy.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
They reminisced sob my god, I'm not gonna song.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
That record is just the beat is great, the story
is great.

Speaker 5 (46:29):
It is about want to heavy these dancers.

Speaker 4 (46:32):
Yeah really I thought that was about no Troy.

Speaker 5 (46:39):
It's about one of Heavy's backup dancs.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
Troy is one of the boys. Yeah, I never put
on two togethern't know that.

Speaker 5 (46:48):
Yeah, someone said I think on Twitter recently, like you know,
there's been no better eulogy song than Troy.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
That's a eulogy song when.

Speaker 5 (46:59):
They reminisceed my god, wow, the horns, those horns.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Man.

Speaker 5 (47:04):
He used to find.

Speaker 4 (47:06):
First of all, Mecca the Soul Brother one of my
favorite albums, one of my favorite albums of one of
my favorite albums across any genre of all time, like
p Rod. But you talk about as good as Mecca
and the Soul Brother, is Troy being the song that
stands out?

Speaker 2 (47:24):
Said so much.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
Record listen to it again.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
I thought that was him talking about his life and
I thought so too, But it's.

Speaker 4 (47:31):
Just certain things wasn't making sense with like interviews and stuff.
So I didn't put two in together until d Black
just said it. And then when I think about it,
reminists over you, Troy. If you look it up, Troy
is one.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Of the boys. You know, it's heavy in the boys.
One of the one of the boys name is Troy
and he did die yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
Yeah, forget this the days the way back, even just
down to so he just that's his good friend. Because
he talked about mom being the youngest, always.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Had yoh my god, just that yo're talking about getting out.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Check it positive over negative for a woman to master.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
It's like, what you're gonna do.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
That's impressive. That's actually really impressive.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
I didn't know that, all right.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
Number one or number two.

Speaker 5 (48:14):
Number two is, here's a little story. I got the
it's not going to be here. It's not gonna be here.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
I gotta flip this table. It was poor through this
table that once upon a time, not long ago, people
with pajamas and lived life slow with justice. Justice.

Speaker 7 (48:36):
If people weren't behaving like that author cook, there was
a little boy who was led by another little boy,
and this is what he said, me and U K,
we're gonna make the cash robbing old folks and making
it dad.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
They did. Money came with it, but one can't stop
it like you had it, you robbing up and try
to rob it was yo. That ships, Yo.

Speaker 4 (48:58):
But if you talk about stort like if you just
think about it, I know I be dragon ship. But
if you think about it like yes, high like.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
That, I know I be draggon.

Speaker 4 (49:06):
I know, I know I love I love hip hop.
I know I know I be dragon ship. I love
hip hop, and I make no qualms about it. Yes,
it's not just your fucking Patty and everyone's gonna sing
poo putt song. Think about what he's saying in the record.
He's saying some fly ship. He's telling a fly story.

(49:28):
Like no, he said, no need for static, No, no, no,
no no, and he gave him a slap. Little did
he know the little.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Boy was strapped, said watch you hit me straight for
the cops.

Speaker 7 (49:39):
Kid me like you talking about even talking about dave shoes,
walk to no soap me bullets, hurry up, running the cop,
back up bank shot.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Each time that you gotta say a record, it reminds
me of another record.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
Give an honorable mention.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
Y'all gonna laugh.

Speaker 3 (49:59):
But this is a story all about how much life
turned upside down.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
I think that's a fun but I think that goes
back and I'm not shooting. I think that goes back
to what I was saying, like a few seconds ago.
I think that's a fun song, dance to tell the story.
It's a fun song. List no flash, this is a pioneer.
I thought that was a I know, but I thought
it was a No, that's not a.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
Real record, that's just TV interest.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
So it wasn't the original, it wasn't right.

Speaker 5 (50:28):
Well, we talked about on list about you know, we
can't give the pioneers. I mean, pioneers are pioneers, you know,
like when we had the groups just because your person
pioneering storytelling song. So it gets a lot of points
from me. But it's also like, just when you listen
to it again, some of those slick ricks Cadence that
you when he says this seem funny. So don't you
dare laugh? It's like there's something about the upbeatness of

(50:50):
the song still, but the kid is shot by the
cops at the end, right, so just when you realize
that the darkness.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
Sure, I feel like Children's story probably if we're just
talking about like most famous, it's probably number one.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Yeah, we're talking about the most famous. Yea, I think
I think it will go.

Speaker 4 (51:07):
I think it's number two to what you just raped.
I think fresh friends about let number one? I think
I honestly, yeah, I think those the most popular. Yeah, yeah,
I would say, but.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
Also honorable mentioned the message Oh yeah in sugar Hill
the rapper's delay. Those are story records. Yeah, you haven't
been a somebody eating.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
But you know, as we talk about this, I'm like, damn,
I think a lot of songs tell stories, but then
they're storytelling records. Because when you were talking about Damn,
I think the number three version number.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
Three, my number three was I can't remember my number three.
I think I got to die.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
Your number three reminded me of how I felt about
when I heard Queen Latifa Unity.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
I'm like, that's not really a storytelling record, but she
is telling the story.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
She walks down the street a dude, disrespect BacT and
she's like, who you calling the bitch? Respect Unity And anyway,
that's how I felt. But I'm like, it's not really
a storyteller record.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Does she telling us.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Storytelling?

Speaker 1 (52:11):
It's hard.

Speaker 4 (52:12):
It sucks you right then it's like, like I said,
like allegory, like you're stuck and you're just like when
the song ends, you feel like you're watching credits instead
of the next song is going.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
That's the way I kind of see it.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Number one, Let's get to a mouse.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
Damn doors for you, even all my mother fucking holes
for you, Frank pussy with with the Kodak. It's the
mad Tech. Come on, man, I got a story to tell, Biggie.
I got a story to tell by Biggie for so
many reasons.

Speaker 4 (52:42):
Once again, it's layers upon layers upon layers, you know,
it being about motherfucking Anthony Anthony Mason, you know, the.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
New York Knicks fucking bully.

Speaker 5 (52:52):
That was my guy on the next two.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
I loved him all all my people loved him, all
my old heads loved him.

Speaker 5 (52:58):
That Nick team of the early nine.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
He was amazing.

Speaker 5 (53:01):
Hopfully, Mason starts.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
It was so crazy, but like just big, just what
what y'all over? There?

Speaker 3 (53:09):
Don arm legs.

Speaker 5 (53:13):
Like legs.

Speaker 4 (53:15):
But but it's so dope because that's his career. That's
that's but but also that's five. That's five percenter. That's
five percent. Now the five arm leg leg that's the
five that's the together. Yeah yeah, but like I don't play.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
That's a great number one?

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Is that the man? Listen from just you're engaged from there,
like just from the minute you hit that.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
Check it out.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
Talking about oh my niggas, the niggas crib. I like,
so yeah, like after what you said, got the head,
got the bread, I'm gone.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Now that's a great number one.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
Like you just said, like you were, I don't the
first time. I don't know, man, I keep saying this
shit like the first time. Every time I heard, for
the exception of.

Speaker 4 (54:16):
For except the three out of the forty record, three
of the four, three of the five of these records,
I'm on the edge of my seat every word because
you know, obviously you got.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
All that I got.

Speaker 4 (54:26):
He just recant in his life say and with Dard storytelling,
you know, I was a little you know, I was
a little green. I didn't know what he was talking about.
I just enjoyed what they were.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
So I wasn't on the you know, there's no it
didn't connect now that connected. There was no. It wasn't
a ride. I wasn't like, oh, what's next? You know
what I mean? But with these other three on the
edge of my seat, what is going to happen? Will
be will Big make it out next time? On Dragon

(54:58):
ball Z?

Speaker 4 (54:58):
Like you know what I'm saying, Like, that's that's what
I'm here. Like so like when he's like, you know
what she said, what she said?

Speaker 2 (55:06):
He said, tell me cool?

Speaker 4 (55:07):
He said, no, no, he said he when Big told
the girls that you better tell your man be cool,
she don't know.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
I'm cool as a fig gas head. I don't want
to blast him, man, but I can in the window.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
I'm trying to even though the situation.

Speaker 4 (55:21):
You look, it came to me like a song I wrote,
Come boy, it can't tell me yo. First of all, inception,
it came to me like a song I wrote. Wait, nigga,
this is a song you wrote. Wait again, nigga, Wait again, nigga.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
You don't even write. You don't even write.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
Oh my god, no, great record. That's a that's a
good one.

Speaker 5 (55:48):
But before we get you your one, because I want
you to finish, can I just tell you what my
number one is? I wonder you I think you finished this?
Yeah no, but my number one is black Steel in
the r of cast pump Endemy And I think you know,
I got a letter from the government like that song
to me is a is a great story that you
can when you talk about the visualization, you can see

(56:11):
all that happening as he's talking about with the prison
rate and just like just them getting to the helicopter
on top of the prison and getting out and just
shooting its way out. I think that's the dope.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
I think that's a fair one.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
It don't resonate with me, but that.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
What I just I know it's a great one.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
Dad, it's like one of the record.

Speaker 4 (56:33):
It's yeah, like we can always acknowledge how great some
ships even if it don't resonate.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
Yeah, yeah, all right, but mine?

Speaker 4 (56:41):
Wow, I just want to tell you why you put
a lot of pressure on yourself. You said it's better
than I got to.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
I think it's better.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
But they're in different lanes because, like you said, like
I got a storyteller is entertainment where this is?

Speaker 6 (56:55):
This is really If you say waterfalls, I'm gonna flip
because Left Eyes Verse was so crazy.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
At the launches.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
No, my number one is common I used to love her.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
You are you kidding me? Better than a story to.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
Tell common I used to love her absolutely.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
That's one of the best hip hop records period, like,
and it's great because it talks about like hip hop
in its purest form, and then it's transformation, I mean, yeah,
as it evolves to like mass media selling itself, whereas
to now you're trying to tell me that certain records
are great.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
When it's a rund like common Sense.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
I used to love her. It's great, and I will
never forget.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
I thought the record was like cute as I'm listening
to it, because I thought it was about a girl.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
I'm like, we've been wrapping this whole episode opening this
song up. Bro.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
I met this girl when I was ten years old,
and what I love most she has so much so
she was old school when I was just a shorty.
Never throughout my life she would be there for me
on a regular not a church girl. She was secular,
not about the money. The stuff is Mike, check it up.
But I respected her.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
She hit me in the heart.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
A few New York niggas had did it in the dark,
but she was there for me, and I was there
for her, put out a chair for her like. I
just really liked the way he dressed hip hop up
as a woman.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
And then at the end, no, not as.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
My friend's nigga.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
Why because why is that sip?

Speaker 2 (58:27):
Because I know a few New York nigga did the dark.
I'll pulled up the chair for hunks.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
Anyway, So I didn't like that.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
It was a dig. I ain't like that. Yeah, that
was a little dig. That was a little dig. That
was not it.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
He was just saying, like.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
Adult New York niggas was doing her like she was
a whole.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
Well then she broke to the West Coast, and that
was cool because around the same time, I went to
way to school and I'm a man of expanded, so
why should I stand in a way? She probably get
her money in LA and she did so that she
got big fu for what was foul. She said that
the pro black was going out of staff, like I
just like how he broke down the eras of hip hop,
Like yes, was fell in love with it.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
He fell in love with.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
It when it was in the New York scene, but
he wanted a piece of it for himself. He sees
her going out west and he starts expanding, which, by
the way, commons commons evolution from his first album to
his second album is two different commons, which is I
think he's explaining that also in the record.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
So just so I want to talk about y'all's hip hop.

Speaker 3 (59:32):
I was just like, oh, like that emoji the brain
is like lifted, and you're like, quick question, put that
emoji in my face.

Speaker 5 (59:39):
But do you think when she goes into the West
Coast side of things that he actually has a little
bit of this, Like you know when he says, now
black music is black music, and it's all good. So
when he says that line is he kind of like
still looking at her differently? You think, I mean hip
hop is the herd, right, So is he looking at
it differently?

Speaker 3 (59:55):
Based question the way he said he wasn't salty. She
was with the boys in the hood.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
But do you believe it? Sure it was because they
got into a beef right after that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
I think they got into a beef for other reasons,
not because of that record, because like even Erica, but
I do love.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
In my life.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
He's got to ask you, which one do you like better, though,
love my life.

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
Or that I like I used to love her better,
but I love the Erica I do record too. But
I'm to Darren's question of do I think he was salty? No,
because he says the boys made her better to grow.
I had to let her to be the Jeddah and
I understood that looking for cheese.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
That don't make her a hood right.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
In fact, she's a queen to me, like Beams on me.
I love it when she sings to me like, oh
you know you like I think when it comes to
like my POV of hip hop and what it means

(01:00:52):
to me, I love I used to love her.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
It's like all the songs I named are songs that
really resonate.

Speaker 5 (01:00:58):
The first time you guys heard that song, did you
know what the metaphor was right away?

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
Way? Because somebody introduced it to me.

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
I knew that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
They told you. Somebody told me.

Speaker 4 (01:01:07):
My cousin was like like that was when I was
getting into my lyrical bag, and I was like, yeah,
like having like creating my standard of rap. And my
cousin like, yo, listen to this, like he rapping about
hip hop, Like it's not a woman, it's hip hop.
So I already went into it knowing, which kind of
helped because I was able to come down one thousand percent.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
Sure. If I listened to it the first time, I
would have been like, Oh, he's talking my hip hop.
I'm like, what girl he talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
The whole stop you would have thought she was a
whore girl from New York to.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
I was watching I saw it on the countdown. I
got in TV channel and I'm just watching it. I'm like,
this is a vibe.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
This is a vibe.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
This is the vibe.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
Who I'm talking about, y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
I'm like watching TV.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
Oh ship hip hop? I'm like, call dad, you know
what this song about?

Speaker 5 (01:01:57):
Common Car wait a minute time out common sense.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
No, No, I'm talking about when did you discover this song?
Because you said you picked up a cell phone?

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
Well, no, a phone like the house phone. All okay,
she's probably like two thousand and four.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, that's okay. I my parents discovered
the song yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
They couldn't afford a babysitter, you know something, the crib,
be in the creb whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
But I call him up a parents, real niggas.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
No, I'm like, Dad, I just found this song. He's like,
I played that song your entire life, Like, you don't
know that song.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
I'm like, like, not at work? You never you remember
you remember calling your parents at work to ask something dumb.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
No, my brother used to be getting on my nerves.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
Shout out to just hell, okay, I speak to, I
speak to to have some first chokes, put some in
the oven.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
Joe, he's standing at the door.

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
I keep telling him to get out, but he's just
standing at the door, like, oh man.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Yeah, that was a good way to end.

Speaker 5 (01:02:56):
It was as far as that storytelling raps, A great
storytelling rap, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
I think I got a storytellers more like he said,
more like spins, you're not. It's not suspenseful one. I
used to love her. It's just a story.

Speaker 4 (01:03:10):
But he takes I don't argue with it being a
fucking master craft of a song, of a storytelling song.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
Just say that I got a storytelling No, no, it's real.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
People, all right, you know what, Let's make this a poll.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
Let's make it a poll.

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
Let's do it, all right, guys, me.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
And Moss want to know who do you Who do
you think has a better storytelling record?

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
Is it common? I used to love her?

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
Or biggie, I got a story to tell.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
Drop comments in the section below.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
Click the poll.

Speaker 4 (01:03:38):
All of that, we make sure d block a king,
Make sure we got a nice clip to post. I'm
posted to the page. Make sure I want to see that.
Because this is ridiculous, that would be so.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
Let's collapse that one.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
Okay, so people can yell at your people. Your people
are probably gonna agree with me. Don't don't bring the
book community who don't?

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
Did he shima? Did he just make up?

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
All?

Speaker 5 (01:04:04):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
Any any last words?

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Yeah? I got a story to tell.

Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
Speaking got a.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Story and tell you got anything going on that you
want shout out real quick?

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
The same thing I always got going on. Man, it's
the what I question.

Speaker 4 (01:04:19):
Like the list each and every Monday, got next door
each and every Monday, and track karaoke on the road.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
Make sure you get your tickets. Check karaoke dot com.
You got something coming up. You got a whole bunch
of stuff coming up? What's going on?

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
You've got a whole bunch of stuff going up too,
Like you forgot about Broccoli Fest by the way.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
Oh my god, Yes, I'm not gonna talk about your jobs.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
I'm sorry. Well, that's why we're such good brother and sisters,
because we hold each other.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
I'm excited to see.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
You know your schedule, you know, we just don't know
our own schedule.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
Bracy is gonna be dope though.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
Yes, insane. I cannot wait.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
It's gonna be dope. All right, I got a special visitor.
Who who, there's somebody popping out?

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
No, all right, anyway, I'm so annoying, So all right,
I just wanted to shout out my Amazon show every
Wednesday night on Twitch makes you guys tune in.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
It's called rotation.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
Arguing with y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
Yeah, so what I do with mouse? Honestly, after arguing
with him I'm ready to argue with anybody. Mouse has
got me prepped and ready for war. So shut up
to Mouse for that makes you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
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guys tune into AMP every Tuesday and Thursday twelve pm.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
Tune in and listen. But we're just more so playing
new music on there.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Like what you got going on? You got stuff going on?

Speaker 5 (01:05:35):
I got the what hip Hop Questions listening list every
Monday in the documentary documentary.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
More on that later to.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
Come and we'll be back.

Speaker 4 (01:05:47):
My favorite thing about hip hop is you know when
people know, like when they do interviews niggas, that would
be my favorite thing, Like that's how I know niggas lit.
That's that would be my like marker for how to
let you are like throwing the stuff you can't talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
Like I hate when the artist come up to there.
Oh yeah, just dropping this day, just dropping this day now,
ask them if when just coming. We're working on dates
right now. You know, third quarter, you know, look out
for that third quarter. That used to be my favorite.
Second quarter, your second we come in, we come in
early second quarter. I be like, yeah, this is lip.

Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
Okay understandable. I got some things I'm working on to
that I can't really talk about yet for second quarter,
second third quarter. Yeah yeah, I'm wait to Q three
to drop some more bombs, clue bombs. All right, Next
Monday to another episode of The Wedding Questions.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
Can you start with.

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
That isnay, We'll be back next Monday. Till next time, guys, He's.

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Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

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